/biz/ - Business & Finance

[Anonymous No.2239662]

>received my first paycheck when living alone and supporting myself

Aaaaaand... I have immediately moved to a more right wing and all round bitter position.

[Anonymous No.2239665]

>>2239662
>paycheck
Found your problem

[Anonymous No.2239671]

Almost certainly your money will go into:
A. isreali arms
B. Saudi arms
C. black peoples drug habits
D. Propaganda for children in schools so not everyone starts questioning it too much

sounds great huh

[Anonymous No.2239679]

>>2239662
Welcome friend. Now start reading Milton Friedman and watching Molyneux videos.

[Anonymous No.2239694]

Subscriptions to the The United States Government™ don't come cheap

[Anonymous No.2239712]

>>2239662

welcome to real life socialism anon.
where hard working individuals have to pay for niggers and other useless subhumans gibsmedat, and on top of that for the jewish nwo fuckery too.

[Anonymous No.2239745]

>>2239662

Stop. Here's your chance to switch your brain back on and stop transforming into a far right retard.

You can hate brown people and the tax man all you want. But they're not the ones literally stealing your healthcare and burning your birthright to give as many tax breaks as possible to the 1%.

You have more in common with a Muslim Uber driver than you do with a despicable orange shitgibbon hacked into office by Russian tricks.

[Anonymous No.2239750]

>>2239745

Geee i wonder who could be behind this post.

[Anonymous No.2239752]

>>2239745
Hello shariablue. You will not divide us

[Anonymous No.2239757]

>>2239745
>buying the russian hackerz line

[Anonymous No.2239767]

>>2239745
But this guy has a point

Look at where you taxes actually go.
Its doesnt matter because all tax is stole and the government are all theives

[Anonymous No.2239773]

>>2239767
how come government is eat all of my taxes? Wtff...

[Anonymous No.2239780]

>>2239745

My allegiance to President Donald J Trump will never wane.

[Anonymous No.2239890]

>>2239712
>mfw my credit is a "well its not bad but youve never borrowed money, goy" number
>dont pay taxes because im self employed and all of my money is laundered through my wife and her property
>sitting on massive capital waiting to buy tracts of land listening to wagies complain

[Anonymous No.2240280]

>>2239745
>the whole of silicon valley is behind hillary
>the whole of hollywood is behind hillary
>almost every billionaire is behind hillary
>college-educated (aka the 1%) overwhelmingly vote hillary
>"haha fuck drumpfs lol fuck the 1%"
what did he mean by this

[Anonymous No.2240293]

>>2239662
You simply realized that prosperity comes from hard work, not from handouts.

[Anonymous No.2240761]

I'm reading about national insurance contributions right now. Pretty much an extra tax except with the added insult of them claiming that it's put in a pot for pensions and healthcare.

[Anonymous No.2240789]

>>2240761
How it should be done: individual accounts with mandatory contributions, topped up from general government revenue, unlocked post-retirement-age on an annuity basis, leftovers get passed on to heirs.

How it's actually done: Ponzi scheme lol

[Anonymous No.2240793]

>>2240280
Nobody wanted Sanders in there though.

[Anonymous No.2240799]

>>2239745
and the muslim uber driver will rant about how the Ghanaian toilet cleaners are making his life worse and tearing society apart... It's the only way to feel some semblance of power when you're stuck in a system that works directly against you. Look at the pathetic head-in-sand replies to this post for more examples

[Anonymous No.2240811]

>>2240799
You lazy communists are on the wrong board.

[Anonymous No.2240843]

I pay almost 1.4k in taxes including Medicare and social Security, but my gf is on Medicaid and had a lot of stuff done for free, so it kinda paid off in a weird way.

[Anonymous No.2240849]

>>2240843
Per month*

[Anonymous No.2240855]

>>2240811
you're in the land of the neet-speculator yet still buy into bootstraps/work-ethic memery?

[Anonymous No.2240856]

>>2239679
Fun fact: Molyneux has over a million BTC from d'nations.

[Anonymous No.2240902]

>>2239662
Yeah I was shocked at how much comes out of my paycheck.

Personally I think it's a two fold issue, I'd remove so much social welfare and safety nets (social security, for example, is just a Ponzi scheme, but it's the government's, so you have to play along) and military. Seriously, we should just walk away from world conflicts and slice our military budget in half. Let Korea finally hash it out. Let the Middle East burn everything down (we have plenty of oil with Canada supplementing anyway). Let Europe and Russia bomb each other, they do it every century anyway.

We would be king of the hill with china a far second if we became more isolationist. But those lobbyists from Boeing and LM sure make it harder.

[Anonymous No.2240909]

>>2240855
What do you think identifying the right pump and dumps takes? Work.

Can anyone else do it for you? Fuck no, gotta pull yourself up by your bootstraps.

[Anonymous No.2240941]

>>2240902
military is a good thing to have DESU, and china is not your ally, u dumb americuck

the biggest problem wellfare leeches, but that can be fixed easily by throwing all jobless non-whites out of the country

[Anonymous No.2240985]

>>2240280
> Believing that Hillary wasn't at all times wearing the tail plug the 1% gave her...

