Wageslave

[Anonymous No.23542011]

Hey biz whats your favorite drug to get through a day of wagecucking?

I am currently on 200mg caffeine and nicotine from dipping tobacco, yet it still feels unbearable.

[Anonymous No.23542132]

>>23542011
I don’t like drugs or alcohol.
I rather like to go through life not numb so I can feel the pain that I experience in my day to day life.
It motivate me to get better, because i don’t want to feel bad the next day.
Honesty, i don’t even use painkillers and I never did before (after going to dentist, or breaking my leg) the only time I gonna use painkillers is if I get a terminal illness and destined to die In few weeks

[Anonymous No.23542169]

>>23542132
shut the fuck up nerd

[Anonymous No.23542205]

>>23542132
I respect you

[Anonymous No.23542511]

>>23542169
>>23542205
Kek
This board is very diverse in its opinion
I respect freedom of speech

[Anonymous No.23542689]

>>23542011
Add some nootropics like adranafil and phenibut maybe some modafinil and gold kratom capsules

[Anonymous No.23542807]

>>23542011
Smoking weed all day sometimes mixed with green tea sometimes with alcohol.

[Anonymous No.23542906]

>>23542132
Yes you literally did if you broke a leg. There is no ER physician on earth who would give traction without painkiller.

[Anonymous No.23542939]

>>23542906
You fucking absolute retard.
I said pain that can construct me to get better, not a pain that is disable me from fixing thing.
Hence when I broke my leg, the surgeon administrated pain killer to do the surgery, but I didn’t take any painkiller on my own when I came back home.
Despite having prescription and literal opioid painkiller available to me.
I don’t like to be dependent and I never will

[Anonymous No.23542947]

>>23542906
And ofcourse, during denta surgery anesthesia is admistrated.
But after that, I don’t take one painkiller.
Hell, even before surgery, despite being in pain, I never took one.

[Anonymous No.23542948]

>>23542011
Caffeine, weed and adderall.

[Anonymous No.23542958]

>>23542011
Vyvanse.

[Anonymous No.23542993]

>>23542132
>terminal illness will kill you
Ngmi

[Anonymous No.23543061]

I mostly take coffee and weed (once per week at most). I started getting anxiety attacks as of lately which led me to the hospital. There they made me take Xanax (only took half a pill because I'm weary of benzos) and it makes the acute symptoms go away at least. I don't know bros, I have a pretty good wage slave job but I just want to invest money and live off passive income, This life is not for me. Is 10.000€ enough to start something interesting?

[Anonymous No.23543062]

>>23542011
>>23542169
>>23542205
Pic related is what I absolute despise.
Why use weed to kill the symptoms (anxiety) instead of letting anxiety be out and motivate you to find the core reason for your anxiety and hopefully fix it?
Unfortunately many people don’t want to face their issues and instead they take cbd

[Anonymous No.23543086]

>>23542011
Checked,
Also depends what your job is. If you're a manual labour fag then weed is usually pretty good, personally if you need to use your brain st all stick off the drugs, they'll make you stupid and lose motivation. If you had your job work harder to get one you will like

[Anonymous No.23543111]

>>23543062
based af.
Cure the problem not the symptom

[Anonymous No.23543150]

>>23543062
Some people are chronically anxious. No matter how comfy they are, they just feel anxiety. Obviously some retards take it just because their chocolate-flavored onions drink is not sourced from local and organic companies, however we cannot deny it's usefulness for people with actual problems

[Anonymous No.23543199]

>>23543062
I don't do weed or other inhibitory drugs for that reason. But if you are unlucky (or just make bad decisions) you can end uo with anxiety so severe that it cripples the rest of your life, leading to a downward spiral into hell. People using meds or weed in low doses to break such a cycle and change things for the better are good in my book

[Anonymous No.23543250]

>>23543150
I know and I interacted with such people.
I knew a girl who would get social anxiety so much so that she would crawl around in fear (literally shaking , losing her balance)
Yes she had pills, because she couldn’t do anything about it.
Yet this same girl would take aspirin and other pain killers for having slightest head aches.
So here is what I mean.
Take pills for thing that you can’t EVER FIX (no underlying condition) but don’t take pills for things that you already know the reasoning behind them (headaches usually bullshit reasons, for her it was mix of this, and lack of sleep (staying up) but yet she tried to kill the symptoms with pills

[Anonymous No.23543277]

>>23542011
favorite drug is LOKI because it makes me feel better than garbage alcohol and cancery cigarettes

[Anonymous No.23543295]

>>23542011
>dipping tobacco
this will cause you mouth cance. Just stop it faggot

[Anonymous No.23543302]

>>23543199
Well ye, just like a surgeon using a painkiller before surgery I am ok to use things that can ease your transition to a better life.
But in my life, I rarely see this sort of things.
All I see is that people drink and do drugs to either kill their sadness, or elevate themselves up forcefully and make themselves happy.
Killing the symptoms over and over again, instead of fixing or at least recognizing the underlying issue.
Most of these people don’t even know what is wrong underneath

[Anonymous No.23543309]

>>23542011
mouth cancer*

[Anonymous No.23543316]

>>23542993
Kek

[Anonymous No.23543328]

>>23542132
>never did before (after going to dentist, or breaking my leg)
Didn't if feel very painful?

[Anonymous No.23543331]

>>23542011
Unironically a low dose of xanax <2mg will make the days fucking fly by.
Its addicting though and can ruin your life so only ever do it short term.

[Anonymous No.23543338]

>>23542993
explain how you avoid terminal illness

[Anonymous No.23543344]

>>23542169
Lol absolutely unequivocally based.

