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The show is about to start edition.

Bullion dealers
https://jmbullion.com/
https://sdbullion.com/
https://boldpreciousmetals.com/
https://bgasc.com/
https://providentmetals.com/
https://www.moneymetals.com/
https://monumentmetals.com/
https://goldenstatemint.com/
https://gainesvillecoins.com/
https://silvertowne.com/
https://schiffgold.com/
https://goldsilver.com/
https://pinehurstcoins.com/
https://sprottmoney.com/
https://goldsilver.be/en/
https://silvergoldbull.com/

>Constitutional/"junk" silver info
https://jmbullion.com/ultimate-guide-to-90-silver-coins/
https://kevinsworkbench.com/junksilverguide/
http://coinflation.com
http://coinapps.com/

>Compare
https://findbullionprices.com/ (US)
https://eu.compare.pm (EU)

>News
https://kitco.com/
http://silverseek.com/
https://mining.com/

>Bullion tax info by state:
https://apmex.com/state-sales-tax-information

>Prospecting
https://youtube.com/watch?v=ZCL6FKQZyoM
https://usgs.gov/energy-and-minerals/mineral-resources-program/science
https://gov.bc.ca/assets/gov/farming-natural-resources-and-industry/mineral-exploration-mining/documents/mineral-titles/mt-faqs/faq_fmc.pdf
https://mndm.gov.on.ca/en/mines-and-minerals/mining-act
https://amazon.ca/Gold-Creeks-Ghostowns-British-Columbia/dp/088839988X

>Test
Nitric Acid
https://youtube.com/watch?v=3mg9YcAShTo
Magnets
https://youtube.com/watch?v=NgSXg-WOEVY
https://fakebullion.com/index.php/resources/fake-bullion-database
https://fakebullion.com/index.php/resources/identifying-fake-bullion

EU/ENGLAND sources
https://www.chards.co.uk/ [Much cheaper than BullionByPost]
https://goldprice.eu5.net/ [Website to compare gold prices for UK]

Russian/European coins
https://oldsilver.ru/

Previous thread:
>>23393143

George Gammon's SOFR video:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2mFo9X9gB8k

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My bake had to cool a bit. Thanks senpai.

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>> No.23405307
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Dont you love it when you find a bag of rocks labeled "do not through out HIGH GRADE" in your office and have no memory of where it came from?

>> No.23405387

>>23405307

lol, why don't you carry a gps and mark your coordinates?

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>>23405208

>> No.23405424

>>23405387
no clue, i just had these rocks in a sack in my office and theres no other info other than "do not throw out high grade" on the label.

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>> No.23405456

>>23405307
does that have both silver and gold?

>> No.23405479

>>23405456
Let me have a look, i think its ore from that high grade gold vein I found this summer. Looks similar, probably has visible gold. Will report back in a bit.

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>>23405307
How much would you pay for a real, working Star Trek tricorder that would tell you exactly, down to the microgram, how much gold is in that big rock without pulverizing it?

>> No.23405670

>>23405617
were close to that tech but its 50 grand and if i drop it its dead. I would do terrible things for terrible people for such technology.

>> No.23405741
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>2020:
>You buy 25k worth of PM mining stocks
>2023:
>Bubble has arrived. You've done a 10x and holdings are now worth 250k
>Meanwhile housing bubble has burst and prices have only fallen or stayed stagnant
>A 600k house from 2020 is now selling for 500k in 2023
>Your 250k mining portfolio now buys a 50% down payment (ignoring taxes for this)
>It's basically a mini-mansion near a golf course/lake/whatever
>Your neighbors are doctors, business executives and politicians
>The other half of the house is paid for with physical PM, other commodity stocks or crypto
>Or maybe just a really competitive loan due to already putting down 50%
>2026:
>The mining bubble has burst by half to only a 5x had you kept holding
>Good thing you sold near the top 3 years ago
>Housing is recovering and your 500k house is up to 600k again
>Congratulations on turning 25k into 300k or half of your house
>You did a 12x in 6 years with little to moderate risk

Believable? Overly optimistic? Time will tell.

>> No.23405928

>>23405741
Big brain

>> No.23405932

>>23405741
Why 2023?
I've seen predictions that the pm bull market will peak then but why then? And why does the Feds inflation models end around then also? What else will happen in 2023, Fed bux?

>> No.23405974

>>23405741
My house has gone up an average of $25k US per year for the last 10 years. Meaning I got paid $25k per year for the last decade to do nothing aside from owning a house.

at this point even if the bubble pops I got what I wanted. I got paid huge amounts of cash to do nothing. I took my family on a couple $15k vacations per year for FREE. I hope you get the same. You probably won't, but I hope you do.

>> No.23405995

>>23405208
You have to be really pathetic to think this man is attractive.

>> No.23406002

>>23405974
Is that just from the market, because you renovated or what? I'm looking into getting property soon

>> No.23406009

>>23405932
Maloney drew some meme lines and it forecasts November of 2023 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pboxv8Hne1E

>> No.23406014

>>23405974
So you kept taking home equity lines of credit out and you will be upside down on your house as soon as a downturn comes?

That doesn't sound very based.

>> No.23406028

>>23406002
Market. I live in an EPA superfund site in Colorado so prices were depressed a bit longer than other parts of the state. So when we finally caught up I saw a $100k purchase go to $400k in about 10 years.

>> No.23406054

>>23406002
he prolly lives in california and took out a 2mil loan to get an average house

>> No.23406061

>>23406014
>So you kept taking home equity lines of credit out
yes.

then I write a fraction of that cost off as a business expense, allowing my business to purchase 1/3 of my house tax-free instead of paying me a salary, me paying taxes on it, and then me paying the house.

this might be too much for you to understand. My company bought my house for me tax free as a perk. It still does.

>> No.23406072

>>23405932
I think the hope is economy will recover by then so no new stimulus

>>23405974
What percentage is that at 25k increase? How so much so consistently? You must live in a liberal coastal shithole and pay >50% in taxes.

>> No.23406090

>>23406072
>What percentage is that at 25k increase? How so much so consistently? You must live in a liberal coastal shithole and pay >50% in taxes.
>>23406028

>> No.23406123

2030 has been the much hyped banker bag year where everything hypothetically will be trashed to oblivion and the next 20 years will be spent remaking the world as they see fit. 2023 might just be a benchmark year to check their progress.

>> No.23406150

Bought ten oz of silver from gainesville coins about a month ago. They still have yet to even be shipped. Anyone else ever had this issue with them?

>> No.23406151

>>23405741
Unironically FUD

>> No.23406220

>>23406150
Never used them. I use liberty coin through their ebay store. Sometimes they run some pretty solid sales- gold a few bucks over melt for instance.

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>>23406054
>average house
Pic Related will sell for $2 mil if it's in the right neighborhood.

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>>23405741
>Buying a McMansion in a golf course
>Loans
>Neighbors
>Cashing your PMs to pay for loans
Anon you NGMI but please do it.

>> No.23406284

>>23406244
I turned down a job offer in Cali to stay in Texas when I was fresh out of college. My house is 1.25mil 5200sqft, 1 acre lot, pool, amazing landscaping, 7 foot cement wall blocking neighbors.

Why anyone would stay in Cali and pay 12% sales tax to live in a shitty house is beyond me. Bunch of libtards.

>> No.23406287

>>23405741
>Buying shitty soulless circa 2000 McMansion with no history worth speaking of in a HOA hellzone.

>Not buying a historic ranch/cabin property with hand carved wood trim and enough acreage to qualify as your own zip code.

NGMI.

>> No.23406297

>>23405741
holy fuck, if you do this you're retarded.
>>23406245
this guy gets it. we are headed for a total change in how the world economic system operates. if you sell REAL MONEY to buy a loan in USD right now, you're fucking insane or stupid. we could have private property taken away at this point. Communist dictatorship is not off the menu for the next 10 years.

