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/smg/ - Stock Market General Thread Anonymous Fri Oct 2 22:50:05 2020 No.22999933 [Reply] [Original]

Friday evening edition

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>>22996938

>>	reluctant kneepad girl Fri Oct 2 22:52:19 2020 No.22999963 File: 98 KB, 181x245, 1497424464312.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] buy GPRO

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 2 22:52:40 2020 No.22999971 Should I buy NAK with the profit I make on NAK covered calls?

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 2 22:53:05 2020 No.22999978 >>22999971 Just keep buying NAK calls, you'll make more doing that than with stock and spend less.

Anonymous Fri Oct 2 22:54:22 2020 No.23000004

The thing with Cohen is he bought a good amount at a low price, then he bought even more around 8-9ish.
It just seems odd that he'd come in without knowing the situation. I'm gonna trust my gut and go with him.
Maybe its stupid but I think he knows what he's doing more than us retards on the internet.

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 2 22:55:36 2020 No.23000026 >>22999978 Aren't you still buying the stock with a covered call?

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 2 22:56:11 2020 No.23000037 Give it to me straight boys, I've had 2 miller lite tallboys I can handle it, how many thousand points are we going to be down on Mon?

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 2 22:56:27 2020 No.23000043 >>23000026 wait yeah I'm retarded.

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 2 22:57:28 2020 No.23000065 >>23000037 If repeating numerals. 5000.

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 2 22:57:32 2020 No.23000069 File: 970 KB, 2048x1366, 1552510826592.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >mfw stuck on /pol/ last 3 days because some fucking /biz/ janny can't take the bantz

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 2 22:57:56 2020 No.23000077 File: 74 KB, 1000x750, 5dd3c2243afd37788531ead2.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Why are certain white gay men so good at making money in the tech industry? >Ryan Cohen >Peter Thiel >Tim Apple >Elon, probably

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 2 22:59:34 2020 No.23000102 >>23000069 Welcome back anon we missed you

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 2 22:59:35 2020 No.23000103 >>23000077 Giving and receiving favors takes on a whole different meaning. I assume they just have more to offer on the negotiating table, if you catch my meaning.

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 2 22:59:46 2020 No.23000105 >>23000077 Elon loses money. He is just part of the african branch of the long nose clan and the various clan sects come together for him

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 2 23:00:32 2020 No.23000118 File: 148 KB, 1745x1067, 1528510337151.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>23000069 Same, but I just left for 3 days

Anonymous Fri Oct 2 23:00:35 2020 No.23000120

>>22999978
Are you reselling them on green days? Sounds risky. If you mess up how are you going to accumulate more NAK?

Do you even make more profit that way?
I sell a $2 call on a green day, buy it back on a red day.
You buy it on a red day and sell it onwards on a green day.
Aren't we swinging the same derivative at the same price point? But I don't lose everything if we go too many days without a chance to complete a leg, and you do.

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 2 23:01:14 2020 No.23000128 >>23000069 Talks about the debate? Me too fren. You would think the next president of the US is related to business and finance, but I guess it’s not...

Anonymous Fri Oct 2 23:01:44 2020 No.23000137

>>22999940
the only reason he didn't go above 10% is because of cuck regulations

what I wonder right now is if Sherman or other board members are being an obstacle against him. I'd like to think that their discussions are going well or else Cohen wouldn't have bothered to make a show of confidence with going to 9.98%
but then again he's in no rush, and I just hope it doesn't dip under $9 at this point since i hate seeing all my unrealized gains shrink. fuck lol I just wish I hadn't averaged up on another 200 shares above $10 (I'm at ~1700 shares now)

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 2 23:02:56 2020 No.23000157 >>23000000

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 2 23:03:01 2020 No.23000160 >>22999933 holy cow nice digitinos

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 2 23:04:15 2020 No.23000174 >>23000137 You could go heavy and sell 17 covered calls a week or if I was in your position 7 to lower your cost basis. You're probably safe until Oct 9, but that's only if that threshold security list turns out to be anything.

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 2 23:06:12 2020 No.23000207 >>23000137 Wouldn't it be more likely that the other institutional investors can't do anything about Cohen because they lent away their stocks on margin and thus giving away their voting rights?

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 2 23:08:56 2020 No.23000245 did any one buy lol

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 2 23:08:58 2020 No.23000246 >>23000137 >the only reason he didn't go above 10% is because of cuck regulations meaning what?

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 2 23:12:00 2020 No.23000288 Judas Priest is so fucking good

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 2 23:12:02 2020 No.23000290 I’ve seen some suspect shit but the trump COVID shit is the biggest most blatant flagrant example of jew faggot market manipulation I can recall. This shit is so phoned in and contrived it’s like watching a bad soap opera or some corny cliche movie

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 2 23:14:04 2020 No.23000318 >>23000246 10% shareholders ("principal shareholders") start to get lumped in with insiders, more restrictions on buying/selling in other words he wouldn't be able to back out of GME easily once he goes past 10%

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 2 23:15:02 2020 No.23000331 >>23000128 I got a 2 day ban the night of the debate for saying that both candidates were too old to run the country. FUCK JANNIES THATS RIGHT YOU FAGGOT JANNY READING THIS NOW FUCK YOU

Anonymous Fri Oct 2 23:17:38 2020 No.23000368
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>>22999933
Imagine being so dumb that you are buying tech stocks in this inflated bear market. Any fool that buys now is going to be bag holding for 10-15 years.

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 2 23:18:29 2020 No.23000379 >>23000368 >1d

Anonymous Fri Oct 2 23:19:11 2020 No.23000385
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Is anyone thinking about capitalizing on this dip? The whole trump has corona thing is ultimately meaningless but apparently has an effect on the market.

I'm still essentially new to this. spent a few hours today looking at companies with a good P/E and ROE and everything that were down 2%+ today for no good reason, then realized I have no idea what I'm doing.

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 2 23:19:47 2020 No.23000390 File: 13 KB, 322x322, 1601426341765.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Everything was going fucking great until AH and Trump going to the hospital fucking dumped everything.

Anonymous Fri Oct 2 23:20:02 2020 No.23000392
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>>23000137
What's interesting is that he bought even more shares the second time around at the higher price. He must not care that it went to 8.6 and in fact think the company is incredibly undervalued even at 8.6 to buy that much. I did the math and the total investment he made was roughly $50 million. Given that he is a supposedly a billionaire, with listed networth ranging from 600mil-2bil this is not like he is going "all in" or anything, and if his average cost basis is 7.5 he has already made enough to exit. The question is still though, with almost a 10% stake he has a lot of leverage over the board and the direction of the company so what is his plan? It's like he doesn't want to be fully the CEO but wants enough leverage to tell them how to fix the company.

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 2 23:20:29 2020 No.23000399 File: 6 KB, 1158x54, gme 10 2.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] MONDAY MOTHERFUCKERS

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 2 23:20:51 2020 No.23000402 >>23000390 It was going far from great but that was the shit icing on the shit cake.

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 2 23:21:04 2020 No.23000405 File: 288 KB, 1077x1166, Screenshot_20201002-201938_Chrome.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>23000379 Imagine being so dumb, you think the market has only been going down for a day.

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 2 23:21:19 2020 No.23000408 >>23000399 Monday what? they'll keep dodging it

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 2 23:21:55 2020 No.23000415 File: 26 KB, 750x750, 1421813138567.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] SWBI 11/20 25C. You're welcome, fellas.

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 2 23:22:12 2020 No.23000419 >>23000408 if we aren't at least green ill eat my own cock

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 2 23:22:28 2020 No.23000424 File: 44 KB, 600x651, d5e.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>23000399

Anonymous Fri Oct 2 23:22:41 2020 No.23000426
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>>23000368
just buy TSM if you want a value pick that also has good fundamentals and isn't just a value trap.
this shit is either crabbing or finally rallying upwards a bit.

it's also been growing as fast as MSFT ever since GlobalFoundries fucked out of the race. Intel fucked out of the race this year, and Samsung is next and already lagging behind massively

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 2 23:23:07 2020 No.23000432 File: 48 KB, 585x501, 1597160110425.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>23000402 It was going great for me fren. The day could have been much worse.

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 2 23:23:22 2020 No.23000435 File: 326 KB, 585x516, Screen Shot 2020-09-29 at 11.41.00 PM.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>23000419 I will hold you to that anon. I'll be here.

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 2 23:24:26 2020 No.23000449 >>23000399 Checked

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 2 23:27:27 2020 No.23000491 Someone please tell me SHLL (HYLN) will be okay....I'm down 550

Anonymous Fri Oct 2 23:27:44 2020 No.23000493
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>>23000385
I would if I had cash on hand. I had already deployed most of my cash the last two days. I could sell some crypto but I'm not that desperate. Monday will probably be bad with the media hyping up Trump being "super sick" over the weekend but he'll get over it and then we will go back up. If some sort of stimulus is passed we're cleared for launch though.

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 2 23:28:07 2020 No.23000499 >>23000399 I thought Friday was the absolute deadline.

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 2 23:29:15 2020 No.23000518 >>23000499 Won't they just pay a nominal amount and keep extending the deadline out? Pretty sure its not a hard set rule :/

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 2 23:29:53 2020 No.23000527 >>23000385 >The whole trump has corona thing is ultimately meaningless but apparently has an effect on the market. >I'm still essentially new to this. Be careful. New traders have tons of confidence until the first time you get burned bad.

