/biz/ - Business & Finance

[Anonymous No.23873237]

Any other looksmaxxers here?

Once RSR moons I’m gonna get Lefort + BSSO with Arnett + Gunson and then visit taban for almond eye surgery

Maybe genio + chin wing too

[Anonymous No.23873269]

>>23873237
LINK mogs RSR. Surgery won't fix your incel soul.

[Anonymous No.23873284]

>>23873237
No, just enough money for a quiet place far away.

[Anonymous No.23873299]

>>23873269
cope

Bimax can ascend you hard

[Anonymous No.23873329]

>>23873237
Cringe

[Anonymous No.23873347]

>>23873237

[Anonymous No.23873363]

sliding genio posibly.

Lefort + BSSO really? you do know whats involved, they are serious surgeries, i mean how f'ed is your face to want them??

hardly make a difference with women unless youre realy f ed up

[Anonymous No.23873398]

>>23873237
>cosmetic surgery
Female-tier, honestly. It'll suck always knowing that beneath that veneer of contorted bone held together with glue, screws and staples is the genetic blueprint for an incel.

[Anonymous No.23873413]

>>23873237
>tfw pretty boy

[Anonymous No.23873442]

>>23873299
Have fun popping out weak chinned sons. They will grow up bitter and clench their malformed teeth with all the power in their tiny little jaw and curse your name the same way you curse your dad's trash genes. Just accept yourself. Work out and fix what you can actually fix.

You can cheat the facecel, but you will never outrun the mindcel.

[Anonymous No.23873454]

>>23873398
>Female-tier, honestly.
Well yes but also no, religion is dead, men aren’t the breadwinners anymore. And men can’t beat women either.

The only incentive a woman has to be faithful is if the guy is attractive

>>23873329
Cope. Lefort can turn incel into chad

[Anonymous No.23873465]

>>23873237
i'm getting cock implants, aiming for 9 inches

[Anonymous No.23873474]

if you have an insecurity with one of your features surgery can fix inner issues (read psycho cybernetics).

But if your going to town on your face just to get chicks its not going to make a difference, you wont be congruent unless youre allready confident which you maybe then fine.

Id say youll intrigue a women for about 2 minutes more before she catches a glimpse if youre not congruent

[Anonymous No.23873483]

>>23873442
>Have fun popping out weak chinned sons. They will grow up bitter and clench their malformed teeth with all the power in their tiny little jaw and curse your name the same way you curse your dad's trash genes.


Jaw is 100% environment

There’s no genetic code for a recessed maxilla.

[Anonymous No.23873503]

>>23873237
We're moneymaxxers around here, fuck off to /r9k/ autistic NEET faggot

[Anonymous No.23873504]

if you do all this bullshit to your face make sure you get a wife who has had a lot of surgery too. don't inject your naturally ugly genes into a beautiful woman through deception.

[Anonymous No.23873509]

>>23873474
Sure thing bro.

Chad can get away with anything. He always wins.

Meeks killed, gangbanged, and still got out of prison and made millions while fucking a billionaire heiress. Most brutal part is that he is still alive and well.

Meeks did crimes worthy of 25+ years but his looks saved him from prison. Meeks is now rich, famous, and successful....far more than anyone here

[Anonymous No.23873521]

>>23873237
The back of my skull is straight. Is that an alpha skull or a beta skull?

[Anonymous No.23873558]

>>23873521
Warrior skull, high T trait

How’s your browridge?

[Anonymous No.23873564]

>>23873509
I know it's customary in r*ddit to press enter after every sentence, but this isn't r*ddit. Go back. NGMI

[Anonymous No.23873577]

>>23873509
It’s not just looks anon, it’s confidence and arrogance from a lifetime of winning with women, the incel who suddenly gets surgery and looks good will still struggle, there’s plenty of chads that aren’t better then average looking that still slay women

[Anonymous No.23873590]

Maxxing out your looks is the best investment. Everything becomes easy when you look good.

[Anonymous No.23873602]

>>23873558
I have a big one but my jaw isn't chiseled. what mean? Also my skull is larger at the front and shrinks as it goes to the back ( round)

[Anonymous No.23873620]

>>23873509
i kind of agree with you ill be getting abit of genio myself, but i would say take i easy over time bro.

do you really need the lefort????

