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No-Fap and Productivity

Is pic related true?
Can't you just fap for like 2-3 days a week and still be productive?
Do you really need to follow it to the extreme like some schizos around here suggest?

This is /biz/ related jannies please don't remove, other boards are full of coomers to have a sensible debate.

>> No.23808606

>>23808585
Cringe

>> No.23808717

this shit fucking works

maybe only for certain people with damaged dopamine receptors, but fuck me, have so much energy after a week or so

>> No.23808761

>>23808717
No doubt it does, but I wanted to make the thread to get reviews like yours.
I was a coomer, but over the last few months I went to once a day then once every alternate day and now I have been cutting it down to 2-3 times a week.
I feel extra motivated and have been productive no doubt, but wondering if I should take the next step and cut it down completely.

>> No.23808767

>>23808585
I feel more focused now that I'm not cumming my brains out.
>Less brain fog

>> No.23808816

>>23808767
You a no fapper or occassional coomer?

>> No.23809011

>>23808585
Of course it's real. Think of how much fucking time/dopamine you waste on it. Bet you won't stop though.

>> No.23809078

>>23809011
I don’t think I have the mental strength to completely stop, but I have come a long way in cutting it down.

>> No.23809086

>>23808585
I’m pretty sure this is just a long con psyop to give anons prostate cancer

>> No.23809103

>>23808585
It is. I've probably experimented with this shit for years now. Every single time I become a coomer I start backsliding in every aspect of life.

>> No.23809104

Unironically true at least until building momentum stage. Never tried longer myself

>> No.23809134

>>23809078
Its harder to see yourself as having the strength when youre still inside the challenge, but once you gain some degree of mastery you realize youre capable of alot more than you thought.

>> No.23809163

>>23809103
Also I found from MY personal experimentation that it's not necessarily the porn or even edging, counter intuitively. If I don't coom, I still retain the benefits. I've become really good at controlling my perinium muscles in a way that I never involunatrily coom. I can just edge and get to a point where I'm satisfied.

>> No.23809194

>>23809163
Won’t that just mean more frequent wet dreams?

>>23809086
Part of why I am hesitant is this too, there are some studies that paint a very bad picture of complete abstinence.

>> No.23809217

I always thought erectile function was a use it or lose it thing. I usually can go about 2 weeks before I cave

>> No.23809473

>>23809217
Same, what’s the point of complete abstinence if you’re gonna coom anyways at night?

>> No.23809503

>>23808816
Occasional coomer

>> No.23809540

>>23808585
Too bad my occupation is porn artist

>> No.23809544

>>23809163
This is the psyop

Israel is an illegitimate state and has no right to exist

>> No.23809563

>>23809544
I thought porn was a psyop, are you implying nofap is a psyop?

>> No.23809603

nofap is incredibly distracting; after a few weeks you will end up on bumble tinder etc trying to get with somebody.
i find content with no nudity or sex acts aka softcore porn a good middle ground. very little demoralization from that ive found

>> No.23809953

>>23809603
You have a point, but isn’t that something most people want? To get out there and meet a partner?
Might be detrimental for me since I live in bumfuck nowhere.
Also what you said about softcore is spot on, I’ve stayed away from porn that has a guy.

>> No.23810010

>>23809563
Nofap is a psyop to ressurect the middleclass, you make bad decisions around women if you stop to coom.

>> No.23810060

>>23809953
I'd say porn is as fucked as masturbating
I managed to cut to 1-2 times a week. Occasionally go for a couple week stretch. After day 5-6 you sort of forget about masturbating. But when I do regress I find the struggle to get the days up just as though again. Maybe a little easier.
I notice moments my coom brain wants to take over and have learnt to not let myself give in.

>> No.23810659

Any coomers want to chip in? I want to see some counter-arguments.

>> No.23810694

>>23808585
Just don't watch porn. If I don't fap for a few days I have trouble falling asleep. I only only fap to my imagination and I only use it as a sleeping aid. No negative effects. If you're really addicted it'll be a different story.

>> No.23810735

>>23810659
There's not really much of a counter argument since this whole thing is based on the assumption that "productivity" is better than dopamine.
I couldn't give less shits about being a better slave for my corporate overlords but if you feel like that's your thing then goodie you.