Anonymous Fri Oct 2 23:30:15 2020 No.23000539

>>23000392
that move was just a stunt, probably as part of a deal with the board members to boost shareholder confidence? He didn't have to file for that at all, it was a change less than 1%
And again, not being more than 10% right now is not necessarily because he doesn't want to, but because there are SEC regulations that make hostile takeovers difficult. That's why people are speculating on a potential tender offer from Ryan Cohen, but the board probably won't accept anything lower than $20/share so we haven't seen anything yet

For the record, his cost basis is still around ~$5 range even after that

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 2 23:32:03 2020 No.23000568 Frens I got a good job today :) now I can afford to invest an extra 1k/month

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 2 23:32:59 2020 No.23000582 File: 11 KB, 598x84, 2552522.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >I think UHM GUYS

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 2 23:33:11 2020 No.23000585 no shit cat boys you srs

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 2 23:34:59 2020 No.23000607 >>23000568 Congrats anon.

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 2 23:35:00 2020 No.23000609 >>23000582 Is the crash canceled?

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 2 23:35:31 2020 No.23000616 >>23000582 >didn't use 'the greatest' or 'perfect' he got it bad boys, RIP

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 2 23:36:57 2020 No.23000627 >>23000609 Not even close. Hed have to be released from the hospital like tomorrow and doing back flips and pull ups Monday is going to be nasty

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 2 23:38:03 2020 No.23000638 GME is like a beautiful Thai girl. She looks hot but you aren’t sure if it’s a dude. I wish Cohen would give us a hint.

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 2 23:38:43 2020 No.23000651 >>23000627 >The experimental vaccine gave him super powers

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 2 23:39:09 2020 No.23000656 HYLN BROS TELL ME EVERYTHING IS GOING TO BE OK FUCK FUCK FUCK

Anonymous Fri Oct 2 23:39:15 2020 No.23000660

>>23000582
>those twitter replies
wow, how fucked up is your country when most of your citizens don't even respect the president
that seems kinda infuriating and im not even american

for the record im a leaf and i don't like Trump because he fucked us over by abolishing NAFTA (which was heavily in favor for us) but it seems kinda fucked to me how he gets no respect at all especially when he's at the high-risk group for covid so covid is actually not a joke to him

Anonymous Fri Oct 2 23:39:31 2020 No.23000665

>>23000527
>Be careful. New traders have tons of confidence until the first time you get burned bad.

I appreciate the advice, I am currently using about 10% of my free cash to try to learn, the rest still goes into 401ks and boomer investing.

I have currently learned
>just because REITs have returned between 2% and 30% every year for the last 10 years doesn't mean you can't lose money on them
>There is a shit ton to learn, even just terms
>There is an international trading fee of $50 that Schwab doesn't explicitly tell you about
>Don't buy penny stocks that randos shill. ever.

The one thing I did right was not actually lose real money while trying to learn the ropes.

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 2 23:40:20 2020 No.23000674 >>23000660 he's a fucking idiot and most of the country hates him we will celebrate when he dies

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 2 23:40:21 2020 No.23000675 >>23000660 if this is a surprise to you...

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 2 23:41:46 2020 No.23000694 >>23000660 Twitter is cancer and not the real world

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 2 23:41:57 2020 No.23000696 >>23000674 We’re trying to make money here sir, lefty pol is on discord

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 2 23:42:11 2020 No.23000699 i wish i bought REGN calls today. that shit is giong to moon in a week if trump clears his sickness. on the other hand iits going to crash if Trump goes on a ventilator

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 2 23:42:54 2020 No.23000709 >>23000539 >For the record, his cost basis is still around ~$5 range even after that What? It literally says where he bough in and it's nowhere near 5

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 2 23:44:01 2020 No.23000723 https://twitter.com/KenanPerry/status/1311916589894176768

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 2 23:44:05 2020 No.23000725 >>23000699 Worth buying premarket Monday?

Anonymous Fri Oct 2 23:44:10 2020 No.23000727

>>23000665
>Don't buy penny stocks that randos shill. ever.
This goes for any stock. I have embarrassingly made that mistake a few times. Randomly buying a stock because someone in /smg/ makes an OOOOOOOOOOOOOOO post. Usually a bad idea. Take tips from here, but do your own research.

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 2 23:44:33 2020 No.23000732 >>23000709 That was his second and third purchase. Add up the shares and you will realize it's not 10% of the company.

Anonymous Fri Oct 2 23:45:56 2020 No.23000745

>>23000675
well we have Trudeau and he's a fucking clown and has had like 2 or 3 outright conflict-of-interest bullshit as Prime Minister and is easily worse than Trump as a leader, but he still gets treated with respect
sort of
we even had a Toronto mayor smoking crack and he still got respect.

as a leaf, Trump seems pretty competent in comparison so im actually surprised he'd still get so much hate even when he can actually die from covid given all his risk factors. Seems kinda insensitive and holy fuck i hope America doesn't fall apart from all those shitty citizens because our maple economy counts on you guys

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 2 23:46:57 2020 No.23000756 >>23000745 It's the kike media that propogates the hate towards him

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 2 23:47:01 2020 No.23000757 >>23000660 Twitter is a young, left-leaning platform. It's not representative of the country as a whole, and it is basically what you should expect there.

Anonymous Fri Oct 2 23:47:39 2020 No.23000767

>>23000245
I did buy today because i decided to stop timing shit and make a long hold portfolio so idgaf.

>>23000660
This is how everyone from the history of US presidents act and think towards the president/party they dont like. whigs and democrats talked mad shit to each other in civilized english but the sentiment is the same to these tweets. Its called free speech and americans use it as well as take it for granted. the internet has only made it more apparent.

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 2 23:48:24 2020 No.23000777 >>23000745 Trudeau bows to the fags and niggers, so he is tolerated. This should be obvious by now..

Anonymous Fri Oct 2 23:48:36 2020 No.23000779

>>23000660
Oh that's just the blue checkmark brigade and the paid shitposters working for you know which notorious short seller. They shitpost reply to everything he says as a group. It is a pretty crazy situation that has developed over the last few years but not unique to this one particular tweet.

Anonymous Fri Oct 2 23:48:40 2020 No.23000780

>>23000732
>September 21, 2020 - RC Ventures LLC has filed an SC 13D/A form with the Securities and Exchange Commission (SEC) disclosing ownership of 6,500,000 shares of GameStop Corp. (US:GME). This represents 9.98 percent ownership of the company. In their previous filing dated August 31, 2020, RC Ventures LLC had reported owning 6,215,326 shares, indicating an increase of 4.58 percent.

Ah... You're right. With that being said, there is likely still a lot of support in those ranges (6.5, 8.6)

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 2 23:48:49 2020 No.23000783 bullish

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 2 23:49:47 2020 No.23000793 >>23000157 Cringe

Anonymous Fri Oct 2 23:50:12 2020 No.23000798

>>23000757
ok you're right, i shouldn't bother with twitter at all since it sounds infuriating as shit. I didnt even know about the harry potter bullshit until all the apparent ""hate"" with the new Harry Potter game in the PS5 showcase
for all the apparent hate it gets, it's clear no one actually gives a shit and 99% of the fans are obviously hyped for the new game

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 2 23:51:13 2020 No.23000813 >>22999933 Put 12k into XOM, now it’s worth 8k. Thinking of cutting my loses and selling all my shares. Good or bad idea? Thinking of pumping the money into SPAQ and COST

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 2 23:53:57 2020 No.23000842 >>23000798 Twitter is the closest thing to an opposite of 4chan. It's just a left-leaning argument simulator.

Anonymous Fri Oct 2 23:54:05 2020 No.23000844
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>>23000745
Canadians are generally respectful, Americans are not, even less recently. Did you not see all the racist monkey posters and other shit when Obama was president. Don't want to spin out on /pol/ shit, just saying lack of respect for politicians in america isn't anything new.

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 2 23:54:32 2020 No.23000850 ITS FRIDAY FRIDAY GOTTA GET DOWN ON FRIDAY

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 2 23:54:44 2020 No.23000857 I’ve watched my wife lay with a negro.

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 2 23:55:25 2020 No.23000864 >>23000660 Most of those people can't or won't vote.

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 2 23:57:27 2020 No.23000876 >apple closed green on an upward trend that's pretty much a bullish week

Anonymous Fri Oct 2 23:57:31 2020 No.23000880
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>>23000745
>as a leaf, Trump seems pretty competent in comparison so im actually surprised he'd still get so much hate

I live in a medium size city and all my friends and family are super left wing.

My best bud is very very smart and he legitimately believes that 1) Trump is actively attempting to become the first ever dictator of the united states and 2) Trump is actually as bad as hitler and would genocide (some group of people?) if only he could get the left out of the way.

I'm not exaggerating. This is what an otherwise smart person unironically believes, and 90% of everyone I know is about on the same page.

Idk if everyone is just board and wants a cause or if everyone is going insane, but it's just crazy.

Anonymous Fri Oct 2 23:59:17 2020 No.23000904

>>23000880
>This is what an otherwise smart person unironically believes, and 90% of everyone I know is about on the same page.
I see this too. it's fucking crazy. i'm a fence sitting faggot so I feel like I can see how retarded and annoying both sides are

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 2 23:59:17 2020 No.23000905 File: 334 KB, 1920x1080, 9B1DF23A-FF2E-4052-8585-8B69C0D088AC.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] monday is going to be a bloodbath.. im not checking my broker all week

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 2 23:59:22 2020 No.23000907 I’ve never wished death on anyone but a Biden presidency would be ideal for all investors. With Trump you get severe volatility. With Biden you will get stability. Also does anyone know how to delete comments?

