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What the fuck do i do as a late 20s guy nearing his 30s with no skills, connections or experience beyond working retail. How do i escape and get a better job? Is it over?

>> No.22885244

>>22885159
Shut your fucking mouth you fucking weirdo.

>> No.22885354

it is...
>checks notes
over. yes. sorry, anon.

>> No.22885360

>>22885159
do you have money? are you above 120 IQ? go back to school. get a certification or a degree that is useful (IE not fucking social studies)

>> No.22885375

What have you been doing the last 15 years? Honestly just kill yourself

>> No.22885436

>>22885159
*looks at you with a tired, disgruntled expression*
>...
*sighs and turns to my computer screen, before looking back at you*

computer says yes

>> No.22885458

>>22885360
No, i don't have any money. Well i have some minimal savings but nothing substantial

>>22885375
I was planing to go to uni when i left school but i've been living at home caring for my mother so i've mostly only been working part time as well. My mother recently died and now i'm stuck.

>> No.22885499

>>22885375
I was playing video games and watching anime.
I'll be 30 next year and I only worked part time jobs. I'm starting to get a little worried.

>> No.22885536

>>22885458
You're going to just have to take out loans man. However, if you are low income do your research and you can get a metric shit ton of gibbs scholarships and get it all paid for if you are smart. Or join the army
>>22885499
jesus dude. stop. get ahold of yourself and get it together white man. i'm not saying to become a wage cuck but come on

>> No.22885654

>>22885159
Servant slave class. Know your place goyim

>> No.22885770

>>22885654
I mean that's 99% of wagies, i just want to go up the rung a bit mr. shekelberg...

>> No.22885779

>>22885159
Apply for financial aid, go to community college to get a technical degree, get a job somewhere. In the meanwhile you can try call centers, call centers are always hiring because the turn over is so high but if you do good you can move up from agent and have an easier time there. Pay varies but you can find call centers jobs that pay you 14 an hour and once you get out of agent positions you can expect about a 2 - 4 dollar increase. Also look for data entry jobs in your area, those are easy as hell, you just sit down and type all day. Apply for all kinds of entry level office jobs you find on indeed, just try man.

>> No.22886633

>>22885159
buy kneepads

>> No.22886651

>>22885159
Start a biz, register as a DBA and just get to work. Learn how it's done, start of power washing and doing odd jobs until something sticks or you get that wow this is my calling feeling. It takes time and but it's easier than one thinks

>> No.22887605

>>22885159
Let's be honest, this probably describes at least 60% of faggots here. Maybe 80%.

>> No.22887751

>>22885159
invest in crypto.

>> No.22887783

>>22885458
I'm sorry for your loss anon, how old was she?

>> No.22887817

>>22885159
Your time would be better spent reading about how things work, why they work that way, how they're built, why they're built that way, what they're built with, why those materials are used.

How does your car work? Why does it work that way? How is a car built? Why is it built that way? What is your car made out of? Why is it made with those materials?

How does your computer work? Why does it work that way? How is a computer built? Why is it built that way? What is a computer made out of? Why is it made out of those materials?

Then you can answer the most important question of how to insert yourself into this process.

>> No.22887818

It I had no skills, I'd probably try out for a delivery driver type job. I love driving

>> No.22887849
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>>22885159

>> No.22887855

>>22885159
Get into the trades. Work hard and sacrifice. Look for a small business where you can be a vital member. Get close with the owner and let him know you’re willing to sacrifice if there is a cut in it in the end. Business owners love that shit and it’s true what they say when the tides rise so do the boats. I’m a small business owner myself and if anyone actually truly put in hard work I wouldn’t care what experience they had because I can train them. Seriously anon look for a small business owner In the trades, preferable one that aims to grow to multiple locations one day.

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22887859

there is only one escape if you have wasted your 20s

>> No.22887862

Unironically volunteer while learning everything you can about networking and how to leverage your skills. You probably have more skills than you think, it's just self-awareness and marketing a lot of the time.

>> No.22887893

>>22885159
research chainlink

>> No.22887911

>>22885458

take all your money and throw it into LINK. you already fucked yourself by taking care of your family.

>> No.22887949

>>22885159
$1000 into COVAL = 100k
Wait till it hits $2-3.
Sell and be comfy for a few years.. then idk.
I'm not that far from your position but thats my play at least.

>> No.22887968

>>22887783
56 unfortunately, she has been ill for a long time

>> No.22887974

>>22885159
Unironically join the military it's literally made for people in your situation

>> No.22888036

>>22887818
Driving itself is nice, but driving mostly sucks because of having to deal with traffic, all the retards on the roads ect. Night drives are comfy though.

