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23974555 No.23974555 [Reply] [Original]

>everything is mooning
>except for BAT

>yfw you realize this shitcoin is going to miss ANOTHER golden bull run

holy fuck LMAO how JUST'd can this piece of shit possibly get?

>> No.23974613

>>23974555
Why'd it have to be trips. Nothing personal, but fuck you.

>> No.23974750
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>>23974613
because it's a sign from God Himself that this dumbass browser plug-in token is going to 0

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>>23974555
Spyware , only cucks use

>it's an ad-driven browser that panders to advertising agencies with a blockchain-redistribution scheme while pretending to be ethical by hardcoding deprecated web extensions into it's core (https everywhere & adblock plus)

>and contains a ledger system that measures user attention aggregate to accurately reward publishers.
https://basicattentiontoken.org/about/

>The Brave browser knows where users spend their time, making it the perfect tool to calculate and reward publishers with BATs.
https://basicattentiontoken.org/

https://spyware.neocities.org/articles/brave.html
https://hub.packtpub.com/brave-privacy-browser-has-a-backdoor-to-remotely-inject-headers-in-http-requests-hackernews/
https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/news/security/facebook-twitter-trackers-whitelisted-by-brave-browser/
>>/g/thread/S69748437

>the data is stored in-browser
https://twitter.com/tomscott/status/1085238644926005248
https://bitcoinist.com/brave-browser-donations-not-optional/
https://mobile.twitter.com/tomscott/status/1076160882873380870
https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=18734999
https://np.reddit.com/r/privacy/comments/ap9149/brave_privacy_browser_has_a_backdoor_to_remotely/eg6vckb/

>uses open source, fucks over anyone who forks from them...
https://decrypt.co/35146/brave-forces-rival-browser-braver-change-name

>The browser sees everything you do, including actions to stop that annoying phenomenon of retargeting where an ad chases you around the Web, often for something you just bought or decided not to buy. We keep user data out of our cloud Brave Vault by default.
https://brave.com/blogpost_1.html

>Brave has been redirecting searches to crypto companies to affiliate links that give it a commission.
https://decrypt.co/31522/crypto-brave-browser-redirect

>> No.23975029

have they fixed the exploit potentially compromising 20.5m users?

>> No.23975383

even if it goes somewhere there are tons of people with 500k+ tokens, they wont hold past $2. you can do better than a 10x.

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>>23975003
based schizo

>>23975029
no, there's still an exploit in the browser.

>>23975383
good point. price is going nowhere fast

>> No.23975452

>>23974555
Happy I sold all my BAT for XRP when they were trading at the same price

>> No.23975456

Nobody f*cking cares about shit token #20324! Stop making these threads. Maybe we can finally take back the board and talk about actual business besides the occasional bitcoin thread.

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>>23974555
i am sure at this point some people in these BAT threads recognize me for saying this...

THIS IS YOUR THREADLY REMINDER BAT HAS LITERALLY NO REASON TO EXIST. Braves original claim was BTC doesn't work with their browser because slow/fees. So instead of using, idk, LTC,BCH,DASH (insert favorite shitcoin) they decided to make BAT so they could make more money.

deserve what get if you actually hold a bag of this absolute shit coin. the concept of brave was great (private browser with crypto purchasing power built in) but ultimately it was was corrupted by pure greed.

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BAT is such an absolute dogshit coin, you'll make more shorting it than you ever will holding it. All BATards are better off searching for couch money.

>> No.23975783

I lost soooooo much money by repeatedly buying up BAT the whole way down.
Was convinced it actually had a future, a team that cared, all that shit.
I ended up just throwing it all on AAVE and similar sites for free interest because it's absolutely useless trash otherwise

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>>23975783
any defense of BAT at this point is pure, unbridled cope

we need to collectively start threatening to report Eich to the SEC or something, otherwise he's just going to keep tweeting about COVID and pretend he never created a multi-million dollar scam

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WHY DOESNT THE MARKET SPECULATE ON BAT?
A FUCKING JSON PARSER IS WORTH 5 BILLION DOLLARS

>> No.23976548

>>23976178
I can't believe I went for BAT of all the crypto's out there.
What a shitty choice I made.

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People are closer to Basic attention token than even bitcoin and they don’t even know it.
It’s in the browsers of people who don’t even use crypto yet.
You all look at spacex take off.
You can look at the same trajectory by looking into the adoption of UNI under the hood. Look under the hood of BAT and brave. It’s a rocket ship in blue skies.