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 3 00:00:01 2020 No.23000910 >>23000880 >Hitler >bad

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 3 00:00:10 2020 No.23000913 >>23000723 >From Tel Aviv >Studied theatre and history >Lives a privileged californian lifestyle Not to mention his entire family is a bunch of political posting Trump haters, what a sad fucking life

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 3 00:02:20 2020 No.23000936 >>23000665 10% is way too much. Pro investors (read some books) only use 2-4% of their portfolio. They all talk about risk management, not picking winners.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 3 00:02:52 2020 No.23000940 File: 80 KB, 645x773, 1564101824970.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Another Friday night alone haha.....

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 3 00:05:17 2020 No.23000966 File: 50 KB, 850x400, 1569253293740.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>23000936 >He doesn't know about Peter Lynch

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 3 00:05:43 2020 No.23000971 >>23000426 >TSM IDK, I think that is a bit of a value trap. Tons of uncertainty.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 3 00:05:59 2020 No.23000972 >>23000907 Literally the opposite of this.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 3 00:06:04 2020 No.23000976 >>23000907 You check out these DUBS

Anonymous Sat Oct 3 00:06:13 2020 No.23000979
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>>23000936
risk of ruin is a bitch.
I suggest anons who are serious about not going broke read up on it. Even with stacked odds (60/40) risk of ruin using more than 1-2% of your capital on any position is significant.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 3 00:07:32 2020 No.23000989 >>23000368 Na, there are parts of the market that are really actually undervalued. Bank stocks JPM KEY basically any regional with solid technicals is a good open position right now.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 3 00:08:34 2020 No.23001000 File: 13 KB, 751x379, 13424235423154.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>23000527 As a new trader I can confirm this

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 3 00:08:46 2020 No.23001003 >>23000499 >>23000518 friday (today) at the end of trading ours is the deadline afaik, which means we won't see whatever happens til monday

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 3 00:09:57 2020 No.23001018 >>23000940 I have a wife but she doesn’t want to have children. Instead I’ve watch her bed with several negros. She says this will expand my sexual appetite.

Anonymous Sat Oct 3 00:10:01 2020 No.23001020

>>23000971
if you don't know or aren't willing to do any DD on the semiconductor industry, then don't put money in it then
the fact that you would call TSM a value trap when it's been growing as fast as MSFT recently is absolutely fucking ignorant and retarded, not to mention its stellar roadmap

like what the fuck do you think a value trap even is

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 3 00:12:21 2020 No.23001054 >>23001020 Taiwan

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 3 00:14:09 2020 No.23001083 File: 125 KB, 1000x749, 1601691980569.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>23000399 if this squeeze even happens im, im gonna....

BagholderExtraordinaire !kDjFcJuZkQ Sat Oct 3 00:14:38 2020 No.23001088

I want to apologize that i've been pushing trish regan's podcast.... i didn't realize the upfront extra clicks I apologize, and will never let this right wing mother's devotion will ever be comprehended as education... im sorry again.

thank you for everyting Mr. President... godspeed, sir, if your wife needs a quarantine companion it'd be the least i could do for my cuntry.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 3 00:14:53 2020 No.23001090 >>23001083 It’s not happening.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 3 00:16:10 2020 No.23001110 >>23001083 COOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOM

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 3 00:17:04 2020 No.23001121 >>23000399 Literally nothing worth noting.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 3 00:18:23 2020 No.23001135 >>23000813 you can put it into TSM, basically most of taiwans economy, and sell calls against it for 20% a week. its barely moved since the intcel incident. i would buy .90 delta calls instead of holding stock, way more leverage

Anonymous Sat Oct 3 00:22:07 2020 No.23001183
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>>23001020
>the fact that you would call TSM a value trap when it's been growing as fast as MSFT
Not that anon but I've seen everyone on reddit suggest investing in semiconductors and they've all been wrong about everything (for two months at least) except 1 person

Idk, aren't semiconductors priced in at this point? It's like MSFT did 3x the last year, does that mean you invest in MSFT now and get 3x?

Bear in mind I'm retarded.

BagholderExtraordinaire !kDjFcJuZkQ Sat Oct 3 00:24:29 2020 No.23001217

look a single ticker isn't a way to live your life as an investor...

risk management. everybody wants to get rich, it's super easy to get rich, but once you have money, how do you keep it and grow?

most people posting here actually understand hard work... the truth is, the vetting filter to actually find this thread is a bar on it's own....but it's like old school cliche, don't talk about fight club.

talking about investment decisions is verry personal. some cunt i give the health insurance and 401k plan to saiid her son iis proud he bought his 3rd share of tesla, and im like not going to tell her the kiid's a moron, i let her go happiily while i look at a company trading at 11 hundred p/e... let me say that one more time again. the kiid was proud of his third share, while the p/e ratio is 1100.... this shit will find support, but shit... uhh, i hope you have like at least 10 or 20 percent in precious metals and miners.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 3 00:24:36 2020 No.23001220 File: 448 KB, 719x834, 1601095625437.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>23000399 Based and coompilled

BagholderExtraordinaire !kDjFcJuZkQ Sat Oct 3 00:28:15 2020 No.23001257

I just don't believe Tesla can out compete manufactures that are already dedicated to their own cars.... people buy this company thinkiing space ex and it's a bubble ready to burst... fuck i don't care if the kid got in pre split or post spliit, the dumb bitch isn't smart and has a big mouth. I'd never trust her with anything.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 3 00:30:20 2020 No.23001272 >>23000415 Alright, I'll admit (and brag), I made over 350% on share/call plays on them back a few months ago, but why now.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 3 00:30:59 2020 No.23001281 >>23000910 This but unironically

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 3 00:31:27 2020 No.23001290 >>23000435 This pic is somewhat irrelevant because it will just incentivize businesses to use capital less for profits and more for expansions, write offs, etc. More tax for businesses isn't necessarily outright bad. For consumers, yes, that's bad.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 3 00:32:19 2020 No.23001298 >>23001272 >Alright, I'll admit (and brag), I made over 350% on share/call plays Explain how

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 3 00:33:02 2020 No.23001304 Pretty fucking torn over HYLN Not sure if I should just cut my losses or hope it grows in the next 3+ years Im not desperate so I can wait but fuck man

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 3 00:33:31 2020 No.23001308 >>23000907 Volatility is where the money is...

BagholderExtraordinaire !kDjFcJuZkQ Sat Oct 3 00:33:53 2020 No.23001314

watch tesla's market share shrrink while other start ups start rolling... work horse is a great example. we watched this companyy on the pink sheets go from 10 cents 40-50 cents in a single trump tweet, now it's fucking what ever, got institutional investors, even on yom kippur that broad susan li from fox business had to correct the guy cause he called it a ford truck, when iit was a work horse, and i was not going to get mad or do any work on yom kippur, but they did unveil on at the whitehouse, and that was pre-debate pre carona trump and uhh tesla was losing market share... it's like exit strategy slowly for testla... most of the broader picture is in the same outlook for the next 5-6 months...

BagholderExtraordinaire !kDjFcJuZkQ Sat Oct 3 00:36:14 2020 No.23001337

>>23001308
volatiliity trading is what i do... im short and long, it's going to break one way or the other this weekend... i really don't care that much... not caring about it makes the best, but i do have dreams and ambitions and crushing this market iis the easiiest way to do it.

Anonymous Sat Oct 3 00:36:56 2020 No.23001344

>>23001298
Well, alright.

I was trading quite actively and even went out to buy guns when the Chyna flu hit. I went to gun stores and most were at like 40% if that of inventory. Eventually after I bought 2 guns, it hit me that SWBI and a few others hadn't gone up yet, but their earnings should be significant.

So I bought a larger than normal amount (for my portfolio at that time) of calls dated past their earnings and a number of shares as well to hedge out some of the risk. The good news was, they also ended up doing a spin off (or something to that effect. So it went from AOBC to SBWI for me, and that added into it.

At one point my calls were up about 650% alone, but I got greedy, so I pulled them at about 358% (IIRC), shares did well too.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 3 00:37:05 2020 No.23001345 >>23001088 >>23001217 >>23001257 >>23001314 are you ok man

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 3 00:38:12 2020 No.23001356 >>23001337 I'll raise a glass to that. Didn't ask but I'll raise one anyways. Cheers man.

Anonymous Sat Oct 3 00:39:18 2020 No.23001362

>>23001183
like what are you even expecting anyways if TSM's low-risk returns are not satisfactory for you?
then just pick something else then if you're not even willing to look into the fundamentals of TSM. The top 3 picks of semiconductors are easily AMD/NVDA/TSM
the fact that you would call TSM a value trap is just absolutely hilarious and retarded

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 3 00:40:18 2020 No.23001376 >its a "baggie gets drunk and starts boomer rambling on smg" episode

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 3 00:41:08 2020 No.23001382 >>23001345 He sounds drunk

BagholderExtraordinaire !kDjFcJuZkQ Sat Oct 3 00:43:30 2020 No.23001410

>>23001345
i fell in love wiith a gook prostitute, i was trained in book keeping by a democrat yet orthodox jew who was 4 foot nothing, she's probably in her early 70's now, this kike taught me to hate physics and chemistry but trust numbers.... so i fell in love with theoretical physics and love chemistry from the tiniest atom to the biggest scale of how this will work... her insecurities became my strength. can't believe till this day i do ceremonial prayers and stuff in jewish faith... not for just her, but im also a jew... forced under duress into catholosisms or what ever... i have no anger in my heart. thank youl.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 3 00:45:10 2020 No.23001432 >>23001410 >theoretical physics >hate physics and chemistry

>>	BagholderExtraordinaire !kDjFcJuZkQ Sat Oct 3 00:47:32 2020 No.23001454 >>23001432 she hated that, ii fell in love wiith it... from the orbital level of electrons and energy levels from the stability of the kinetics.... to literally neton and einstiens relativity...

