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22337009 No.22337009 [Reply] [Original] [archived.moe]

>have my seed phrase written down
>isn't stored anywhere else
>worried about a housefire happening and all of my money literally burning along with it

any other way of backing it up?

>> No.22337021

>>22337009
Memorize it

>> No.22337213

>>22337009
Encrypted cloud, graphene, your mind

>> No.22337233

I have like 10 different seed phrases just sitting in desk draw in a house I share with room mates.

>> No.22337277

I keep my seed phrase on my fridge

>> No.22337329

>>22337009
send an email to yourself with a made up fictional story, and highlight or bold the word either to the left or right of one of the seed phrase words. dont bold the actual seed word, but whats next to it.

>> No.22337336

>>22337009
i keep my seed phrase in my anus

>> No.22337349

I named my kids after my seed phrases

>> No.22337353

>>22337009
Email it to me

>> No.22337367

>>22337009
Etch it into something that isn't flammable.

>> No.22337371

>>22337336
May I also keep my seed in your anus?

>> No.22337397

Email it to yourself on Gmail with 2FA enabled.

>> No.22337401
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22337401

>>22337009
just memorize it

>> No.22337419

>>22337329
Oh shit that's good

>> No.22337422

Cryptosteel .. google it

>> No.22337428

>>22337009
You can hammer out a metal plate with the seed phrase and put it in a safety deposit box.

>> No.22337449

>>22337009

Encrypt it using AES-256, back it up on multiple cloud providers. Use random sounding file names that disguise the fact it’s a seed phrase for extra obscurity. Back the encrypted file up on local media such as CD’s and HDD’s (no flash memory since it has higher chance of data loss). Store the encryption key in multiple locations that are separate from the encrypted files. Possibly go as far as burying it in a public location.

>> No.22337473

>>22337009
If you have enough crypto to be worried about this just buy a fireproof safe

>> No.22337495

>>22337449
Nigger, OP can’t even figure out the basics and you’ve got him hacking like a nerdy black kid in a current year blockbuster

>> No.22337503

>>22337009
I made a painting of my sneed phrase.

>> No.22337522

>>22337009
Laminate it. Make multiple copies. Buy multiple fire/water proof lockboxes. Keep one in house. Keep one buried in yard. Keep one burried in yard at parents house.

>> No.22337525

>>22337009
get an engraver from the hardware store and engrave it on some kind of inconspicuous metal object

>> No.22337544

>>22337495
For real dude what kind of schizo advice is that

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>>22337522

>> No.22337579

>>22337449
But anon idk anything about encryption so im terrified of using it almost as much as the idea of uploading my seed phrase to the cloud unencrypted

>> No.22337583

>>22337552
Extra points if you split the seed phrase into 2/3, so that you require any two of the three laminated documents to access.

>> No.22337591

>>22337021
>>22337213
>>22337449
if you know how to, these are the best options


Putting your private seed somewhere unencrypted is not a risk I would take

>> No.22337642

>>22337009
put a copy in a safe deposit box. You can encrypt it with a simple algorithm you can do by hand for extra security

>> No.22337658

i have it tattoed in between my buttcheeks

>> No.22337660
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22337660

isn't it dumb as hell to use these?

wouldn't be better to literally use any blank paper/steel/whatever instead that doesn't say IMPORTANT DOCUMENT VERY CONFIDENTIAL?

>> No.22337664

>>22337642
Get safety deposit boxes at two different banks. Split your key between them.

>> No.22337687

>>22337009
>what is a safe deposit box

>> No.22337695

>>22337660
it is dumb as hell to write it down anywhere unencrypted.
Are you stupid anon?
Only my grandparents put their passwords on a post-it note on their desk.

>> No.22337729

Is storing it in a password manager like keepass a bad idea

>> No.22337738

>>22337660
Write a story or poem utilising the phrase words in a set structure so that people think it is just nonsense. Or underline/circle words within a book/dictionary, again, utilising a structure so that the phrase word is for example always the word three words to the left of the circled word.

>> No.22337741

>>22337009
i keep my seed phrase in a fireproof safe

>> No.22337760

>>22337729
Yeah you should not have it typed out anywhere unless a computer that has never been online

>> No.22337762

>>22337738
Put said dictionary in a safety deposit box. Redundancy is important. Remember that two is one and one is none. Banks can still burn down.