[Anonymous No.23543355]

>>23542939
>Despite having prescription
DIdn't you feel pain?

[Anonymous No.23543367]

>>23542948
>weed and adderall
mixing the 2 is it cool feeling?

[Anonymous No.23543382]

thanks for making my big pharma stocks nice and meaty

[Anonymous No.23543389]

>>23543367
Not as good as mixing xanax and adderall. Ive done both multiple times.

You have gone full druggy though if you mix xanax and adderall

[Anonymous No.23543392]

>>23543061
>weary of benzos
doesn't make xanax feel sleepy?

[Anonymous No.23543408]

>>23543355
I do.
Actually when I had my dental surgery, it resulted in me being extremity weak for a week.
But I take the pain.
I mean the pain is not gonna linger for ever.
I did what I needed to do (surgery) in order to fix the underlying issue (broken leg, etc) so all I need to do is wait, and the pain will go away.
Honesty. The way I see it, we are going to go soma style soon

[Anonymous No.23543428]

>>23543150
WEED VS XANAX to cure social anxiety simptoms
which one is better?

[Anonymous No.23543449]

>>23543328
It does.
Again, I don’t want to take things when I actually know what’s the issue is.
Ok so I have a broken leg.
What’s the fix? Surgery.
Done. I don’t like to take painkillers when I know that this pain will go away soon.
Unless that the end result is death, and at that point I will ABSOLUTELY take painkillers, because when I die , assuming there is no after life, I won’t feel anything ever again, and I don’t want to go out with excruciating pain

[Anonymous No.23543473]

>>23543150
That's me.
I now use benzos. Weed just makes someone lazy. And the social stigma if someone sees/smells you is worse than leaving yet another sweat stain on a pleather chair.

[Anonymous No.23543495]

>>23543473
Wel that’s good in my book.
You know there is NOTHING else you can do.
So that’s the only thing you really can do.

[Anonymous No.23543559]

>>23543392
I probably took 0.25mg (I think it was the 0.5mg pill), that only relieved the symptoms without further psychoactive effects

>>23543428
XANAX is never a long-term solution, it will fock you up pretty hard so I wouldn't even consider it. As for Weed just try and see if it works for you, I feel comfier when under it at least

>>23543473
Weed doesn't make people lazy. Lazy people use weed, it's very different. Also I wouldn't count use cases where first timers are teenagers, people who take weed before the brain is fully developed already had problems before starting with drugs

[Anonymous No.23543751]

>>23543428
For social anxiety: Stop masturbating completely and take Tongkat Ali mixed with Fenugreek. Add Shilajit for a extra testosterone boost, take every morning with tea on empty stomach.

For brain fog: Lions mane mushroom, curumine extract. Bonus if you can get your hands on some psilocybin, micro dosage. Also cures depression. Also look into resveratrol.

For energy: 100-200mg of caffeine paired with L-theanine. IF you are really burned out, try and drink some Ma huang tea. Bonus; add 15g of bee pollen to your breakfast. Korean ginseng extract also works.

For Immunity: Turkey tail mushroom + Green Vibrance, daily. Bonus; IF you feel like you are getting sick, try a teaspoon of astragalus extract.

You're welcome.

[Anonymous No.23543760]

Modafinil is safe and can make the days go quicker, and make you a lot more productive.

[Anonymous No.23543765]

This board is maximum larp, its just NEETs losing their neetbux on shitcoins.

[Anonymous No.23543776]

>>23543760
If you take modafinil take it with Choline supplements, can't stress this enough. You can get a god tier migraine if not.

[Anonymous No.23543797]

CBD

Waiting for mine to arrive. I was back to work this week and had a few instances of idiots on the road. dammit I hate people. with CBD Id give less fucks

[Anonymous No.23543859]

>>23543797
I tried this but I didn't notice anything with CBD.

[Anonymous No.23543869]

>>23543776
I'll look into it, I currently stack modafinil with caffeine and L-Theanine each day, but yeah the headaches do come once it starts to wear off.

[Anonymous No.23543879]

>be me
>smoke weed all day everyday
>jack off/bang gf multiple times a day
>high 6 figures in crypto and stocks
>highly productive and run my own buisness
Cope is cope losers. Take responsibility for your own life and don't let others tell you what to do, there is no magic pill or one size fits all solution

[Anonymous No.23543896]

>>23542011
Those are hardly drugs you fucking poser

[Anonymous No.23543907]

>>23543751
>Lions mane mushroom
Seems pretty cool, I'll give it a shot, thanks anon

[Anonymous No.23543928]

>>23543879
You had a stroke of luck anon, the thing about luck is that not everyone gets it no matter what they do.

[Anonymous No.23543935]

>>23543061
No it’s not enough
10k won’t get you far in Europe's overpriced real estate cities

[Anonymous No.23543943]

>>23542169
urgent call for you sir

[Anonymous No.23543964]

>>23543935
What about doing risky investments (CFD's, options, forex... I can loose those 10k is required)

[Anonymous No.23543980]

26 solid years of alcoholism, topped up with benzos, opiates, heroin, crack and occasional lysergic and dmt. im a real-deal chronic addict. ama. but dont necessarily expect a response because ive had 14x50mg tramadol since 6am and im on my fourth pint of K cider.

[Anonymous No.23543986]

>>23542011
Speed now and then, not too much. Cacao powder with my protein shakes sort me right out too.