>> No.23976912

>>23976723
I don't understand what you mean
It's doing nothing but constantly die a slow miserable death

>> No.23976959
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23976959

it's tragic that we've waited all this time for the next golden bull run, and now that it's finally here, BAT is at a lower price than it was in 2017 and the most you could hope for is like a rise to 50 cents

can't think of a more pathetic hold in all of crypto.

>> No.23976984

>>23974555
i thought BAT was a $0.25 stabletoken?

>> No.23977104

>>23976959
100% this
Trusting in BAT was a massive, massive mistake.
I wish I could go back.

>> No.23977336

What death? No death of this coin it’s massive. I think u mean bitcoin has increased in price.

>> No.23977561

>>23976959
"COVIDS NOT REAL AND GAYS SHOULDNT BE HAPPY. OH WAIT I TAKE THAT BACK BECAUSE PEOPLE ARE ANGRY AT ME."

imagine not sticking to your convictions because of other peoples opinions. only a matter of time before he gives up on his own browser after others make better tipping systems than he does.

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23977947

The absolute state of BAT right now.

>> No.23978017

>>23977947
He needs help it’s not funny u r a meanie

>> No.23978045

>>23978017
He seems fine. He already knows BAT will get bought out by Amazon soon.

>> No.23978126

>>23977947
there are multiple levels to this cope, however the one that jumps out highest is the idea eich is secretly partnering with amazon.
early on in brave launch, he had reputable vc's lining up to take a piece, being a turboautist he refused them all and thus wound up with no meaningful partners and no one to grease the skids on a possible future m/a acquisition.
in retrospect, eich should've been confined to engineer status only and a qualified ceo should've come in.
that could still happen if someone would be able to explain it to the retard using moon language.

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>>23977947
sad to see this shit. People have been posting this kind of cope for the last 3+ years. I used to think the team was suppressing the price. Now I think they might be propping it up. How the fuck hasn't this shitcoin gone to 0 yet?

>> No.23978278

>>23975383
BAT might be the single most evenly distributed coin

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>>23978278
its really not, and those top wallets have been bag holding for almost two years now. they're at a massive loss and probably looking to offload as soon as a significant btc pump happens.

>> No.23979282

Just lol at all this FUD. 20.5m users would put braves valuation at close to $2-5B. They have extremely high ARPU's and there are more and more revenue generating products being developed. Twitter,pinterest,snap etc all had similar growth trajectories. Mass marketing will begin soon. Price might lag for a bit, but are potentially writing off a 100x because they didnt get it in the timeframe they hoped for.

>> No.23979322

>>23975003
>1 fud by this ID
every time

>> No.23979394

>>23979282
investing in BAT is not investing in Brave.
Eich has more enemies in the space than friends, and they are all learning from his mistakes preparing to implement their own tipping systems. Reddit already did because they don't want to be associated with an anti-LGBT, COVID denier. people are dying, his tweets offend a lot of people.

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>>23974555
Fuck you guys I have 8k BAT. Don't shit on my coin it's going to moon god damnit!

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>>23979282
>Just lol at all this FUD

It's really not even FUD at this point, it's just facts. BAT has pathetic price action and holding it through a bullrun is a huge, massive fucking opportunity cost.

They don't market BAT, they don't care about its price, it's a DOA ERC-20 token with little purpose and no demand.

>it-it'll go up eventually

is not a strong argument

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>>23974555
Pffffft what is this thread, a bunch of fudders tugging each others dicks?

If you look at BAT and see a token that hasn't done shit since 2017 and leave your analysis there, then fine. Non-retards would instead ask: what has Brave/Eich done since then to justify an increase? And the answer would appropriately be, not much, hence where we are now. Now take stock of Brave's (large and continuing) growth trends and what actually cool and useful shit is in the 2021 pipeline, hint: check out Github, and ask yourself where the token will be in 2022. If you still think the answer is "under a dollar", congrats, you win biggest retard on /biz/ award.

Every fudder here gets what they deserve.

>> No.23979635

^ Dude, I own a shitload of BAT. More than you I would bet
This coin is going nowhere. It's also being punished by extreme Ethereum fees so has zero purpose right now because those fees will be even greater than any "BAT tip" you send.
BAT IS FUCKING FINISHED

>> No.23979651

>>23979465
At what point have you ever seen a companies valuation go down as they grew 138% that year? Companies like brave would run funding round after funding rounds with valuations that were increasingly higher until they got to the point they are now. BAT and Brave are two sides of the same coin. The tokens are becoming increasingly scarce. To think its going to be $.20 now and forever is just plain retarded.

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>>23979635
Great. Promise me you'll sell that *shitload* at .50? I implore you.

