European vs American salaries

[Anonymous No.22824466]

We europoors like to talk a lot of shit about America, many times it's justified, but I think when it comes to salaries the joke is on us. I've seen that 90k$ can be easily achieved in America even without education, while an educated, intelligent person can earn 200k +. In Europe, on the other hand, the starting salary is around 30k$ medium in 50k$ and it's really hard to get a job that pays over 100k. This is western Europe, its 1.5-4 times less in central and east. Am I wrong Americabros? How hard is it to get a job that pays in the high 5 figures and what qualification do you need for that job?

[Anonymous No.22824514]

No lol.

Masters degree 42k out of school in a tech field. Changed jobs many times to get to the high 5 figure range

[Anonymous No.22824576]

>>22824466
I’m not sure. Everything about Europe’s laws i like better but we have legal weed here. Everyone in Europe seems like a really uptight ass hole. The weather is garbage and USA has every type of climate in the world.

USA has infinitely better culture but there’s too much degenerate shit.

I want to leave America for either Europe or Asia but I refuse to live without but god damn it this place sucks. I Also heard euros pay like 55% in tax.

[Anonymous No.22824625]

>>22824576
>USA has infinitely better culture but there’s too much degenerate shit.
>kek
A European garbage can has more history that your entire country what the fuck are you talking about lmao
>Also heard euros pay like 55% in tax.
35-60 in west and north, yes. It's horrible. We got much better social safety net than us tho.

[Anonymous No.22824655]

>>22824514
First job? Tech usually pays a lot higher.

[Anonymous No.22824978]

Top pay for a package car driver at UPS in my district will be just over $40/hr at the end of the current contract. I think it's a little over $38 now. I work a lot of 55+ hour weeks. Money is good, but it comes at the expense of your life. Eventually you get a ton of time off I guess that helps. I only get 3 weeks right now.

[Anonymous No.22825051]

>>22824466
>How hard is it to get a job that pays in the high 5 figures and what qualification do you need for that job?
The problem with trying to answer that question with any degree of certainty is the US economy is several degrees of magnitude larger and more diverse that any national or even regional economy in Europe. You would have to be more specific.
>A European garbage can has more history that your entire country what the fuck are you talking about lmao
We've existed for a fraction of the time as you and yet we've arguably accomplished as much, if not more, than the rest of you combined in that time.
We certainly matter more than you as far that influence on the overall direction of global affairs is concerned and we will continue to do so for a while.
Don't get so uppity Euro-fren.

[Anonymous No.22825149]

>>22824625
Nobody gives a shit about history

Europe is irrelevant in pop culture

Getting some italian gucci bullshit mentioned on an AMERICAN rap video is the most relevant europe gets

[Anonymous No.22825170]

>>22825051
>We certainly matter more than you
No you don't. Just because some billionaires have an address of registration in the US doesn't mean your country is great.

[Anonymous No.22825197]

>>22825149
Keep living in your dreamland but don't make this thread about eu vs America. This is about salaries. If you are too young to contribute gtfo.

[Anonymous No.22825200]

>>22824655
not all tech is in computers or engineering. Biotech is paid much worse than sister tech departments

[Anonymous No.22825244]

>>22825197
This is about eu being trash

[Anonymous No.22825278]

>>22825200
Is this your first job?
>>22824978
>over $40/hr
Jesus fuck. It's 12$ for deliveries in eu.

[Anonymous No.22825279]

you can work at an Amazon warehouse 40 hours a week and earn $35k a year

[Anonymous No.22825311]

>>22825170
>Just because some billionaires have an address of registration in the US doesn't mean your country is great.
Not at all what I said or implied, but I'll give you a pass because English clearly isn't your first language. For someone claiming they aren't interested in having a USA vs EU pissing contest you sure are throwing around a lot of piss.
As I said before, rephrase your question with more specificity and we will try to answer it.