Can you be this naive? Only Cornell West is on the right side of this argument. They are both fucking horrible.

t. Already early voted for Sanders/Warren 2020

[Anonymous No.2242105]

>>2240985
That old fuck won't be around in 2020, let alone 2024 if he were to get elected.

[Anonymous No.2242625]

>>2240941
http://news.antiwar.com/2017/02/27/trump-seeks-massive-9-military-spending-hike/

[Anonymous No.2242668]

>>2242625
The world is partially run by corporate millitary psychopaths

???

is this a surprise to you ?

[Anonymous No.2243433]

>>2239745
You know the top 1% is almost 40 percent jewish. This post is highly anti Semitic and should be deleted.

[Anonymous No.2243494]

>>2239745
>Stop forming your own opinions and think like me instead

[Anonymous No.2243497]

Yep, same situation OP. Except I'm self employed and I looked into doing everything by IRS standards and then promptly voted for Trump.

Those who work are punished, those who don't are rewarded. I don't work so some nigger or spic can get free gibsmedats.

I lied on how much I earned through being self employed, hell my accountant pretty much told me to. wink wink.

[Anonymous No.2243500]

>>2239745
nice bait

[Anonymous No.2243518]

>>2239767
You use roads that are maintained by a government. Not all taxes go towards nothing. If you use those roads to go to work to earn money, you have to pay the tax.

I do agree that the government abuses it's powers and pretty much fucks over hard working people though.

[Anonymous No.2243524]

>>2240855
Murder your family so they don't make any more disgusting commies and then murder yourself.

[Anonymous No.2243568]

>>2243518

>muh roads

when will this meme die?

[Anonymous No.2243592]

>>2243568
why not just walk there

[Anonymous No.2243612]

>>2243568
What memes? You dumb faggot I'm at work looking at a government contract for road repair right across the street.

I forgot that NEETs don't even drive.

[Anonymous No.2243655]

>>2243612

u're just a complete, utter moron fellow anon.
without muh goberment the roads would be build by people who use and need them - land owner, private companys, house owner.
exactly the same people building muh roads now, where government fails to so.

fuckin retard.

[Anonymous No.2243676]

>>2243612

dumping some more nice muh road meme pictures for you, since i have the impression you are not moms brightest light in the chandelier.

[Anonymous No.2243689]

>>2239662
Yup, welcome to the real world anon. Just dont let it get u down. Be sure amd put your fucking foot on all the leftist cucks u can. There is an escape if you learn to invest now and change everything u know about money.

Not only will life not give u free shit. Bit it will try and hold you under water every fucking time u see the bank.

Welcome to the RIGHT side op

[Anonymous No.2243696]

>>2239712
100% truth

[Anonymous No.2243699]

>>2239745
Basement gimmedat detected

[Anonymous No.2243708]

>>2239745
In fact. Fuckit.

GD.

WE NOW CALL THESE KEKFAG LIBERALS GD FOR (GIMMEDAT)

MAKE IS SO BROTHERS.

5/31/2017.

Nevar 4get

[Anonymous No.2243717]

>>2239780
NOPE

[Anonymous No.2243726]

>>2239890
>mfw anontard games the system amd gets prison assraped for cheating uncle sam out of his stolen tax monies

[Anonymous No.2243728]

>>2243676
saved

fight fascism

[Anonymous No.2243729]

>>2243612

but i need muh roads from muh gobernment

[Anonymous No.2243745]

>>2240811
Kek

[Anonymous No.2243749]

>>2240843
I pay over 50k a year in taxes.

U welfare cucks are about to be cutoff.

[Anonymous No.2243753]

>>2243612

muh goberment contract for road repair

[Anonymous No.2243759]

>mfw /biz/nessmen will get so rich from virtual coins that we can crowdfund an ancap island nation just so we don't have to figure out how to pay taxes on our crypto gains

[Anonymous No.2243764]

>>2240941
U had me at jobless.

Mutherfuckers work, find another way to contribute, or get the fuck out


OUT OUT OUT

[Anonymous No.2243765]

>>2243612


plz mister gobernment, gimme muh roads!

[Anonymous No.2243768]

>>2242105
Thank fuck

[Anonymous No.2243784]

>>2243518
Yap. Fix the roads. Obama doesnt need 89 bajillion dollars for vacations and social programs need fucking gone. Fend fir yourself or dont be a faggot so your family will help u. Otherwise die.

[Anonymous No.2243788]

>>2243753
you actually think people will pull together and operate like this at a national scale? you have more faith in humanity than most socialists

[Anonymous No.2243789]

>>2243676
>Voluntarily interacting individuals

Hahaha retarded libertarians actually believe this? They need to learn a thing or two about human mentality and nature.

[Anonymous No.2243794]

>>2243612
Mfw i make and maintain dirt roads for a living.

[Anonymous No.2243808]

>>2243759
Go away scam mod cuck. I see u

[Anonymous No.2243816]

>>2243518


only roads will know peace from this rustling.

