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>> No.24247084
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I got fucked today, /biz/... and not in a good way...

>> No.24247118
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>Wednesday morning PLTR opens at $24.40
>some sell-offs by people securing profits and a mild dip
>the leddit crew from r/stocks, r/stockmarket, and r/wallstreetbet place their orders
>PLTR rallies tomorrow
>everyone and thweir cousin finds about about PLTR over Thanksgiving and Black Friday

>next week PLTR reaches massive new highs

You heard it here first

>> No.24247134
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>>24247084
good times

>> No.24247140

Limit orders on ROBLOX?
SNOW hit my broker at twice the IPO price.
Limit at 250%? 300%?

>> No.24247145

This thread is bad meme magic for ROBLOX bro’s...

>> No.24247146

>>24247118
I fucking forgot thanksgiving was this week. Went to the grocery store and it was packed

>> No.24247149

Give it to me straight anons, is roblox the play? I'm ready to go balls deep.

>> No.24247164

>>24247140
When is the IPO over and when will it hit open markets?

>> No.24247187

'nicked me mum's purse an 'bot meself 100 row-bux gon 'ave a grand time

>> No.24247204

>>24247164
I was here on SNOW day. They said $120 open, but nobody had it in their brokers until $190 minimum. One anon flipped it at $240 in a few minutes.

>> No.24247211

>>24247055
You need to reboot Netscape

>> No.24247242

>>24247146
How do I make calls on the turkey market?

>> No.24247254

>>24246886
Yeah. There’s a 40:40:10:10 ratio of 1. Tourists that don’t know the DD 2: salty fencesitters and FOMOing faggots from the last run up that either ignore it or FUD it 3: OG coomers and 4: oldfags that always hated the coomers (perhaps justifiably so)

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>>24247164
No fucking clue no date no price nothing. Heck might not even happen this year. But the gme meme started last year around this time so I don’t know man

>> No.24247296

>>24247242
https://www.tradingview.com/symbols/TVC-TR10/

>> No.24247298
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>>24247242

>> No.24247305
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>> No.24247316

I am rewatching People Just Do Nothing and it's hilarious. Cozy Tuesday morning. Anyone making money off of credit spreads? What is your secret?

>> No.24247336
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Take a break from trading and enjoy some art. If you bought MOON and LGVW you can relax and be the cream that rises to the top. Do I like a tranny with a 9 inch dick? Maybe. But we're not talking about my sexual preferences, we're talking about making money.

>> No.24247342

>>24247242
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vEUkpOrcr78

>> No.24247343
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>>24247296
Never. Not even once. Fuck turkey and their bonds. I hope it gives who ever has it portfolio AIDS.

>> No.24247350

>>24247336
https://music.youtube.com/watch?v=gQn2xzLLSyo&feature=share
Listen to this

>> No.24247351

>>24247280
They filed with the SEC a few days ago. Probably going to list before end of year.

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>>24247254
It was always a weekend /smg/ play.

>> No.24247380

All memes aside, how much higher will PLTR go realistically? Sold my 21.50 calls for 400% profit at close today, and rolled a little bit into 25 11/27 strikes, should I sell those at open immediately or is there any chance this continues to pump all week? I work all morning so I wont be able to trade until 2 hours before close let alone even check my portfolio. Was thinking setting stop loss orders unless somebody else has a better idea?

>> No.24247403

>>24247369
More like flavour of the month but sure

>> No.24247428

Hello, some faggot that likes to bake threads here. I have been jannie’d for 30 days, so I hope one of you retards learn how to be a thread bitch.

>> No.24247457
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>>24247428
Someone has to do it once in a while

>> No.24247463

>>24247380
>All memes aside, how much higher will PLTR go realistically?

They will become the IBM of AI.

>> No.24247471

>>24247369
Sorry, misunderstood what you meant by that disregard this faggoty reply >>24247403

>> No.24247495

MARQETA IPO WHEN
RRREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

>> No.24247542
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FUTURES ARE GOING NEGATIVE AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

>> No.24247576

>>24247342
They really do have a scene for everything

>> No.24247579
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Can I get some feedback on my portfolio? Kind of a poorfag so it's not much, I just put a few hundred in each paycheck.

I have yet to sell any stocks (I started investing in May), I'm wondering if I should do so if/when it looks like the market falls again, or if I should just hold everything forever.

>> No.24247582
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Dow 30k rejected

>> No.24247624

>>24247579
That's a stamp collection.

>> No.24247628

LGVW
APXT
welcome your new memes. Non EV memes are here to stay. Smelly, dirty EV memes are going to get the rope soon (looking at your solo and other chink EVs. HYLN and based horse can stay)

>> No.24247641

>>24247579
Do you want to say trade? It’s comfier if you just hold what you trust than to flip stocks for quick profits especially when tax season comes around

>> No.24247665

I kinda got burned on SNOW. Should I be doing ROBLOX? Does Warren Buffet even know what a Roblox is?

>> No.24247669

sup /smg/ I'm back after 3 years and I know I missed the BIG dip earlier this year. Should I invest now or should I wait until the next shutdown?

>> No.24247670

>>24247628
NPAC as well, don’t miss this 100% increase in the next couple of days.

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>Yeah I bought LGVW, is there a problem?

