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24597669 No.24597669 [Reply] [Original]

Guys, I have this smooth idea and I don’t know how to realize it.

It’s not too special and complex and could be build by a small team. Unfortunately I have no serious programming skills, so I am searching for people to join me.

Also I am afraid of sharing the idea. Should I just pay somebody or how do I find trustworthy fellas?

It’s a web application that is blockchain based and it works in my theory

>> No.24597678

tell me u can trust me bro

>> No.24597696

>>24597669
>I am afraid of sharing the idea
People come to me all the time with their crazy ideas and yet don't realize ideas aren't worth a damn thing.
it's whether or not you actually follow through

>> No.24597740

hello sirs can you give me hint pls

>> No.24597741

>>24597669
Use NDA's anon. do not even share a crumb of details without enforcing that. Learn how to protect your ideas

>> No.24597755

>>24597678
>Trust somebody on 4chan

>> No.24597777

>>24597696
I know but somehow you still want to be the owner of the idea and not see anybody else realize it for you

>> No.24597809

>>24597741
>he thinks NDAs are enforceable

>> No.24597826

>>24597741
Thanks for the hint, that may be an option

>> No.24597832

>>24597669
share the idea. the value is in the implementation not the idea

>> No.24597838

>>24597777
You have to offer a reward up front. Nobody will volunteer to build you a web app for free. But you can go on freelancer.com and get a decent site built for a few thousand dollars.

>> No.24597901

>>24597832
I thought about that as it should be open source anyways

>>24597838 Some may do if they profit from being a part of the team

>> No.24597930

>>24597809
if they won't sign your NDA, they weren't serious to begin with

>> No.24598086

>>24597930
Not really. Many freelancers use the being asked for an NDA thing as a signal that they're dealing with an ideas guy. With actual companies is different because it's the legal team asking for it and the actual people hiring you don't give a shit about it.

>>24597901
You didn't specify what % you're willing to share.

>> No.24598150

Or what guarantees would you actually offer of actually keeping your promise. Very often the person who controls the domain/trademark/copyright keep the project to themselves after the app is built and has users, and leave everyone else who contributed behind. Just look at 8 chan and what happened with the cripple and the pig farmer.

>> No.24598247

>>24598086
I thought about sharing equally with all team members. Income sources of the project could be 1) Ico 2) ads 3) extra services 4) dev share of money flow

>> No.24598304

>>24598150
Members could contribute per smart contract and get their share automatically

>> No.24598314

Ideas are pointless without execution. Here's a great example of this at work

I have an idea. In the future, humans will have the ability travel via molecular transport. This device will break down humans at a molecular level and shift those molecules to a sister/brother device in a remote location. Once the molecules are at the remote location, the sister/brother device will immediately recreate the human with 100% accuracy.

Ok anons, go ahead and steal my idea. Go ahead and execute on the idea and become a billionaire.. I'll wait.

>> No.24598401

>>24597669
ideas are worth nothing idiot, take pride in execution, chances are your idea is not unique at all

>> No.24598405

>>24598247
That's a great way to get freeloaders who do the bare minimum.

>>24598304
How do they know you will put their public keys in the smart contract? If you control the website you control the code the nodes will run, you can do whatever you want until the coin is actually out there.

>> No.24598418

>>24598314
That’s what spacex does, but not any idea is that complex. Simple ideas can be copied easily especially open source crypto projects. So you want to be the first to come up with a working product

>> No.24598448

>>24598314
I too enjoy Willy Wonka and The Chocolate Factory

>> No.24598474

>>24598401
This thread is part of the execution as I try to figure out how I can make this project happen

>> No.24598572

>>24598405
In theory yes, but that’s why I think a long term team is better then a freelancer / paid dev. As soon as things are clear the collective earns more by adding real value to the project

>> No.24598644
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>>24597669
You're idea is not original and it's not good enough to be stolen. You could tell everyone in here your stupid idea and it's unlikely anyone would want it for free.

I'll humor you and let's say your idea is the 0.00001% exceptions to the rule and it's worth something. If you told it to a developer could they take it and do it without you? If the answer is yes, then you are worthless to the project and shouldn't be a part of it.

Even mediocre devs get constant six figure job offers and have morons throwing stupid ideas at them every day. If you can't offer something they don't have, then don't waste their time. Usually this means money or superb marketing skills. Being as you're here, it's not the latter, so you better come up with a boat load of cash.