[Anonymous No.23873637]

>>23873509
might get mandibulars too, but i wont be cracking my skull in 6 places and staying in hospital for 2 weeks etc

[Anonymous No.23873640]

>>23873577
>there’s plenty of chads that aren’t better then average looking that still slay women

Lol no

guys who have a few lays from partying can be incel too

I know so many girls who have told me "I have slept with guys that i had no attraction to through a combination of alcohol and coercion ( or me feeling like i couldn't say no) and it always made me feel bad. Always."


basically if you have never had mutually consenting sober sex with a girl, youre incel.

you can NOT tempt the girl with either money or status. you have to only be judged by looks

[Anonymous No.23873647]

>>23873237
Lookism seems pretty cancerous in general. There's really nothing you can do to change your facial features in regards whatever animal magnetism aspects are measured and categorized. Plastic surgery won't help you long term and is just part of the globohomo consumerism racket to try and find a means of constantly updating the human body itself rather than just our possessions. Continue to get /fit/, don't eat garbage every day, and try to find someone to socialize with irl so that you learn to manage a conversation.

[Anonymous No.23873650]

>>23873509
are you a virgin? how do you behave infront of girls? cause if all you do is change your looks but you're still an autistic, shy faggot then it's not gonna work bud.

[Anonymous No.23873673]

>>23873620
If you’re actually recessed, genio won’t fix your issue, just mask it

Lefort + CCW basically fixes everything

[Anonymous No.23873691]

>>23873650
I’m incredibly autistic but have had 30 slays from dating apps + sometimes a girl will approach me at a bar and I fuck her that way too

[Anonymous No.23873708]

>>23873640
Ah yeah looks are all that matters? Tell that to a celebrity or someone with very high status in your city who happens to also be ugly, yet still with a dime. Status is number 1, you sound like a kissless incel . I’m above average looks, fit and used to sell dope, the sloots I got being known as the dope guy in my City are so so much hotter to the ones I got simply being just another above average looking guy

[Anonymous No.23873722]

>>23873673
i dont have any issues, would just like my chin slightly more pronounced, ive had a friend thats done it it looked great.
To go get lefort and double jaw is way overpriced for what i need

[Anonymous No.23873730]

>>23873673
im guessing you must have a very recessed jaw chin to want to get that.

[Anonymous No.23873736]

>>23873691
oh i thought you were one of those incels that were desperate for an actual relationship with a quality woman. if banging bar whores is your thing then i completely retract what i said.

[Anonymous No.23873738]

>>23873708

I've enough to pay for one whore a week; Saturday evening, that'd be good. Maybe I'll end up doing it. But I know that some men can get the same for free, and with love to boot.

incel= not being able to get sex based on mutual physical attraction

if thats true for you you are an incel

escortcel = incel

ugly guy who gets pitysex from to time to time = incel

beta provider in a sexless marriage = incel


this is why lms theory is also wrong. its not looks, money and status what seperates an incel from a slayer..its looks and status alone. money has no impact on mutual attraction. women are attracted to the money, not the person. a ugly poor incel who wakes up one day and wins the lottery is still incel even though he is now able to pay hookers/attract golddiggers/women who are ready to "settle down"..

[Anonymous No.23873745]

can we see a pic of how bad you look?

[Anonymous No.23873759]

>>23873736
based

[Anonymous No.23873784]

>>23873736
Jfl

All women are whores bro

Enjoy your fantasies.

[Anonymous No.23873798]

In invisalign right now as I wait for my BSSO+ genio within the next year. Depending on your bite, insurance will cover your surgeries. In my case, they are intentionally pulling my lower teeth backward in order to create greater space for them to pull my lower jaw forward.

[Anonymous No.23873812]

>>23873745
I’ve been rated mid to high tier normie on PSL but I want to ascend to chadlite with RTT + Bimax

[Anonymous No.23873877]

>>23873738
I don’t disagree with this, in fact you’ve a got it figured out providing you realise status is #1, money can be used to increase status but I know plenty of guys with lambos who could never get real sex, only a duty fuck. I’ve known guys who’re what I would say ugly, who still have very attractive women with options chasing them while the guy is in prison, visiting every week for years until they get out. Simply because the guy is exciting and high status in the area. I’ve seen it first hand, when I was younger I thought it was all looks also . Though as I’ve aged I see that it’s status, the same reason a guy goes to a bar, knows people there, is known in the area, knows the staff, gets served straight away at the bar, security acknowledges him, had a masculine frame . Vs a very attractive guy, which would still have value but if he’s not charming, confident and masculine would still go mostly unnoticed. Being gifted looks through surgery the individual would not have had the decades of confidence/persona building by getting their way continuously, they’d be incongruent and people can pick that up quickly, there’s plenty of male models around that are absolute losers. I know many, like I said I sold dope

[Anonymous No.23873936]

good for you man, hopefully you look like zoolander one day

[Anonymous No.23873948]

>>23873877
Duh dude. The way you get girls is not by being afraid of them. Genuinely wanting to be the person people want around is as important as looks. Anyone else is coping.

