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It's a bullish week for Monero: the price has soared and the daily transactions are nearing an all time high today yet again. What can be observed is that a mixture of a need for privacy from transparent crypto (see: recent Kucoin hacks), the Government conceding they can't track Monero, and a huge rise of adoption in Dark Net Markets is increasing demand and thereby putting a significant amount of upward pressure price. We are slowly cruising up, and our inflation nears less than 1 XMR per block...
If you have any questions, feel free to come in and a Monero anon will help you out.

>> No.23195203

potential breakout edition.
let's hope the monero dev team can continue without sarange and the other, without getting stomped by the gubbermint

>> No.23195228

>>23195203
can you elaborate a bit what happened and why?

>> No.23195258

>>23195228
no I cant you glownigger. you took a wrong turn and ended up on the wrong board. here's what you were looking for: >>>/lgbt/

>> No.23195270
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Buy Bitcoin. Use Monero.

Look up morphtoken.com and godex.io. Those provide ways to change BTC into XMR without KYC. I wish I would've known this a year ago.

>> No.23195282

>>23195170
comfiest of holds.

>> No.23195299

>>23195228
Monero has funding proposals to help fund projects or research. Sarang has been doing funding proposals every quarter for a while and has created some unbelievable innovations for Monero, including the forthcoming CLSAG update and Bulletproofs. Due to burnout, he is no longer asking for funding every quarter, although he is still communicating on IRC and contributing to the project.
Brandon, the other guy, was sick earlier this year pretty bad and took a leave of absence, and now he is working at another job. In the past, he also has taken hiatuses.
But the good news is there are many researchers in Monero and the wider cryptosphere. For example, atomic swaps are being developed right now. This is a massive innovation and those researchers are working on it pretty hard.

>> No.23195323

>>23195299
"burnout". yeah he got burnt out and was told to take a permanent hiatus from this project.

>> No.23195325

>>23195299
To add onto this, atomic swaps were developed by a team of 5 researchers and Sarang/Brandon weren't among them.

>> No.23195357

>>23195323
Sarang is literally still helping out glowie, he's not on "permanent hiatus". The Monero IRC logs are literally public and you can read them at your discretion
>https://monerologs.net/monero-research-lab/20201005

>> No.23195414

>>23195357
>yeah i just saw >>23195299 post about them contributing via IRC (hell they can still do so anonymously)
although is anyone worried that the dev team will become a target of a wrench attack? especially if people are getting desperate to stop xmr

>> No.23195490

>>23195170
It is generally accepted that any form of "money", or currency if you prefer, should possess 7 qualities: fungibility, durability, portability, uniformity, limited supply, acceptance and divisibility.

>fungibility
Through it's privacy mechanics, no amount of Monero can be distinguished from any other. Monero is renown for it's fungibility and meets this criteria.
>durability
As a cryptocurrency, Monero is hard to evaluate in this criteria but it cannot simply be deleted or diluted at someone's pleasure.
>portability
The availability of things like crypto websites, crypto credit cards, paper wallets etc. are making Monero easier to use in the real world.
>uniformity
One moneroj = One moneroj always.
>limited in supply
Supply "cap" is around 18.3 million, followed by a base emission of 0.3 XMR per block to keep the network secured. Not 0.3 PERCENT, just 0.3. As time goes on the base emission will have a smaller and smaller impact on the coin's supply, and it will also replace moneroj that get lost or taken by the glowies.
>acceptability
Adoption is increasing, and as much as people fearmonger about privacy coins being banned there is no current indication that will happen.
>divisible
It's a cryptocurrency so you can split it up into however many bits.

This is why I like Monero. I wouldn't consider myself a privacy freak but XMR is one of the few crypto "currencies" that actually fulfills all the requirements for a currency.

>> No.23195689

>>23195414
Not particularly. Because Monero is decentralized and people contribute around the world it's more or less impossible to take down Monero's development. Plus anything that aggressive would create a streishand effect.
I am far more concerned about subversion of the community ethos once Monero rises in value and brings in dumb money. The Monero community is very united right now but this can change pretty quickly if some high rollers come in with influence and power. Hard forks can happen very easily right now but in the future this may be difficult. So far the community has been really great about onboarding noobies and discouraging moonboy shit. And also the technical side of the project deters dumb people. But it is the one thing that concerns me long term with Monero.

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>> No.23196139

>>23195689
yeah especially with what happened to bitcoin. it's ethos completely went the wrong way. hell in their github they were arguing over proper pronouns for trannies in their wallet logs. and SJW devs completely caved. so if developers can be swayed by globohomo trend of the day, what else are they vulnerable to?
that could very well happen anywhere else.

>> No.23196526

>>23195689
there were many monero forks that came out during the 2017 bull run by people trying to cash in. few if not all survived, and monero still reigns supreme in privacy coins

>> No.23196655

>>23195357
thanks for linking. I was looking for a way to see the irc logs. This would have helped counter that schizo yesterday. Sarang's posted in the irc as recently as yesterday.

>> No.23196758

>>23196655
>that schizo yesterday
lmao I inmediatly thought of him when I woke up today and it had pumped

>> No.23196808

>>23196758
He had good intentions but I think he was on a meth binge

>> No.23196839

>>23196808
I mean fudders always end up being the ones to contribute the most imo, since the counter arguments are what really brings value to the convo

I un-ironically went all in on LINK at 17 cents thanks to fudders and the anons responses (price was higher, I waited for the entry)

>> No.23197181

>I think the most important thing is privacy. Privacy over everything else. If we don't make Bitcoin more private and more fungible, it will not survive a concerted State-level attack that attempts to punish people for using it.

