/biz/ - Business & Finance

[Anonymous No.225579]

What kind of stocks would YOU buy if you wanted long term success and had $5000 to spend?

[Anonymous No.225589]

bamboo

[Canaduhfag. No.225593]

>>225579
SONY
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[Anonymous No.226685]

People will always get sick. A lot of very well performing big pharma stocks to choose from.

[Anonymous No.226689]

>>225579

Gamestop

[Anonymous No.226821]

>>225579
Once again..

Polish CIG.
They will publish their financial report today.
By the end of this year their stock price will go up from 9 PLN to 17 PLN (maybe even 23 PLN).
Check their value now and after 24h from now.

http://www.cigames.com/en/

[Anonymous No.226832]

I invested in railroads 2 years ago and doubled my money.

[Anonymous No.226936]

>>225593
elaborate

[Anonymous No.227153]

>>226821
Another thing. Their games will be sold in US by Namco-Bandai.

>>226936
They are loosing money faster than ever.
This guy is trying to troll you.

[Anonymous No.227168]

Index funds, moron. You ain't gonna beat the market. You're the one real investors make money from.

[Anonymous No.228726]

buy into google before glass gets out. if oculus rift had a way to invest I'd put all my money in that. its gonna go far.

[Anonymous No.228926]

Look into pharmaceutical companies. UBNT, ALXN, NVO etc have enormous futures ahead of them

[Anonymous No.228943]

>>225579
a bunch of fucking ETFs

[Anonymous No.228946]

Waffles

Tasty, tasty waffles

With lots of syrup

[Anonymous No.229944]

Guys it's OP.

I put my money into BP, Philip Morris International, Altria and BASF. For what reasons am I a major faggot and how quickly will I lose all my money? Should I have invested it in Sony, bamboo and waffles like I was supposed to?

[Anonymous No.229952]

>>229944
Here's to hoping you have some bux leftover to buy after the crash.

[Anonymous No.229969]

>>229944
>Here's to hoping you have some bux leftover to buy after the crash.

I have some silver and gold, also some cash. Why are you so sure that it's gonna crash?

[Anonymous No.229977]

>>229944
you fucked up OP.

Bamboo is one of the strongest materials known to man and when the economy crashes we will be using it to build houses and burning it for fuel.

[Anonymous No.229988]

>Throwing your money down the stock market
I seriously hope you guys don't do this

[Anonymous No.229993]

Wait for the stocks of a company backed up by a nation to go down, buy them, and then enjoy when the nation save their asses and the stocks go up again.

[Anonymous No.230016]

>>229993
For example?
I only know VW.

[Anonymous No.230026]

>>227168
>>228943

Ding ding ding.

You live in an age where low cost diversification is handed to you on a silver platter. Take it, you moron.

You're not going to invest better than firms that can afford to spend thousands of man hours, and hundreds of millions of dollars researching companies.

If you really only have $5000 to invest, just put it in a Vanguard ETF (or a similar low cost ETF, I don't care which), and don't fucking touch it.

[Anonymous No.230044]

>>228943
>>230026
>ETFs
Care to give any examples out symbols?

All ETFs I've come across (DUST/DGAZ) etc for gold and natural gas are decaying ETFs which ensures you lose money in the longrun.

[Anonymous No.230048]

>>229977

Yes sir, bamboo may the hardest metal known to man, but it doesn't make me any money.

>>230026

Aren't huge companies also super diversified? P&G and Coca Cola for example, they're making money globally.

[Anonymous No.230054]

RFMK dude. I'm telling you, this is going to be a fucking gold mine. I put 2k in myself a couple months ago.

[Anonymous No.230067]

>>230044

QQQ

or look here:

https://personal.vanguard.com/us/funds/etf/all

Don't look at commodity ETFs, look at Stock sector ones. If you want to do a little bit of research into portfolio optimization (it's pretty simple stuff), you can make a more optimal portfolio with just a single stock ETF and a single bond ETF.

>>230048

Yes and no. They may be diversified globally, but there is still risk of something happening in their sector (i.e. a shortage of sugar or corn for coca cola), or a scandal for that particular company, or just a terrible decision (new coke).

[Anonymous No.230085]

>>230067
What are some recommended sector ETFs to someone new to these types of stocks?

I see you mention QQQ which looks to be reasonably priced. I'd like to see good, reliable ones that are sub $100

[Anonymous No.230108]

VAPR HEMP CBIS MJNA MDBX DISNEY JOHNSON AND JOHNSON TWENTY FIRST CENTURY FOX NEWS CORP LATF FITX

[Anonymous No.230110]

>>230085
The price of the ETF itself is irrelevant. Look for index tracking ETF's that have low expense ratios, ideally under .25%

I have my ETF portfolio allocated to 5 different ETF's:
S&P 500 Index: 30%
Small Cap Growth: 20%
Foreign Large Caps: 20%
Emerging Markets: 20%
REIT's: 10%

I have a boner for foreign stocks, and currently have no representation in bonds, but finding an asset allocation that appeals to you is important. Make a plan and stick to it.

[Anonymous No.230113]

>>230085

Here's a better view for comparing price:

https://personal.vanguard.com/us/funds/etf/ETFTableView

VTV, VTI, IVOV (if you want to be a bit riskier).

Just look at the them and see which one fits what you're looking for the most. You can see what they're invested in broken down by sector/largest holdings. Look at the expenses associated with them as well.

[Anonymous No.230114]

>>230067

Thank you for producing high quality posts.

