Understanding sexual marketplace

[Anonymous No.24050169]

Was it women's idea to commoditize and package their main asset (sex) for sale? Seems kind of stupid - before the current sexual liberation, sex was in high demand and in very short supply unless you were willing to commit to a woman.

Today it's the exact opposite situation - an equal or declining demand for sex but there is an oversupply of sexual gratification, and it's never been cheaper or more readily available.

How will this end for women and society in general? Marriage rates are already on the decline and I don't see that improving unless the sex supply dwindles once again.

[Anonymous No.24050210]

it works exactly like claiming haircomb token marketplace, you commit, and you hope you get what's yours

[SAGE No.24050343]

>>24050169
It's really simple you just sage threads like this

[Anonymous No.24050457]

>>24050169
Sometimes I feel like the trends in the world can be explained by the increasing availability and growing social acceptance of short term gratification.

100-200 years ago you'd have to go out to have sex and you'd have to keep it under wraps or fuck a hooker in a back alley. On top of that you had culture and religious institutions enforcing monogamy.

Fast forward to today and this option is much more available, almost completely socially acceptable and to top it off even making money off it is becoming socially acceptable.

I don't even blame women for wanting to interrupt their miserable existence with an orgasm or buying some trinket that will give them a moments happiness. They do not know any better. Half the incels resenting them for it would be doing the same thing if they had the same options.

[Anonymous No.24050489]

>>24050169
>>24050457
do you think in the close future (like 10 years from now) prostitution will finally be legalized and de-stigmatized?

like imagine dad gifting 1 day with an escort to his 18yo son, the simp/incel problem would be instantly fixed

[Anonymous No.24050495]

>>24050169
female vagina is not a commodity that seeks dollars
female vagina is a commodity that seeks 10/10 facial aesthetic male sperm

your entire premise is wrong op

[Anonymous No.24050575]

Anyone wanna make gay porn together?

[Anonymous No.24050644]

>>24050495
How is the premise wrong? Sex used to only be a packaged commodity for prostitutes in the past. Sexual relationships at one point was hidden behind lock and key - only getting to know a woman and marrying her would allow you to get the treasure.

The female vagina is not seeking dollars, those that control it seek dollars. Women (or i posit SOMEONE) has changed the rules such that this once scarce commodity is now freely available and is cheaper than ever. Why would they cheapen something that used to be so precious and scarce? Pussy was once gold and now is copper.

[Anonymous No.24050659]

>>24050169
>Was it women's idea to commoditize and package their main asset (sex) for sale? Seems kind of stupid
Why? Say you have an in-demand asset (your body), and you can exchange this asset (sex) for other forms of value (money, attention) that interest you, and still keep your asset (you can have sex more than once). Why wouldn't you? In fact, I would argue the opposite - that it would be stupid not to.

>Today it's the exact opposite situation - an equal or declining demand for sex
What are you basing this claim on? I'm seeing a higher demand for sex than ever before - such that people are paying out massive amounts just for pictures of people engaging in sex (onlyfans).

>How will this end for women
Perfectly fine. Clearly there is little interest (except by incels) of putting a stop to this voluntary exchange.

> and society in general?
Also fine. Sounds like are under the mistaken assumption that hasn't happened in society in the past, and we still have a society.

[Anonymous No.24050666]

All I know is that a good VN plus the right toys are almost as good as a woman already. I can fuck teen girls after saving the world and they always love me and we always cum at the same time. When VR gets good women are screwed.

[Anonymous No.24050697]

>>24050666
>right toys
elaborate

[Anonymous No.24050715]

>>24050644
>1900
>woman forced to marry ugly man because he is hardworking, stable and can provide for a family
>2020
>woman gets money from state so she can fuck 10/10 face chads without having to worry about commitment or financial stability
the pussy got exactly what it wanted

[Anonymous No.24050727]

>>24050489
I think it should. There is already a decriminalization process for drugs, I don't see why sex shouldn't be next. It should have been first to be honest.