>You can't stop people from starting to use it and you can't confiscate their money, but you could confiscate their family and throw them into a dungeon. You could take possession of their bodies and throw them into a dungeon. If using this system has real life consequences to your physical safety then we have a problem.

>Anonymity is the only way we can make robust systems that allow individuals to assert their rights and their freedoms without being punished by an authoritarian system.

-Andreas Antonopoulous (October 10, 2020)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5zIGGdNFH1k&t=55m20s

>> No.23197666

>>23196839
The problem was his aggressive tone and also his nonsensical circular arguments. Whatever, he got the monero general to it's first ever thread limit, which is based.
>>23197181
Lol. Bitcoin maxis are going to be in shambles over this.

>> No.23197692

>>23195170
>If you have any questions, feel free to come in and a Monero anon will help you out.
How should I cope when I don't even have a 3 digit XMR stack?
And also will this shit reach $4k next bullrun?

>> No.23197721

>>23197692
$4k is delusional but we are goin someplace high up

>> No.23197869

>>23197721
I disagree. I'm not sure you remember the last bull run, but it was absolutely insane. The amount of money being poured into crypto and the enthusiasm was unbelievable. We are far removed from that. I believe long term that Monero will be the privacy hedge towards bitcoin, and a 0.1BTC ratio is very feasible. Adoption growth is going to be massive for Monero over the next few years. We are already seeing it. By this time next year we could realistically be seeing 35k transactions a day, and at that point we will be very close to tail emission. With that low inflation and that demand for Monero, we should keep naturally crawling up even if there isn't a cryptocurrency bull run happening (and imo the next real cryptocurrency bull run won't be until 2022).

>> No.23197987

>>23197869
>next real cryptocurrency bull run won't be until 2022
anons were saying 2021? so theres still a lot of time to accoomoolate? might withdraw from my stacks to work on a side hustle

>> No.23198056

>>23197987
There seems to be a considerable amount of evidence that Bitcoin having lengthening cycles. Because Bitcoin moves the market, the next market wide bull run won't happen until Bitcoin decides to really moon.
But there are a lot of variables, and it doesn't mean that other cryptos won't rise against Bitcoin in the meaning (wink wink Monero).

>> No.23198105

>>23195270
Is this the best way to exchange 300 UNI for Monero?

>> No.23198163

>>23198105
If you do not use a regular exchange, probably UNI to ETH on Uniswap, then ETH to XMR on Morphtoken?

>> No.23198233

I want the schizo to come back. He was fun.

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>>23197666
>666

>> No.23198434

>>23198163
Hm kk. I'll look into regular exchanges too just in case.

>> No.23198818

>>23195490
Monero is what bitcoin was supposed to be

>> No.23199747

>>23195270
cool. thanks anon. i tried to use xmr.to but it doesn't work (as a burger).

>> No.23199779

>>23195490
extremely based and simple explanation.

>> No.23199998

>>23198818
>>23199779
As an addendum I think we need to change how we view Monero. Don't call Monero a 'privacy coin', it's a cryptocurrency. Don't call 99% of the "crypto" space cryptocurrencies, they're NWO surveillance coins.

>> No.23200524

>>23195258
Based

>> No.23200545

>>23199998
well, it still is a privacy coin until it starts getting used for more things besides privacy. It scales better than bitcoin.

>> No.23200602

>>23196758
haha same here.
Maybe he was going crazy because he was short and about to get liquidated or stopped out.
Or he's bagholding another privacy coin that has vastly inferior adoption and private transaction liquidity.

>> No.23200607

>>23200545
His point is that cryptocurrency as a broader range is getting less "crypto" by the day.

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0.011

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>>23195170
an XMR whale fat-fingered the XMR/USDT pair on Binance today just to fuck the shorters.
He probably has a lot more liquidity where that came from too.

>> No.23200735

>>23197869
True. XMR/BTC held its' value very well in Q1 2018 while everything else tanked.
It was absorbing liquidity from all the scam tokens/coins after the cycle ended.

>> No.23200758

>>23200645
Based whale. Btw we passed Monero's 2019 high a few days ago. I'm feeling optimistic because there aren't any real psychological barriers ahead of us, I could see the price shaping up to do something like LINK did. Just, without the dump afterwards I hope.

>> No.23201008

>>23200758
XMR doesn't have 2/3 of the total supply controlled by the devs.
Early miners/whales or XMR probably heavily dumped/diversified in 2017/2018.
The average cost basis and holding plan is probably higher/longer now. Makes it easier for it to sustain a higher valuation.

>> No.23201086

>>23200602
>the best way to convince a monkey there is no zoo is to make him think this is the jungle.
-/XMR/ schizofren, addressing an audience of psyopsed npc cattle

>> No.23201242

>>23200631
Hell yeah brother

>> No.23202515

>>23201008
I think people are going to be surprised by how many strong hands there are in Monero's community.

>> No.23202631

>>23195170
the 4hr chart seems to respect memelines quite well, its a shame that i didnt pull the trigger on any of these trades

>> No.23202679 [DELETED] 

>>23195170
PirateChain is better
https://www.pirate.si/

>> No.23203217
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I really, truly, in all sincerity, hate to break this to you boys but XMR will be $50 EOY.

>> No.23203259

>>23203217
C O P E

>> No.23203378

>>23202679
pajeet detected

>> No.23203511

>>23203217
do fudders even try anymore? i miss the quality fud of the last bull market.