[Anonymous No.23543989]

>>23543928
Absolutely I've been fortunate, you have to be to get where I am, or at the very least avoid being unfortunate.
My main point is people need to experiment to find what habits hinder or help them and not believe blanket statements. For example, I rarely drink because it fucks me up and makes me feel foggy for days. But some extremely brilliant people were lifelong alchoholics. For some weed/masturbation is a energy drain, but that doesn't mean its the same for everyone

[Anonymous No.23544002]

>>23543964
Get educated, start paper trading after a strict set of rules, use leverage to maximize your profits

[Anonymous No.23544067]

>>23542011
KETAMINE and OPIUM is the answer

[Anonymous No.23544078]

>>23543751
Who are you? a scientisr? a chemist? a wizard?

[Anonymous No.23544090]

>>23543989
I personally think that drugs/masturbation addictions are just reflections of lack of motivation on people. Sure, that person is addicted to weed and smokes it errryday forever, however it's likely that person lacked motivation in the first place because lack of guidance or simply because he's depressed and he doesn't know it. Mental health is neglected on our society quite often and some "quirky" personality trait such as being lazy or apathetic can be explained by mental issues not treated. For me at least when I feel the lows of the depression kicking in I just don't want to do anything, just loose all kind of thought because it's tiring.

I just want to recommend the anons watching this that they avoid drugs with long-term addictions such as Xanax, opioids and the like, they just deepen the hole of misery. The only way to get out of a depression is actively working on yourself and get medical help if possible


>>23544002
Leverage seems to be the only way to get some kind of profit in a reasonable amount of time, yes

[Anonymous No.23544092]

Despite having a very seemingly depressing life at times (Mother died of cancer, dead-end job working 12 hours a day) I never felt the need to do drugs, in fact, I've never even felt depressed or sad. Something is wrong with me.

[Anonymous No.23544102]

>>23544078
Technically all of them

[Anonymous No.23544141]

>>23542947
You don't need painkillers for a broken leg anyways you nancy

[Anonymous No.23544169]

>>23544092
It means you're retarded.

[Anonymous No.23544172]

>>23542011
the answer is to stay sober during weekdays, so that you can enjoy your drugs more on the weekends.

[Anonymous No.23544180]

>>23543328
he's a big guy

[Anonymous No.23544188]

>>23543295
Will stop its simply a mean to end smoking

[Anonymous No.23544205]

>>23544141
That’s what I am saying.

[Anonymous No.23544207]

>>23542132
Same.

[Anonymous No.23544223]

>>23543751
I need something to feel energetic which helps me cope with very unfortunate life desicions. Only solution is money and that means more time and endure more pain

[Anonymous No.23544249]

>>23543408
>But I take the pain
don't you find it stressful an stupid?

[Anonymous No.23544275]

>>23543751
>Tongkat Ali mixed with Fenugreek
meme

[Anonymous No.23544277]

>>23542132
drugs and alcohol aren't all things that numb you, they put you in a different state of mind. Drugs that numb you would be more like Opioids or Benzos.
Still though, if drugs aren't your thing fair enough, you don't need to be told what to enjoy.

[Anonymous No.23544288]

>>23544207
Glad I am not alone.
When I was in military I used to sell my pain killers to pussy soldiers who felt a bit of pain.
I made good money ofF them.

[Anonymous No.23544375]

>>23544275
>>23543751
how can I stop masturbating if I take something to boost my testosterone?
I will get crazy and my brain implode

[Anonymous No.23544415]

>>23544249
No, because I know it’s going to diminish on it’s own.
It’s actually liberating and relaxing knowing that day by day, pain goes away, because you did what you needed to do
>>23544277
People usually take alcohol to kill their boredom or sadness or kill their inhibitions.
Seems to me they are numbing their pain literally
Again, I don’t mind people do all these, my opinion is that doing this is akin to killing the symptoms, instead of looking at the real elephant in the room, which causing all these symptoms to begin with

[Anonymous No.23544479]

>>23544415
Sometimes the elephant is bigger than the room. Or at least it seems to be.

That’s when people cure the symptoms

[Anonymous No.23544514]

>>23544275
Not at all, but you need potent high quality extract. Somewhere in the lines of 200:1, also stay away from China wares, its polluted with heavy metals and other nasty shit.

>>23544375
If you can control your urge and force yourself away from porn, the energy will naturally transfer into new found motivation. Often to things that you never even considered before, over time the urge will also go away. Over all you will become more stable and steadfast. For example when you imply that your brain will "explode and you will get crazy" that could indicate lower testosterone levels, and that you are in the middle of a porn addiction = dopamine addiction, very stressful for the brain over longer periods of time.

The thing is that you don't necessarily get more horny out of higher testosterone levels, of course it's the norm but not necessarily as it is a psychological response. Increased emotional stability, dedication, new found creativity and urges to change your life/lifestyle is very common in the transition however. It all depends on the person and several underlying causes.

[Anonymous No.23544523]

>>23544415
I get what you mean, and in some people I can definitely see the escapism aspect of alcohol. It is a drug, just one that's been socially acceptable forever, but one that has the potential for serious harm. In my case I drink fairly regularly, probably once every week, but always do so in a controlled way. I don't feel any relief of sadness or boredom while drinking, I never think to drink alone, and have no issues with calling it quits. It's just an enjoyable way of socialising for me.
I do agree with your point that people often use drugs as a way of killing the symptoms of their issues rather than dealing with the root, but I wouldn't say that's the case for everyone.

[Anonymous No.23544577]

>>23542939
Lol your mind is so weak and pathetic you would become dependent on one prescription of pain killers. Must suck.

[Anonymous No.23544588]

>>23544375
don't do no-fap. it's one of the biggest lies on the internet and you will get prostate cancer when you get older.