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>>23405741
more like
>housing market crashes, hopefully while PMs are high
>plot of land that used to be 200k is now 50-100k
>build a nice house, with shed + barn
>pigs, chickens, bees, and goats, maybe a couple cows
>harem


Dream big

>> No.23406327

>>23406297
>Communist dictatorship is not off the menu for the next 10 years.
I pray that orange man followed by a brigade of lolbertarians can solve this.

>> No.23406329

>>23406284
nobody wants to live there but everyone wants to have bought a house there 30 years ago and enjoyed the massive gains from doing nothing.

you did it right. Buy cheap in TX and then wait for california to invade and drive up prices and taxes. Then move to mexico or alabama or some other 3rd world toilet and live like a california equity queen.

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>>23406061
I keep telling people this...

If you dont run your own business out of your house, you are giving away free money... mortgage utilities, tools, consumables, vehicles... all become write offs so long as they are business related.

Getting money is only half the battle, the other half is keeping it.

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bought another 10 oz of silver yesterday, i'll be at 175 oz when it arrives, am i gonna make it?

>> No.23406355

>>23406338
You're right but the flip side is my highest income tax bracket is 60% and my lowest is 15%.

capital gains from passive income that you depreciate the underlying assets for is the real ticket to wealth. Business ownership is just a side effect of that.

>> No.23406369

>>23406338
This. The best part is, the chances of them actually auditing you or raising an issue is next to nil if you keep it all reasonably small.

>> No.23406377

>>23406297
a mortgage is a leveraged short on the USD, no? as the value of dollar diminishes the mortgage becomes cheaper and cheaper while land/home retains value as it's a physical asset

>> No.23406380

>>23406327
>libertarians smashing communism
that's not how this works. in general, libertarians almost always support communism against actual anti-communists. William Alexander Morgan is not one of a kind. Even today, the "skeptic libertarians" of Youtube are all turning into unironic communists.

>> No.23406394

>>23406369
I get audited every year by my insurance company, my accountants, my corporate auditors, and the feds. You WILL get audited at this level. But not usually by the IRS.

>> No.23406402

>>23406380
>libertarians almost always support communism
imagine being this idiotic

>> No.23406408

>>23406377
When the dollars collapsing and they hike rates to 15% to save it, sure hope you have a fixed rate.

>> No.23406427

>>23406408
they'll never hike rates in our lifetime, it'd collapse the house of cards the entire system has been built on since Volcker

>> No.23406431

>>23406402
name me a single Libertarian movement that has actively attacked Communists during a Communist uprising?

>> No.23406454

>>23406297
I got a feeling in 2024 is the year where we will see a communist running for office

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>>23406380
>libertarians almost always support communism against actual anti-communists
>the philosophy that holds property rights at its core almost always support communism

>> No.23406498

>>23405741
This sounds like something a henpecked boomercuck would do to appease his nagging wife and keep up with the Jones'. Learn from the mistakes of the past.

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>>23406284
>Why anyone would stay in Cali and pay 12% sales tax to live in a shitty house is beyond me. Bunch of libtards.
Family and lack of career options outside of the State tend to be the main reason people get stuck in Cali.
>House in pic will sell for at least 1.5 mil because it's in a white neighborhood.
The only upside to CA is that wages are higher so you can buy more stuff on Ebay and on bullion sites than you would be able to in other States.

>> No.23406537

>>23406301
I think I will end up with 100oz of gold but idk if I want 10k oz of silver... I have 600 ASE and its already bulky.

>> No.23406542

>>23406355
Depends on your country, effective tax rate is 40% income for me, but really 60% once you add all the various other taxes.
>>23406369
audits wont matter, they do happe, but you do everything legal and its fine.

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How long till silver reaches $100 per Oz?

>> No.23406592

>>23406542
what kills me in the US is the Self Employment tax of 15% flat on top of income tax. But that cuts out near $130k

my problem is I don't usually pay myself that much.

>> No.23406599

>>23406485
>>23406485
libertarians almost always support communism against actual anti-communists. like I said, name a single Libertarian movement that decided to actually support Anti-Communists during a Communist uprising. the fact that neither of you looked up William Alexander Morgan, says a lot. Libertarians when the time comes always support Communists instead of Conservatives or Fascists or Monarchists.

>> No.23406613

>>23406427
Here is one possible outcome that may work.

>Get 30 year T-bill rates as low as possible
>Lock in majority of US debt in 30 year T-bills
>Then let rates skyrocket

but as long as the debt is in 6month-1year tbills they wont let rates go up

>> No.23406639

>>23406592
doesnt really matter if you are self employeed

even if you are employed you pay half of the 15% and your employer pays the other half, but of course you really pay both halves because your employer cut your salary to pay the tax

>> No.23406640

well now after busting that rock up with a spare hammer in a kitchen drawer I can safely say there is visible gold and native silver in it... now to spend all winter slowly loosing my mind trying to figure out where it came from.

>> No.23406686

>>23406639
yes, but that means I have to raise my rate by at least 15% to cover the costs and then compete with small contractors that don't pay the tax and have clients get mad at me for costing more.

it's a clusterfuck, and it's the main reason I sell exclusively to the government and huge companies that get audited by the government. Small business gets fucked because the average american doesn't know about the tax and doesn't care. All they see is that contractor A costs 15% more than contractor B.

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>>23406599
>libertarians almost always support communism against actual anti-communists
repeating stupid statements doesn't make them right. You've given no evidence other than your own opinion, and I'm not looking up your boyfriend's name, if you think he has something important to say then you can find it and share it here. Libertarians don't support commies, they don't support conservitards, they don't support fascists and they don't support monarchists, they support owning ARs and Recreational McNukes to keep idiots like you away from them

>> No.23406737

>>23406537
eh if you stack brass steel and lead it becomes a moot point anyways.

>> No.23406743

>>23406692
>they support owning ARs and Recreational McNukes to keep idiots like you away from them
dangerously based

>> No.23406751

>>23406692
I won't derail the thread anymore than I already have, but remember that name if you want a history lesson.

>> No.23406767

New stacklet here... How common are crappy strikes on ASEs? In this case it's like the blank wasn't seated correctly and took a raised edge.

Following up on that question, how often do the (((approved))) dealers let a fake slip? Fully intend to get set up for testing in the near future, but I wonder how much scrutiny is truly required with orders from the reputable dealers.

>> No.23406780

>>23406767
post pics

>> No.23406810

>>23406767
dealers will usually fully reimburse a buyer if a fake is found, they do not want that getting around that they didnt pay back someone for fake PMs.

>> No.23406813

>>23406767
>How common are crappy strikes on ASEs
I actually have a proof ASE that has a shit strike on it.
>dealers let a fake slip
I have never heard of a major dealer letting a fake ASE slip through. It may happen, but I can't imagine it happens more than once in a blue moon, if at all.

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>>23406751
I have no interest in looking up some mong who sided with commies, because that means he was not a libertarian in the first place, he was a commie. It's really not that hard.

>> No.23406872

>>23405307
how do you crush that

>> No.23406881
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My shiny rocks just arrived! Man I have been sleeping on Morgans I need to get some more

>> No.23406884

>>23406692
libertarians indirectly support the communists by refusing to ally with conservatives/monarchists/etc, and just keeping to themselves. this takes a large chunk of the 'right wing' manpower/firepower out of the equation, and enables the leftist coalition to win. libertarians are then steamrolled anyway, because now they're all alone and the left can focus on eliminating them. the rightwing's problem has always been a refusal to unify when it counts, the left will make a diversity-gender-queer-nigger-spic-muslim-lgbtqpx-amerindian-faggito-white guilt boomer-antifa trust fund kid-faggot alliance and somehow hold it together to ultimate victory, but on the right we cant get a fucking libertarian and a monarchist to agree to something as simple as 'lets win the fucking war, then you faggots live over here and we'll live over here, and leave eachother alone'.