[Anonymous No.22825466]

>>22825279
That is around 20k in west Europe.
>>22825311
>but I'll give you a pass because English clearly isn't your first language.
no need mate, it's my 4th language and I'm still speaking it better than any American I know. You not getting my question confirms it. This thread is about salaries and i'm only trying not to make it an irrelevant eu vs us pissing contest (you don't matter, no YOU don't matter type shit), My question is pretty clear it about minimum/medium salaries and since I've heard a lot of American making over 90$ a year I asked how hard it is to get a job. You're probably too young to answer my question.

[Anonymous No.22825495]

>>22825466
>I asked how hard it is to get a job.
that kind of a job**

[Anonymous No.22825506]

>>22825466
Your english is garbage

Prolly why your salary is so low

[Anonymous No.22825511]

>>22824576
>I’m not sure. Everything about Europe’s laws i like better but we have legal weed here. Everyone in Europe seems like a really uptight ass hole. The weather is garbage and USA has every type of climate in the world.
>USA has infinitely better culture but there’s too much degenerate shit.
Weed is degenerate and is a gateway to degeneracy.

[Anonymous No.22825545]

>>22825278
Yes that was my first job. But i know people who were complacent and my age making about that still. I only got closer to double range by switching jobs many times

[Anonymous No.22825555]

>>22825506
Don't waste your time here, this board is 18+.

[Anonymous No.22825572]

>>22825511
says jews

[Anonymous No.22825588]

>>22825545
How hard is it to earn 100k+ over there? It's pretty uncommon in Europe.

[Anonymous No.22825615]

>>22825588
no one makes that except managers and post doctorates in biotech

[Anonymous No.22825633]

>>22825466
>I asked how hard it is to get a job
Let me rephrase it one more time before I give up trying to help you: WHAT KIND OF FUCKING JOB AND/OR INDUSTRY ARE YOU REFERRING TO?

[Anonymous No.22825640]

maybe if you land a job early in the company some give sick bonuses like stock options. Really only chance youd have at my level

[Anonymous No.22825646]

>>22824625
Europe is history. You all live in the past.

[Anonymous No.22825647]

>>22825615
What do you work now? You said you earn high 5 figures.

[Anonymous No.22825651]

I made $180,000 last year and had a federal income tax rate of around 3.5%.

In all honesty I think I'd rather live in Europe. I got to do the backpack thing there for a few weeks and the quality of everything seemed so much higher.

[Anonymous No.22825652]

This is the best place to make money on the planet, it’s a playground. Socialists here lost the game on literal baby mode.

[Anonymous No.22825673]

>>22825647
Same thing dude. I still just pipette samples in a lab all day until my thumb feels like falling off

[Anonymous No.22825718]

Dont mind me just popping in to say that Europe is awesome but its sad to see it cucked to the point where they don't even have the right to defend themselves and have to go through a million miles of bureaucratic redtape to own a firearm press F for our poor Euro cousins

[Anonymous No.22825746]

>>22825633
>>22825495
High paying (100k+) job. I don't jave a specific industry in mind, I asked how hard is it to earn over 100k in USA as it's pretty uncommon in Europe but I've heard a lot of people making it in America. Hope it's clear now.
>>22825651
>I made $180,000 last year and had a federal income tax rate of around 3.5%.
Trades?
>>22825652
>This is the best place to make money on the planet, it’s a playground.
Seems so. Much better than europe from what I've heard.
>>22825718
>but its sad to see it cucked to the point where they don't even have the right to defend themselves
It's really sad dude.

[Anonymous No.22825784]

>>22825466
The bottom rung in USA is lower than western europe, but the top rungs are higher. You get more for less money when it comes to food, land, and housing. Healthcare expenses can cripple the middle class and lower, but the best healthcare in the world is available to the rich.
Australia and NZ are similar except they have higher taxes (not as high as northern europe though) and free health care. You can achieve 'high 5 figures' (measured in USD) as a plumber or electrician, or even as a laborer working union jobs, particularly if willing to work on mining sites in the middle of nowhere. Junior doctors/nurses will make more money 2-5 years out of university than euro docs/nurses who are literally heads of departments.
It is not surprising that EVERY time there's a thread about this shit, it degenerates into 'muh history', 'muh culture'. Euros literally cannot comprehend how much better a person's material circumstances can be in the Anglo colonies and being confronted with it causes uncomfortable cognitive dissonance. 'Culture and history' is cold comfort when you're raising a family on 30k a year in an apartment the size of my garage KEK

[Anonymous No.22825802]

>>22824466
go in the us then, and good luck, nigger

[Anonymous No.22825812]

>>22825718
same in the USA. where are the 2A people defending rights of medical marijuana patients to own a gun?