[Anonymous No.23544617]

>>23542011
>WAGESLAVING IS BETTER THAN NEETING
>so anyway what narcotics do you have to dilute your mind with to make it through the day
You wageslaves I will never understand

[Anonymous No.23544648]

>>23544514
>porn
I don't jerk off to porn, just by my immagination, but yes I am 100% addicted to masturbating and that dopamine release, but I don't think I will try that testo stuff because it scares me playing with testosterone levels without any knowledge

[Anonymous No.23544655]

>>23544617
neet here, but certain drugs actually enhance your mind, especially psychedelics.

[Anonymous No.23544659]

>>23542011
kratom

[Anonymous No.23544662]

>>23544588
Right...

On another note, go research the taoist ejaculation frequency. It's the most superior and healthy way to do it as a man. Everything regarding "go masturbate several times a day, for years, it will be fine" is a psyop and part of modern psychological warfare against young western men.

[Anonymous No.23544695]

>>23544662
Thinking having a wank is even worth researching or spazzing this hard over is just proof you never get pussy and ngmi.

[Anonymous No.23544705]

Caffeine, piracetam and ritalin - god combo. Wine and Phenibut in the evenings to calm the mind down, and melatonin to sleep.

[Anonymous No.23544718]

>>23543062

Because some people who do that have a better quality of life than the people who do what you do. The result is important, not how you get there (providing you keep yourself relatively healthy).

When you're 20, you have another 10 years before your body starts to decline. You have another 20 years after that before your body and mind have noticeably degraded. Life is short, and the period of time you have before old age reduces your quality of life is even shorter still. It's over in the blink of an eye, and then you die.

People using your method could easily waste the best years of their life dealing with life-crippling shit, and then by the time they solve it they've become old. Or (in most cases) they fail to solve it and then they've wasted their best years for nothing. And you only get one life.

I'm a strong advocate for using whatever tools are available to improve your quality of life, particularly when you're young so you can really enjoy those peak years. A LOT of old people have a lot of regrets about not doing that. However, you have to use these tools in moderation and keep yourself healthy, as older age is still well worth living, and it's much more enjoyable without major health issues.

And no, some things in life you can't just fix. Some are down to raw chemical imbalances in the brain (such as some forms of depression). If you think any differently, you have no idea what you're talking about, or you're under 20 years old, or both.

[Anonymous No.23544727]

>>23544662
>"a psyop and part of modern psychological warfare against young western men."
you actually expect someone to take you seriously, other than braindead /pol/tards, if you type cringe shit like this?

[Anonymous No.23544805]

>>23544648
For my part (soon 29 years old) I noticed my levels started to dip drastically around 1 year ago. As most people I also have a fear of the unavoidable decay that age has on the body, so I research and test a lot of things.

Playing around with steroids is dangerous. Using herbs (enhanced by extraction) with a medical history of thousands of years often in asian medicine, is a pretty safe bet.

Unironically, all kinds of psychological and physical problems in males is related to lower testosterone levels. Don't forget that almost anything we consume in today's industrial society has been infused with estrogen for a more effective yield (meat, dairy etc). This causes problems, specially in males that is unheard of since we have never been in this situation health wise before. But DYOR.

[Anonymous No.23544906]

>>23544695
Enjoy decaying in peace while wasting away one of the bodies most expensive to make fluids. When you have sex, you release hormones that increases the body's natural production cycle of both sperm and testo. When masturbating to porn or imagination, this is not the case and you put a lot of stress to your internal system after years and years. You will age prematurely and your body will be weak.

Not going to spoonfed, it's your problem for not being educated.

>>23544727
The promotion of pornograpy and sex is a way to degenerate society and to destroy conservative and stable values. Even a brainlet knows this at this point. Now go back to watching hentai in peace.

[Anonymous No.23545034]

>>23544906
>Enjoy decaying in peace while wasting away one of the bodies most expensive to make fluids
this is why you store your cum in a cum jar
>The promotion of pornograpy and sex is a way to degenerate society and to destroy conservative and stable values. Even a brainlet knows this at this point.
don't care, society doesn't matter, if i could i would wipe out the entire human race. also degeneracy is fun. at least i am going through my one and only life on earth with pleasure instead of with a stick up my ass.

[Anonymous No.23545038]

>>23544523
ye i dont think you have an issue.
now if you start drinking anytime you have an issue, or start taking aspirin and painkillers then you are in downward spiral

[Anonymous No.23545065]

>>23544479
hopefully, or they just drop dead before that happens

[Anonymous No.23545074]

>>23544805

How to boost test without roids

[Anonymous No.23545113]

>>23544906
We've been jerking off for centuries. Monkeys do it. If it were so detrimental we would have evolved some mechanism to prevent it.
>not going to spoon
100% of the time if someone says this it means they can't back up their statement but want to appear aloof and knowledgeable

[Anonymous No.23545117]

>>23544718
>A LOT of old people have a lot of regrets about not doing that.
kek. thats a meme.
>ye lets just do drugs when you are young ye dude weed.
and then get a mush brain when you are old
>ye bro lets smoke, nictin is cool
and then get cancer and a lot of other shit when you are old
>ye bro drugs cool
ye look at opiod epidemic
>ye bro alcohol is ok
ye its fine, waste your money, fuck up your liver
that YOLO shit you advocating is the reason america is in debt.
thats the reason people cant think correctly.

[Anonymous No.23545143]

>>23544805
you seem a pretty smart anon, thank you for the advices

[Anonymous No.23545144]

>>23542011
I'm prescribed focalin. I prefer adderall but both work well for programming.

I need to take breaks to rest my brain otherwise It won't work as well.

Double edged sword

[Anonymous No.23545160]

>>23544223
Adderall

[Anonymous No.23545163]

I drink shitloads if Matcha. This shit has as much caffeine as coffee has, but the addition of l-teanine makes it truly a banger.