>> No.23406885

>>23406872
tube mill

3 inch pipe, heavy pipe cap on one end, large metal rod to smash rock with

>> No.23406889

>>23406394
haters gonna hate

>> No.23406897

>>23406640
ouch... may need to re think the labeling process I guess... sounds exactly like something I would do.

>> No.23406899

>>23406881
are you the same anon that posted his fake morgan a couple days ago or is everyone here just buying the same fake morgans?

>> No.23406902

>>23406245
The point is this is a possible scenario if mining stocks bubble. IDGAF what specific house you buy or any at all. You completely missed the point. Which is that this is a 6 year scenario plan to potentially multiply your money several times over.

>>23406287
So buy that house instead holy fuck lol see above.

>>23406498
See above.

>>23406301
Good plan if farming is what you like. Definitely not for me. See above.

>>23406297
If communists take over will your mining stocks be safe? I'd think a house is much safer. If you don't want debt just buy one that's 250k instead of 500k but again that's not the point. Anyway if literal communism is rising in a few years then maybe you buy that house in a foreign country or something and escape. The overall plan still remains the same.

>> No.23406918

>>23406899
This is the first one I have ever had how do you know its fake?

>> No.23406930

>>23406918
>how do you know its fake?
they all look alike. The fakes.

real morgans don't all look exactly the same.

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>>23406884
>diversity-gender-queer-nigger-spic-muslim-lgbtqpx-amerindian-faggito-white guilt boomer-antifa trust fund kid-faggot alliance


sad but true, unity must be achieved

>> No.23406956

>>23406918
specifically the wear is too even, the highlights too high, the lowlights too low, and the mid tones too well defined

this is a chinese 'circulated' fake with the usual shoe polish finish. They're selling millions of these.

>> No.23406993

>>23406956
Oh thanks for warning me... is there a way to reliably get real ones or should I just stay away?

>> No.23406999

>>23406872
just bashed it open with a rock hammer, but if i wanted to mill and assay it, I would do this >>23406885

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>>23406884
Maybe because that's not how it works at all. When libertarians side with either party, they get fucked over because both sides only care about imposing their will on everyone else.
Both commies and conservatives are the same in that they're both authoritarians.
>Wanna have a beer when you're 20? We'll throw you in jail if you do, but you can join the army and die
>You don't wanna make the cock and balls cake for our wedding? Go to jail and be re-educated
I don't care about the left or right 'winning' because ultimately both of them just want me playing their tune, when all I really want is to be left alone.

>> No.23407009

>>23406993
PCGS or NGC slabs from reputable coins stores with authentic registrations on the sponsoring website.

or become and expert on morgans so you can spot them by eye.

>> No.23407017

>>23406897
yea I normally have a location code or GPS on a sample, makes me think I just picked up a cool rock and put it in my pack without thinking.

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>>23406640
sweet, get busy making some bars!

>> No.23407069

>>23406345
I'm a stacklet. So I don't know. I'm working on it though. Buying a few oz a week.

>> No.23407077

>>23407050
its about maybe 6 fist sized rocks, but if I can figure out where it came from this would smelt nicely!

>> No.23407083

>>23406884
Don't bother. Libertarians want to be left alone, they don't realize that being left alone isn't an option anymore. I also wish I could just be left alone, that just isn't how it works.

>> No.23407105

>>23407004
libertarians are not permitted to exist under the left, friend, this is what most of you fail to understand. the right doesnt care if you live innawoods, the left sends the Stasi to drag you out for your show trial.

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I am going to have to assay my floor grit after this.

>> No.23407127

>>23407083
i know. it's just we're going to need them. if the right-of-center is fragmenting before the war even begins, the left is guaranteed victory and we are guaranteed another round of 'lets try real socialism this time'. blood and tears in our future.

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>>23406902
I didn't kwon your secret intentions faggot, you described a brainlet plan and I answered that it is a brainlet plan. But I agree that buying a house is a good idea if you can afford it with gains from mining and other comodity stonks or crypto or PMs if they accept it I dunno. I also don't think there will be a communist regime but probably there will be a commie running for office yes.

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>>23406810
>>23406813
Thanks, it really doesn't seem sus to me other than it's a shitty strike, but I'll be evaluating it here soon. For now, only measurements.
>Diameter: 1.601(40.67)
>Min. Thickness: .115 (2.92)
>Max. Thickness: .137 (3.48)

>>23406780
Best illustration of the raised edge.

>> No.23407205

>>23407127
I'm afraid it's basically 'blood and tears' no matter what happens now. I wish they'd get the message and realize we are the only side in this fight who don't to maim, rape, and murder their families/children.

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>>23405071
Which one of you fags is this?

>> No.23407216

>>23407083
some people just want to grill in peace, but its slowly looking like peace was never an option

>> No.23407217

>>23407077
checked, digits say Pan Man bullion coming soon to pmg

>> No.23407218

>>23406885
>>23406999
I see, thanks bros

>> No.23407242
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23407242

>>23407105
>the right doesnt care if you live innawoods, the left sends the Stasi to drag you out for your show trial.
The right does the same damn thing. Wanna drink a beer a day too early? Jail. Wanna smoke a leaf? Jail. Wanna not be taxed? Jail. Wanna hold the military accountable for war crimes? Jail. Wanna tell the NSA not to spy on their own citizens? Jail.
You gotta realise it's not about left vs right, it's about authoritarianism creeping into every avenue of government and giving flawed people the power to make laws that control what every single person does. No one should have that power because it screws everything up for everyone, hence why politics is such a disgusting partisan mess today because governments have so much power that every election becomes tHe MoSt ImPoRtAnT eLeCtIoN oF oUr LiFeTiMeS. The Founders understood this and that's exactly why they tried to limit the power of the Federal Government to a few, very specific areas. The answer is not giving power to the left or right, the answer is taking power away from government so retards of any political inclination can't get into power and control our damn lives.

>> No.23407262
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>>23407211
there are so many fucking retards at ceo

>> No.23407292

>>23406899
Fake Morgan Anon here, coin shop said it was legit and it passed the tests (sans acid, not performed) so I don’t know what else could be done to prove that it’s real

>> No.23407344

>>23407292
Different anon here, but as long as you buy them onesie twosie from reputable dealers, I wouldn't be too worried about it. Chances are reputable dealers are well aware of these fakes.

>> No.23407359

>>23406881
Looks great. I really want an ASE but I'm a leaf and it's almost impossible to get ahold of one

>> No.23407365
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23407365

>>23407292
you could cut it in half, but that would kind of be a waste, its probably okay anon

>> No.23407384

>>23406918
Get it tested if you're unsure. That may be a fake. I have one that looks similar but it fucked with me enough to go get it verified at a LCS

>> No.23407404

>>23407344
I got the specific one off of eBay but I got two others from a very reputable dealer. The uncertain one is non-magnetic, rings the same as the two real ones, weight is on par, not over-thick, “normal” reeds, only thing was that the diameter was a bit small. Coin shop gave it a pass, dude is old and has been doing this shit for decades. I literally don’t know what else could be done

>> No.23407410
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23407410

>>23406565
holy fuck

>> No.23407436

>>23405208

kill yourself

>> No.23407452

>>23407404
Just don't buy a roll of them and be out $300-$400 if they're fakes. I'd much rather lose $35 on a questionable one off that turns out to be real.

>> No.23407490

>>23407359
Why's that? Other than leafland being leafland...

>>23407410
For real. Gotta be a mess under there.

