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23541226 No.23541226 [Reply] [Original]

Imagine being a 50 year old japanese man

>enters the work force in 1990s
>fell for the index fund investing meme
>just be passive bro, long term stonks go up
>dca your life savings in Nikkei 225 index
>30 years later

what the fuck happened in Japan?

>> No.23541260
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>>23541226
>what the fuck happened in Japan?

>> No.23541268
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>>23541226
Bankers crashed the economy lmao

>> No.23541269

Could this happen to America?

>> No.23541274

to be fair this chart ends in ~2010. the last 10 years have been pretty good. i think near break-even if you bought the absolute top actually

>> No.23541279

>>23541226
japanese bobo

>> No.23541309

That’s why you should buy a world index and not invest in 1 F* country duh

>> No.23541559

>>23541269
This is what I'm afraid off

>> No.23541598

What happened is Japan prints more money than any country on the planet and continues to to this day. Even with Americans lowering taxes under the trump economy and spending trillions on corona relief we still spend far less than Japan in terms of percentage of GDP. Japan's government goes 3-4years worth of their GDP further into debt every year. Eventually this will destroy the Yen, but Japan will survive on the next world standard currency whether that be CBDC or a decentralized option like Bitcoin

>> No.23541654
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I blame the United States.

>> No.23541669

They don't print the reserve currency of the world.

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>>23541274
Imagine bagholding for 30 years.

>> No.23541699

>>23541226
This is what America will look like in the future of African refugees stop learning JavaScript

>> No.23541728

>>23541226
zoom out

>> No.23541744

Almost everything that came out of late 80s japan was fucking dope and well built too, my buddies pathfinder has 350k miles on it and still runs and looks great

>> No.23541751

>>23541598
>Japan will survive

Maybe the island will survive, but there won't be anyone left kek

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All we have to do is drop a couple of atomic bombs and recharge them.

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>>23541226
>imagine being a 50 year old Japanese man
>tfw I already am one

>> No.23541862

>>23541751
There will still be a couple hundred thousand on the Island. They're leaders in automation and should be able to fend off any attackers with their American Allies

>> No.23541891

>>23541812
If 50 year old fat american pervs pretend to be cute japanese schoolgirls, then you must be...

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I want to go to Family Mart.

>> No.23541931

>>23541894
I miss the top meme, it was cute

>> No.23541949

>>23541269
no, america is like 80% of the makret. The world cant cash out

>> No.23541957

>>23541269
This is the us in 7 - 8 years

>> No.23542125

>>23541598
how can they do that what's the end game? I always that of Japan as conservative and frugal

>> No.23542409

>>23541669
This

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They just need to lift.

>> No.23542483

>>23542125
it’s how they keep all the overleveraged firms solvent

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>>23541931

>> No.23542671

>>23542657
hot

>> No.23542687

>>23541744
And I remember my buddys 90s pathfinder completely obliterating him financially
Blew up on the highway on the way to the cabin
Still bought another Nissan tho...and it actually served him well
They're hit and miss

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>>23541226
Yakuza Zero happened.

>> No.23542799

>>23541226
Yes, that's a good example of how passive investing is actually way riskier than people say. Of course it works IF the market keeps going up constantly but assuming the market just goes up constantly is stupid, you can't know that actually. It's literally like saying "it's a good idea if it's a good idea". Never made sense to me.

>> No.23542985

What are dividends

>> No.23543023

>>23541692
kek japs btfo

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>>23542985

>> No.23543100

>>23541226
Yeah but he'll have a cute Japanese wife

>> No.23543216

>>23542125
Believe it or not, they're actually spending the majority of their budget on social security for retiring boomers just like the in the US. The only thing different is that Japan doesn't invite mass immigration to offset the negative native citizen/race birth rate. It's why their economy is so out of whack. Boomers far outnumber the younger workforce and the social security burden is taking its toll.

>> No.23543232

>>23543100
A meme. Have you SEEN what an ordinary native Japanese looks like? It's hit and miss in that country. Not every Japanese looks like the JAV women you see in porn.

>> No.23543237

>>23541226
this is why you pick individual stocks and build your own diversified portfolio of what YOU think will continue to GROW. index funds are just the total growth, and that's not at all guaranteed. example; i think activision and amd have massive growth potential, but in an index fund i'd only be buying tiny fractions of a percent of them.

>> No.23543284

>>23541226
Watch Princes of the Yen.
Basically, central bankers wanted more power and worked with the Americans to destroy Japan’s post-war high growth system

>> No.23543407

>>23543284
I actually recall news articles printed in the 90s in Time and Newsweek about the big Japanese scare that they were taking over the world. Basically, the Japanese did what the Chinese are doing now. They were making low-cost, inexpensive products which the world all over was buying that they were predicted to replace the United States as the leading global economy in the 2010-2020s. Of course, the difference is that Japan is a US puppet while China isn't.

The Japanese Central Bank basically de-pegged the Yen from the US Dollar and that was the end of their growth, unlike the Chinese which the US has no power over militarily

>> No.23543438

just YCA bro

>> No.23543532

>>23541226
zoomer here
what happened?
why did it dumped that much?