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 3 00:49:03 2020 No.23001472 >>23001410 youre the best baggie

BagholderExtraordinaire !kDjFcJuZkQ Sat Oct 3 00:49:52 2020 No.23001478

>>23001432
i mean i love sitting around thinking about quarks, and how spin of this particle would interact wiith that particle, and then some one's like baggie what's for lunch, and other peoples lives become infinitely more important in the moment.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 3 00:51:20 2020 No.23001497 >>22999963 I wonder how the guy that owns that company feels about his company being toyed with by weirdos with a gambling addiction on a shark petting forum

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 3 00:53:03 2020 No.23001513 >>23001362 The first 3 words I said were "not that anon". I am asking for an explanation as to why semiconductors are a better investment right now than any other generally solid stock. I legit don't know.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 3 00:53:03 2020 No.23001514 >>23001478 Thank you for your diary. Stocks man.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 3 00:54:26 2020 No.23001527 >>23001497 He's probably diamonds at all the attention and exposure

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 3 00:56:08 2020 No.23001545 File: 42 KB, 537x401, 1402496332650.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>23001344 Thanks for explaining man. Most people on /biz/ just post a graph showing they're up 3000% and then don't offer any insight at all.

BagholderExtraordinaire !kDjFcJuZkQ Sat Oct 3 00:56:50 2020 No.23001549

>>23001472
the only difference between who i learned from and ruth bader ginsburg is I have an opportunity to call the one who's still alive today, tomorrow. they were very simiilar even the style of glasses they wore... one had dark hair one had red hair, but she ended up stop dying and went full gray, short cut, like she was a 100% dike kike.... short hair damn... i have to at least call her, she'd love to hear from me, she doesn't have her own babies and probably thinks of me as one of her own.... she taught me everything she could. sometimes the student is better than the master, but the student must pay respect for what came before him.... that's just life and doing the right thing. ok.

>>	BagholderExtraordinaire !kDjFcJuZkQ Sat Oct 3 00:58:35 2020 No.23001564 actually... the only diifference between a student and master is... the master has been a learner for longer.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 3 00:59:30 2020 No.23001575 >>23001549 Autistic rambiling anon is drunk. You don't have to go home but you can't stay here.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 3 01:00:02 2020 No.23001583 >>23001549 Didnt you get last place in the Smg chess tournament?

>>	BagholderExtraordinaire !kDjFcJuZkQ Sat Oct 3 01:01:21 2020 No.23001596 >>23001583 fuck you. play me now https://lichess.org/SQklnGGc i didn't know we had a chess tourney...

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 3 01:01:25 2020 No.23001598 >>23001583 Whens the next one

>>	BagholderExtraordinaire !kDjFcJuZkQ Sat Oct 3 01:02:44 2020 No.23001620 >>23001598 it starts now who ever wins this plays the next one for the finals.

Anonymous Sat Oct 3 01:03:36 2020 No.23001628

>>23001513
Samsung is falling behind, can't do volume production on 5nm, trying to skip 3nm which will almost certainly end in disaster when they can't even get proper yields on 5nm. Transistor density is also behind so their 5nm is closer to TSM's 7nm. Intel is outsourcing to TSM now because Intel is retarded and is sticking to immersion lithography for some retarded reason even though they have access to ASML's EUVL equipment too. GlobalFoundries has dropped out of the race a couple years ago already and isn't a competitor.
TSM is growing to be a monopoly and no one can do anything about it, even China outside of outright starting a war with US for Taiwan. Chinese semiconductor companies are cucked out of western semiconductor tools/equipment, they cannot catch up to Intel never mind TSM.
ASML is not going to sell to China ever, ASML's R&D for EUVL was only possible through the support of the leading semiconductor manufacturers and China is not going to get a piece of it

now add that on top of TSM's more recent news that they have a proper roadmap to 3nm and 2nm. Roadmaps are everything in tech/semiconductors and it's the reason people can reasonably specualte in AMD's growth for the next 3 years because Intel is fucking SHIT and has basically conceded its expiring contracts for the next 3 years as it doesn't have 7nm as those contracts expected them too (not just server market share, this extends to shit like the Aurora supercomputer too).
AAPL, NVDA, AMD, QCOM, etc are all reliant on TSM's supply. TSM is not at the mercy of fluctuating demand like other semiconductor companies which are cyclical (see MU) because everyone is thirsty for their capacity. TSM's growth is only limited by the fact that it takes years to build new foundries from scratch which is why it's crabbing half the time. The Arizona plant will only be completed by 2023 for example.

etc etc etc, do your DD

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 3 01:04:01 2020 No.23001630 File: 26 KB, 652x737, 18198424_1947484568817500_8357604204312921134_n.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] It is 6 am on a saturday. Why am I here? Why do I have nothing to do? Anons...

BagholderExtraordinaire !kDjFcJuZkQ Sat Oct 3 01:04:07 2020 No.23001631

>>23001583
>>23001596
you assholes are loading up your stockfish and fucking houdini emulators to make me play vs computer... fucking take your time. i'll get last place, then when we meet we play with real pieces... i will accept a defeat then.

Anonymous Sat Oct 3 01:04:24 2020 No.23001633

>>23000780
Liquidation value of the company is probably around $5. It's hard to say because their cash flow situation probably changed with console orders, leases ending, and whatever deals they made with MSFT and Sony.
GME's market cap still reflects serious uncertainty. If the company actually survives and carves out an e-commerce niche its market cap could easily be 3 or 4 times higher. I don't understand how this works, but I think Cohen does, look at CHWY.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 3 01:04:49 2020 No.23001641 >>23001620 Fugg I'm going to sleep and I dont have a lichess acct but ill make one tomorrow

>>	BagholderExtraordinaire !kDjFcJuZkQ Sat Oct 3 01:05:07 2020 No.23001645 >>23001630 look at the sunrrise, and have fun... ii wish i was in europe now.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 3 01:05:08 2020 No.23001647 >>23001631 ill warn you im very bad at chess

Anonymous Sat Oct 3 01:08:13 2020 No.23001676

>>23001628
oh i forgot to mention that TSM's yields on their wafers is fucking amazing, practically perfect
yields are everything in this game. Too many flaws and the wafer's useless. That's kinda how AMD rose to prominence thanks to their chiplet design to cut costs, but in hindsight i dont think they even need that with TSM's yields

their strong fundamentals are very apparent when their yields are even better on 5nm than on 7nm. It's so good they managed to grow as fast as fucking microsoft despite being a manufacturer that you expect to have shittier margins than your usual tech company

but do your own fucking DD and don't just go on the info off the top of my head

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 3 01:09:21 2020 No.23001683 >>23001645 Is this you baggy or an imposter. It's a different trip.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 3 01:10:43 2020 No.23001689 Also what is everyone's thoughts on REGN. Seems like an obvious play. It hasn't mooned yet and if it works for Trump it could moon.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 3 01:12:30 2020 No.23001704 File: 155 KB, 1280x720, 1404219331260.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] I'm digging this chess match. dunno who is who but it's great.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 3 01:12:36 2020 No.23001705 >>23000660 >most Twitter is filled with the worst and loudest people. And yes, these lying evil fucks are infuriating.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 3 01:12:58 2020 No.23001711 >>23001704 im white

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 3 01:17:29 2020 No.23001738 File: 112 KB, 357x450, 1400819515975.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>23001711 Go man GO. I was legit rooting for you since black did that aggressive queen shit.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 3 01:20:22 2020 No.23001764 >>23001738 aaaaaaa nooooooooooooooooooo

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 3 01:21:14 2020 No.23001776 What the hell, is everyone just playing chess?

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 3 01:21:45 2020 No.23001781 FUCK i cant believe i botched that

>>	BagholderExtraordinaire !kDjFcJuZkQ Sat Oct 3 01:22:23 2020 No.23001791 white pieces are racist... i resign because blacks never go fiist...

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 3 01:22:47 2020 No.23001794 >>23001791 gg bro you would of had me

BagholderExtraordinaire !kDjFcJuZkQ Sat Oct 3 01:26:40 2020 No.23001836

>>23001781
nah it's like i tried to castle but just move my g 5 or what ever you call it..... shit i lost because i resiigned, black pieces are just as useful as white piieces. i already closed the window... we didn't have a checkmate, it was just bad chess all around... started with kings pawn, i played caro-kann, i donated a few pieces we got into a position, where white had rooks paired and the white player forgot his king was forcing a situation, looked too broadly and not at the goal... i capitalized, took a rook and resigned, ii had no business winning that game. my own mistakes should be punishable, i remember 3 f rom that single game... some how i actually had a way to win, but i made too many mistakes so i can't be the best player....

