/biz/ - Business & Finance

[Anonymous No.23157172]

When did everything start to go downhill? Im thinking around 2000-2005. Was it the smartphone jew? The social media jew? The pornjew? The lgbtjew? The weedjew ? The niggerjew ? The islamjew ?

[Anonymous No.23157199]

>>23157172
Zoom out.

[Anonymous No.23157254]

>>23157172
actually after 2012 and expecially 2015 everything turned into shit.

[Anonymous No.23157259]

>>23157172
the obama niggerphone

[Anonymous No.23157367]

>>23157172
1945

[Anonymous No.23157383]

>>23157172
way back at the industrial revolution
then world war 2 happened, which which was a precursor of the digital revolution
then 9/11 happened and the war on terror

Emergent intelligence is next

[Anonymous No.23157388]

>>23157172
1939
we caved in to the jews and picked their side. the biggest betrayal in history

[Anonymous No.23157418]

Really, post-9/11 has been a shit show. But for some reason, Columbine sticks out in my mind as the beginning of a lot of negative things that have only snowballed over time.

[Anonymous No.23157441]

>>23157172
pic related is when it when to crap

[Anonymous No.23157455]

can't make money without chaos

[Anonymous No.23157466]

1971

[Anonymous No.23157485]

2000 was americas peak, the computer research of the past 30 years finally paid out in full, evident by the us tech stock/gold being the highest in history, including now. 9/11 was the signal to abandon ship. 2008 was the floor dropping out, anyone standing on it already got fucked, and the human pyramid has been falling apart ever since, except the fed made another floor higher up for millionaires. 2020 is that floor falling apart as well

[Anonymous No.23157499]

>>23157441
I can see an Executive Order 2025

All citizens to turn in their private keys

[Anonymous No.23157524]

>>23157199
checked and unironically true, zoom out to at least 1911....

[Anonymous No.23157571]

I feel like quality of life has actually gotten better, the media and news loves painting this picture of doom and gloom though.

[Anonymous No.23157578]

>>23157524
>1911
More like 1789

[Anonymous No.23157584]

Some time around when smartphones were released and websites such as facebook, reddit, and twitter started popping up. Though today I think the world has always been this cancerous, and I was merely oblivious, having isolated myself with other vidya nerds, animuh and some 3rd thing I just forgot. Feels fucking bad, man. Why can't they leave the fucking internet again.

[Anonymous No.23157598]

>>23157367
this . based

[Anonymous No.23157623]

>>23157418
This. 9/11 changed our timeline. Some say it opened a portal.

[Anonymous No.23157687]

>>23157578
Wasn't probably really that great after the fall of the Roman Empire. But unironically I also think that 1789 and the industrial revolution were the start of the entire shitshow. Another big bummer was 1913 and the foundation of the FED. Then 1914-1945 which destroyed European and white supremacy over the world. Then the 1968 "revolution" which destroyed remaining trad values. Then 2001, which initiated legit dystopia.

[Anonymous No.23157729]

>>23157172
when did ((you)) import niggers ?

[Anonymous No.23157745]

>>23157418
as if Columbine wasnt CIA kike niggers shit

[Anonymous No.23157753]

>>23157172
I actually like the modern world and feel content within it. I have access to an unlimited library of music and a high fidelity sound system. I got all of this shit for cheap, and can experience the entire catalogue of human creation in unlimited quantities for free.

Imagine having to buy a casette tape.

[Anonymous No.23157783]

>>23157441
Fucking jews man
>>23157367
Youre probably right.

[Anonymous No.23157842]

My life got twisted upside down around 2009 and its been full of bs inbetween the good stuff since. idk maybe the finanacial crisis had a knock on effect. I dont know why life punishes me so much, its probably because I dont have enough money ..yeah thats basically it.

[Anonymous No.23157849]

>>23157172
9/11 = wars in the middle east
and then social media

[Anonymous No.23157864]

2010, after smartphones

[Anonymous No.23157900]

>>23157172
Try the fall of the german roman empire, the fall of byzantine, the enlightment, ww2.

[Anonymous No.23157901]

>>23157753
>I can flood my brain with dopamine whenever I like. Life is great!
>>23157172
1913. Federal reserve and ADL were both formed. Side note: What group of people are associated with both?

[Anonymous No.23157931]

>>23157753
you should actually send some money to musicians if you like their work so much.

[Anonymous No.23157970]

Just don't use social media, and be more picky about the media and products you consume. It's literally that easy, don't let 4chan warp your world view so easy.