>> No.23543543

>>23541949
>The world cant cash out
what do you mean?

>> No.23544358

>>23543232
Weebs are shoot retarded. Just look at random yearbook

>> No.23544374

>>23543532
it dumped that much because we live in an economy.

>> No.23544382

>>23541226
Incels, whores and Anime

>> No.23545003
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>>23541226
updated Nikkei chart in 2020

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>>23542125
>what's the end game?
To out-jew the jew.

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I own 3% of the fully diluted supply of a token.
Am I doing it right, /biz/?

>> No.23545315

MMT and (((Central Banking)))

>> No.23545368

>>23543543
Too big to fail

>> No.23545420

>>23541226
this docu explains it
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5-IZZxyb1GI

Long but absolutely vital in watching. One of the main things that got me into BTC and crypto.

it is happening right now everywhere around the globe. Do with this info what you will.

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They degenerated and started population sorting

>> No.23545515

>>23541226
imagine living in a country where you can afford a new home mortgage earning $9 an hour. or take a familt of four to dinner for under $20. wow its so shit here. i wish this place was full of niggers and billionaires instead.

>> No.23545639

>>23542431
UNGA BUNGA

>> No.23545679

>>23541226
Huge bubble the likes of which the world had never seen. Collosal correction following. The market reached heights back in 1989-90 that it shouldn't have reached for like 20+ more years.

>> No.23545704

>>23541598
Japan gets a pass to brrr and be 200%+ debt to gdp because he world loves them so much that weeb culture is a thing. Nobody likes Zimbabwe niggers.

>> No.23545712

>>23545515
Please use the nap room at work and make sure not to leave before I do. I also take my naps late so just stay in the office until then slave, if you do I'll give you a bad rating.

>> No.23545744

>>23541269
If people like Biden win, most definitely.

>> No.23545765

>>23545368
Like Bitcoin, right anons?

>> No.23545769

>>23545744
cope

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>>23541269
>he doesnt know

>> No.23545779

>>23543216
This, I was living there last year and the entire population went absolutely apeshit when the national sales tax went up from 8% to 10% — last October they were acting like it was more of an existential threat to the nation than they would later consider WuFlu until about May
The entire economy is still a bubble propped up on wagies and tourists paying for social security and their housing costs are still out of fucking control, they went long as hell on their Olympics gamble and right now it’s looking like the worst risk they’ve taken since Pearl Harbor

>> No.23545794

>>23541226
This video mentions a brief part of it: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qrn8VMLvcCY

Short version: The US didn't like the competition.

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>>23545769
You in 7 days. Just kys now faggot.

>> No.23545814

>>23541226
There's a huge 'underground' trading community in Japan. If you can read Japanese you can browse 2ch and more obscure places. Basically, I've come across FAIRLY sophisticated traders there. The active fund management and trading scene is very big in Hong Kong, China and Japan because the market index there have been awful.
That or they just invest in the US.

>> No.23545872

>>23545779
Going to live there from the UK next year. 10% is still fucking half of what we have to pay in sales tax here.

>> No.23545919

>>23543237
>>23543237
Tell this one to all the boomers who invested in SEARS.

>> No.23545965

>>23541269
No. Japan has been able to keep it's skeleton of an economy from falling off a cliff by being the majority owner of its own debt. America won't have that luxury.

>> No.23546139

>>23545872
Yeah it’s nutty how cheap you can actually live in the poorer prefectures, my rent for a 1LDK was less than 1/3 of what I was paying in the U.S. for a 1BR/1BA and the insurance fees were absolutely nothing compared to Obamacare; that said I did get sick twice in my second month there and the doctor was absolute boomer-tier retarded and threw the same list of NINE (9) prescriptions at me both times for the 103.5F fever I had that he brushed off as “kammon korudo”
The country basically runs on young people breaking their backs to make rent and buy new clothes every week while old farts pinch every penny as if it were their last

>> No.23546705

>>23541226
What happened is a terminal state credit economy. The solution was that all bonds are now centrally guaranteed with 0 risk. This also means credit really does create money out of thin air by any estimation and money is completely controlled by these who issue it without any facetious pretense of requiring solvency to repay.
>>23541269
Yes. Keep an eye out for it because it's one crash away from happening even if they've been trying to avoid it. It's the weapon of last resort

>> No.23546947

>>23543232
I dunno, most Japanese girls ive seen irl are pretty cute, if you dont mind big faces. also no fatties. Taiwanese girls are the best though, they dont even need makeup.

>> No.23547034

>>23546947
>taiwan
patrician taste but chinese girls have funky nipples
jap girls generally look meh but dress incredibly well
k*rean girls will not be named and may allah have mercy on me for uttering such filth
go find a poor, chubby okinawan and bankroll her life indoors so she can avoid a tan like her life depends on it

>> No.23547099

>>23541226
Looks like the damn ALGO chart.

>> No.23547343

>>23541260
My wife Kiririn is so cute.