>> No.22337786

>>22337741
This is what I do. Anything else is overkill. Really everyone is so paranoid

>> No.22337826

if someone comes across your seed phrase lets say and knows what it is, you're fucked right? even if they don't know you use metamask, ledger etc.

>> No.22337828

>>22337786
>Just because you're paranoid doesn't mean they aren't after you.

>> No.22337866

Tattooed on my asshole

>> No.22337916

>>22337826
yeah they can use it and go to myetherwallet or something and login and take all your shit.

>> No.22337942

You can buy a fireproof chest at walmart for like $60 anon. Or a metal wallet for $60-125. Either one would work.

>> No.22338059

write it down then encrypt it in a veracrypt container with a long long passphrase. If I die my crypto dies with me.

>> No.22338067

>have to remember 14 word seed phrase for money
>have to jump through multiple hoops to get $ in bank account or $ in crypto exchange
>have to remember passwords for above websites
>have to buy safes, usb sticks, laminate paper to safekeep seed phrase

>the future

>> No.22338079

>>22337449
OP dont listen to this nigga. If you can store it on a CD and have it save from being burned you can literally write with permanent marker on the damn cd like god damnit.
>>22337009
Nigger just learn basic pottery and engrave the seed pass into a pot if you're so schizo. I have my seedphrase wrapped in aluminium foil and then plastic foil(water damage)and then taped into my kickdrum. Jesus christ its not hard.

>> No.22338099

>>22337329

this guy gets it

>> No.22338130

>>22337009
>>22337449
I just thought of another genius way. Webcam yourself pretending youre making a retarded YouTube video but the story is actually about your seed phrase. Then convert it knto VHS and send it to tosh.o for funny home videos then hope they upload it to YouTube so you can remember

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22338156

>>22337009
OP, get one of these. A titanium plate and you use a metal stamping kit to engrave your seed on it. Good luck burning this.

Nobody else in this thread has heard of this? No wonder you’re all fucking poor

>> No.22338168

>>22338067
This is why there's things like idena and kleros that are looking to verify you are the owner of a private seed. So you can do decentralised password recovery and shit

>> No.22338182

>>22337522
Hi Son, what you doing with that shovel?

>> No.22338183

>>22337942
It all depends on how much money you have invested in crypto. Would you feel comfortable with $10-20k cash in that same lockbox? Would you feel alright with $100k in a fireproof safe? What about those people on biz who have upwards of $500k in crypto? Personally I believe that your level of security/redundancy should take into account what amount of funds you are trying to protect. Also consider what you would do/how you would access your funds if you had to leave your home with no preparation and no way to return.
My personal way of protecting my private keys is a multilayered approach with multiple wallets.

>> No.22338202

>>22338156
>Ordering something so they can trace where you live and steal your dogecoin
Ngmi

>> No.22338214

>>22338067
You can protect funds that nobody, either government or ex-wife etc can take from you in any way. Try doing that with fiat or your bank account.

>> No.22338218

>>22338183
>if you had to leave your home with no preparation and no way to return.
This is honestly the reason why I stopped being so consoomer and started minimizing my belongings

>> No.22338241

>>22338214
>Try doing that with fiat
Uh... Fiat is not that hard to do it with senpai. Hardware fiat that is

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>>22337336
Truly super stinky linkies

>> No.22338274

Write a complicated email to yourself that uses all the words in that order, but with some way to tell which words are the key ones, like maybe the word before has a misspelling or the word after is unnecessarily capitalized.

>> No.22338283

>>22337009
Take multiple pictures using disposable camera's or film cameras and save the the film.

>> No.22338309

>>22338182
>I accidentally killed someone and I need to dispose of the body. Can you help me?
Really test out your old mans love for you.
But in all truth, who doesn't know when your parents are away for the weekend.

>> No.22338393

>>22337866
>goes to jail for tax evasion
>gets bent over by Tyrone
>Tyrone memorizes the phrase from all the times he buttraped anon
>Tyrone gets out before anon

Thanks white boy

>> No.22338414

I keep my seed in my balls

>> No.22338765

>>22338218
Here is my hint as to how I protect my key and it allows you to hide it in plain sight, phone, email and computer without risk.
Get yourself a book, for example James Joyces Ulysses, or Sir Arthur Conan Doyle's Hound of the Baskervilles. Find your seed phrase words in said book. Circle the word to their right or left. Write down as follows (you can freely type this and save it on your computer):
Wallet Number-No. of seed phrase word (1-24)-Page Number (0001)-Circled word number from start of page. It will look like this after. 11002816 12086718 etc. Freely write these numbers wherever you want. All you need to remember is the book and that your word is not actually the circled word but the one next to it or three words away etc.
No one will be able to access it. You can freely send the numbers to multiple fake email addresses. Save them in the cloud. Save copies on your phone and computer. Write them on your fridge. Tattoo them on your arm. Post them on message boards.
Even if I was stuck in a foreign country, as long as the internet exists, I could purchase a copy of my chosen book and determine my seed phrase (most of these books are available online for free).

