Bad Boomer Business Advice

[Anonymous No.23103334]

When did you realize that the boomer/white trash/low IQ 'business success advice' was wrong? And that to succeed, it's really a combination of social climbing and unapologetic Machiavellianism?

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>told all my life, "son, to succeed, you have to be willing to do the work others aren't willing to do!"
>you just have to buckle down and work hard, and you'll get noticed

After slaving away like a wagie, I realized something.
1. Doing extra means I am forced to take on extra responsibilities with no extra financial compensation, and if you do get noticed, the most you get is a "good job"
2. People will see you as a doormat

To make a long story short, I read this book, quit my job, fudged my resume heavily, made friends with the right people, and now I'm making 180k y/r as a business analyst at the age of 32

I would say AMA, but just read this book. The book summary, all of the boomer success advice you got was wrong, it wasn't training you for success, it was training you to be a good goy slave

[Anonymous No.23103438]

>>23103334
>And that to succeed, it's really a combination of social climbing and unapologetic Machiavellianism?
but that's really what boomer advices are all about

[Anonymous No.23103461]

>>23103438
I don't know what boomers you hang around then.

[Anonymous No.23103572]

>>23103461
literally my boomer grandpa told me to find a sucker on the job, bully him in front of others, put work load on him and blame him for everything; make friends with people that matter and flatter them indirectly;

[Anonymous No.23103603]

>>23103334
the reason this book gives you such an edge over milquetoast normies is it takes you outside of the box they operate within. once you realize the rules they follow are fluid, then you are able to break their 'moral codes' that keep them as subservient slaves and move in and out of their world and the real world, giving you a vast advantage over them. normies dont expect low level nobodies to be lying in the same way as their CEOs, so theyre totally caught off guard when they find out their new hire lied about almost everything in the interview but your domineering personality makes it much harder for them to get rid of you lest they be found out as incompetent employees themselves and risk losing their coveted positions.

[Anonymous No.23103622]

>>23103334
The book basically says pretend to be a good and moral person, because that is the type that succeeds, while fucking everyone and your morhter over for your own success. Anon, there is a saying to be sly like a snake and pure like a dove. I would rather be a good and moral person instead of the pretender. Doesn't mean you have to behave in a dumb fashion.

[Anonymous No.23103672]

>>23103334
Good job on making it though.

[Anonymous No.23103713]

>>23103603
Yes

[Anonymous No.23103730]

go read the reviews of this book on Amazon or Audible and youll see normies decrying the book.

"great book if you have no morals!"

this is why its such an effective book, normies have such a moral aversion to the ideas listed therein that they will literally try to ignore the behaviors in front of their face because they assume, if youre from the same country as them, that youre bound by the same moral code as them.

[Anonymous No.23103783]

The book is good. If you really want to go down the rabbit hole though I have some further reading suggestions:
https://www.ribbonfarm.com/2009/10/07/the-gervais-principle-or-the-office-according-to-the-office/
https://meaningness.com/geeks-mops-sociopaths

[Anonymous No.23103807]

>>23103334

>unapologetic Machiavellianism

Don't forget Guicciardini. The Maxims.

[Anonymous No.23103836]

I want to invest seriously and fucking learn and not randomly trading shitcoins shilled here. I would love to just day trade or at least earn some money. Where did you guys start? I've read Macroeconomics by Blanchard but it didn't teach me much.
Made a thread about it about how to DYOR and it suddently became a shitposting thread.

[Anonymous No.23103838]

>>23103334
so basically just be daniel plainview. you should always remember though that there's someone smarter than you that will fuck you over even harder and you have to stop them from showing up at all costs.

[Anonymous No.23103863]

>>23103836
start with 50 dollars, turn it into 100 as practice. check out smg

[Anonymous No.23103959]

>>23103334
I’m a brainlet about to seriously lie on my resume (which only includes fry cook experience) because I know a few people that work as analysts for big companies and they gave me some online shit to learn so I can be a BI analyst.

It’s been two months and I know the basics of tableau and sql. They seem to think I should be fine to lie my way into a business analyst position by now but I still feel retarded compared to who I’m imagining my competition is.. what am I in for ?

[Anonymous No.23104029]

>>23103334
Is that really a good book? Redpill me on it

[Anonymous No.23104096]

>>23103959
Don’t worry most analysts are retarded. I know because I am one

[Anonymous No.23104111]

>>23103622
that's in plato's republic.

Its also a lot shorter read too.

[Anonymous No.23104186]

>>23103836
Read Murphy, it's on libgen

[Anonymous No.23104200]

>When did you realize that the boomer/white trash/low IQ 'business success advice' was wrong? And that to succeed, it's really a combination of social climbing and unapologetic Machiavellianism?
In the past couple years when I started carefully examining social behavior and began trying to find the most logical conclusions about it without relying on assumptions I had been taught to hold unquestionably.
Also it was in tandem with reading a lot more philosophy so I was getting more accustomed to rigorous, unassuming thinking. Plus I had just come off exploring several extremist mindsets over the past few years before that so I was primed to disregard the status quo beliefs more readily.
100% of morality and advice is absolute bullshit that is designed to get you to serve group interests over your own individual interests. What specific advice or morality a person will try to inoculate you with depends on what "group" they identify with, and are trying to program you to serve.
If you truly acted in your own best interest it would look nothing like the bluepilled advice most people give. You're right, it would be cutthroat, effective thinking that is focused 100% on results. When applied to a social context, this is Machiavellian thinking.

[Anonymous No.23104239]

>>23104200
>100% of morality and advice is absolute bullshit that is designed to get you to serve group interests over your own individual interests. What specific advice or morality a person will try to inoculate you with depends on what "group" they identify with, and are trying to program you to serve.

King.