>> No.23203579

>>23195170
great thread. Newfag here, is it possible to send multiple transactions at a time? Or do we need to wait for a transaction before we can send another?

>> No.23203689

I had a business idea. Selling video gaming stuff and high demand electronics for monero. Hopefully with some increased margin. But I'm afraid people buying from me would be criminals or laundering and I'd be sending these goods to people. I just want to use a monero version of eBay. This already exists? What's the name of it?

>> No.23203724

>>23203579
Transactions take about 2 minutes to confirm generally. It's not unheard of for it to take as long as 10 minutes though that's uncommon.

>> No.23203733

How can I buy it easily with btc or Fiat?
Wallet?
Use cases?
Suicide stack?

>> No.23203867

>>23203689
i also had the same idea anon. but instead of eBay why not go big like amazon
>>23203689
is it possible to speed up transactions so they become instant or near-instant?

>> No.23203889

>>23203724
I don't think that was what he was asking, but yeah blocks take ~2 minutes to get confirmed and you need to wait 10 blocks for your transaction to be unlocked.
>>23203579
Let's say you buy monero three times over the course of a year, and each time you buy 100 monero. You have not spent any money so you have 300 Monero. You then decide to send three friends 1 Monero each.
When you send that firrst monero, it will lock the remaining 99 Monero in the first transaction for 10 confirmed blocks. You can then send the 1 Monero to your second friend from the second purchase of Monero section. So at this point, you would have 99 Monero locked from your first transaction, and then 99 Monero locked from your second transaction. At this point, because you have at least one Monero from that remaining 100 untouched transaction, you can send the last Monero to your other friend.
You can get around this with the CLI with the transfer command and send them all at once from your earliest transaction.

>> No.23204033

>>23203733
>How can I buy it easily with btc or Fiat?
With Fiat you can use Kraken. With BTC you can exchange with morphtoken, or on Kraken/Binance
>Wallet?
GUI/CLI for the full experience. My Monero and Cake wallet for light wallets.
>Use cases?
Digital cash. Once you withdraw cash from an ATM nobody knows what you do with it. Monero is the same way, and with the amount of censorship going on throughout the west, it will soon become essential to have financial privacy. At this moment, Monero is taking over the dark net.
>Suicide stack?
An unknown amount.
>>23203867
>is it possible to speed up transactions so they become instant or near-instant?
If you are tech savvy you can do this with the CLI wallet, or you can send big transactions to yourself to divide them up

>> No.23204053

>>23203889
so more input transactions = less xmr are locked up? (with each input transactions being greater than output amounts)

>> No.23204068

>>23195170
Bought a bunch of these at 48 dollars, and I'm not planning to sell. Sorry guys, I'm still buying more, actually. Monero will be 30k EOY. Where is that report estimating this? When out was like 2018 or something.

>> No.23204092

>>23204068
30k 2023, sorry. Don't know the price EOY.

>> No.23204284

>>23204053
yea

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>>23204284
thanks anon.

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>>23195170
Guys

>> No.23204597

>>23204525
green dildo incoming

>> No.23204599
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>>23203511
yeah.

>> No.23204614

>>23204525
the shady volume is caused by some chinese exchange wash trading, just ignore it

>> No.23204694

>>23204525
>coinmarketcap

>> No.23204717

>>23204092
i'm bullish as the next guy, but i think 100k btc, 5k eth, 1-2k xmr is more realistic for 2023.

>> No.23204728

>>23204599
thanks for the kek anon. good shit.

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>>23204614
Not vol

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someone overlaid btc's golden bull run onto xmr's current chart. bullish af.

>>23204717
if btc goes to 100k and eth goes to 5k, no way xmr will only be 1-2k

>> No.23204835

>>23204781
fair enough. i mean the absolute maximum i see btc/eth/xmr reaching is 140k, 10k, and 5k. i'm just trying not to get my hopes up. keep in mind that if these coins hit those values, it might be only for a day or a week, similar to the peak in 2017. i probably would be cashing out increments before and up until then.

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>>23204525
#14 soon?

>> No.23205057

>>23205025
ITS STILL BEHIND EOS?
ffs this shit is going to mooooon this month

>> No.23205081

>>23204717
>>23204835
You really think Monero's ratio for the next bull run will stay between .01 and .035? I feel like we have way more room to grow.

>> No.23205173

>>23205057
Monero has been jostling with fucking TRON for months now. A few weeks ago it's competition was OKB and Tezos. This shit still has so much room to grow.

>> No.23205188

>>23205173
un-ironically going to top 5, mark my fucking words

>> No.23205239

>>23205173
Reminds me of when link was neck in neck with Dentacoin.

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i love BISQ so much lads. trading money with my internet friends

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OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

>> No.23205280

Who else XMR/BSV gang?

>> No.23205308

>>23205280
quit shitting up every xmr general with your trash bsv

>> No.23205314

what was that?!?!?!

>> No.23205350

>>23205314
Crazy , it just jeeps going up

>> No.23205351

>>23205280
>BSV
Has no chance. Bitcoin remains relevant due to being the consensus standard, despite its technical shortcomings. BSV doesn't have this and is inferior to Monero as an implementation of Satoshi's vision.

>> No.23205371

>>23205314
This, my friend, is the price suppression being rendered null. Btw we hit transaction ath again today: 18,155.