>> No.24247727

>>24247669
>next shutdown
Vaccines are causing a disgusting rally. The next dump will unironically be j Powell opening that shithole he calls a mouth, causing the market to take a shit with him.

>> No.24247736

>>24247727
aight, I'll look for that.

>> No.24247745

>>24247727
When is he speaking next?

>> No.24247753
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>>24247055
Roblox ipo hype

https://youtu.be/qm6EFa2sh64


https://youtu.be/vpOfchi4Nf4

>> No.24247828

So are we putting it all on roblox once it opens?

>> No.24247838

>>24247736
>>24247745
Not 100% but from what I gathered their next meeting is dec 15-16. His vice chair just spoke tuesday this week. Keep an eye out for that slippery turd smg

>> No.24247852 [DELETED] 

I read a lot of fake info about different shitcoins and their “real success”. You can check the RBC price and see what is a profitable exchange!

> Multichain p2p exchange integrated with Binance, Ethereum, Matic and other blockchains
> The RBC price has reached 150% just for one month!
> ROI 150% and the trading volume over the 200k dollars

> https://rubic.finance/
> @cryptorubic_chat

I can predict x 10 of the price after the Instant trades services launch, so hurry to buy now!

>> No.24247853

>>24247828
what about airbnb?

>> No.24247861

can somebody explain why NKLA still has a market cap of 13 billion? it was literally revealed as a scam yet people still buy their stock

>> No.24247877

>dug up my old roblox account
>had it 'appraised' by an account reseller
>worth about $5,000 apparently

what the fuck even

>> No.24247888

>>24247828
No, its not even rated that good on the app store. I would sooner but a Puzzle & Dragons or a Genshin Impact stock.

>> No.24247895
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>>24247861
Clown market

>> No.24247899

>>24247877
Go for it.

>> No.24247901

>>24247852
Go back to your stinky pajeet crypto threads, dirty namefag.

>> No.24247915

>>24247853
Increased hotel subsidies and completion/regulations/covid give me bad vibes.

My gut says all in on roblox

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I'm listening to some super low view count lolcows talk about stocks and I've never felt a stronger urge to sell everything.

>> No.24247924
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>DIX spikes even further below 40
>second day in a row below 40
>5 out of the last 8 days DIX below 40>Big $$$ is selling, not buying
>GEX spikes up
>$CPC even lower
Meltdown imminent - be ready to pull out as soon as you see cracks in the dam - decent chance the 'crisis' may be averted [so I wouldn’t change your positions, *yet*] but you should still have your nuclear suit nearby, just in case. Be prepared, keep your ear to the ground - if it does happen, don’t be taken by surprise
We should not be seeing DIX below 40 five times in rapid succession while pushing these all time highs
Be careful - stay alert

>> No.24247932

>>24247828
DD says no
Clown market says all in
So I'll fence sit with a few shares. >>24247853
Air bnb has potential massive upside if they can continue to weather covid and once everything is back to normal their stock should explode. However that's betting on things ever going back to normal sans a war.

>> No.24247940

>>24247888
On the android store Roblox ties with Genshin for the best score of the three

>> No.24247976
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No, seriously, I'm not bluffing.

>> No.24248000
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>>24247976
Why is a robot sweating

>> No.24248008

>>24247055
Is LGVW the play today? Will there be a dip around 10?

>> No.24248030
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Gold stocks gonna boom. Double bottom on gold. Recovery incoming.

>> No.24248062
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how often does the DOW swing 10k+ points in a year? Is this normal?

>> No.24248104

>>24248062
The market has detached from reality. It's almost better not to question it at this point.

>> No.24248137

>>24248062
When Boomers try to treat several problems at once - a health crisis, a debt crisis, and a social crisis - by printing hard enough for all 3 it is.

>> No.24248154

God damn LGVW why you gotta be so comfy
SPACS ftw.

>> No.24248184

>>24248104
I heard a nice comment on an interview:
"The market is the economy now"

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>> No.24248234

>>24244022
>fund manager who literally posts here.
Sauce? This sounds entertaining

>>24243261
>Took my 35k account to 400k in 3 months.
Proof? I find it hard to believe when most spacs dont even have options available.

>>24244621
Also curious. How do i find out what cathy is buying asap?

>> No.24248252

>>24248184
AAPL $120 is the new reserve currency.

>> No.24248270

>>24247628
>APXT
Oh. Oh that looks nice.

>> No.24248336
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I covered call literally all of my portfolio ending this Friday. I have missed out on life-changing earnings this Monday and Tuesday. I'm a fucking retard. My call premiums recieved are like 5% of the stock appreications on Monday and Tuesday alone. At least I'm not losing money because it just means I am selling my already owned stock for shit low prices, but still sucks man. Free sock tip for my /biz/ bros: Since all my oil stocks are getting sold on Friday's it's probably gonna fucking skyrocket 250% in the next two months. Everything I do stonks do the opposite, have fun.

>> No.24248362

>>24248270
APXT seems like the next move
Ill buy tomorrow

>> No.24248378

have no calls in my broker, so I have to settle for 10% per day. FUUUUUUUUU

>> No.24248396

>>24247495
What do they even do?

