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It's like I don't even have to tell you to get your MNs in before Raiden anymore, because obsessed fudders have XSN tattooed on their mouths and their psyche and inadvertently advertise it for free.
Thank you fudders. With your help, XSN will go exceed the slated $100 to hit $200 2021.

>> No.22459387

>>22459354
The Devs won’t even commit to a timeline on Raiden though. They have yet to give even a single promised date for the integration.

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>>22459387
It's slated to be done within 2 or 3 build updates. The Raiden devs appear to be very impressed with X9's progress and they have one of the most active github repos in crypto, so I think they're on the right track.

>> No.22459432

>muh raiden
>literally no idea when it's going to be completed

nice fucking cope. it'll hit sub 1k before that shit ever gets done if ever

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Friendly reminder to hide all XSN and stakenet threads.

Do not respond to XSN and stakenet threads.

XSN is a vaporware scam with paid shills posting threads here 24/7.

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>>22459432
>>22459458
>back to back copypaste fud within less than a minute
Totally organic guys. You're not emotionally invested at all.
3 months in and your creative genius is really showing. Top marks.

>> No.22459641

>>22459431
So still no date.
Look IF they deliver it will actually be something. But the very fact they refuse to say “you can expect it by X month” should tell you that the delivery isn’t certain. I am saying this as an MN holder.
It’s a good asymmetrical trade because you can only lose 1x your money, but still I am getting tired of the Devs not being clear about this.

>> No.22459698

>>22459577
Why do you even post your project on here? Everyone on biz already knows about it with the million threads that have been made. You're trying to persuade people to pump the price and you get angry when anyone says anything negative.

Are you retarded?

>> No.22459733

>>22459641
>But the very fact they refuse to say “you can expect it by X month” should tell you that the delivery isn’t certain
Kek. This is the same exact concern shilling fudders used about the DEX beta in July.
Then there was a hard date. Then they shuffled cards around and found something new to menstruate about lol

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>>22459698
>we told you to buy at 600 sat
>he doesnt realize xsn is top 10 material with years-long staying power
You're welcome

>> No.22459812

>>22459641
Yes goy buy after the product is out, I'm sure you still haven't bought link and are waiting for staking+offchain+aggregation+mixicles to buy in.

>> No.22459826

They are not releasing a date, because Raiden doesn't work on WIndows. Even the Raiden team doesn't know when it could support Win. It's a pipedream, just like all the previous stakenet roadmaps.

>> No.22459853

>>22459387
... because 'raiden' is still in beta.

>> No.22459940

Things that need to happen before XSN can do anything of value:

1. Raiden team has to finish their product, and port it to Windows (~1 year)
2. XSN has to integrate Raiden on their wallet (~6 months)

End of 2021 is the soonest you can expect a product worth using. XSN team can say what they want, but their development history gives you an idea how good they're at keeping deadlines.

>> No.22459969

>>22459940
... And by then the competition for L2 DEX's is going to be insane. Other L2 solutions have reached maturity, and possibly even Eth 2.0 is out.

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>>22459826
>>22459940
July
>guys ETH privkey integration is gonna take 2 years
>privkey integration in 2 builds!
>guys its gonna take them 2 years to port it to Windows
lol. keep seeting

>> No.22460062

I think most people are going to be quite surprised when they learn that Raiden is still very much in beta, and it doesn't even work on Windows. Some shitheads on the discord tried to play this out as "XSN devs wanting to develop on Linux, that's why Raiden is being tested on Linux!". Fucking blatant deception trying to dodge the fact that it's a LONG ways to go.

>> No.22460091

>>22460034
Again, trying to deceive by using a completely different subject as an example.

>> No.22460137

Do you think such a smart project like stakenet makes itself dependent on a single scalingsolution by 3rd party devs? I wouldn’t bet on that.

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>>22460062
>>22460091
None of this is remotely true.
If you were around for the previous beta tests, you'd remember that Windows builds came very quickly after the harder testing concluded on Linux.
You're the same ones who were kicking and screaming about the DEX (now available for anyone to download) being vaporware a few weeks ago. Now you're just desperately flooding whatever fud you hope will stick because you've been at it for months and getting routinely btfo.

>> No.22460272

>>22460187
>you'd remember that Windows builds came very quickly after the harder testing concluded on Linux.
You do know that Raiden is not being developed by the XSN team? Fucking AGAIN, trying to deceive by using half-truths and out-of-context examples.

>> No.22460403

>>22460272
Raiden interop will indeed be part of upcoming Windows builds

>> No.22460475

>>22460403
Didn't say it wouldn't be. I just reject the absolutely ridiculous timelines people are giving out. Basis for the unrealistic timelines is the fact that a realistic timeline would reveal that they are going to face incredible competition in 2021, and are in fact not "far ahead" of anyone else in DEX development.

>> No.22460589

>>22460272
If you want some good fud, you should do some digging as to why Vitalik doesn't shill state channels, and why state channel solutions like lightning and raiden will never be the defacto solution. It's actually really interesting. Why do you think lightning is dead? cause no liquidity? Oh no no no my friend, it's actually much more complicated than that.

No to say that money cannot be made from investing in xsn. You can, however the implications for such a dex using lightning/raiden locked channels is actually detrimental to the network lmao. That's why it's only the shills in their own threads, no one talks about it cause most of this stuff was shut down 3 years ago

>> No.22460699

>>22460475
>>22460589
For a team that had no ICO or major industrial backing, they've delivered considerably more than most big cryptos have on their goals.
There do happen to be many eyes on L2. It has rather bullish prospects, I'd say. Especially if all the new hot ICOs are basically trying to mimic XSN and hope no one finds out XSN exists

>> No.22460803

>>22460699
They have developed lots, but a large portion of it was misplaced efforts. They thought people would care enough to use LN swaps in 2020, they don't. They thought people would be OK with downloading & installing a separate client, they are not.

>> No.22460988

>>22460803
Nah man, if people can swap upon deposit and pay sub-$1 gas fees over $30 gas fees they'll jump at the opportunity. It'd be foolish not to.