[Anonymous No.23104265]

>>23104096
I have no education and no other work experience other than literally flipping hamburders. I have to pretend like I’ve already been doing this for years, do you think I’ll be found out anon ?

[Anonymous No.23104297]

at least jews have a semblance of gemeinschaft
these books teach you to fuck over your own people

[Anonymous No.23104301]

>>23103334
>To make a long story short, I read this book, quit my job, fudged my resume heavily, made friends with the right people, and now I'm making 180k y/r as a business analyst at the age of 32
so all you have to do is to be a normalfaggot and an asskisser nice

[Anonymous No.23104326]

>>23104297
>NOOOOOOO NOT THE HECKING VOLKIRINO

[Anonymous No.23104337]

>>23104297
Thinking in terms of your ethnic identity in 2020 is absolute fucking cope

[Anonymous No.23104374]

>>23104200
Machiavelli was a literal nobody

[Anonymous No.23104380]

>>23104297
A 120 IQ Italian American has literally nothing in common with a 92 IQ rural retard named Byran. Kinship networks don't exist in America outside of immediate and slightly extended family

[Anonymous No.23104385]

Currently at law number 40. Only 8 to go. Phew.
It's been a whole month that I'm on it.
Seriously a good book with lots of historical examples and real-life illustrations.

[Anonymous No.23104402]

>>23104374
Ok? Irrelevant

[Anonymous No.23104420]

>>23103334
>Be Frederick the Great
>One of the most successful people to ever live
>Thoroughly btfo machiavelli in your "Anti-Machiavel" thesis
>Retards all over the world still fall for the muh italian dipshit who never accomplished shit meme
KEK I can tell this is as far as you'll get in life

[Anonymous No.23104423]

>>23103622
This. Fuck your shitty book OP

[Anonymous No.23104446]

>>23103730
>normies have such a moral aversion to the ideas listed therein
lol you are such a naive kid, they are viture signaling and the only thing that is preventing them from acting as the book describes is fear

[Anonymous No.23104545]

>>23103334
The main issue i have with this isn't that it's wrong to look out for your own interests and use npcs to facilitate your success, on the contrary. Its that people mistaken Machiavellianism for just being an asshole. Its like they think there's no middle ground; you're either a Saint or a morally corrupt tyrant. Nothing cringes me out more than an over zealous manager making power plays and stirring shit in the office. Notice how they selectively enact the 'laws of power' also? Like they got the audi on finance because 'appearance is everything' but they'll always flout the law 'say less than necessary'.

Side note, I think the 'always say less than necessary' law is a game changer. Its like everything you say suddenly has gravity.

[Anonymous No.23104571]

>>23104337
not neccessarily ethnic groups but fucking over your close group of trusted friends would be detrimental to most people’s self interest over the long term. I do agree its important to stay vigilant with who you call a friend though

[Anonymous No.23104604]

>>23103334
Your viral marketing is working because I ordered a copy out of curiosity OP

[Anonymous No.23104624]

>>23104604
Did the same kek

[Anonymous No.23104641]

>>23104200
>designed to get you to serve group interests over your own individual interests
HAHAHAHA as if the average person serves group interests nowadays. as usual the answer is behind door number three. today’s moral codes are designed to get you to serve OTHERS INDIVIDUAL INTERESTS over your own individual interests or group interests. actually serving group interests wouldn’t be so bad. havent you ever been on a sportsball team? team ball wins.

[Anonymous No.23104654]

who the fuck reads books in 2020

[Anonymous No.23104667]

>>23104545
>Side note, I think the 'always say less than necessary' law is a game changer. Its like everything you say suddenly has gravity.
The Ancient Greeks and Romans had a saying for this https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Laconic_phrase

[Anonymous No.23104686]

>>23104301
this. if you (OP) havent realized that being a backstabbing social climber is as normie-tier as it gets, you have quite a few more red pills to consume my friend.

[Anonymous No.23104700]

>>23104571
Yes I agree with that, but Machiavellian thinking isn't about just fucking everyone over. In today's day and age, not fucking people over is actually usually the best route. Its just about doing what's best for you.

[Anonymous No.23104714]

>>23104604
cancel your preorder and go on libgen instead
pirating books is machiavellian

[Anonymous No.23104731]

>>23103334
Good afternoon Doomer

You will never understand.

You get what you give.

[Anonymous No.23104732]

>>23104545
>Its that people mistaken Machiavellianism for just being an asshole. Its like they think there's no middle ground; you're either a Saint or a morally corrupt tyrant.
Exactly.

[Anonymous No.23104742]

>>23104545
>always say less than necessary
also known as "dont act like a woman"

[Anonymous No.23104780]

>>23104654
ok zoomer

[Anonymous No.23104785]

>>23104641
You misunderstood what I was trying to say and its a waste of my time to dumb it down for you further, I left that post there mostly for OP.

[Anonymous No.23104808]

>>23104200
Been going through Understanding the Dark Side of Human Nature recently and on reflection I’m currently holding the idea that morality is purely a social and cultural concept. Even those acts that are considered inherently evil are only because we as a species group have decided they are. It’s how groups work I think so your experience makes sense to me

[Anonymous No.23104860]

>>23104326
KEK

[Anonymous No.23104890]

>>23104714
Done

[Anonymous No.23104946]

Machiavelli was a socialist
https://m.barnesandnoble.com/w/the-genealogy-of-morals-by-friedrich-nietzsche-friedrich-nietzsche/1130002778

[Anonymous No.23105070]

>>23103836
Pic related. Also the "Market Wizards" book series by Jack Schwager is very good and entertaining, basically interviews with successful hedge fund managers, traders etc of all different styles. Start with that if you're interested

[Anonymous No.23105114]

>>23104742
kek this

[Anonymous No.23105563]

>>23104186
>>23105070
thank you! I'm a /lit/fag but the /biz/ chart is just meme books, finally some serious books about investing seriously. I hate the fact that investing seems like a magical ability that only the 1% or super smart people master, I think it's a skill and loke every other skill needs to be learned and mastered.