>> No.23205377

>>23205280
Brapcoin Shartoshi Virgin

>> No.23205402

>>23196808
>He had good intentions
Idk man. Guy was saying XMR wasn't private because it can't cover everything else for you. Like he was expecting Monero to secure your internet, PC, messaging encryption, physical assets, etc and its just like guy, Monero is literally just a private ledger system. Not an end all be all privacy solution. You gotta run the remainder of OPSEC yourself.

>> No.23205442

>>23197181
>-Andreas Antonopoulous
Fuck that guy. Hes a corecuck faggot who thinks lightning is the same thing as using a fucking blockchain.

>> No.23205488

>>23198818
Wrong. Bitcoin was always suppose to be an open system. Monero is something very different.

>> No.23205519

>>23205488
Wrong. Read the Bitcoin whitepaper, in particular, section 10, "Privacy".

>> No.23205540

>>23205025
#2 soon. Hopefully right after BSV.

>> No.23205552

>>23205081
again, i could be wrong, i just tend to be more moderate when making predictions based on limited data. xmr (and eth) have only been through one cycle in five years. bitcoin has had three cycles in 11 years. if i'm wrong, then we all make a little more money, but if i'm in the right range, then i won't be bagholding when the next bubble pops. it's always good to take profits on the way up.

>> No.23205554

>>23205519
based

>> No.23205577

>>23205308
BTC is a trash coin. BSV is the correct iteration of Bitcoin and Monero is the ONLY alternative to Bitcoin. Suck my cock.

>> No.23205595

>>23205519
Bitcoin is private. Monero isn't private, its anonymous. Learn the difference.

>> No.23205653

>>23205595
bitcoin is pseudonymous, monero is anonymous

>> No.23205687

>>23205595
>Bitcoin was always suppose to be an open system.
>Bitcoin is private.
lol

>> No.23205711

>>23205687
Give Satoshi some slack. Back in 2009, he and everybody else genuinely believed that Bitcoin was anonymous rather than pseudonymous. Chain analysis has now proven that to be false however.

>> No.23205781

>>23205711
I agree completely, I'm arguing against this anon's revisionism, also common in the Bitcoin community at large, which claims that Satoshi always intended Bitcoin to be transparent. It's clear from the whitepaper that he valued privacy but underestimated the scope of the problem.

>> No.23205883

Stop dilating and buy before you're priced out.

>> No.23206350

Is it even worth buying on kraken instead of just sending tether to a swap service? These kikes nickel and dime you on everything, and the process from fiat the coins in your wallet is about just as much a pain in the ass. They don't even have an ACH funding option. I wish coinbase or gemini would add monero already.

>> No.23206695

>>23206350
How is kraken any more expensive or tedious than coinbase and Gemini?

>> No.23206735

>>23206350
If youre coming from fiat use kraken.
Swap services hide the costs. Hint, theyre expensive

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It has been proven that Monero can be tracked. Monero is too slow to be used by even .001% of the world's population. Monero is not fungible and has been banned in almost every country. Monero is inflationary. Monero wallets are flaky and you cannot access all privacy features unless you understand how to run the CLI. Monero mining is controlled by cryptojackers and botnets. Monero is inflationary and has an infinite supply. Monero already mooned and as an investment vehicle, has little potential for profits. 0x<>MR is the solution.

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>>23206819
fuck off pajeet
noone in an XMR thread is dumb enough to fall for your shit, go shill somewhere else.

>> No.23207037

WHAT THE FUCK WAS THAT

>> No.23207149

>>23207037
OOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

>> No.23207235

Hey monero guys. Recently bought [an unknown amount of xmr], judt wondering. Will xmr ever be lightning compatible? There is a layer 2 DEX i have in mind that has no kyc abd would be the perfect place to buy/sell monero in the future.

>> No.23207326

>>23207235
I don't know about lightning, but monero scales at layer 1 much better than bitcoin, which probably makes lightning unnecessary

>> No.23207345

>>23205595
Tomato, tomato. Most people who bought bitcoin thought it was at least semi-private. But with chainanalysis software bitcoin is more public than some social media sites. Monero is private.

>> No.23207447

>>23207326
Maybe but having layer 2 capabilities allow it to trade on layer 2 DEXs in the future making adoption easier. While monero might scale well Bitcoin does. Ot and requires layer 2.

>> No.23207456

>>23206862
debate my points then

>> No.23207483

>>23207447
perhaps monero's tari smart contract tech could help with layer 2 stuff you like?

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>tfw only $1k in XMR
I hate being poor

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we're all gonna make it

>> No.23208092

>>23207816
It's better than 0k fren

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schizo here. xmr is dogshit trash.

>> No.23208505

>>23208440
also. sarang isnt burned out. what does it mean to be burned out if you work from ur home whenever u want being comfy. it means he got rekt by glowies

>> No.23208523

>>23204033
monerujo any good?

>> No.23208524

>>23207816
damn you're poor as fuck, and I thought I had it bad at $8k

>> No.23208698

>>23207816
same anon, lets try our best and accumulate more

>> No.23208767

>>23205245
never used it but how is bisq anon if you have to use your bank account?

>> No.23208827

>>23208524
damn and I thought I was poor with my unknown amount of xmr

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bros the trezor one doesnt support xmr
imma cry bros.... brossssss.... hold me

>> No.23208970

>>23208767
i haven't used bisq for fiat transactions yet, just using it for washing i mean laundering i mean losing my btc in a boating accident via bisq

>> No.23209151

should i put my spare poorfag 20 bucks into lition, xmr or linkies when they go down again?