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 3 01:28:20 2020 No.23001851 >>23001836 im too impatient to think far ahead so i just fuck around... good game imo. lets play again sometime

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 3 01:28:40 2020 No.23001856 File: 422 KB, 1752x2328, Untitled.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] any other retards think oil is ready to buy

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 3 01:29:16 2020 No.23001860 >>23000725 dunno i have bad luck buying shit on premarket usually dumps right on open as people sell for profit. for overnight or overweekend moons i think its better to wait like 15 minutes at lest past opening to wait for a dip then buy

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 3 01:29:22 2020 No.23001861 >>23001851 i hope i dont get banned for this shit my last ban just expired uh STOCKS STOCKS STOCKS

BagholderExtraordinaire !kDjFcJuZkQ Sat Oct 3 01:31:52 2020 No.23001885

>>23001794
like when ii jkust moved my king into the potential cross check or discover check i should have lost immediately... i wanted to go to like queen's side comfy castle, instead i drop the piece all fucked up spend 3 moves pairing rooks when it should have took one, gave you tempo... you had an opportunity to take my night with not much interaction and gave me a gifted mistake... there was an example of how to play bad, but in my defense... i totally expected you to be using the top, highest level of machine learning and stuff to beat me... I had fun gg, and thank you.

Anonymous Sat Oct 3 01:31:56 2020 No.23001886
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>>23001856
>any other retards think oil is ready to buy
I'm a retard and have been considering buying into fossil fuels for a mid term game.

My only rational is that it'll all get started again post-covid, which could apply to a million things like cruise lines and air lines.
Like I said, I'm retarded.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 3 01:32:05 2020 No.23001888 >>23001861 Ro you honestly want to know the best way to avoid ridiculous bans? Buy 2 4chan passes and get a vpn if you don't have one. Best $40 I ever spent.

Anonymous Sat Oct 3 01:32:17 2020 No.23001890
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>>23000527
Only been trading for 3 months and after a lot of dumb mistakes and lessons learned I’m about even again. I would have been profitable had I sold PLTR after it hit 11.40. Got 100 shares as it dropped. Now I’m bagholding again.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 3 01:33:09 2020 No.23001902 >>23001856 i bought $500 worth of MRO today but im not expecting any real action on it for a couple years. mostly just gonna get a few bucks every quarter in dividends

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 3 01:33:24 2020 No.23001903 File: 145 KB, 1280x720, spriteishere.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] A good chunk of my portfolio being sold from my covered calls. Selling at the top while making money feels good.

BagholderExtraordinaire !kDjFcJuZkQ Sat Oct 3 01:33:52 2020 No.23001909

>>23001851
ok, but im fresh off a ban too, we're going to use this game, chess li.chess.org or what ever.. IMHO i've used ever free chess shit there has been since 2006 this one is top notch, just fyi... we're going to make a market for chess, uhh i dunno, this is the gambler's forum kinda...

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 3 01:34:10 2020 No.23001910 >>23001886 Don't. Maybe getting into nat gas because winter is just around the corner, but stay the fuck away from oil

>>	BagholderExtraordinaire !kDjFcJuZkQ Sat Oct 3 01:35:50 2020 No.23001919 https://lichess.org/ncLG7uhM so we're going to do a chess tourrnament... ii don't have any social media, we'll make siign ups, losers buy winners choices in equitiies or something.... this could be a fun thing.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 3 01:36:06 2020 No.23001923 File: 91 KB, 530x394, 1400844480919.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>23001909 >chess li.chess.org or what ever. Give me a link. I haven't played chess in like a decade.

>>	BagholderExtraordinaire !kDjFcJuZkQ Sat Oct 3 01:36:50 2020 No.23001936 im, thinking like all these brokers are offering sliices and robind hood lets you buy with a buck.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 3 01:38:21 2020 No.23001948 >>23001909 >>23001923 lichess is great man its my go to for playing with friends

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 3 01:38:32 2020 No.23001952 >>23001886 >>23001910 >>23001902 You would think after the Russia-Saudi Oil War, March sell off, high supply low demand, increasing oil production and fall season reduction in traffic volume would bottom oil out between October-December.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 3 01:39:43 2020 No.23001968 File: 701 KB, 1800x1200, gme breaky.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] monday bros.... gn........

Anonymous Sat Oct 3 01:40:59 2020 No.23001977
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Can any veterans answer a few questions?

>Are options guaranteed sales at a price as opposed to current market value? If not, what's their advantage over normal trading?
>What determines Market Value, especially in companies that are extremely liquid?
>Who the hell loses so much if you're making money on swing trades and day trading?
>How are dividends determined? Do you have to be vested at a certain time or for a certain length of time?
>Where can I do my own research on companies to find info on whether dividends are available or on what they do?
>How does a company's market value affect them on a quarterly basis if all the money is transferred between traders and brokerages?

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 3 01:41:13 2020 No.23001978 >>23001952 You would think so, but we are moving away from fossil fuels in a slow fashion, but even Trump is ok with moving away from fossil fuels. If Biden wins it will likely be even faster.

Anonymous Sat Oct 3 01:42:18 2020 No.23001986

>>23001890
Everyone at the start gets a few good sales or gets scared and sells at a loss but everyone always ends up with bags that acummume until you turn into a mid or long trader. The secret is to have a sell level. my min is +$200 Before I sell and that's only after eyeballing it hard and a diverse portfolio so you don't dump 50k on one stock then get arse raped by sick orange man. Saying that though your less likely to get lucky and turn it into a million over a month.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 3 01:43:57 2020 No.23001998 >>23001978 Not for a couple decades will that be the norm I definitely see these bad boys going up next year. They likely won't reach 2002 oil era prices again tho.

Anonymous Sat Oct 3 01:44:29 2020 No.23002000

>>23001977
>Are options guaranteed sales at a price as opposed to current market value? If not, what's their advantage over normal trading?
Yes if they hit the strike price and you exercise them. The "advantage" of options over owning shares is leverage, but all that means is you will lose money faster than normal for most people. There is a reason you rarely see people who sell options ever getting justed.
The rest of your questions are a little too in depth to type out. Use investipedia for that.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 3 01:45:26 2020 No.23002010 Got a stupid question, if I short a call that gets assigned, and have enough shares of the underlying to cover the assignment from an earlier purchase, will all brokers automatically go through those shares first rather than buying from the market?

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 3 01:45:48 2020 No.23002014 >>23001998 Even some oil companies are saying that oil may never recover. It's frankly just not a very smart play right now. There are so many better options out there.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 3 01:46:04 2020 No.23002019 File: 172 KB, 1794x776, file.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] BUY Wendy's (WEN) Least impacted by COVID19 Still cheap compared to MCD and SHAK

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 3 01:46:07 2020 No.23002021 >>23001968 The whole market is going to be green Monday

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 3 01:46:38 2020 No.23002022 >>23002010 >if I short a call What do you mean?

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 3 01:47:29 2020 No.23002033 >>23000069 Jannies on biz are fucking aids big time

Anonymous Sat Oct 3 01:48:27 2020 No.23002040

>>23002019
Wendy's isn't keeping up in the fast food wars. Mcdonald's and taco bell mostly dominate, burger king is so desperate they are practically giving away food. Wendy's still tends to have higher prices than most and isnt keeping up with their marketing imo.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 3 01:48:27 2020 No.23002041 >>23002022 Have ~130 shares of MSFT sold 1 MSFT call, gets assigned Want to confirm brokers will use up my existing shares first before trying to buy new ones

Anonymous Sat Oct 3 01:49:26 2020 No.23002053
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>>23002022
>>if I short a call
>What do you mean

I am also interested in this. I've been lurking for months and the only reason I'm posting so much now is because /biz/ seems to be dead right now.

Anonymous Sat Oct 3 01:50:18 2020 No.23002062

>>23001304
HYLN will be fine. If it goes under 36, that's when to worry....or to buy heavily.

Traders were in HYLN hoping for a NKLA pump...never happened. So they fled...good fucking riddance. I have full faith in this company. It's going to 80-100. Will buy heavy calls on it, if it dips under 36. Be ready to buy the dip.

They're the Tractor Semi EV winners. Their vehicles literally make the environment better unlike purely electric vehicles that still harm the environment, but not as bad as ICE vehicles.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 3 01:50:53 2020 No.23002069 File: 66 KB, 828x1045, edaw.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Bull run incoming.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 3 01:51:07 2020 No.23002070 Buy CLF

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 3 01:51:21 2020 No.23002073 >>23002040 YUM is doing badly but they are too segreated, Burger King is Trash and QSR has Tim Horton's but Popeye's is good

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 3 01:52:35 2020 No.23002083 >>23001856 My Insider contact in Oil industry says absolutely not. Still too much supply of oil. Wouldn't touch that industry until vaccine.

Anonymous Sat Oct 3 01:53:31 2020 No.23002090
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>>23002041
>Have ~130 shares of MSFT
>sold 1 MSFT call, gets assigned
>Want to confirm brokers will use up my existing shares first before trying to buy new one

OK, as an idiot with a boomer portfolio let me interpret this.
You have 130 shares of microsft.
You sold 1 call of microsft (100 shares)
....oh shit, I still don't understand calls and puts even though i thought i did.