>> No.22338782

>>22337009
put it in a safety deposit box you mong.

>> No.22338801

store it an email like proton mail with some sort of code breaker. Dont use this email for anything else.

>> No.22338816

>>22337277
Based

>> No.22338959

>>22338765
I might actually start setting up wallets with 0.5 eth in them doing this utilising random books and start posting the codes here on biz to see how long it takes people/if anyone can access it. Might even give them the book name to make it easier.

>> No.22339153

Holy fuck, you guys are insane with trying to secure your seed phrases. I only have a couple of thousand in crypto and all what I did was take a screenshot of my seed phrase on my phone and laptop and just forgot about it.

>> No.22339169

Get 24 thumbdrives anon

Use a PC that has never been connected to the Internet before. Pop in each thumbdrive and create a text file with one word on each drive. Destroy your PC physically. Mail each thumbdrive to 24 family members.

>> No.22339182

>>22339153
your ip address so i can send you some ethereum sir

>> No.22339214

>>22337009
I wrote mine on the back of a stop sign by my place of work

>> No.22339217

>>22337329
Dont fucking do this
>be rakneesh, hack anon’s email
>oh one of those bad burger crypto wallet txts
>let me just try the words to the left and right of the bold
Before you do anything, try to break your system first. Good idea though, just keep breaking it in your head so someone else doesn’t.

>> No.22339227

Seed phrases are dumb. I'll just write a script to generate and input a string of words and I'll be bound to get into your wallets sooner or later.

>> No.22339261

>>22337419
>>22338099
Better than most but DO NOT DO THIS LIKE THIS! REMEMBER THE WAROSU. JEETS WILL PARSE FOR IDEAS. BREAK YOUR OWN SYSTEM

>> No.22339314
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>>22339227
>I'll be bound to get into your wallets sooner or later.
HAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAH BASED RETARD

>> No.22339327

>>22337336
I hope the joggers don’t notice it while they’re down there licking

>> No.22339347

>>22339327
He should be fine, they can't read.

>> No.22339401

>>22339314
Jogger Pineapple Mash Private Ascending Bunny Television Wood Third Macho Zebra Tornado Alexander Yuppie Year Million Tractor Select Dancer Patter Minnesota Logan

BOOM 2500 BTC wallet hacked just like that. Smell ya later!

>> No.22339456

>>22339401
wtf 1 word off..

>> No.22339661

>>22338765
>he doesn’t realize there any many different editions in press
Welp

>> No.22339734

literally the easiest, most secure way:

Pick the largest consecutive string of words that make sense. Memorize it. It may be good to re-roll the wallet a couple times.

print 3 copies of the seed phrase, but blank out those words with random underspaces. The computer has to brute force num_words^length but you remember [length] number of words in 1 sentence, which hopefully isn't hard.

>> No.22339749

>>22337009
fireproof chest, they are like $50 on amazon. hide it in your closet

>> No.22339792

>>22339734
in reality none of this obstruction matters. If crypto becomes big, someone will threaten your life or your loved ones and make you retrieve the phrase, rendering your techniques useless. Maybe sabotage your business or computer files.

So the biggest safety measure you can take is know how to deal with kidnapping, ransom, and blackmail.

>> No.22339842

>>22338765
>Even if I was stuck in a foreign country, as long as the internet exists, I could purchase a copy of my chosen book
Welp now we know your technique we cant.

>> No.22339902

>>22337009
yikes at these suggestions, um I dunno but have you thought about actually just storing them on coinbase? ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

>> No.22339965

>>22339842
You can choose nearly any book. I wouldnt list the actual book I utilise, just two good examples. Could use harry potter or lord of the rings.

>> No.22340011

>>22337233
Consider fixing this

>> No.22340042

>>22337397
Don't do this.

>> No.22340061

>>22337009
Tattoo your private see on your gooch.