[Anonymous No.2243819]

>>2239767
>>2243518
Schools, roads and bridges are not funded by income taxes at all. Property taxes fund schools; roads and bridges are funded by gas taxes; airports, sewer and water systems are funded by user fees.

A gigantic portion of income taxes goes straight to paying interest on the national debt. Which is owned by Federal Reserve jews who just created the money to loan us out of nothing.

[Anonymous No.2243835]

>>2243816
Yeah some company is going to voluntarily build free roads for everybody :) And you won't have to pay a dime for it like with those government thieves!

[Anonymous No.2243853]

>>2243835
Ok how about this, get rid of all taxes and start a "kickstarter" crowdfunding project for all the roads. Which one do you think will be more efficient?

[Anonymous No.2243854]

>>2243788
Nah, just faith in white people.

[Anonymous No.2243862]

>>2243835
Literally no one is proposing that. Fucking kill yourself.

[Anonymous No.2243871]

>>2243853
>>2243854

This can't be real. You're mad that you have to pay taxes when it's a federal law, but think that you'll voluntarily pay money when there's no obligation to? Fucking hilarious.

Let's be honest, the both of you are greedy fucks and wouldn't spend a dime for the goodness of society or someone else, so let's not bullshit with the "have faith in us!". The people that actually have faith in each other already have socialism and gladly pay for each other.

[Anonymous No.2243875]

>>2243835
we won't even need a company! everybody will link arms and build roads for their communities together! then provided our density of vegetarians is low enough McDonalds will build us a McHighWay and we'll be connected to the McMap!

[Anonymous No.2243881]

>>2243788
>>2243789

astonishing how far the gobernment brainwashing has gone.
roads are build by road building companys.
why would this road companys stop building roads when the gobernment cease to exist?
wouldn't it be more logical that they proceed to build and maintain roads, like they ever did and get payed for their work by people who actually use this roads?

Like any other private business - private citizen interaction since ever?

Enjoy being a cuck and bend over when the state comes to fuck you balls deep.

[Anonymous No.2243905]

>>2243881
Full disclosure, I'm enjoying your road picture posts. Do continue.

[Anonymous No.2243922]

>>2243871
voluntarism is the future of human civilization once the low IQ subhumans get weeded out. it might take a century or so, but it'll happen

[Anonymous No.2243923]

>>2243871
Yeah I would voluntarily pay money for roads. Just like I voluntarily paid money for my car or voluntarily paid money for gasoline.

[Anonymous No.2243935]

>>2243862
Then what are you proposing you dumbfuck? Who's gonna fund all the roads, the police officers, the firefighters, etc?

>>2243875
This really can't be real. This whole "everybody will link arms" business also sounds very communist-y.

>>2243881
>by people who actually use this roads?

Tolls on every road? Lol sounds nice. So what, it's a per-use fee or overall subscription allowing to use the road fee? Do we get the same thing for cops and firefighters? Everybody uses roads, not just "some" people.

And let's say that the roads become economically unprofitable since there is very little traffic in some areas and the companies decide to give up, what then lol? Nobody to maintain those roads and cutting access to other areas of your countries? It's really a retarded idea, you gotta be more precise.

[Anonymous No.2243940]

>>2243875

plz anon just kill yourself. it hurts how cucked u are.
people who need roads will build roads or pay private companys to build roads.
whats so magical and unreal about this concept?
or is just too complicated to wrap your head around this simple idea of voluntarily paying for stuff u want/need?

[Anonymous No.2243960]

I can't stand you uneducated /pol/ retards.

Your check isn't going to MUH jobless and MUH welfare like you fucking think it is. It's barely even a noticeable percentage if you consider where the fuck your taxes are actually/realistically going, you ignorant fucks.

Welfare/Food Stamps/Benefits for the poor/homeless/destitute make up approximately 5-12% of the taxes taken out of your check. The rest actually go to the State in the form of infrastructure, state reps, etc. This is why it's so important to choose your senators/representatives carefully because you are literally, LITERALLY, paying them to serve your fucking interests. You HIRE them; they work FOR you. This is why voting in districts/communities actually matter a fuckton. Your taxes also pay the salaries of those lazy fucking people who work at government agencies. Finally, healthcare insurance + social security/SSH.

Stop blaming the welfare office or 'MUH NIGGERS' for your lack of cash the government takes. The Republicans consistently push this narrative and they do so explicitly, but if you look at the actual math, it's just fucking nothing.

If you're losing $150 bucks in taxes per check, only about 5 bucks of that is going to the welfare mama with 6 kids. But you guys are going to bitch about that welfare mama with 6 kids, not the $145 that's being spent on salaries of government employees that wipe their ass with your tears and the sweat of your brow.

t. GS Analyst.

[Anonymous No.2243970]

>>2243923
It's different, you pay for your gas and car for yourself, it's a transaction for yourself. When it's crowdfunding, that's not the case. You could pay or not pay, and if the goal is ever met you will use the roads regardless.

Nobody is gonna pay voluntarily to build roads.

>>2243940
>pay private companys to build roads.

See my earlier comment. What's it gonna be, a crowd-funded project? A monthly/yearly subscription to certain roads? A per-use toll fee? I would like to understand where you're coming from but you're gonna have to elaborate more.