[Anonymous No.23157986]

2007 = iPhone, Twitter, Obama, and the housing peak

[Anonymous No.23158091]

>>23157172
Unironically early 2000s when they started pushing globo homo propaganda and laying the foundation for all the horrors you see today - celebrating abortions, kids taking hormones and mutilating their genitals, marxist indoctrination in schools and universities, cancel culture etc. The seeds of it all had been sowed long before, but up to the mid 2000s they still seemed fringe and you could still watch the disney channel and be mostly safe (think it was around this time Dan "the hymen divider" Schneider started being a thing and his shows). I was actually a proto-sjw in the early 2000s when stupid kids like me thought "the system" was republicans like Bush and rage against the machine were rebellious, but even then we would have never thought the left would go full blown insane like it is now. If only we knew what was coming....if only we knew

[Anonymous No.23158465]

>>23158091
think about what is coming
It is tenfold worse than what has happened so far

[Anonymous No.23158479]

>>23157172
>Why yes I'm 19 and also a fucking groomed schizo, how could you tell?

[Anonymous No.23158495]

>>23158465
as it was in the days of noah, so it shall be in the days of the coming of the son of man

[Anonymous No.23158496]

>>23157172
Despite the economy, and it may be because I avoided most of the effects of the housing crash because I graduated high school in 2008 and joined the military and had a steady income. I think things started going down hill around 2010 or so, especially regarding social media and the internet. You could really say whatever the fuck you wanted online. I'd say like 2014+ is when things really went to shit with society

[Anonymous No.23158524]

>>23157172
The us was #2 in economic freedom in the world in 2020. Now we're #18. Economic freedom is very highly correlated with high standards of living and high levels of happiness.

[Anonymous No.23158535]

>>23157931
I make music and release it for free. Music should exist as an independent endeavor, away from capitalism. If you make music to make money, you are not making music for the right reason.

IMO, if I can "print" unlimited pieces of a form of art for basically free, I should want everyone in the world who could enjoy it to do so.

[Anonymous No.23158588]

>>23157901
>Dismissing expression within the human experience as "flooding your brain with dopamine"

Art is perhaps the most imporant reason for human existence. Otherwise, we are a flawed life form continually perpetuating itself whose only hope outside of creating beautiful things is creating a more perfect being.

[Anonymous No.23158590]

>>23157172
definitely the smartphone, it enabled all the rest.

[Anonymous No.23158627]

>>23158535
how do you generate income? or do you expect a UBI?

[Anonymous No.23158648]

>>23158588
I absolutely agree. I play music myself. I presumed too much by calling you a dopamine junkie,but there is serious problems with the world today and being able to listen to music digitally instead of on cassette like you mentioned earlier hardly impacts my life or anyone else's.

[Anonymous No.23158649]

>>23158535
>that plebbit spacing
jeez, are you using veg sustainable cables too?

[Anonymous No.23158668]

If I'm zooming out and looking at history, probably 1913 with the federal reserve. If I want to simplify things, I'd say it was the iphone and social media by around 2010.

[Anonymous No.23158680]

>>23158627
Working a job, obviously. If people expressed themselves strictly for the sake of it, instead of for fame or money, music would be better in general. Anyone who creates art hoping to profit endlessly from it is not a true artist.

Painters, I can understand charging for their work. It's only one. But if you could 3d print a million exact replicas of a painting with a machine, which is a technology that may exist in our lifetime, what is the capital value of it beyond the canvas?

[Anonymous No.23158685]

>>23158627
investments or a real job on the side

the other anon is right - music that is made because the artist needs a paycheck shouldn't fucking exist

[Anonymous No.23158707]

>>23157753
Literal NPC or bait

[Anonymous No.23158710]

>>23158680
The only reason we have good music is through profit driven innovation just like EVERYTHING else. What communist country has created great music? With any art, if it's good people buy it, if it's shit they don't. Are you retarded?

[Anonymous No.23158720]

>>23157970
Who else? Fucking CNN?

[Anonymous No.23158744]

>>23158524
its 2020 now. did you mean at the start of 2020 vs october 2020?

[Anonymous No.23158761]

>>23158465

[Anonymous No.23158763]

>>23158720
take the clownpill

[Anonymous No.23158772]

>>23158648
It impacts my life to an insane degree that I can instantly listen to an artist in Berlin's recording, or find music from 1960's Niger or 1980's Cambodia within a second. I will never get bored of this. If I had to go to a record store to buy a CD every time I wanted one, which I had to do as a kid, I would likely become bored of music. I do think these formats lead to more focus on albums as a creative process and make most people listen to the same dumb trap song 3,000 times over and over again. I don't care about that. Most people can be stupid and depressed and not care about art and complain endlessly. I wish them well. I'll invest my time being around people who appreciate art and bring joy into my life.