You can fix looks. The introvert is usually not creative and math-minded. People focus on their bones to have some mathematical understanding of why they are failing at life. Yes, they absolutely matter. Having friends who love you and making people laugh and want to be around you is something you can never buy with money. It’s a natural trait, and the most important one in life.

[Anonymous No.23873951]

just dont put too much importance on whether a girl wants to sleep with you or not, that's hyper beta bro

[Anonymous No.23873982]

>>23873237
chink

[Anonymous No.23873986]

spending 20k upwards to just be accepted by females, i just dont think your there yet.

I think you should aim higher and stop thinking about girls. girls like guys that dont give a fuck bro.

[Anonymous No.23873995]

>>23873948
Literally this very principle is why Donald Trump is going insane. No one wants to be around him. Sure he has a beautiful wife and kid, allegedly money, and even has the status as president of the United States.

People voted him out. People didn’t like him. He can’t accept that his status was not enough to make people love him, despite him being a total jackass to everyone around him. We’re tired of him and that must be “fraud.” His wife stays around for the money. She doesn’t love him. His entire life is a fabricated Instagram photo to look happy.

[Anonymous No.23873996]

>>23873602
means ur gay ha

[Anonymous No.23874015]

>>23873558
The bridge of my brow falls behind my chin in my profile view if thats what you mean. I have hooded blue green eyes and full lips. I have a big spanish nose though and a somewhat weak chin. Im slim and overall good looking. My front view is near god-tier but my side is mediocre at best. Id post a picture but I really don't want to show what I look like for obvious reasons. There are a lot of weirdos here

[Anonymous No.23874040]

>>23873995
Yeah but trumps top5 most influential, powerful men on the planet now, even after his presidency he’ll still be the top .000001% of influential men. Hes gone so extreme on power and status that all other traits have suffered, something op will do if he sits there thinking his cheek bones are why he’s struggling and another surgery will change a thing

[Anonymous No.23874084]

It's over.

[Anonymous No.23874094]

>>23874040
Seems like a sad an alienating existence. Not coping. I wouldn’t trade places or lives with him, even if he is internationally known.

[Anonymous No.23874124]

mutilation psyop

[Anonymous No.23874243]

>>23873996
Fuck no way! I don't want to be gay.

[Anonymous No.23874281]

>>23873237
I would pound the lovely boipuccis of all 3
Oh, the squealing

[Anonymous No.23874303]

>>23873509
Yeah and Oprah Winfrey, a fat retarded female gorilla monster, is 500,000x more successful than your beloved prison inmate

[Anonymous No.23874318]

>>23873577
cooooooooope

[Anonymous No.23874324]

>>23873454
Fake, but cope whichever way you like

[Anonymous No.23874348]

>>23874303
The fuck is your point? They don't cancel each other out.
It's like you're a retard that ignores statistics.
"this ugly fuck made it therefore I will too".
It's like saying "1% of people that are deformed marry a supermodel (made up stat) therefore I will marry a supermodel too".
There is nothing more beta than copers

[Anonymous No.23874363]

>>23874303
>>23874348
Both wrong

Juggernaut law, any female = infinite SMV

[Anonymous No.23874542]

>>23874363
no idea what you're saying

[Anonymous No.23875761]

>>23873509
>le hot felon guy

[Anonymous No.23875807]

do I really share a board with this many chinlet incels? unironically just kill yourselves, you'll never make it anyway

[Anonymous No.23876035]

>>23874094
dilate

[Anonymous No.23876048]

>>23873237
Bro look up orthotropics. You can change your facial construction without surgery.

[Anonymous No.23876738]

>>23873237
cringe. just sold all my rsr

[Anonymous No.23876979]

>>23873284
This.
Just want a small place far far away, but with high speed internet though.

[Anonymous No.23877008]

>>23873442
You do understand he'll be popping out non-chinned sons even if he doesn't get surgery right?

[Anonymous No.23877076]

>>23876738
pretty much, RSR is the underage larping incel coin of choice.

[Anonymous No.23877128]

>>23876048
i just changed my tounge placement 5-6 years ago from watching a 1 hour video on youtube by an orthodontist

the whole hour pretty much boiled down to "teeth together, tounge at the roof of your mouth lips closed"

and then it exp[lained with case studies that your face literallly grows around your tounge placement or something. also said that the seat of a good looking face is the right tounge placement
also something about denmark having naturally more good looking people because they have tougher bread so naturally their tounge placement is more inlined with what its ment to be?