[Anonymous No.24050804]

>>24050644

Look, women do the best they can to keep the value of pussy high. This is why their hivemind "sisterhood" shames women for being "too easy", or for not being insufferable feminists like the rest.

but the fact is they have this hunk of flesh that can generate infinite value for them sitting between their legs, so its difficult for them to individually resist breaking rank.

in a world where everything is commodified and where promiscuity is encouraged, its no surprise that this behavior occurs. motherhood and family has been denigrated and all status seems to derive from material possession, and female "empowerment" is held up as an objective good. so why wouldn't they prostitute themselves when everything around them encourages and rewards it?

[Anonymous No.24050917]

>>24050727
Prostitution is never going to be legalised. OnlyFans, Tinder, pornography, etc. flourish because men have become overexposed to sexual impulses and are habitually sexually frustrated in modern society. It's the sugar of the mind, they load us up with it so that we continue to consoom it.
Prostitution, ironically, gives men back some of that power back by being able to choose when they feel sexual release. It's still not great (the only true solution is long-term relationships by two people who love each other) but it dampens the endless sexual hunger. That's why it'll never be legalised, and the women that are employed by it will always be viewed as traitors by other women.

[Anonymous No.24051017]

>>24050917
prostitution is legal in lots of cunts
germany, straya and netherlands to name a few

[Anonymous No.24051019]

>>24050715
This.

>>24050644
Quite the opposite. You don’t understand female hypergamy. Majority of women are attracted to the top 20% of men. Pussy may be copper as you put it for chads but the other 80% of men are struggling for scraps. This is creating a situation where more and more men are becoming incels and/or beta cucks as well as higher rates of single motherhood.

[Anonymous No.24051067]

>>24051017
yeah, but it's still universally considered to be a thing for losers who can't get laid

[Anonymous No.24051081]

>>24051067
mostly in America. I believe in Europe its considered a lot more normal.

[Anonymous No.24051087]

>>24051067
>but it's still universally considered to be a thing for losers who can't get laid
>meanwhile onlyfans
times changed, buddy

[Anonymous No.24051090]

>>24051067
you worry about that, I will be busy getting my dick sucked

[Anonymous No.24051098]

>>24051017
Yeah man. It’s easy. It’s great. It’ll happen everywhere else soon

[Anonymous No.24051109]

>>24051090
>>24051087
>>24051081
cope, it's a fact. chads don't pay for pussy

[Anonymous No.24051126]

It seems to me soon the Uniswap will meet real competitors on the DeFi market. It seems to me, the Dymmax (dymmax.com) has all odds to rise even higher tothemoon. What do you think?

[Anonymous No.24051142]

>>24051126
this paid memes are so fucking bad, like i pity those who actually pay the pajeets

[Anonymous No.24051170]

pedophiles in this thread

[Anonymous No.24051180]

>>24051109
>people who get stuff for free don't pay for it

good insight

[Anonymous No.24051206]

>>24050659
So you’re saying in the future all women will be prostitutes and everything is gonna be fine with that. Also there are more and more incels every time, you say only them care about this, well when they’re 50% of the male population it will be significant.

[Anonymous No.24051217]

>>24051067
This

>>24051081
Nah

[Anonymous No.24051237]

>>24050169
What does this mean for ugly women?

[Anonymous No.24051252]

>>24050495
your sjw fake feminism is showing. go back

[Anonymous No.24051423]

>>24050666
You should look into picrelated. Warm, tight, and you can have as many as you want of either or both sexes. Treat them right and they will love you forever and want as much sex as you can give them.

[Anonymous No.24051432]

>>24051423
dogs smell, cats are more comfy

[Anonymous No.24051433]

>>24050917
Yeah, it will not be legalized because it would be good for society. Fuck that makes me so angry.

[Anonymous No.24051912]

>>24051067
>>24051081
It's weird it's so taboo in america, but is pretty normal for military member to do it when in other countries. It was just a normal thing people joked about in Germany/korea.