[Anonymous No.23105586]

>>23105070
jesus christ that's a lot of reading. You better be a millionaire

[Anonymous No.23105974]

>>23103334
That book is second hand Machiavellianism niggers read in prison.

[Anonymous No.23106099]

>>23104667
Wow thats incredibly based.

[Anonymous No.23106308]

>>23105070
based, thanks for this post

[Anonymous No.23106454]

>>23104686
Most normies hunker and keep their head down for fear of social reprisal

[Anonymous No.23106479]

>>23104731
Karma is only real if you believe in it

[Anonymous No.23106508]

>>23106479
Karma is real because people's reactions to your actions are real.

[Anonymous No.23106532]

>>23103622
This. You should read it however just so you can see the BS the people over you are pulling. Just being able to maneuvre around machiavellian tricks other are trying to pull off will give you an edge above normies without having to risk your soul.

[Anonymous No.23106650]

>>23103334
So your a sociopath who steals credit for other people’s work. Kys

[Anonymous No.23106666]

>>23103572
That's disgusting. I'm just gonna opt out and keep my soul.

[Anonymous No.23106671]

The final law is by far the best. Although the last 3 are all solid.

48: Assume formlessness

By taking a shape, by having a visible plan, you open yourself to attack. Instead of taking a form for your enemy to grasp, keep yourself adaptable and on the move. Accept the fact that nothing is certain and no law is fixed. The best way to protect yourself is to be as fluid and formless as water; never bet on stability or lasting order. Everything changes.

[Anonymous No.23106835]

>>23106671
Bruce Lee said it better noob

[Anonymous No.23106851]

>>23106666
seeing so many 666 all the time bros quad 6666 spell is broken?

[Anonymous No.23106882]

>>23106835
>Bruce Lee said it better noob
>noob

Plebbit awaits you faggot.

[Anonymous No.23106930]

>>23103572
This is why I hate the workplace. Everyone sucking dick of those a step above them. And the one guy that actually cares about the work gets shit on. To climb the corporate ladder you have to suck dick of superiors not do the job.

[Anonymous No.23107254]

>>23103622
If you read the book you would instantly recognize that you have used these methods yourself before and that you are not pure at all, all sheep pretend to be clean because they have hidden their dirt from themselves to keep their self-belief of being a good person going, this book tells you how to handle inherently dirty sheep including yourself in a realistic and in many ways profitable way. To be honest if you didn't completely study the book and methods you won't understand it and fuck yourself over multiple times while thinking
>woah what a power move by me
when in reality you lost through that move. Friends I have recommended it to usually only read the law title and sub description and then went on to do absolutely retarded and delusional moves.

[Anonymous No.23107285]

>>23105563
Don't believe retards who say TA doesn't work. Knowing even basic TA can vastly increase your chances of making good money

[Anonymous No.23107311]

>>23104714
Based fuck intellectual property

[Anonymous No.23107381]

>>23106882
DURRR MUH GOOD BOOK
Neck yourself.

[Anonymous No.23107393]

>>23103334
>The natural born charismatic sociopath Chad
>The "I need an instruction manual because I'm too hopeless and autistic to get what I want" Virgin

[Anonymous No.23107394]

>>23103572
Your grandpa seems based

[Anonymous No.23107404]

>>23103334
robert greene writes ficitonal type advice that he thinks is the real hard truth, but in reality all he is, is a maniac that has no business background but instead a wagie background.
Don't listen to OP.
Robert Greene is delusional and so are you who take word by word of what he writes.

[Anonymous No.23107427]

>>23103603
Couldn't have put it better myself. There are so many exploitable scenarios example for background checks did you know all the ask your employer is how long you worked there for and if you worked there, most of the money i made in my career has been from exploiting that.

[Anonymous No.23107440]

>>23104029
>Redpill me on it
The author is a Jew that opens up how (((they))) operate and perceive the world to the goyim.
Not what they do, but how their individuals behave.

[Anonymous No.23107536]

>>23103334
> now I'm making 180k y/r as a business analyst at the age of 32
be more specific, what are your job duties? i work in corporate accounting and i need a way out of this hell.

[Anonymous No.23107592]

>>23104200
>Also it was in tandem with reading a lot more philosophy so I was getting more accustomed to rigorous, unassuming thinking. Plus I had just come off exploring several extremist mindsets over the past few years before that so I was primed to disregard the status quo beliefs more readily.
Christ, exact same path as me. Maybe it's method-philosophizing lol.
Anyway, best answer I ever found was that morality is a unifying signal for a group that's used to check against bad actors. Since it gets associated with ingroup inclusion, it gets associated with status and power, and exacerbating the signal is one fashion through which the socially mobile make gains. Morality isn't useless, just like suckers aren't useless, it's just that there's always the allure of joining the non-suckers faction since, realistically, there are plenty of suckers around as it stands.

[Anonymous No.23107670]

>>23107592
>Anyway, best answer I ever found was that morality is a
Lemme cut you off right there. Best answer on morals is from Nietzsche's book Geneology of Morals. There is nothing worse then people that think they're smart because they read op's book suggestion.

[Anonymous No.23107920]

>>23107670
I didn't read OP's book suggestion, nor would I ever treat Nietzsche as the best answer to anything. Had my fill of twerps fawning over him and Diogenes thanks.

[Anonymous No.23108318]

>>23103334
>When did you realize that the boomer/white trash/low IQ 'business success advice' was wrong? And that to succeed, it's really a combination of social climbing and unapologetic Machiavellianism?