>> No.22888054

>>22885159
Honestly dude you could join the military or get a job in construction. Construction companies will take anyone as general laborers. Especially dudes without mile long rap sheets (and usually even them too.) I was in your shoes and I got a job working in asphalt and now I earn a decent middle class income.

>> No.22888142

>>22888054
Addendum to this post tho, it is hard, hot, dangerous work but it the reward of working with all men is really understated. Since you're a retail wagie I'm sure you're constantly surrounded by women and weak men. Go work construction and you will surround yourself with hardworking, honest, manly men.

>> No.22888148

>>22885159
I'm not sure. I'm younger than you and I fear this is my future, but at the same time it feels like the world is unironically ending too for various reasons.

>> No.22888186

unironically learn to code but then you will have to send hundreds of applications and emails begging to be hired. but it should work out

>> No.22888188

>>22885159
What did you spend the last 5 years doing?
Think about anything that you think would be a good skill, and I guarantee that if you set enough time aside, you can learn it.

>> No.22888203

>>22887974
>>22888054
>>22888142
I'm not in the US and i don't think the army is as much of a lucrative option here. Plus being a grunt at my age would suck (although i know i'm in a beggar position here and can't be much of a chooser). Might have considered it if i could enter as an officer but you need a degree for that i believe.

>> No.22888263

>>22885159
unironically open a food stand

>> No.22888340
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>>22888203
Way to ignore the rest of my post. It's a hard truth to swallow but you need to humble yourself. You will not walk into anything other than a grunt job. Embrace it and toughen up. If you cant join the army do what I said. Go work in Blacktop. I'm sure whatever Eurofag country you're from has roads, and Blacktop is always looking for people because the work is hard. Plus, this time of year is the slow season so they don't mind taking time to train new guys. Or, you could go work in wastewater treatment.

>> No.22888381

>>22887911
I have a 1k linklet stack i bought a few years ago, i don't have anymore money to put in

>> No.22888417

>>22888381
youve made it already

>> No.22888459
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22888459

>>22885458
sorry for your loss anon.
Best bet would be a coding bootcamp in my opinion. If you're not completely dumb this could work well for you. This is how it went for me:


>fell for the do what you love so you never have to work again meme
>Went to Uni, 3.5 years for a bachelor in Digital Design
>Work a shit job as a "graphic designer"
>ended up hating every second of my live because the job was shit, the pay was shit, and every skill I had wasn' recognized by anyone
>save up 15k€ in 2 years of shitjob
>quit
>start 6 Month Coding bootcamp for 10k
>actually learn the bascs of coding there, it's actually fucking fun
>instantly got a job after bootcamp that pays DOUBLE of the shit I had t study 3.5 years for because the jobworld has more empty entry programmer position than I could have ever imagined

The learn to code meme is real anon but you need some money and time if you want to do it like I did.
If you're smarter than me (not unlikely) you could actually learn coding yourself with YouTube /Udemy and shit but getting a job without some fancy paper proving you did basic academia could be a problem, i don't know.
good luck brother

>> No.22888667

>>22888340
You make a fair point and i'm not delusional to my situation, but generic general laborer jobs i've seen just seem much harder work than i already do but for pretty much the same wage as i get for working retail. I'm not afraid of hard work, but i'm not working harder for the same pay.

>>22888459
I've always heard mixed things about code camps, but thank you anon i will look into it more. I'm a pretty dumb guy though so i don't know how well i will pick it up.

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>>22885159
Similar position, but my body is kinda fucked because of some genetic disorder. Theres precedent that I may not be able to walk unassisted by my mid 40s depending on progression, but its diffrent for everyone so who's to say.
I'm currently trying to work my way up in the retail world, I applied for AP in the place I work for now. Starting pay would be more than I've ever made /hr, but only barely livable by modern standards. Should I even bother trying construction or whatever? They wouldnt take me into the military for like 4 other reasons. Code? The worst IQ score I ever got was 115 and I was dead tired and stressed to fuck.

>> No.22889256
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>>22888459
>The learn to code meme is real

>> No.22889307
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22889307

>>22885159
it is over. now for the remaining 60 years of your life just watch porn and coom

>> No.22889357

>>22885159
become a dishwasher for 10 dollars an hour.
after a year see if you can become a waiter.
when you're a waiter sign up for a trade school, o something like HVAC or something, one of those trades without *too* much manual labor and a decent salary cap. It's p much the best way to pivot with no outside support.

>> No.22889507

>>22887817
This is retarded

>> No.22889637

>>22889256
I sometimes wonder whether this is the result of real job scarcity/inflated supply of coders,
or if coders just lack the social skills to land a job.
How may people without a CS degree pick up CS jobs purely because they have a chad personality and basic skills in Python or Java?