>> No.23980214

>>23979505
They cannot see the bigger picture. You don't have to look very far to see that brave is growing into one of the worlds next largest startups. Brave is following a trajectory similar to twitter, but the difference is Brave has much more valuable users, and has, and will have a much wider range of products. It's one thing to be unaware, but its entirely different to be outright spreading FUD. Brave/BAT is going to continue to grow regardless of what I or anyone says in here. What it really comes down to though is im urging people to seize an opportunity while the people spreading FUD are hoping to see others fail. They should spend their energy elsewhere on the catalog if they are concerned about peoples well being, because theres hundreds of legitimate scams.

>> No.23980275

BAT will never moon
but low IQ people think it wil

>> No.23980300

>>23980214
Can you explain it's downright horrendous performance to date?

>> No.23980340

bat released their product
there is nothing to speculate on
the trick in crypto is never releasing an actual product

>> No.23980632

So what do the rest of you holding a considerable amount of BAT plan to do?

>> No.23980697

HOW DID IT ALL GO SO WRONG FOR BAT

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>>23980300
>>23980632
>>23980697
You didn't engage with my original argument and now you're literally just shitposting, faggot.

>> No.23980884

>>23980632
I have 531k BAT, and im doing what any rational person would do, which is being patient. Can't believe I even need to explain this to anyone.

>> No.23981475

>>23974555
It's horizontally volatile. It's a trader token not a holding one and a fantastic one at that

>> No.23981601
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>>23980632
I swing and increase my stack or put the profits towards BTC or stonks for free. Its one of the most reliable swings you'll ever find.

Other than that, I hold and relax like anyone with common sense would do lad.

>> No.23981626

>>23981601
Based

>> No.23981706

>>23979505
investing in bat is not investing in brave
monthly payouts, tips, and all browser wallet bat is done off chain
theyve said multiple times they want to onboard other cryptos for payouts and tips
a pathetically small number of users are bothering with ads
even fewer or dealing with the uphold nonsense
basically none of have redeemed TAP rewards with their BA
eth gas fees are stopping anyone from "cashing out", and gas fees were the main reason they chose eth over btc
the browser itself is so shoddy the subreddits and telegrams have devolved into helpdesks for payout issues and other problems
they pissed off a ton of youtube users with their original tip holding policy which showed how arrogant they were as they simply assumed everyone would use brave and sign up eventually
they pissed off a large amount of crypto holders by not utilizing BAT for anything and using the funds they received to keep brave going
eich is hated by 90% of the internet in general due to personal ridiculousness that he spouts daily on twitter
facebook, twitter, and twitch are watching this all play out and learning from braves mistakes, once crypto hype picks up they will implement their own tip systems rendering brave useless
most people will never download a new browser and will use the one that comes on their phone. even if Brave gets themselves to be the default browser on 30% of mobile devices there won't be enough people using the platform to make BAT a widely accepted currency for tipping, the other 70% will use site specific tipping and reward systems like reddit has already made
building a search engine has nothing to do with BAT
IF they get around to building a vpn youll most likely be able to pay for it in ETH and BAT payouts won't be enough to pay for it, most people who care will stick to their other vpn services
IF theres a partnership with apple theyll be forced to accept other cryptos as tips since a major american company would never allow itself to be tied down

>> No.23981773

>>23981601
The man himself; based BAT brap poster

>> No.23981894

>>23981706
and technically the real price of BAT is much lower than shown on exchanges since in the official telegram its 60% off if you send them ETH, there are people sending them ETH, sending it to their wallets, and selling it for more ETH right now. if youre buying from uniswap or others youre a moron and overpaying by over 50%. i dont really know what that means but its not good for the price of the token.

>> No.23981945

>>23981894
this is the dumbest shit i have ever heard

>> No.23982038
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>>23981945
t.me/BATProjectOfficial
its the pinned message
please explain yourself

>> No.23982046

Where the fuck is all this fud coming from in the last two weeks? Holy shit.

>> No.23982086

>>23982046
its always been here, just not well explained, and more people are starting to wake up to the fact that its really not fud, there are fundamental issues with the token that make it a bad investment, and unlike old /biz/ were trying to help others instead of scam them

>> No.23982095

>>23982038
Holy fuck mate you have to be kidding. That's a fucking scam. Am I retarded or are all you fucks off your heads.

>> No.23982101

>>23982038
lol dude this is a fake channel and thats a scam trying to get you to send eth. you are literally fucking retarded.

>> No.23982126

>>23982095
no its just him

>> No.23982234

Around 10% of top ten companies actually lasted the dot com boom.

Your shitcoins may have their hay day, but BAT will be the only one here in 20 years.