>> No.23407500

>>23407410
it's a pair of boiled eggs

>> No.23407502

>>23407117
Nice

>> No.23407528

>>23407452
I only bought the one so if it is still a fake after all of that it’s earned it’s $35
Like even the design doesn’t have any of the hallmarks of a cast, so if the fake passes everything and looks that good then the Chinese must just be manufacturing that shit for real

>> No.23407535

>>23407490
I think it's because ASE's aren't pure bullion, so GST (or VAT if you're euro) is added

>> No.23407539

>>23407242
always going to be a retard in power, only choice you get is which retard you back.

Fence sitters get fucked up the ass, every time, history proves this time and time again.

Hammer or nail, your choice, making no choice makes you the nail.

>> No.23407550

Should I start getting miners or more physical
200oz slv 1oz gld $0 miners

>> No.23407561

>>23407528
I hope you only get real ones, I'm not chasing collectibles really at the moment, i might get further down the rabbit hole and stop chasing weight. I hope I do, seems like a nice hobby with a lot to learn. But good luck!

>> No.23407569

>>23407535
ase's are 999 silver, the premium is just greater up here. you can get the for 42-43$ cad no problem.

>> No.23407574

>>23407539
No choice makes you the board, you get fucking pounded by the nail and hammer both.

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23407580

>>23407410
I know right, the idea of soon reaching $100 per oz is insane

>> No.23407596

>>23407569
Ouch. Idk where you are, but that might be worth a trip to a CS across the border if you're close. Plus we burgers have Timmys so you'll have decent coffee

>> No.23407601

>>23407580
I have a tall ass wife, if she dies, I'm finding this bitch and wifeing her ass up.

>> No.23407618

>>23407561
Well thanks Anon
I only wanted to have a few because I prefer the weight but the age and commonality is cool imo
I would just find it so ridiculous that this one in particular is a fake after all of the shit done to verify it

>> No.23407619

>>23407569
Excuse me, meant to say AGE. I want that beautiful american gold

>> No.23407635

>>23407292
the fakes pass all tests because they have the same composition as the real thing.

if you bought for spot or slightly above it's not a worry. you got real silver.

if you paid more you got screwed. Maybe.

>> No.23407652
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23407652

>>23407539
Or spend my tell pointing out that both emperors have no clothes, which of course no one wants to hear and spends the rest of the time pointing out
>b-but my side is the lesser of two evils!
Stop kidding yourself and call out any evil, not just the evil in the other side, and suddenly you'll have the libertarians supporting you.

>> No.23407662

>>23407652
>suddenly you'll have the libertarians supporting you.
that and $3.50 will get you a cup of coffee

>> No.23407664

>>23407635
So they're actually investing in making a small profit for once?

>> No.23407666

>>23405741
enjoy not being liquid. Cant take your house and run when they come to burn it down...or to fund UBI

>> No.23407669

>>23407664
some of them

some of the fakes are pot metal, but if it passes all tests that doesn't necessarily mean it's a real morgan

>> No.23407678

>>23407652
ok then... be deluded if you want but 1776 style freedom/libertarian-ism is 100% right wing, and all these impositions and ever expanding government come from the left, and the leftification of everything (including right wing leadership) over the last century or so.

>> No.23407694

>>23407669
That's still interesting coming from the Chinese, usually they go for the cheap shit and hope dummys buy it and they make 2000% profit.
I wonder what else they're faking that is close to it's originals value.

>> No.23407703

>>23407694
there was a massive fake artifact bust from china recently. They also keep getting caught faking fossils too. The chinese will mass produce anything they think will make a buck.

>> No.23407710

>>23407694
they're faking every collectible US coin afaik, but the best fakes right now are draped bust, seated liberty, and morgans. They fake gold as well but the price is so low you can't mistake it for real. Unfortunately they've learned to charge higher prices on fake silver so it's harder to spot the fakes by price alone. Previously they were selling fake morgans for $8 but now they're closer to $30 whether they're silver or not.

>> No.23407737

>>23407710
Curious on your sauce? I completely believe you, but it might lead to some more interesting finds on reasons to not trust China that I can bring up at work.

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23407739

Does this seem weird to you guys? Silver eagles below spot? Ignore the capped liberty gold piece, that was at melt, but 22 dollars for an eagle?! Very weird

>> No.23407750

>>23407694
>>23407710
https://www.walmart.com/ip/1878-1921-USA-Morgan-Silver-Dollar-1-Commemorative-Coins-Copy/214861425?wmlspartner=wlpa&selectedSellerId=101036892&&adid=22222222227365487226&wl0=&wl1=g&wl2=c&wl3=462642435057&wl4=pla-1142517305232&wl5=9028858&wl6=&wl7=&wl8=&wl9=pla&wl10=264146390&wl11=online&wl12=214861425&veh=sem&gclid=EAIaIQobChMIxrK1goPF7AIVeR-tBh2-DQvsEAkYBSABEgLpjvD_BwE

>> No.23407761

>>23407737
I buy and sell coins, I see the fakes all over the place.

>>23407750

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23407763

>>23407678
Ah yes, the endless wars are 1776 style freedom and libertarianism, how did I not see it earlier? Stop kidding yourself, the left/right is a sham that the political elite pull you into so you pay no attention to their rampant authoritarianism. Why do you think both parties agree on anything that gives them more power? Why did both unite to shit on Ron Paul, Justin Amash or anyone who displays even a vaguely libertarian tendency? Because they don't really care about left and right, they care about their back pocket, and if people start questioning whether we actually need government banning people from having haircuts and needing a license to build a 10 square foot deck in their yard, then they start losing their power, and with that goes all the delicious lobbying money.

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>>23407703
There was a big bust a few months back where a huge amount of Chinese gold was found to be fake: https://www.zerohedge.com/markets/83-tons-fake-gold-bars-gold-market-rocked-massive-china-counterfeiting-scandal

Hence why the yuan won't be a reserve currency any time soon, no one trusts China

>> No.23407787

>>23407739
Don't buy fucking silver (or anything) from walmart. Those prices are super sketch, btw

>> No.23407789

I posted in another thread but would like to hear more thought How much time do we have until the market/economy "collapse"? I'm still hapless stacklet tier because of credit card debt and being a broke college student. What is a monthly minimum I should at least shoot for?
>inb4 depends on your lifestyle

>> No.23407817

>>23407789
You posted in my thread, haha
Like I said, unsure.

>> No.23407827

>>23407789
Try to buy at least 5 oz per month if you can afford it. Personally I shoot for 5 per week, though I recently started so i'm still a stacklet as well.

>> No.23407833

>>23407786
imagine the horror of seeing this concrete block, then seeing another one, then looking around you and seeing giant towers of this worthless cardboard shitcrete all around you and just knowing that a strong wind could drop it all on your head.

>> No.23407839

>>23407750
What's crazy is there's no marker or indication those are copies... I'm getting my morgan dollars tested tomorrow

>> No.23407841

>>23407635
>>23407710
Well leafbux is $33 spot and I got it for $37, it’s not like I spent a fuckton on the rarity meme
So TLDR the Chinese are making fake Morgan’s with real metal, it’s just a fake strike date? Fucking wew

I actually want to review one of my 1921s in the morning because it looks like the diameter was a bit large compared to the other two. Nevertheless, I am amazed that the Chinese would go so retard mode that they’re basically making real coins

>> No.23407842

>>23407786
what no one talks about or missed about that huge fake gold bust was that some of that fake gold ended up being used to defraud banks in Africa as well. China fucked up badly with that fraud.

>> No.23407853

>>23407761
Do sealed mint rolls matter to you in the buying and selling? Currently i'm looking at a $5 gap between the two. Worth it?

>> No.23407858

>>23407839
yeah, by US law they should be marked
>>23407841
a country that will produce a billion units at $0.03 profit per unit will of course get around to counterfeiting collectible coins if they don't get in trouble for it.

my only question is why the US hasn't destroyed this trade yet.

>> No.23407866

>>23407853
no, I don't care. I'm going to bust it open either way.