Of course I don't do all the ceremonial shit but just mix it with some hot blender in the blender and call it a day. Even faster than coffee because this doesn't need time to brew.

[Anonymous No.23545169]

>>23544906
Kek turbo virgin located.

[Anonymous No.23545183]

I drink shitloads of Matcha. This shit has as much caffeine as coffee has, but the addition of l-teanine makes it truly a banger.

Of course I don't do all the ceremonial shit but just mix it with some hot water in the blender and call it a day. Even faster than coffee because this doesn't need time to brew.

[Anonymous No.23545189]

>>23543389
Yeah thats my favorite.

But focalin and kpins are the same thing. My doctor prefers focalin to adderall. She was going to give me vyvanse but insurance said no because I hadn't tried adderall or focalin.

[Anonymous No.23545194]

>>23545074
Stop ejaculation without sex, completely (If you're hardcore about it and in on a real experiment)

Tongkat Ali, Fenugreek in Tea. Shilajit (High quality). Ashwagandha is interesting but not a favorite of mine. Horny goat weed is a good herb also, specially before going on a date or getting laid.

Avoid anything that has estrogen-like compounds inside of it. DYOR.

Wild Bee pollen, 15grams into your protein shake before work out. Train, run, move in any way.

Learn how to meditate in order to silence the mind, minimize stress and cortisol levels.

Be outside in the sun, as often as you can.

Balance your diet.

[Anonymous No.23545217]

>>23545113
Looks to me that my posts are 10x more informative than yours, great contribution to the thread btw. You proved your point.

>We've been jerking off for centuries. Monkeys do it.
I think you just answered your own question.

[Anonymous No.23545227]

>>23544577
>your mind is weak
>afraid of diminishing pain
No dude, I am strong enough to endure pain that can diminish on it’s own
You on the hand need to take pills because you are a Nancy

[Anonymous No.23545232]

>>23542011
If you want to cheat your way through life, amphetamines.

[Anonymous No.23545241]

>>23545169
I'll bet my entire folio that I'm more sexually active than you mate.

[Anonymous No.23545242]

>>23545113
>animals do shit, so should we as well
Monkey also eat their own shit and cum
Wanna do That too?

[Anonymous No.23545259]

>>23545113
>we make an evolutionary process to get out of it
Ye, we don’t eat shit anymore.
Infact we find it repulsive (99.99% of us)
So ..

[Anonymous No.23545306]

>>23545227
Yeah bro, you’re just so scared of how fucked your brain is that you endure more pain than the average person. Nothing to be proud of.

[Anonymous No.23545318]

>>23545306
K bro, keep paying money

[Anonymous No.23545333]

>>23545117
>everyone is from america

[Anonymous No.23545335]

>>23545241
Nah brah you spend all day researching masturbation pseudo-science, obviously preoccupied with some issues in your life you’re desperately trying to solve in a delusional way - no time for puss

[Anonymous No.23545355]

>>23545318
$30 for some pills when you get surgery once every few years must be a lot for you poor fag hahaha

[Anonymous No.23545444]

>>23545217
So your claim is our evolutionary advantage over monkeys is our ability to abstain from masturbation?
I see you've read my posts so you'll know that I'm not against no fap if people find that helpful but saying masturbation is inherently bad for everyone is just wrong

>>23545242 see >>23545259 so you agree with me? Animals that eat shit don't have negative effects from doing so. We've developed more sensitive stomaches, and subsequently evolved a distast for shit. Pretty basic really.

[Anonymous No.23545454]

>>23545355
>pay for 30$ drugs
>become a opioid crisis statistic like the rest of them
Nah bro
Keep taking drugs though.
Hopefully you drop

[Anonymous No.23545461]

>>23545232
Lol. Is it cheating?

[Anonymous No.23545471]

>>23545444
No dude.
I am pretty sure if you take shit away from them they would have less heath related casualty.

[Anonymous No.23545492]

Weed
'total war' preworkout when i have a headache
Caffeine

[Anonymous No.23545538]

This society and the entire ratrace wants you to squeeze out all of the productivity and creativity you could possibly have as fast as possible. At first this works and you get results. This is however unsustainable no matter what you do. The human body always reaches an equilibrium.

What you should aim for is a low-stress way to get by without any modifications. Your base state is actually optimal. Anything that requires you to strain above that for long periods is bad for you.

Since you realized you do not need to massively change or improve, you need to find a lifestyle where you can cruise at a comfortable level. The most important thing is to work from home if you absolutely have to work. The next thing is to do something with leverage. You need to leverage your time and effort. Every action you do needs to be amplified. The best way to leverage your effort and time is using computer/code. Choose a task/field where you can automate and outsource as much as possible. At one point you will not have to lift a finger to keep things running. You can apply the same principles to the rest of your life. I call this a synergistic lifestyle. Everything you do is leveraged to help you solve multiple problems at once.

Good luck anon.

[Anonymous No.23545574]

>>23545471
>pretty sure
Translation: i have no idea what im talking about and making up as I go
Our adversion to shit is quite literally an evolved trait. Barring a damaged or eccentric individual, any species that routinely eats feces clearly has no evolutionary pressure to avoid doing so.

[Anonymous No.23545591]

>>23545117

Well it's clear now you're in your early 20s at the most. Maybe a teenager. Makes more sense now.

It's not always what you take, but how much of it you take. People can smoke weed, drink or use painkillers in moderation and be EASILY as healthy as you are despite you taking nothing.

And even if they aren't as healthy, and maybe live a few years less, who the fuck cares? It's dumb as hell to make your overall quality of life and happiness worse just so you can spend a few extra years in old age not knowing what day it is and shitting into an adult diaper.