[Anonymous No.2243977]

>>2239662
>>received my first paycheck when living alone and supporting myself
>Aaaaaand... I have immediately moved to a more right wing and all round bitter position.

Welcome to the real world, my friend.

Too bad it will be decades before all the Liberals move out of their parents basements and have to start supporting themselves.

I used to be a self entitled, know-it-all liberal in college also... but in my 20 years working, I've realized all my priorities and responsibilities actually align with the Republitards... and then we get Trump and now I'm partyless again... lol

[Anonymous No.2243984]

>>2239679
Fuck off with your free market bullshit, we need government intervention, because like you can clearly see in the cryptocurrency market for example, without government rules everyone is a fucking jew and everyone will try to rip eachother off

[Anonymous No.2243990]

>>2243977
>and then we get Trump and now I'm partyless again... lol

Well Trump just did many tax breaks for the top 1%, resulting in them saving up hundreds of billions of dollars. I wonder who's gonna pay for that :)

[Anonymous No.2243991]

>>2243977
>I used to be a self entitled, know-it-all liberal in college also... but in my 20 years working, I've realized all my priorities and responsibilities actually align with the Republitards... and then we get Trump and now I'm partyless again... lol

This is what you get for getting rid of Bernie and leaving the election between fucking Hillary & Trump.

[Anonymous No.2243996]

>>2243676
I'd like to see you and your friend build and mantain a PROPER road fag. Yeah, it's harder and more time consuming than you think asshat.

[Anonymous No.2244000]

>>2243922
No, it won't. Fucking retard.

4chan is full of fucking morons, I swear to God. I can't believe some of you can breathe.

Even if you suddenly breed out the 'low IQ' people, the IQ scale will be fucking reset by definition. Suddenly, people who were 100 IQ in this scale will become 85 IQ level, according to the newly revamped scale; those of 120 IQ will be located in the 100 IQ level roughly. In another 50 years, another retard will spout "we gotta get rid of the low IQ subhumans!" and the IQ scale will be reset..again.

Our IQs have steadily rose since the fucking 1800s. This isn't even statistically debatable; it is a fact.

Like think about what you're saying here. For once in your life, do some fucking research.

[Anonymous No.2244002]

>>2243960
>5-13% go to welfare
>only 5$ of 150$ go to welfare (3%)

good one, GS analyst kek

[Anonymous No.2244003]

>>2243960
You're a fucking moron. Your representatives don't make up nearly any portion of the budget. How about you look how much social security and Medicare and other entitlements make up the budget. Totally uneducated stupid opinion. Go fuck yourself.

[Anonymous No.2244011]

>>2243922
No when people get a lot of money they won't spend it on building roads, they will spend it on yachts and lambos, just look at the average mouthbreather on this board

[Anonymous No.2244019]

>>2243977
>I used to be a self entitled, know-it-all liberal in college also... but in my 20 years working, I've realized all my priorities and responsibilities actually align with the Republitards... and then we get Trump and now I'm partyless again... lol

History always repeats itself.

Hippies & flower children eventually grew up and matured into the cutthroat wall street sharks and Tech tycoons.

SJWs and Liberals will eventually grow up, and be productive as well... but not until mommy & daddy stops paying the bills & they're forced to be self sufficient.

[Anonymous No.2244028]

>>2243935
>Tolls on every road? Lol sounds nice. So what, it's a per-use fee or overall subscription allowing to use the road fee? Do we get the same thing for cops and firefighters? Everybody uses roads, not just "some" people.
>And let's say that the roads become economically unprofitable since there is very little traffic in some areas and the companies decide to give up, what then lol? Nobody to maintain those roads and cutting access to other areas of your countries? It's really a retarded idea, you gotta be more precise.

Whats so complicated about this concept?
People in rural areas where hardly anybody lives use to build their roads themselves.

Roads between citys, villages, shopping malls, you name it... are already here, build by taxation (read theft) in a very wasteful manner, like everything the gobernment touches.
The companys who build them would maintain them, like they the do now and they would be payed to do so, like the are being payed now.
the only difference would be, that there would be now (very, very) expensive state bureaucracy in between.

Further there are enough examples around the world were people build roads between their communitys without government interaction.

Maybe u would recognize that, if you start to pull your head out your ass.

[Anonymous No.2244038]

>>2243960

Das rite!

Welfare Niggers aint NEVA had it so good, like they did under Obama.

FREE SHIT NIGGAS!!!!

[Anonymous No.2244039]

>>2244003
It was an exaggeration, retard.
https://www.usatoday.com/story/money/personalfinance/2017/04/11/where-do-your-tax-dollars-actually-go/100116866/
>>2244003
http://conginst.org/2007/09/17/who-decides-how-much-to-pay-congress/

Where do you think the money comes from, you fucking idiot? It's indirect, but the tax payer still foots the bill. Do you think it's just generated?

Fucking idiot.

[Anonymous No.2244053]

>>2243960

You are right on one thing.

Niggers sure do love free shit from Obama!