[Anonymous No.23158779]

>>23158465
Yes, but also remember this: we have progressed past much worse already. Leftists claim to be "progressive" but they are the opposite - they want to return to the time of soddom & Gomorrah, to times in which it was ok and normal to prostitute your prepubescent daughters in temples, where sacrificing newborn babies to demonic deities in exchange of favors was done openly by the "leaders" and priests, where every vice and sin was committed openly and even celebrated. Humanity,or at least the West, evolved past this and curbed our animalistic excesses, we saw that this was wrong and wove a set of moral beliefs into the fabric of our society and looked back with horror at the times where human sacrifice pedophilia and ritual prostitution were the norm.

The luciferians, the saturn cultists, the sjws, the cultural marxists want to return to those times and celebrate sin and impurity to push humanity further away from the divine, but we have moral and spiritual guidance of those who fought against this in the past.

[Anonymous No.23158780]

>>23158680
what are your opinions on the grateful dead?

[Anonymous No.23158800]

>>23157687
>>23158668
>>23157901
Based 1913bros.

[Anonymous No.23158812]

>>23158710
Uhhh...wanting a paycheck just makes people write the same stupid song over and over again without purpose. Are you literally dismissing the works of Shostakovich?

Fucking pleb.

[Anonymous No.23158825]

>>23158800
checked, 1913-18 was a real turning point. WW1 happened which also made immutable changes to the course of history

[Anonymous No.23158837]

>>23158779
>The luciferians, the saturn cultists, the sjws, the cultural marxists
just say the jews
one simple little syllable

[Anonymous No.23158838]

>>23157172
1850 or the assassination of ceaser

[Anonymous No.23158849]

>After 255 bc everything went downhill
I think that OP meant "in your experience", fucking tards

[Anonymous No.23158865]

>>23158780
I really have that much of an opinion. I don't dislike them, but it doesn't connect with me on an emotional level like it does for others. Jerry Garcia is a great guitarist, but I generally listen to songs for their emotional content rather than technical proficiency.

[Anonymous No.23158870]

>>23157172
>Business & Finance

[Anonymous No.23158890]

>>23157172
9/11... antisocial social media gains reactions..
Security gone mental
USA started a war to invade most of the middle East...through direct invasion and "Arab springs" arming the very terrorists they had locked up. Mass migrations of minorities... 10 years of "these people are racists" changed to "give them free money and housing next to you" overnight... big shift from chocolates bars saying its so big its not for girls to Canada debating whether to make calling someone the wrong pronoun illegal. Body dysmophia is now called trans... trannys are no longer outgoing guys kissing about...It's mentally unstable.

[Anonymous No.23158905]

>>23158837
I forgot to say "the sabbatean frankists". The clintons arent jews. The people in our government involved in this shit arent all "jews". Of course some of the top families involved in this like the Rothschilds are satan-worshipping jews and the jews are over represented in the globohomo kabal, but you are retarded if you think the black nobility and other powerful people pushing this into the open are all jews.

[Anonymous No.23158909]

>>23158870
Yes.

[Anonymous No.23158941]

>>23158909
Your point?

[Anonymous No.23158952]

>>23157441
1913, The Federal Reserve Act
1914, WWI

[Anonymous No.23158972]

>>23158905
>The clintons arent jews. The people in our government involved in this shit arent all "jews".
they are funded by, and do the bidding of, jews. throwing around all this esoteric lingo without acknowledging the ubiquitous poison known as jew money that flows from soros, AIPAC, the ADL, SPLC, the federal reserve, etc is peak midwit. all higher ups at every institution i mentioned are jews. yammer about all the shady mysterious gray men behind the scenes all you like, but the kikes have names and addresses

[Anonymous No.23158974]

>>23157172
Around 2012 when memes went mainstream.

[Anonymous No.23158982]

>>23158909
I also don't think a discussion about "why we do business" is off topic. It's actually more important than people shilling Desire Finance.