It sounds like you have absolutely no self control, and that you know within yourself that if you take anything, you'll be incapable of stopping and end up doing it in excess. Most people aren't like you though. I mean holy fuck, imagine not taking a few painkillers after breaking your leg because you're scared you'll become a junkie. That's peak weakness.

[Anonymous No.23545592]

>>23545454
>becoming a statistic off $30 of prescribed pain killers taken once every couple years
>only you
>not me or anyone with a functioning brain and half an ounce of will power

You’re clearly not very bright just remember that your irrational fear is more of a danger to you than you think.

[Anonymous No.23545640]

>>23545574
It’s not as simple as you make it to be.
A lot of “instinctive” shit that humans also do is dangerous to them as fuck and actually evolutionary retarded.
Altruism is specific one.
Altruism that we need to “help” poor people from a Africa or Middle East is just one of them.
Eating with hands is another one.
Touching your eye is another one.
Both are dangerous for humans as they can get sick easily.
So we provided guide line for them and produced hygienic products.
And these two methods prevented COUNTLESS deaths and boosted our population.
So no, not all evolutionary dumb and counterproductive things get weeded out.

[Anonymous No.23545663]

>>23545592
Kek
>will power
>against DRUGS
lol if you had a brain you knew that drugs and alcohol are not a natural stimulation for your brain
As I advices before, keep going and drop dead please

[Anonymous No.23545677]

>>23545194
>Horny goat weed is a good herb also
why?

[Anonymous No.23545717]

>>23543389
>Not as good as mixing xanax and adderall. Ive done both multiple times.
what does it happen? could you describe?

[Anonymous No.23545737]

>>23545663
Sobriety is for those too weak to do drugs.

I take 10 mg of adderall and drink coffee. If I didn’t, I probably wouldn’t be able to wageslave at all. I have severe ADHD which means I can’t really compete with others in financial marketplaces without being heavily strained. Working a 9-5 job is not for everyone.

I would live in the woods in an anarchoprimitive society if hot chicks were into it. Until then, I’m just going to wagie and maximize crypto gains.

[Anonymous No.23545738]

>>23545189
>Yeah thats my favorite.
what oes it happen mixing xanax and adderal?

[Anonymous No.23545760]

>>23545738
It’s a dangerous combination. If you’re mixing with adderall, switch to klonopin.

Xanax + Addie could lead to very bad decisions and death if alcohol is consumed.

[Anonymous No.23545804]

>>23545591
I don’t think people can take all these things in moderation so easily, anon. Moderation is fine until something happens. A break up, loss of a parent, etc. and we feel weak. If we retreat to certain addictive substances during these lows, we are at risk of developing dependency. Just regularly using some drugs in moderation can be fine for 5-10 years, if all things are considered, but after a while that break will occur.

[Anonymous No.23545824]

>>23544277
>drugs and alcohol aren't all things that numb you, they put you in a different state of mind
this

[Anonymous No.23545825]

>>23545804
Also there’s tons of LESS addictive and better drugs for treating depression.

Take some mushrooms and rail some ketamine. Take LSD. Don’t do addictive substances. You’re taking a risk with your life.

[Anonymous No.23545868]

>>23545737
Again, you took the drugs not because you are badass, but you looked at your underlying issue and realized that “drugs” are your only solution for your adhd.
All my posts are concerned with people who take drugs in order to “escspe” their issues not the ones who take them knowing that there is no other way

[Anonymous No.23545896]

>>23542011
Modafinil. Fucking wonders and low addiction potential
It makes me focus like a beast. Especially if you have meaningful work to get done. Not really good for wage cucking though. good for the entrepreneur

[Anonymous No.23545974]

>>23545591
>old age not knowing what day it is and shitting into an adult diaper.
Ye that’s happens to alcohol is and druggies not normal people.
Not in my family though.
So, you think escapism via drugs is cool? Cool mate. I don’t really care.
I still see it as coping and wanting to escape your issues that you have in life and inability to face your demons.
I am not Afraid of becoming junkie, I just don’t see it having good result on my brain, knowing that a drug is not suppose to be up there naturally.
I rather live a life relying on my own naturally producing pain killers than man made drugs

[Anonymous No.23546053]

>>23545640
Remember there has to be a viable alternative for selective pressure to work
Alturism is extremely beneficial because we're tribal creatures.
Eating with our hands is the only option on a evolutionary timescale
Idk what your on about with eye touching but people generally find this very unpleasant and dont do it. Though I'm not aware of any significantly negative outcomes from doing so.
However you can look to nature and see plenty of animals that do have internal mechanisms to encourage or discourage breeding based on seasonal and environmental cues, so the idea that evolution can influence sex if beneficial is supported

[Anonymous No.23546065]

>>23545804

Some people can't, and if they don't, then abstinence may be the best route for them. The vast majority of people though do manage. I mean the mere concept of having a couple of alcoholic drinks in social situations is a form of coping mechanism and millions do that every day without issue.

Even excessive/junk food is used in this way to make ourselves feel better than our baseline emotional state, and hundreds of millions of people do this without obesity issues.

Anyway, there's a fair argument that even some minor health issues arising from excessive consumption isn't always a bad thing. If you drink a little too much from the ages of 20-60, but it massively improves your quality of live and enjoyment during that time, and in exchange, you die at 75 instead of 80, and spend 5 years less with the pitfalls of old age, who really wins?

[Anonymous No.23546130]

>>23545974

If you live old enough, it happens to everyone. And the longer you live, the more likely it is to happen. And perhaps the worst thing is to be old, have your mental faculties, but be treated like a baby and require someone to dress you and wipe your ass.