[Anonymous No.22825834]

>>22824466
The pros of Europe are that the large social security net means you won't starve. Japan and the other developed parts of East Asia (including coastal Chinese cities like Shanghai) are also like this. The con in all these developed, socialized economies is that your tax burden is much higher to cover the costs of the safety net.

In the USA if you are working a mcjob but don't qualify for free healthcare you're not going to be making enough money to pay for a good healthcare plan while missing out on the Euro-style gibs that go to poorfags.

But if you make above 40k a year, usually those types of jobs tend to also have what we call "benefits". In the USA many people don't care about "universal health insurance" because we get benefits such as "corporate-covered health insurance" alongside our normal salaries. Basically when Europeans post "steve stubbed his toe and got billed 1 million dollars for a checkup" those are very isolated cases- most people are covered by medicare/medicaid if they are old/poor or are covered by their job.

Obamacare was to cover the other 10% of people with shitty health insurance, but costs have continued to increase because the big elephant in the room is that American pharmaceuticals don't enforce copyright violations against countries like Canada or Brazil for taking copyrighted American drugs and making their own off-brand versions- they merely increase the cost that they charge Americans instead of trying to make foreigners pay up.

Also hospital admins are bloated.

>>22824978
>>22825278
Working as a personal vehicle delivery driver during the november-january period for UPS you can easily make 50/hr when people give you tips. 33/hr is just for 40 hours a week. Take a second job doing something else on the weekend and you can easily bump you money up to like 24000 during that holiday period. No social security tax this year because of Trump, so you keep about 90%~ of it.

[Anonymous No.22825930]

>>22825834
I also don't mean to say America or Europe are superior to the other- we face many similar problems such as mass immigration causing skyrocketing housing costs in major metro areas forcing people to put off having kids while they try to secure stable employment, while over-education has diluted the value of a bachelor's degree.

I think though characterizing the American healthcare system in particular as failing is because Europeans are unfamiliar with the idea that it used to be the norm for every job to cover health insurance, it was only in recent years that companies took advantage of ignorant mexican illegals to start slashing benefits wherever they could in unskilled work.

>>22825812
Those are mostly libertarians. For the most part restricting liberty in the cases of druggies is because people don't want to get shot by someone who is paranoid the cops are coming for them.

[Anonymous No.22825968]

>>22825930
Imagine being this cucked. Ok brethren if you want to prejudge my kind as unworthy of constitutional rights due to my medicine choice i will remember that.

[Anonymous No.22825978]

>>22825149
>pop culture is what you want to strive for
Lol This is why America is burning
>>22825646
1 hour ago is history. So if we are history we are literally always relevant. Someone skipped second grade and forgot how time works lol, Americans.

[Anonymous No.22825991]

Calling me a druggie when i just disclosed my job and do no drugs. I dont even drink.
What a fucking cuck

[Anonymous No.22826013]

>>22825784
>raising a family on 30k a year in an apartment the size of my garage
Those apartments are more common in us kek.
>>22825978
My man.

[Anonymous No.22826044]

>>22825968
>I WILL FUCKING KILL YOU IF YOU DON'T LET ME HAVE GUNS AND DRUGS

You are making it very easy to justify not letting you have guns.

>>22825991
>unironically seething

[Anonymous No.22826072]

i made 94k/yr+ 50% bonus and full benefits in construction while studying programming. now i make 185k. not hard imo. im 24

[Anonymous No.22826083]

>>22825746
>Trades?
I own a consulting company. My income this year will be shit due to COVID.