[Anonymous No.23158983]

>>23158941
something tells me that graph extended out to 2020 would be extremely depressing

[Anonymous No.23159004]

>>23157172
Giving women and minorities equal rights

[Anonymous No.23159005]

>>23158941
>real income
>in $

[Anonymous No.23159021]

>>23158972
100% but if israel was nuked tomorrow this shit would still happen because it has been happening since before any of those organizations you mentioned existed. I suggest you look into european nobility before you say its ONLY the jews they arent the only players

[Anonymous No.23159025]

>>23157172
>When did everything start to go downhill? Im thinking around 2000-2005.


Actualy it was 5th of June 1998

[Anonymous No.23159047]

>>23158983
Yes, because we're all in echo chambers and irately mad at each other. Everyone is a victim, even people who are right wing. White people are victims because we live in a society of diversity, which will never be enough. Black people are victims because of the socioeconomic and systemic racist system. Gay people are victims because of homophobia. Straight people are victims of hypergamy at the hands of Jews.

Is this the end point of increasingly narrowcast media echo chambers? What if we stopped self-victimizing and stopped taking the world around us for granted, though? We are living in a time of unlimited prosperity and unprecedented technological innovation and yet we have nothing but contempt for our fellow man.

[Anonymous No.23159066]

>>23157753
If you’re content now, it’s because they havent got around to squeezing you yet. Everything can be monetized and sold, including happiness and love. It’s like Upton Sinclair wrote in The Jungle, "They use everything about the hog except the squeal."

[Anonymous No.23159083]

>>23159047
>Black people are victims because of the socioeconomic and systemic racist system.

[Anonymous No.23159096]

>>23159021
>100% but if israel was nuked tomorrow this shit would still happen
yes, because the jewish diaspora is at least as powerful as israel itself
>european nobility
ashkenazi diaspora and a handful of dutch and british shabbos goyim. there are certainly goy lunatics running amok but the jew is the root of it all. always has been, always will be until someone does something

[Anonymous No.23159107]

>>23159066
Yeah, but the hangover from ecstasy isn't worth it. No one has ever created a drug that feels as nice as love does, without a huge fucking crash. Although, I guess unless we die in a tragic car accident with someone, love has a crash too.

[Anonymous No.23159151]

>>23158588
If art hasn’t already shown you what a fucked up world we live in, then you don’t really appreciate or understand it. Great art opens eyes (which is why most art and media today is garbage, to keep our eyes closed).

[Anonymous No.23159154]

>>23157172
things are going uphill
we are just in a transitioning point right now

have patience

[Anonymous No.23159158]

>>23157466

This is when the money started drying up, and wages split from labor.

[Anonymous No.23159171]

>>23159047
One could wish. The amount of money that has been made by setting up those echo chambers that tap into our protohuman instinct of fear of the "other" is disgusting. I don't see how it can last much longer

[Anonymous No.23159173]

>>23157578
Based and articles of confederation pilled

[Anonymous No.23159179]

>>23159083
kek

[Anonymous No.23159191]

>>23158941

Your graph rates 'happiness', which could mean almost anything they wish for it to mean.

[Anonymous No.23159224]

>>23158680
The capital value is that that person can continue painting. Without money that painter would have to quit painting and get a job in a bank. You give them money to support what they are doing with their lives.

[Anonymous No.23159229]

>>23159151
I disagree. Art can be beautiful, or it can be hideous. It's just the expression of the human form. Stalker by Tarkovsky is no more legitimate than Pas De Deux by Tchaikovsky. If you want to sit in your room and listen to throbbing gristle all day, that's a choice. Music is a reflection of the human condition for and all it's beauty and all it's horrors. It is beautiful, though, and there is something beautiful about the feeling of sadness, sometimes. Like fear, etc. All of these negative emotions are somehow pleasant in some way. I may be crazy and brain damaged in my analysis of this. Why else would we ever create a horror movie or a sad film?

[Anonymous No.23159232]

>>23159047
>We are living in a time of unlimited prosperity and unprecedented technological innovation and yet we have nothing but contempt for our fellow man.

Based and redpilled.
>>23159096
>european nobility are ashkenazi and a few dutch and british shabbos goyim
And here I thought you were smart. Again, 100% of jews could dissapear tomorrow and this shit would still go on because it has been happening for far longer and actually involves plenty of "pure blooded" european royals that even look with disdain on jews. Its like you are close to grasping the truth but are so salty about your missing foreskin you miss the forest for the trees and can only see big noses. That said the influence of jewish lobbies in american policy is absolutely disgusting and jewish groups are behind much of the globohomo push and are vastly overrepresented. Their subversiveness against host countries is legendary

[Anonymous No.23159249]

>>23158685
so all artists should only do art part time? if they’re good and their art is worthwhile i would like to see them do it full time. there actually is great commercial art out there.