>> No.24248399
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Wtf happpened to futures

>> No.24248412
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I'm getting really scared frens

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>>24247221
I dont have Beef with Utz. I Hodl CPB because Kettle and Cape cod make the better salt and Vinegar brand. End of Story

>> No.24248458

>>24247669

people have been waiting for the real dip since April.
any day now

>> No.24248478

>>24248336
Now sell puts

>> No.24248481

>>24247861

EV bubble.

>> No.24248491

>>24248196
thanks

>> No.24248501
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>>24248336
Sorry to hear bro
" Since all my oil stocks are getting sold on Friday"
Which ones?

>> No.24248503

>>24248478
Should I do weeklys or far out? Right now the put premiums on my called away price are only 5 cents for a $41 stock. Feels bad, man.

>> No.24248519

>>24248396
Short version is debit card issuance for other parties and transaction verification. Think of any modern meme: instacart, doordash, uber, etc. They all use their services for internal financials and debit transactions (for example, load up only enough money on a card for an order on doordash and no more)

>> No.24248541

>>24248336

My stocks have been garbage for 4 months now they are all up 30-40% in a week. It's just impossible to time these things.

>> No.24248547

>>24248503
Sell monthlies but buy back at a certain profit. Don’t wait till expiry.

>> No.24248550

>>24248184
Actually I like this comment. It resonates with the madness.

>> No.24248569
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>>24248501
I've got almost all of them all being covered called on Friday
XOM
BP
COP
CVX
XLE

>> No.24248586
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sexy stock's

>> No.24248589

>>24248550
It basically is though as everything is monopolizing into mega companies, mostly publicly traded companies.

>> No.24248595

Based portfolio rate it
MRA
LGVW
PLTR
EOSE
any other ipo
any other spac
happy hunting clowns.
Also apxt

>> No.24248599

I AM UP 100% HOW LONG THIS SHIT WILL LAST? I AM ABOUT TO PULL OUT THE PLUG

>> No.24248601

>>24248547
>Don’t wait till expiry.
Why is this? So I can have more cash available to back the covered puts? Maybe I'm too conservative, when I see one of my puts that has no chance of ITM I feel like I am wasting money buying it back + commission rather than letting it expire worthless?

>> No.24248628

>>24248595
I'm putting half in PLTR and half in LGVW tomorrow. Will I make it, /lgbt/?

>> No.24248633

>>24248595
MARA

>> No.24248653

>>24248628
this is the way.

>> No.24248656

>>24248196
I cant digest this information in a frame of reference. Is this bullish for gme?

>> No.24248694

>>24247674
Chad

>> No.24248701

>>24248656
compare it to analyst estimates

>> No.24248722

>>24248701
Thanks.

>> No.24248736

I would like to see more useful and perspective projects. The best example is the gotEM system. These guys will go to the moon! The pre-sale will take place on telegram and its website. Buy GTX now: gotem.io

>> No.24248748

>>24248628
Don't gay up my stock

>> No.24248752

>>24248519
Oh i see thx. I assume they get a lot of business then

>> No.24248790

I'm so fucking drunk

>> No.24248820

>>24248790
God I wish that were me. alas I'm wage cucking but at least I can lurk while doing so

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I shorted the DAX, rip me

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>> No.24248884

>>24248790
im high as tittays
I need to decide between pltr or anotgher SPAC tomorrow
How high can pltr realistically go

>> No.24248919
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>>24248820
well, yesterday was my last shift until friday and i fomo'd in two companies that dumped BIG TIME. I want to cut down the alcohol consumption but /smg/ fucks and the whole market gave me enough reasons to resort back to alcoholism.
>>24248884
I'm thinking about texting my dealer to get a few g's but I'd rather just buy some shrooms to deal with my inner demons

>> No.24249019

>>24248884
Also, PLTR unironically $35 eoy but that's bc I'm fomoing @ whatever low it reaches today and 100 eo2020

>> No.24249035

>>24248601
Because it will never go to zero until expiry. Which means it could spike off volatility and you could get a buyback for super cheap way before the month is out.

>> No.24249088

>>24248919
get some bud feel good

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Hello fellas, does anyone use DMX token? Found on probit, looks legit. They have a an up-to-date staking system and workable tools for investors and traders. They have finished private sale with 1mln: dymmax.com

>> No.24249098

Anons am I doing good? This chart is actually $2700 less than what I’m actually at because I pulled all of my original investment out. Also I haven’t been on /biz/ since like 2018 so hello again friends.

>> No.24249104

>CRSR
>PLTR

What’s next? ROBLOX? Whens the IPO?

>> No.24249121
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>>24249098
Fuck I forgot to upload
>inb4 charge ur fone faget

>> No.24249123

>>24249095
india and indians are stinky

>> No.24249146

>>24249121
Jesus anon you are a pro at this

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>>24249095

>an entire board for shitcoins/scamcoins.
>decide to post your scam in /smg/ anyway


I hope you get hit by a bus is whatever foreign country you are living in.

>> No.24249167

>>24247149
i think it'll be a pump and dump

>> No.24249169

>>24249121
what are your picks?

>> No.24249181

>>24249167
Be a good meme either way.

