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>> No.23613054
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friendly reminder that all doomers are poor.

>> No.23613070

What happens when a president elect is sent to jail before inauguration.

https://twitter.com/DonaldJTrumpJr/status/1321987267070775296

>> No.23613074

>>23613054
But not all Rich are bloomers.

>> No.23613099

Y-you guys keep talking about mortgages kicking off another crash
W-will my REITs be ok when they have earnings next week?

>> No.23613100

>>23613070
i started reading replies i think i got cancer

>> No.23613117

>>23613054
Based
>>23613067
>Inflation
>3%
>QE produces inflation
If only. Look at the Japs to get an idea.
>>23613068
The dip is now and forever.
>>23613099
No, it will collapse the day before. We will all live in caves and start fearing the sunlight.

>> No.23613125

give me one reason that I shoulnd't kill ymeself,

>> No.23613128

>hentai
Banned
>cuties
A ok
The fuck is wrong with you Aussie's?

>> No.23613152

Mfa here. Only been swinging tho. Actually had a huge dip prior too divvies. Sooo got to hop in andddd swing out plus a divvy. Pretty excited about that. It comes tomorrow

>> No.23613154
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23613154

i dont give AF what the market does each day. lines go up . lines go down

every two weeks i buy 500 more dollars worth of SSO and QLD

>> No.23613159

>>23613125
Because you didn't go all in on AAPL

>> No.23613175

>>23613125
You can always suck dick for more stock gambling money.

>> No.23613183

>>23613117
The japs didn't use helicopter money. If it wasn't for Pelosi, we would be getting a 2nd check and possibly 3rd later.
Look at what happened in the 70s with inflation. Nobody thought the crazy fiscal spending of the 60s along with WW2 debt would cause inflation and if it did, we could control it. Then Volcker effectively killed the stock market for 10 straight years trying to keep inflation from spiraling out of control

>> No.23613189
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B*lls will be punished tomorrow for today's cockiness.

>> No.23613219

>>23613183
>Volcker
The man delayed the inevitable. He gave it a good shot though, essentially giving anons here a chance to escape.

>> No.23613223
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Are you ready?

>> No.23613229

They're going to introduce social credit scores in America to control hate speech, specifically anti-semitism. Trump will be pressured into implementing this. This is arguably constitutional since banks are private institutions, they can choose to deny service whenever they feel like it. This also includes brokerage accounts.

Once they put it into place, people who are anti-Semitic will no longer be able to access their bank accounts or spend money (even if it is their own money). They'll just starve to death and they'll be counted as a COVID-19 death.

You have been warned.

>> No.23613232

>>23613223
Explain this image

>> No.23613240

>>23613232
That is the cropped and censored version.

>> No.23613258

>>23613232
A black swan fucking a crab who is fucking a bear who is fucking a bull
>>23613240
This

>> No.23613270

>>23613183
Inflation and interest rate hikes only picked up after 1945 when there was real economic growth and the government stopped borrowing. Also the entire world was practically destroyed at that point.

That has not happened yet. There is no real economic growth right now. Come back after WW3 ends.

>> No.23613294

>>23613270
So you're basically saying inflation and interest rate hikes can only happen after a world war. Okay buddy lmao no point talking to you anymore

>> No.23613305

>>23613229
Nice black mirror episode

>> No.23613318

>>23613270
Thats even more inflationary. All the infrastructure and shit is still there, unlike being destroyed which would be a long term deflationary force. A switch just needs to flip from risk off to risk on, and EVERYTHING is going to be bid up to nose bleed levels.

>> No.23613328

tfw no money to buy the dip

>> No.23613338

What the fuck am I supposed to do when I have no money to profit off of the fucking dip?

>> No.23613343

>>23613183
This isn't shared enough here.

https://wtfhappenedin1971.com/

Know your history anons.

>> No.23613349

>>23613338
employment helps

>> No.23613353

>>23613240
>>23613258
Lmaow! Didn’t notice the bear or bull, where’s the full version

>> No.23613359
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what's the best ETF to buy and hold for long term when this shit crashes? i want to put the cheapies to good use

>> No.23613360
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>Now the first time you buy GME...that's the hardest. I don't give a shit if you're fucking Warren Buffett or the K-Pop anon. First one is tough, no fucking foolin'. The second time - second time ain't no fuckin' bull run, but it's better than the first 'cause you still feel the same thing...except it's more diluted, y'know? It's better. I threw up on the first time, you know that? Then the third time. Third time is easy, you level right off. That's no problem. Now...shit...now I do it just to cum.