[Anonymous No.2244059]

>>2244028
>Further there are enough examples around the world were people build roads between their communitys without government interaction.

mud roads don't count

[Anonymous No.2244072]

>>2244053
>Niggers sure do love free shit from Obama!

FUCK YOU RACIST WHITE BOY!

Give me my free food!

[Anonymous No.2244081]

>>2244000
>Our IQs have steadily rose since the fucking 1800s. This isn't even statistically debatable; it is a fact.

thanks for assisting my point

>>2244011
you don't sound like much of a /biz/nessman. obviously entrepreneurial types would build roads for people to use, and they would see a return on their investment in the form of tolls

[Anonymous No.2244087]

>>2244072

Looks like *some* of you blacks did pretty well under Obama...

Food stamp usage increasing by 58%?

Well done, Obama. Well done. :golfclap:

[Anonymous No.2244090]

>>2244038
Yeah, except you're missing the point.

We're talking about the amount those leeches get, not how many of them. Idiot.

Whites and Jews actually make up a disproportionate amount of welfare, but that's not discussed.
http://federalsafetynet.com/us-poverty-statistics.html

While it's true that blacks/hispanics far out-number whites insofar as their percentages, whites exceed the total amount of those in actual poverty if we're looking at the RAW figures/numbers.

Jews also are known to take an extraordinary amount of welfare and are known as welfare fraud experts. Every year, there's some shit in the news about Jews doing welfare fraud or scamming people in actual need.

[Anonymous No.2244098]

>>2243922
Nah humans can't be trusted to do that. We're greedy animals by nature, the only way to make us give up something for others is by having a strong authority or leader forcing us to do it, which is socialism or communism if extreme.

The only countries where you'll see people pay a big portion of their checks for their co-citizens and not go apeshit over it are all the advanced white socialist countries like Scandinavia, Canada and Australia.

>>2244028
>People in rural areas where hardly anybody lives use to build their roads themselves.

It ain't cheap bro. The local community will have to put a heavy tax on each member in order to fund it and maintain it.

>like they the do now and they would be payed to do so, like the are being payed now.

Who gonna pay? Not me for sure. How are people gonna pay? It's gonna go back to being some form of taxes or another. And what about poor people with shitty cars? They gotta pay same heavy price as others since maintaining roads aint cheap?

>if you start to pull your head out your ass.

I am giving you a chance to explain yourself but you're only giving simple ideas.

[Anonymous No.2244101]

>>2243960

Ooops... Facts!

[Anonymous No.2244102]

>>2244081
>you don't sound like much of a /biz/nessman. obviously entrepreneurial types would build roads for people to use, and they would see a return on their investment in the form of tolls

I'd rather have the government spending toll money on stuff like healthcare and education than a capitalist spending toll money on a yacht

[Anonymous No.2244103]

>>2243996

when i can afford a lambo, i can also afford to pay a company to build muh roads u retard.
my fellow anons whith their lambos will happy join and the same.

has government-brainwashing really gone this far, that even on /biz/ half of the people are so retarded, that they cannot imagine a life without being governed?

Btw, if a road isn't profitable enough and no one wants to build it, hell we'll fly.

[Anonymous No.2244108]

>>2244072
>>2244053
I'm not debating that.

In actual numbers, whites are composed of a larger number of welfare recipients. This is a fact. Statistically, any dime you get goes to an uneducated white single mom with 4+ kids. This isn't even debatable; it's just factual and purely mathematical. It's data at it's core.

Keep posting those pics in an attempt to dissuade from the main thesis of the conversation, though. You're doing great; /pol/ would be proud.

Fucking moron.

[Anonymous No.2244109]

>>2244102
I'm sorry, you can't be helped. into the heli with you

[Anonymous No.2244124]

>>2244101
Keep posting. I love seeing your retardation. It's great knowing retards like you will blow your brains out once you realize your life is garbage outside of a shiny screen.

[Anonymous No.2244127]

>>2244072

This is Obama's true legacy.

> 10 TRILLION dollars wasted, left for Millennials to pay off.
> Blacks are less educated, are working less, participate in the labor force less, have less home ownership, less real income

Holy shit if Obama wasn't black, he'd be lynched in the media like Trump.

[Anonymous No.2244137]

>>2244101

So in Obama's tenure, he not only doubled our National Debt, but also doubled our Welfare spending?

Job well done, Obama.

[Anonymous No.2244140]

>>2244103
Listen, I already told you to stop bullshitting with your "oh we gonna work together, volunteer" crap.

You hate this system because your taxes are used so that less fortunate and poor people can have access to the same living standards as you. What the fuck are poor people gonna do in your society? Where school, roads, and everything is same price for everyone and expensive?

Your whole argument revolves around the fact that you hate your money being used to help others, so don't fuck around by saying "hurrr durr we'll come together and work for the common good of everyone", you don't give a single fuck about anyone else but yourself.

[Anonymous No.2244147]

>>2244072

Why do you think so many blacks seriously regret voting Obama?

Even the BET is starting to criticize him on past policies.

[Anonymous No.2244165]

>>2244147
>talking to yourself on a kite-checking forum located in Taiwan

The heights of autism

[Anonymous No.2244177]

>>2244140
>less fortunate and poor people can have access to the same living standards as you.