I've put that in my head, once and for all, this year.

I thought I could get away with not having to worry too much about office politics as a SW dev in a tech company... FUCKING WRONG.

Now I'm treachery incarnate.

[Anonymous No.23108371]

>>23103572

Jesus fucking christ, my grandfather just worked himself to death as a tradie.

[Anonymous No.23108411]

>>23103603
>the reason this book gives you such an edge over milquetoast normies is it takes you outside of the box they operate within. once you realize the rules they follow are fluid, then you are able to break their 'moral codes' that keep them as subservient slaves and move in and out of their world and the real world, giving you a vast advantage over them. normies dont expect low level nobodies to be lying in the same way as their CEOs, so theyre totally caught off guard when they find out their new hire lied about almost everything in the interview but your domineering personality makes it much harder for them to get rid of you lest they be found out as incompetent employees themselves and risk losing their coveted positions.

To be formless... this is good stuff.

[Anonymous No.23108456]

>>23103783

This is also seminal reading on the whole machiavellian office politics theme.

It would be nice if there was a /biz/ compilation of this but then again... there would no advantage for anyone in it now would it?

[Anonymous No.23108521]

>>23103959

If you have a vagina, if you absolutely nothing to worry about. In case you don't... you better be upfront about it when you get in and you better buckle up in order not to weigh down your co-workers so much.

[Anonymous No.23108545]

>>23107920
>Diogenes
>taking advice from rude hobos

[Anonymous No.23108569]

>>23104297

I will gladly fuck over normies. But I will most certainly spare anon-like people.

[Anonymous No.23108580]

>>23103783
This guy absolutely gets it. These 5 blogposts were mindblowing to me.

[Anonymous No.23108596]

>>23104385

The most importants are in the extremes and the rules never contradict each other (think about this one a bit).

[Anonymous No.23108657]

>>23106671

Also the best one IMO.

[Anonymous No.23108675]

>>23103334
Mastery by Greene is great also.

[Anonymous No.23108710]

>>23108456
>It would be nice if there was a /biz/ compilation of this but then again... there would no advantage for anyone in it now would it?
Getting other people's takes on this would be great and very advantageous, so I disagree honestly. Most people are too attached to their moral programming to accept stuff like it though, which on the one hand is good because no matter how accessible it is very few will take lessons from it, and even less will apply, and on the other hand bad because not many people put out analysis on it.

[Anonymous No.23108762]

>>23107920
Also you should read Wittgenstein if you haven't man

[Anonymous No.23108848]

>>23108710

I see your points. The problem is that if psychopaths and sociopaths would come upon such a list they would INSTANTLY make use of it and fuck everyone else. The smart ones would get that material anyway but at least we could avoid the dumber ones to fuck us all up.

Also, no good and smart psychopath would EVER write these books or articles and make them freely available.

[Anonymous No.23108897]

>>23104686

Care to share a red pill or two?

[Anonymous No.23108950]

>>23103334
>heh just keep your nose to the grindstone for 50 years, and one day you'll be a disposable middle manager with a comfy chair, just like me.

[Anonymous No.23109105]

>>23103334
The book is valid (i've read it). Thing is, would you really want to live in the corporate environment? Even if you succeed, won't you have a better life, doing something that doesn't involve manipulating normies and cogs all day? Corporate lifestyle suck. Don't care about reigning in hell. Robert Green himself seems to be an introvert, and couldn't even apply efficiently his own advices.

[Anonymous No.23109192]

>>23109105
>Thing is, would you really want to live in the corporate environment? Even if you succeed, won't you have a better life, doing something that doesn't involve manipulating normies and cogs all day?

Where else would I be able to get some fucking money?

Also, at this point, I just want to make some people suffer.

[Anonymous No.23109267]

As an interesting complement to other articles shared here, here's another red pill for those who work in tech companies: https://defmacro.substack.com/p/how-to-get-promoted

[Anonymous No.23109518]

>>23109192
Rude https://youtu.be/ybGOT4d2Hs8

[Anonymous No.23109544]

>>23109518

That song is pretty much my life's motto and I hope my death is as quick as it.

[Anonymous No.23109567]

>>23109544
Checked and keked

[Anonymous No.23109680]

>>23109267
>>23103783
Thanks for sharing

[Anonymous No.23109748]

i've done a lot of different jobs in my life and i realized i don't like working with the vast majority of people. been working solo for the past 4 years and im much happier

[Anonymous No.23109778]

>>23103334
book`s author is a wagie kike
dunno if u guys take it seriously

[Anonymous No.23109940]

>>23106508
So Karma is just other people doing things, and not some divine law of the universe?

[Anonymous No.23109958]

>>23103334
Is this supposed to be impressive? I have a friend who made 600k in his first year as an analyst at Goldman Sachs. Something you’ll never be able to achieve because you’re already heavily over the hill and can never compete with 23 year olds on vyvanse who can work at 10x your efficiency

[Anonymous No.23109962]

>>23103603

screencapped.

[Anonymous No.23109998]

>>23103334
This book should be only accessible to the elite class
Currently very cheap imo
ITT people will say they don't like it cause it also deconstructs scams and schemes
If people had this author knowledge, who would they scam then?

[Anonymous No.23110077]

>>23109998

I think everyone in this thread is praising this book.

The people who say they don't like it are psychopaths astroturfing shit in order for them not to be figured out.

Also, this book is just intro level info about the dark world of machiavellianism and psychopathy. The more advanced stuff is still secret and unknown.

[Anonymous No.23110275]

>>23103603
This.
> law
> politics
> corporate rules
> established power structures
These are all human constructs built by fallible humans that can be broken as necessary. Just be smart about what hills you die on.