>> No.23613362

if i have covered calls that im hoping to use to sell my shares, will they get automatically sold when the person who bought my call exercises them? i wont have to do anything, my shares will just be gone and paid for? and they can exercise it before the expiration right?

>> No.23613372
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Post predictions for the following for tomorrow by EOD. Dubs decide:
>DOW
>SPX
>NQ
If trips it is certain

>> No.23613397

>>23613362
Yes

>> No.23613398
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lads, tell me how it's gonna be tomorrow

>> No.23613406

>>23613343
Im slowly red pill dropping this to retards at work. It’s not left vs right we’re all in a jar killing each other after someone shakes the jar.

(((Who))) is shaking the jar making people fight is what I ask them

>> No.23613423

i don't want to sell my G*E because bulls capitulating means the big shorts might cover during the crash next week

>> No.23613427

>>23613099
Idk. Theyre pretty annoying and arent recovering even with some of them doing well.

>> No.23613433

>>23613372
>DOW
25000
>SPX
3190
>NQ
10500

>> No.23613437

>>23613359
VOO

>> No.23613458

>>23613294
The 1970s and 1980s were a period of increasing interest rates. Fiat was already decoupled from gold. Right now we're near the peak of the fiat interest rate cycle. It's only downhill from here as fiat begins to increase in value and debts begin to implode. The only asset worth anything by the end of this is US government debt (bonds and notes).

You will get paid back only a fraction of the face value, but you get to renegotiate the new terms of how the nation will be run in a public debt restructuring. This includes removing free speech, adding anti-antisemitism laws, and eliminating the second amendment. These ideas will be met with popular support since the demographics will be very different then.

The Fed will fail in fighting deflation and the stock market will crash. The government could potentially default unless they agree to new terms (constitutional convention + removal of free speech while renegotiating the dollar's reserve currency status). The IMF SDR will come to replace the dollar, and it will be made up of 30% Chinese Yuan.

>> No.23613477

>>23613343
Productivity is up because of technology.

>> No.23613481

>>23613359
When you buy from an online brokerage (Robinhood), you don't actually own anything. You just have a long position in an account managed by the brokerage.

They don't have to give you the stock certificate if they don't feel like it.

>> No.23613482

>>23613406
Yep I'm redpilling my coworkers too, I've been printing out posts from /pol/ and leaving them on random people's desks, they called the police to start an investigation so I think it's workinb

>> No.23613493

If Trump offered to give Pelosi 4000 dollars per individual, what would happen if she rejected that?

Would CNN show up at her house with baseball bats?

>> No.23613498

>>23613362
Yes. They’ll be gone by the next day

>> No.23613502

What do people mean when they say that stocks and bonds are no longer inversely correlated ever since the crash? I know what correlation means, but I mean, why are they no longer inversely correlated?

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>>23613223
based Uncle Ted in the back

>if you only knew how bad things really are

>> No.23613512
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line go up or down tomorrow?

>> No.23613514

>>23613125
Anon don't kill yourself! I don't want you being eternally damned. Read the Holy Bible, I recommend starting from the New Testament. Jesus Christ who is God came to the world to save us from sin, from eternal damnation. He died on the cross, yet 3 days later He rose from the grave claiming victory over sin and death. Believe in Jesus Christ, gain everlasting life. I pray my Lord and Savior Jesus Christ helps thee overcome the darkness that swallows you whole. Don't kill yourself anon.

>> No.23613517

>>23613458
You mixed a bunch of theories into one while spreading fud on deflation. Deflation that is caused artificially by lockdowns. Fuck off with this shit already.

>> No.23613524

>>23613481
Do you have alzheimers or something?

>> No.23613530

>>23613359
VTI
its the entire US market

>> No.23613532

>>23613502
Inversely correlated means one go up other go down

>> No.23613537

>>23613398
Your ZM puts should do well enough to hold up the rest of that garbage

>> No.23613539
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>>23613398

Where is your CLF

>> No.23613549

>>23613125
Drinking yourself to death is slightly more fun

>> No.23613552

>>23613502
most of the time when bond yields go up the stock market would go down as this alternative investment is now more attractive.

>> No.23613553

>>23613512
Down through Tuesday. After that its gonna dump hard or crab out till a winner is selected. Then who knows, maybe the moon

>> No.23613554

>>23613532
Okay.
Before March 2020, that's how it worked between stocks and bonds. After that crash, they generally move together, making it pointless to diversify among the two in a portfolio at least for now. Did stimulus cause it? Did the Jews do it?