You'll "cope" all the time. Maybe not with alcohol, drugs or weed, but with other things. When you eat junk food, or even watch a movie, you're firing up your reward pathways just like alcohol and drugs do. You're doing it to escape your baseline emotional state. You are no different. You've just chosen other ways to do it.

Face your demons and rely on your "naturally producing pain killers" if you like, but you'll probably end up having a notably worse quality of life with less pleasure compared to someone who uses certain tools responsibly. If you think that makes you win and they lose, then I don't know what to tell you.

[Anonymous No.23546188]

>>23546053
Altruism is a only beneficial in your tribe.
And that’s because you know they gonna help you.
However helping a dude in India to feed his family won’t EVER be beneficial to you and you spent your resources for not reason.
Extreme disadvantage to you
Eating with our hands resulted in a lot sickness and even though it made our population low (caused drath) our body didn’t produced better mechanism to counter bacterias.
We had to intervene with technology to prevent it.
Humans instinctively touch their eyes if they feel an itch around that area.
It’s a risky behavior that is dangerous because it allows viruses to move in.
Humans never got rid of this behavior nor boosted their immune system through evolutionary means.
You are right though. It wouldn’t matter as long as you can reproduce.
Hence disadvantage evolutionary shit, like eating shit and cum and piss stayed in populations, because they will still reproduce before they die because of these practices.
Same with humans

[Anonymous No.23546206]

>>23542011
The trifecta:
Caffeine
Nicotine
Amphetamine

[Anonymous No.23546226]

>>23542011
>ruining your brain chemistry so you wage harder for shekelstein
never going to make it.

[Anonymous No.23546275]

Once in a great while I’ll do some ketamine microdosing with a nasal spray I made. It helps when I feel like actually blowing my brains out mid-shift.

[Anonymous No.23546306]

>>23546130
>studying neuro science
>get lectured about reward pathways
I know dude.
But movies and earthing delicious food is not like taking drugs
>movies, experiences that you CAN fee naturally shown to you
No issue there
>food delicious
So what? That’s a REWARD, because your body think so
However drugs are literlly compunds that block your neurotransmitters and causing your natural opioids stay inside and effect more neurons
I see ALOT OF PEOPLE who lost because they couldn’t rely on their own body and succumb to drugs
Kek I see it every day in the city, in school and in bars
I don’t see how you use something that you use SPECIFICALLY to give you unnatural pleasure responsibly
If you do, please write a paper, because a lot of neuroscientists still don’t know how is that possible
You probably cracked a code

[Anonymous No.23546452]

>>23546188
>viable alternative
>evolutionary timescale

[Anonymous No.23546488]

>>23546306

Considering that you can't spell neuroscience properly, I have doubts you're studying neuroscience.

> But movies and earthing delicious food is not like taking drugs

Why not? Weed is a plant. What's the difference between eating that or eating normal types of food?

Shows and movies on TV are man made. TV screens are man made. The concept of watching moving images on a screen is man made. They are not natural. Why are they okay while consuming a natural plant isn't?

Of course lots of people spiral out of control using certain things. And they should be very careful and possibly abstain entirely. However, many people also enjoy things in moderation with zero, or near zero, negative impacts. And in fact, many who use such things enjoy their life more overall.

You seem to have a lot of negative bias in your perspective. Yes, you may see problems, but for every person you see in a bad state, there are hundreds of others who use certain fixes without any issue - even if it's something as simple as enjoying a few beers with friends on a weekend.

My view? Enjoy your life, and don't force yourself to be miserable just to extend your misery for a few extra years of a life you aren't enjoying.

[Anonymous No.23546688]

>>23545194
Thank you fren I will do this
Just bought all the supplements

[Anonymous No.23546762]

>>23546488
>separating words
>spelling it wrong
Kek ok
See you don’t get this
Drugs will go into your brain, and amplify your NATURALLY occurring neurotransmitters, by either blocking the recapture process or making them last longer between synapses
That’s not like movies or food, that just exite your brain to produce more of those transmitters.
However those neuro transmitters life span is normal and they recaptured without delay
Drugs however fuck up that process
Go ahead if you can actually take it responsibly (it’s a meme honesty)

[Anonymous No.23547047]

>>23546688
Best of luck to you fren, start out slowly before nuking everything on day 1. Very important!

This is because you will notice if there are any side effects, different people react differently. I handle everything just great except for Ashwagandha, gets me moody in a bad way.

So try everything separately, if all is well, try adding another one to the mix. Some notice effects just after a few days, some within 1-2 weeks.

Some people also recommend dosing in cycles, not to build a tolerance. For example, Cycle 1: 7 days on (take Tongkat Ali), then 4 days off (do not take). Cycle 2: 10 days on (take Tongkat Ali) then 5 days off (do not take)

Try out what is best for you! Also regarding the Bee pollen, start SLOW with only 5g a day, then slowly add to the mix until you reach 15g. A lot of people experience a little nausea in the beginning, but it will go away after a few days.

I think you are set. All the best to you.

[Anonymous No.23547133]

>>23546306
Sugar actually is a drug that works on dopamine receptors. It’s why so many Americans diet and then spiral back into being fat the second they eat sugar and we see things like “big is beautiful” as a movement.

If you think you’re avoiding drugs just by not doing illicit substances, you’re quite naive.

