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Sovereigns edition

>Bullion dealers
https://apmex.com
https://jmbullion.com
https://sdbullion.com
https://bgasc.com
https://providentmetals.com
https://moneymetals.com
https://monumentmetals.com
https://goldenstatemint.com
https://gainesvillecoins.com
https://silvertowne.com
https://goldsilver.com
https://pinehurstcoins.com
https://goldsilver.be
https://europeanmint.com
https://bullionbypost.com
https://silver-to-go.com
https://perthmint.com
https://swanbullion.com

>Constitutional/"Junk" silver info
https://jmbullion.com/ultimate-guide-to-90-silver-coins
https://kevinsworkbench.com/junksilverguide
http://coinflation.com
http://coinapps.com

>Compare
https://findbullionprices.com (US)
https://eu.compare.pm (EU)

>General News
https://kitco.com
http://silverseek.com
https://mining.com

>Bullion tax info by state
https://apmex.com/state-sales-tax-information

>Prospecting
https://usgs.gov/energy-and-minerals/mineral-resources-program/science
https://gov.bc.ca/assets/gov/farming-natural-resources-and-industry/mineral-exploration-mining/documents/mineral-titles/mt-faqs/faq_fmc.pdf
https://mndm.gov.on.ca/en/mines-and-minerals/mining-act
https://amazon.ca/Gold-Creeks-Ghostowns-British-Columbia/dp/088839988X

>Other
https://fakebullion.com/index.php/resources/fake-bullion-database
https://fakebullion.com/index.php/resources/identifying-fake-bullion

>YouTube/Podcasts
https://youtube.com/user/silverguru
https://youtube.com/user/SprottGlobal
https://youtube.com/user/KitcoNews
https://youtube.com/user/GoldAndSilverClub1
https://youtube.com/user/whygoldandsilver
https://youtube.com/channel/UCED7G7CZfqdSV9zttlr1M_g
https://youtube.com/user/belangp

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>>23110388

>> No.23127587

>>23127523
Worth the premium?

>> No.23127696

>>23127587
Be honest with yourself.

>> No.23127854

https://gematriaeffect.news/fratelli-tutti-pope-francis-post-covid-world-encyclical-dated-october-3-2020/

>> No.23128068

>>23127854
Are you the Gematria website creator?

>> No.23128072
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>> No.23128092

>>23127556
you put your name as PMG retard.

Anyways how can I as a burger buy canadian mining stocks? Every time I try I get jewed by a a 50$ international trading fee... Is there any way around this?

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Just got some memes in the mail today!

>> No.23128194

>>23128092
>Anyways how can I as a burger buy canadian mining stocks?

Yeah, I'm cucked out of some juicy juniors on Vanguard, will an Etrade account get access to stuff like Bayhorse, Fireweed, SSE, the TSX-V stocks?

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>>23127556
When he buys a precious metal mine, you'll know it's begun and ended.

>> No.23128219

If I had a thousand dollars to throw into investing in one mine, what would the general recommendation be?

>> No.23128310

>>23128215
he did/will?

>> No.23128341
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Quick question anons. Cleaning your old silver bullion bars with silver polish cleaner? Y/N?

My grandpa left me a couple of 100 gram silver bars and they look like this. Next to mine they look like shit. And my mum's silver polish works like magic for the silver cutlery.

Surely a little polish wouldn't hurt...

>> No.23128348

>>23128310
Yes.

>> No.23128415

>>23128219
I personally like Silver One.

>> No.23128458

>>23128140
Fuck. I want to buy a goldback.

>> No.23128507

>>23128415
I'll start researching.

>> No.23128552

>>23128341
How old are the bars?
If they're old, you could risk ruining their premium (if they're worth more than spot)

>> No.23128762

>>23128458
Such a high premium though even for a dollars worth of gold. Neat concept but I can't justify buying some.

>> No.23128896

>>23128552
Not that much, probably from the 80s from the old spanish assotiation of Precious Metals. Haven't seen any of them selling on ebay or any info on the internet about them.
This side is quite clean, but the other one is complete garbage

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>>23128896
Forgot pic

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>>23127556
nice to meet you '/pmg/ precious metals general', im dad

>> No.23129072

>>23128215
He will focus on nickel/lithium for now at least

>> No.23129119

>>23128219
In one place? Some major cap like Barrick or First Majestic. Or an ETF I guess, haven't researched those though

>> No.23129152

>>23128341
do NOT clean it

>> No.23129158

>>23129072
There can be more than one or two metals in certain industrial grounds

>> No.23129195

>>23129158
Yes I know.