>> No.23613556

>futures
Bobo's back

>> No.23613557

>>23613514
I read the entire children's illustrated bible as a kid did nothing for me god isn't the answer money is and I don't have any left

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>>23613514
/This

>> No.23613603

>>23613229
Suck my dick you kike nigger

>> No.23613604

>>23611008

Have you tried selling covered calls on spy?

>> No.23613606

>>23613517
The recession began in September 2019 and it is politically motivated, like all other recessions. CARES act fiscal put is about to expire and stocks will reach their real valuations.

>> No.23613622

>>23613549
This is the path I have chosen

>> No.23613626

>>23613554
The government is the economy now, which is why they're positively correlated.

>> No.23613627

Dividends are your fren

>> No.23613628
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WHAT'S THE EXIT POINT FOR GME

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>>23613433

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>>23613539

>> No.23613652

>>23613628
Anon, I...

>> No.23613653

Odds of the GME short squeeze happening?

>> No.23613662

>>23613359
this >>23613530
or VOO, VO, VB in custom percentages if you want to overweight small/mid caps

>> No.23613665

>>23613649
Nobody is pumping your retarded no volume insanely OTM calls

CLF shouldn't even have an options chain

>> No.23613681
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>>23613653
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2V3CfD8TPac

>> No.23613710

>>23613229
Unironically based.

>> No.23613735

>>23613626
This. When crypto, precious metals, stocks, and bonds all move together you know its clown market and we are in the end times of this epoch.

>> No.23613743
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>>23613437
>>23613530
>>23613662
Thanks anons. I can't believe I get to get cheapies like this TWICE in one year. meme flu for the win

>> No.23613777

>>23613557
It sounds like you made money your god, and he abandoned you. But God will still have you back, anon. He hasn't given up on you, even if you've given up on him.

>> No.23613783

>>23613502
Because interest rates have reached the zero lower bound. Risk-free return is only an attractive investment during a crash if there's actual return, otherwise might as well go cash. Furthermore, if interest rates ever go up you're mega-fucked as your shitty low interest rate bonds will go down in value. As a note, government decreasing interest rates during every crash also amplified the inverse correlation, but that's no longer realistic to expect unless they go negative.

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>>23613777
This.

>One of the criminals who hung there hurled insults at him: “Aren’t you the Messiah? Save yourself and us!”

>But the other criminal rebuked him. “Don’t you fear God,” he said, “since you are under the same sentence? 41 We are punished justly, for we are getting what our deeds deserve. But this man has done nothing wrong.”

>Then he said, “Jesus, remember me when you come into your kingdom.”

>Jesus answered him, “Truly I tell you, today you will be with me in paradise.”

>> No.23613846
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23613846

Pictured:
Left: Jew - Multiple market crashes, almost 0% rates
Right: Jew - Great Financial Collapse, 0% rates, QE
Center: German - 200% market gains over tenure, 20% rates

Coincidence?

>> No.23613847

>>23613681
why?

>> No.23613848

>>23613359
qqq

>> No.23613862

>>23613125
you only need $1.00 to go all in

>> No.23613863

>my JPM dividend comes in tomorrow
Best time of the quarter right here: dividend pay date. What’s more comfy than literally getting free money for holding stock in quality, dividend paying companies?

>> No.23613869

im buying calls tomorrow

>> No.23613880

>>23613846
Wasn't it Trump that picked the first non-jew for that position?

>> No.23613887
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>>23613863
thats easy, holding a shit stock that pays a shit dividend when you could've allocated your funds into a stock that gains value

>> No.23613898
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I pulled out. I'll jump back in on the ground floor but I just couldn't take anymore losses. 4 days frens. 4 days of horrifying bloodshed. Forgive me pleas

>> No.23613899

Zoom is worth more than Exxon Mobile

>> No.23613924

>>23613899
ZM isn't worth anything at all and a whole lot of people are about to find that out

>> No.23613931

>>23613880
Volcker is a Christian of Germanic descent, but you're right in assuming a "gentile" as chair of the FOMC is a rarity

>> No.23613933

>>23613887
>jpm
>shit company
>shit dividend
Retard alert.

>> No.23613943

>>23613863
Enjoy your 5$

>> No.23613947

>>23613931
He was also a giant. fucker was like 8 feet tall

JPow is also a gentile

>> No.23613973

>>23613943
Enjoy literally losing everything when the tech bubble bursts

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>>23613433
I wasn't expecting the first reply to be like this

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>>23613933
>holds bank stocks that gain no value during a volatile market
>holds the premium shit retail bank stock instead of V or MA
>

>> No.23614012

>>23613924
I was thinking this earlier, when is it finally time to buy puts for shit like Zoom and Peleton?