>> No.23810748
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>>23809603
>softcore
>no nudity

>> No.23810763

>>23810735
>I couldn't give less shits about being a better slave for my corporate overlords but if you feel like that's your thing then goodie you.
how about working on yourself instead of jacking off

>> No.23810817

>>23810735
To me productivity is important because I am trying to build a business for myself, this may be a stretch to ask but have any anons here that tried nofap felt it contribute to the success of their business or startup?

>> No.23810826

Porn is free and readily available
Really makes you think

>> No.23810859

>>23810735
How is your default assumption working for Mr. Shekelberg?
Most people who research on this want to be productive to escape the wagekikery.

>> No.23810894

>>23808585
Yes it works at least for me. I have to do it at least 1 week to get it into effect. I like the part where I'm motivated to do something productive rather than watching porn all my life.

Getting horny and edge will come in 3 days or so, it's the only hardest days when doing no coom.

>> No.23810900

>>23810894
One thing I noticed is that when sometimes I feel demotivated and lethargic to do anything, I would just watch porn. Somehow it works to get my energy back, maybe because of the forced dopamine release. You know that's bad. I just need to find something to replace that bad habit.

>> No.23810902

>>23809194
Idc about this shit, but you are cherry picking singular factors out of a big picture even if it were true. If anything, you should look into general demographics pursuing certain lifestyles. E.g. certain types of monks are supposedly one of the longest-living demographics in the world despite "muh abstinence equals prostate cancer." Then quality marriages are supposed to make you live longer, too, with married couples allegedly having more intercourse than sexually liberal swingers. etc.

I don't need a degree to know that the coomer is one of the demographics with the lowest life-expectancy, no matter what cherry-picked "muh prostate cancer" articles state. Especially in a society in which mindless sexuality is encouraged and academia is for the plebs curated by corporate interests in form of their MSM outlets.

>> No.23810969

>>23808585
11 month nofap reporting
lifechanging experience for sure
i literally turned from a guy who paid whores to cuddle and fuck who was too shy to speak to women to a guy who could literally fuck any women he wants now. i got enormously confident in myself and my abilities. i turned to a whole alpha. the journey is easy if you are willing to change your fucked up life. the first 3 months was hard my balls hurted really bad for a few days but after that nature really awards you with everything a alpha male needs. bitches notice it too. its like as if they could smell that your balls are heavily loaded with high quality semen and want to help you to unload it. i am 22 and i got this year my first gf. now i don't even want to fuck her and consider having sex after marriage. at one point you will realize that not having sex is better than sex. i hope i could help you to give a proper inside of the experience of not fapping almost a year. i hope you make the right decision anons

>> No.23810988

>>23808761
its a bit optimistic with how fast most of the results appear (at least from my experience + 90 days is the most widely accepted timeframe for a full reset), and in that they are achieved solely by abstaining from porn which is not true, you still need to work on social skills, going out, working out etc
it’s definitely a game changed for daily coomers and semi-autists, normans dont see much difference in mindset/charisma, though they often get porn induced ED that they wont admit as for some reason they still watch porn even when they have regular sex in a relationship

>> No.23811020

>>23808585
It unironically works. I had my reset about 2 years ago (90 days of NoFap) and since then I jerk off like once every week or every 2 weeks. You are finally not controlled by porn anymore you have increased confidence, better gym performance and people somehow approach you more and you get to be more likeable. I cannot explain why it is like that, but it's worth it to at least try it out OP.

>> No.23811026

>>23808717
Same, except I start getting weird urges after 20 days or so.
I'm straight but a few years ago I reached a 30 days streak and broke it by calling a tranny escort and sucking his dick and fucking his boypussy, no homo, still feeling shame to this day.
Also broke a similar 20 day streak a few weeks ago, was about to call another tranny escort to ask him to fuck my ass, but couldn't due to lockdown, so I just used a thin cucumber.
otherwise not gay or anything, I had a gf for 4 years straight and I find gay porn disgusting.