[Anonymous No.23159251]

>>23159047
>We are living in a time of unlimited prosperity and unprecedented technological innovation and yet we have nothing but contempt for our fellow man.
based

[Anonymous No.23159254]

>>23157172
12000 Years ago.

[Anonymous No.23159270]

>>23159224
If someone wants to make paintings all day and can profit enough to gain equipment, I'm supportive of that. I'm just saying the human capital of art has been disregarded and has always been undervalued within all capitalist societies. Uncoupling the ideas of art from capitalism is important. Also, no, I am emphatically not a commie.

[Anonymous No.23159282]

>>23157172
It began in the late 1800's/early 1900's with the phonograph.
>Edison
>The Wizard of Menlo Park

[Anonymous No.23159292]

>>23158710
>What communist country has created great music?
Uh, anon...
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Music_of_Cuba

[Anonymous No.23159308]

>>23159254
unironically this

[Anonymous No.23159332]

>>23158710
Looking at Russian commies specifically, soviet movies, while going through strict censor filter, were top quality compared to shit they make in Russia today. Some of their comedies can unironically compete with top Hollywood comedies from 20th century. Same applies to music, everything Russia produces today is crap. So I wouldn't say capitalism dynamics are always beneficiary to music quality.

[Anonymous No.23159337]

>>23158710
also anon, you should ask an actual musician what they would do if they didn’t need money. when artistic people have more free time they spend it creating things. they don’t just fuck around and play wow all day. is that what you do?

[Anonymous No.23159383]

>>23158772
what about playing music yourself? it used to be that the average person could improvise and play music themselves (and sing and dance too). now nobody can dance and people treat learning a musical instrument like it’s learning Chinese or something.

it’s really pathetic when consuming art only inspires you to consume even more art. doesn’t anything ever inspire you to ACTION?

[Anonymous No.23159396]

>>23159337
I don't tour. A musician who has made a piece of music who chooses to perform it live should profit.

If you can copy and paste something endlessly, no, someone should absolutely not profit off it. It's like paying every photographer for every photo they've taken when posting it on 4chan. It's fucking stupid. Anyone who doesn't want every single person to listen to their work, regardless of their socioeconomic status class, is not an artist.

[Anonymous No.23159406]

>>23159332
>The impact of the 15000 authentically dressed extras, recreating the battle sections with true numbers without special effects, is unsurpassed, and was the highest number of costumed extras in any film.
I fucking hate Disney so goddamned much.

[Anonymous No.23159420]

>>23159332
One of the absolute greatest films of all time, Bondachurk's War and Peace was made in soviet times, actually it could ONLY have been made with the backing of a totalitarian regime like the USSR not only because it would the the most expensive film ever produced in history, but because otherwise how would you get entire armies to go on the field as extras for the Battle of Borodino scene? How could you get such nationalist and idealistic support from the cast and crew during the almost 10 years of filming? Having said that, even with all the great things the soviets produced, why were artists,musicians,dancers,filmmakers,scientists, and athletes deflecting to the West? There is your answer - regimes might make "artistically great" works but at the end of the day they are still prisons made of gold and humans will always strive to be free.

[Anonymous No.23159429]

>>23159383
Yes. I compose music. I do it because I enjoy doing it, and I feel the need to express myself and my emotions sometimes. Language is a limited barrier at times, and somehow music can say things in a way words can't.

No, I am not shilling my fucking work on 4chan's business board like an asshole. My level of success does not matter to the integrity of my art. I made it because I had to.

[Anonymous No.23159441]

>>23158972
actually the clintons, bushes, gores, trumps, etc are literal genetic jews. look up miles mathis, they leave all the geneology of famous people online because they know most people wont ever connect the dots.

of course there are plenty of poor/middle classe jews who are no different from anyone else.

[Anonymous No.23159452]

>>23157571
Fuck off normie.

[Anonymous No.23159482]

>>23158524
>believing meme indices curated by (((experts))) in current year
unironically ngmi

[Anonymous No.23159506]

>>23158710
Music hasn't been fucking good since the goddamn 1800's nigger I bet you listen to fucking rap.

[Anonymous No.23159586]

>>23159506
>since the 1800s
Look at this pretentious faggot.