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23407872

>>23407763
>explicitly state that the last 100 years are all liberal, even right wing
>hurr durr, yeah but all these examples from the last 100 years are liberal, even specifically pointing out that right wing leadership is coopted and will cut out any actual right wingers like ron paul.
>hurr I have no clue what happened in 1776, probably brave radical centrists like me telling both sides they are wrong, and doing nothing while feeling proud of it.

Utterly useless.

>> No.23407877

>>23407858
Wack
So is there anything that’ll actually prove which is real and which is fake at this point then? Cause if they’re made of the same shit then even cutting it open won’t mean anything

>> No.23407893
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23407893

Had an interesting day on eBay today, anxious to test these babies out when they arrive

>> No.23407895

>>23407877
a good eye. Sending it in to be slabbed will work but then you're wasting $30 on grading that no coin dealer will pay for.

mainly you just need an expert to look at it and make a determination. But that's getting harder to do because Chinese are getting much better at faking coins and morgans have lots of sloppy strikes.

>> No.23407901

>>23407678
Jews anon. The jewification of the west has been a process since Napoleon emancipated the Jews because the French wanted to revolt against the Catholic Church because some monk wanted to bang a few hundred years before that. Basically when you reject the Church you get ruled by satanic Kikes that follow no moral law and think it is their religious duty to fug you in the butt.

>> No.23407908

>>23407877
The design isnt going to be 100%, and neither will the aging, but to an extent this can be faked to the point where its 99.99% and no one can tell. Only question is can it be faked that well while still being profitable.

>> No.23407914

>>23407872
based. anyone who thinks 1776 was just about "be yourself bro, have fun, live your best life" has totally missed the point.

>> No.23407932

>>23407893
Always nice to get silver under spot, especially high prem coins like ASEs

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23407941

>>23407833
You can kinda sense it in the camera movements hey, I'd be quitting right then and there.
>>23407842
Will be interesting to see if China shoots itself in the foot with the Belt & Road thing (offering big loans to countries for mainly infrastructure projects that benefit Chinese industry) when countries realise their loan is based on thin air. Then again we are in /pmg/ and we realise that all fiat is based on thin air, so who knows
>>23407872
1776 was about liberty vs oppression and trying to prevent top-down oppression from happening you mong, project harder. I'd tell you what I do to try and get politicians to fuck off and let people live their lives, but we're on a malaysian soup-recipe forum and I'm a dog so what's the point

>> No.23407958

>>23407893
the middle one doesn't bother me but the other two look low-relief and a bit too crisp. Hard to say just looking though.

>> No.23407959

>>23407842
Fortunately for China, practically every government on the planet is corrupt and that is especially so in Africa. The west has not really put the smack down on China despite over two decades of their crooked bullshit. There's practically zero chance that an African nation is going to do anything meaningful.

>> No.23407985

>>23407895
Well again the one coin shop owner took a look and said it was genuine, I don’t know if it matters a lot but his shop is the best rated one in my city so if the rot is deeper than that then it’s out of my hands. At least I’m not holding it for the collectible value (mainly)
I’m really thinking about that 1921 now though, I’ll get to it in the morning. Worst case I just return it to the company

Fucking Chinese

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>>23407958
I'm with you my man, very squeamish pulling the trigger on stuff that seems to good to be true. This is a pic of the top one, has some tarnish so I'm not sure if thats a point in favor, crossing my fingers

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>>23407958
This is the bottom one, again, not sure if milk spots or what the fuck is going on, but the more imperfections, the more I feel like they are real

>> No.23408016

>>23407941
>1776 was about liberty vs oppression

It was also about creating a usurious class in the United States, if you want a wild ride look into Hamilton who is about as close to a crypto kike as anyone can be by adoption.

Also the articles of confederation were where the country wanted to be and the constitution/bill of rights is a farce which killed what America was envisioned to be.

Masonic ideals only go one way and that is straight to hell where they come from. America was a whore when she started and she will be a whore when she dies. It took a long bitter road to realize this but anything enlightenment was damned from the start. The only thing that can get the west back is going to strict pre Vatican 2 (Jewish Catholic dialogue) and creating a society based off of Catholic teachings both morally and economic.

>> No.23408027

>>23407750
>calipers
>scale

Thats about all you can do to protect yourself these days

>> No.23408029

>>23407958
Unless the coins are very worn, Lady Liberty's clothes that cover her legs should have a stripe pattern on it. Being that ASE are not circulating coins, it seems unlikely they could have so much wear on them.

https://catalog.usmint.gov/american-eagle-2020-one-ounce-silver-uncirculated-coin-20EG.html

>> No.23408044

>>23407959
>The west has not really put the smack down on China despite over two decades of their crooked bullshit
lmao keep coping. the west and china are both crooked, the west is ironically probably more crooked though

>> No.23408069

>>23407985
The rating of the coin shop has nothing to do with the dealer's experience or abolity to determine fakes. Find a coin shop with an especially experienced dealer and you'll get a more accurate judgement on if it's a fake or not.
One test that no metal can perfectly match silver on is the diamagnetism test. Lead and Copper are very close, but when compared side by side to Silver there's a noticeable difference.

>> No.23408071
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23408071

>>23408044
>the west is more crooked than china
Chang...

>> No.23408088

>>23407985
yeah, at the very least you got bullion. Might be real, it just looks like every fake they're selling right now.
>>23408001
>>23408012
>>23408029
I need reading glasses, I can't tell without them anymore. ASE's are the most common fake on the market right now though.
>>23408027
true. At least you'll get silver if the specs are right

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>>23408016
If Madison, Hamilton and Washington had held a lick of sense they would have listened to Jefferson and actually created a constitution closer to the articles of confederation, but instead they ended up with a Central Bank.

>> No.23408156

>>23408069
I know that the rating means jack but he’s probably the one guy with the most experience in this city since he’s been around since forever
I’ll aim to get a diamagnetism test done, probably won’t change anything though. If it’s fooled everyone so far it’ll fool the next guy

>> No.23408182

>>23408069
>One test that no metal can perfectly match silver on is the diamagnetism test
specific gravity should be off as well, but that's harder to measure precisely

>> No.23408295

>>23408069
Idk, I've heard silver plated copper coins usually pass the diamagnetism test

>> No.23408355

Should i get 20 ASE for $29.30 each? That's the best rate I've seen from local shops by me

>> No.23408368

>>23408295
A silver plated copper coin would fail the weight test and the ping test.
You have to test the coins side by side at the same time for there to be a noticeable difference, if you do them one at a time it will be almost impossible to tell.

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>>23408016
Pre Vat 2 is a good start. But, it's not going to happen to the Choose-Your-Own-Flavour-Of-'Christianity'-USA (TM).

Actually, the USA is clearly on the way out as is the Anglo-Zest-Empire. Imagine a world where the United States of the World detains McAfee because of his tweets, in Spain, even though he hasn't set foot in the USA for years and years... and detain the former head of the Defence of Mexico while attempting to holiday in the USA because reasons... and arrest a number of people all over the world because they made a mod chip for a damn Nintendo... or constantly threaten Europe over Nord 2... and on and on and on... all because of conspiracy for such and such reasons. America clearly has no real rule of law that makes a modicum of generic sense. No religion will save you guys.

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23408459

>>23408044
The Zest really is evil and the enemy.

>> No.23408499

Why is PGM dumping

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>>23408499
>line go down

>> No.23408866
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23408866

A good quiet night to draw up treasure maps, write down findings and listen to old tails of gold. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UYXJOCWBujo

I ll give you all a clue as well to some of my gold, one of my claims lays on Sam's old diggings.