The new tax laws plus the fact I have kids dropped my taxes big time. I used to not qualify for the full child tax credit and now I do.

[Anonymous No.22826097]

>>22824466
Not sure if i can agree with this fren.

Yes US salaries might be higher but zero security 1 week notice periods, no 30 day paid holidays (which is norm in EU countries)

I live in UK and earn 100k in USD(80k in ££ pa) as base working from home as software engineer.
Lot of benefits and bonuses if actually i finish something ontime.

[Anonymous No.22826098]

>>22825978
Pop culture is soft power

So yeah, its what you want to strive for

[Anonymous No.22826152]

>>22826044
I will remember you taking my rights and treating me like cattle. I assume youre a jew

[Anonymous No.22826167]

i dont hate the jew. I just hate their ways

[Anonymous No.22826185]

>>22826044
>You are making it very easy to justify not letting you have guns.
What part of "Shall not be infringed" doesn't make sense to you?

[Anonymous No.22826196]

>>22826044
Btw never did i threaten violence. This is what your people do. Lie

[Anonymous No.22826213]

>>22826097
If you earn 80k in UK you are very lucky imo. They require 2-3 years of experience even for graduate entry jobs paying 20k. The average salary is around 30k.

[Anonymous No.22826217]

>>22824625
Based, fuck America

t. American

[Anonymous No.22826249]

Euro is valued higher than dollar retard. That 50k in EUR is 90k USD

[Anonymous No.22826281]

>>22826249
>That 50k in EUR is 90k USD
>kek
You're probably American so you get a pass on that one.

[Anonymous No.22826290]

>>22826249
Uh no.
>>22826217
I can live with the fact America is a failing nation, but I can't stand a the retards who keep saying this is the best country on earth. It's objectively not.

[Anonymous No.22826301]

>>22826098
Yeah dude you’ve already made that clear in the post i replied to first.
>its
Lol

[Anonymous No.22826324]

>>22826290
>It's objectively not.
I agree. it's good for making money tho.

[Anonymous No.22826368]

>>22826324
Yeah, that it is. I'm just tired of seeing so many fat fucks, mulattos, mouth breathers, illiterates, Jeeeeezus freaks, etc.

Everything here is designed and built to be as cheap as possible and it shows.

[Anonymous No.22826381]

lmao stay mad europoors

[Anonymous No.22826414]

>>22824466
Cost of living in America is higher I'm pretty sure. Healthcare is an obvious one, and I doubt anyone will give us a non pozzed system so it'll remain expensive, housing in big cities is fucking awful snd expensive, tuition is also higher every year by quite a bit, et cetera.

[Anonymous No.22826460]

>>22824514
Sound like a rural poorfag. IT or actual coding? Before covid big financial firms with boring work were desperate for codemonkeys, 60k-80k for anyone who can do basic full stack work at entry level.

America is good if you are a high quality wageslave or an entrepreneur. Anything else sucks. My brother has mental issues and now that he's over 26 with a min wage job he is truly fucked. If he was in Europe he would be fine.

America also has way more land better nature.

[Anonymous No.22826488]

>>22826460
I live in one of the most expensive cities on earth

[Anonymous No.22826504]

>>22826460
neither. Biotech. Same level degree for half the pay

[Anonymous No.22826511]

>>22826460
>better nature
It really doesn't. Have you been to Europe?

[Anonymous No.22826513]

>>22825746
It is hard work if you are mediocre like me. If you are smart and practical you can be a good programmer easily. My TC is 190k. I work long hours (60ish) and focus on my career since I'm trying to retire/coast at 35.

[Anonymous No.22826535]

>>22826504
Yeah idk why you would go into desu. You got bad advice.

[Anonymous No.22826564]

>>22826513
>My TC is 190k.
After taxes?

[Anonymous No.22826615]

>>22826511
I've been to Norway, Iceland, Ireland, Italy, Switzerland. Iceland/Norway/Switzerland were the only places that were fantastic, and I like PNW and the Alaska panhandle more than those places. America has more dramatic nature, and it's better preserved since it is a younger country. Europe's cities are a lot better though. Driving in cities is stupid, and that's like 99% of american cities.

