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22303313 No.22303313 [Reply] [Original]

First CLSAG transaction has been performed on the testnet. Only a month or so till the next hardfork and upgrade.

>> No.22303525
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>>22303313
Everything is falling into place. XMR has fared well during this sell off. Very comfy rn

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Stealthy FoXMR

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Monkeyro

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Monerangutan

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borb

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Moneronica

>> No.22304544

Anons, if you have any inquiries, please post a reply and a Monero representative will be with you shortly.

>> No.22304601

explain recent FUD/rumors on monero blockchain analysis.

>> No.22304639

>>22304601
CipherTrace is exaggerating their capabilities. If you dig deeper you can take a good guess at why:
>The announced work in part satisfied a US government contract, with Mr. Jevans acknowledging in the press release, “we are grateful for the support of the Department of Homeland Security’s Science & Technology Directorate on this project.”
https://www.monerooutreach.org/news/ciphertrace-monero.html

>> No.22304663

I like monero, can buy drugs and guns lol.

>> No.22304674

>>22303313
>$81

>> No.22304675

>>22304601
Cash grab by CioherTrace to entice hopeless government agencies into giving them gubmit contracts. There analysis is dependent entirely on metadata which also illustrated diminishing returns if the user cycles funds multiple times. Basically, you can be traced by having shit-tier OpSec. It was just click-bait FUD that doubled as a sales pitch to three-letter agencies. See Sarang’s interview with Dave from CipherTrace for more info.

>> No.22304716

Über currency. Superior to bitcoin

>> No.22304723

>>22304674
Tail emission has yet to begin. Dumbass BTC drags everything down and sucks up interest via network effect. As people realize its useless outside of a collectible, it will die and XMR will replace it.

>> No.22304939

>>22304639
Why doesn't CipherTrace simply *prove* that they can trace a transaction? I mean, you do some transactions from different wallets, and then ask CipherTrace to determine who did transation X... I don't understand why such proof is not requested by the Monero community. CipherTrace wouldn't have to reveal any of their "secret algorithms", just to prove their claims.

>> No.22304965

what is clsag

>> No.22305013

>>22304939
That info has been requested by Sarang and the rest of the team. No response from their “math guy” yet... if ever.

>> No.22305044

>>22304939
This is precisely why I think CipherTrace's claims are bogus. Monero developers were friendly enough to sit down and have an interview with CipherTrace's CEO, but the CEO ultimately just made himself look like a fool. There's not any significant hostility from the community as a whole, it's just skepticism because CipherTrace wont prove their claims.

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22305054

Obligatory Monero Waifu post

>> No.22305064

>>22305013
>>22305044
Haha, of course they won't! Thanks.

>> No.22305080

Are the monero dev in touch with the haven (XHV) ones ?

>> No.22305090

>>22303313

if you guys hardfork every two seconds doesn't that mean it's a centralized currency lmao

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>>22303313
writing on the wall.
transaction count all-time high.
biggest bitcoin market is gone leaving white house, a monero-dominated one to take its place.
/comfy/

>> No.22305181

>>22305090
We use hardforks to implement upgrades and improvements. The community has historically followed along because there have been no significantly disagreeable proposals that compromise privacy.

>> No.22305183

>>22305090
I must respectfully disagree. Near unanimous consent exists in Monero... BTC? Not so much. If Monero users didn’t approve of changes, they’d just stick with the old fork. Your post makes me think you don’t understand the nature of forking.

>> No.22305220

>>22304601
they're trying to pajeet governments into giving them lucrative contracts for a tool that really doesn't do jack-shit
buy monero while it's still 2-digits anon
>>22305090
the hard-forks are more symbolic than required at each update. the community anticipates it for years now, it has been positive for development. if you wish you can always use XMO ;)

>> No.22305410

>>22305181
>>22305183

it's a privacy tool and isn't good money if you have to constantly hardfork. good luck holding off the asic's. also, if you can't get a large market cap because people don't trust the constant forking, who is going to use it for anything other than small payments? oh did i mention lightning network has privacy?

it's just another shitcoin to accumulate bitcoins u deluded mongrels

>> No.22305440

>>22305410
Oh god it's a retarded Bitcoin maxi. Enjoy getting your money stolen by Adam Back, boomer. BCash = Bitcoin (although both are shit)

>> No.22305500

>>22305410
>hardforking BAD for privacy
Again, it is adopted widely by the community. Why do you insist on thinking a fork is bad? Are you traumatized by BTC politics? How can I trust BTC when over 50% of the global hashrate is in China?
>LN privacy
Lightning network can have nodes compromised by adversaries.

>> No.22305513

>>22305440

lmaooo whatever you say shitcoiner, one day you'll learn

>> No.22305549

>>22305410
Also, hard forks are more decentralized than soft forks. A hard fork produces a second chain that detractors can continue to use. A soft fork is tyranny.

>> No.22305565

>>22305500

confirmed never guna fuckin get it. why are your guys skulls so fucking thick?

i get it man, you want your low cap alt coin to moon so you can sell for fiat like a pleb

>> No.22305569

>>22305513
The other way around my friend. Bitcoin's only useful for trading

>> No.22305595

>>22305565
Use facts not feelings MaxiPad :)

>> No.22305602

>>22305549

i get that you need newbs to believe a lot of bullshit so they will buy your bags, but please get a brain

>> No.22305620

>>22305602
Yeah keep bumping the thread lmao. You might wanna stop, people will see the logo, do research and figure out that your shitcoin has no future aside from being taken over by banks.