>> No.22889779

>>22885159
buy chainlink, idiot

>> No.22889810

>>22889779
see >>22888381

>> No.22889835

>>22889779
this, I'm late 20s and I hold 10k stinkies and thats all I have going for me

>> No.22889876

>>22889835
Then read the Bible and go to church

>> No.22889949

>>22889876
No, just read the bible. Churches have mostly been infiltrated by disgusting jews and their simpathizers.

>> No.22889953

>>22885159
Go to trade school and invest in bitcoin.

>> No.22890847

>>22885159
Military and church, you'll receive training, support, and build a social group.

>> No.22890865

I live in a Van. It is true freedom Anon. Girls are shocked when I bring them over to my place... which is anywhere I park, but after a lot of crying and self-loathing.. they are ok with it. They never call back, but sympathy fucks are all I have to play with. It's not ideal, but its a life.

>> No.22890927

>>22889876
not sure how the bible will put me ahead of my peers that have 8years working experience on me

>> No.22891729

>>22885159

Whatever you do, don't just resort to the cliché "learning to code" train.

>> No.22891774

>>22885499

A little??

>> No.22891854

>>22887862

You're one of those hardcore "fake until you make it" types aren't you?

>> No.22891889

>>22888148

If the world is ending, just say fuck it and do shit anyway.

>> No.22891981

>>22888785

Consider your disabilities I would unironically check out coding.

>> No.22892017

>>22889637

It's more of A compared to B IMO.

>> No.22892033

I have a similar situation to OP.

How do you know what you want to do? There's a cert that my degree enablea me to go for but i dont know if I'll hate it.

Also what do you do if you're soft and lazy? How do you make yourself life's bitch no longer? I think i wont last another 2 years before i put a gun in my mouth

Also is LINK a meme or ahould i buy 70 link with 1000 CAD

>> No.22892068

>>22888459
What were you learning at your boot camp, web development?

>> No.22892120

>>22887859
Yea I kinda feel like this, atleast I saved up a little

>> No.22892772
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22892772

Guys I'm a friendless 18 year old who just jerks off all day and i think I'm too stupid and lazy to graduate college or have a job. What should I do? im thinking of just killing myself or being homeless in a foreign country or something. could the military save me?

>> No.22893238

>>22892772
You should literally stop all the stupid bulkshit that drains yiur life force in a very real way, like porn
Then aim to be useful for an employer

>> No.22893467

Similar situation OP

>> No.22893539

>>22889507
How does your mind work? How does a wall work? How does milk work?

>> No.22893565

>>22885458
Maybe get an lvn or rn degree? You have experience caring for sick people and something to write about in your "why be a nurse" app essay/interview.

>> No.22893609

university -> computer science -> jerb

or just self study if you're smart and motivated but you'd need to crank out side projects like crazy to pull it off

>> No.22894217

>>22890927
God will give you the knowlege you need.

>> No.22894253

Please tell me you at least got a > 1000 stack of link with your wagie savings OP

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22894355

>>22889256

This chart reminded me about why I'm getting my EE degree. I love you.

>> No.22894509

>>22885159
Learn QA in a online course. Get hired in any tech company.

>> No.22894626

>>22885159
I work in construction as a painter and can confirm, trades are the easiest thing to transition into without prior experience or knowledge. There is constantly growing demand for building, and the more buildings there are the more repair work there is. You will never run out of work even in a recession. You can either do the hard work route to build skills in shit no one likes doing (painting, masonry, steel working, plumbing, general labor) which you leverage later on subcontracts and side work (where the real money is made). Or, you go through some courses to get certified in electrical, HVAC, elevator, etc. and find a company that will take you on as an apprentice. You can make a shit ton of money in HVAC and elevator work.

>> No.22894653

Sup Op, I got back into college at 28, im 33 now and im about to graduate with a bachelors in accounting. I feel so happy that i can finally escape the retail bubble ive been stuck in all my life. I also go super healthy in the mean time. Do something

>> No.22894675

>>22885159
buy chainlink. Im not joking. im 33 and this peice of shit token is the only thing giving me a shot at not living in a cardboard box

>> No.22894697

>>22885159
why do you want to get out bro, just masturbate it's the best feeling in the world nothing comes close anyway, maybe heroin

>> No.22894717

>>22894675
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DMonlRsJ5hY

>> No.22894732

>>22894626

This, and honestly, if you're not tied down, move somewhere nice and beautiful and start putting down roots in a community.

You could just move up to a small town in Maine or something and start going to church and getting to know people and become part of the fabric of a small town. It would be a quiet life but you can find purpose anywhere.