[Anonymous No.23110289]

>>23109958

Kek you actually believe this? They make roughly 70k base I'm told, which is just higher than minimum wage if you account for the hours they make.

[Anonymous No.23110646]

>>23109958
good larp

[Anonymous No.23110654]

>>23107536

[Anonymous No.23110782]

>>23108848
True. Thats why I read 38 strategems of how to be based and win arguments by my main man Schopenhauer.

[Anonymous No.23110879]

>>23103334
I was already using some of the rules from experience and having lived in an exceptionally narcissistic family all my life, but there was one rule which stood out a lot from this book to me and changed my life.
Law 10: Infection: Avoid the unhappy and unlucky.

I had already cut out narcissistic family members from my life before this book, but it made me realize that being around enablers was also costing me a lot of energy and time for no positive results because they were looking for problems instead of trying to be positive.
I instead used most of my free time from these relationships to improve myself for 3 years and completely changed while I became a millionaire. It's incredible how quickly someone can change if they stop being slowed down and negatively impacted by those around them who wish for tragedy.

I don't like using the other laws of power too much other than to protect myself from manipulation, but the positive side of the law 10 should deserve a book by itself as it completely changes the message of the book from a law of power to a law of self improvement.
>There are people who attract happiness to themselves by their good cheer, natural buoyancy and intelligence. ...
>Never associate with those who share your defects. They will reinforce everything that holds you back.
>Only create associations with positive affinities. Make this a rule of life and you will benefit more than from all the therapy in the world.

I instinctively used this law when I went to /pol/ and then to /biz/, but I also found someone through youtube who helped me go a bit further than what I could get from /biz/.

[Anonymous No.23110988]

>>23110879
>"law" Avoid the unhappy and unlucky.
Nassim Taleb does it better. Lemme pull up this book

[Anonymous No.23111026]

>>23103572
Your grandfather needs to die and burn in hell.

[Anonymous No.23111312]

>>23110988
Thank you!

There is still one question for which I am trying to find an answer:
Where can I go next after getting help from /pol/ and /biz/ to further gain positive elements into my life?
The more you improve yourself and the further away from normal you become.
This means it's harder to find someone more outside of the norm or who shares a similar positive attitude.
But doing it from an abnormal state makes it even harder to ingrate back into society.
The last thing I still want to understand is what part of /x/ is true, but it seems to be even more difficult to understand than /biz/.

[Anonymous No.23111346]

>>23103334
My favorite one from this is: "Say less as much as possible, and if you know something others don't consider it an advantage, the man who is quick to spew unsolicited advice is seen as a nuisance."

Technically breaking this one with this post though.

[Anonymous No.23111361]

>>23103807
Literally who

[Anonymous No.23111419]

>>23111346

This one for me is VERY important, considering I used to for sure say too much and spew unwanted advice.

[Anonymous No.23111505]

This is a meme book. Full of whys and what ifs but lacks actual practical implementation. It’s literally on the same level as all the other get rich/motivational books of the 2000s.
The real good ones are written before all the censorship >1999

[Anonymous No.23111506]

>>23105070

[Anonymous No.23111509]

>>23104808
Gratz you've reached rebellious teen consciousness, now it's time to grow the fuck up, why do you think we decided what's right and wrong in the first place?

[Anonymous No.23111533]

>>23110879
>>There are people who attract happiness to themselves by their good cheer, natural buoyancy and intelligence. ...
>>Never associate with those who share your defects. They will reinforce everything that holds you back.
>>Only create associations with positive affinities. Make this a rule of life and you will benefit more than from all the therapy in the world.
Nice, but why would you internalize this and then go to /pol/?

[Anonymous No.23111566]

Actual books on power costs around $85 starting with missing pages , with a very hard to find copy at $400.

[Anonymous No.23111577]

>>23110879

I truly feel I'm too pessimistic and cursed to rely on such a law.

[Anonymous No.23111592]

[Anonymous No.23111608]

A much better book is the 7 habits of highly effective people.

[Anonymous No.23111632]

>>23103334
It’s a good book but it’s extremely situational meme advice that’s almost impossible to put into practice.

[Anonymous No.23111634]

>>23103334
Thanks OP, gonna start a cult.

Law 27: Play on people’s need to believe to create a cult like following
Five rules of cult making

Keep it vague, keep it simpleEmphasize the visual and sensational over the intellectualBorrow the forms of organized religion to structure the groupDisguise your source of incomeSet up an us vs them dynamic

[Anonymous No.23111653]

Last one.

[Anonymous No.23111663]

>>23106666
Based, I'd rather be poor than be a kike morally.

[Anonymous No.23111720]

>>23111663
No one's stopping you mate, lol

[Anonymous No.23111726]

>>23104200
>serve group interests over your own individual interests
This should be society's ultimate goal desu

[Anonymous No.23111733]

>>23109940
Natural laws are laws of the universe, not necessarily divine but you’d be surprised at how much normies recoil at what’s natural

[Anonymous No.23111735]

>>23103334
this is a book of jewish trickery
works great, but it is what it is

[Anonymous No.23111756]

>>23111566
Seems interesting. What's the book anon?
>>23111632
If you take it literally, no. A lot of the stuff in reality is subtle and a lot of effective social operators just do it naturally, without thinking. The most charismatic guy I know, who everyone loves, I realized just followed a lot of this advice without even knowing it - its just naturally how he was. He gave credit when he perceived someone was higher status than him, took it from those lower, never argued with people about their opinions, only ever laughed and agreed, and kept most social encounters playful.