>> No.23408944

Sprott just invested into Silver Elephant

>Vancouver, British Columbia, October 20, 2020 – Silver Elephant Mining Corp. (“Silver Elephant” or the “Company”) (TSX: ELEF, OTCQX:SILEF, Frankfurt:1P2N) is pleased to announce that it has entered into an agreement with Mackie Research Capital Corporation as lead underwriter and sole bookrunner (the “Lead Underwriter”), on behalf of a syndicate of underwriters, including Canaccord Genuity Corp. and Sprott Capital Partners LP (collectively with the Lead Underwriter, the “Underwriters”), pursuant to which the Underwriters have agreed to purchase, on a bought‐deal basis, 15,000,000 common shares of the Company (the “Common Shares”) at a price of C$0.40 per Common Shares for gross proceeds of C$6,000,000 (the “Offering”).

>> No.23408972

>>23408866
Thanks Pan Man

>> No.23408973

Rate my Silverfolio:

Aftermath Silver
Aurcana Silver
Defiance Silver
Abraplata Resources
Canada Silver Cobalt
Klondike Silver
Kootenay Silver
Fortuna Silver Mines
Hecla Mining
Pan American Silver
Endeavour Silver
Impact Silver
Alexco Resources


What am I missing? What should I take?
I’m a bit limited in the amount of stocks I can own since I don’t have a lot of cash available and I want to control transaction costs (I’m an Eurofag). So I have to be very selective in the stocks I choose.

What do you gentlemen think?

>> No.23408987

>>23408944
Do we buy this? Line go up?

>> No.23408988

>>23408973
Impressive, very nice.

>> No.23409001

This is the next leg up. Foreigners are dumping bonds to sell dollars.

>> No.23409038
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23409038

>>23408972
Heres another for you mate. This follows some of my favorite territory in BC. The Cassiar Range. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=caf94LgGv6E

>> No.23409066

>>23408973
Shill me kootenay

>> No.23409158

>>23405071
whats the best way to check if items are pure silver or silver plated? i want to buy old junk and either hoard it like treasure or smelt it all down.

>> No.23409162

>>23409001
It's a tricky thing at the moment cause all currencies are getting dumped, rather than the old
>USD up EUR down
>USD down EUR up

>> No.23409210

>>23408120
Wasn’t their ideal usage plan for a central bank to be to exclusively fund infrastructure development, which would in turn allow the private sector and commons to thrive, thus enriching the population indirectly?

>> No.23409251

I've noticed a lot of tards coming from /pol/ lately and bitching about interest/usury. You need to think about what actually happens in the transaction to understand what interest is. It's a lease on capital (and when everything is upside down like in March, money itself). Banning "usury" would be the same transactional thing as banning capital leases on things like airplanes. If I set up a trust and buy airplanes with the intent to lease forever to airliners, no one would think it's usury. If I loan 30 million to american airlines to buy a plane, suddenly it's now usury? The actual transaction is identical on both of our balance sheets as well as our legal status (since if I loaned them 30 million for the express purpose of buying a plane I would demand that plane as security in the note).

Look into Islamic mortgages (which I consider much better than western mortgages) if you want to look into this further. A joint venture between the bank and the buyer is set up to buy the house. The buyer then rents the house from the joint venture and buys them out over time. The situation is better like I said because it forces banks to have better balance sheets, but from a cash flow and legal perspective, it is no different than the rest of the world.

Next you'll think, "well what about all those consumer credit and pawn loans!". This was one of the first problems solved in the history of economics. Unless you ban every citizen from selling their own possessions at a deep discount, people will just sell possessions in order to get cash if they can't get loans. You can ban 15% loans, but you can't ban 15% discounts on items. The individuals balance sheet is now identical as with a loan if he is forced to sell the item.

Read "Defense of Usury" by Jeremy Bentham for more:
https://oll.libertyfund.org/titles/bentham-defence-of-usury

>> No.23409280

>>23409251
t. j*w

>> No.23409296

>>23408988
Really?
What would you change? Would you eliminate or add something?

>> No.23409318
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>>23409280
t. understanding of accounting

>> No.23409386

>>23409318
>non-aggression
What a cuck.
>individualism
Lol. Only for whites, right?

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>>23409386
If you had the slightest understanding of jurisprudence you would understand why you can't start legislating interest rates without ending up with legislated market prices and legislated monetary units.

>> No.23409602

>>23409251
Islamic loans are not usury. Islamic loans don't charge late fees and do compounding interest.

>> No.23409635 [DELETED] 

>>23408016
Fucking based

Related:
https://therightstuff.biz/2020/04/12/ftn-american-mephistopheles-hamilton-deep-dive

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>>23408016
Fucking based

Related:
https://therightstuff.biz/2020/04/12/ftn-american-mephistopheles-hamilton-deep-dive

>> No.23409789

>>23408866
Holy shit, that dream Billy Barker had that told him to dig 52 feet down to hit the motherload. What a legend

>> No.23409865

>>23409563
Usury is and has always been j*wish.
Banning it literally worked for millennia.

And yes, a “socialist” country just for Whites would literally give us the highest standards of living.
That’s what Scandinavian countries were before j*ws shitted them.

Imagine literally being a j*w. The only place you haven’t been banned from is hell. Do you know how I know that? Because all those j*ws that were burned and killed in Europe throughout centuries didn’t come back. Only the ones that we expel are still here shitting up everything :)


Now let’s talk about pms.
You can go to reddit if you don’t like to talk about pms.

>> No.23409925

>>23406009
lmao.

Unironically it's not a bad bet, but more because it will be the last year of trump and I guarantee america will be in FULL ON PANIC MODE on who is next and can he/she handle it.

I foresee a lot of people hedging into gold.

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>>23409602
>>23409865
That's my point. Interest is just time value + credit risk. Both of which are inherent in renting or any other transaction that takes place over time. The only difference is that the islamic banks are forced to demand better borrowers because of the legal treatment. The banks still have to account for the risk of the homeowner going broke and factor it into the transaction. It is impossible to actually remove the cost of interest from the economy, because the same cost would just show up listed other ways.

You would have to make contango on futures contracts illegal to ban interest/usury. It's literally unthinkable. The price of every mining stock would be the value of all their fully refined ore - extraction cost at all times, making it pointless to actually extract the ore. Interest has never actually been "banned" to anyone with the slightest business savvy. This is a monetary policy general in a business/econ board. Learn something

>> No.23410098

>>23408355
That's what the shops are selling them for around me, too. I would go ahead and buy some unless you think silver might drop back down this week

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OK /biz/, I'm looking for some small/micro cap silver explorers/producers, preferably some that at least generate some revenue and have enough cash to fund operations for the next couple of years. Any pointers to start researching?

>inb4 bayhorse
I use two brokers and neither have it available to buy (I'm a UK fag)

>> No.23410215

From last thread:
>>23403655
>>23403715
Samefagging aside, it's just one machine in one location, far away from Florida Man. You're down in hot box country, so just buy boxes of halves if you want silver.

Besides, while I am unironically a poorfag right now, I still manage to make smart decisions with my currency and live comfortably enough on it to better my position, getting real money when I'm able to. That's miles ahead of the 'richfag' masses that blow through all their fiat being consoomers and having nothing to show for it.

Me, I buy little I don't need, and nothing I can't justify value for, along with converting a couple Jacksons into real money weekly when I'm able to.

>> No.23410382

>>23409995
Yes, I'm pointing out that leasing money with simple interest in Islamic finance is different from usury, which is compounded and predatory. Make a guess why some forms of lending is allowed in Islamic finance but not others.

>> No.23410556

>>23406565
Barf

>> No.23410674

>>23407292
Your coin was real dude. It had all the markings a real one should. The paranoid retard boomers that post here think every coin posted is a fake. If the tests can't tell the difference and your lcs is fairly confident don't believe these retards posting nonsense. It has marks indicative of a struck coin of the appropriate age and if chucklefuck boomerfags say it looks just like a fake I dare one of them to post a pic of these miracle fakes for dissemination.

