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[Anonymous No.22419976]

what did vitalik mean by this? im a brainlet. sorry..

[Brad-lee Ailpain No.22420047]

>>22419976
ugh redditspacing, such a cuck.

[Anonymous No.22420180]

>>22419976
He's implying the creators of Arbitrum are retarded

[Anonymous No.22420213]

>i'm EXTREMELY scared
Arbitrum is trying to make your chain work, Vitalik, why the hate...

[Anonymous No.22420299]

Perfect its afraid meme material with vitalik as alien and ed as barney

[Anonymous No.22420589]

>>22419976
Post a link to what he’s responding to

[Brad-lee Ailpain No.22420611]

>>22419976
>>22420213
he's scared because the value is being moved faster than the system can notice it has made a consensus failure...

[Anonymous No.22420646]

>>22419976
I’m starting to think Vitalik is not as clever as I originally thought.

[Anonymous No.22420675]

>>22420213
Vitalik is a very basic manchild, he may have autist interest and talent, but he's still a midwit in many ways

[Anonymous No.22420904]

>>22420646
wut, you fell for the puppet on a string? mooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooron

[Anonymous No.22421087]

>>22419976
Vitalik browses 4chan? Why does he use greentext on Twitter?

[Anonymous No.22421129]

>>22421087
that's how you qoute on reddit too... i've heard.

[Anonymous No.22421266]

>>22421129
Oh is it? lol, I never knew that. Never posted on plebbit.

[Anonymous No.22421407]

>>22421266
ha ha me neither

[Anonymous No.22421435]

>>22420611
thanks for explaining.

[Anonymous No.22421469]

I just read the thread on Twitter.

Each Arbitrum chain can choose its own parameters for challenge periods.

In that entire thread, Steven Goldfeder destroys Vitalik. Vitalik then stops responding as usual when he’s proven wrong. Such a fucking autist. And an insufferable faggot for not attending smart con.

This makes me more excited for Q1 2021 when Arbitrum solves the scalability issue and Vitalik will be left seething on Twitter.

[Anonymous No.22421553]

>>22421469
This is a very accurate description of the events. I was following the chat live at the time.

[Anonymous No.22421554]

Basically he is calling arbitrum a scam by pointing out such an obvious flaw. And that arbitrum needs eth 2. Sadly I think vitalik is correct.

[Anonymous No.22421619]

>>22421553
It’s amusing to see him type “I’m EXTREMELY scared”

The absolute state of Vitalik. He’s like a 13 year old girl.

[Anonymous No.22421627]

>>22420646
He fiucking stole the ethereum source code from the XRP founder.. so no shit

[Anonymous No.22421673]

>Im EXTREMELY scared

Freudian slip. Vitalik knows Link + Arbitrum is about to put ETH in the grave, permanently.

[Anonymous No.22421674]

>>22421469
Things I'm looking forward to
>vitalik and eth getting forever btfo and being made irrelevant
>making it

In that order

[Anonymous No.22421678]

>>22419976
Doesn't take much to make those skeleton bones literally shake

[Anonymous No.22421718]

>>22420047
He is green texting you dumb newfag.

[Anonymous No.22421725]

>>22421087
that way of quotin was used on old blogs in the 90's faggot
imagine being this much of a newfag trash

[Anonymous No.22421736]

>>22421673
>Link is built ON Ethereum
>Cars will eradicate the need for roads
Ok retard

[Anonymous No.22421751]

https://twitter.com/sgoldfed/status/1296796957554475008?s=21

I’m noticing that Vitalik often makes disingenuous statements masked with sophistry. This is similar to the time with Sergey when during a discussion on the use of oracles he intentionally misinterpreted Sergey’s point and said that oracles aren’t needed for cross chain communication and you can use merkle trees. Sergey couldn’t respond cause he’s not technical. However, Goldfeder on the other hand:

> First can we not assume that all Optimistic Rollup protocols have a sequencer? Arbitrum doesn’t and we believe it’s a fundamentally bad design.
> Second, I know people like to throw around one week [time for challenge periods], but we have modeling that it’s much lower
> Anyway to wrap up re my original point: There's a misconception in your post that links the liveness/withdrawal delay in ORU to the Sequencer, but the two are entirely separate.

The Sequencer, as its name suggests orders txs but doesn't help with the withdrawal delay. 1/

> Vitalik - no response

[Anonymous No.22421857]

>>22421736
>paper is worth more than money

[Anonymous No.22421876]

>>22421673
a fucking erc20 token which doesn't even have any function
k

[Anonymous No.22421919]

>>22421736
>Being this fucking dumb
When ethereum is obsolete link will not care, because it won't be on ethereum anymore

[Anonymous No.22421941]

>>22419976
I mean, he's right, Goldfeder admits setting the parameter this low would be trading off security for speed. But I guess it's cool as long as the user is aware of this, that's what l2 is all about

[Anonymous No.22421952]

>>22421919
They know anon, they know...

[Anonymous No.22421965]

ITT drooling retards pretending to understand what the argument is about

[Anonymous No.22421981]

>>22419976
ETH is doomed. It will never work. it's over

[Anonymous No.22422050]

>>22419976
>I'm EXTREMELY scared.
What a fucking faggot. Aribtrum can adjust its time if ETH is just too fucking slow for it and also what a disingenuous reaction. If I held ETH I'd fucking sell from this tweet alone. I couldn't imagine Sergey every reacting like this.