[Anonymous No.22826657]

Being a software engineer here feels like I broke the game. It makes me nervous, like my world is going to fall apart any moment. Not hard work at all, great pay, opportunities everywhere, all this cost was some tough days in college and that was it.

[Anonymous No.22826684]

>>22826381
>not maxing out your 401k
You're the poor one

[Anonymous No.22826708]

>>22826564
Before. My total income tax rate was about 35% last year I think, so about 120 take home. I think I saved about 90-110k in income/bonus/stock last year since I live with my parents/brother/gf.

[Anonymous No.22826764]

>>22826535
mostly due to food allergies i wouldn't take a desk job. Now later in life i know what food to avoid and would love to switch. At the time it was fine.

[Anonymous No.22826778]

I maks $50k/year with a verifiable meme job. The difference is for my taxes I get literally nothing in return.

[Anonymous No.22826820]

>>22826764
Yeah you can transition into other corporate shit if you know how to shmooze or bust your ass. One my college friends did poverty chem engineering work for two years and is an HR manager now making a lot of money.

[Anonymous No.22826846]

>>22826820
thats the plan. My degree is actually in regulatory, which is not the lab rat job, but got me the lab rat job.

[Anonymous No.22826847]

I left the EU for the USA a decade ago.
best decision I ever made.
Super friendly people, nice women.
I still love the EU, but my kids will love America.

[Anonymous No.22826940]

>>22826846
Nice good luck bro, hope you make it

[Anonymous No.22826976]

God are literally all of you early 20s software engineers making north of 100k?

[Anonymous No.22827027]

>>22826976
25 but yeah

[Anonymous No.22827133]

>>22827027
Where do you live?

[Anonymous No.22827141]

>>22825834
>when people give you tips
i'm supposed to tip ups drivers? I always hide and pretend im not home so i don't have to talk to people.

[Anonymous No.22827144]

>>22826976
Wouldn't be surprised, people who got into crypto early were programming geeks not run of the mill investors

[Anonymous No.22827999]

>>22827133
nyc suburb

[Anonymous No.22829267]

>>22825834
This is the most accurate depiction of our system. The only issue is most here lack any kind of enlightened self interest or compassion and only give up their lives for money. The system would work great if people really a tually gave a shit about morality and justice for all.

[Anonymous No.22829879]

Never understood why someone doing such retarded job as "muh driving ups van" can earn more then $15 an hour.

Care to explain ?

[Anonymous No.22830752]

>>22824466
how do you like that end stage capitalism anon?

[Anonymous No.22830847]

>>22826976
>God are literally all of you early 20s software engineers making north of 100k?
170k remote. started in 2016

This week I made a button that did an API call, took some naps, browsed the internet, read rpg lore books. People in my network make up a significant amount of the organization. We have 2 managers and more than 6 individual engineers that I have either worked with in the past or are mutual friends of those I've worked with in the past.

[Anonymous No.22831034]

>>22826368
So, are you saying, death to america?

[Anonymous No.22831041]

>print trillions of dollars just in one quarter brrrrr
>wow they are so rich
just wait until the world tells burgers shove their meme dollars where the sun doesn't shine and their whole bubble economy collapses and wont come back for at least the next 75 years I mean just look at their debt clock lmao

[Anonymous No.22831046]

>>22825646
They like to think they're direct descendants of noblemen instead of shit shoveling peasants lmao

[Anonymous No.22831120]

Socialists are the most brainwashed people on earth.
Fact is that it is way easier to create something for yourself in America compared to Europe.
Socialist basedboys like to talk about "muh free education and muh free healthcare" but that is all baloney and the qualities of these services which they pay for via theft are pure rubbish and nothing but fronts to justify the whole swindle.