[Anonymous No.23877251]

>>23873577
You only get a lifetime of constant validation and approval by being attractive in the first place.

[Anonymous No.23877330]

>>23873995
Lol keep slurping MSM jew cum brainwashed idiot

[Anonymous No.23877623]

>>23873483
Really? What in the hell have me a good jaw then?

[Anonymous No.23877678]

>>23873237
9/10 chad face here, 5'10 king of manlets, used to think it was the dyel look so got /fit/, tried to understand why I wasn't getting laid so took psychedelics and started remembering without my ego how a shit ton of girls basically threw themselves at me and I was too autistic to see it.
Got a gf a few years ago and still together, still too autistic to break up with her and look for someone else, she's a roastie manipulator and I don't trust her to be loyal, meanwhile a guy I know looks like the incel from your pic and slays a different girl every week, the game is in your brain guys, if you've been cursed with turbo autism there is no point in looks.

[Anonymous No.23877686]

>>23873454
here's the telltale sign most of you looksmax copaholists are just average guys with self-inflicted problems (obesity, etc.)
when you have problems like the guys in pic you posted, it's not just cosmetic. for example tooth alignment issues result in jaw problems, TMJ disorders, even reverberates through the whole body. save for extremely rare cases you can't fix that through surgery, heck sometimes surgery is even impossible due to these health issues
so instead of saving meme pictures to your harddrive, get off your fat lazy ass and exercise. if you had real problems you wouldn't daydream about fake issues like "looking like a chad"

[Anonymous No.23877690]

>>23877678
Fuck. Had a mire today which isn't all that common but was too autsitic to do anything

[Anonymous No.23877692]

>>23877678
also been a coomer since I was 11 (now 28) and sex is super overrated, sure I've only had 1 gf and fucked a few hookers before, but all I want is a loyal low n count wife to breed and live off my linkies, but I know I can't find that since they automatically turn to whores if you're autistic and they stop respecting you.

[Anonymous No.23877694]

>>23873483
implying we know everything about our genetic code

[Anonymous No.23877714]

>>23873237
>>23873442
>>23873483
this guy gets it
feel free to blame the preservatives and fuck knows what other chemicals for chinlet based and countless other deformities and birth defects... another reason why chinks are quite hideous, all that processed sauce and flavouring shit... get a partner that actually gives a fuck about her body and the chemicals she cakes onto her face and into her DNA

[Anonymous No.23877722]

Thank God I look good so the only looksmaxxes I might do are minor
I already had my nasolabial folds filled but it was very little filler and didn't make much difference
In future I might get more filler and maybe a rhino (that's very risky though)

[Anonymous No.23877739]

>>23877690
It's legit the worst pain you can feel, a few years ago in uni, a super hot girl joined at the start of the year, didn't talk to her even if she made lots of eye contact, so once I was eating dinner alone in the cantine (uni restaurant i don't know the name in english) and she came in with 3 of her friends, sat with me at the table since I was alone, told her friend something in her ear, they took off and we stayed together just me and her, then she started making eye contact, I started looking at my plate and got mad it didn't have enough salt and took off, got outside bought a bottle of vodka and drank it that night and punched a hole in a door (they didn't find out who did it).
She then started dating a legit 5'5 manlet and it felt like death to see them together, she was a legit tall 10/10 body 10/10 face girl.
I stopped trying then, my gf is a 6/10...

[Anonymous No.23877753]

>>23873948
I'm an introvert who's very creative (I write poetry) and I suck at math. Am I a statistical error?

[Anonymous No.23877885]

>>23877739
Same here.
>Be me, turbo-autist
>Cute girl in one of my uni classes talks to me out of nowhere
>"Hey, anon! Don't we take Calculus together?"
>"Really. Haven't noticed."
>Ignore her due to combined autism and sleep deprivation
>she stops talking to me
>months later remember that that calculus class had 300 students
>Fuck me

[Anonymous No.23877943]

>>23873237
based
I'm going to get RU-58841 and minoxidil to fix my hairline and then run a mild steroid cycle under the supervision of some hormone clinic near me
cannot be fucked with surgery, it just doesn't look natural

[Anonymous No.23877954]

>>23873995
Trump won

[Anonymous No.23877989]

>>23873812
>RTT
Based
I'm too autistic to ever consider tats, roids+tan seems to do wonders on its own though
Summer 2018 I was very lean natty and tanned and I still did pretty well, I'm hoping to run low dose testosterone and anavar once the covid hoax is completely out of the way here in the UK and get even leaner than I was then with more size (especially wider delts)

[Anonymous No.23878064]