[Anonymous No.24051952]

>>24051019
So pussy is more scarce for some men (betas/incels) and becoming less valuable for others (chads). Interesting so it's a little more complicated than I thought about. It's a complex market. But if what you say is true, then the people that women would want to settle down and marry with (chads) would view their pussy as much less valuable than they would have in the past, so their best bet is to try and settle down with a man who still views it as an extremely scarce commodity. Which in this day and age would be an extremely unsocial/ugly man.

Women are getting a lot out of commoditization of their pussies but they are also losing a lot in return. This will have huge impact on birth rates, family structures, social safety nets which require birth rates to stay above 2.0, among other things.

[Anonymous No.24052129]

>>24050489
>do you think in the close future (like 10 years from now) prostitution will finally be legalized and de-stigmatized?

Legalized where? The states? I imagine that gradually some states might begin to legalize it in similar fashion to the way weed is being legalized. That being said I am not familiar with the cultural context and there might be influences e.g. from the Church that might block this.

As for de-stigmatized, I think it will be almost as de-stigmatized as Onlyfans is, i.e. some people think it's perfectly fine and some will always look down on it.

There will always be a subset of men who will never enter a serious relationship with a prostitute. These will often be high-status men.

I bet this will aggravate the pro-prostitution branch of feminism and there will be attempts to shame these men for these choices, but ultimately this won't make a difference. Becoming a prostitute will always come with a non-trivial cost.

[Anonymous No.24052610]

>>24051952
its interesting because most attractive females these days expect attractive men to simp for them and put them on a pedestal. when attractive guys dont try hard enough, they become bitchy cunts and turn to less attractive males for personal gratification and moral support. the gene pool is suffering, as very few mutually attractive couples exist due to this whole pussy power dilemma. feminine traits are dominating, most young men these days look really low test and strong jawlines are rare. on the flip side women are becoming increasingly attractive, some young girls these days are off the charts. because of this disparity, very very few women are getting properly fucked in to submission. basically theres not enough chad dick to go around anymore and the ones who arent getting it are ruining society meNwhile vibing their pussy to the thought of chad. seriously we need more strong attractive intelligent men to lead society. no more fucking betaboy coomers simping for stacies.

[Anonymous No.24052777]

also i think of a lot of women in terms of ltr's and rate them on how i could see them eventually raising a child. most of them would be terrible mothers. this is also fucking up society, because the maternal bond is very important in terms of developing healthy, sane humans. likewise for having a strong father figure mentor. all this coupled with the age of convenience , poor diets, and porn. were fucked. only the retards are having babies.

[Anonymous No.24052839]

>>24050169
It will end in Jews setting up their temple and Jesus returning to send them all back to Hell where they belong.

[Anonymous No.24052870]

>>24051952
Its also worth noting this will have an impact on societal stability. As a greater number of men can't get any women the whole society becomes more distrustful, more violent, and just works less well. You see this in societies with polygamy, rape and violence is common, the leaders of the society or tribe have to keep underlings in line with violence. I don't imagine this current situation will last though, things will probably reach a tipping point due to this and other factors, there'll be a collapse, then we'll revert back to a more traditional society.

[Anonymous No.24052948]

>>24050169
I dunno but porn is 100000x better than its ever been. Im an oldfag and porn for me was some grainy vhs shit with ugly bitches. Today, you got some legit 9/10 guzzling 15 cocks at once in 4k and its free and readily available. This is really the only way women can compete in a sexual sense. When I was younger and couldn't get laid, I had to resort to some playboy magazine but now I can watch some hot bitch get plowed in HD with a variety of pocket pussy toys. Why bother with women if all you want is sex?

[Anonymous No.24052957]

>>24050169
Certain (((people))) have pushed porn and degeneracy at every angle, it is by far the norm now. Look at how readily we look at sluts like this, thinking it is normal to have huge tits and nice bodies. We lust after them instead of building our own lives.

One of the biggest redpills if if you see these whores on tiktok or something and how outright stupid they behave. One step above retard. Sure their boobs look perfect but when they are talking like a 5th grader its a turn off.