>> No.23129226

>>23128194
Schwab gets me access to them, I think Fidelity does too.

>> No.23129243
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Ah yes. The price of gold continues to swing violently for no reason. Nothing to see here folks no market manipulation here.

>> No.23129256

>>23129152
Why? My bar isn't the one from that post, it is this one >>23128942

Why shouldn't I have the brightest silver to play with if the premium on that shitty bar is probably 0??

>> No.23129382

>>23128092
Ah crap my bad

>> No.23129427

>>23129256
Because the premium may be higher if you keep it the way it is. Why do you need to clean it?

>> No.23129429

Is the money metal exchange starter kit worth it? Also, are they legit?

>> No.23129433

>>23129226
do they charge you an extra $50 fee for international trade? Vanguard and Ally do for me

>> No.23129536

>>23129429
money metals is legit.

>> No.23129561

>>23129427
Shiny things feel better than non shiny things. That is literally it.

>> No.23129636
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23129636

what's up with Aurcana? haven't heard anything from them in 2 months

>> No.23129694

>>23128942

Looks like a cool bar, never seen one before so maybe it has collector value but I see no harm polishing it especially if you don't scratch it. The bar is yours though, so you can do whatever you want fren!

>> No.23129751

>>23129636
4 weeks ago my aurcana stock was up $1,000 now I'm down $50

>> No.23129893

>>23129433
Schwab is free for OTCMKT

>> No.23129904

>>23129636
We will probably be hearing from them soon, there at high elevation to the exploration season there will be closing down for the winter.

>> No.23129941

>>23129119
Check out the sprott mining etf. It gives you good exposure to several mining companies including barrick and first majestic

>> No.23130015

>>23127556
Funny, I actually have been looking for a sovereign that I lost in my house somewhere a couple years ago. I keep hoping it will pop up, but this week starting deep cleaning my office in hopes of finding it.
I could use some help /biz/. Send me your energy.

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>>23130015
Good luck anon, sending my energie

>> No.23130291

>>23129429
I was thinking of getting that too because of the price. I ordered some leafs two weeks ago, but they have not shipped yet.

>> No.23130334

>>23130087
Toilet paper stacker? Nice

>> No.23130386
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sorry my focaccia took to long to prove for the new thread.

>> No.23130420

i stopped stacking at 30kg of silver and 1kg of gold and i am glad since the premiums now are way to high no i can yolo my spare money into some shitty ass stocks and hopefully make some good returns to buy real estate.

>> No.23130434

>>23127587
In the Uk yes, I can't get these £20 over spot, free postage, no VAT or CGT down the line

>> No.23130503

>>23130420
pics of this silver haul?

>> No.23130518

I'm doing a large order of roughly 5,000 dollars (first of a series of monthly orders I plan on doing) and I wanted to hear what mints I should order my coins from.

Right now it's between Britannia gold/silver coins or maple leafs. Does it matter which one I choose? Based in Europe so maybe UK Royal Mint coins have a better reputation here than Canadian ones.

>> No.23130546

>>23128981
Do a Libertarian on Gold perspective show for proof

>> No.23130563
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>>23128942
Sweet bar

>> No.23130586

>>23130518
Oh, I feel so sorry for you paying VAT tax on your silver. Get the britannia or Austiran philharmonics if you can to avoid the VAT, or you can buy silver shot and try to forge your own silver.

>> No.23130638

>>23130586

I'm going to order it from Estonia (where silver is VAT free) so don't think it will affect me. Also, going to order it through my company that I own so regardless I won't be paying VAT on it.

>> No.23130656

>>23129636

Still no $20 million financing. Stay away, and, if you still have any profits, take them and run. Sprott isn't invested for a reason. Few management teams have a worse record than that of AUN. For the same market cap you can still buy Irving Resources, which is also what I would recommend to >>23128219.

>> No.23130735

>>23130638
Ah, a based nation that fought the red menace for independence. Get the austrian or britannia, generic rounds, and/or american silver eagles for the 75th anniversary of ww2 coming out in november with very limited mintage.

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Where do you guys see gold by the end of the year? I need to decide if I wanna just eat a loss on these GDX calls now or ride it out.