[Anonymous No.230130]

>>230110
>S&P 500 Index: 30%
>Small Cap Growth: 20%
>Foreign Large Caps: 20%
>Emerging Markets: 20%
>REIT's: 10%
Apologies but I literally have no idea what this relates to.

Could you share your portfolio perhaps?

[Anonymous No.230144]

>>230110
how much in fees are you paying?

[Anonymous No.230167]

>>230130

I'm not that guy, but it's pretty simple stuff.

There are ETFs that replicate the S&P500, 30% of his profile is invested in one of those.

Small Cap is a term for stocks with a "small" market capitalization, which is about $250 million to $2 billion.

Stocks are generally broken down into "Growth" stocks and "Value" stocks. Growth tend to be a bit riskier, and have a lower price-to-earnings ratio on average.

So 20% of his portfolio is in an ETF that focuses on small cap growth stocks.

Foreign Large Cap refers to large capitalization stocks based outside of the US. He has 20% of his portfolio invested in an ETF which focuses on stocks of large foreign firms.

Emerging Markets: countries who's economies are developing very rapidly. Generally, refers to investing in "BRIC" nations: Brazil, Russia, India, China. He has 20% of his portfolio invested in an ETF which focuses on stocks based in these countries.

REITs are a bit more complex. They stand for Real Estate Investment Trusts, basically it's investing in real estate but in reality it can be a bit more complex.

[Anonymous No.230178]

>>230167
is this amount of hedging necessary?


is there even a slight chance say one of those foriegn firms will absolutely kill everything else in the next few years?

or say an emerging market will become the new dominant one crushing everything else and rendering your current stocks in say s&p500 useless?

basically, why not just invest in the largest western companies

[Anonymous No.230193]

>>230130

To generalize, each ETF represents a different index or market sector.

S&P 500 ETF: Tracks the S&P 500, which is considered the benchmark for US stocks. The S&P tracks the movement of 500 large US companies.

Small Cap Growth: "Cap" refers to a company's market cap, which is basically a measure of how big that company is. A small cap growth index tracks a number of smaller companies that have the potential to vastly increase their stock value.

Foreign Large Caps: Big, non-US companies.

Emerging Markets: Tracks the stocks in undeveloped countries

REIT's: Stands for Real Estate Investment Trusts, a REIT index tracks the movement of publicly traded real estate investment companies.

The Bogleheads go into greater depth about indexing and asset allocation here:
http://www.bogleheads.org/forum/viewforum.php?f=4

>>230144
iShares Core S&P 500 - .07% expense ratio
Vanguard FTSE All-World ex-US - .15% expense ratio
Vanguard Emerging Markets Stock Index - .15 expense ratio
Vanguard REIT Index - .10 expense ratio
Vanguard Small Cap Growth - .10 expense ratio

i liek vanguard

[Anonymous No.230197]

>>230178

He admits to having a boner for foreign firms. 40% in foreign assets is pretty high for my taste.

Emerging markets in particular is a high risk high reward thing. Foreign large caps, and S&P 500 is pretty safe as far as stocks go.

He doesn't invest solely in western companies because then he is exposed to more risk. It's not necessarily about a higher return, just lowering risk for the same return.

[Anonymous No.230201]

>>230193

>i liek vanguard

my man

[Anonymous No.230215]

>>230178
US Stocks represent only 30ish % of the total worldwide market capitalization. I'm not daring enough to pick individual foreign stocks, 'cuz of differences in accounting practices, and a lack of ability to read financial statements written in Mandarin, but if you want a better representation of the stock market as a whole, more foreign stocks is better than less.

[Anonymous No.230221]

>>230215
>>230197
thanks

[Anonymous No.230225]

Bet it all on one, not enough to really make sense w/ Mutual Fund unless you dont mind 3-10 years plan.

SODA is a good one, in my opinion.

[Anonymous No.230232]

>>230225
>betting on one stock
Might as well take the money to Atlantic City for a weekend, it'd be quicker and more entertaining for a similar result.

On the other hand, just dump it all in Chipotle stock. People fuckin' love Chipotle. ALL IN ON THE BURRITO BUBBLE!!!

[Anonymous No.230249]

>tfw when i lost 30K in a few months thinking i could predict commodities

[Anonymous No.230315]

>>225579
>$5000
>long term success
I'd get a job.

[Anonymous No.230365]

>>230232
They're not going to be carrying guac anymore.
GONNA BURST SOON.

[Anonymous No.230406]

>>226821
You Still here ?

Its the night of the 21st here in urop. No report.

Explain why your analysis of this security seems so bullish.

[Anonymous No.232241]

>>225579
Long-term success with 5K?

I'd put half into shares in big retail corporations. A 4.5% dividend is a better return than any savings account right now. That'd give me a solid base to work on, especially if I watched the prices carefully and bought low.
The rest, invest in up-and-coming african and south american mining.

However, if given 5K to 'invest', I'd sink it into a training course and learn a trade. Plumbers and electricians get paid a shitton for virtually no work. I once saw someone get paid £200 for bypassing a circuit board, just because he knew which one to do.

[Anonymous No.232255]

>>228943

This.

[Anonymous No.232262]

>>230193

Why the iShares S&P500 fund?

VOO from Vanguard has a .05% expense ratio.

[Anonymous No.232280]

>>232241

What part of the world do you live in?

[Anonymous No.232287]

>>232280
>£200
>British Pound Sterling