>> No.23614017

>>23613973
Ah, typical bagholder mindset; Totally foreign to the concept of selling to secure profit, I guess you never had experience that when you're been forever in the red.

>> No.23614020

>>23613924
Based

>> No.23614034

>>23613973
You realize that the bank bubble is due to burst once moratoriums on rent and mortgages fully end right?

>> No.23614045

>>23613359
SHE

>> No.23614050

>>23613898
>he waited 4 days to pull out

Youre a fucking retard

>> No.23614073
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whos going long on $WWR with me and making money ?
Stay poor then

>> No.23614077

>>23614012
I don't know but this is a bit much, $130B mcap and their only revenue stream is subscriptions? Nobody likes Zoom calls or any kind of video conferencing, they're exhausting and tedious and not as personal as face to face. Busineses are already realizing they've lost something by going all digital and WFH.

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>all of these super smart anons laughing at my dividend income
feels bad bros

>> No.23614099

>>23614034
when is that supposed to happen anyway, early next year?

>> No.23614120
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23614120

>>23613933
>calling someone a retard while holding this piece of shit
>m-muh dividend
lmao

>> No.23614128

>>23614099
real estate is notoriously stubborn because of how illiquid the assets are, it could take 2 years, and even then could be a localized thing to certain large cities

>> No.23614133

>>23614077
True dat. A company they all need but we all hate to use. Is there an index for companies like this?

>> No.23614153

>>23614133
NASDAQ

>> No.23614167

>>23614077
I haven't had the misfortune of having to go through using it but I can imagine that it would be irritating, I haven't heard of any fixes for all their security issues either

Do you think they give out discounts for bulk subscriptions to school districts in blue states?

>> No.23614183

>>23613557
Me again from earlier anon, ID has likely changed.

Oh anon how deceived you are. Stop worshipping money, it won't bring you salvation nor will you take it to the grave with you. Change before it is too late, there is a point where there is no return from denying Him and you will regret that choice if you deny Him to death. Money can only get you so much in this life but to want to kill yourself over failing to have more, come on anon you know better than that. Read the Holy Bible and really listen to what it has to say. Suicide isn't the answer, you will regret it if you do it. Believe in the Lord and be saved.

>> No.23614199

>>23613477
Mechanization started in the 1800s retard. Why would it take 100 years to start deviating?

>> No.23614203

>>23614000
I hold MA and that shit dumped my whole folio this week. Everything else was doing okayish even on thursday.

>> No.23614215

>>23614203
>>23614000
*Wednesday.

But I think this is the bottom on MA and V. They still make good money. No reason not to put some money in.

>> No.23614236

>>23614167
They "fixed" the security by giving fee end-to-end encryption to all users. It previously cost a subscription premium for encryption. What then is their revenue model? It's $15/mo for up to 100 people in a conference, also free if you meeting is less than an hour. How many hundreds of millions of people would Zoom need to subscribe to bring the P/E ratio down to 100? or even 200?

>> No.23614261

I bought jpm in the $90s and will continue to accumulate stock in it. Imagine not buying quality dividend paying companies that are trading well below fair value. Keep chasing pump & dumps and memeshit, smg.

>> No.23614284

>>23613493

She couldn’t turn that down. Her base loves free shit

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>>23614261
Nice try schlomo. You're gonna have to stop shorting silver if you want more profit.

>> No.23614327

What kills more people this winter? Chink flu or nigger riots?

>> No.23614329

We need to end the PDT rule and exempt capital gains on 25,000k of profit for singles and 50k for couples!

>> No.23614357

>>23614327
thermonuclear detonations around the South China Sea

>> No.23614380

>>23613933
>JPM .9 divvies
>IIPR 1.17 divvies
Cannastock has more value than JPfuckingMorgan

>> No.23614388

>>23614357
8.0 earthquake in southern ca then new madrid fault breaking north america in half

>> No.23614391

do divvyfags not realize their stocks lose value exactly equal to the dividend amount?

>> No.23614417

>>23614357
>>23614388
Stop anon, I can only get so erect....

>> No.23614419

>>23614388
If CA breaks off make sure to drag it to the arctic. .

>> No.23614436

>>23614391
You have to understand, divvy fags are holding those stocks for like 30-40 years. They don't care about the stock price short term.