[Anonymous No.24053540]

>>24051952

[Anonymous No.24053635]

> yes. Women have been selling it since Adam and Eve read a Bible some time

Where is this going?
> read about the fall of Rome

[Anonymous No.24053801]

>>24050489
reminds me of the time I turned 18. My Uncles bought me a subscription to playboy, a carton of Marlboro and $100 bucks in lotto scratchers. back in 1998, windows 95 edition. Clearly they had good intentions.

[Anonymous No.24053844]

>>24051067
There are tons of wealthy men that use escorts. Access to sex is difficult for everyone that lacks the ability/confidence to game women.

[Anonymous No.24054153]

>>24053844
>lacks the ability/confidence to game women
You forget the biggest reason: time.

Especially if you're talking about wealthy men. Time and energy. Sex is glorified masturbation anyway. At some point you not having to hassle will be worth more than money.

Only wealthy people who "game" are those who simply enjoy the process ie the challenges and adventures. Those who have other hobbies simply can't be arsed.

>>24050715
this

[Anonymous No.24054282]

>>24050804
>This is why their hivemind "sisterhood" shames women for being "too easy", or for not being insufferable feminists like the rest.
That's only half true. Feminism actually seeks to abolish any last vestiges of decency by propagating sexual liberty and fighting "slut shaming", which in fact is an evolutionary adaptation to women having to keep their legs closed or risk exile (death).

[Anonymous No.24054429]

I am 26 years old and I never even kissed a girl

[Anonymous No.24054490]

>>24054429
Why, friend?

[Anonymous No.24054565]

>>24054490
I don't know.
Probably because I'm incapable of flirting/showing sexual interest towards women without feeling as if I'm being extremely rude to them

[Anonymous No.24054639]

>>24054565
Damn, that hits close. Sensitive kid raised by a single mom?

That's not an excuse tho. There's ways around it, such as figuring out if someone's interested eg by hanging out with them enough.

That feeling of guilt is a result of you believing you have no place in the world. It'll go away through general life experience and attaining goals.

[Anonymous No.24054670]

>>24053540
nice. saved.

[Anonymous No.24054676]

>>24054565
This is intentional. It's known as a shit test. Shame the betas until they don't even try any longer. Anyone that 'passes', a female doesn't want anything to do with.

Even taking them is a sign of weaness to a female, and they abhor such.

[Anonymous No.24054706]

>>24053540
This is truth.
I look like an alpha to outsiders but am a beta in mindset likely because I withdrew from society and spend 16 hours a day on fringe websites
I have a gf and could have a harem and she wouldn't leave. Her sister has tried to have sex with me when her sister had a beta boyfriend. I see everything happening in the pic in my own experiences. If I was actually an alpha it would be rediculously easy to reproduce.
Sex doesn't really interest me anyway and I'm glad because muh sex being an unironic goal is like being a pothead whose main goal is to get high
It's for people with low iq.
Betas will have their day like they always do because the so called "betas" are just the higher iq parts of society. Yes "alphas" have their glory but betas work on longer time horizons so they always come out on top.

[Anonymous No.24054777]

>>24054639
>Sensitive kid raised by a single mom?
Not a single mom, but probably raised a bit too sheltered yeah. Got the embarrassing "Most Polite" back in school, twice.
>There's ways around it, such as figuring out if someone's interested eg by hanging out with them enough.
I am around people and girls fairly often, not once did I experience someone looking me more than a mere acquaintance/friend
>That feeling of guilt is a result of you believing you have no place in the world. You're probably right here, although I wouldn't say it's guilt.
I don't feel guilty, just out of place

[Anonymous No.24054778]

>>24054706
>Yes "alphas" have their glory but betas work on longer time horizons so they always come out on top.
You sure bout that, bud? Ever heard of dysgenic breeding?

[Anonymous No.24054861]

I fucked pic related for 40€, money well spent i say

[Anonymous No.24054872]

>>24054777
>I don't feel guilty, just out of place
The belief that any approach from you would be rude, is what feeling guilty is.