>> No.23130816

Hey bros, how does one valuate a miner stock company? are there any resources/books that can introduce me to doing so? I want to start looking in depth into miners and know how to price them myself and compare to other miners, that way I could allocate stronger core positions in an educated manner. I want to thank you also for introducing me into PM's bought a small stack of silver.

Also what are some thoughts on Golden Minerals AUMN?

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Rolling for that cunt Speaker of the House to get bricked to death so I can get more trumpbux to sink into silver

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>>23130857
Based Pics

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>>23127556
Fresh off the presses

>> No.23131083

>>23130656
Sprott sued Aurcana years ago and lost, he isn't financing them no matter how high grade a mine.

https://www.globenewswire.com/news-release/2011/11/10/461292/237958/en/Aurcana-Corporation-BC-Supreme-Court-Dismisses-Sprott-Claim.html

Do you have a source that they are 20M away from financing? Questionable management can still make money with $20+ silver

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Fresh off the presses

>> No.23131291

>buy Russia coin
>click link
>no coin arrive?
>email sent
>what email?

Moral of the story. Do not buy from Russian websites.

>> No.23131403

>>23130656
Wow, getting sued by Eric Sprott. That has to be suicide in the PM industry.

>> No.23131673
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>>23131403
That was back when Aurcana had a beaner CEO, he's gone now. I really don't know how good, or bad, the new guy Kevin Drover is

>> No.23131726

>>23130638
>>23130735
only coins are VAT free - they are with a premium
silver bars are with 20% VAT

>> No.23131819

>>23130656
And silver miner anon, thanks for bringing up the concept of jurisdictional risk a couple weeks ago to those of us new to investing in miners. Your comments made me realized I was heavily overweighted in North America, and specifically in Mexico, which of course is a little risky. Now my portfolio has mining companies active in eight countries so I think I'm a little bit safer having such wide exposure. Appreciate that advice.

>> No.23132122

>gold, silver, platinum crabbing
>palladium keeps climbing
Why?

>> No.23132314

>>23128219
PAAS for no risks and guaranteed returns.

>> No.23132468

>>23132122
The name is cooler.

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>>23130087
thank you tp stacker anon
no luck today
but the office is looking pretty good

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>>23131819
Mexico might be pissy rn to get few extra shekels, but i believe long term it's way less risky than supposed 1st world countries like US or Canada, simply because the ecofascists are going to be a pain in the ass and will over regulate everything related to mining exploitation since it's extremely polluting and destructive environmentally. It already started where i live. And these kind of ecologists are way harder to bribe, it's still possible, but it cost way more and require more connexions, and even then a tiny scandale can blow things up. Meanwhile in shitholes like Mexico or Peru you just have to grease the paw of few low end politicians or cops to get things running smoothly and local scandals never get any international echoes since no one give a fuck about shitholes.
Desu the big brain move is to target countries shitty enough to have cheap corruption and no environmental outrage but not too shitty so the material dont get constantly stolen and your employees eaten by cannibal niggers.

>> No.23132746

>>23128762
I think they are actually worth around $1.90 but yeah.

>> No.23132833
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sovereign checking in

>> No.23132938

>>23132584
Cap and sunshines, nice pesos anon

>> No.23133211

>>23132685
The big difference is that the majority of mining companies are Canadian based, even if they're in different countries. There'd be a huge economic pressure backing the projects, even more then oil.

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Been looking forward to getting this pair of weighted Peruvian sterling candlestick holders in the mail, paid 120.24 total shipped. Gross weight 1.07kg

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>>23133558
Stripped them down and the yield was 440 grams! $300+ worth, definitely not bad. Peruvian sterling displays low quality craftsmanship but is usually quite thick gauge and deceptively heavy, so keep your eyes open for similar Peruvian good deals when out hunting. Others may assume it's typical weighted foil-gauge stuff yielding 10%-15% but don't overlook it yourself.

>> No.23133760

>>23133693
God Bles Beru.

>> No.23133840

>>23133558
how do you know if its weighted? I know most candlesticks and salt shakers are but can you tell by hallmarks?

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>>23133760
>God Bles Beru.

He blessed their silver mines at least.

>> No.23133960

>>23133859
Soar Silver Bird!

>> No.23133980

>>23133859
Sore silber brid!

>> No.23134008

I've got 50oz of silver bullion.
Am I gonna make it?

>> No.23134070

>>23134008
Not yet, m8.

>> No.23134150

>>23127587
Only if you're memeing, imo. I like them enough to say it was worth it for myself.

>> No.23134214

>>23129561
don't clean it, keep it as is to remember your grandpa by.