[Anonymous No.23547359]

>>23547133
Does it also increase life span of dopamine and decrease dopamine recapture?
I am certain it is not.
However, knowing that people didn’t evolve to take sucrose, I think body is not able to handle its take.
That’s why me personally; rely on fructose (fruit sugars)(dates grapes etc)
Big is beautiful is a movement from desperate fatties trying to have a voice which is retarded

[Anonymous No.23547379]

>>23542132
I have a similar story where I didn't use drugs at a doctors visit and I will never make that mistake again. I got a buckethandle tear on my meniscus and got surgery to fix it (after a month of being on crutches while waiting for surgery so my leg was atrophied). After the surgery, you are supposed to put weight on it and bend it normally and get it back into shape (the meniscus was removed, not repaired). While I did that, my leg couldn't straighten 100%, so they needed to put it in a cast (at risk of having another surgery to straighten it). The doctor offered local anaesthetic (ie a needle in my knee) to numb the pain of straightening it but being terrified of needles, I "powered" through it, so the nurses and I were slowly straightening my knee. After about 10 minutes, the doctor (who forgot that I didn't take the anaesthetic because everyone does) goes "It's not straight yet? Here you go" and pushes down on my knee with a lot of force. It was the most intense acute pain of my life. For those of you who are wondering if this would hurt, just try keeping you knee bent for a month and then straightening it and see how it feels (after a surgery too). I promise you, it fucking sucks. While it's nice having lived through it, I can honestly say I will always take the local anaesthetic from now on.

>I don’t like drugs or alcohol
You've probably never tried any good drugs to be fair, but using the pain to motivate you is a good mindset. Still, not all drugs are bad, that is retarded.

[Anonymous No.23547550]

>>23543980

are you functional? do you work?

[Anonymous No.23547619]

>>23542939
> "i never took painkillers except when someone gives them to me"

[Anonymous No.23547670]

>>23547379
Kek I know that feels
I do meditation sometimes that take few hours.
Usually my knees are bent so after I open them it’s painful.
I can’t imagine that pain in you bro
I kinda think it’s like mine multiply by 100
Ye I never experienced that, I would probably take it though, given that it’s necessary
What I mean is that I don’t take pain killers after surgery and believe me that pain is never acute, it’s always a lingering pain that diminishes over time.
I grown my own shrooms and shared it with my buddies.
Though I never take them I don’t think it’s bad.
Still, I just don’t believe that I need anything.
As I said, I rather face bitter reality than enjoy few hours in happy fantasy
I already do that few hours per day.
Dreaming

[Anonymous No.23547675]

>>23542011
I chew coca leaves-the absolute best thing- it blows away chewing tobacco and doesn't mess up your teeth and gums

[Anonymous No.23547690]

the worst thing about becoming an addict is that it's really true the phrase "once an addict always an addict". You can recover but you'll never ever forget what it's like..

[Anonymous No.23547701]

>>23547619
So? That’s a necessary thing that you NEED for surgery.
You don’t need pain killers AFTER surgery? Do you?
Because everything is done, I don’t think I need to numb myself anymore

[Anonymous No.23547772]

>>23542011
>uppers
fucking why? I need downers to get me through the day

[Anonymous No.23547779]

>>23547675
How to get em?

[Anonymous No.23547849]

>>23547690
That’s why you should stay away from hard drugs dumbass

[Anonymous No.23547868]

>>23547690
I kicked weed no problem once it was no fun anymore even tho i was smoking multiple times a day.

[Anonymous No.23547886]

>>23547779
Some pot dispensaries on the West Coast (Vancouver) carry them. Kinda behind the counter

[Anonymous No.23547978]

>>23542011
Amphetamines, dextrorotatory isomer if I can get it

[Anonymous No.23548168]

>>23547550
I bought a house outright in my 20's. i built and owned websites in 1999. so life has been relatively easy ever since.

[Anonymous No.23548572]

>>23547849

obviously

[Anonymous No.23548672]

>>23542011
I'm partial to adderall and/or biker crank myself if I really need to bust ass. Otherwise just coffee and cigarettes do me just fine. Too many shit side-effects for the former and I always end up breaking my nofap streak as a result.

[Anonymous No.23548793]

>>23543062
>Why use weed to kill the symptoms (anxiety) instead of letting anxiety be out and motivate you to find the core reason for your anxiety and hopefully fix it?
jesus christ you’re retarded. this is why you fags don’t have friends. no real life experience, just regurgitating shit that you imagine your dad saying.

[Anonymous No.23548938]

Nothing short of a lobotomy will make me forget I'm wagecucking

[Anonymous No.23549035]

Where my Kratom Brothers at, Thailand Farmer Addiction but makea you a sales god

[Anonymous No.23549160]

>>23542011
Missed the wageslave part, not amphetamine
definitely something like pot instead

[Anonymous No.23549250]

Adderall and ambien

[Anonymous No.23549527]

I love alcohol to get work done. I'm so fucking productive on alcohol. And caffeine.

I take marijuana when performing(DJ) it makes me get in the fucking zone so good and get the girls screaming.

Shrooms once every few years to slap me in the face.

Nicotine sucks that just gets me dizzy and I don't get anything.

Cocaine is good to feel like a god

[Anonymous No.23549550]

Weed if wish it were legal in my state.

Would smoke everyday

[Anonymous No.23549744]

>>23543751
dont eat corn you normie

[Anonymous No.23549880]

>>23543062
You're a fucking idiot. I bet you drink diet pepsi

[Anonymous No.23550649]

>>23542011

Microdose acid

[Anonymous No.23550776]

>>23542011
Caffine and nicotine every day because I'm an addict
Modafinil if I need to get shit done
Phenibut or benzos if I need to do something stressful
Alcohol and weed for dulling the pain of being a wageslave after work
Occasionally other nootropics for shits and giggles
Psychedelics when I want a mental reset.

[Anonymous No.23550865]

>>23547690
Yeah, I was a benzo addict for around two years
Tapered off of it myself after my state banned the analogs I was using. it's been like 3 years since then and I still miss the bliss of being a bartard.