[Anonymous No.23111772]

>>23111533
I went to /pol/ before I read the book from a thread on /a/.
However /pol/ has been the start of my self improvement process.
If you want to fix a problem you need to first understand the truth behind it.
I found Jordan Peterson there, and also got a link to a /biz/ post from it which made a huge difference to me and a few others certainly.
Lastly it may have saved my life when I got sick from the corona in February before it was recognized as a sickness by the world.
Cross boarders who disseminate their knowledge on different boards from 4chan bring a lot of new ideas to usually limited boards where people share similar ideas after being in the same space for some time.

/pol/ also gave me an idea of what a normal and healthy person may aspire to be even if I will never get close to this ideal. It's like /biz/ in the sense that you have to read through it to find interesting things.

[Anonymous No.23111793]

>>23108710
I find this all hard to apply as a NEET and it's too many things to remember.

[Anonymous No.23111843]

>>23111346
>the man who is quick to spew unsolicited advice is seen as a nuisance.
I do this and hate that it is ineffective as I truly want to help others.

[Anonymous No.23111869]

>>23104654

Relying on the summaries of others, or diluted interpretations perverted by a click-bait economy. If you can't read papers and books, you are fucked.

[Anonymous No.23111914]

>>23111577
Those who don't need this law have nothing left to learn or may never find out what they really had to learn.
Life is a perpetual movement.
Having something to learn means you can still improve and discover the happiness of making a discovery.
My life changed the most when I took a leap of faith and accepted the chaos of the world to help improve my potential future.
If you have doubts when thinking of trying out something, you will regret no taking this extra step later.
Just remember this:
> If, for example, you are miserly by nature, you will never go beyond a certain limit; only generous souls attain greatness. Associate with the generous, then, and they will infect you, opening up everything that is tight and restricted in you. If you are gloomy, gravitate to the cheerful. If you are prone to isolation, force yourself to befriend the gregarious.

The key is to find people who you respect and look up to, or who have an attribute which you wish you could have.
The relationship may have to be cut after some time if it doesn't bring you the positive result you expected, but you will still learn something important. If you attract bad people with this law you may need to take a deep look into your subconscious behavior inherited from your past to understand why you are attracted to them.

[Anonymous No.23111915]

>>23103572
>literally my boomer grandpa told me to find a sucker on the job, bully him in front of others, put work load on him and blame him for everything;
>>23111026
>Your grandfather needs to die and burn in hell.
No need to ask whether you are the bully or the bullied KEK

[Anonymous No.23111923]

>>23111793
Well if you have no real power to start with its pretty pointless tbqh. You have to at least be operating in some kind of arena in order for any of it to matter, although surely you at least have some interpersonal relationships that would be better if you were a bit more keen.

[Anonymous No.23111966]

>>23111312
Megativity is needed in life, anon. I think that book is called The Secret

[Anonymous No.23112170]

>>23111592
Those are some pretty dope paragraphs to be honest... thanks for sharing.

[Anonymous No.23112177]

>>23107404
>has no business background

Relevant because? The book isn't about business.

[Anonymous No.23112269]

>>23111653

Smart way to share content without being obvious anon, nice one!

Do you have any other type of breadcrumb you'd like to share?

Here's some more redpilling stuff on office politics:
https://tomcritchlow.com/2019/11/18/yes-and/

Really enjoying this thread, hope others like this appear in /biz/.

[Anonymous No.23112292]

>>23111966
Thank you!
I learned of the law of attraction recently, but have been struggling to understand what part of my life experience was caused by my will and efforts and which part by chaos or "luck".
Concerning negativity I think I paid most of the price for my complete life through what I experienced before I was born as a new person 3 years ago.
Life is unpredictable, but being able to feel alive in this present moment is what's the most important.

[Anonymous No.23112318]

>>23103334
this book is really based

[Anonymous No.23112331]

>>23112292
Life is will man. Every 7 years your carbons are different carbons. It is simply a test to get better. Thank YOU too man.

[Anonymous No.23112333]

it was probably just a way to encourage work ethic in a bygone time where people actually tried to make themselves useful. don't be a retard, OP.

[Anonymous No.23113023]

I see this book more as a field guide in spotting people that put those principles in practice out of instinct so you don't fall for their tricks rather than something you put into practice yourself.
If you have to read a book to figure out how to do these things you already failed. Especially since you also have to be a 7+/10 in today's climate. I'd rather flip shitcoins and stonks for a year than try to humor wageslaves for a day.

[Anonymous No.23113160]

>>23103572
Incredibly based.

[Anonymous No.23113699]

>>23113023
>I see this book more as a field guide in spotting people that put those principles in practice out of instinct so you don't fall for their tricks rather than something you put into practice yourself.
Its very useful for this too. The defense is probably more important the offense, if you had to compare.

[Anonymous No.23113735]

If you want good boomer advice read Zero to One by Peter Thiel. Lots of good tech start up stuff in it.

[Anonymous No.23113752]

Fucking based

Watch and learn bitches https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=t_G0ia3JOVs

[Anonymous No.23114397]

>>23108596
>the rules never contradict each other (think about this one a bit).
They do all the time tho? Explain what you mean.

[Anonymous No.23114465]

>>23107381
Name one good book

[Anonymous No.23115344]

>>23113752
*sneeze*
*sneeze*

The Union and the Constitution forever champ

[Anonymous No.23115352]

>>23103334
>fudged my resume heavily
Please tell me what I have to fudge myself. MBAE done in April this year, unemployed since then.

[Anonymous No.23115512]

>>23106666
with those digits your soul is already long gone

[Anonymous No.23115687]

>>23111915
>>23103572
Was he a Boy Scout leader

[Anonymous No.23116561]

>>23104420
Ikr? So much sociopath cope ITT.