>> No.22305627

this thread is making me want to sell my monero because you guys are actually THIS fucking dumb

>> No.22305648

>>22305620

that's so fucking weird because it's actually the one coin that has proven in the wild it's resistant to takeover unlike your hardfork central tokens kek

>> No.22305652

>>22305627
go ahead and sell

>> No.22305687

>>22305602
Hey, I think we’ve had a lovely discussion. I haven’t lied to you once and outlined the main difference between a hard fork and a soft fork. When atomic swaps between XMR and BTC go live, you are welcome to join us in the one true digital cash. Until then, I hope your BTC moons, your transaction fees crater, and your verification times shorten. I’ll be in Moneroland, comfy af. Love you, Anon <3

>> No.22305689

>>22305410
>good luck holding off the asic's
we already kicked them off the network....
>did i mention lightning network has privacy?
optional privacy isn't real privacy. privacy will never be implemented for bitcoin; if you can't even agree on block-size what makes you think rolling out true, default protocol-level privacy will happen? not to mention the many, many vested interests that would lose money if it DID become anonymized (see: literally anyone doing chain analysis)
do you want me to go on? honestly there isn't a need to be maxi on either coin. full disclosure I own both BTC and XMR. I just think Monero is severely undervalued :)

>> No.22305724

>>22305687

you've had years and years to understand this shit anon, i really truly feel sorry for you :(

i'll sell my monero when it 5x-10x in bitcoin terms- it's only true long term use case rofl

>> No.22305748

>>22305689

i'm not in the mood to go through shitcoiner logic at the moment. i hold both coins as well and i get that you shillers need to market your alt coins.

but don't be deluded into thinking the only use case for monero isn't just accumulating bitcoin

>> No.22305774

it's afraid

>> No.22305807

>>22305774

yes we are super duper afraid of a $1b market cap shitcoin that is constantly hardforking and has an unknown supply and will never be able to get asic's off the network.

sounds like great money to hold long term kek

>> No.22305826

not even worth replying to lmao. get lost loser

>> No.22305852

>>22305826

hi i'm here to ruin your fun shilling to newbs

>> No.22305876

>>22303313
WHEN THE FUCK IS TARI COMING OUT NIGGERS

>> No.22305901

>>22305876
Nobody knows, it's probably never coming sadly

>> No.22305975

>>22305901

huge developer team wow

definitely not centralized with a half dozen devs

>> No.22306188

>>22304506
fucking lol

>> No.22306194

>>22305876
They have weekly meetings and it is definitely going to come out at some point. But like monero, they aren’t trying to draw attention to themselves through marketing.

>> No.22306289

>>22305807
>will never be able to get asic's off the network.
as oppose to most other coins and btc, which you know, have the same asics (spoiler: randomX did kick asics off retard)

>> No.22306291

Feelin' like Pablo Escobar over here with my Monero

>> No.22306335

>>22306289
excuse me, i'm a retard, but how does one kick asics off the network?

>> No.22306363

>>22306335
Look up randomX

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>mfw biggest alt bag
mein kampfiest hodl

>> No.22306421

>>22306289

(spoiler: that's inconclusive and even your own devs admit it)

(spoiler #2: anybody can manufacture a bitcoin asic)

(spoiler #3: GPU's or whatever dumb shit you guys are using means the miners don't have skin in the game)

literally WHEN will you fuck heads get it KEK!????

>> No.22306444

>>22306335

you don't, they just made an algorithm that is supposedly resistant for a longer period of time than 2-3 months but even their own devs admit it's not a long term solution kek

>> No.22306469

>(spoiler #2: anybody can manufacture a bitcoin asic)
>(spoiler #3: GPU's or whatever dumb shit you guys are using means the miners don't have skin in the game)
What the actual fuck are you talking about? You're literally contradicting yourself. First you claim that anyone can mine Bitcoin and then you say that miners for some reason NEED to have "skin in the game". All that matters is the amount of energy being used to maintain network security.

>> No.22306470

>>22306444

noob post continued:

it all stems from a misunderstanding about the game theory of bitcoin and asic's being a bad thing for some reason (hint: it's so they can shill you an alt coin)

>> No.22306491

>>22306469

you're a fucking retard noob go away.

>> No.22306503

>>22306469
It’s just another BTC maxi grasping at straws and projecting their rage for BTC dev team impotence at its greatest threat, XMR. Nothing to see here.

>> No.22306529
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>COMFY WITH MY GUNS
>COMFY WITH MY DRINK
>COMFY WITH MY TENDIES

BUT MOST IMPORTANTLY

COMFY WITH MY MONERO

BAY
BEEEEEE

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22306542

Big bags BTC maxis are the most aggressive ones.

>> No.22306594

>>22306503

i hold XMR dumb fuck i'm just not a deluded newfag kek!

>> No.22306615

>>22306542

we just don't have small brains lmao

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>>22306594

>> No.22306637

>>22306594
This is the last time I'm replying to you so listen to me carefully. Dump your XMR bags immediately. Cash out into BTC or fiat and invest your money into another project. I recommend XRP, Statera, or any food token. Hold regardless of whether or not the price goes down. Cash out when it's red enough.

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Daily reminder: Fungibility is personal freedom.

>> No.22307341

>>22304544
What is your plan in the next 5 years?
Why are other privacy coins not as good as XMR?

>> No.22307418

>>22305549
What's a soft fork?

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>>22305826
>not even worth replying to lmao

>> No.22307690

>>22306659
>that gator is going to eat it lol

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>>22307418
https://www mycryptopedia com/hard-fork-soft-fork-explained/

>> No.22308437

>>22304723
Xmr scales even worse than bitcoin since it's transaction sizes are 10x bigger even with cslag and bulletproofs, but just like bcash and bsv, xmr acts like there isn't an actual fundamental scaling problem with blockchains

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0x/MR

>> No.22308670

XMR & Sentinel. Anyone talking bout this?

>> No.22309380

>>22308670
Not that I know of. Do you have any information?