>> No.23209167

>>23209151
>20 bucks
buy a prostate massager :3

>> No.23209192

>>23209167
:(

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>>23209192
what's your monero address anon

>> No.23209232

>>23209209
i feel like i shouldnt post it here anon, isnt it forbidden :(

>> No.23209241

>>23209209
>what's your monero address anon
864nXwsyMNyBGFLe8FL9BWLpBTyGw2vfLRcgoL5EzJnr4Vfx7r5xm9j6q22L2ebH35HfVnij8YcT6cHEDnR7yQAJ3rhpMtS

>> No.23209279
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>>23209232
no it's forbidden to beg but posting a string of random characters isn't forbidden. you could put it as your name and post something cute like a girl (female) if you want
>>23209241
pathetic

>> No.23209292

>>23209279
we can technically derive a seed key from any arbitrary string of characters thefore this post and all the others on here are private keys representing wallets. fuck the janny

>> No.23209294

>>23209279
>pathetic
xD hope nothing bad will happen

>> No.23209301

Btw, pls don't send any moneroos

>> No.23209314

>>23209301
don't tell me what to do

>> No.23209315

Unironically, is there actually any risk involved sharing monero addresses?

>> No.23209322
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>>23209279
sorry anon i couldnt find a good pic of a cute girl on my hard drive but here is a pic of a nice looking and cute german news presenter looking at bud spencer :)

47j8pf5E8vBY9GGhAdkL2d2sAkKtqT9zjSXmMEMmU3aW8q4YHQzFw4WKZuC6ETFvL4SSfHga5x9EohfxuPdSoi6dQ7HNdoP

>> No.23209353

hey quick question why is it that my monero wallet balance still shows 0.059 monero even tho i transfered it to another account and it arrived there?

>> No.23209376

>>23209315
yeah the address can be emptied of all funds. look for tiny transactions to your address, that's the sign that all your money is about to disappear

>>23209322
sent ;)

>> No.23209384

Omg someone sent me 5 moneroos thx
>>23209353
>hey quick question why is it that my monero wallet balance still shows 0.059 monero even tho i transfered it to another account and it arrived there?
Anon learned how to duplicate moneros, shut him down

>> No.23209398

>>23209376
>yeah the address can be emptied of all funds. look for tiny transactions to your address, that's the sign that all your money is about to disappear
AHHHHHHHHHH it's happening!!

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23209407

>>23209398
kill him. transfer everything and then find another

>> No.23209459

>>23209407
this is actually no joke anons, so i tried sending 0.059 yesterday and it didnt work, it got stuck at 0/10 confirmations and is actually still waiting for confirmations, then i did it again and it worked this time and it actually arrived on the other wallet but this one still shows 0.059 :O, why is that

>> No.23209475

>>23209459
sorry meant to reply to >>23209384

>> No.23209481

>>23209459
try send it to your other wallet again and see what happens
by the way i send you a bit of xmr but it hasnt verified yet.

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>>23208955
even the ledger is hard to use with monero... you can generate private keys on it but then you have to attach it to the monero gui wallet. I've gotten errors with this each time, and it took nearly an hour trying different connection ways until it worked. I think it had something to do with the version of monero gui wallet?
I wish it was easier to keep monero on hardware wallets.

>> No.23209513

>>23209493
i would buy a hardware wallet that was specifically designed for monero (+ other privacy coins maybe)

>> No.23209604

>>23209481
yea it didnt arrive either anon :( should i send you another address and is it possible to cancel a transfer if it doesn't arrive for a certain amount of time?

>> No.23209609

>>23209459
>this is actually no joke anons, so i tried sending 0.059 yesterday and it didnt work, it got stuck at 0/10 confirmations and is actually still waiting for confirmations, then i did it again and it worked this time and it actually arrived on the other wallet but this one still shows 0.059 :O, why is that
If you use Cake Wallet or other ones, go to settings and set faster sending (to fast, not very fast), then you will have minimally more transaction fees, but it will be faster and actually arrive.

Regarding the 0.059, try resyncing or something.

>> No.23209625

>>23209604
it will arrive eventually, it's because of the transaction 10 block limit. don't worry

>> No.23209674

>>23209609
huh i resynced and its still there, is there anything i can do about the obsolete pending transfer? it worries me that its still showing up

>> No.23209964

ah okay, wallet is in sync now! its back to 0.0! thanks

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>>23209964
Congratulations!

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Mining monero and etherum for chink wages in other words for 81 cents a day is it even fucking worth it

>> No.23210709

>>23210252
maybe if you use your miner as a space heater

>> No.23210754
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23210754

love you guys

>> No.23211213

>>23209625
do you know if its arrived anon, its been 3 hours and i dont want you to waste your moneros even harder than you have already on me :(

>> No.23212058

>>23207235
You can send xmr to bitcoin lightning wallets using xmr.to

>> No.23212466

>>23195258
based

>>23195282
very comfy even though I'm small stack

>> No.23212882
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WHAT WAS THAT?

>> No.23213015

>>23212882
Fat finger whale is back I think.

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>>23212882
very expected

>> No.23213055

Anyone have the relative block reward chart?

>> No.23213087

>>23195170
h- h- hai Monero Chan. y-you look nice today.

Gosh, that was stupid of me to say. sorry i didnt mean to waste your time. I always blow it. so stupid.

>> No.23213090

>>23213015
'just' BTC pumping. Love how XMR gets the BTC pumps, but dodges the dumps, bullish af.

>> No.23213106

>>23208955
I wonder why you havent gotten the model T in the first place. With that, you can enter your seed without using your computer keyboard.