[Anonymous No.23116625]

>>23104667
>had

[Anonymous No.23116962]

>>23106671
This is the hardest advice to follow. Many people are unaware that their habits, quirks, biases, and personality are noticeable by others over time. Every opinion, action, and non-action, when viewed together, can tell a lot about you. So even if you think you're smart by not telling the truth all the time or being intentionally vague, others will know you're up to no good.

[Anonymous No.23117905]

>>23103334
>thinking this isnt Robert Greenes jewish mother posting here, like she placed copies of his book in conspicious places when it came out.

Nice try Mrs. Greene I read it already. The Prince was better

[Anonymous No.23118053]

I just want to pop in and say this is a good thread. Redditors and moralfags will call it 'edgelord' but every once in a while you're going to need a dose of edgelordism.
I wish 4chan had more edgelords. The way it is now, I could find the same discourse on 9gag and plebbit boards. It's boring. I'd rather risk some teenage cringe than being bored.

I'd like to add The Genealogy of Morals as a good reader. Teaches you basically why modern politics is the way it is, and why you aren't going to be changing anyone's mind anytime soon.
Some will say to start with Nietzsche's other books (like Beyond Good and Evil, the 'prequel'), but in Genealogy, he gets straight to the point.

[Anonymous No.23118116]

If you read it right, Genealogy of Morals can also be a self help book, if your mind has been indoctrinated with slave morality. You can identify the ruts created in your mind by being a slave peasant, and recognize them. Nietzsche was sort of a psychologist more than a philosopher. Most post-modernists are armchair psychologists under the guise of philosophy. That's why most people hate it. Critical theory is borderline freudian ad hominem. At least, critical theory in literature is.
But Nietzsche was the OG and did it in such a style that he has consistently made everyone of all creeds and beliefs eternally butthurt.

[Anonymous No.23118119]

And you guys actually believe "I'm 32 and a business analyst making 180k because I lied on my resume" ...?

[Anonymous No.23118164]

>>23118119
I believe 3 out of 4 of those attributes

[Anonymous No.23118188]

>>23108521
i have a vagina how do i get this job

[2 scoops !!DU22SQMj6dQ No.23118270]

>>23103334
>When did you realize that the boomer/white trash/low IQ 'business success advice' was wrong? And that to succeed, it's really a combination of social climbing and unapologetic Machiavellianism?
Probably the first time I got passed over for a promotion despite being an insufferable fucking need my entire goddam life.
I immediately began interviewing and doubled my salary in under 6 months, and made sure to tell my stupid ass boss.

A better book is “never split the difference” by Chris Voss, but I haven’t personally ever read The 48 Laws of Power...

[Anonymous No.23118740]

>>23103334
This book reminds me of the prison library..

[Anonymous No.23118935]

>>23118270
>I haven’t personally ever read The 48 Laws of Power...
Listen to the audiobook. The narrator is perfect.

[Anonymous No.23119207]

>>23104380
thats bullshit you fucking moron. Whites are a brotherhood. You are some non-white faggot.
>>23104297
this but also normies sometimes deserve to be shit on specially the middle class

[Anonymous No.23119263]

>>23105563
TA really doesn't work. It is a trap.

[Anonymous No.23119445]

Are you retarded?! The things you've done is the actual hard work that no one wants to do. Who do you think wants to risk his presumably easy job and try to become a business analyst. If you fail at the extra work you're doing, no biggie, you go back to normal work. If you fail becoming a BA after you've quit your job you're fucked unless you have a lot of reserve cash. If you want to be paid more you need a job with more responsibilities, that's what's being paid the most and not actual labor.

GG anon you finally buckled down.

[Anonymous No.23119494]

>>23103959
Learn on the job bro. Everyone’s an idiot when they start.

[Anonymous No.23119535]

>>23103334
boomers just dont realize that it's a different America today than it was when they were growing up. remember, they grew up in 90% white/10% black america, today it's 60% white/25% spic/15% nigger. the ratio of producers:leeches was 9:1 in their day. it's 3:2 now. i hate them for destroying what we had, and i hope they live long enough to see it burn.

[Anonymous No.23119650]

>>23115687
underapreciated

[Anonymous No.23119998]

>>23103730
They bought the book

[Anonymous No.23120479]

>>23103783
One of the best articles I read in ages.
Thank you, buy $LINK

[Anonymous No.23120734]

>>23110879
So based. congrats anon. This was also my biggest takeaway from this book. Has lead to making some brutal but ultimately good decisions.

[Anonymous No.23120837]

>>23111361
Guicciardini

[Anonymous No.23120861]

>>23116561
It's just dumb 19 year olds who just figured out they don't have to suck up to their coworkers like they did to their hs bully because their coworkers can't just beat them up, and now think they're so woke for standing up to muh normies. Also the "hehe im a psychopath i have zero emotion hehe so cool" meme is practically an allegory of the 15 year old depressed edgelord. It's both pathetic and fun to watch desu

[Anonymous No.23120868]

>>23111653

Which book is this?

[Anonymous No.23121154]

>>23103783
This reminds me of my experience with Hololive.
Their viewer number grew so big with mops I lost the motivation to support most of them.
It's sad that everything we like is destined to be infested and destroyed by them.

[Anonymous No.23121187]

Based thread. Finished another law yesterday. Only 7 to go.

What other books do you recommend, biz?

I'll dive into Genealogy of Morals - Nietzsche as another anon recommended.
I had "Never split the difference" in my "to read" list for a while and it was coincidentally the next one on the list.
Please don't suggest all of the "usual" entrepreneurship books as I've read them all, e-myth, how to win friends..., atomic habits, 7 habits of ..., Personal MBA, zero to one, Traction, 4HWW, Deep work, lean startup, etcetc.