You're an ignorant spoiled white fuck with zero sense of reality.

Coming from a poor country and having lived in abject poverty, the only thing you're creating with handouts is entitlement, dependency, and shit work ethics.

You want to help us? Stay out of our fucking way and we will climb up by ourselves.

I'm sick of fucking ignorant white liberals just masturbating thinking they're actually "helping" us poor minorities.

Fuck you liberals. Your stereotypes are just as bad as the ignorant west virginia rednecks.

Except they have some self awareness, being called racists. You 'merican liberals are just too ignorant to even realize your own racism & stereotypes.

[Anonymous No.2244192]

>>2244098
>>People in rural areas where hardly anybody lives use to build their roads themselves.
>It ain't cheap bro. The local community will have to put a heavy tax on each member in order to fund it and maintain it.
>>like they the do now and they would be payed to do so, like the are being payed now.
>Who gonna pay? Not me for sure. How are people gonna pay? It's gonna go back to being some form of taxes or another. And what about poor people with shitty cars? They gotta pay same heavy price as others since maintaining roads aint cheap?
>>if you start to pull your head out your ass.
>I am giving you a chance to explain yourself but you're only giving simple ideas.


So basically u're sayin u (and maybe others too) wont pay voluntarily for roads, but u like being forced to do so.

Stringent argumentation u have here, very nice.

People want stuff, people pay for stuff.
People want to use roads with their lambos, people pay road toll to companys who build/maintain roads or they build the roads themselves.

Whats so hard to grasp about this concept?
You try to over complicate a plain and simple thing like building a fuckin flat thing out of concrete and asphalt.

Especially rich and prospering areas, where lots of people with lots of lambos live would have very nice and expensive black ice.

People in rural areas, where companys dont want to build roads, cause no profits, people wouldn't drive lambos. they would drive pick ups.
Pick ups don't need black ice.
So a more simple concept of road would do fine there.

Whats next?
U want me to explain how to poo in loo?

[Anonymous No.2244237]

>>2244140

i never said any of that stuff u complete utter moron.
i said that people pay for stuff they need - voluntarily.

people too poor to afford a lambo have other problems than roads.

what about private railway companys. how did they manage to build muh rails without muh gobernment?
how revolutionary is the concept to buy a train ticket to use muh train without gobernment?

whats the difference between a private railwaycompany building rails and "force" people to pay for using their trains as transportation and a private road-building-company "forcing" people who use their roads to pay a toll?

how are even able to use such a complex thing as a windows-pc, when u fail to grasp such simple mechanisms as voluntarily paying for different transportation concepts?

[Anonymous No.2244320]

>>2244098
>Nah humans can't be trusted to do that. We're greedy animals by nature. The only way to make us give up something for others is by having a strong authority or leader forcing us to do it.

>Not realizing the "authority" or "leader" is also human.

[Anonymous No.2244364]

>>2244098
Compare a supermarket shelf in a free market where prices are set voluntarily to a grocery store shelf in Venezuela where there's a "strong authority" forcing price controls to "help the poor".

[Anonymous No.2244435]

>>2243984
you need to become the jew to make gains.

[Anonymous No.2244461]

>>2244177
Only whites can do effective self-sacrifice for each other. As I mentioned, in Canada, Australia, Scandinavia and some European countries, people already pay high taxes so that everybody can have higher standards of living and it's working. These countries have the highest standards of living in the entire world.

And guess what, they're all socialist. Your only chance of having a libertarian society is only in countries where socialism is present, that's pretty depressing huh?

>>2244192
>wont pay voluntarily for roads, but u like being forced to do so.

No, I'm saying that unless I'm forced to pay, I won't voluntarily pay.

>People want stuff, people pay for stuff.

I suggest you work as a government official to learn the price of maintaining public infrastructure and see if the average citizen can handle it without big companies paying taxes, lol it won't happen.

Sorry to announce it to you but the top 10% pays the majority of taxes. Create a system where there is no taxes and people by use, then your entire system will crumble down. Y'all need to learn some basic economics.

>>2244237
>private railway companys

Lol private railway companies in the US are a total failure. The US railways are really shitty compared to state-funded ones like in other countries.

>how revolutionary is the concept to buy a train ticket to use muh train without gobernment?

Buy a ticket to use the road each time? You will never see new roads built then, only maintained ones with tolls. Really shitty system.

>>2244320
>Not realizing the "authority" or "leader" is also human.

Some people are born followers and some are born leaders. It's basic human biology. Vast majority of people look for authority in life. Only someone with more authority than you can make you give up something of worth for others, people naturally will mostly not do it.

>>2244364
Don't use shitskin examples for socialism. Give them free market or socialism and they're still gonna fuck it up.

[Anonymous No.2244536]

>>2244364
>Compare a supermarket shelf in a free market where prices are set voluntarily

behind every example of free market success you will want to cherry pick there will be government policy operating invisibly behind it (eg, agricultural subsidies)

[Anonymous No.2244644]

>>2244536
No, agricultural subsides just fuck things up.