>> No.23982360

>>23975452
>i traded poop for shit

>> No.23982392

>>23982046
It has picked up everywhere. It seems like a concentrated effort. Disingenuous rather than genuine, yet some people can't see right through it for what it is. Pretty bullish. Its like they know this is going to go on an xrp tier face ripping run and they are trying to pull out all the tricks they can, but its not going to work. Brave will be going to mass market very soon, and the clock is ticking.

>> No.23982438

>>23981706
nobody has ever countered any of this "fud"

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>people who actually buy BAT

>> No.23982460

>>23982095
>>23982101
thats even worse then, theyre letting them run a channel that looks more legitimate than their own

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>>23981475
Based.

>>23981773
Sup lad, hope you're having a good day.

>>23982038
I always thought it was normies and desperate brainlets who fall for these scams, but apparently Anons are getting licked too. Jesus, lad thats the most obvious scam I've seen outside of those botted YouTube live feeds.

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>>23982046
hmm I don't know dude, might have something to do with the price of BAT going down the gutter and the entire BAT project seemingly stalling out and dying

BAT is hitting ATL's in sats and its USD value isn't far behind. Absolutely pathetic for a project that is apparently onboarding millions of users. A CEO would be fired so fast his head would spin if BAT were actual shares of Brave, luckily for Brendan they're playing with house money (that was provided by US, the fucking dopes that were tricked into buying BAT). The hype in Brave/BAT is puttering out too. Definitely going to see those DAU/MAU numbers drop now that the referral program is winding down.

People/investors are rightfully upset with the project. 2020 has been a pathetic showing all around from both Brave and BAT.

>> No.23982806

You have Instagram just throwing a shop and a tv in your face.
Brave has a button to switch on and off ads (paying YOU) .
which one is moving in the right direction?!!

>> No.23982875

>>23982644
exactly
I'm bleeding btc holding bat while bat goes below 2018 prices

>> No.23982938

>>23981706
I don't mean to sound off-topic when I draw this comparison, but you have a very reddit way of fudding. Kind of like when someone types out two dozen reasons why Drumpf is literally Hitler so as to make their argument seem almost unassailable by the sheer volume of alleged sin, and yet upon closer inspection, almost none of the individual points stand up to scrutiny, or if in fact true, actually *mattering*. Alternatively this strategy can also win simply by requiring significant investment on your opponent's behalf to break down the pile of half-truths and bullshit. It's the sort of argumentation

>Brave/Eich hated by "90% of internet"/youtubers/crypto holders
Source
>ETH gas fees prevent cashing out
Source
>"shoddy" browser somehow still seeing huge MoM user gains
Oh I know this source, your rectum

>> No.23983069

>>23982938
if you involved yourself with other website than 4chan youd already know these things. having to call someone a redditor and only asking for a source isnt a counter argument to anything i said.

>> No.23983092

I love how “and the usd price is too”
Usd Price is not bad

>> No.23983350

>>23983069
So you're not going to give sources? I only asked for two, and the sources for each argument should have fairly concrete and ready answers which is partly why I selected them. Unlike you I'm trying to argue in good faith which is, again, why I didn't use assburger's wall of text and refuse to show any work.

Again, evidence the people you cited hate Brave/Eich/BAT, and evidence that ETH gas fees are prohibitively costly for Brave's model?

>> No.23983500

>>23983350
again, if you used any other website than 4chan youd see it all over the place. Eichs wiki states he is known for his anti-lgbt donations. if you dont live under a rock you know the entire world hates people claiming covid isnt a problem. if you used BAT at all youd know the gas prices are too high for it to function right now. im not going to waste time grabbing screenshots from all over the web to prove basic information, you can do that yourself, or as everyone says do your own research. people who do so will know im right on all points.

you arent trying to argue in good faith, youre trying to get people to waste their money on one of the worst investments in crypto short of scams.

>> No.23983554

>>23983500
Thankfully everyone can see this exchange, retard.

>> No.23983787

>>23983500
>im right on all points

Im glad this is an open forum where everyone can see that you are wrong.

>> No.23983837

>>23974555
There has never been another project in the history of crypto that was so completely and utterly ruined by KYC.

>> No.23983859

when the fuck are they adding a different option to export these shit coins to

>> No.23984036

>>23983500
You will never be a woman.

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>>23982038
Post your hand you dumb fucking Pajeet. You do not deserve the gains that BBBB (Based Big Brain Brendan) will deliver.

>> No.23985818

I just bought more a few days ago. Have fun listening to the FUD, simps.

>> No.23986040

BAT marines = next LINK marines

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