For those unaware, download almost any audiobooks there: http://audiobookbay.net/

[Anonymous No.23121473]

>>23121187
all illimtablemen writings are essential

https://illimitablemen.com/archives/

[Anonymous No.23121612]

>>23103959
>I know the basics of tableau and sql
Your competition is sub 100 iq and mispronounces english words regularly. You will be fine

[Anonymous No.23122118]

>>23121473
>https://illimitablemen.com/archives/
Thank you.

At first glance, it looks like it mainly resolves around feminism and women which is a big red flag to me. Self-awareness about women/feminism imo should probably account for a minority of one's area of improvement.

There are a lot of other topics that look interesting, though. I'll have a look anyway

[Anonymous No.23122895]

>>23111914

Just looked at this now.

I'm so blackpilled at this moment that I truly believe no one is actually generous and nice and everyone's out to screw each other. I might be biased due to going through the darkest time in my life so far, but it is what it is.

[Anonymous No.23122926]

>>23122895
>what's going on in your life?

[Anonymous No.23123060]

>>23122926

Don't want to get into that. I'm rethinking a bit what I wrote and actually I can think of some persons which are actually generous and nice.

But none of them are in tech, so I can't really leverage those people á lá that Law 10.

[Anonymous No.23123277]

>>23111111

[Anonymous No.23123311]

>>23103334
What education and qualifications do you have?

[Anonymous No.23123514]

>>23103783
absolute utter garbage written by losers lol, you can smell the resentment in both texts

[Anonymous No.23123536]

>>23104200
>100% of morality and advice is absolute bullshit that is designed to get you to serve group interests over your own individual interests. What specific advice or morality a person will try to inoculate you with depends on what "group" they identify with, and are trying to program you to serve.
this is true, it is why poor generally vote left and advocate leftist standards, and the rich right

[Anonymous No.23123565]

>>23106930
that's bc the job is arbitrary bullshit in order to generate money. let's be real if you're in an office you're not actually producing or creating anything of value. you're pushing numbers for a made up economy to move an imaginary line

[Anonymous No.23123625]

>>23107311
I like intellectual property but I like free shit more

[Anonymous No.23124134]

>>23111312
I've been asking that question since late 2017. Tentatively I think I've found it in the work of Ray Peat and the corresponding community at the Ray Peat forum. My health has objectively improved in the last six months of putting that knowledge into action.

[Anonymous No.23124509]

>>23118188
Dilate

[Anonymous No.23124605]

>>23103836
how much would you pay for an ebook that summarizes everything you want to know about trading?

[Anonymous No.23124623]

I can tell there are a lot of beta males with weak handshakes who look at the ground itt

[Anonymous No.23124762]

>>23103334
>read this book goy, you will hack life afterwards
kys redditor

[Anonymous No.23124919]

>>23124762
reading isn't for brainlets.

[Anonymous No.23124967]

>>23103334
>just be a psychopath bro
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ZaCpvrmPt8U

[Anonymous No.23125178]

>>23103836
Read The Intelligent Investor by Benjamin Graham

[Anonymous No.23125303]

>>23109267
>https://defmacro.substack.com/p/how-to-get-promoted
lol people from HN are not allowed here.
that said, this dude is pretty legit, I have quite some Twitter/Discord DMs w him
he was very depressed for a period of time, so his grim outlook is a little exaggerated here

[Anonymous No.23125344]

>>23111505
give examples nigga

[Anonymous No.23125400]

>>23112269
>>23120868
it's games people play
not bad, not great imo
worth it if you're pretty basic with the concept of how people interact socially

[Anonymous No.23126272]

>>23125344
>Take genius general who is already well accomplished but has autistic habit
>Autistic habit is wiping his ass with leaves and throwing them at soldiers for fun
>"AHHH BUT YOU SEE IT'S NOT THAT THIS GUY IS A GENIUS GENERAL WITH A RETARDED HABIT, HIS RETARDED HABIT MAKES HIM A GENIUS! IT ESTABLISHES A HIERARCHY OF POWER WHICH SUBCONSCIOUSLY MAKES HIS SOLDIERS 100% DEVOTED TO HIM UNDER SLAVE MENTALITY"
Faux correlation is practically the gist of oil salesman books like this one.

[Anonymous No.23126332]

>>23105563
what biz chart are you referring to? I've been following one with The Intelligent Investor, Security Analysis, etc. only with positive results

[Anonymous No.23126337]

>>23126272
give <1999 book examples nigga

[Anonymous No.23126989]

>>23111312
If you unironically think there's anything of value on pol then you are a hopeless brainlet

[Anonymous No.23127045]

>>23111653
what book is this?

[Anonymous No.23127758]

>>23126989
There was in 2015. But yes, once you understand HBD there's not much else to do, since the rest of it is schizo-christian conspiracy theories like all right wing forums.

[Anonymous No.23128794]

>>23110879
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wK6OB3r5icQ&t=16
Here's the same advice expressed by a domestic terrorist.

[Anonymous No.23130257]

>>23103334
Retard-tier book. Ngmi.

[Anonymous No.23130346]

I'd rather not be on my deathbed feeling like a piece of shit. I get the Machiavellian aspect of it, I adopt some "sociopathic" (read: non-normal) thoughts and tendencies as I realize some things people do are unnecessary and/or counterproductive to their personal goals, but I'm not going to set about looking to screw people over lol. Just influence them the right way.

"It is better to be feared than loved" is my favorite line of his. People will listen to, and respect, those they fear, but frequently disrespect and stomp on those they love when convenient. Now "respect" is the perfect balance of fear and love, but if you have to choose one you go for the former.

[Anonymous No.23131210]

>>23111566
>>23111592

Which book is that?

[Anonymous No.23132397]

>>23128794
based and names-and-addresses-pilled

[Anonymous No.23132509]

>>23104571
work normies are NOT your friends

[Anonymous No.23132817]

>>23103572
I dont like that