>>23877989
If your look is incongruent with who you really are, you’ll struggle and get more depressed from feeling like a fraud . Women are the best lie detectors and shit testers that exist they’ll simply push and push until you buckle and fall apart. However becoming more masculine is done in a boxing gym/dojo around other men, it changes you and as for becoming better with women, being exposed to them more will make you more comfortable

[Anonymous No.23878392]

>>23877128
I did this roughly a year ago.
It is pretty effective. Besides all the changes on the lower face, it also opened up the ribs of my chest and straightened up my waist a little bit because of the changing method of breathing. It even evens my temper a little bit. It may take another 2 to 4 years to let all the benefits to sink in, but I'm pretty sure I'm gonna be much better looking at this pace.
Now I just can't handle looking at my mouth breathing dad. It is so fucking disgustingly degenerative. If your parents breathe with their mouth, there is a high chance that you are ugly and having a bad personality.

[Anonymous No.23878945]

mse + fm or bust.

[Anonymous No.23879320]

>>23878392
same here anon, I only started nose breathing 4-5 months ago at 35 it still feels weird but I notice some improvements and overall I hold my breath less, so less anxiety but I read it takes years for full improvements

[Anonymous No.23879685]

>>23873237
spotted golden one on biz
post your gains faggot

[Anonymous No.23879771]

I am 26 years old and I never even kissed a girl

[Anonymous No.23880451]

Ja, keep on.
Do it for your kids.

[Anonymous No.23880535]

>>23877739
wtf man you seriously give me some inspiration honestly.

idk what the fuck to do, if you were back on that would you have tried and talked with her? Maybe you knew you had to do it but you skipped

I think I've read somewhere that you on caveman times you were supposed not to talk to girls because you might die and the alpha of the group kills you. But now if you think about it what was the reason why you didn't respond to her?

[Anonymous No.23880676]

>>23878945
I'm getting MSE in a few weeks, will probably do facemask as well

[Anonymous No.23880736]

>>23877885
Bruuuh same, I sometimes cannot sleep thinking about all the times I fucked up with women due to autism or social awkwardness. From my experience, if you're younger, confidence is key. Imagine being 16/17 with all the knowledge and confidence you have right now, you would fuck every girl which shows any interest in you. The older you get, the more other things like being genuinely nice, caring and knowing how to provide a woman with orgasms and make her feel good about herself matter. Don't chase women who are interested in your financial status, this will ruin you in the long run.

[Anonymous No.23880775]

you will be incel to the rest of your days

[Anonymous No.23880811]

>>23880775
yeah probably

[Anonymous No.23880939]

>>23873577
>its not just looks
>its a life time of wining with women BECAUSE looks
what did he mean by this?
I will agree with you that its not just looks, status is a big deal. foids are so hypergamous that its not even about how many good things you have going, its also how many flaws they see in you. Looks contribute to status all the time. A dope dealer has that type of authority + danger vibe to them that turns women on. But he must also look the part or else his success will be very throttled. Confidence, status, money are all factors that help you become a successful at attracting mates, but they are all bottle-necked by looks. Your looks need to be above a certain threshold that has only been increasing thanks to tinder, social media, and the over domestication and policing of men. The Incel problem is directly caused by the elites and the system they put in place.

[Anonymous No.23881055]

>>23880939
>The Incel problem is directly caused by the elites and the system they put in place.
I believe its because we're moving from a patriarchal society to a matriarchal one, the elites want this, it will cause suffering but it will shape humanity for the better... reason there are ugly people around is because women didnt have power, we are seeing the shift, but I believe we will go back to a patriarchal society in like 100 years but every human will be phisically good looking and there will be less suffering on earth because of this

[Anonymous No.23881134]

>>23880939
He meant that if you're good looking, charismatic from the beginning, throughout your lifetime, you will accumulate more and more positive interaction with women, which improves your game naturally. I personally don't know any women which is turned on by the "danger vibe" of a dope dealer. The women who are attracted by free weed are trash. The bottleneck also applies to social media since you see only the 5% most attractive people getting attention there, so there is no real world transfer here. As long as you're taking care of yourself, looks don't matter as much as you think...of course you can't be a 3/10 neckbeard and expect women to like you for your "outstanding" personality

[Anonymous No.23881153]

>>23880535
>caveman times
you mean hunter gatherer societies? You know those groups didnt actually have an 'alpha' right? They were mostly monogamous with some casual polygamy. It is the exception not the rule amongst hutner-getherer societies. The agricultural revolution is what widened the gap between the co-called alphas and betas. The most grotesque manipulation of sexual resources only existed in the civilized world.