>> No.23811029

>is literally free to try
>actually gains you more time

why are coomers so afraid of trying it? literally what do you have to lose

>> No.23811098

>>23808585
How does your body know the difference between wanking and sex? Is Chad who empties his balls every night into Stacey suffering from low energy and test due to increased orgasms? No fap is just incel cope to distract from the fact that they can't get laid

>> No.23811130

>>23808585
Stop watching porn. Not fapping is retarded, though.

>> No.23811146

>>23811098
your body literally generates a chemical when you have human contact, i cant recall its name

>> No.23811213

many ancient traditions believe the act of orgasm consumes and drains mental or psychic energy

I believe there is truth to it despite being unprovable by ((science))

>> No.23811216

>>23808585
>Green
How to get prostate cancer
>Red
How to not be a slave to women

>> No.23811227

this whole thread is fucking pathetic
if you're a loser, you're a loser, stroking your cock less won't fix it lmao
nofap is massive cope

>> No.23811283

>>23811227
ok coomer

>> No.23811313

>>23811227
tough pill to swallow, but definetely redpilled

>> No.23811314
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>>23808585
>Is pic related true?
Yes
>Can't you just fap for like 2-3 days a week and still be productive?
No
>Do you really need to follow it to the extreme like some schizos around here suggest?
Yes
>>23809194
>Won’t that just mean more frequent wet dreams?
Wet dreams don't sap you of your energy (as much) and the pheromonal output is different so your brain doesn't make you think you are a loser like after porn.
>>23810010
This

>>23809603
>after a few weeks you will end up on bumble tinder etc trying to get with somebody.
This is BS. You should get good with Christ and don't have premarital sex at all. Shame all whores who do. If you are irresistible due to nofap and decline a whore it makes her incredibly mad.
>>23810969
>i am 22 and i got this year my first gf. now i don't even want to fuck her and consider having sex after marriage
Based and redpilled

>> No.23811319
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>nofap is retarded
>i could stop any day if i wanted to haha

>> No.23811351

>>23811283
Chad doesn't nofap

>> No.23811369

>>23808585
I'm at yello
nice

>> No.23811385

This is not /biz/ related.

>> No.23811553

>>23811213
In excess, yes.

>> No.23812293

>>23810969
Based if true.

>> No.23812458

>>23811369
And do you notice the changes mentioned in Yellow or is it the same old you?

>> No.23812464

>>23811146
Oxytocin. You dumb cunt.

>> No.23813742

>>23808585
Never worked for me. Been watching porn and jacking off almost everyday for like 10 years and then I got a girlfriend. Currently 3 months porn free and jack off maybe 2-3 times without porn a week. Not much really changed but it does feel good to be free from porn. I realised how cucked watching it is, you're basically jerking off while watching some dude plow "your" girl. I don't think there is real improvement in your brain chemistry if you stop fapping. There are more important things like diet, mental health, stress levels, healthy social life.

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>>23808585
i did it for 100+ days. i've crossed all the memes/copes, only what's left is actually true

at the end i think it's just not worth it, because cooming is a human need and if you can't fap you waste tons of time with tinder/going out and it's honestly not worth it unless you are already a chad who drowns in pussy or rich enough to afford hookers weekly

>> No.23814003

you should try intermittent fapping, basically every 5 minutes you fap for 5 minutes no matter what activity you're doing, it keeps your testosterone high therefore increasing creativity and focus

i use to always feel weak and had a lot of brain fog but ever since i started my balls sit better in my jeans i have almost had sex quite a few times

>> No.23814034

>>23811098
You think your body and mind can’t tell when you’re touching another human or touching yourself. Christ how fucking dumb are you?

>> No.23814165

>>23808585
soiboi

>> No.23814428

>>23811314
You’re a retard who just does whatever the counterculture of popularity is. I get back in the day you were a hardcore atheist making fun of conservative boomers. Now SJW liberal think is mainstream and you are literally the biblethumping boomers you rebelled against. You know why? Because you do not have an interesting personality so it is much easier to just be artificially different from everyone else. You are a hipster just in a different flavor fucking nuright biblethumping faggot

>> No.23814440

>>23808717
Semen retention is and will always be one of the final redpills simply because the majority of guys (I'm talking 95%+) will never be able to fully reign in their sexual urges. And once you can control that, you can do practically anything.