[Anonymous No.23159641]

I was born in 1999, smart phones were becoming popular once I entered high school. tell me what it was like before everyone was fixated on a screen for the endless dopamine feedback loop bros

[Anonymous No.23159660]

>>23159506
Eh, you seem like an angry moron. I listen to pretty much every genre of music from classical to ambient to harsh noise to rap to rocksteady to jazz to minimalist techno to trance to afrobeat to aboriginal music to NDW to EBM to country to pop to punk to post-punk to reggae to ye ye to post-club to DnB to to new wave to the spiritual music of India to IDM to blues to folk to twee, to shoegaze, to natural ocean sounds etc, etc. etc. etc. etc. etc. etc. etc.

Basically, you're stupid and deserve to be mad.

[Anonymous No.23159744]

>>23158905
>hasn't read culture of critique

[Anonymous No.23159752]

>>23159292
While the Cuban regime has invested a lot of money and human resources into its arts programs with world-renowned results, musicians and performers on tour outside of Cuba are blackmailed with their families to prevent deflections and even then many have deflected over the years. Can you show one example of musicians from western countries fearing for their families safety when they went on tour and escaping to communist regimes?

[Anonymous No.23159753]

>>23159047
>We are living in a time of unlimited prosperity
then why don’t i have a house and a wife asshole? i followed the advice of everyone around me my whole life and got shit for it. actually believing in my society got me to serving in the army and going to iraq without ever having kissed a girl. and the money i made in that time barely put a dent in my student debt. even though that was 12 years ago it’s taken me since that time to finally dig myself out of that financial and psychological hole and the more i look around the more i see that everything we’re taught is a giant fucking scam designed to take our money and make us all crazy. fuck your technology, i would trade it all for qt wife and family. (not that tech is even causing these problems, or that "capitalists" (corporate gibs-collecting and patent-stealing thieves) are responsible for our technology.)
>stop self victimizing
im trying to fix problems you fucking braindead NPC beetle. step one is complain about the problems with like-minded people in order to wrap our heads around them. you’re saying there are no problems, or the problem is in my head, or what exactly? great you have no problems so go away. we’re trying to figure stuff out here.

[Anonymous No.23159782]

>>23159107
you misunderstand me. i mean, when you want to be loved but cant find anyone to love you, you buy consumer shit to replace the hole in your heart. THAT’S how they farm love.

[Anonymous No.23159824]

>>23159744
>thinks this shit started with the frankfurt school
>>23159660
Based anon my music library has samples from all those genre you mentioned I have been in heavy metal moshpits, 3 day long rave festivals, seen Ennio Morricone live, smoked ganja at groundation concerts and more. I want to make it so I can travel and enjoy shit like that all over the world.

[Anonymous No.23159843]

>>23157172
started after the 2000's and the bigs years after that i think are 2008 because we saw social media becoming a monster and then around 2015 where the monster mutated. and now literally everything is shit.

[Anonymous No.23159857]

>>23159753
You sound like a whiny nigger stfu and take some responsibility you would definitely not have "made it" or had a house and wife 50 years ago faggot

[Anonymous No.23159869]

>>23159824

Frankfurt school is only one chapter in that book. Goes back about 50 years before that as well. I'm not denying black nobility, just that jews have clearly been the forerunners of globalhomo.

[Anonymous No.23159872]

>>23159229
>Why make horror movies
So the average girl is afraid of men, making it harder for men and women to get together. Less happy couples, more people buying consumer shit and making trillionaires even richer. Horror/slasher movies are for the most part a psyop.

[Anonymous No.23159904]

Unironically the Enlightenment

[Anonymous No.23159931]

>>23159753
All of human existence there have been problems. I'm saying if we focus our energy only on narrowcast forums of thought, we will natually become more extreme in our beliefs and our beliefs will become more and more distant from reality. We cannot collectively create a better society for ourselves. Healthy societies operate under the principles of game theory. We sometimes have to make sacrifices for the greater good of the greater society. Seeing this as a form of victimization leads to depression and the types of schizo extremism popping up on /pol/.

Yes, you can't afford a house. You do not deserve a house by birthright, and the idea that the house is something that will bring you happiness is believing in a broken system which celebrates materialism. What if you had a house, and you had a wife, and you still felt unfulfilled? Relationships are hard work. Stop simplifying reality and pretend that you deserve anything from birthright. You need to work on yourself, and happiness from within yourself before you look to attain things. Material happiness is a fleeting feeling, but the desire for security is a legitimate one.