Anonymous Sat Oct 3 01:56:22 2020 No.23002117

>>23002041
Oh so you're selling covered calls that's not shorting.
>Want to confirm brokers will use up my existing shares first before trying to buy new ones
Again I'm not really sure what you mean
>>23002053
/smg/ on the weekend can be hit or miss. I'm trying to keep it alive and busy by replying to everyone.
>>23002073
You're mostly right, but at the end of the day you have to admit that taco bell is the best value dollar for dollar. You're right about burger kind though. I could see them almost vanishing in 30 years.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 3 01:56:25 2020 No.23002118 >>23002069 That's a BS letter. We'll know his true condition between Monday-Friday.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 3 01:57:09 2020 No.23002122 https://www.offshore-energy.biz/borr-drilling-keeping-busy-as-rigs-head-to-new-assignments/

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 3 01:57:48 2020 No.23002125 Seriously though PLTR bro’s. What’s the future looking like?

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 3 01:58:11 2020 No.23002128 >>23002053 Don't let the alpha chads scare you, they can only call you rude names. Based Divvy Anon usually takes most of the flack anyway.

BagholderExtraordinaire !kDjFcJuZkQ Sat Oct 3 01:58:15 2020 No.23002131

bong brro... your prime minester lives, you beat me twice. I am from irish, scottish heritage... ii have a welsh flag in my home here in america.... i love fishing, boating, sex with women, and drinking. you won with both pieces... you take care, pray for us americans, our chiief caught the coof... ii prayed for boris, i've been praying for brexit, and look, i've had a few too many pints, and need to call it a night. before we get into fights. I just want to say gg, thank you, and we will have to orrganize an smg chess tournament. next weekend closes sign ups. im baggie and bagholder, i'll reply to any you, just give me a code name and ticker.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 3 01:58:20 2020 No.23002133 >>23002041 I think they're supposed to use your existing shares as long as it's a normal covered call, I'm just some guy on the internet though, ask your broker.

Anonymous Sat Oct 3 01:59:53 2020 No.23002141

>>23002118
His doctor did indeed say that, although I don't know anything about the document. Monday and Tuesday are going to be crucial days to determine his healthy. All I'm holding right now is SPXS, UVXY, and SQQQ. If he is confirmed good I'll sell when the news is released. His rather lovey dovey tweets lately make me wonder if he's nervous.

>>	BagholderExtraordinaire !kDjFcJuZkQ Sat Oct 3 02:00:08 2020 No.23002147 i think i may be coming down with the coof, but my attitude is fuck you. you're never going to see me in a doctors office unless i'm really really fucked up.

Anonymous Sat Oct 3 02:01:16 2020 No.23002151

>>23002117
>Again I'm not really sure what you mean
I've had the stocks for a while and want to turn some of them to a covered call. I want to know if I sell a naked call, will my broker (IBKR) put two and two together and recognize it's a covered call without me having to tell them manually.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 3 02:01:38 2020 No.23002152 >>23002147 You never answered my question earlier are you actually baggie or someone else because baggie normally uses a different trip?

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 3 02:01:53 2020 No.23002154 >>23002125 crabbing for the next 2 years until they lose their contract and drop to $3.50

Anonymous Sat Oct 3 02:02:53 2020 No.23002162
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Ok, good night fellas. I have literally learned nothing of value from /biz over the last few months, but I'm goin to be back forever because allowing my boomer portfolio to let me retire at 65 is just not quite good enough.
Godspeed you useless assholes.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 3 02:03:33 2020 No.23002165 >>23002131 blessed dreams

Anonymous Sat Oct 3 02:03:43 2020 No.23002172

>>23002141
Lol, you're a tool if you believe anything in the white house without outside confirmation.

He's not allowed to release any negative letter anon. It's a matter of national security at this point. Can't make US/Trump seem vulnerable internationally.

Anonymous Sat Oct 3 02:04:03 2020 No.23002179

>>23002151
Oh ok I think I know what you mean. Yes, at least in Robinhood when you go to sell a covered call it shows at the bottom of the transaction screen how many shares you have as collateral. So yes, it will use your existing shares. Otherwise it would be a naked call which you don't want.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 3 02:04:22 2020 No.23002181 >>23000907 If Biden wins the US will just fall faster under communism and we will all be starving to death in a gulag.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 3 02:05:29 2020 No.23002191 >>23002172 The only reason I say that is because cbs reported word for word what that document said. If your rebuttal is that the news is wrong/lying/uninformed, than I understand. I'm just going off of what info is available.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 3 02:06:02 2020 No.23002196 >>23002181 Same thing said about Obama. Never happened. Stop falling for /Pol shit. What will happen is a big dip, followed by recovery in 1-3 months.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 3 02:07:37 2020 No.23002209 >>23002196 is not /pol/ shit antifa supports Biden for a reason.

Anonymous Sat Oct 3 02:09:26 2020 No.23002226

>>23002191
I'm holding SQQQ/UVXY as well in case of the worse...as well as a hedge. So I'm in the same boat.

I'm personally going to sell half of that on Monday, quarter on Tuesday and rest on Wednesday.

Just take anything from the white house as fud. For all we know, it could be the someone else that printed that document.

Anonymous Sat Oct 3 02:09:28 2020 No.23002228

>>23002209
Antifa and BLM do not support Biden. There is a reason Bernie bros talked about possibly voting for Trump at one point. Biden is a corporate Democrat and will do none of the things the far left want. The DNC knows better than to rock the boat like that hence, why they pushed out an old dementia patient to run as president.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 3 02:10:32 2020 No.23002245 >>23001856 Purely on chart appearance, no. In fact it's threatening to either continue range or break down.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 3 02:11:47 2020 No.23002257 >>23002209 Don't be stupid anon. Hedge funds/institutions will find a way to make money off of any president.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 3 02:12:09 2020 No.23002264 File: 680 KB, 822x802, 1598872627513.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] If XOM drops bellow 30 I'm financially ruined.

Anonymous Sat Oct 3 02:12:37 2020 No.23002269

>>23001952
i think we are at the bottom right now or pretty close. im not sure how much lower it can go. Trump already said no more shutdowns and if the dems and biden they dont want to destroy the Trump economy right away with a lockdown because they will want to take credit for Trumps economy before destroying it themselves further down the road with idiotic socialist policies

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 3 02:13:06 2020 No.23002273 File: 31 KB, 680x392, 94A89CDF-BB9F-4857-A436-3F598DAFB81E.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>23002196 >Obamacare just skyrocketed my insurance x3 Nothing happened

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 3 02:13:59 2020 No.23002281 >>23002264 Lol, get out of Oil. In fact, the only oil company worth buying is Chevron. But even then, I would rather go the EV route. Go buy HYLN, NIO or Tesla. Easy gains on either of those 3. Workhorse is a maybe, still want it to drop more.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 3 02:14:04 2020 No.23002282 >>23002226 It's high risk obviously. Any bad news will sink the market early week but even the slightest good news will wipe out bears. I don't plan on holding for long.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 3 02:14:27 2020 No.23002284 Thoughts on costco? I'm thinking it could be a good buy because if/when there's a second wave of covid everyone will start panic buying there again

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 3 02:15:29 2020 No.23002292 File: 24 KB, 360x450, 500full-igor-bogdanoff.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>23002269 >i think we are at the bottom right now or pretty close

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 3 02:15:58 2020 No.23002296 >>23002273 Your insurance premiums don't matter compared to the massive sums of QE that is going to inflate this stock market for the next 3+ years. Fact.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 3 02:17:11 2020 No.23002307 File: 44 KB, 1024x734, 678FA2A5-9F89-46D8-A1BF-BC67624142C7.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Is TSM the absolute god tier theta gang stock? Divvy + value + dat juicy premium. Only bad thing is high entry cost

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 3 02:20:08 2020 No.23002330 >>23002062 I have no doubt in my mind that in good time this company is going to be profitable as fuck Its just waiting that is the hard part

Anonymous Sat Oct 3 02:21:03 2020 No.23002340
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>>23001977
>What determines Market Value, especially in companies that are extremely liquid?
There is 'fair value', which is a number you can calculate. Other things like price/earnings, price/book, etc. However, in live fire market conditions a lot of that goes out the window and you wind up at whatever market is willing to pay at whatever time. 'Overvalued' is usually loosely determined by p/e ratio way outside the sector average for the company. Like Tesla at its recent high.
>Who the hell loses so much if you're making money on swing trades and day trading?
Go in too hard on something and eat shit. Worse, double down after you eat shit to try to Martingale your way out.
>How are dividends determined? Do you have to be vested at a certain time or for a certain length of time?
Check out investopedia for this one.
>Where can I do my own research on companies to find info on whether dividends are available or on what they do?
It will say on the quote pay for the stock whether it pays a dividend or not. This information is also shown on any stock chart type site. Look for 'dividend yield'. For general research, peruse the links in the OP. Also don't forget to look at the company's own website.
>How does a company's market value affect them on a quarterly basis if all the money is transferred between traders and brokerages?
Executives and some employees own shares. The market cap of a company is also important for merger and acquisition deals. This is a really broad question though.

Anonymous Sat Oct 3 02:21:17 2020 No.23002341
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>>23002281
I'm already knee deep in this shit and can't take the losses.
Unless you can give me 2x that's not gambling on pharma or penny stocks I'm fucked, not all of it is my money too.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 3 02:24:26 2020 No.23002373 >>23002341 How deep are you in it? What are your losses?