[Anonymous No.2245105]

>>2244461

There is no real privacy in a country, that is more socialistic than free market based.
Everything is regulated an taxed in the US, so u cannot compare a "private" railway today to statefunded railway company.
A far more accurate comparison would be a private railroadcompany from 1900 to a statefunded company today.

In 1900 there was little government intervention in private business and that freedom led to the golden 1920ies.

Taxation is theft is socialism is fuck off my property and neck urself commiescum.

[Anonymous No.2245159]

>>2244435
This. I learned this shit when my car got towed and I had to pay fucking $375 to get it back.
Not because I was parked in a bad place but because I was a patron of the neighboring store to the one whose parking lot I parked in.
Can't wait to run a fucking tow business and jew fucking everybody with $1000 fees and shit that people will pay.

[Anonymous No.2245168]

>>2244536

You really believe the big and bureaucratic government exists in your favor, right? Thats not some kind of 3D chess troll?
If you really believe that you're better off being a obedient servant, im ok with that.
But forcing others to do the same is no better than communism.
And communists must be purged u disgusting lefty scum.

[Anonymous No.2245171]

>>2243984
>get government intervention
>Yay, now only people with $10 million can participate in the ICOs
Nah, fuck government intervention.

[Anonymous No.2245180]

>>2245159
>but because I was a patron of the neighboring store to the one whose parking lot I parked in.
I don't get it, how did it result in your car being towed?

[Anonymous No.2245227]

>haha take a look at this minimum wage paycheck and how much they withheld haha I'm just like you conservatives now!

[Anonymous No.2245450]

>>2244108
Blacks make up 13-16% of the population. Ofcourse the overall numbers are higher for whites, they make up the most of the population.

[Anonymous No.2245485]

>>2243835
>implying that roads are free when the government builds them
Do all statists have brain damage?

[Anonymous No.2245495]

>>2243984
butthurt retard detected

[Anonymous No.2245503]

Heh, I'm only on £26k a year (after 7 fucking years, max pay grade in my job now), and the fuckers take over a third of my earnings.

[Anonymous No.2245539]

>>2244108
Something seems kinda off when you make up 12% of the population but take 26% of welfare benefits

[Anonymous No.2245548]

>>2243729
yea and people worked 120 hours a week and couldnt feed their families

[Anonymous No.2245561]

>>2245450
For now

[Anonymous No.2245588]

To all the plebs arguing about roads

The government builds roads because it has access to economies of scale. having a different private owner maintaining and collecting tolls on millions of different stretches of road would be inefficient. having large private companies doing it would lead to price gouging and potential monopolies on what most people consider a vital and public good

The government also has access eminent domain which allows roads to be built in the "right" places not the places that are cheap or devoid of holdout sellers

Government enterprises are also capable of running at a loss so in difficult times the roads can stay open even if they are not financially viable

TLDR government ownership corrects for market failures that occur when private companies control goods that people need constant access to

[Anonymous No.2245624]

>>2239662
unless you are making over 200k you are probably getting a lot more back than you are paying in

medicare and social security you will get back with interest (unless you die in your 50s) and the public services you use every day would certainly be more expensive in the hands of private companies than the 20-35% of your paycheck you lose in income tax

[Anonymous No.2245653]

>>2244177
this, the cancer runs deep on both sides from the sjws in san francisco to the the hillbillies in the appalachian mountains, fuck normies.

[Anonymous No.2245702]

>>2244177
>having access to roads and healthcare make me a lazy dependent fuck

k

[Anonymous No.2245757]

>>2244320
Buddy, i got 2 words that will blow ur mind.
Superintelligent
AI

[Anonymous No.2245784]

>>2244177
Nobody is climbing up in the third world you dumb fuck. We take their labour and increase value 50x through the commodity chain and then sell Nescafe back to them which they buy with their 1$ an hour coffee farming pay

[Anonymous No.2245934]

>>2240856
no fucken way he has 1million bitcoins

[Anonymous No.2245981]

>>2240856

(((Stefan Molyneux)))

https://blockchain.info/address/1Fd8RuZqJNG4v56rPD1v6rgYptwnHeJRWs

[Anonymous No.2246000]

>>2240909
>implying

I have relied entire on Farmer Joe's ETH tips and made money in the process, doing little to no actual work.

[Anonymous No.2246121]

>>2246000
Yeah I've been pretty lazy about it but it's really time I started looking at crypto twitters, really not going to get anywhere unless I trade.

[Anonymous No.2246265]

>tfw convincing poor plebs and wagecucks that you deserve more tax breaks than they do

You can't make this shit up.

[Anonymous No.2246338]

> this thread

/biz/ used to be entrepreneurial ancaps, libertarians and fiscally conservative right wingers with a ton of trolling and a few decent conversation and business ideas, now it's full of lifetime wagecucks and poor people coming from /pol/ and other shitholes to try and make a quick buck on this crypto bull run and they're bringing their poor people ideologies with them and wonder why they're not making money. Get back to your containment board commies and leave us ours.

[Anonymous No.2246354]

>>2243518
who builds the roads today? private businesses. we are only suggesting that the people that use the roads should pay for them.