>> No.24249186

>>24248412
100% increase... anon tell me how

>> No.24249207

>>24248919
There is nothing wrong with drinking yourself to death

>> No.24249220

>>24249019
JEsus im guessing i better get in before december. the fomo is real. i wonder if normies even know about pltr yet
Baggie had no idea what it was so that should tell you

>> No.24249225

>>24248336
anon if you give up you can't possibly make it
you can't stop now

>> No.24249269

>>24247579
let me give you some advice from a fellow poor fag,

have 1 safe ETF to put good % of portfolio and the rest in just a select few stocks, you dont need to diversify that hard especially when low amounts, you'll only net like what ? 2$

>> No.24249287

>>24249146
$10000 of that has just been this week and $7000 was the week before that. I bought 5 $27 NIO calls for $1 and sold at $15 then rolled that immediately into Ford, Oxy and AAL calls. The one I’m most excited about is $35 OXY Jan 2022 calls. They’re ridiculously cheap right now (~$1 Per) and I scooped a ton at .60. Ive been gradually selling as they rise just so I don’t repeat the mistakes I made with crypto in 2017.

>> No.24249305

>>24248184
wow thats a good way to put it, might aswell get rich while its booming baby

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>>24247118
I just panic-sold 100 shares of PLTR because I thought it was going to dip. The stock-selling restriction on the other investors of PLTR is making my faith dwindle. Please help me guys; ever since I started to doubt their success in the commercial sector, I've been panicking.

>> No.24249341

>>24249169
See>>24249287
Oil, airlines and vehicles are all sectors that haven’t really rebounded a ton since March. Oil is gonna go up big and so is airline travel(theres gonna be great news this week about Thanksgiving air travel)

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PLTR broke 21Euros/25$ in the EU market. Crazy.

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>>24249019
>>24249220
I closed out of my position in case of the potential correction coming soon to the tech sector, but it looks like I'm hopping right back on during the dip today.

>> No.24249510

>>24249341
Be careful with oil, anon. I'm becoming less faithful in anything oil-related that isn't in Saudi America or Russia, unless you really think that the Democrats will pass a stimulus to power the whole oil sector into recovery.

>> No.24249544

When LGVW hit 15 it triggered my stop limit yesterday, but kinda wanna get back in... 17.45 in premarket. It's totally gonna dip for a bit like it did yesterday yeah? And thats when I rebuy?

>> No.24249581

>>24249544
>PLTR is $17 right now, I’ll buy when it dips below $13

>> No.24249598

>>24248919
Get ahold of yourself. If anything, you sound like you need to stay sober for a few days to help restabilize yourself. Trust me anon, I've been doing dab after dab (about 4 dabs of G6 Jet Fuel) per smoking session. It wasn't until I tried to go on a tolerance break for 3 whole days that I decided to smoke just a little bit again, and I got fucking roasted from just one dab. Just go sober for a little bit, trust me bro, it does infinitely more good for you than pounding alcohol. Then you can go back after a few days once you're clean and sharp-minded.

>> No.24249629

>>24247665
> Does Warren Buffet even know what a Roblox is?
does /smg/?

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24249677

You all invested in StartEngine right? Crypto was the new wave, Robinhood became the next wave, ask yourself logically what the next wave will be... What will be the normies next way of breaking into finance? Venture capital for poors. They love shark tank, they'll see Mr Wonderful on TV telling them they can do it too and this thing will explode more than it already has.

If you're not familiar, you go to StartEngine and can invest in a variety of vetted, private companies. They had their own funding rounds, which I bought into immediately, and will likely have more. They've also had some notable companies such as MCSquares and KnightScope, among many many others.

That alone is all good and fun, but they recently launched the Secondary Market with no commissions... Meaning they will essentially be the Robinhood of private equity, buy into a company and instead of being tied to it until a buyout/public listing, you'll be able to sell it right on StartEngine. Since secondary is so new ( 2 weeks old) it currently only supports trading of STGC (StartEngine) so the hype isn't real yet (other than the price literally doubling today) but when more markets launch and they can move onto developing the app and increase advertising beyond CNBC, this company will 50x(last round was at a $221m valuation, Robinhood currently valued at $11b, StartEngine has much more potential as they get listing fees/equity/etc on top of all the data they will be able to collect and sell outlining what the general public has large interest in, would buy/use themselves, and if they want they can even break into stonks and render Robinhood obsolete.

Get out of the crazy valuations of public companies before the crash and get into the moonshots at ground zero

>> No.24249687

>>24249454
PLTR $30s 12/31c
Oopinions? or should i stay away

What about NIO calls? lol

>> No.24249699

>>24249544
If you buy the open just don't be like the paperhands who bought the open yesterday and sold like an hour later at the first dip. Hodl it anon!

>> No.24249708

>>24249629
all I know is that zoomers like it and play it like millenials played WoW back in the day (meaning way too fucking much)

>> No.24249723

>>24249677
Is this OTC or NASDAQ? If it's not on NASDAQ, I typically don't fuck with it.

>> No.24249727

>>24249677
1 post by this id

>> No.24249764

>>24249708
>>24249629
I used to be on the leaderboards for some weather surivial game mode lmao, I was like 25 at the time

>> No.24249776

>>24249677
No thanks I like the current scam I'm in.

