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>Buy a few websites
>Dress them up like they're big companies
>Include different rolls in the companies for fictional people that don't exist
>Get pictures for them from thispersondoesnotexist.com
Put yourself in a high position
>Give contact info to a friend who can pretend to be a higher up and tell the recruiter that you're a hard worker and you have years of experience
>Do this for a few websites
Would this work? Is this technically illegal in the US in any way?

>> No.24513415

bumping because I am also curious

>> No.24513468

>>24513363
Probably illegal yeah

>> No.24513544

>>24513468
Lying on your resume about work experience is not illegal as long as you don't lie on any official legal documents about college education or whatnot. But is creating a fictional company that doesn't exist illegal? I haven't found anything on this.

>> No.24513565

>>24513363
why do you think any of that will help you land a job you are unqualified for? what kind of role specifically are you after? you still be interviewed and will fail miserably if you don't have any actual domain knowledge for the type of position you are applying for.

>> No.24513592

>>24513363
I once did this to get a job dressing up as Hamburglar.

>> No.24513663

>>24513565
I don't know what I want to do, but every single job requires like fucking 6 years of experience to let you in so fuck that. I'm planning on working an entry level job for a few months to get the swing of it, then doing this to get a higher level job I couldn't get otherwise. If I can't bullshit through it (which I probably could) I'll just do it with a different company, EZ

>> No.24513723

>get job you're unqualified for
>can't do the job
>get fired
Great plan.

>> No.24513901

>>24513663
what type of job are you even talking about? how unqualified are you really? it's not really possible to do what you're suggesting as burger flipper trying to land any kind of skilled role for example. nobody really cares what your work history is....they only care if you can do the job they are hiring for. if you don't know how to spin your resume and talk up your personal experience to get around the hr "6 years previous experience" bullshit, then you're not going to know how to spin the interview either.

>> No.24514030

>>24513468
everything good in life is illegal

>> No.24514062

>>24514030
bro, have you ever had melted cheese? you can have that shit every day of the week....100% legal

>> No.24514087

>>24513723
most jobs are easy as fuck, you can just google what you need to do and you will be fine

>> No.24514111

>>24513363

World wide enterainment

>> No.24514137

>>24513363
Might be considered fraud, but people do it anyway

>> No.24514191

>>24513468
Ngmi

>> No.24514282

>>24513363
They could look up business entity records and domain name registry dates and potentially call you out on your bullshit.

>> No.24514404

>>24513363
You got the right idea OP but might be picked up by the paper trail, lots of recruiters will ask for a few months pay slips as proof

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>> No.24514570

>>24514282
nah most of them are too lazy to do deep research

>> No.24514618

>>24514404
>ots of recruiters will ask for a few months pay slips as proof
What? Bullshit. Never even heard of this.
>t white collar old fag

>> No.24514629

>>24513363
Would definitely not pass the Computer Fraud and Abuse Act but if you are applying at some scam shithole like Theranos maybe that's exactly who they are looking for.

>> No.24514645

>>24514087
This. Companies don't test you on your skill level, they just hire the person with the most experience because they're lazy

>>24514030
>>24514062
Both equally based

>>24513901
>nobody really cares what your work history is....they only care if you can do the job they are hiring for
Ngmi lmao

>> No.24514680

>>24514191
i like the cut of your jib, sir!

>> No.24514691

>>24514282
Bro you think the WOMEN in HR are going to care about their jobs enough, let alone know how to look that shit up? I think it would be EZ as fuck to fool the epsilons that ended up working in an HR department of all places.

>>24514570
This

>> No.24514705

I've been in the labour force 15 years and haven't even had a reference checked once

>> No.24514718

>>24513363
>rolls
It’s role.
ngmi

>> No.24514738

>>24513363
Idk about the legality, but I have gotten my friends jobs by giving bullshit references before. They didn't even go to that much work, just said I was their boss at a company and my phone number. But I'm really really good at lying and bullshitting, I wouldn't recommend it with someone who freezes up or gets nervous

>> No.24514809

>>24514629
Nigga that act was passed in 1986 and addresses computer hacking. How would creating a fake business website violate this act?

>> No.24514843

>>24514718
Shit, I thought that looked weird. Autocorrect has ruined my ability to spell over the years

>>24514705
>>24514618
Extremely based. This sounds even easier than expected

>> No.24514865

>>24514738
Yeah thanks bro. I was thinking about coaching a few of my edgier friends to do it, or just paying someone on Fiverr or something if that doesn't work.

>> No.24514915

>>24513544
>official legal documents about college education
so if I lie about having bachelors for a job application that's illegal? Or just government documents?

>> No.24515038

>>24514915
I think so. It looks like it, but I doubt anybody will actually do anything about it if you did. I'll probably avoid doing that if I can but I'm not really too worried about getting in trouble with the law over something so small and common.

>> No.24515079

>>24514809
I've thought about this too for many years but never had the balls to do it

>> No.24515120

At the same time, if you can build a website professional enough to pass as a fortune 500, you are probably not approaching this right.