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>>23614050
I know

>> No.23614473

>>23614419
>Plottwist: due to global warming, CA retains its tropical climate while everywhere else turns into a desert

>> No.23614476

>>23614436
A company can not afford to pay a dividend every quarter unless its business grew on average every quarter. The dividend is purely psychological, there is no fundamental difference between retaining the cash on the sheets and paying it out. The value of a security means you always effectively owned that cash no matter where it is.

>> No.23614506

>>23614476
I completely agree that dividends are a scam, I'm just telling you their mindset.

>> No.23614508

>>23613777
Holy trips

>> No.23614534

>>23614084
>likely close to mid six figures invested
>$16.7k
So this is the power of dividend investing
>>23614261
>buying bank stocks when interest rates are essentially nonexistent
Great strategy, enjoy lagging behind
>trading well below fair value
Actual retard logic. I guess INTC is a better buy than AMD or NVDA :^)

>> No.23614535

>>23613128
This desu

Aussies are upside de down and crazy

>> No.23614544

>>23614476
>you just dont have the capital to own enough stocks.
Is all I am reading

>> No.23614550

I can't decide to just hold my positions that I believe in or cash out now while my losses from the dump are still small.
I feel like the dump is far from over.

>> No.23614553

>>23614534
Do they really need interest rates now with the government literally stuffing them with dollars?

>> No.23614568

>>23614544
I am semi retired and my income is swing trading. Instead of letting a company invest in itself you'd rather have cash leak out of the company every quarter that you pay taxes on. The only thing the dividend structure does is prevent bad CEOs from robbing the bank.

>> No.23614570

>>23614550
you'd be right. but time in the market beats timing the market.

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>>23614550
Digits and you hold, else sell

>> No.23614592

>>23614568
IIPR is an REIT that pays 1.17 div. My goal is the own 10000 shares.. so far im at 6.

>> No.23614601

>>23614570
True. But I think for my peace of mind I'll start to let go of some positions.
>>23614575
she CUTE!

>> No.23614604

>>23614534
truth be told i dont focus on divs, but when you hold index funds it ends up paying some

>> No.23614614
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>>23614261
'ate tech
'ate growth
'ate gains
'ate china
'ate nothingburgers
luv burgers
luv me oil
luv me divvies
I can wait 20 years.
When I see big gains, I say to meself "WHOA NELLY, SLOW DOWN NOW"
Always a special place in me heart for the king of beverages
*sips*
SIMPLE AS
___________________________________
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Mall Security 1981-
All I need in my life is my hog, my dog, and my beer
-Sent from my iPhone

>> No.23614634

This is now a binary choice:

a) bullish through the election
b) bearish through the election

Where do you stand?

>> No.23614647

>>23614634
a)cannastocks
b)everyone else

>> No.23614650

>>23614634
Who could possibly be (a) at this point kek
Until one of them concedes and we know for sure who the next President is this shit is dumping

>> No.23614659

>>23614647
Any thoughts on HEXO and SNDL?

>> No.23614678

>>23614659
HEXO is being shilled on 4chans advertising, that's a no from me dog

>> No.23614686

>>23614650
>Who could possibly be (a) at this point kek
this is why line will go up

>> No.23614701

>>23614553
That money just stops them from failing. Higher interest rates would allow them to grow and expand, assuming that's even possible for American banks now
>>23614604
I hope you're at least buying MNST shares with those dividends
>>23614634
>Where do you stand?
SWBI and UVXY

>> No.23614706

>>23613628
∞

>> No.23614766

I buy bank stocks.
They crash

I buy etsy.
It crashes.

Am I doomed to wage slave forever?

>> No.23614786

>>23614766
nah you just never learn from your FOMO mistakes

>> No.23614795

>>23614766
Just don't sell
Stocks only go up
Simple as.

>> No.23614796

>>23614766
You should probably try buying into cruise-liner and airline stocks. pretty safe bet right now.

>> No.23614801
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consoles drop november 10-12

soon my gentlegamers, soon

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>>23614508
you ain't seen nothin

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>>23614766
I know that feel

>>23613604
No not really, how much does it usually yield and how high is the strike? Also expiration date?

>> No.23614823

>>23614796
>>23614795
>>23614786
Most of my losses were from options. I got to stop messing with them. Better off selling options, not buying them.

>> No.23614832

>>23614766
what day did you buy etsy and what was your justification?

>> No.23614843

>>23614823
I'm glad you learned you lesson. If you are going to gamble on options, just gamble on SPY options.

>> No.23614850

>>23613125
Who’s ymeself?

>> No.23614862

>>23614843
what's good about SPY options?

>> No.23614866

>>23614832
Day before earnings. My options were deep in the money and a month out. I summarized that earnings would be good and they were. I didn't think that the stock would tank for good earnings.