[Anonymous No.22831251]

EU has high tax so not worth it. Quality of living might be higher but when everyone is earning roughly the same, it doesn't matter.
In Norway they keep reaching communism us fucking trash but it's more communistic than Vietnam and China. Yeah having one party rule is communistic but having the gov monopolize literally all fields of business with 36% tax on the lowest income is closer to perfect communism.

It's all about preference tho

[Anonymous No.22831281]

>>22831041
Sad to say but debt means nothing. They never could've pay their debt and Wil never. China won't reclaim their money.

Won't happen unless a crisis happens

[Anonymous No.22831384]

>>22825149
>Europe is irrelevant in pop culture
Wet Ass Pussy, krrrrrrrrt
You can keep your pop culture achievements.

[Anonymous No.22831428]

>>22831281
of course it means nothing to the smoothbrains
running these large deficits means there is increasingly higher stress on the dollar until it breaks and hyperinflation sets in its fundamental
burger golems are so stupid to not see the catastrophe heading their way venezuela 2.0

[Anonymous No.22832075]

>>22831428
Of course, the more we wait the harder it'll crash. But till that time comes it'll take decades

[Anonymous No.22832077]

>>22825784

I live in Australia, which I would say is a pretty decent middle ground between Europe and the US, and your points are spot on.

Here in Australia, the money is made by working in undesirable locations or working undesirable hours.

I have a friend who works as a Manager at a fucking McDonalds and he makes 72k per year before overtime, only because he works at night and on the weekends.

I have no degree and I work a standard office gig and make the similar kind of money, I clear about 70k a year plus some occasional overtime here and there.

This does come at a cost though. The cost of living in Australia is really fucking high because our salaries are high. We may pay less taxes than Northern Europe and Scandinavian countries, but we make up for this with cost of living. I'll use housing as an example. Here it's impossible to buy a house for under half a million dollars in a large city. Primarily because a bunch of boomers are leveraging into property investments because tax incentives for owning property in Australia are more advantageous to owning property in the USA or in Europe. But other expenses are more expensive as well. Utilities, Fuel, groceries are all more expensive here.

Akin to europe, we have a really good social security net here. Granted, it's not enough to survive on, but if you had some money saved it could see you through until you'd get another job.

[Anonymous No.22832262]

>>22824576
Weed is basically legal in the netherlands and there is a place in copenhagen called Christiana where u also can buy weed.

[Anonymous No.22832308]

>>22831384
Based. America has about as much culture as Australia.

[Anonymous No.22832313]

>>22824576
>USA has infinitely better culture
Listen up you fucking subhuman piece of shit: The toilet of my grandparents is older than your fucking shithole country which is overrun with niggers. You don't even have anything you can call culture.
All you have is McDonalds and Guns.
Retarded americuck

[Anonymous No.22832339]

>>22832308

Australia is basically the culture of America with the lifestyle of Europe.

[Anonymous No.22832385]

my undergrad is in math and a minor in acconting. looking back i have no idea why i did math major. should i learn some coding? i have heard many people say if you have a degree in cs you wont get hried. on the other hand maybe emplyers will see my degree in math and another minor in coding and think im smart.

[Anonymous No.22832400]

btw i advise all europeans to immigrate to america so long as you dont overpopulate us. my grandpa came here from belgium, even our retarded family members from there got rich af its that fucking easy

[Anonymous No.22832432]

>>22832313
Sorry your grandparents are too poor to afford new appliances eurotrash

[Anonymous No.22832497]

>>22824576

Lost me at USA has better culture

[Anonymous No.22832501]

I love the pay and the culture but we have a serious nigger problem. They also tax the everloving shit out of us, but otherwise I'm pretty happy to be American. I did a two year degree and it's a breeze to get a 90k salary even straight out of school. But nursing school was kind of hard so they don't just hand it to you, have to earn such a salary.

[Anonymous No.22832536]

>>22832385
do some research into opportunities in Data Science maybe- it's at the intersection between computer science, statistics, and math as well to some degree (linear algebra mostly).