[Anonymous No.2246367]

>>2245981
holy shit

[Anonymous No.2246380]

>>2245981
wow

[Anonymous No.2246391]

>>2245981
sugoi

[Anonymous No.2246403]

>itt sheltered ancap ideologues that have never taken econ 101
Literally leave and go live in Somalia. We don't want your kind here.

[Anonymous No.2246414]

>>2245168
government misallocates resources with their interference in the economy, the more they "help" the more damage is caused

[Anonymous No.2246519]

>>2239780
It will once you find out who was behind your Kek bullshit. And nope, it wasn't Russia.

[Anonymous No.2246544]

>>2239679
This.

[Anonymous No.2246595]

>>2246354
That's what the gas tax is. The more you drive the more you pay for the roads.

[Anonymous No.2246628]

>>2243765
This is kind of true. Your tax dollars only go to designing the road itself or upgrading, repairing, or expanding them. So you're basically paying for engineers and a bunch of middle men that deal with government regulations on how to accomplish that. Then, the plan goes for bid to private companies.

Those private companies are basically just liability for the government. For example, if you crash while driving on the road, you could sue the government for it. Except, those companies act as a barrier for that. If the company's products or work caused the crash, then the liability falls on the company rather than the government. Also, those potholes in your cities are regulated through your cities. Cities regulate city roads, state regulates state roads, Feds regulate interstate roads. Feds get taxes then allocate it to each state, and the money flows down, however they see fit.

[Anonymous No.2246638]

>>2246595
this is not optimal and we suffer unintended consequences for being forced to live this way and the opportunity cost is massive. in the future they will try to imagine how barbaric it must have been today. you don't need an overlord to micromanage your life

[Anonymous No.2246677]

>>2240280
College educated is not %1 not even close

[Anonymous No.2246692]

>>2245588
Fucking thank you, somebody that understands. All the libertarian retards would just not understand.... Especially the economic viable part, I mean if private companies don't make profit off roads are they gonna keep them up?

Nah, they're going to be neglected and destroyed. Government doesn't work that way though, why is which it's good to have the government insure that public goods and services are maintained despite not being economically viable if they were in the hands of private companies.

[Anonymous No.2246719]

>>2246638
It goes both ways anon. On one hand, the companies can do their bullshit, "let's get rid of people, buy subpar cheap materials, and increase productivity," or in other words, "let's make our employees work more for less and do everything half assed." Companies get very greedy. An example of the other side to that was the 2008 crash. Money stopped flowing into infrastructure (which was already declining over the years anyways) which caused those private companies/contractors to take a huge hit. A lot went out of business depending on what part of the country they were operating in. Looking at that long term, a long recession would mean our infrastructure around the country would look like Detroit.

[Anonymous No.2246783]

>>2239745
>You have more in common with a Muslim Uber driver
LET YOUR NATIONALITY DIE, GOY
LET THEM TAKE OVER YOUR COUNTRY, GOYIM

[Anonymous No.2246800]

>>2246783
/pol/ get the fuck out, go complain about far cry 5 or something else...

[Anonymous No.2246898]

>>2246783
do you people really take yourselves seriously? anyway, the state is a separate entity from us. the idea that "we are the government!" is a great propaganda breakthrough

[Anonymous No.2246919]

>>2245981

>500 BTC
>same thing as 1million BTC

retard alert

[Anonymous No.2246921]

>>2239745
He's right tho

[Anonymous No.2246937]

>>2244102
>Governments can't be corrupt

[Anonymous No.2246955]

>>2246800
>>2246898
They're either a newfag, shit posting, or controlled opposition, which is sadly the fate of most newfags/plebbit immigrants over the last year on this site. There's going to be a lot of butt hurt newfags on /pol and a lot of butt hurt Israelis once information starts flowing in. Give it time. JIDF never went away, they just changed tactics and it's been very effective thus far.

[Anonymous No.2246998]

>>2239745

Mostly this.

A good businessman who has a heart will end up being mostly Republican with some Democratic leanings.

[Anonymous No.2247014]

>>2239712

>hard working

I think you mean to say "smart working".

In terms of physical labor and stress the hardest working people are usually on the bottom.

[Anonymous No.2247042]

>>2245981
Wtf bitcoin funded Moloneux militia when?!?

[Anonymous No.2247052]

>>2247014
This. Illegals literally work 18 hour days with no bennies and the left is ok with this

[Anonymous No.2247080]

>>2247052
>he fell for the mexicans are hard workers meme

[Anonymous No.2247114]

>>2245981
>225 bitcoins
That's not even $1million

[Anonymous No.2247133]

>>2247080
In restaurants they are. LITERALLY 95% of cooks in any restruarant in any major city will be little mexicans paid as little as possible by the greedy chains and owners

[Anonymous No.2247618]

>>2246414
>all private citizens are rational and perfect decisions makers with infinite and unhindered access to capital and markets and their pursuit of self interest is always beneficial to themselves and everyone else and externalities dont exit

there are libertarians in this thread RIGHT NOW that actually believe this

[Anonymous No.2247631]

>>2239671
this, unfortunately.