>I am around people and girls fairly often
No I mean more like one on one with girls you're attracted to.

It's hard for me to give advice because for me the saving grace happened to be Tinder. I'm attractive so I got easy matches and plenty opportunities to learn through trial and error. Basically work on your looks to get the same chance.

I've only ever approached one girl who I knew for a longer time. It went to shit, lol.

[Anonymous No.24054968]

What is the probability that these kinds of discussions are created by some sort of highly financed think tank and posted here to be proliferated throughout the internet?

I'm not entirely convinced OP is starting an organic discussion about a topic that just happened to be on his mind. OP, what was the impetus of your asking this?

[Anonymous No.24055120]

>>24054778
Wow that's scary. It's definitely happening too... In the US most university programs have become a complete joke. My gf is in a respected university program and I overheard the classes and the content is literal dogshit. It's filled with minorities who speak ebonics and don't even understand basic grammer.
What is the counter to this? It's obvious so called alphas do not run the world behind the scenes it must be a group of intelligent men.. what is their plan?
Or have their plans been thwarted by the alliance of feminists and "alpha" men.

[Anonymous No.24055252]

But the question is why do women's breeding traits seek physical traits instead of intelligence?
Is it due to most of the population experiencing battle, war, or some sort of tribal violence throughout evolutionary history ?

[Anonymous No.24055369]

>>24054861
Greece?

[Anonymous No.24055471]

>>24055369
yeap, how did you know?

[Anonymous No.24055555]

>>24055120
There's nobody behind it. It's just a big process with billions of small parts and interactions. There's mechanization making human labor irrelevant, dysgenic breeding patterns, uncontrolled immigration, the globalization of economy and culture as a result. All of it entails a gradual movement towards communism of subsidized general population and an isolated elite living in gated communities. Not necessarily a dystopian hellhole, but the reproduction of the general population will certainly be limited at some point.

>>24055252
Women do seek intelligence. But the problem with IQ is that modern society doesn't favor their reproduction. They're pushed into pursuing high education and careers, neither of which leaves them with any chance for reproduction. It's taking a greater toll from high IQ women since the reproductive window is smaller for them.

In addition intelligent people are less impulsive, meaning no unexpected babies, no babies out of wedlock, no babies during economic depressions, no babies without a stable life (house, income, etc). None of this applies to low IQ populations. And the welfare state keeps on feeding everyone, cannibalizing on the decreasing population of the intelligent...

[Anonymous No.24055607]

>>24055252

They seek intelligence by proxy through a men's wealth and status, which are largely products of intelligence and guile

[Anonymous No.24055629]

>>24055471
how is so cheap

would easily do it for 40 euros

[Anonymous No.24055663]

>>24054872
bro Im decent looking 7-8, gym abs and everything but no experience with women, also have professional photos but never used tinder

seriously tinder is gonna help? any advice on what you did to learn?

thanks

[Anonymous No.24055717]

>>24055471
Blonde, cheap, beaches narrows it down. Good taste my fren I would love to visit, do they like burgers?

[Anonymous No.24055792]

>>24054706
chad can become brad and a basedboy can become troy in the snap of a minute, stay vigilant fren

[Anonymous No.24055897]

>>24055663
>never used tinder
fucking start

>any advice on what you did to learn?
Nothing I could teach anyone. Just how to be confident, comfortable and flirtatious around women. I'm nothing special but just 5 years ago I was legitimately sure I would never have sex in my life.