We can and must work on these problems together. If we are together, we can be more successful. If we listen to others voices, we will succeed together. If we divide ourselves and self-victimize endlessly, we will never create a better society for all. We will all wallow in our misery chambers and live our existence believing in false prophets if not decaying nihilism. Find your own happiness in this system, which as broken as it is, is quite better than existence in all of human history.

[Anonymous No.23159932]

>>23159869
Right but who enabled them in the first place? You think the people in power and the elite didnt notice a bunch of hooknosed "intellectuals" being subversive? Im all for calling (((them))) out as long as it doesnt result in missing some of the other players that collaborated with their master satan in planning funding amd enabling this.

[Anonymous No.23159935]

>>23159232
"pure blooded" nobility are all descended from phoenicia (ancient pre-israel). that’s not a racist statment, but the bloodlines are important. and yes normal people can be corrupted too but the corruption also has a source. look up the work of miles mathis.

[Anonymous No.23159950]

>>23157367
This

[Anonymous No.23159972]

>>23159270
art has been purposely destroyed by the CIA so real artists cant find work. they have ADMITTED TO THIS so there is no denying it. look up the book "the cultural cold war" by francis stonor saunders. also the miles mathis article on said book.

[Anonymous No.23159986]

>>23159935
You will be interested in this anon...
https://teknatoutheou.wordpress.com/

[Anonymous No.23160001]

>>23159935
The romans warred with the phoenician city-state of carthage and finally razed it to the ground and some of the bloodlines come from roman noble families as well. Others come from germanic nobility that rose after the fall of the western roman empire. I admit that I do not enough about this subject becuase finding good sources is very very hard, do you have any you might want to share?

[Anonymous No.23160008]

>>23159931
Is that the Royal "We?"

[Anonymous No.23160124]

>>23159972
art has been destroyed by edgy French faggot nihilists. Look at de Sade to understand French culture.

[Anonymous No.23160144]

>>23159396
if the music is good and unique and adds something to people’s lives, they should be compensated in some way because the composition itself takes time, and if they dont get paid then we get less of their compositions. touring has nothing to do with it. if you dont support a musician you like and they have to stop making music then you are partially responsible for that.

[Anonymous No.23160170]

>>23160124
The French have been degenerates for ages with their anal sex. Syphilis is named after them.

[Anonymous No.23160265]

>>23159429
well there are some people out there who are great at making music but dont have other skills that would put them above a mcjob. performing music and writing music are two different skills. if a writer (of any kind, not just music) cant get paid because everyone just copies and pastes their work without supporting the artist, the artist has to quit and do something else. it’s not about supporting everything everyone posts, only the stuff you like.

it seems that you think you can appreciate art without really showing appreciation to the one who makes the art. i write music too but that doesn’t mean i would never pay for some else’s if they needed fans support to keep on what they were doing.

(on patreon, etc, not on 4chan. who the fuck buys art on 4chan?)

[Anonymous No.23160303]

>>23159752
that’s moving the goalposts. im not defending communism, im saying we dont need capitalism to produce good music. actually the top 40 you hear on the radio is the culmination of capitalism in a way. they make garbage on pirpose because it’s easier to sell shit to people who are raised to have no taste.

[Anonymous No.23160343]

>>23159857
like i just said, complaining is the first step toward fixing the problem. people who call me a whiny nigger are content to ignore the problem and pretend it doesn’t exist. have fun never fixing problems in your own life though.

[Anonymous No.23160673]

>>23159931
>if we focus our energy only on narrowcast forums of thought
you mean, if we use our brains for thinking. fucking glownigger shit.

>We sometimes have to make sacrifices for the greater good of the greater society.
all major problems in society are manufactured to make more money for people who are already trillionaires/quadrillionaires. there is no "greater good" here.

>You do not deserve a house by birthright.
rich kids get a house by birthright. they also hold all the developed (and undeveloped) land in the world, and drive up real estate prices to the point where you have giant empty apartment complexes with nobody in them, which the built woth government grants and tax-free loans to "stimulate the economy". You shouldnt have to work 40 years of your life just to no longer be a renter, and still pay land tax and death tax so cant even pass it down to your kids.

>What if you had a house, and you had a wife, and you still felt unfulfilled?
Wow you’re right i guess i should get nothing because if i get my basic human needs fulfilled i might just decide i don’t like it anyway.

Relationships are hard work.
I DID work hard, that’s the point. The point here isn’t me, i was just using myself as an example. The point is MOST PEOPLE ON THIS BOARD are basically unhappy people who are trying to figure out where everything went wrong. We don’t need someone saying "let’s come together" after being fucked over by other people again and again. there IS an "us vs. them" here, either you’re not seeing it (in which case you’re not helping us solve our problems) or your a fucking glowie who gets paid to post on 4chan (and don’t tell me those dont exist, a simple google search will prove it).