>> No.22340143

>>22337009
Engrave it on fire resistant metal plates.
You can buy these kinds of things for crypto specific use.
However you better not travel and go through an X-ray scanner with this.

>> No.22340496

>>22337009
>create a blank text file on my computer
>once a day, add 50 completely random words to the text file and save
>do this for about 20 days until I have a huge mass of 1,000 random words in the text file
>start up the hardware wallet for the first time then get my 24-word recovery seed
>write it down on a piece of paper
>after that, once a day type out 50 random words to add onto the text file, except one of those words is actually one of the words from the recovery seed
>repeat this for 23 more days until all 24 words from the list are now in the text file
>all 24 words are now placed in a certain pattern among the mass of hundreds of other random words in the text file, so that only I would be able to pick out the right words in the right order from the text file by memorizing that certain pattern, as opposed to memorizing random words
>doing all of the above in the mentioned particular order/method, in case my computer has a keylogger or is being remotely monitored
>zip and password-protect text file with a simple password with numbers and special characters that I can easily remember
>store several copies of the zipped text file in several forms of storage, online and offline; this way if my computer hard drive fails then I have it under my email, if I lose my email then I have it on my flash drive, if my flash drive stops working then I have it on my external storage/cloud, etc.
>destroy the paper with the 24-word recovery seed on it
Problem solved, motherfucker
Kek at keeping what may be the most important passphrase you'll ever have on a physical thing that can either be lost, destroyed or stolen

>> No.22340520

i used high resolution picture to store my seed phase. only way to know is zooming in.

>> No.22340623

>>22337583
Imagine an Indiana Jones style movie about trying to find a anons seed phrase

>> No.22340832

>>22339792
seems like a good point to add itt to also know when to shut the fuck up about things. good not to brag about crypto, somebody might remember in a few years from now if it becomes big

>> No.22340889

Can’t you just Zip archive it with aes-256?

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>>22337009
The best way is to hide it in some kind of puzzle (I won't detail further than this, think of something). Then put copies of that puzzle into a folder that looks like a kids folder or something, encrypt it, upload it to cloud storage and put on multiple computers. Leave the first seed word out of the puzzle and write that one down everywhere/burn it into your memory so even if someone where to hack the folder and figure out what was there they still couldn't decipher it.

>> No.22341048

>>22340983
that monkey trades better than 90% of biz

>> No.22341103

>>22340520
> he doesn't know about OCR

>> No.22341111

Keep mine next to my nugjar and bowl in my undie drawer on a shitty piece of paper

>> No.22341281

>>22339792
even better, never let anyone know you have a nontrivial amount of crypto

>> No.22341344

>>22339734
if they have some public addresses belonging to your seed, brute forcing becomes much easier
sounds like a lot of effort and not very safe.

>> No.22341391

>>22337009
Engrave it on metal

>> No.22341432

>>22338067
That's the cost of privacy.

>> No.22341458

>>22337329
You’re a mad dog

>> No.22341481

>>22338067
>>22341432
the cost of being an early adopter. don't worry before 2030 you'll have cozy banks who'll take care of all that for boomers. it's just that those bitcoins might cost 10m each by then

>> No.22341492

>>22337009
Lastpass

>> No.22341508

>>22337329
if you only ever did it yourself, it'd be an okay method. now that you've written it on the internet it's absolute trash dont do this anyone

>> No.22341510

>>22337009
>any other way of backing it up?
Is the CIA good for America?

>> No.22341557

>>22337583
You were doing so well with the advice... Don't do this, seed splitting is stupid.

>> No.22341589

Why don't you brainlets just memorise your seed phrase.

It's only 24 words how hard is it.

>> No.22341638

>>22337009
i just emailed it to myself lol. you guys too fucking paranoid, do you hear about peoples multi-billion dollar brokerage accounts getting stolen? no? then dont worry abouy your 5-6 figures of shitcoins lol.

>> No.22341639

Write it on the back of a picture and keep it in your wallet last

Write it down and put it somewhere in your mom's house she will never find or tell her so she won't touch it

Tattoo

Make a souncloud account and title alll the songs accordingly

>> No.22341645

>>22337009
I wrote mine on the bottom of the rocks in my fish tank.