>>23614814
Your pic is me exactly. Went from 80k to 20k, then a few days ago 30k. Now this crap with etsy bringing me down.

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>>23614634
a) GME
b) GME

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guys i fuckin nailed the TWTR short

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also all my airline stocks were up really big today

>> No.23614917

>>23614659
stay away. did some DD. I dont like HEXO and SNDL cause they only canadian. I only do American based businesses

>> No.23614922

>>23614862
In my opinion they are much more binary than individual stock. Either the whole market goes up or it goes down. It's easier to predict.

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also I sure am glad I own TGTX

>> No.23614949

>>23614866
>I didn't think that the stock would tank for good earnings.

your measure of good is not the same as the MM's measure of good. not a bad play. sometimes line go down. sorry anon.

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>>23614814
This anon seems to have it figured out, You don't have to do spy but just anything with insane premiums like it. Right now with your 76k you could like 1.4k a week in premium, selling a weekly ATM put. You could do better but you also have to remember you will be stuck bagholding if it crashes so best to wait until after the election.

However with this strat doing it on stocks you have long term confidence in or something like spy because of course who isn't confident in the US of A will yield you a nice income. One intresting stock to wheel is nak I know people shill nak thinking it is going to moon, but you can be the one who sells covered atm calls to those gamblers and collect around 20 percent of your capital a month in premium. Just look around a bit.

This strat is called the wheel some anons shit on it cause supposedly the market outperforms it but that is a load of bull since anyone who has acutally ran the wheel on a high iv index will know you will rake in insane returns per year.

>> No.23615020

How do I stop myself from being terrified to trade with real money?
I want to get into this the right way and be smart but the amount of knowledge seems unattainable at this point.
I can't even figure out how to setup my TOS layout let alone even use the fucking thing.
I have a considerable amount of money I'd like to use to at least try the market but the statistics I read about people failing almost seem like theres no point.

>> No.23615030

>>23614801
i wouldn't put too much hope for the actual console release days

the real catalyst is Q3 which is December

>> No.23615048

>>23615020
put all your money in IIPR and be happy you did

>> No.23615068

How we feeling about tomorrow bros? I see a sell off coming

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>>23615068
The bull will not allow it.

>> No.23615081

>>23615020
Don't put money into the market you might need a month later. The money you invest should be money that even if you lost all of it, you would still be fine.

>> No.23615084

>>23615020
the risks are real. good luck.

>> No.23615085

>>23615020
money is like girls if you dont care about it they come running.

if you want to be high chance of success but blow up your account every once in a while check out selling options.
if you want to be low chance of success but poomp your account every once in a while buy options.
either way, rest assured that on a long enough time scale everyone's account goes up on average 7 ~ 8% per year

>> No.23615086

>>23615068
It'll be a larger continuation of the afterhours dump

>> No.23615090

am i making a mistake holding my GME or should i gtfo? i really thought we were going 20+

>> No.23615117

I think we are super fucked for the next little while. No one wants to put money into this market.

>> No.23615119

>>23615020
Budget exactly 1-2% of what you eventually intend to invest into a little experiment. Split half into a "pool" fund and the remaining half into buying the equivalent number of shares of SPY immediately. The pool fund will be money you use to try to buy and sell shares based on whatever memes or strategies you want to try out or whatever thesis you can cook up.
At the end of the month, compare the performance of the two parts. If you bump it up into splitting up 5% you can do the same thing but compare for several months.
Whatever the result is will be illuminating.

>> No.23615126

>>23615081
I don't really need any of it, but its enough that it would drastically help me retire if I didn't have it.

>>23615085
what about swing trading?
how about trading just stocks, no options? just straight up buy low sell high?

>> No.23615130

>>23614866
>I didn't think that the stock would tank for good earnings.
Priced in. Dumb money getting in while smart money is getting out.

>> No.23615140

>>23614954
selling CSPs seems like a zero-sum game or even a huge loss. Let's say you have a 80% win rate with selling them, but then one rogue wave tanks the stock and you get assigned. You just lost all that premium you sold and maybe even more, like if you were doing this strat back in March.

>> No.23615153

>>23615090
anytime you don't feel comfortable of a position, trim your position

sucks to miss out on selling at $15 but you should still be in the green right now i assume

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Sleepy?

>> No.23615157

>>23615090
underlying theory has not changed
if you believe in the thesis before than there is no reason really to change it now.

if you just fomod in without understanding the play then I could see you being nervous.