Lots of noobs lacking the proper technical background getting into it and earning well, if you come from an actual hard science / mathematics background you'll probably be head and shoulders above most people getting started in this field

[Anonymous No.22832579]

>>22824466
My dad earns £50k and is paid by hour so can get overtime and I don't know anyone parent/themselves who earns more. He's basically sole earner in my household

[Anonymous No.22832665]

>>22824514
How much is yearly health insurance as a percentage of income for a no health issues burger out of university

[Anonymous No.22832731]

It's easier to "make it" in USA because americucks are (bred to be) retarded and have large amounts of trickled down FED money

[Anonymous No.22832753]

>>22824576
>The weather is garbage
lost it
330+ days of sun per year in Nice, you retard. just nice temperate warmth, with no heatwaves
but burger education being what it is, you think "yurop" is bongland

[Anonymous No.22832754]

>>22824466

Go ahead to murrica and feel free to pay your entire savings to healthcare and elders home moron.
Comparing mutts with Europoors is like comparing elephant poop with apples.

In germany i get paid 40 days vacation.
I can go to the doc without paying anything (because it was deducted from your taxes) and let the doc write me infinite time sick and get also paid the money i would earn while working.

Europe especially Germany is not for working, its for fooling around the governments and try to work the less possible.

In Germany we have a high Job qualification class where you can educate yourself forwards without the need of a University or college.

On Muttland , everything is based on your college degree.

Wanna work at McD? Cool story bro , Job experience and college degree at which level?

Other side of Muttland

Wanna work in a Job? Ok start tomorrow! You dont need any further education besides of 2 days video watching. (risk the danger of hurting yourself and others with basically no job education)

So you got sick and you are unemployed too?
Too bad , that'll be 10.000$ for a covid based ventilator (usage 2 days)

So you want to have free days?

Too bad we only know independence day and labour day.

[Anonymous No.22832779]

>>22832501
You think you have high taxes compared to western Europe?

[Anonymous No.22832844]

>look up how much someone with my job makes in America
>it's nearly 3 times as much as I do

[Anonymous No.22832847]

>>22824576
>USA has infinitely better culture
lmao

[Anonymous No.22832890]

we euros get a lot of 'benefits' like paternity/maternity leave, paid sick days (10 at my current place), more paid time off, etc. it's not like these things are magically free because your government makes the companies do it, it's a cost they just pass on to you in the form of a lower salary.

and to be honest, a higher base salary is actually the best option when you think about it. you could spend or work as you choice, not simply trying to take time off to get your 'free days' (aka days you've already paying for and trying to get back).

reminds me of the whole 'free food' the facebook / google recruiters mention. if you don't stay in the office and eat, you're losing out on something that has already been factored into your cost as employee. clever ruse to get you not to leave the campus, blurring the line between work and personal time, etc.

[Anonymous No.22833015]

>>22825834
>the big elephant in the room is that American pharmaceuticals don't enforce copyright violations against countries like Canada or Brazil for taking copyrighted American drugs and making their own off-brand versions- they merely increase the cost that they charge Americans instead of trying to make foreigners pay
Such a retarded conclusion. You cant copyright medication theres a 20 year patent and after that its free play. If we make copycats because the originals wont lower the price because they wanna make more money thats on you guys dont go blame other countries for your greed

[Anonymous No.22833032]

>>22832779
We'll, yes. Obviously. We have objectively insane taxes that are way to high. It doesn't make me feel any better thucjutg about yuros paying. Comparing uh to another country doesn't make it any less high.

[Anonymous No.22833050]

>>22824576
>USA has infinitely better culture but there’s too much degenerate shit.
OH NONONONO HAHAHAAHAHAHAHA

[Anonymous No.22833053]

>>22824466

Well, that's what happens when you let the government steal 50% of your money from you.

[Anonymous No.22833062]

>>22826097
>£80k
Care to share your story? Fellow dev here

[Anonymous No.22833101]

>>22833015
It's more just some people like designer brand stuff. Which would you prefer, name brand acetaminophen or acetaminophen made by some others brand. I'm guessing you don't care but it's very important to boomers because name brand meat luxury and some people can't afford it. It's a way of showing off if you take expensive acetaminophen vs acetaminophen that comes in different packaging.