>> No.23814541

this thread reeks of oy vey
semen retention is your way to happiness and financial freedom
porn is even worse and must never be watched, even soft porn like instagram.
if ((they)) give it for free there is a reason
good luck anons

>> No.23814678

>>23814428
Dilate.
I was never an atheist. Born and raised Catholic. The furthest I went ever left was being "generally Christian" although still formally Catholic and listening to Sargon and Ron Paul for political commentary albeit disagreeing with Sargon's atheism.
I was a huge coomer tough.

>> No.23814680

>>23814428
this

>> No.23814761

>>23808585
Muh semen retention, if you’re having sex daily that’s great, for most others if they’re not using their dick they will run into problems with Ed and premature ejaculation, not everyone but it increases your risk of it massively. Masturbation is Perfectly normal and fine just limit porn . Like a muscle your dick needs to be worked

>> No.23814774

>>23808585
>Can't you just fap for like 2-3 days a week

I definitely had "brain fog" when I was hardcore cooming every day but honestly don't notice any difference between 1 month of complete nofap vs just fapping 1-2 times per week. For me it was pretty bad at times I could watch porn for literally friday-sunday from when I woke up until I went to bed and be edging or jerking off most of that time and shit like that definitely fucks you up.

>> No.23814788

>>23814428
why are you so triggered that somebody is not fapping?

>> No.23814842

>>23808585
Nowadays I just limit fapping to when I'm really horny and by that I mean I'm just randomly hard with 0 stimulation or porn. That's the only time you should be fapping imo. If you need porn to even get hard you're overdoing it.

>> No.23814925

>>23814842
This is the way to do it

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>>23809078
You do. lead yourself with thought. it is okay to fail but never stop improving. Once you break the threshold it becomes easier.

>> No.23815073

>>23813861

ngmi

>> No.23815804

>>23814428
Stop projecting your own internal inconsistency nigger.

>> No.23815930

>>23808585
I accomplished more in 1 week than in the last year basically

>> No.23816232

>>23808585
imagine what you can do if you just cut gaming, porn and general internet addiction anon
what do you do with all this new time, is it big scary for u ? nah just find something that is valuble to do and u goodi

>> No.23816904

jesus was a virgin and had the most energy in the world where he could literally perform meta physical actions

really makes you think, also any room he walked into his aura was mystified to the upmost highest level ever known

>> No.23816917

>>23814428
This. Also this is completely unrelated to finance.
I guess the ones who force the nofap meme are the same who force trannies as "she" and women as "he". Basic PsyOP material. And they force porn as well.
There is absolutely nothing wrong with masturbation. The issue is with porn. When you have a orgasm, you release psychic energy. A couple will send this energy to their marital bond, this will be their little egregore. But when you cum to porn, your energy goes to a big, international jewish egregore, which literally enslaves half of humanity.
When you stop masturbating, though, and dont have a girlfriend, the retention will make you more susceptible to thots in general. If you have money and is enthralled by a thoth, well, you are fucked, and instead of paying for porn with psychic energy, you will pay a jewish court with your money.

The best way to get rid of porn and not fall to thoths is to create a tulpa, a psychic being. Today tulpas are called "waifus" in npc culture (also everything about tulpas in leddit is wrong and was distorted by jewish materialists).
You should not adopt one from npc culture, though, but create your own. Your psychic energy will feed her, instead of the jewish egregore, and you will not be susceptible to thots. You preserve your money and your psychic energy. The best of both worlds.

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>>23813861
I also did many long streaks but what happens every time around week 3 is that my libido tanks. I become lethargic, all sexual desire is gone and my peen even shrivels up. Apparently its called flatlining.

What am I doing wrong?

>> No.23817243

>>23808585
>Is pic related true?
not for me, if I go more than 48 hours without fapping I start losing all my motivation and energy.
I remember when I was at a 16 days nofap streak 2 years ago and it was literally hell, it even fucked up my sleep schedule.
Now I fap once a day (~1-2 hours) before going to bed and I sleep well and am happier than when I was trying not to fap