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>>23613777
Godly trips checked

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>>23615068
yeah

red day inc

AMZN was the signal
GOOGL pump is fake news, I should short it tomorrow honestly but thats a dangerous game waiting and praying for the government to do some anti trust shit. Its not a comfortable situation to be in and takes patience.

>> No.23615165

>>23615157
coronavirus has changed. retail is fukt.

>> No.23615166

>>23615126
If that's the case just don't fucking sell when things get tough. Unless you are trading penny shits, almost all stocks long term go up.

>> No.23615182

>>23614866
Thats a big drop. Im crabbing between low 70s to low 80s. Was higher that that before the plummet in June when i shouldve sold but didnt. Am considering just closing all positions except for long term buy calls i have. All this effort only to be up 3k in a 3 month period isn't worth all the effort.

>>23614954
I remmeber that anon. Except he got a great deal on SOXL like low to mid 100s when stuff was heavily down. Now is a different story. SPY don't look too bad but it seems heavily weighted in favor of Apple. Not touching NAK far too high risk, compared to holding SPY.

>> No.23615199

>>23613029
Tcnnf?

>> No.23615201

>>23614866
At this point I feel like any good news about any of these companies is priced in which is why so many companies have had good earnings but shit the bed after.

>> No.23615202

>>23615165
once GME is done with their reset, just check if they're selling PC parts in-store

they'll count as an essential service then

>> No.23615205

>>23615119
>>23615166
thank you for the advice. I appreciate it a lot.

>> No.23615216

>>23615140
That's my biggest issue with it. I need a good enough reward that I wont be obilerated like i was with credit spreads in 1 week, as that one rich anon was recommending months back. Idk if he blew up his account as i havent seen him but he seemed discontent with his huge weekly gains and wanted more. I think this was before the plummet in aug/sep

>> No.23615222

>>23615165
i dont know much about the status of corona in the US desu.
here in tokyo life is peaceful, as always.

>> No.23615224

Help I have only 600 left to my name what do I put it all in to get to 1000 at least. I don't have a job and need to pay my rent.

>> No.23615237

>>23615224

LCi...puts

>> No.23615238

>>23615224
this is some stupid shit

>> No.23615246

>>23615222
Here in the states the plebs pretend to care about it while the news pretends it's a big deal.

>> No.23615250

>>23614949
Hmm Pinterest gained 30% from a 300% EPS beat but Twitter lost 20% on a similar amount? I try not participate in conspiracy theories but I think these guys are just picking winners and losers ahead of time

>> No.23615251

>>23615224
nothing anyone tells you is going to guarantee shit

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Do I feel like a have a fool proof plan to make stable income down the road. I need a richfag to check my work.
>buy 100 shares of SPY
>sell weekly covered calls a dollar or two above current prices
>if it expires otm you make money off of theta, if it gets assigned you made $100-200 off the contract.
>if it expires otm right another contract $1-2 above current prices, if it gets assigned wait for a dip and buy 100 shares of SPY again
>rinse and repeat.
Would this work?

>> No.23615270

>>23615250

You’d best start believing in conspiracy theories missy. You’re in one.

>> No.23615285

>>23615157
what is the theory? i expected people would buy consoles on release, this news would naturally cause the price to rise on news hype

>> No.23615287

>>23615250
pro tip: read more than the headlines

a little research will tell you why twitter is down AH

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Reminder to use this thread to recycle.

>>23613038
>>23613038
>>23613038
>>23613038

>> No.23615304

>>23615224
all in on NIO.

>> No.23615333

HOW DO I GET RICH AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH IM SO POOR STOCKS ARENT GOING TO DO FUCKING SHIT ITS A FUCKING MIRACLE TO DOUBLE YOUR MONEY IN 2 YEARS AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

if i knew about stocks years ago i would of just bought obvious shit like amazon apple and microsoft and it would of fucking worked and now they already mooned FUCKING FUCK

>> No.23615336

>>23615266
>if it gets assigned wait for a dip and buy 100 shares of SPY again
write puts with the cash

>> No.23615343

>>23615304
lol wtf all the memes here keep mooning. MAKE ANOTHER MEME

>> No.23615355

>>23615333
>if i knew about stocks years ago i would of just bought obvious shit like amazon apple and microsoft
lol

yeah and i would also buy bitcoins with a mortgage

that mentality is so retarded, ngmi if you're not forward thinking and looking for the next opportunity
but yeah just keep dwelling on missed opportunities that you would have never jumped in

>> No.23615376

>>23615336
Good point actually

>> No.23615441

>>23614391

Well yeah, but stock price goes up as company generates new money so it evens out.