>> No.24249786

>>24249723
It's private equity, not sure what fuckery they're using to open private equity up to poorfags (ie, not accredited investors)

>> No.24249788

>>24249325
>The stock-selling restriction on the other investors of PLTR is making my faith dwindle
https://seekingalpha.com/article/4390842-palantirs-lock-up-period

>> No.24249789

>>24249687
>What about NIO calls? lol
I don't know dude, I see a lot of shit on YouTube talking about the "EV Bubble", so if a lot of the normies are talking about it, people might start pulling out in droves, or maybe not. All I know is that when Nio was between 56 and 57 today, I could've made a quick 400 bucks on a one-day swing trade (bought yesterday, sold this morning). However, I got greedy, and NIO dipped, and I got out just in case at 53.70ish so I could buy on a potential dip.

Let's just wait to see what the market for EV's does later today, then start to think about your options. If everyone continues to buy EV during the bubble even after they acknowledge the bubble, then you are probably safe.

>> No.24249809

>>24249764
I remember years ago I used to play a roblox version of Left 4 Dead 2. Good times

>> No.24249844

>>24249788
>https://seekingalpha.com/article/4390842-palantirs-lock-up-period

"...is expected to continue until the start of the third trading day following the date of public disclosure of Palantir's financial results for the year ending December 31, 2020 (the 'lock-up period')."
So, we have until the end of this year? But I thought it was 180 days from IPO (even though technically this company was a DPO, not an IPO, but I digress). Just as a reminder, I'm kind of an idiot, so I'm probably missing a lot of shit.

>> No.24249859

>>24249789
>youtube
Ev bubble is real yeah, but sleepy joe is taking over, ots basically our generations version of gold, fuck me maybe illl just buy some tesla shares and never look back
These little chinks are nothing compared to musk

>> No.24249861

>>24249844
Apparently there are 2 different periods where lock up ends

>> No.24249863

closed my value stocks, only in BABA now. Will reenter next week.

>> No.24249878

>>24249454
PLTR 35EOY non npn-=negotiable

>> No.24249894

>>24249844
>The company is 17 years old, so there may be pent-up demand to sell, although as the company had an active secondary market, anyone desperate to sell could have already unloaded

>> No.24249897

GME $15 eod

>> No.24249911

>>24249861
Ah, thanks for clarifying that. Honestly, it would be very funny to see if the surge in puts for PLTR would cause the initial investors to just hold their stocks to fuck them. If I were someone to do options (and I'm not, I'm cash-only), I wouldn't touch any options based on the release of the lock-up period. Just my .02 cents.

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>>24249581
Lel I didn't say that, but I assume it'll dip to 15~16.
>>24249699
I dunno if I believe in it long term!! I was honestly just hoping to make some quick money riding the momentum. I already made a few hundie from selling it yesterday so I got cushion room but idk haha

You know what, I drew a card and the card is saying to not buy open and instead make a limit order and wait for the dip. This is what I shall do.

>> No.24249922

>>24249897
based I'm down for that

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So Europeanbros, I have used DeGiro for a few months trading and already have made 100% gains. I think I'm ready to move somewhere with more things to buy like options.

I'm thinkg about switching to Interactive brokers (has the biggest selection of securities, but is somewhat difficult to use) and Trading212(has more types of securities to buy, and I think some of them are CFD which sucks, but it has options)

Any opinions on those two or any other broker for a measly europoor??

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24249943

What do I buy more of today:

PLTR
PLUG
SPCE
UBER
LGVW
HYLN
NET

>> No.24249954

>>24249943
GME

SPCE is a scam

>> No.24249955

>>24249894
>...although as the company had an active secondary market, anyone desperate to sell could have already unloaded
Wait, so they could have unloaded those locked-up shares through a secondary market instead of NYSE already? If so, then that will definitely restore a substantial amount of faith into PLTR.

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24249961

>NBAC up 16% in pre-market
We are going to make it bros...

>> No.24249965

>>24249924
trading 212 does not have options. IB does

>> No.24249966

>>24249916
>I dunno if I believe in it long term
If a day is what you consider long term I have bad news for you anon...

>> No.24249980

>>24249943
NIO on dips, but if it continues to dump today as it did yesterday, wait a little bit longer to buy.

>> No.24249990

>>24249980
Can't buy NIO in my Stock and Shares Isa (tax tree account)

>> No.24250000

>>24249916
>Drawing tarot cards
Be careful, anon.

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daily reminder its not to late FOMOing into CRSR

>> No.24250011

>>24249966
Not at all, I'm saying that I wouldn't mind getting it at open if I believed in it long term because what it does in a day did the matter.. but if I'm just looking for a quick buck I'm gonna wanna buy it on a dip

>> No.24250019

>>24250000
>>24249916
Quads are telling you something.

>> No.24250021

>>24247463
This guy gets it.
Also, buy shares, store of value.

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24250039

Today's the day LGVW chads...

>> No.24250045

>>24249990
Then I'd do PLTR out of your whole list. PLUG and SPCE are sensational stocks, and the rest are garbage stocks. But keep an eye on PLTR and get ready to sell if there's any bit of indication of a dip.

>> No.24250066

Okay sold half my PLTR position yesterday.
What's the next play?

>> No.24250076

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

>> No.24250091

>>24250039
Rocket is fuelled and ready to continue the moon mission!

>> No.24250101

>>24250066
Buy pltr.

>> No.24250102

>>24250066
Buy PLTR?