>> No.22341659

>>22341638
ye i posted it on my facebook wall and also on some friends' so i don't forget / lost it even if my account gets locked

>> No.22341677
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22341677

>learn multiple languages
>write your seed phrase down using a mix of foreign words
>make a few copies and keep them in safe places
>also make a few fakes and leave them just laying around in obvious places

>> No.22341694

>>22341638
One is reversible, the other is not

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22341699

>>22338393
I don’t know what I expected

>> No.22341719

>>22341677
>robber in your home
>finds fake plates
>tries them, takes no time on a laptop
>searches in safe place
>uses translate.google.com with detect language feature on words
>o shit

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22341757

>>22341719
>implying a basic bitch jogger who breaks into homes will even know what to do with a seed phrase, let alone take time to try it out on the spot

>> No.22341770

>>22337009
You could also buy books, each beginning with the word of your phrase, and arrange on your bookshelf.

>> No.22341774

>>22341757
okay my method is 10,000x safer and simpler but sadly the more people know about a method like this the less safe it becomes so soz but no sharing

>> No.22341787

>>22341774
10,000x was an extreme understament. it's more 10^3452x safer

>> No.22341800

>>22337021
this
make a gay little song and memorize it.
Take your links to the grave.

>> No.22341828

these are mostly retarded.
Most of these methods dont add nearly as much security as you think, causing you to let you guard down and then put your (badly) obfuscated seed phrase on your computer and cloud storage. it will get brute forced if you do this.

some rules:
keep it offline.
keep it in the form of your 24 words
treat is as the nuclear codes to your wealth - create multiple copies and store them securely.

stamp on metal plates and hide one in an innocent place in your house, your parents house, possibly a third location thats in a property you own.
Now that the phrase is only in meatspace, you only have to worry about people irl knowing to look for a seed phrase, so:
dont tell anyone you own crypto (otherwise an attacker will just beat you with a pipe until you tell them, doesnt matter how encrypted it is)
hide your phrase somewhere inside where no thief would ever look

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22341855

>>22340623
>raiders of the lost wallet

>> No.22341910

reminder to use a passphrase in addition to your seed

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>>22337009
>didn’t tattoo it on the back of his head

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>>22338202
mine is buried out back, gl only 40 acres to search

>> No.22341998

>>22341828
>hide your phrase somewhere inside where no thief would ever look
Worth having a decoy wallet with only a small but sizeable amount in it.
Reveal this first, hopefully they buy it

Ideally decoy meatspace words
And memorise true account words

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>>22337009
>new folder
>new folder
>new folder
>new folder
>homework
>text file with seed phrase

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>>22342079
so next to my porn?

>> No.22342639

>>22340496
This one seems like a good one
Someone tell me what's the flaw in this one. How can a hacker tell which 24 words out of 1000 words are the seed phrase?

>> No.22342789

>>22337729
No. Unless you are a VIP / person of interest.

>> No.22342832

>>22337329
Except seed words can only be specific words so they can search the email for any words in the list of possible seed words.

>> No.22342870

>>22337009
Just remember it bro

>> No.22342901

>>22339153
>App would like to access your Photos

>> No.22342923

>>22341281
This. "I fucking sold all my LINK at $4 man"

>> No.22342973

>>22342639
You have to use these words (depending on blockchain)
https://github.com/bitcoin/bips/blob/master/bip-0039/english.txt

And his method can be done in a single day.

>> No.22343211

>>22342973
Wait a minute, so the hardware wallet only picks the 24-word seed from this list of 2000 words?
I thought it issued completely random words from the more than 150k words in the English language
So what's stopping someone from finding a wallet/keystore and just brute-forcing combinations from this 2000-word list to access someone's wallet? Shouldn't that be possible and not take very long?

>> No.22343228

>>22342639
>>22340496

maybe being retarded but I don't follow it to be honest

Assuming that all the 'random' words used are valid words (bip-0039)....

If you're putting a seed word in the same position in the 50 words every day or in any sort of easily remembered pattern then it could be bruted by someone trying all manners of elementary patterns

If not then you've still got to remember the pattern or the words which you might forget

Why are you taking 44 days to do this? If it's to avoid a keylogger then just do it on an offline machine

>> No.22343240

>>22337009
Get a tattoo on your ass.

>> No.22343243

>>22337695
Writing passwords down nowadays is one of the safest places you can keep it. You one of those "let google remember my bank information, it's cool!" types?

>> No.22343260

>>22338156
I did this but the stamper I got was shit so I spent another $10 on an engraver and it was much better.

>> No.22343263

>>22343211

A random guess is something like 2000 raised to the 24th power. Today's computer's can't brute force that in any reasonable amount of time.