>> No.23213143

>>23213090
this was the biggest thing I noticed a while back that made me stupid bullish

>> No.23213190

why the pump

>> No.23213230

>>23213190
Dark net adoption. We are taking over.

>> No.23213239

>>23213190
DOJ admits XMR is goat'd & I think a DN exchange went down so all that's left takes XMR only? Not sure about the last one

>> No.23213290

>>23213239
Yeah that's what happened. All darknet marketplaces live on borrowed time but the current largest one deals exclusively in XMR. XMR is one of the RARE cryptos where a large % of it's users are people who have no interest in crypto aside from using XMR.

>> No.23213924

>>23213190
Lower inflation than fiat but not shorted like bitcoin.

>>23213090
Woke

>> No.23213948

>>23213290
quite thankful for all the drug dealers and pedos laying down their lives to prove the limits of anonymous payments. noble sacrifice, each one

>> No.23213975

>>23210252
how many hashes? it might be worth it if you can hold for a few years and cash out when it's over 1k usd.

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>>23195170
700 USD fair value and climbing. YUUUGE.

>> No.23214782

XMR generals are now lasting for at least a full day. we hit all time high of 20k transactions in 24 hours
https://localmonero.co/blocks/stats/transaction-stats

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>>23214742
SUPPLY AND DEMAND

>> No.23214868

>>23214782
I have an unkown amount of profits right now. Not going to sell.

>> No.23214945

>>23213995
sexy. also has this light late 1990s/early 200s touch to it. like it. sav'd.

>> No.23215007

>>23214868
based

>> No.23215068

I bought 1 monero, because I'm a poorfag. What should I expect

>> No.23215097

>>23215068
How does $1m sound?

>> No.23215105

>>23215068
A downpayment on a nice house at some point in the 2020s.

>> No.23215133

>>23215097
>>23215105
I got you fooled, anon. I actually bought [unknown amount] moneros!!!

>> No.23215140

>>23214742
This is just beginning.

>> No.23215165 [DELETED] 

>>23215133
Keen nice
Don’t go on any boating trips.

>> No.23215363

Monero still has a lot to improve.

But were at a good point to onboard more people.

Thankful for today!

>> No.23215403

>>23209493

i had problems with this aswell, until i moved the blockchain to an SSD, which sped up things tremendously. Havent had any issues since then. Might be problematic once i run out of space, but im fine right now.

Can probably try bootstrapping aswell.

>> No.23215450

tfw cashed out thousands in XMR earlier this year.

>> No.23215459

>>23209279
I really hope that's not a dude.

>> No.23215483

>>23206819
Pajeet Rajesh detected.

>> No.23215530

i have been mining monero on my r5 1600 since randomx was released. was just able to snag a r9 3900x off ebay for $360 shipped. i'm so excited to start solo mining frens! i won't even be mad if Monero Chan doesn't give me any blocks, i just hate the feds

>> No.23215609

>>23215530
why don't you mine on a pool to get some small gains?

>> No.23215634

>>23215530
solo mining is dumb, why would you risk playing the variance to possibly end up with no gain what so ever

>> No.23215650

Its not that complicated guys, just look at the coins ahead of XMR right now and how many of them actually have a usecase/aren't vaporware?

only BTC, ETH, the stablecoins and BNB. The rest, whether you believe in them or not, is just promises. XMR works RIGHT FUCKING NOW, perfectly. Now that the biggest DN only uses XMR, its over. It always made the most sense to use, it just needed that little push of adoption, and there it is.


XMR belongs in the top 5, and no that's honestly not an exaggeration. Will it get there? I don't know, but by all metrics that's where it DESERVES to be

>> No.23215791

>>23215650
we all know this anon. but the market is irrational

>> No.23215850

>>23215650
>Now that the biggest DN only uses XMR
the what?

>> No.23215897

>>23215850
Biggest dark net market. The thing about XMR is that once you use XMR, you don't go back to BTC. That's why this little push of adoption will lead to 4/5 digit prices in the near future.

>> No.23215971

>>23215897
>Biggest dark net market
gotcha, ty.
However I wonder why any dark net market nowadays doesn't use Monero exclusively.
>That's why this little push of adoption will lead to 4/5 digit prices in the near future.
So that $42k voodoo price target doesn't sound to bad?

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>>23215971
Satis Report predicts around that price within ~10 years.

https://research.bloomberg.com/pub/res/d37g1Q1hEhBkiRCu_ruMdMsbc0A

>> No.23216197

>>23215650
Experienced crypto trader detected.
I have been saying the same thing for years. There are only 5 crypto assets that have significant non-speculative adoption:
BTC, ETH, stablecoins, BNB, and XMR

>> No.23216272

>>23215897
True. Once you start making all your payments with XMR and through xmr.to, you don't go back to exposing yourself to chainanalysis and $5 wrenchies
The privacy is just too comfy

>> No.23216322

>>23216128
jesus, hopium overdose

>> No.23216447

>>23216322
I didn't write the report ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

>> No.23216448

>>23215971
it's because most people on DN are complete giga retard morons and they struggle to even figure out BTC let alone XMR

>> No.23216479

>>23216128
It makes sense. There are so many things happening in the real world right now that might call for an "anonymous" storage of wealth like XMR.
One of the biggest force is that the world populace is re-educated to abolish ownership in favour of leases and subscriptions. This won't stop no matter what kind of good we are talking about. Shelter, Entertainment, Cars, Electronics and in the end even Clothing and Food.
Eventually the luxury goods markets like antiques, jewellery & acessoires, art, items of rarity won't see any new potential buyers so the hopes of parking dirty money in those kind of things fade since it'll be more and more difficult to find a trading partner.
tl;dr long story short, I could see that "anonymous" crypto like XMR will eventually be the last resort to store, hide, accumulate, exchange wealth.
By that time most people will be prices out of any other assets like real estate and equities anyways.