>> No.23410777

>>23407635
>>23407669
>>23407710
>>23407750
>>23407858
>>23407895
>>23407958
>>23408088
Jeez dude what the fuck. How can you be such a fucking mong? Look at the trash you posted from walmart. Do you honestly think that looks real? Coloration- wrong. Lady liberty has a fucking bruce campbell chin. Fine details- wrong. Stop scaring this guy with your shitposting since you can't even tell what a real morgan looks like.

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>>23410777
Just to follow up all coins have multiple dies used for striking. My overton book is the closest so that's the reference picture. Why do some coins look slightly different than others? Because the die is different. This also effects strength of strike so some years are softer or sharper looking than others. This also effects dates and mint marks as some are engraved seperately or differently particularly on older coins. Ever heard of a VAM? The die pairings of morgan and peace dollars used to be popular but have fallen off lately. Here's a book that you can use to attribute yours. https://www.amazon.com/Comprehensive-Catalog-Encyclopedia-Morgan-Dollars/dp/0966016823

>> No.23411121

>>23406431
>crickets

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>>23405208
Anon! Buy silver!

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>>23410157
my 5 favorite, that I've bought, that seem to have the most upside are
Aurcana
Alexco
Ascot
Impact
Pure Gold

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wake up lads, IT'S HAPPENING

>> No.23412181

Sending good thoughts to PMG bros today. A lot of volatility ahead. Stay the course.

>> No.23412339

they better not pull that 10am crap today

>> No.23412355

>>23412173
Wait until the daily smackdown finishes first before getting hyped

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>>23412355
the fucking CFTC needs to do their job and stop this 10am nonsense

>> No.23412454

>>23408016
Lol fuck jews and fuck catholics. Literally the antichrist and the synagogue of satan. Get fucked boomer. Maybe actually learn some shit about Christianity before you claim to be one.

>> No.23412536

Memelines suggest a bounce between 25.4 and 24.2 before completion of the wedge next week. Unsure of breakout direction.

>> No.23412601

>>23412536
Depends if stimulus passes. Hopefully with the 1200 dollar checks. Speaking of, what should I get /pmg/? I have 6oz gold, 200oz silver, and 7.5k in mining. Where is my weakest foundation?

>> No.23412632

>>23412601
Get more silver

>> No.23412652

>>23412601
You don't have enough silver, 500:1 ratio

>> No.23412710

>>23412601
get a silver eagle monster box

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>> No.23412910

Will these Jews ever let gdx go above 42 dollars so I can close out my long position before it expires in January smdh

>> No.23412911

where to buy PMs in europe with coins so i don't get raped with shipping from apmex?

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>>23412632
>>23412652
>>23412710
Roger that anons.

>> No.23413108

This is getting ridiculous, silver up $0.50 and Bayhorse SILVER is down again

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IS THERE GOING TO BE A DIP OR NOT
i have 20k more to spend in silver

>> No.23413249

>>23409296
Maybe put a little bit of dosh into speculatives if you feel like it. I'm not up to date with all of those companies but those are good picks for silver. I would focus on diversifying into gold, and maybe even add some exposure to base metals and uranium

>> No.23413257

>>23413232
>20k more to spend in silver
Why didn't you buy the dip when it was 23?

>> No.23413260

>>23413108
Kek, bayhorse silver. Who sold you that shit? As if silver wasn't already cheap enough you gotta buy penny stocks

>> No.23413301

>>23413257
It was my first to buying so i bought 5oz gold and 500 oz silver. but now i want more!!!!!!

>> No.23413412

>>23412898
Where is the yellow line situated at?

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>>23413412
Can't you read fucking graphs? State of a biz these days...

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>>23412601
Silver obviously, I'm stacking at 1,000:1 because it's the most based of all metals. Gold is alright but I clearly remember how cheap it was in the early 00s, buying little gold coins I could afford for under $50 each, yet even then silver always felt like a better value.

Maybe I'm a retarded sperg but I've always had the impression that gold is more common than we are led to believe and Silver is more rare and precious, but have much better info now than I did as a kid which only strengthens that conviction.

Gold is convenient and portable wealth which serves some purposes better than bulkier silver so it's good to have, but I really do believe that supplies of wholesale silver for industry will continue to be squeezed by increased investment and even Gov't demand, forcing a magnificent clusterfuck when Apple or Samsung run through their stockpiles and need to source that 1 extra ton that no wholesaler has in stock anymore.

It's accurate to regard silver, in addition to its prior functions, as a critical strategic material due to its superior properties. When nervous governments seeking to build stockpiles to feed their military/defense/intelligence apparatus jump in with existing investment, industrial, and the coming great global reset green energy 4th industrial revolution demand I fully expect glorious fireworks. I don't even care about exigent monetary/inflationary factors exacerbated by COVID shutdowns, that's just gravy frens.

>> No.23413619

>>23413470
No, there isn't a discernible price for that level

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>>23412355
>>23412429
Where's my smackdown? Also have some rare alaska mint rounds

>> No.23414070

>>23413955
They've been trying to smack it down this whole morning. You can see where when a breakout happens they just unload massive contracts to prevent it from happening. They are failing and its delightful to watch

>> No.23414189

>>23412911
Where you from? Goldsilber.be, Europeanmint etc are all good.

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Oy gevalt
Shlomo dump more quick

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>>23414578
>dxy falling
It's a great show to watch.

>> No.23414695

>>23414070
What do you use to watch the contract volume?

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>>23414578
>>23414627
very comfy, someones low on contracts methinks

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Money is starting to move

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>>23414695
Thinkorswim platform on td ameritrade
Symbol is /SI

>> No.23414896

>>23407710
Precious metal dealer here. Can confirm that they even fake 40% kennedies and silver dimes

>> No.23414906

>>23414875
ive got my finger on the trigger of a kilo asahi. is this bullish?

>> No.23414931

>>23413232

Wait till after election, keep stacking cash.

>> No.23414938

>>23413108
Im dumping as soon as it goes back to 11 cents.

>> No.23414957

>>23406338
Does your house need to be zoned for commercial use?

>> No.23414988

My question is why is defiance dumping so bad and crabbing? I thought that was supposed to be a top pick?

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>>23414906
TA is bullish in the long term. Underlying fundamentals are bullish in the long term. Nice dip right now.
Until we break out of that channel movements will stay within (seems pretty obvious) but when that channel breaks the moves will be violent.
Anyways, always DYOR and don't take my word for it.

>> No.23415097

>>23414931
lol fuck off

>> No.23415156

Buy stock in Doubleview gold (DBG) NOW shit's about to moon. Go big bros

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fucking schlomo waited until 11 today

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ooooooOOOOOOO

>> No.23415731

>>23406284
>Why anyone would stay in Cali
Because we're fucking trapped here. Whether it's socially trapped or economically trapped, we're here forever. All of my family and friends that I love are here, and my job is here. The only good thing about California Real Estate is that it's always going to go up. It will NEVER go down. But that simultaneously means you better get in quick or you're fucked. My parents come from the Bay Area and the amount of stories I hear of their friends that bought a house for $115k in 1990 that's now worth an upwards of a million is ridiculous. California is a fucking dumpster fire, and anyone with half a brain retires out or moves out when feasible.

>> No.23415768

>>23415291
It's back above 25

>> No.23415793

>>23415768
It never fell below

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Libertits in stock

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>>23415795
>random year
wake me when the cartels ship the 2020s

>> No.23415998

>>23415156
Is there any news? I know they just announced more financing yesterday but everything else I see is guys shilling it

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>>23415947
>>23415795
Wake me up when these bad boys are back in stock.

>> No.23416049

>>23405071
Are banks scams? Where do loans come from?