Humans by-large are a monogamous species. But that does not mean that either gender is loyal. Most birds are 100% monogamous, yet scientists only found out only recently that female and male birds are actually serial adulterers. Just because women cheat and are hypergamous does not mean that humanity has an alpha-beta system like wolves or lions. Polygamy is much harder than adultery and we all know that chad does not like to commit to hoes like that, so why would he act differently in hunter-gatherer times? The only reason women act the way they do nowadays is because society allows them to have their cake and eat it.

[Anonymous No.23881357]

>>23881134
Dangerous men dont attract women? You are delusional. I cannot even consider what you just wrote if you seriously don't understand the impact of dark triad traits(looks or otherwise) on male attractiveness. You have no argument and no understanding of what you are talking about. you can keep the "muh personal experience" and "5% of bullshit statistic out your own ass" to yourself. Damn how naive can one person be.
>>23881055
Nope, we are not moving towards a matriarchal society. those never existed in human history, not civilized ones anyway. Women are being propped up due to a specific agenda but the people at the top are still 100% men. The people who control the financial systems and the money flow of the entire world are men. Politicians, professors, even presidents, are just play-pretend shmucks. They all answer to the people who pay their salary. The elites want 99% of people under their command and dependent on them. Women being given social power over men is just a ploy to weaken the men so they dont revolt. But make no mistake, women aren't going to be ruling shit. They're too midwit, weak, and unambitious for that. Women are the perfect goy. They base their entire belief system over whats popular and go 100% with the social flow every time unless there is a man in their life pushing them against it. Take away social authority from men and give it to women and you have the perfect slave populous. The elites never interact directly with the public, its all done through the 'elected' individuals. Ask any normie who runs the fed, the IMF, or whatever central bank their country has and they wont have an answer. But these are the people who control the entire money supply and decide the fate of the country. Its by design folks

[Anonymous No.23881535]

>>23881055
>reason there are ugly people around is because women didnt have power,
this isn't true you fucking midwit. Hypergammy is relative, It does not matter how you look, but how you look in comparison to your competition. Thats why it does not matter if we made every man the same height or look the same, women will simply ignore that and start judging men based on something else. There are many species in nature where 90% of males simply dont breed. This is true in alpha-beta systems. In these species the females were 100% in control of who bred and who didnt. yet the ratio of 'incel' males is still the same after millions of years of female selection?! Its because of two things, ugly females still get to breed, passing on their sub optimal genes AND the fact that hypergammy is relative and will keep changing and mutating its desired standards depending on the available competition. The only reason incels exist is because of women, not the other way around. monogamous patriarchal systems make the least incels out of every other system. Unless you make all men genetically optimal with gene-editing which again has nothing to do with women having power.

[Anonymous No.23881538]

>>23873474
To be able to get you foot in the door, fucking drastic measures need taken for some of us. You have no idea what life’s like for an ugly man.

[Anonymous No.23881692]

>>23873738
Looks aside you're incredibly unattractive.
>lms
It's not any of those. Perceived genetic fitness is all that matters for mating. Looks, money and social status are signals indicating fitness. The biggest indicator by far is ability to navigate social cues and dominate the female in subtle power games and shit tests. Men like you with no self esteem and an obsession about being validated by females are shit at it. A surgery might help you get laid but you admit in your post it's not about getting laid since escorts don't count. You're seeking status and validation not sex.

[Anonymous No.23881795]

>>23873590
Exactly. People need to learn what the halo effect is.

[Anonymous No.23882035]

>>23881692
Well said, only those who understand the game can see the power dynamics at play, the incel will simplify it with logic and say “oh no, he’s just better looking, he has better teeth then me, bigger arms, I’m bald, he just has more money then me” no, chad simply makes his environment work around him

[Anonymous No.23882163]

Like I said earlier when I dealt dope I’ve known many guys of average appearance that slay women and I’ve known multiple male models thatre goofballs, act like fags that repulse women. Looks can get you attention and that first 5 seconds with a woman, if you’re retarded it’ll go no further unless she’s incredibly low value

[Anonymous No.23882173]

looksmaxxing is for LOW IQ

[Anonymous No.23882405]

>>23881535
>>23881357

>Unless you make all men genetically optimal with gene-editing which again has nothing to do with women having power.
it does because women are the ones that control mating, even in nature, we are a product of a strongly patriarcal society, thats why you see 5 foot 1 men and 6 foot 8 men, men with 4 inch dicks and. men with 9 inch, men with ugly faces and men whitout, women during medieval times werent given a choice, and we are the genetic aftermath of this, during the last 100 years women were given more power and men have started becoming taller, and better looking, what we are seeing now with feminism and the media is a big push towards eugenics which will cause suffering now but 10 generations from now humans will be happier and more aligned esthetically between themselves, like nature wants, see if we look at mammals species most have the same size / height, humans have too much discrepancy, this will be corrected in the next 100 years, ((philanthropists)) are pushing for this cus they want to push the human forward.
if we look at a purely patriarchal society ( muslims) we will see that they are among the shortest on the planet, have the smallest dicks and have ugly faces, caucasians however never had such a strong patriarchy so we came out better looking..
now dispute this