>> No.24515156

Can’t they just check whois registry? Or see if the llc or corp even exists?

Anyways sounds interesting OP. What kind of jobs do you think this would be good for? I’m thinking mostly remote stuff

>> No.24515267

>>24514809

Creating an imaginary business website is not "hacking". Its more in the realm of fraud. As long as you aren't scamming anyone, bo one will use your website.

>> No.24515309 [DELETED] 

>>24515156

You can register an LLC for whatever. I registered an LLC for an idea I had and never executed. Some business "assessment" websites estimate the business income at half a m usd a year. I have literally never made a penny on it.

>> No.24515356

>>24513363

>no college degree
>learn python
>study leetcode questions for 6 months and ask for advice on blind app
>study amazon leadership principals and develop fake real life scenarios relatable t each one
>pad resume with fake dev experience, fake college degree
>pass jr level dev role and make $100,000 a year at amazon

Faking it is literally that easy

>> No.24515507

>>24513363
I read a news article where here in the UK some guy faked qualifications and experience to get a high paying exec job in healthcare.

Thing is, he did it for over 6 years, presumably successfully, before getting caught out. I can't remember how he was caught but he was sacked and I think went to court for fraud. I don't really see the problem as he seemed to be good at his job

>> No.24515656

>>24513363
if you are smart enough to come up with this then you basically have the intelligence of a college degree holder and you should just get hired like one in my opinion.

>> No.24515688

>>24513544
It is. The contract often mentions that "everything you have said about you is truthful". When you sign that you are legally bound

>> No.24515769

>>24513363
Lawyer anon here. I created fake websites for a fictitious company that I was “in-house” counsel for. I’m now working for a company making 120k a year. Life is good.

>> No.24515838

>>24513363
If I was the recruiter I'd check when the domains were registered.

>> No.24515849

>>24513363
Learn how to spell roles correctly, you numpty. Helps a lot.

>> No.24515944

>>24514691
This. HR subhumans don't give a fuck.

>> No.24516027

>>24513363
I literally did this and got a GS-12 US federal job.
I made up a company located in Germany and put references with all German phone numbers. No one ever checked. I tailored the company to be hyper-relevant to the Fed job duties (IT work). I also made some basic android apps under the "company" name and put myself as lead dev. CPAC HR drones don't know how to verify foreign companies and selecting officials didn't feel like calling international numbers. I can't tell how affective it was but it got me past the qualification filters, led to a few referrals, and then I just nailed the interview and now have a cozy gov job.

>> No.24516953

>>24515079
Don't be a fucking pussy dude. Break free from your lifelong conditioning to be obedient and become an individual.

>>24515120
Why not? It's a lot faster to do that than it is to waste a decade or more of your life pretending to work.

>> No.24517026

>>24515267
Yeah I wouldn't actually take orders from anyone, I would just make it look like I was

>>24515156
They could but I highly doubt the braindead retards that work in HR would bother or even know how to in the first place. I feel like this could work for almost any white collar type job in an office or something. Maybe for code monkeys positions, I'm not sure. Right now I'm thinking about becoming a cell tower climber.

>> No.24517074

>>24515356
Yeah that is basically my life's plan at the moment. I'm about to turn 19 and my parents are getting pissed off that I've been living as a NEET ever since Corona so I need to have a stable source of income soon.

>> No.24517201

>>24515507
Yeah and the UK is a police state, so if he can get away with it over there I'm sure I could here.

>>24515656
Thanks bro, I agree. I don't think rules really apply if you are smart enough to find loopholes in the system. Honestly I think I'm much smarter than the average college grad because college literally teaches you nothing. I had the option to do it all for free but it is a huge waste of 3 years so I passed.

>>24515688
Extremely based. Thank you lawyerbro, is what >>24515688 said true?

>> No.24517502

>>24516027
Extremely based. I will remember this advice, I hadn't thought of using foreign companies. Thanks brah

>>24515849
>Learn how to spell roles correctly
No.

>> No.24517546

It's only fraud if you lie or otherwise misrepresent yourself though?

If you're the VP of Engineering at your a company you formed yesterday, who can tell you you're wrong or misrepresenting yourself? You literally made up that position. If they ask what you've done say that you've planned long-term strategic decisions on tech stacks and shit like that, it's easy.

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24517598

>>24513363
Incroyable! Tu est very basadieux!

>> No.24517602

>>24513468
kike

>> No.24517608

>>24517546
That is fucking genius

>> No.24517626

>>24513363
It’s pretty easy to check public accounts of a company, anyone suspicious could find out quite easily, with that said it’s unlikely that someone would check if it looked legit.

>> No.24517676

>>24517598
Thank you Mr. Mohamed sir!

>> No.24517859

>>24513363
Know the boss' cousin

>> No.24518011

>>24517859
I don't leave the house, I just play Minecraft and watch WoR highlights all day.