>> No.24599024
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24599024

>>24597669
I’ll tell you my idea, OP. Maybe it will help you with sharing yours, I got some great suggestions yesterday to improve the idea too.

I’m thinking about making a website which would let people predict the price of any asset over a period of time just by drawing their prediction of the price curve, and then averaging all the curves to get a community prediction and displaying that on top of the real price chart.

>> No.24599075

>>24597669
Honestly whatever your idea is, it’s already been built. Nobody is gonna steal your idea, and if they did, they’ll have a different way of implementation than you anyway + probably target a different market. Sharing ideas = constructive criticism and feedback, where you’ll most likely pursue it and anyone else involved in the conversation will forget about it by the morning

>> No.24599193

>>24599024
That’s not bad - look into a niche form of AI called Swarm Intelligence, foundational tech is similar to your idea. The concept of SI is the collective intelligence of a community is far greater than one’s own analysis, all with the same weighting (when done in an anonymous format).

In terms of implementation, you could look into TradingView’s API (they have the forecasting candlestick tool that can be used here), and snapshot the user’s submission.

For revenue, either your own token to perform the prediction or utilise an existing protocol and collect fees. Have a crack at it, sounds good

>> No.24599235

>>24599075
Hmm I don’t think it’s already built in that way as the key technology is very new

>> No.24599249

>>24598572
Youd need to go find people in real life to contribute. Online theres nothing stopping you from running off with the work to profit on your own or sell it off to someone else.
Has the idea already been done before?

>> No.24599304

>>24598644
I always appreciate the initiators because without the idea the project may never happen

>> No.24599394
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>>24599304
> He thinks developers don't have their own ideas

>> No.24599413

>>24599249
Yes I know I need people that I can trust and work out the idea properly. I just thought I come up here first, saw a lot of threads were people were searching for ideas to contribute to

>> No.24599442

>>24599394
>he doesn’t

>> No.24599462

>>24599442
>has no response to >>24598644

Fuck you faggot

>> No.24599529

>>24599235
As someone heavily involved in startups + tech in general, I can tell you now it probably exists. High probability. I know people working on products where the tech isn’t expected to exist for another 5 years. China are also light years ahead of the Western world and have things that’d blow your mind.

Read the Mom Test and reach out to people outside your direct circle. You need to add value in some way for a dev to take your offer; wireframing, user stories, solution architecture (even at a high level), will all come in handy. Look at no-code tools, for they can serve as an inexpensive way of identifying product market fit before shelling out large financial commitments to developers (in the form of hard cash or equity %).

But just a forewarning, anyone who’s ever come to me to discuss an idea demanding I sign an NDA has been ignored, likewise my circle of devs and investors do the same. NDA for a groundbreaking piece of kit that’s currently sitting in an ethical grey-area, and the sole purpose of signing is to protect the founders identity? Maybe. NDA for an app idea? No

>> No.24599582

>>24599304
>he did response and appreciates this statement a lot!

But I don’t agree to 100% as the idea is always the most important step to make it happen. Also even if I can not contribute by programming I still have the vision of how it should look and work.

>> No.24599809

>>24599529
Thanks for sharing some knowledge! This advise is really appreciated and will be saved.
But as I mentioned, it’s not a technical revolution but more a implication / add on to something existing (popular and existing market).

Maybe I should first come up with a white paper and see if there’s real interest, then build team and search for investors?

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24599990

Definitely make some business materials. A white paper is nice and it'll let you hash everything out ahead of time.

I was in your same shoes a few years ago. It's actually what made me decide to go to school to become a dev. It was probably the best decision I ever made.

Good luck and I hope to see your idea when you hash it out.

>> No.24600120

>>24599990
I also realized that ideas are worth very little. It's all about execution. I see others mentioned that too.

>> No.24600194

>>24599990
Thanks a lot and congrats! I really think getting hands on programming would be the best way long term

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24600539

>>24597777
lol
hey guys, i got a great idea, we should colonize mars, unfortunately i'm a brainlet, can someone plz help? i'll only take a 10% cut for my great idea while you do the real work

>> No.24601186

>>24600539
idea =! project

>> No.24601760

>>24601186
> tries to not sound like a complete brainlet
> types the != operator wrong

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>>24597669
POST THE WEBAPP IDEAS IN THE BAG AND NOBODY GETS HURT