>> No.23416086

>>23415947
still bought a roll. Wouldn’t mind getting some other years while we wait for Jose and manny to package up the 2020s

>> No.23416180

>>23416086
yeah ive been buying the 80s versions at my lcs, comfy to stack

>>23416049
yes, thin air

>> No.23416266

>>23416041
asahi released a new american design i think, saw it on bolds website

>> No.23416286

>>23415156
any new drill results to look at? I know that ground their Hat property is located on.

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>>23405071
Your daily reminder not to trust Hitlerites and Greenbackers.

https://www.garynorth.com/public/department141.cfm

Whether you have a central bank print paper money, or have the government do it directly, MMT and communism are just as evil.

For months now, every thread has had infiltrators from /pol/ virtue-signalling about Jews in every post, triple-bracketing every other word, promoting communist, neo-Nazi, Greenbacker rubbish like A History of Central Banking and the Enslavement of Mankind. Expect those whom you attack to fight you back.

>> No.23416422

>>23416350
How’s the weather in Jerusalem today, Ishmael?

>> No.23416450

>>23416266
I saw it, but it's not as good as the previous design in my possibly shit opinion.

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>>23405071
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>> No.23416549

NOOOOO SILVER WAS SUPPOSED TO DIP FARTHER

>> No.23416888

>>23416422
refute any point made in that graphic or in the comment
you can't, you're a brainless idiot who regurgitates /pol/ propaganda with no grounding in reality
>inb4 jew
no, but national socialism is an idiotic ideology and as much of a failure as communism was

>> No.23416909

>>23416532
You would have to be a complete retard to get involved with this.

>> No.23416977

>>23414988
Because silver has not gone up in price. The thing about mining companies is that their stock prices are almost entirely dependent on metals prices. When the product they sell isn’t worth much to the market, then their stock price will just crab along with the metal itself.

>> No.23417662

Bump to prevent falling off.

>> No.23417771

>>23408973
RATE MY FOLIO

>> No.23417915

>>23415795
I wish they were cheaper. Don't want to touch for more than 26

>> No.23417922

>>23417771
its dogshit, there, theres your rating

>> No.23417951

>>23417771
Dump Asscana pick up metallic minerals and voila A+

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>>23415731
I still don't get why you are there.

>> No.23418112

>>23416888
Gold allows book and bust cycles and creates an even more powerful banking class. Labor is the source of value and you can print debt free notes that keep up with the growth of the economy. Something Gold cannot do which naturally leads to boom and bust allowing kikes to buy up assets at a percent of their value.

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Check my memetic lines.

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>>23418131
bullish

>> No.23418344
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Where is butthorse shill

>> No.23418417

>>23418344
I can't believe you faggots talked me into spending $600 on this at $0.12 USD, it's probably going to take $28 silver for me to get back to even

>> No.23418458

So how do you guys keep pace with Chinese Morgan fakes? Because the videos I see from just 5 months ago all say that even the good fakes still have a number of imperfections, where do I keep pace with these mythical perfect fakes?

>> No.23418487

>>23418344
actually, now is the time to buy Bayhorse

>> No.23418513

>>23418417
I know the feeling. Butthorse is a toilet tier trashcan stock. If it ever breaches 11¢ I'm selling everything I have.

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>>23418458
According the raving boomer from earlier this is a top tier fake

>> No.23418547

>>23418458
theres a link in the op with a fake silver comparison database


>https://fakebullion.com/index.php/resources/fake-bullion-database

>> No.23418594

>>23418131
To get a more accurate representation of the supports and resistances, always try to make the lines touch the tip of the wick in as many cases as possible. This will allow you to accurately realize when a support or resistance has been broken and to act accordingly. In the case of this graph, it is likely you will think a resistance has been broken when in reality the resistance is just being tested.
Being accurate in your memelines is unironically very important if you are using them for anything more than fun.
Still, you got pretty much the right idea there nice memeing anon.

>> No.23418721

>>23418540
Well there's still a lot of fucking problems I can see from the image alone. Those scratches are disgustingly fake, the letters are fucked too
If that's top-tier then I can't see mine, at least, being fake because there's SO much wrong with that
Look at the reeds too! That's disgusting!
>>23418547
Call me retarded but I don't see morgans in their database

>> No.23418798

https://ceo.ca/@newswire/orex-set-to-begin-exploration-on-sandra-silver-gold
Watch Orex. May see some fun stuff on this stock.

>> No.23418894

>>23418458
Ignore the retard's delusional notion that there's millions of indistinguishable fake morgans out there. There ARE fakes, but it's not like 1 out of every 2 you see are fake

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>>23418417
shut the fuck up bitch, you knew miner were a few years play, dont bother complaining about being down not even 6 month in.

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is today more likely to end with a run up or dip?

>> No.23419064

>>23418995
All depends on if the chucklefucks upstairs agree on the stimulus deal.

>> No.23419112

>>23418910
Really wished I bought some MAG in September.

>> No.23419121

>>23418995
We've been seeing the moves late at night- asians are buying right now.

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>>23419121
>asians are buying
true

>> No.23419212

>>23418894
That was what I understood; yeah fakes exist but they're not literally everywhere and they're still marginally easy to distinguish from authentic coins
I'm going to stop worrying about them from this point on, with regard to my 3. If they were fake then they've beat 2 separate, reputable companies. If they say they're real and they pass the tests I'm inclined to believe they're real and anyone else would probably agree

I'll focus on fine silver in the future to cut out this meme stress. Sterling x bullion is the way

>> No.23419299

>>23416888
Ok Rabbi Avraham let me waste my time on (You)
>>23417915
seems others found a value in these at $32. already out of stock. they will be on eBay by next week for $38 kek

>> No.23419320

so when is the comex defaulting then or have i been memed

>> No.23419335

>>23419320
Memed

>> No.23419368

>>23417951
Arguments against Aurcana? To me they are absolutely spotless

>> No.23419494

>>23419368
as devils advocate they did have legal issues before with Eric Sprott under previous management. They also have been taking their sweet time getting going on the project in general when other companies with a similar budget have been drilling like mad. There may be reasons for this though, including the fact that the only two drilling companies in the state are booked up for the next two years. I like Aurcana but if they cant get it going on time like they said there will be a lot of very unhappy people, not just investors, knocking at their door.

>> No.23419537

>>23417951
what in the fuck are you even talking about?

I hold both already and by far aurcana has outperformed and has more solid fundamentals.

Give reasons with #'s to back them up

>> No.23419569

>>23419494
>including the fact that the only two drilling companies in the state are booked up for the next two years.
Wait, I thought they're starting very soon?

>> No.23419615

>>23419569
they have drills on site already, but if they wanted to get more rigs on the property, they would have to go looking for another contractor out of state. Its so strange to me that there arent more drilling contractors in Colorado or in that region in general, but thats what happens I guess when so few projects get the go ahead.

>> No.23419668

>>23419615
Thank you for clarifying.

>> No.23419705

>>23419494
I may ve mistaking it for another company but isn't Aurcana supposed to hire their workforce from another mkne that's going to close soon? Maybe they're waiting for that?

>> No.23419777

>>23419705
I know there looking for trained miners and underground certified labor in general so that could be correct but I havent heard they were going to hire from a closing operation. Let me go have a look.

>> No.23419894

>>23405071
Who’s baking?

>> No.23419961

>>23419894
I will

>> No.23420016

>>23419961
New thread
>>23419985

>> No.23420168

>>23419777
Cheers. Might've read that from their company presentation or the Revenue feasibility study

>> No.23420238

>>23420168
My ID keeps changing for some reason

>> No.23420382

>>23418417
I hold 10k shares of bayhorse. As soon as it breaks 11c I'm dumping 7k shares and re allocating. Thinking about impact, eloro, kootenay, klondike.silver one.

>> No.23420405

>>23419320
It was supposed to. Further proof our economy runs on toilet paper.