[Anonymous No.22833106]

>>22833062
I've heard art sales people earn this much

[Anonymous No.22833130]

>>22824466

When people compare these salaries do they use before tax or after tax numbers? I always wandered that. These $100k US salaries are net or gross numbers?

[Anonymous No.22833137]

>>22825149
> Nobody gives a shit about history
That's why americans are uncultured bastards

[Anonymous No.22833139]

>>22825149
>Europe is irrelevant in pop culture

>pop culture

anon i......

[Anonymous No.22833175]

> poor people sleep in their cars while the rich own large mansions
> middle class is fucked and can only vote Trump or Biden
> Your normal person is forced to work or otherwise they will land on the street and die
> Negros can rob you on the street
> Education is so expensive you load shitload on dept on yourself while it is free in Europe

OOOOOH SAY CAN YOU SEEEEEEEE

[Anonymous No.22833202]

>>22832077
>I'll use housing as an example. Here it's impossible to buy a house for under half a million dollars in a large city.
You dont think thats a case in most western european cities? Its more like a million

My gf is australian, we do compare a lot of prices and Australia actually has much lower costs of living compared to where I live (Austria), its ridicolous

[Anonymous No.22833236]

>>22825834
>>22825930
Good summary except for the medicine copyright part

[Anonymous No.22833270]

The fuck....Dutch eurofag here. Work 38hrs/week and getting paid 65k€/year (i'm on 80% and can get to 120%). Wife works 24 hrs/week for 45€k/year (teacher).

[Anonymous No.22833298]

>>22824466
It just depends. 200k+ is if you're skilled with years of experience and work in an extremely expensive city. Just look up median wages and compare.

[Anonymous No.22833345]

>>22824466
Europe has no industry/businesses par a few. Almost everyone in Europe who works at a big company is employed by an American company.

>>22824514
Does it not depend by State?

[Anonymous No.22833386]

>>22824466

[Anonymous No.22833389]

>>22832536
Data science is a meme. I work for a data science company. We get thousands of applicants every day. Genuinely thousands. And they're not garbage either, these people have phds from top universities, top scholarships through life, etc. The competition is intense and there just aren't many jobs actually using it since most companies are still in the stage of keeping their data in personal excel spreadsheets.

[Anonymous No.22833420]

>>22833270
and how much do you pay on taxes?
>>22824466
Just move to Switzerland it's the only place in Europe where it makes sense to live desu.

[Anonymous No.22833798]

>>22833420
<68€k 37%...above 68€k 49%.

[Anonymous No.22834022]

This month, without selling anything from my original stack, I made around 63K from my farms.
my full time salary is 12K....per year

[Anonymous No.22834080]

>>22824514

What the fuck are you talking about lmao, if you have a bachelor's in computer science and you're not a retard you'll easily land 120k+ as your first developer job.

[Anonymous No.22834095]

>>22833386
holy shit germany is a shithole

[Anonymous No.22834155]

>>22824576
>weather is garbage
mfw greece

>USA has infinitely better culture

greek salad 40 euros just for you my dear goy, plus tip!

[Anonymous No.22834180]

My job pays about 3x what euros get paid to do it. Feels comfy euro fags

[Anonymous No.22834231]

>>22824466
>In Europe
TAXES
that's it
/thread

[Anonymous No.22834255]

>>22834155
That being said, salaries for my field (data sci masters) are VASTLY higher in the US than here. It would still be a tough choice given the americlap way of life and demographics though.

Switzerland, on the other hand..

[Anonymous No.22834288]

>>22833130

Gross most definitely. It's easier to brag that way.

[Anonymous No.22834763]

>>22825834
>>22825930
good posts, take my upvote
thanks

[Anonymous No.22834802]

>>22826847
you love the EU? I hope you mean Europe as a continent and not that giant bureaucracy monster eating our money called European Union

[Anonymous No.22834877]

>>22833386
tfw german

[Anonymous No.22835194]

>>22832844
What is cost of living?