[Anonymous No.22422069]

>>22421725
All right grandpa

[Anonymous No.22422090]

>>22419976
I have no idea OP, why don't you tell us?

[Anonymous No.22422092]

>>22422050
Fundmentally childish

[Anonymous No.22422114]

>>22419976
I literally mentioned this in a few threads the other day, you cant keep consensus off chain for that long without introducing state issues. Its vapor ware guise

[Anonymous No.22422149]

>>22422090
lol, literally this

[Anonymous No.22422170]

>>22421965
No, we’re annoyed at Vitalik’s disingenous misinterpretation of Arbitrum. Then he stops responding in the face of balanced rebuttal.

Shut the fuck up

[Anonymous No.22422189]

Anyone with a cubic centimetre of distributed systems knowledge and common sense knows that Vitalik is just high off his original goldstrike with the ETH whitepaper. Most of the other shit that he publishes is pseudointellectualism masked with complex terminology and childish disposition.

[Anonymous No.22422201]

vitalik thinks sgoldfed has come up with a stupid solution. vitalik will hit the stupid man with fear to punish him for thinking such stupid thoughts.

[Anonymous No.22422256]

>>22420180
this basically. but linktards are delusional and illiterate so it doesnt matter

[Anonymous No.22422363]

>>22421736
Arbitrum moves Chainlink away from ETH on all levels, finally.

[Anonymous No.22422473]

>implying any single one of you retards can even begin to understand the conversation between vitalik and goldfeder and know who's in the right
lmao

[Anonymous No.22422525]

>>22422473
You’re a retard, you don’t need to be able to understand the technical details of their conversation to determine that Vitalik is misinterpreting and strawman-ing.

[Anonymous No.22422575]

>>22421736
>the year is 2020
>he still doesn’t get it
Anon, I...

[Anonymous No.22422585]

>>22422525
t. retard

[Anonymous No.22422611]

>>22422525
>you don't need to be able to understand the conversation to understand who's misinterpreting and who is not
hmm ya ok

[Anonymous No.22422621]

>>22422473
We unironically know the technical details better than the autistic skeleton. He only just began understanding how fucked he is, that's why he's scared.

[Anonymous No.22422666]

>>22422621
the only thing that's unironic about you is your shilling of a project you're invested in but have no hope of understanding

[Anonymous No.22422674]

we can make cars that drive at 200km/h
>WOW AM EXTREMELY WORRIED YOU CAN DIE IF YOU HIT A WALL AT 50KM/H
yeah, I mean, you can also drive slower if you're approaching a wall
>stops answering

[Anonymous No.22422698]

>>22421627
literal antisemetic propaganda from /pol/

get punched

[Anonymous No.22422703]

Bought more ada

[Anonymous No.22422754]

>>22422611
You’re a retard as the subject matter is simple it’s just contained within complex frameworks.

They’re discussing the duration of challenge periods, Vitalik says he’s “EXTREMELY scared” that Arbitrum is going to only have a challenge period of a matter of hours. He’s disingenuously ignoring the fact that this is an example and that time period is one of many parameters. Also, even if he was right, his language is childish.

[Anonymous No.22422762]

>>22422674
>b-but biz doesn’t understand

[Anonymous No.22422919]

>>22420611
well why doesn't this egghead fix it

[Anonymous No.22422926]

>>22421673
you don't know how any of it works do you?
all optimistic rollups put all data on ethereum, they only scale computation. Both are limited by layer1. They can't charge any noticeable fees are people are going to move to another rollup (infinitely easier than moving between chains). Fees are going to be just a few percent above the cost of running a node.
All value accrues to the base layer, which is ethereum.

That's why optimism.io aims to earn income by ordering dex transactions to generate profit, relying on fees isn't workable

[Anonymous No.22422978]

>>22421673
the only thing that arbitrum is putting into the grave is your dollars
>2020
>betting against ethereum
lmao

[Anonymous No.22423009]

>>22422926
>are people are going to
as people are going to

the tl;dr is that tokens for those scaling solutions have very low value, as 'miner extractable value' is very low, as people already learned to put tight slippage on trades during periods of non-congestion. It's pretty much a public utility, something best run by eth stakers as an additional service.

[Anonymous No.22423065]

>>22422256
>Arbitrum does what eth can't
Sounds like pure cope to me

[Anonymous No.22423656]

>>22421469
Link to thread?

[Anonymous No.22423755]

>>22423009
Low value? Nobody wants to buy another token go to another dapp then make a transaction. To much shit for me and I’ve been using eth for a bit. Even using meta mask pisses me off. Nobody will use layer 2 unless it is seem less. That’s why think arbitum is good. The user exp doesn’t change it just works

[Anonymous No.22423790]

>>22421718
anon i....

[Anonymous No.22424405]

>>22422114
Arbitrum isn't designed to scale ETH for NEETs interacting on chain to sell uniswap shit coins. It's designed for a business who doesn't need the fast speeds but will do a lot of tx.

[Anonymous No.22424571]

Should I be dumping my ETH? Currently in a 80/10/10 split between LINK, ETH and BTC. What else should I be holding to bet on Arbitrum over ETH?

[Anonymous No.22424581]

>>22424405
correct

[Anonymous No.22424684]

Tldr Vitalik is a seething autistic manchild treading water happy in his bubble unaware that others are solving eth problems