[Anonymous No.24056015]

>>24055629
Probably they found that this price brings the maximum amount of income, also i should have mentioned that 40€ is the starting price for 20 mins and it goes up from that
>>24055717
Brothels here are under apartheid, if you are black or brown you cant enter, if you are white but foreigner you will need a greek guy to vouch for you the first times before they start recognising you

[Anonymous No.24056026]

>>24054872
>>24055897
Don't you need at least an instagram account or whatever in order for girls to check on Tinder?
I don't have a single picture of myself from the past 6-7 years that isn't a family photo

[Anonymous No.24056178]

>>24051952
>womens best bet is to try and settle down with a man who views puss with scarcity
western woman are so delusional and egotistical that they will "hold out" until they're 50+ years old and then die of depression, waiting for chad, before they even let a repulsive beta faggot look at them. there was a story of a 30 year old nurse who KILLED herself because she couldn't get a chad. she KILLED HERSELF instead of settling.
>never been more abudnant
yea for a very small amount of men. i used to get pussy all the time in my late teens early 20s but i failed to transition to adulthood with a big boy job and i became a fucking loser currently at 29. I haven't had sex in 2 years and i used to have sex almost every weekend with a rotating stable of girls with girls coming into and out of the stable constantly. my entire 20s was just partying and fucking sluts upstairs every weekend for years. now im a skilless loser with a receding hairline and shame at being shut out SOLELY because i couldn't secure a white collar job

[Anonymous No.24056203]

>>24056026
No, instagram isn't necessary.

Get pics. Find someone else to take them.

[Anonymous No.24056211]

>>24056015
stop shilling your lame, no ass-having, wrinkling curdled milk skinned rat

[Anonymous No.24056512]

>>24056211
no idea what any of this means

[Anonymous No.24056530]

>>24050169
it ends with more race mixing which is a good thing

[Anonymous No.24057326]

>>24055792
I see living a life through self actualization much more fulfilling than any other life. No matter what one may think I simply cannot be influenced on that decision. I will achieve this through learning all that I can at this young age.
>>24055555
Yeah it doesn't sound that bad. Already it's sort of occuring anyway. I think many just fear that they will be locked in the cage with the degenerates instead of making it to the "gated" areas.
They have to realize wealthy and successful people will let you in are you are a valuable person. It is the deplorables they want to keep out mostly to protect their children.
The main problem I see with this society is the education. Even now we are at risk of entering a dark age of knowledge.

[Anonymous No.24057452]

>>24056026
Don't bother with tinder. It's just going to make you feel bad about yourself when there's no need to.
Think about it like this you are going against turbo normie Chad's who know exactly what to say to appease the sluts. Now think there are 100s of them mixed in with your tiny message.
These apps are not worth the time or stress. Either pay a prostitute which I don't recommend but I think it is more honorable than going to tinder. Or start to practice your real life social skills.
In real life if you approach a woman you will likely be the only one of the day and this stand a much better chance at success than having a message in an app mixed in with hundreds of others.
Yes the message on the app is way easier but you will have better chances in real life even if you spill your spaghetti everywhere in the first minute. Just aim for a mid range girl to start and work from there

[Anonymous No.24057527]

>>24052610
I mean it somewhat makes sense to me. Women rarely understand market dynamics and something as simple as supply and demand let alone other economic factors for determining their worth sexually and for relationships. These are the same types of people that get upset when male athletes get paid more than female athletes and think that's somehow related to sexism... and not the 50 other reasons why men sports teams get paid more sometimes.

[Anonymous No.24057998]

is that a cliff on her back?

[Anonymous No.24058211]

>>24050457
>> yes prostitution should be legalized just like child pron, right anon?

[Anonymous No.24058599]

>>24050169
It has not much to do with ideology, and more to do with the fact that in our era women are integrated into the labor force. Thus they don't have to rely on a man in order to survive, but even more, they can't properly play the housewife, even if they wanted to. Indeed, having a proper family life as a women is complecated is the women is a wage worker.

[Anonymous No.24058944]

>>24056512
it means he is a race mixer and only want niggers

[Anonymous No.24059172]

>>24056530
what type of women did you find?

Having no experience I was thinking of getting maybe 5-6 just to make some and then fuck some hotter women

Did you do dates or straight to your apartment?

[Anonymous No.24059489]

>>24050489
The conservative backlash will continue to grow in numbers and reach fanatic extremes more often. The conditioned slaves of short term gratification are exactly like cancer and will be treated as such. You can't keep destroying everything good while pretending you're the good guys. That you deserve any sympathy and forgiveness at all is a hard sell.