>> No.24250109

>>24250066
GME, or ARGGY because DBX is launching soon and the first batch of preorders for it are all sold out till next year according to their Q3 transcript

>> No.24250119

>>24250101
>>24250102
Might pick it up again on the next dip I guess.

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Good morning, both GME and PLTR to 30$ today?

>> No.24250150

>>24250122
I wish since i own both

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>lgvw at 18 pre market
I’m going to sleep in tomorrow.

>> No.24250171

>>24247351
21 day minimum from filing

>> No.24250199

Chad reporting in:
BABA
AZN
RIO
who else into mining?

>> No.24250217

>>24247853
I'm all in on airbnb

>> No.24250226

>>24250199
>BABA
I'm a little uncertain of getting back onto the BABA train, because of what the CCP did to Jack Ma and the Ant IPO.

>> No.24250240

>>24250150
Based, what else do you hold? I hold both those and NIO

>> No.24250255

>>24250240
ARGGY, and a few shares of OPTI since I put my leftover change from trades into it.

>> No.24250260

>>24250119
why are you retards like this? Just hold onto it for longer than a day to make more profit

>> No.24250262

>>24250039
we got this

>> No.24250267

>>24249677
$7 spread

>> No.24250290

>>24250260
>why are you retards like this?
I'm honestly worried PLTR is going to dip soon if they don't have enough of the commercial sector's interest, and I sometimes worry it's going to happen soon.

>> No.24250326

Everything green already

LOOOOOOOOOL

neck yourself bobo

>> No.24250333

>>24250290
They have government contracts up the ass from deporting immigrants to covid even the brits are contracting them, a former exec for them is going to be deputy director of the CIA soon. relax.

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24250335

WHEN ROBLOX IPO WHEN ROBLOX IPO WHEN ROBLOX IPO

>> No.24250340

>>24250255
Nice, I think you'll be good anon
Also checked

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everything red premarket

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24250387

Quick frens talk me out of something extremely reckless I'm considering around market open. I've noticed this pattern that 99.9/100 times works against me and results in minuscule gains for me. I'm about to do the exact reverse, high risk and if I'm right I stand to walk away with 1.5x gains, if reversing my ownself is accurate. The window of opportunity is small in that I do not have much time to pull this off and the potential of it will cease soon. I do not have much time to think before it just becomes another "what if" and the opportunity ceases to exist for the time being. I have maybe a week at best to make up my mind.

>> No.24250399

>NIO dipping in pre-market by 1.7% already in 18 mins to 52.60
>sold at 53.70 when I saw some instability
Time to get ready to buy some dips. Let's see how far this bad boy goes.

>> No.24250409

>>24250387
The risk is i lose it all.

>> No.24250412

>>24250226
you know the CEO has ties with the communist party, it's just FUD, they are going to do the IPO sooner or later, stock is undervalued.

>> No.24250417

Is PLTR gonna fucking moon for the 3rd day in a row?
Wtf.

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24250426

NPAC UP 25% THIS IS NOT A DRILL.

Don't miss this SPAC make sure to buy before you miss the rest of the moon mission.

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24250438

>TSLA about 570
>I dumped all of my Roth IRA into TSLA last week after the addition of Tesla into the S&P 500.

>> No.24250447

>>24250426
you're never going to live down being btfo by an ethot and shilling /smg/ on fucking youtube streams unless you stop avatarfagging

>> No.24250457

>>24250426
Not NPAC sorry bros I meant NBAC

>> No.24250476

>>24250438
If I get dizzy off of smoking one cigarette will I be able to smoke cigar?

>> No.24250479

>>24250447
Keep talking shit I made 25% bitch

>> No.24250490

>>24250457
North Baltimore Aquatic Club?

>> No.24250499

>>24250476
Cigars to me got me less dizzy. There's way more shit in cigarettes to get you high. I'm an ex-smoker of 10 years btw.

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>>24250479
GME has gone up 20% since you lost a pissing match on Stocktwits to an ASMR hoe, and she was the bullish one

>> No.24250537

Do you guys show your portfolio to friends and family ?

>> No.24250578

>>24250537
Only to my dad but that's just because I'm trying to teach him about stocks and things that are not his own banks bullshit expensive funds

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>>24250533
I think you have me mistaken with someone else. Last time I spoke about something I was bullish on it was NIO. I like the Chinese EV's like NBAC.

>> No.24250616

I'm arriving late to the party I suppose, if you had 7k to split between LGVW and PLTR does 50/50 seem reasonable enough? Or would you weight one more heavily?

>> No.24250617

>>24250537
No. Also don't give them investing advice either. Only thing I have done is show a few of them how online brokers work and basics of how to buy/sell stocks, index funds, and ETFs

>> No.24250660

>>24250616
>7k
>LGVW
>PLTR

FOMO much?

>> No.24250668

>>24250616
Mate you ain't late at all, NBAC is still below $20

>> No.24250670

>>24250596
a dude called "aquablade" using the first pic you posted as an avatar has been shilling /smg/ on youtube and lost a pissing match with an ASMR hoe on Stocktwits, if that ain't you then just enjoy his cringe

>> No.24250684

>>24250537
I shilled KTOV to my neighbor.