BagholderExtraordinaire !kDjFcJuZkQ Sat Oct 3 02:24:40 2020 No.23002375

obamacare gave liberals mind control.... the goodie two shoe types going through school, the virgin women didn't meet good men, the good men basically gave the teacher the finger and signed up to go to iraq, the girls just got indoctrinated by lies so bad that the government funds sex changes for traitors awaiting justice, only for head nigger to commune a sentence for a boy lady that should be by statute up for the death penalty... no our tax money pays for the sex change gender confirmation psychopathy, but when i say homo sexuality is a mental disorder i get banned from all social media, when the evidence is clear as day if you do any research... it makes me sick,

don't buy oil yet, wait for california to figure out how to like put some fires out, but if you require heating oil... i'm not seeing any reason spot price would rise... locking into contracts is ok, just understand contango and how futures work.. staying warm, i have fire places and a forest full of shit to cut split and burn. i'ma spend more money on tobacco tax next year than i will to heat my house. So like fuck it. burn baby burn,

Anonymous Sat Oct 3 02:27:01 2020 No.23002390
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I've been browsing /smg/ since March, and I haven't invested a single cent into the market. I just feel like I'm learning a lot from reading all these generals everyday. What's wrong with me.

Anonymous Sat Oct 3 02:27:21 2020 No.23002392
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>>23002375
So I'm just gonna ask preemptively, is anyone gonna bake a new thread when it's time or will I have to. I'm on mobile but I can still bake of you are all too lazy to do so?

>>	BagholderExtraordinaire !kDjFcJuZkQ Sat Oct 3 02:27:58 2020 No.23002397 >>23002341 you fucked up, you bet more than you could afford to lose, get in the black and if you have to take a loan to do it... well there is always funding for people close...

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 3 02:28:43 2020 No.23002403 >>23002392 Clearly you want to do it so just do it

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 3 02:29:07 2020 No.23002407 >>23002390 stock market is a selfish game, you dont learn anything from anywhere, the end goal is that you learn to invest in yourself. You will never actually be net profitable in the stock market unless you buy the SPY, set and forget

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 3 02:29:32 2020 No.23002409 >>23002390 You're a cold footed faggot Just make a paper account like me. We can be faggots together.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 3 02:30:10 2020 No.23002411 >>23002403 Actually I don't want to do it whatsoever. I'm asking if I'm the last resort.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 3 02:33:34 2020 No.23002445 >>23002411 Then don't

BagholderExtraordinaire !kDjFcJuZkQ Sat Oct 3 02:35:33 2020 No.23002459

>>23002390
you haven't done anything but learned from others. you need courage. you have no courage. you can think a case of funko dolls will save yourr life, but when the shit hits the fan, you're going to want to have a real one.... you've got 0 experience and non of us understand how you can have such pitiful ambition.... your problem is simple as a simp it's one word "complaisancy" or how the fuck it's spelled... i've seen people like you... full of understanding who can't get off their ass and change the world? no big goals, no cares for ambitions dreams to create life changing opportunities for others around you... i want you to put on a mask and go to a church on sunday... don't worry about gosple or who's talking or even which denomitantion of faith i want you to look at the devotion of the followers and ask your self... why do they do it?

Anonymous Sat Oct 3 02:35:58 2020 No.23002462

>>23002340
Very briefly on dividends: you are entitled to a dividend if you own shares at close on the day BEFORE the ex dividend date. You can buy them that day if you wish and still be eligible for the div. You are not eligible for that quarter's dividend if you buy ON the ex dividend date or after. There is no minimum hold period or anything like that.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 3 02:36:43 2020 No.23002469 Someone shill me on HYLN. I missed the SHLL train and now I'm wondering when a good time to jump in in HYLN will be. I am assuming the recent dump was just people cashing in their chips, is it a good time to buy or is it still pretty volatile?

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 3 02:37:53 2020 No.23002482 >>23002445 Ok then I'm trusting you will make the next thread.

>>	BagholderExtraordinaire !kDjFcJuZkQ Sat Oct 3 02:38:01 2020 No.23002484 >>23002392 i hate it bros... she hates ladies day, period fucking uhh whats that other thing??? meh i mean she doesn't need a baby even though iit stops her trouble.. i figure i can knock her up at least 7 or 8 times.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 3 02:38:57 2020 No.23002490 >>23002228 Both groups are part of the left you fucking idiot. so if you vote for Biden than you support terrorism.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 3 02:39:40 2020 No.23002498 >>23002484 I take it you aren't getting your red wings tonight? Does that creature live with you btw?

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 3 02:40:09 2020 No.23002505 >>23002307 I'm considering starting this. How far out should the strike be when I sell my first put? Weeklies or monthlies? Or longer to capture more theta decay?

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 3 02:41:37 2020 No.23002521 So the consensus on GME is that the short squeeze thesis is dead, and the bullish argument hinges on the console cycle and the company's expanding ecommerce generating FCF right?

BagholderExtraordinaire !kDjFcJuZkQ Sat Oct 3 02:41:56 2020 No.23002525
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>>23002392
ill pre-emptively bake, but we arren't at 300 posts or close to page 10. ii get iit, the thread can't die, but i don't want all the embeded embeded, shit gets copied by other phone posters and we end up with a truly shit op.

ima re-read the whole op, and propose changes. I've uhh probably contributed some where in there. memories are always nice.

Anonymous Sat Oct 3 02:42:02 2020 No.23002527
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GOD DAMN THAT PIZZA BITCH IS CUTE AS FUCK

>Tfw Sunny got me curious about the full Araki Trilogy
>I have no friends interested in watching and discussing these films
GOD
DAMN
IT

Anonymous Sat Oct 3 02:42:06 2020 No.23002528

>>23002490
Both groups are part of the far left. Biden is not far left. He already stated he wasn't going to defund the police and that he was going to not only condemn the violence,but put a stop to it. I'm not even voting for Biden but I'm just stating what he said.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 3 02:42:42 2020 No.23002533 File: 306 KB, 1013x1553, flood_chan5.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>23002390 JUMP IN AND GET WET there is no other way.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 3 02:43:29 2020 No.23002544 >>23002525 Thanks, that all I was asking. Baking on mobile is a bastard and I didn't want to have to do it unless absolutely necessary. It's obvious volume is low right now.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 3 02:44:47 2020 No.23002554 >>23002521 No, why the fuck do people keep saying this? >>23000211 >>23000211

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 3 02:45:23 2020 No.23002561 >>23002525 be honest with me did WATC just murder M:TG? And how much is that cardboard worth tot their bottom line?

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 3 02:52:19 2020 No.23002605 File: 186 KB, 1200x847, 1575292843072.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] I was away the last couple days, how is the stock market doing ? ZH is back to full doom and gloom also I might miss movie night (tbd)

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 3 02:55:05 2020 No.23002629 File: 355 KB, 475x664, iu.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>23002605 I've been away too! missed 3-4 movie nights maybe The market has been thrashing about but somehow my UVXY isn't making me money.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 3 02:55:36 2020 No.23002639 File: 14 KB, 560x52, Screen Shot 2020-10-02 at 1.11.49 PM.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>23000491 just get the free order fill trick for HYLN

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 3 02:55:49 2020 No.23002643 File: 23 KB, 445x267, Whitney-Houston-001.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>23002605 Let me sing you a line to get you up to speed. ahem NO MATTER WHAT THEY TAKE FROM ME, THEY CANT TAKE AWAY MY G-M-E!!!!

BagholderExtraordinaire !kDjFcJuZkQ Sat Oct 3 02:57:26 2020 No.23002660

>>23002561
dude the nerd in my office asked me today, did you see this product they're dropping, and i'm just like nope, all i got is i've been playing the arena, i understand the rules well enough to be a judge, but my devotion and priorities are elseware. i haven't bought a piece of their produced cardboard in over 10 years and the stuff i do own? i guess dual lands are worth stupid cash, i got play sets of all those, the power 10 thats more stupid cash... i mean i save up a whole paycheck getting $6.35 an hour to buy a few cards and a computer... the fucking piece of cardboard is worth over 12 thousand now. it's like long term investments pay off, but i probably just dump that even though it's shit im never selling... it's in my collection with my original salvadore dahli artwork and my rembrandt and picaso...

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 3 02:58:55 2020 No.23002672 >Most shorts are underwater at $7 and shorters are piling on faster than they're covering. >piling on faster than they're covering what does this mean?

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 3 03:00:28 2020 No.23002684 >>23002672 niggers gonna nig shorters gonna short me I don't want none of the above I want G M E

Anonymous Sat Oct 3 03:01:17 2020 No.23002689
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>>23002554
But the most recent Ortex data shows that shorts have been covering. SI has gone down along with the price. In the absence of further bullish news/filings from Cohen the price is likely to continue bleeding out as shorts cover slowly.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 3 03:01:27 2020 No.23002691 >>23002684 what does piling on faster than they're covering mean? what does covering mean? i have a 1/15/21 15c GME call

Anonymous Sat Oct 3 03:02:29 2020 No.23002697
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What the literal fuck is up with these premiums on HYLN? I'm not one to usually bother with covered calls because it feels like I'm risking too much but god fucking damn these premiums are ridiculous.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 3 03:07:44 2020 No.23002737 >>23002697 hey what do you think of this >>23002639 i got in HYLN at $0.00

Anonymous Sat Oct 3 03:08:45 2020 No.23002747

>>23002691
Covering refers to buying back shares to close your short position. When shorters pile on faster than they cover it means that more short positions are opened than they are closed which increases the short interest. However, the most recent Ortex data shows that short interest has been decreasing which makes it more likely that its the other way round (more short positions were closed than were opened)

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 3 03:11:02 2020 No.23002772 >>23002747 it seems like everyone's bagholding GME and buying calls and such? who exactly is buying shorts in such high volume for GME

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 3 03:12:30 2020 No.23002784 >>23002660 I thought you worked from home... >>23002629 didn't vix just go up by like 10% ?