>> No.22343369

>>22337009
Just put in the cloud storage like google drive retarded

>> No.22343431

Tattoo it on your crotch

>> No.22343448

>>22343228
>If you're putting a seed word in the same position in the 50 words every day or in any sort of easily remembered pattern then it could be bruted by someone trying all manners of elementary patterns
So let's say for example that my birthday is September 14th, i.e. 9-14
And my phone unlock code is 2-4-6-8
Both of these are burned into my brain
So putting them together, that's 9-14-2-4-6-8
What if, within a mass of random-order bip-0039 list of 2000 words that I type out myself, at some point I put one of my seed words as the 9th word in the list, then the next seed word as the 14th word after that, and so on while repeating that same 9-14-2-4-6-8 pattern, until all 24 seed words are in?
Can someone still somehow detect that pattern, and all those seed words via brute force?

>> No.22343515

>>22338067
You forgot to tell us to just use the (((banking system))) Mr. Shekelberg

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>>22337009
This, some stainless steel and a hammer.

>> No.22343664

>>22337422
Super expensive. Just buy some punch letters.

>> No.22343678

>>22337021
This isn't reliable. Head injury, drugs or rogue prions could erase it.

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>>22337009
fireproof safe

>> No.22343700

>>22337009
I went to a tattoo parlor and have 90% of my private keys tattooed on my left but cheek. The other 10% I have in my head.

>> No.22343717

cryptotag

>> No.22343745

>>22337009
i hide mine inside my dogs butthoole

>> No.22343761

>>22339153
This nigga doesn't realize his crypto can moon and then some random shitware will steal his phrase and money. ngmi.

>> No.22343861

>we know he has linkies go hit him with this wrench until he gives us the right password
retards

>> No.22343922

>>22342639
>>22340496
>create a blank text file on my computer
on your computer = vulnerable to attackers
>once a day, add 50 completely random words to the text file and save
>do this for about 20 days until I have a huge mass of 1,000 random words
they wont be random. humans are terrible at actually being random.
>start up the hardware wallet for the first time then get my 24-word recovery seed
>write it down on a piece of paper
why not just stop here, you have a seed offline and secure. tuck it in the first page of your favorite porno mag that you hide under the bed.
>once a day type out 50 random words to add onto the text file, except one of those words is actually one of the words from the recovery seed
>repeat this for 23 more days until all 24 words from the list are now in the text file
>all 24 words are now placed in a certain pattern among the other random words in the text file, so that only I would be able to pick out the right words in the right order from the text file by memorizing that certain pattern, as opposed to memorizing random words
honestly it'd be easier to memorize the random words than the pattern. Plus, the random words you type in to the file would have to be from the same worlist as seed words, otherwise i could just extract words from your file that are on the wordlist & i'd have your seed.
> in case my computer has a keylogger or is being remotely monitored
hence keeping it offline
>zip and password-protect text file with a simple password with numbers and special characters that I can easily remember
if this is secure, just zip & password protect (assuming the encryption is secure) your actual seed in a txt doc, memorize the encryption key - this is what OGs do with wallet.dat

>> No.22343989

>>22343922
>>zip and password-protect text file with a simple password with numbers and special characters that I can easily remember
elaborating on this, if the password is simple, it's not secure, so you may as well not do it.
This is what i mean when i say you'll trick yourself into thinking you seed is secure just because the process sounds complicated to a human.
the password will need to be at least 128 bits of randomness, which would look something like this length:
>7bb1-c1a5-a566-8d4d-3f23-48e1-6164-f24d
again, if you cant memorise that, and you're going to have to write it down, you may as well have just written your seed down and kept it.

If the attack vector youre guarding against is a keylogger, keep it offline. Then just keep your crypto anonymous & youre protected from people trying to find a seed phrase in your apt.

>> No.22344245

>>22338067
freedom ain't free son

>> No.22344334

>>22337009
Put it in in keepass and make sure you make a backup and put it somewhere safe in case your computer shits the bed

>> No.22344343

>>22339217
>Before you do anything, try to break your system first
t. wizard

>> No.22344373

>>22337009
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steganography_tools

>> No.22344513

>>22337009
make a series of threads with the first word of each thread one of your seed words, save all the threads in a zip and email them. If anyone finds it you are just a schizo from /biz/

>> No.22344549

>>22337009
Tattoo it on the inside of your bottom lip like wiggers used to do.

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>>22337329

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