>> No.23134310

>>23130816
Just spend a lot of time here and read. Ive been at this two weeks or so now and in already learning how to interpret assay reports and read financials.

>> No.23134321
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>> No.23134351

>>23134321
Please spread this fud. I want more cheap gold and silver

>> No.23134686

Lmao I can't remember where I hid my silver.

>> No.23134722

>>23134321
It's easier to work with lead. Has been done before too.

>> No.23134818

>>23134686
Did you check the area where you last went boating?

>> No.23134843

>>23134818
You been watching me for long?

>> No.23135053

Junk gold>bu bullion coins >>>> gold bars

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>>23133840
>can you tell by hallmarks?

For US American sterling it is usually stamped "weighted" on the base, but no for this Peruvian set it was not marked as being weighted. The vast majority of candle holders and candelabra are all weighted/filled and if you ever inspect any personally you'd then recognize others easily. These were weighted with lead then filled with tar which is unusual.

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anyone had anything from Intaglio mint? apparently they do a 2020 kraken as well

>> No.23136122

>>23128415
Which silver one?

>> No.23136295

>>23136122
Ba dum tsss

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>> No.23136914

>>23131291
So that russian guy who was on here with his website turned out to be a scam?

>> No.23137034
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these guys coming in monday

>> No.23137047

>>23136914
Yeah, it was blatantly obvious from the get-go tbdesu.
>payment in crypto only
>"working on getting paypal up"
>free samples

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>>23137034
its 5 of the silver rounds*

>> No.23137170

>>23137047
Good thing I was too cheap and lazy to try and buy any of his stuff then.

>> No.23137272

>>23127556
There’s a disinformation campaign going on against oldsilver.ru right now as evidenced by >>23137047
>>23136914
>>23131291
He accepts payment with PayPal and credit card so the argument that he’s running a crypto scam is bullshit. Multiple anons itt have shown their packages from him. Do not listen to these people, they are disinformation shills and it shows because they don’t talk about precious metals

>> No.23137404

Kinross Gold will be announcing monster 3rd quarter profits and a dividend increase on Nov 4th, get in now while it's cheap

https://www.kinross.com/news-and-investors/news-releases/press-release-details/2020/Kinross-to-Announce-Q3FinancialResults-on-November-4-2020/default.aspx

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>>23137272
>1 post by this ID

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IT'S HAPPENING

>> No.23138509

>>23137272
>Do not listen to these people, they are disinformation shills
My question was actually an honest question because I have not heard much about RussAnon either way and wanted to see what other people thought.
>and it shows because they don’t talk about precious metals
See >>23132746
>>23137942
This.

>> No.23138569

>>23138505

this girl has exactly one single facial expression.

>> No.23138667

>>23138569
>anon!
>shave my back

>> No.23138694

>>23138667
> can do

she would look better with short hair anyway.

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less than $6 away from bathwater!

>> No.23138808

>>23138780
I've been on 4Chan a long time, and this still disgusts me more then most gore

>> No.23138824
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>>23138509
I mean... valid criticisms are one thing, but all I have seen are flat out lies and obvious jokes as far as anything negative about russia bros coins.

If he doesnt send you coins, you ask paypal for your money back, simple as, there is more accountability from his store then ebay...

Heck I have had brick and mortar stores in canada not send me silver after I paid, I hate scammers with a passion, but seems like the mistrust is mostly due to russiophobia rather then actual logical reasons.

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>>23138808
belle's hairy back and british munchie boxes disgust me more then mexican cartel gore.

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Reminder to always keep a firearm near your stacks.

>> No.23139011

>>23128092
I don’t know about you all... but because of Corona this is the first time since college that I’ve felt alive. I have lots of silver and been waiting for something like this to happen for 5 years. The point where things get so bad that 1 silver merc dime will buy me a blowjob from a formerly well to do housewife and her 18 year old daughter at the same time. I’ve been waiting in the shadows laughing at these cuck husbands who buy their wives range rovers instead of buying silver bullion... knowing that I’ll be face fucking their wives mouths for the 1.30$ it cost me to buy that silver dime.

Just yesterday at Whole Foods I seamlessly entered into conversation about Corona with a roastie milf that had a ring on her finger in the water aisle... and I said this is all a cover for trump to bring us back on a gold standard. She started looking at me in amazement like she wanted me to paint her lips in cum. At the end of the conversation I’m like take my number l have plenty of protection and freeze dried food if you ever need it and she took it from me

>> No.23139051

Why are there two /pmg/

>>23139011
Nice pasta

>> No.23139067

>>23139051
because this one doesnt have pmg in title so cant be searched

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gib asian momentum

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Part of me wants to gold to plummet back to the point where I can get a sovereign for $300 or less again.