>> No.23216678

>>23215634
its better for the network, and i will find a block every 6 months on average. also i'm a degenerate gambling addict

>> No.23216719

>>23215634
>no gain whatsoever
it's literally the same return as mining pools, if anything more since you're not paying a pool fee. the only reason to mine in a pool is if you can't run a node on the device (botnets/malware), or if you don't have the time commitment to mine for more than however long it would take for you to solve one block

>> No.23216883

>>23216719
you can go months withouth finding a block, meanwhile the pool miner is getting regular small payments
>>23216678
>every 6 months on average
ryzen 5000 will push that number even further up

>> No.23216951

more frequent payments is not worth the tradeoffs associated with mining for a pool

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>>23216883
>>23216719
>>23216678
I've been mining on my mediocre pc for a while now with nicehash
I convert everything to XMR and hold that, easy life

>> No.23217019

>>23216969
if i'm reading this graph right, that means you've mined a full xmr? based

>> No.23217065

>>23217019
0.9660 actually
>based
thanks anon

>> No.23217077

wish i had a full xmr

>> No.23217119

>>23216883
ya i might mine in a small pool until tail emission starts, but after that its solo mining all the way. i don't think the unified cache will make much of a difference in randomx, but we will see

>> No.23217149

>>23195170
been holding like 4 xmr since 60 dollars. am i gonna make it bros?

>> No.23217205

>>23217149
no you won't "make it" with 4 monero fucking kek dude

>> No.23217237

>>23217119
The block reward is currently 987 XMR per day.
When it hits tail emission in June 2022, it will be down to 432 XMR per day.
That will relieve significant sell pressure from miners, making it easier for the demand to push the price higher.
Same effect we saw after the May 2020 halving of BTC.

>> No.23217385

>>23217205
4 XMR could become a decent amount of savings though.
It has been 2369 days since the XMR genesis block.
BTC was at $675 at the same point in its' timeline.
If it follows a similar pattern, $3k to $4k per XMR in 2021/2022 is entirely possible.

>> No.23217400

>>23217385
yeah but that's still nowhere near making it though

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The amount of euphoria is a little bit worrying as of now

>> No.23218084

>>23217664
Perhaps.

>> No.23218204

best place to exchange eth for xmr?

>> No.23218469

>>23218204
Binance or Kraken. You can check out morphtoken if you want to avoid kyc. Tradeogre I believe can work as well.

>> No.23218814

>>23213995
Nice

>> No.23219268

>>23217664
>>23218084
I agree. Hopefully it's sustainable and if not I'll just DAC back in

>> No.23219575

If any lurking anons wants to join our biz monero telegram, here is a link. We have a comfy group of anons in here: t (dot) me/joinchat/RzBppVXb6p1_fS3jM47yqg

>> No.23219658

>>23219575
telegram isn't private though

>> No.23219699

>>23208523
I've been using that app and it was a pain in the ass. I just use Exodus and xmrwallet.com now.

>> No.23219772

>>23219658
Any type of instant messenger is not ideal for private communication. The only way of doing that is email with pgp. We use telegram for convenience. Although we have discussed going to another app in the past.

>> No.23219851

>>23219772
How about Signal?

>> No.23219899

>>23219851
Iirc they require a phone number.

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>>23219851
>>23219899
>>23219772
look up the sessions messenger on https://getsession.org/.. it's powered by the loki network.

>> No.23219950

>>23219658
Telegram is resilient enough to ave refesed to comply with subpoenas from various governments in the past. I'd say that's good enough for shitposting

>> No.23219969

>>23217664
Agreed. Just braced for strong hold if we correct, we all know it will be temporary

>> No.23219990

https://ccs.getmonero.org/proposals/h4sh3d-atomic-swap-implementation.html

Atomic swap funding proposal now open for donations!

>> No.23220000

https://ccs.getmonero.org/proposals/h4sh3d-atomic-swap-implementation.html
wew lad, crowdfunding 2727 xmr for btc/xmr atomic swaps

>> No.23220062

>>23219990
>>23220000
>Our design enables to seamlessly extend support for more cryptocurrencies to swap with Monero.
that's amazing.

>> No.23220573

>>23219990
If they manage to make this work properly, I nut.

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>>23195170

Sold 2 months ago for 82$ and put that money in 8% yield Income stuff...

Fuck me

>> No.23221778

>>23220818
You deserve to lose your money.

>> No.23221819

>>23220818
if you put money in hype you have to be ready to cash out at the peak of the hype.

>> No.23222163

>>23220000
Absolutely based.

>> No.23222193

>>23219990
>>23220000
How far out do you think we are from this being implemented?