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>>22894717

>> No.22894776

>>22894675
>>22894732
this but RSR is my bet.

>> No.22894802
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>>22885159
Anon...there is time .. but it’s up to you.

>> No.22894831

>>22892772
quit porn m8 you have infinite potential at 18

>> No.22894939

>>22894217
kill yourself faggot

>> No.22895084

>>22889256

>education is the lowest
>its ALL WOMEN

I fucking hate the goddamn world.

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>>22894717

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>>22894831
Porn, Alcohol and drugs can cuck you badly.

>> No.22895649

>>22889876
>the bible
yeah read the scribblings of a bunch of niggers who knew nothing about the world and base your modern life on it right

fuck yourself, learn to live with yourself you coping faggot

>> No.22895655

>>22885159
>>22887855
>>22889357
this is the correct answer

>> No.22895788
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22895788

>>22885159

Accumulate more Bitcoin.

>> No.22896116

why do people let their lives slip away like this? like did you not see everyone else moving on with their lives while you sat working a dead end retail job? you deserve to struggle now for the laziness and lack of drive you had in your early 20s. it was from you decisions that you made that you are where you are now. good luck anon you're best shot is to dump whatever saving you have into a moonshot. your life is basically over until then

>> No.22896406

>>22889256
Might be the case for the US, i don't know about that anon. I'm from germany and we import people from all other EU countries because we don't have enough IT guys, not joking.

>>22892068
yes, web development.
I'm now in a small company coding haskell which is difficult as shit but I'm earning even more thaj I did doing basic java stuff straight out of bootcamp. Everyone knows I'm a starter and I'm lacking in many many areas but thats not a problem here. Learn and do, it works out.

>> No.22896692

>>22888381
Borrow money fag. Buy more. Get rich. Repeat.

>> No.22896877

>>22894776
same fren. And i dont even hold that much. I just need 5 or 6 figures and im good

>> No.22897418

>>22885458
Get a certification and/or an entry-level job in water treatment. My friend did this at age 25 and is now in a manager-type role at 32. He started as a NEET living at home. He’s high IQ though

>> No.22897522

>>22889256
The average person who does a CS degree literally, unironically doesn’t learn to code. Grade inflation, participation credits, exam question reuse, plagiarism and teacher handholding mean you can get to the end of a CS course without knowing what a while loop is. I am not exaggerating.

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>>22885159
>>22885458
Let me guess, your parents had you really late and gave birth to an autistic retard.

>> No.22897706

>>22885536
How would any of that shit benefit him?

>> No.22897744

>>22885458
Community college. Find something that works for you bro, with good job prospects. You can smash thru an associates in no time in like 1.5 years, or some certificate in less. Good luck.

>> No.22897782

>>22894831
>you have infinite potential at 18 :^)
And here you are wasting your life on 4chan.

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>>22897744
How would that help him?

>> No.22897857

You've got two options
>Become a sysadmin
Go to school at a college for 2 years or get certs and teach yourself
Very good if you're half decent at computers as most of the job is trouble shooting/googling. Not good if you aren't fond of sitting all day
>Become a tradesman
Welding or machining is good. Lotta my pals that didn't go to uni ended up welders and they are far better off than the avg uni liberal arts grad. Go to college do the minimum education, get certified, find a shop and start at the bottom. After 2 years you can clear 60-80k a year at least.

>> No.22897897

>>22897857
How come that bullshit didn't work for you?

>> No.22897936

>>22889637
>information science
probably because they're lumping MIS with CS.
But if that's not the case I'd say its like you said. lack of social skills but also idiots that thought the degree would get them a job but can't answer simple questions in an interview.

>> No.22897994

>>22897897
I did a computer engineering degree and make 200k TC as a cloud architect. I'm not going to suggest the OP to do that as his situation is different.

>> No.22898025

>>22897994
>source: just trust me bro

>> No.22898055

>>22897857
This is actually really good advice. One issue is that everybody that can Google started getting the really cushy sysadmin jobs at all the little companies that needed an "it guy" and those are really drying up. You actually need to know some server speak or powershell to get sysadmin at bigger orgs with large IT depts. The welding advice is spot on though, literally 80k for low IQ alcoholics just waiting for applicants. Also look into cad cam, easy as shit once you get the hang of it

>> No.22898080

>>22885159
How smart are you from 1-10? Many successful people lived similar life's to yours and then they got an idea and succeeded. Humans are group animals but we're also dumber in groups this is known as (mob psychology) when you make a business you should do that on your own not with anybody. What I'm trying to say is you shouldn't see lack of connections and education as a death sentence also don't ask on 4chan you'll get depressed