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>>23139276

>> No.23139514
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>> No.23139525

>>23139276
>>23139443
Asian bump confirmed... we pumpkin’ boys. Digits and I post a stack pic for the first time

>> No.23139553
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>>23139525
How could I forget...

>> No.23139558

>>23139067
This

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>>23139443
sauce pls

ASIAN BUM!

>> No.23139702

>>23137272
Yeah, not sure why that is. I mean, it did take about a month for the package to arrive, but it did, and I could track it the whole way.

Now that he accepts PP and other non-crypto methods, I don't see why anyone's claiming he's a scam.

>> No.23140399

>>23139702
Post pics of the entire ordering process, from website to order to billing to package tracking to delivered metal with timestamps on every picture. That's the only way I'm going to believe that this guy is on the level.

Also,
>1 post by this ID

>> No.23140904

>>23138824
>I mean... valid criticisms are one thing, but all I have seen are flat out lies and obvious jokes as far as anything negative about russia bros coins.
Fair enough.
>but seems like the mistrust is mostly due to russiophobia rather then actual logical reasons.
My big issue is international shipping costs and that applies to more countries than just Russia. It's just easier to buy from American companies as an American. Nevertheless, I'm still interested in knowing more about this Russian store if anyone else has any input about it.

>> No.23140940

>>23140904
https://cointelegraph.com/news/russian-crypto-scams-triple-in-first-half-of-2020

I dunno about you, but the guy fits the profile of a scam to a T.

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>>23138694
>double checks photos
>well shit, he's right
its the whole flat elfin thing I think.

>> No.23141562

>>23140399
I mean, best I can do is screenshots of the tracking information if it still exists, being that y package was delivered already.

You're a retard if you think I'm gonna post personal information in emails and shit.

>> No.23141613

>>23139114
I dig it

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>>23139702
>>23141562
Well, that and I already have pics of the package and contents itself. Posted them back in a previous edition.

He ran a promotional giveaway for us /pmg/ frens, and thanks to you all being so cynical, he never got enough entries to really draw, so he just sent to every entrant. We got a choice between a Nazi set and a Soviet set and I opted for the latter. He was very prompt in getting back to everyone, and sending out packages. The only real 'delay' in shipping was the fact it went from near N.Korea's border to not far from Moscow en route to the USA.

He never said -what- was arriving, so I basically expected maybe a 15 Kopek piece (.500 fine) and a vodka token. He actually sent more than that: a Poltinnik (.900 fine), a 20 Kopek (.500), and a .5g vodka token (.5g, .999 fine).

Posting pic of contents, which had my ID from the thread I was posting in on it.

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>>23141836
>He ran a promotional giveaway for us
That's sketchy as shit and literally the kind of thing I would do if I was trying to trick a bunch of morons on 4chins into thinking that I was legit.
If you're not a cynic by now, you're not paying attention.

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>>23138505
Stop posting this stupid 3D pig

>> No.23142023

I’ve got 345oz of silver and 1/2 oz of gold
Am I gonna make it?

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Is this a souvenir scam or not? I just bought 10

>> No.23142232

>>23141923
Well, you'd have to ask someone that's ordered from him since.

I trust numbers, and he probably spent anywhere between $15-20 in coins and postage on the roughly dozen anons that entered. Considering /pmg/ isn't that big, that's a lot if he's gonna try to run a scam, all considered. You have to consider that he would only get a few orders in before the scam was sniffed out, and once that reputation is gone, it's gone for good.

>> No.23142253

>>23142096
Is that from the US Mint? Cancel that shit immediately. Why the hell are you paying over double spot for these things?

>> No.23142275

>>23142253
>$54 USD

In Australian dollars that would still be pricey lol

>> No.23142430

So basically silver eagles are gonna become even more unobtaium then they already are?

>> No.23142454

>>23142232
It's a moot point anyway because advertising on /biz/ is a bannable offense.

>> No.23142609

>>23142253
Idk aren't they different? Whatever, I'm retarded, I'll buy them off JM.

>> No.23142862

>>23141562
>You're a retard if you think I'm gonna post personal information in emails and shit.

You can trust me Anon ;)