[Anonymous No.23160686]

>>23157172
It was in the 2nd Century, when Emperor Hadrian didn't finish the job.
Imagine a world without Jews.

[Anonymous No.23160699]

>>23159931

>If we divide ourselves and self-victimize endlessly, we will never create a better society for all
The people who own everything dont WANT a better society for all. They profit from a diseased society like the one you (dont) see today. They hate regular people and you can see it in everything they do.

[Anonymous No.23160803]

>>23157172
The French Revolution.

[Anonymous No.23160938]

>>23159931
>You do not deserve a house by birthright

>be most intelligent ape
>apex predator of all life on the planet thanks to big brain and co-operation
>dont DESERVE to own a collection of refined sticks and mud and shiny rocks
>You need to work on yourself, and happiness from within yourself before you look to have a measure of security for your family and possestions and basic protection from the weather.

[Anonymous No.23160939]

>we dont need capitalism to produce good music
Absolutely true.
>>23160343
All Im saying is that you have been born into the greatest country in the world at a time of unprecedented prosperity, you made the wrong desicions and arent successful how is that "society's" fault? Just look at the great depression and americans not having enough to eat through no fault of their own. If you really went to the army how did you ever get in student debt if the g.i bill pays for your education? Like I said its not about "ignoring problems" its just that if you think life is hard right now it was much much harder the further you go back in history. No one owes you anything, you arent owed a house or a job much less a wife. Being born American already gives you and advantage people literally die trying to get. From someone claiming to be military you sure whine a lot you certainly arent going to fix shit by complaining.

[Anonymous No.23161064]

>>23159932

Point taken. Traitors are worse than the jews.

[Anonymous No.23161443]

In GBR we were always proud of how well integrated the country was, this changed since 2011 when the media began its relentless campaign to bring American identity politics to us. I foresaw this as a kid being an early adopter of the internet, the idea of political ideas being spread like viruses around the world, now that its here I can't quite believe how fast it happened. Also there does seem to be some correlation between the death of the occupy wallstreet movement and the rise of the "all whites are evil" movement. Seems like it may well be a concerted effort by the media/corporations/banks to take the heat off themselves by poitnting the finger at whitey for all the worlds troubles. Sometimes I think the media could be run by a super based Nu Hitler playing 4d chess pumping out all this BLM horse shit knowing full well that its going to galvanise the white race...

[Anonymous No.23161484]

its was around 2010 - 2011. That's when a lot of stuff music/movies/TV went to shit.

[Anonymous No.23161714]

>>23159931
this post glows so hard I could read it from outside on the street

[Anonymous No.23162034]

>>23159047
>We are living in a time of unlimited prosperity and unprecedented technological innovation

you are naive as fuck.

[Anonymous No.23162078]

>>23157499
How are they going to collect something in my mind?

[Anonymous No.23162222]

>>23157367
It happened in the late 1800s where everything "irreversibly" was set on the path

[Anonymous No.23162302]

>>23157388
You were owned by Jews before that unfortunately my burger friend. I mean no sarcasm when I say that it saddens me somewhat to see the brave, pioneering burger race (ok you've always been mystery meat, but you get my point) bred into a broken, servile slave race.

[Anonymous No.23162344]

>>23157753
>I have magic yum yum treats but have less power than a medieval peasant and will probably never afford a family
BASED CONSOOOMER

[Anonymous No.23162351]

>>23157745
That's irrelevant

[Anonymous No.23162433]

>>23158091
>taking on a caring, mentor like relationship with a 16 year old "girl", forming a stable pair bond as her protector = EVIL SICK FILTH
>reaming a 7 year old boy's shithole; not only tearing apart the tender flesh of his colon but the tender flesh of his very soul, self worth, and masculinity = BRAVE AND NOBLE

YEAH, I'M FINNA HAVE TO GIVE DEM FEMINIST NIGGAS A BASED ON THIS ONE

[Anonymous No.23162471]

The Balfour Declaration in 1917.

"The Balfour Declaration was a public statement issued by the British government in 1917 during the First World War announcing support for the establishment of a "national home for the Jewish people" in Palestine, then an Ottoman region with a small minority Jewish population."

[Anonymous No.23162614]

I still have never heard a convincing argument for "muh jews"
master elite? yes of course there is
but jews? eh dunno

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