BagholderExtraordinaire !kDjFcJuZkQ Sat Oct 3 03:12:56 2020 No.23002788

>>23002561
i think the newest set is kinda lame, but this is what happens this time during set rotation everry year, people are too focused on old shit and not craftiing new... i've been blowing people up with U/B mill in standard. it's like im not counting win's losses and tracking it as competitively as I could, but i'm 100% winning like 65% pay half attention using miill as my win condition.... i get over run by mid range, the aggro decks i can stop, and the control decks fold.. it's been fun with the new cards... i have no clue what the product is. don't even care, i don't want to own any more cardboard. i have boxes, they look like 1 yard by 1 yard pizza boxes... they'rre full of just commons uncommons lands..... shit a ton of them aren't even modern legal... it's bullshit when tempest and the urza's cycle really defined magic to me. game has come a long way, but before planeswakers came to the frey, my two favorite cards all time were standstill and force of will. force of will is probably #1, and timewalk was #2, actually Library of Alexanrdia... wait... no wrong land. That's a good land. No the urza's one Tolarain Academy.. tap for blue mana for as many artifacts you have... i used to use candalabra of tanos or what ever from the anvil set, antiquities? to untap it.... shitt those candalabras were really good with the mishra's factory, not the man-land that was reprinted, but the tap for 3 to spend on artifacts. fuck... i used to play a shit ton of smokestacks, artifact control... jester's cap to grab your win conditions... fuck man ii hate how the game is constantly evolving... the ban list just grows... i just play the standard now

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 3 03:13:36 2020 No.23002797 >>23002462 Do prices usually go up on dividend day from people looking to cash in on that?

>>	BagholderExtraordinaire !kDjFcJuZkQ Sat Oct 3 03:14:21 2020 No.23002806 >>23002784 uhh... i have employees and my company has paid off the mortgage of its building... i've created a monster.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 3 03:15:03 2020 No.23002812 >>23002737 I think I wish I knew your secret :C

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 3 03:17:23 2020 No.23002832 >>23002812 My uncle works at Ameritrade so he hooked me up with a nice order fill at no $0.00 i just texted him to do it lmao

Anonymous Sat Oct 3 03:18:54 2020 No.23002845
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>>23002772
>everyone
biz, reddit and other online retards represent a pretty small % of the market. My understanding is it's institutional investors mainly the ones buying shorts
But it's not hard to imagine why people are shorting a company that appeared to be on the verge of bankruptcy not too long ago and now has seen a 123% increase in share price since july.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 3 03:19:48 2020 No.23002853 >>23002284 >second wave meme lol. in case you havent been watching the news with thousands of biden voters protesting and looting in the cities, nobody cares about the virus anymore except lonely old boomers glued to their MSDNC shill channel

BagholderExtraordinaire !kDjFcJuZkQ Sat Oct 3 03:20:46 2020 No.23002860

magic the gather has always been competitive... i don't ever think in terms of what's best, you really have to understand your opponent's strategy. the game is super deep. That's why i've been enjoying the draft mode from arena.. I just get to play for close to free. It's quick easy, and well i did dump all my hasbro stock at their top..... Thanks SMG

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 3 03:21:56 2020 No.23002866 >>23002845 so about 50% of outstanding shares need to be shorts for a squeeze to happen?

>>	BagholderExtraordinaire !kDjFcJuZkQ Sat Oct 3 03:23:55 2020 No.23002880 holy shit i just looked again, i got out at $114 and wow... i probably sent another $200 bucks back to the company, but i did sell the fucking top.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 3 03:25:36 2020 No.23002889 >>23002390 damn dude you missed out on a once in a lifetime event of like 3 months of literally guaranteed 2x money

Anonymous Sat Oct 3 03:28:13 2020 No.23002903

>>23002797
Not really. Price may dip relative to the dividend amount on ex dividend date though. However if there is some news or other thing going on at the time, the dividend is going to be far down the list of things determining price action for the day.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 3 03:29:22 2020 No.23002909 >>23002866 I'm not the anon who is always talking about a GME short squeeze, just explaining why in the online echo chamber is seems like 'everyone' is long when that might now be the case. I don't hold any GME share or options.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 3 03:30:21 2020 No.23002917 >>23002903 How the hell does an analyst determine the day or [insert timeframe] market value aside from Mass broadcasted newsfeeds that tell literally everyone what's going on? Or for smaller companies for that matter that don't get news broadcasts.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 3 03:32:25 2020 No.23002945 I think I had a RH notification about getting divs each night this past week it's been wild

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 3 03:33:18 2020 No.23002948 >>23002909 What do you think of the idea that some of the institutional investors could be shorting just to hedge while also getting into long positions?

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 3 03:33:37 2020 No.23002950 >>23000077 Affirmative action but for fags.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 3 03:34:04 2020 No.23002956 >>23002832 this is a joke btw ameritrade amerisharted >>23002909 okay thanks for your explanation bro. im investing me and five of my friends' money at a homeless shelter and i need to know if my GME calls will help us get out of this rut

BagholderExtraordinaire !kDjFcJuZkQ Sat Oct 3 03:36:20 2020 No.23002973

>>23002909
look i grabbed a few 100% percent gains from that ticker... if I had bought the $5 leaps instead of just taking a 40 cent gap up, yeah i'd have made more money.. Thiis thread is for cutthroats, and the more exuberant people are about a particular investment vehicle that isn't super conservative like buy SPY, sometimes you even get the asshole conservatives bitching about what's better, but my strategy has been simple. 0%NAK 0%SPY 0%FUCK YOU AIN'T BOGGEN ME and 100% Thoughts and prayers to the First Family.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 3 03:39:27 2020 No.23003004 >>23002281 i don't understand you people buying oil its like your stuck in 2010 or something... Its 2020 buy shit that people use like NIKE, PTON, DKNG etc. People gambling exercises and fashion Fellas list some more consoomer buys.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 3 03:41:33 2020 No.23003017 >>23000077 >(((white))) here's your answer

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 3 03:43:45 2020 No.23003031 File: 662 KB, 1840x3264, bag.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] No matter what they take from me, they won't take away my GME!!!!

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 3 03:45:42 2020 No.23003043 >>23000368 Tech will never recover when the bubble really pops on this bear market.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 3 03:45:44 2020 No.23003045 >>23003031 this guy must've been really fucking annoying when he was posting here with the way you guys love posting him so much

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 3 03:46:44 2020 No.23003049 File: 507 KB, 480x270, Sozvso9.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] No matter what they take from me, they won't shove a toothbrush in my urethra!!¡!

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 3 03:47:04 2020 No.23003054 >>23003050 >>23003050 >>23003050 >>23003050 >>23003050

Anonymous Sat Oct 3 03:48:47 2020 No.23003063

>>23003045
You must misunderstand, you weren't here back in 2017-2018, baggy was a complete fucking degenerate drug addict back then. He was one of the most entertaining posters. He's a cuck now and it still hurts. Crack whore sociopath anon fills the hole, but it's not the same.

Anonymous Sat Oct 3 03:48:54 2020 No.23003065

>>23002917
Hmm... I think your confusion may be about how shares trade and how price moves. The 'market price' is the most recent price shares were traded at. There are two columns of orders; the buy side (bid) and the sell side (ask). The small gap between the highest bid and the lowest ask is called the spread. When you buy using a market order you are buying at whatever the lowest ask price is at that moment. When you sell with market order you are selling at highest bid price. There is a finite number of shares on offer for any given price on the bid/ask list. If you want to buy 100 shares at market but only 50 are on offer at the lowest price you buy 50 at the lowest, then you buy another 50 at the next price up. Opposite for selling. People and computers are constantly shifting orders around during the trading session. Watching level 2 (the order columns) move in real time on a high volatility stock can be... eye opening. Stuff jerks around all crazy.

This is how share price on the market moves. It's not about anyone dictating a particular price based on some kind of value metric.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 3 03:52:06 2020 No.23003081 >>23003043 Yes. Everybody will stop using computers, all workplaces will go back to 50s style office environments, we'll all log off and never use the internet again

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 3 03:52:12 2020 No.23003083 >>23002341 Out of those, Hyliion, Nio, Draftkings, SBE likely to 2x within 1 year. Have to buy the dips on those though.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 3 03:54:07 2020 No.23003099 >>23003081 Fantastic. Computers were a mistake.

Anonymous Sat Oct 3 04:08:18 2020 No.23003231

>>23003065
It kinda does, but by going off your post alone, theoretically the market value wouldn't really increase. Where does that growth come from? Because if it was just people trading mins and maxes back and forth, theoretically the price would only increase due to inflation. What incentives exist to encourage people to invest long term? Do they only do it because it's on their mind? Is it because they think the company will do well and dividends or other non-trading shenanigans will be profitable? If it's JUST that then that opens a whole fucking can of worms about the ethics of advertising in news in yet another department.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 3 04:27:15 2020 No.23003378 >>23000385 lol, even looking at fundamentals.

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