>> No.24250707

>>24250409
the 99,9% probability of "losing it all" doesn't seem good for your portfolio.

https://www.investopedia.com/terms/e/expected-value.asp

>> No.24250709

>>24250660
Yeah, if there's still upside to both I'd rather FOMO in earlier than later.
>>24250668
Redpill me on NBAC, what do they do?

>> No.24250717

Guys shill me on this nigger:

Is literally EVERY IPO now booming 100% immediately? I missed Cosair and PLTR.

I need some of those gains. Should i just buy every IPO at open?

Thinking ABNB and the other tech nigger plays

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>>24250670
Never heard of him, I just respect the emperor Aurelian. Plus I'm trying to help you boys make money like /biz/ has done for me time and time again.

>> No.24250733

>>24250709
If you really have the urge, then I'd say PLTR

>> No.24250737

>>24250537
I shilled CRSR to my dad and friends

>> No.24250743

>>24250537
To My cousin because he is very interested in starting once he is 18 years old
He wants to be one those guys who makes it by 30 owning 3 businesses and rental properties like the Arabs who drive g wagons and Nissan gtr

>> No.24250749

>>24250684
You must really hate him

>> No.24250762

>>24250733
You're saying LGVW is past its prime?

>> No.24250765

Fcuk PLTR is still a viable play?

>> No.24250770

>>24250537
I had a friend who I gave some stock picks to.
We bought AMD at $56, NET at $40, TSM at $80, WDC at $37.
He liquidated some of his positions because he needed some money, but it was nice I at least made him %+50 on two of my picks and 10-20% on the other.

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24250780

Why does CNN hate PLTR?

>> No.24250786

>>24250762
nah lmao,

>> No.24250793

>>24250709
>>24250717
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ep60O-W6y7s&ab_channel=MyFinancialFriend

This guy can explain it better than me. It's a Chinese EV charger company got good details aside from not much money (which they will get from the SPAC)

>> No.24250802

>>24250780
They don’t it’s a reverse niggering

>> No.24250804

>>24250780
Liberals, holy fuck everything is pointing towards BUY PLTR.
might just buy a stack and hold at this point.

>> No.24250809

>>24250770
Also talk about stocks with my dad.
He bought AMD at $49 and had a 70% ROI.
And we usually message each other about how we think the day is gonna go. Also think he bought some RKT on my recommendation. Tried to shill him PLTR but he didn't like all the debt, etc. Could've netted him some easy bucks.
I hadn't really had many things in common with my dad until he got me into buying stocks, so that's always nice.

>> No.24250828

>GME
>premarket volume: 115
Who are the tiny retail guys buying 100 shares of Gamestop at 3 in the morning?

>> No.24250833

>>24250457
Not sure who you are or what your deal is but if you have to avatarfag and stir drama for attention, then you haven't made it no matter what % up you are

>> No.24250843

>>24250743
Why doesn't he just start now?
The earlier he starts the better.

>> No.24250869

>>24250743
100% this.
>>24250843

>> No.24250872

>>24250843
sounds illegal

>> No.24250905

>>24250872
Why would it be?
A lot of people start trading when they're like 14.

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24250919

>>24250872
You think every billionaire in the world got there legally?

>> No.24250933

>>24250843
He has been investing in gumball machines to start a business that way with his money he makes at his part time job
Idk any brokerage that would let him invest at 16

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>>24250833
No need to be so mean, I'm just trying to help a brother out.

>> No.24250965

>>24250933
You'll need to open a custodian account for him assuming you're american.
So just be his custodian of the account and he can trade. (you should probably ask his parents for permission also)

>> No.24250997

>>24249863
BABA is going down hard.

>> No.24251000

I thought Rolls-Royce shares would go up after the nuclear reactor announcement...
L-long term stock r-right brehs?

>> No.24251009

>>24250707
I meant 99.9% of being right, 0.01% of it going against me. As every time I did it, it would go against me so if I reverse it the odds should be in my favor considering most of the indicators.

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>>24250537
Mostly my dad, he even gave me money to invest, said he doesn't care if I lose it and he trusts me, so that's a bit of a pressure
I also shilled PLTR to my friend when you guys first shilled it, and he's up 75% by now... And I didn't buy then because I had no money..
Also shilled XPENG to my friend when it was like 23$, but he sold at like 40$

>> No.24251030

futures.......

>> No.24251041

>>24251009
>It literally can't go tits up

>> No.24251057

>>24250963
Sorry didn't mean to hurt your feelings
>>24250933
Feels like gumball machines would be a lot of work for not so much return, yeah?

>> No.24251067

Guys, over the time I've traded I've noticed an often occurring pattern that I thought I would enlighten you on. I bet you may have subconsciously noticed it as well.
What I've learned is that every time my portfolio goes up it's because I've masterfully read the market and invested wisely, and every time my portfolio is red those god damned globalists are manipulating the market.
Just thought I would share.

>> No.24251071

>>24250997
WHY

>> No.24251072

PLTR chads?

>> No.24251084

>>24250804

Fuck off CHUD

>> No.24251085

Is today the day I invest in Exxon?
Been eyeing it, but unsure if it's gone up too much lately...

>>24250537
My dad. Mom is anti-stocks.

>> No.24251101

Is the smg etf guy here?
Did he ever set up the etoro portfolio sharing thing?