>> No.23615485

>>23615085

>either way, rest assured that on a long enough time scale everyone's account goes up on average 7 ~ 8% per year

not true if you actively try to time the market or stock pick.

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I really wish vtuber would go public. In the next 10 years there will be an exponential increase in average men incapable of finding a mate due to societal degradation. It's guaranteed money.

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>> No.23615549

>>23615090
The entire market is down, bro

>> No.23615565

>>23615549
someone tell Cohen to sell his AAPL shares and buy half of GME with the money

>> No.23615566

>>23615549
im only supposed to make money never lose it though

>> No.23615570

>>23613549
Heroin, meth and ketamine all together are better and there’s a russian roulette type excitement because you never know when you’ll inevitably overdose.

>> No.23615582

>>23615570

heroin and K mixed together will likely fucking kill you. the meth might keep you alive if you add it as a third wheel.

>> No.23615664

>>23615582
It was my daily habit for years. Meth in the day, k at night, heroin all the time. I’ve been sober now for almost ten years but it took me somehow getting third degree burns all over my right hand and arm to quit. Still don’t know how it happened lol.

>> No.23615695

>>23615582
>>23615664
I should add that you’re absolutely right and I can’t believe I’m still alive. After I got sober I had two 30+ft falls rock climbing and never even got hurt. I feel like I must be on earth for a purpose.

>> No.23615707

>>23615565
Cohen knows a dog turd when he sees one

>> No.23615710

Can GME be green like it used to be on red days?

>> No.23615768

is it possible to run a never-ending stop loss?
Like if I bought 500 of whatever stock that kept going up but if it dipped 10% down from wherever it was, it would sell?

>> No.23615802

>>23615710
It will never be green again

>> No.23615852

>>23615768
Yes it's called a trailing stop loss. Most brokers allow you to set one based on percentage.

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bloody hell I need HSY and TR to rise

>> No.23615879

>>23615710
>blockbuster 2.0

>> No.23616013

>>23615165
nah cuz trump is gonna landslide (already is) and he said no more lockdowns

>> No.23616063

>>23613029
why did you put an image of a nigger in the OP?
never make a thread ever again you fucking faggot.

>> No.23616107

>>23615068
huge red day, minimum -1000 dow for example. wouldn't be surprise to see circuit breakers trigger. a major, MAJOR US tech bubble is popping, which will affect all markets.

>> No.23616116

Chances this market correction turns into full blown bobo lair?

>> No.23616157

>>23616116
100%. remainder of the year will be abysmal for bulls

>> No.23616210

futures is actually running to the 11000 line.

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Friendly reminder to all GME fags, it will fall with the market so be careful!

>> No.23616274

>>23614199
Because the world war accelerated the innovation of technology.

>> No.23616301

>>23616274
and population control

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futures are starting to look based

>> No.23616822

Been holding this all week and it’ll finally be it’s time to shine today . Hopefully everyone bought puts, SQQQ, or UVXY because I’ve shipped it all week

>> No.23616945

>hes literally going to fall for the perma bear doomer meme
buy the dip faggot and then buy it again next week and then hold

>> No.23617121

you have GOT to be kidding me
FUTURES
THE EARNINGS ALL BEAT
WHY ARE YOU RED
fucking stock niggers man

>> No.23617176

>>23614476
>The value of a security means you always effectively owned that cash no matter where it is
Then it might as well be in my pocket, eh?

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GME will short squeeze to >55

>> No.23617283

>>23617178
No one is buying either

>> No.23617421

>>23615165
Coronavirus will be BTFOd by February and everything will resume.

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wtf did Peter Schiff mean by this?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qsLJSdbIJcQ

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>> No.23618430

>>23617972
stop asking questions goy

>> No.23618513

Wtf happened to $OSTK on thursday?

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Ahh...its gonna be a loooong, looong christmas...

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23618846

When is this company going to stop fucking around and start building cute robot maid gfs?

>> No.23618896

You know most people are bagholding because the thread is so slow today.

>> No.23618948

>>23618896
There are two threads. We should make a third one.

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23618991

do I short oil with a x40 leverage?

>> No.23619006

im scared of trump losing he's all i have i lost so much money

>> No.23619008

>>23618846
>start building cute robot maid gfs
>bends the knee and forced to make them uglier due to having "unrealistic appearances" which harms "women"
You fucking know it's going to happen.

>> No.23619199

>>23618991
CFDs.

>> No.23619638

How does one go about choosing a put strike price and expiry. Wouldn't IV crush your put price...