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[Anonymous No.23882556]

>>23873442
He can just marry a non weak chinned girl and hope for the best

[Anonymous No.23882560]

>>23882463
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[Anonymous No.23882666]

I'm glad I was born with near maxxed face stats and don't have to go under a knife lol. What if the doctor is retard and makes you look even worse?

[Anonymous No.23882674]

>>23882405
>Selective breeding of SS soldiers to good looking german girls
>Hitler was literally right

[Anonymous No.23882836]

>>23882405
Men have higher variance, the genes are shuffled around more to see what happens, even more now due to nobody dying. Women need to follow the working formula reliably to not die in child birth. Danny DeVito is the way he is because he's a failed genetic experiment not because he's a descendant of warlords. Most features called attractive are just signalling health so when the warlord selects a woman to rape the features that made her attractive to him are passed down to her son without making him feminine. To be able to plunder and rape in the first place you also need to be relatively genetically healthy.

[Anonymous No.23882899]

knowing al this shit is good,

but how are you doing with women?

[Anonymous No.23882939]

>>23882666
I agree, Satan. Im not even very good looking, but fuck letting a doctor mess with my face.

[Anonymous No.23882959]

>>23873237
You absolute fucking beta cuck. When you stop caring about pleasing women and focus on real goals/succes in life, women will come to you. Confidence and a fun personality make up for almost any deficiency in looks. Unless you wanna be that one night stand fuckboy, but in that case you're just aiming for the low hanging DUMB fruit anyway. Just remember, you'll never become a true chad by adding a fake jawline. When will you tards ever fucking learn. Fuck sakes.

[Anonymous No.23882979]

>>23882405
this kinda make sense, but how can we exploit it?

[Anonymous No.23883000]

>>23882405
This is so fucking retarded. You realize ugly men still fuck and get married right?

To be the special kind of incel here, you must be mentally ill, socially maladjusted, have maladaptive behavior patterns due to trauma, and be ugly.

[Anonymous No.23883013]

>>23882959
how to improve then? I mean yes you are right, PUA, approach randomly on the streets? what?

[Anonymous No.23883159]

>>23883000
good thing you are all of those anon

[Anonymous No.23883193]

>>23882979
you can only try to correct your defects if you want your offspring to be happy and to survive in this eugenics experiment.
this is the reason women have so much power now, women shape men genetically, thats what nature does, we are in this condition now because nature was manipulated ((catholic church)) because the ((elites)) needed slaves to work their factories, we dont need them anymore, the only thing elites want is to shape humanity, what will a human be like in 500 years? well if we give women power we will get humans to be better looking and without such high face /height / dick size discrepancies and then we will give the final push through gene manipulation, we will reach perfection, kants' ubermensh, yes some will suffer but for a greater good, alternatively we could just go on with this world of pain, but eventually nature will correct the discrepancy between all of us, like it wants to do..
how to profit?
idk

[Anonymous No.23883207]

>>23873454
how'd he get better hair too?

[Anonymous No.23883247]

>>23883000
>To be the special kind of incel here, you must be mentally ill, socially maladjusted, have maladaptive behavior patterns due to trauma, and be ugly.
oh fugg D:

[Anonymous No.23883256]

>>23883000
sounds like a woman to me,
see women actually have a harder time accepting the facts I wrote above, cus they are the perpetrators. But there is nothing wrong with doing so, its nature, when a female monkey gives birth to a monkey that has some physical problems it rejects the baby, same with every other mammal, women should have no shame in doing this, it is nature

[Anonymous No.23883286]

>>23873237
I dont know what the fuck this post is saying specifically but I know that I want to ring your neck so hard that your head pops off.

[Anonymous No.23883289]

>>23883013
>focus on real goals/succes in life, women will come to you
Achieve some status and validation on whatever terms suit you best and build yourself up step by step. Money can't do it alone but it's one of the most popular crutches. If you're a genetic failure you can still be a big fish in a small pond and dominate the Rick & Morty fanfic community or whatever.