>> No.23222404

>>23221778
>>23221819

Yeah yeah enjoy those fairytale coins while you can.
Enjoying pooping out your kyc everytime you buy the corns or Pedocoin

Enjoy while the gov doesnt ban it

>> No.23222654

>>23222193
says on the CCS. that being said, it's dependent on if this gets fully funded.
>Duration: 7 months
>Job completion: by Q2 2021

>> No.23222735

>>23211213
idk why the fuck but i can't send to your wallet, its baffling to me. tried 2 times and both times it just stalls [fails] if youre still here create a new address and post it

>> No.23222909

>>23222735
thank you so fucking much anon i really dont know what the issue is :/

86vvTp1Ps7th1FPhsBFhE1dci4t3zKCpsbMcSUaBNdUt5PnDWHGAHYn2ZScJJ7g3JdHTYdxUUrVQ2ZQzrrzvknL1FTWn9wd

>> No.23222925

>>23222735
https://monero.stackexchange.com/questions/6649/transaction-stuck-as-pending-in-the-gui

>> No.23222984

>>23222925
i really think its due to my wallet, its been very buggy since i have it

>> No.23223027

>>23222984
That doesn’t have anything to do with it if the other anon is saying his transaction won’t send. He probably isn’t fully synced.

>> No.23223059

>>23222925
yeah i just saw this, there's a bug with the simple wallet rn apparently. fixing my wallet now

>> No.23223085

>>23223059
https://github.com/monero-project/monero-gui/issues/3140

>> No.23223141

>>23213975
Its by using my gaymen pc as a miner. Only like 1.7 kH/s but sometimes it jumps up to 1.9. I'm making like 0.6-0.7 mBTC/day according to nicehash

>> No.23223250

>>23217664
have you ever seen euphoria? this is hope, optimism AT BEST

euphoria is when people feel like the smartest guy on the planet and they cant believe how much money they "have"

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>>23222909
fucking FINALLY the transaction shows up in the mempool

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>>23223285
just got 0.038 moneroooos thank you very much anon :)

>> No.23223625

Got 7, was gonna cash out
reckon these are worth holding then?

>> No.23223691

>>23223625
Well, you can either have like $900 now, or thousands in the future. Whatever suits your life needs anon.

>> No.23223737

>>23223691
everyone says this about every coin though
only reason ive held onto them is because all the dnms are taking monero up

>> No.23223809

>>23223625
We don’t care what you do. Get rid of them if you are chasing profits like a moonboy we don’t care.

>> No.23223824

>>23220818
not financial advice but... just open a 2k x20 long on futures
I mean there's more upside possible than what you're missing out
don't make the same mistake I made in the past (got left behind)

>> No.23223873

>>23223625
it's just starting to go up after a long ass accumulation, don't sell now
sell when you check your portfolio and you're at awe at how much money you have / euphoria

>> No.23223908

monero 1k when?

>> No.23223935

>>23223873
alight, just fancied buying a few g of k is all

>> No.23223948

>>23223908
Probably by 3rd Quarter 2021 at the the latest

>> No.23223966

>>23223935
ketamine? stop being a druggie degen

>> No.23223981

>>23223948
I have to work for another year, fucking shoot me.

>> No.23224099

>>23223981
Don’t do that Anon. You have to work for another year AT MOST :)

>> No.23224236

>>23223966
you should thank me
it’s drug mongs like me why monero is taking off, every market is moving away from bitcoin and adopting monero now

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>>23195170
Mark 836 kjv

For what shall it profit a man, if he shall gain the whole world, and lose his own soul?

Don't miss out on the free gift of eternal life /biz/ for it is more valuable than a ledger with a million links or your dream stack of monero/stocks/real estate. They all perish and you can't take it with you.

Ask Jesus for the free gift of eternal life if you believe the gospel (pic related)

>> No.23224281

>>23224236
Which market do you use? I know whm is mostly monero but I’m curious if others are adopting as much.

>> No.23224406

>>23224281
I use White House (monero only) most markets are currently a mix of monero and bitcoin but bitcoin is being phased out
It’s also become standard practice for new users now to NEVER use bitcoin and use monero instead

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>>23219575
Found you!

>> No.23224795

>>23195170
does the same anon make this thread every day

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23225030

>>23224795
No

>> No.23225230

>>23224248
Can’t we do both? The Bible is pro-investment.

>> No.23225238

>>23224756
It’s okay schizo anon. I already have your ip geo locked ;).
But for real, it’s why we still the unknown amount meme. Don’t trust anybody with info on how much monero you have.
>>23224795
I do make a lot of them but other anons help out. It depends if I’m busy or not.

>> No.23225248

>>23225230
Of course! Remember the parable of the man who didn't make any money investing because he was too cowardly. He was condemned.

>> No.23225271

whats the fastest way i can buy monero
i have a coinbase account and a bittrex account

>> No.23225340

>>23225271
send me all your coins and I’ll convert them for you

>> No.23225514

>>23225271
Get into kraken or binance or whatever exchange

Otherwise send btc to your wallet and then pass them through xmr.to
Be careful not to swap directly from an exchange, as if it takes too long the swap could get stuck

>> No.23225678

>>23225514
Xmr.to is monero to bitcoin.
Morphtoken is bitcoin to monero.

>> No.23225726

>>23220000
Digits

>> No.23225728

>>23225678
Oh shit thought it was bidirectional, my bad.
I

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>>23195170
COMFY COMFY COMFY

>> No.23226662
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when is this going back down? my bags are half full

>> No.23226689

>>23226662
Probably not for a while lol.

>> No.23226728

>>23226662
I'm surprised we haven't seen a correction yet.

>> No.23226736

>>23226728
This current dip could be the correction. Or maybe we're gonna go to $140 and then correct, not sure.

>> No.23227789

>>23226736
Who cares? Longtermwise it's going up, anyway.

>> No.23228544
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updated transactions

>> No.23229536

>>23198105
Mxc has a usdt/xmr pair and no kyc for 0.5 btc/day withdrawals