>> No.24251103 [DELETED] 

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>>24250828
Kek, someone can't sleep

>> No.24251110

>>24251071
Alibaba Group apps were banned in India because of border dispute. Now BABA is in free fall in premarket. It will probably fall to 260 in main session.

>> No.24251115

>>24251067
anytime my portfolio is green it's because I bought memes, anytime my portfolio is red it's because I bought memes

>> No.24251132

>>24248184
>"The market is the economy now"
PLTR will be a $1000 stablecoin in 5 years

>> No.24251135

Too late for FOMOing PLTR?

>> No.24251153

>>24251110
Guess I got some heavy bags

>> No.24251157

>>24251135
No

>> No.24251174

>>24250933
>gumball machines
How exactly do you even convince a property owner to let you set it up?

>> No.24251186

>>24251153
I guess BABA is good if you are brave to short. Easy money for such fellas.

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24251201

Is it too late for LGVW guys?

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>> No.24251202

>>24249911
Im confused what are you suggesting here? Pltr pumps, dumps, or crabs?

>> No.24251213

>>24251057
Baby first investment for 120
He sold half of them for 2x what he paid for them
So he kept the other half of them for free
Can’t lose money on that.

>> No.24251217

>>24251201
It's too late and too early, it will keep dipping

>> No.24251220

SPACS are the new gold boys

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24251229

>>24251203
>>24251103

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>>24251220
The last time there was this much hype about SPACs they all ate shit

>> No.24251254

>>24250997
No it isn’t you retarded niggercuck

That’s just your recency bias that makes you sell the bottom faggot

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>>24250009
No can do fren. Upside is far too limited compared to downside. Even some of my personal picks stand to gain 1.5x without already having a gigantic near vertical rally. I wish i bought it at IPO but its too late for me. Ill have extrmeley weak hands holding it at these prices after such a run up

>> No.24251256

>>24251110
Those news are already 2 days old and baba grew yesterday

>> No.24251279
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>>24247055
What time will LGVW dip so I can buy?

>> No.24251283

>>24251220
This guy knows.

>> No.24251285

>>24250717
PLS RESPONDO

>> No.24251286

>>24251174
They are basically free at this point since he sold half his stack of gumball machines for 2x what he paid for them.
So even if he can’t set them up he can sell the rest for pure profit

>> No.24251287

There is going to be a lot of bagholding for those buying SPACs if you don't do your research

>> No.24251303

>>24251279
A little bit after opening most likely if the pattern of bull rush at opening and then massive dumps repeats. It has happened with all the meme stocks for few weeks now. Except CRSR it just keeps on pumping with some dips (smaller than opening) midday then pumps again.

>> No.24251305

>>24251279
It'll open high and dip after 45 minutes, so I have seen. Ready your cash

>> No.24251314

>>24250780
It’s now a yolo meme stock, technicals mean nothing.

>> No.24251316

>>24251285
Ant Group, I guess

>> No.24251332

>>24251287
What's the downside if you buy when it's just over $10?

>> No.24251347

>>24251287
the amount of people here that seem to think "buy random SPAC = free money" makes me think we're near another local top, bigger than June or September

DOW 25,000 EOW

>> No.24251355

>>24251332
Almost nothing. Only if the company is trash.

>> No.24251357

only 69 shares of pltr so far, this bitch dont stop going up
I haven't finished accumulating!!

>> No.24251369

>>24251041
Kekd. If i do it and it suceeds i may post it on here. A 50% gain in less than a months time on nearly my entire portfolio would be awesome. Some cash is in stuff i dont want to let go atm

>> No.24251386

>>24251357
>this bitch
/smg/ is a thread that respects women, please refrain from this kind of sexist language, thank you

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I hope all the newfriends buying whatever/smg/ shills and making money because we're in a golden bull run realize just how fast the rug can be pulled

>> No.24251403

>>24251249
This is my biggest worry. Last time this happened i ended up selling before they dumped hard. Unfornately i dumped one pick that i shouldve not only held but gone all in on, SBE. AAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

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>>24250066
>selling the Microsoft of big data for scraps

>> No.24251407

NEW

>>24251399
>>24251399
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>>24251399
>>24251399
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>> No.24251411

>>24251332
Nothing if you buy near $10, it's just the people buying crappy SPACs way above and end up bagholding when the price drops.

>> No.24251426

>>24251405
I'm buying back on the dip bro

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>>24251386
im sorry sir, going back to work

>> No.24251467

>>24251396
A pandemic (real or fake I don't really care anymore) is a once in 100 years event

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What do you guys think? Placed a order to put 10k more into GME, I’m only using 40k margin with that included out of my 130,000, I think I’m gonna margin into PLTR at the next dip. Maybe sell my CLR shares for PLTR too

>> No.24251502

>>24251485
CLF**

>> No.24251559

>>24251485
>PLTR at the next dip
wait for PLTR dip is dumb. You get your dip, and its typically 10% higher than if you hadnt waited at all.

>> No.24251787

>>24250717
Typically it's not a good idea to buy something immediately upon IPO, but that was back in the real world. We're approaching levels of honk that were never thought possible.

>> No.24251802

>>24250780
Because they know exactly how disgustingly corrupt they are.

>> No.24252134

>>24251559
I think you’re right anon I took profits not too long ago but from what I’m gathering they’re only going up until EOY when the rest of the shares drop so it’s now or never