[Anonymous No.23883716]

>>23883013
>>23883289
Way too complex to give a one-size-fits-all answer, but in general it boils down to something like:

>Never lower yourself in order to impress a women. Don't be clingy, be your own man.
>Work out, preferably with friends (any kind of sports is okay really, you'll notice your energy levels and sleep improve greatly from working your body)
>Eat healthy
>Aim high in your carreer, don't settle for being a low range wageslave. Explore options to climb the ladder
>Be social, try to hang out with friends in person regularly. This may then lead to more social activities etc.

Chances WILL present themself in time. Don't try to force it on the streets. Just try your thing in fitting scenario's, social circles, going to a bar, hell even Tinder(be ready to wade through seas of dumb cunts though). You just have to create and become the image of a hard working decent and fun/social human being. In the end most women settle for these characteristics to breed, not the chad looking fuckboy who happens to have a jawline.

t. Married chad

Oh and forget about the 10/10 looking women. These pretty much know their value on the market and have become insufferable as a result, because there are so many beta incels basically worshipping them. Don't be that guy. Hope I added some value to the world today lol.

[Anonymous No.23883768]

>>23873237
>Smart as fuck (130+ iq unironically)
>Look like a greek god in terms of body and facial structure
>Make 6 figures
>Hot gf, banged dozens of girls in the past, so I'm ready to settle down now and bless the earth with my gifted genetics

Being superior feels pretty good

[Anonymous No.23884212]

>>23883768
>unironically
Have you taken an iq test

[Anonymous No.23884228]

>>23884212
in a clinical serting i mean

[Anonymous No.23884618]

>>23884212
I had to take a bunch when I was in grade 4, 5 and 6 because my teachers thought I was a genius. I didn't go ahead grades then because my mom didn't want to "stunt my social development" or some shit, thanks mom. But I did mostly graduate in grade 10 and I just had to go back in grade 11 for my grade 12 gym and band (not even joking, our school system is broken). Also, 'unironically' is a real word. But language is just a social construct, new words are created daily and the only difference between them and "real" words is adoption and usage.

[Anonymous No.23884799]

>>23883716
I'm doing literally all of what you said.

Making more than average, decent looking, good physique, train 3-4 times a week, dont eat processed food, go out with friends. I learned coding, marketing and business all by myself, worked in all those fields and now I'm doing ok. All the time I was focusing on improving myself I kinda new I was escaping the fact that I wasnt that good with women.

Ok I meet women, but it's weird... the ones that I don't like sometimes wants to fuck but I dont want to fuck them.

The ones that I like I either fuck up because I dont know what to do or most of the time I dont even try because I'm too scared or inexperienced. From the outside I have the vibe of a better than average guy, confident and everything, but I'm seriously struggling to make my intensions clear and trying in general.


Like I could fuck some 6s but I seriously dont have any desire to do so.

I keep trying cold approach but it's so hard for me to approach. I'm not autistic so when I get there I can talk and have a decent conversation but I usually roam around for 2-3 hours to do 1 approach and sometimes I fail that because I was too anxious.

I need to try tinder again but I've tried a year ago and only got some matches with 6s or 7s that didn't go nowhere, and honesty I hate texting and meeting girls online.

Sometimes I really think to give up and not worrying so much, but I think I need to get disciplined and start investing time into this like a job.

[Anonymous No.23884949]

>>23881153
>humanity used to largely monogamous
Is that why the gender ratio used to be 1 man for every 20 women back then? Fucking idiot

[Anonymous No.23885732]

>>23882405
This sounds smart but too bad this has been debunked.

[Anonymous No.23886004]

>>23883159
sick burn friend

[Anonymous No.23886853]

>>23884799
Don't worry too much about it anon, I'm in the same boat as you, as are many other men.
You got this

[Anonymous No.23887169]

>>23873237
I don't really care about anything else, but how do people who get these surgeries deal with facing their family, friends, or people they knew before. It would just seem like social suicide to me if you decide to change your face to be more attractive.

[Anonymous No.23887243]

>>23873299
Surgery brings you the best of both worlds here, you don't have to look at that manly jawline on your honey but your sons will have chins like a fucking mountain.

[Anonymous No.23887291]

>>23873483
>>23877714
So much this. I'm the only chincel in my entire family and its because I never played sports, terrible posture, mouth breathed also had allergies that made it hard to breath through nose. Now my chin is recessed somewhat. Parents and siblings, grandparents, cousins, uncles, aunts, etc, all have chad protruding chins. I don't. It cannot be genetics.

If youre chincel and get the surgery, you're just looking like you were meant to. Don't let your children be exposed to shitty environmental factors that will make them chincels. Bam. Lineage saved.

[Anonymous No.23887586]

>>23873237
yes, hope you get fucked, don't need more competition