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>> No.22245066
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Covered calls!

>> No.22245076

Woooooooooooooooooooooooo

>> No.22245081

Quit buying into ponzi schemes

>> No.22245082
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>crabbing all day
baka

>> No.22245097
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>last thread got archived 30 seconds after I posted in it
Oops

>> No.22245115
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virgin males will never make it

>> No.22245128

>>22245115
>thinks he can beat the market
>isn't a wizard
ngmi

>> No.22245227
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>>22245082
The trend is your friend until the bend in the end

>> No.22245283
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Thinking about putting in some lotto ticket limit buys like $30 AMD in case there's a crash and people are market selling (not puts, I'd be specifically betting on getting something below market price on liquidity running dry). Anyone ever pulled off something like this before? How much of a JUSTing is reasonable to expect during panic selling?

>> No.22245310
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I hope you fucks bought Microsoft.

https://finance.yahoo.com/m/bbdf4f26-dc18-3bd6-ae95-0964bc634ba8/amazon-vows-to-fight-after.html

>> No.22245340

what's the optimal way to split up your dip buying money? major crashes like covid only dropped stocks 40-50%, do you split it up enough to account for another potential 50% dip in the future? do you just go to say 30% max and say if it dips 50% then you just wait as long as you need to for it to recover? my issue is that besides major apocalyptic shit like that, stocks don't drop that much. look at say KO for example. the most it's dropped since the initial recovery from the covid crash was around 10% top to bottom, *maybe* 15%. if i was prepared for 50% drops i'd make a lot less money on the much more common 5-15% dips i want to buy.

thoughts?

>> No.22245358
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>>22245227
kek

>> No.22245388

To the persons in the last thread that nietzche was naming the jew. He was praising the jew just a paragraph down.

"Nevertheless, I would like to know how much one must excuse in the overall accounting of a people which, not without guilt on all our parts, has had the most sorrowful history of all peoples, and to whom we owe the noblest human being (Christ), the purest philosopher (Spinoza), the mightiest book, and the most effective moral code in the world. Furthermore, in the darkest medieval times, when the Asiatic cloud had settled heavily over Europe, it was the Jewish freethinkers, scholars, and doctors, who, under the harshest personal pressure, held fast to the banner of enlightenment and intellectual independence, and defended Europe against Asia; we owe to their efforts not least, that a more natural, rational, and in any event unmythical explanation of the world could finally triumph again, and that the ring of culture which now links us to the enlightenment of Greco-Roman antiquity, remained unbroken. If Christianity did everything possible to orientalize the Occident, then Judaism helped substantially to occidentalize it again and again, which, in a certain sense, is to say that it made Europe's history and task into a continuation of the Greek."

http://nietzsche.holtof.com/reader/friedrich-nietzsche/human-all-too-human/aphorism-475-quote_5e445846f.html

>> No.22245411

give me your thoughts on these companies biz:
5Below
Gildan
Ulta Cosmetics

>> No.22245598

>>22245411
I've never heard of any of them before they're probably scams

>> No.22245621

It's all so tiresome.

>> No.22245638

>>22245598
Ulta cosmetic is a great cash cow because women will always be whores.

>> No.22245656

>>22245598
You've never heard of Ulta? Do you know any women? Shit, Ulta is basically my go-to gift card these days for women.

>> No.22245666

Should I buy weekly puts on Tesla on Tuesday? There's absolutely no way it goes up right?

>> No.22245695

>>22245388
Checked

>> No.22245703

>>22245310
Wtf am I looking at.jpeg

>> No.22245717

>>22245666
Has a stock ever gone up as a result of not being included in the S&P 500 when everybody expected they would?

>> No.22245766

>>22245340
On indexes you will be in good shspe if you start averaging in below the 200 say moving average slowly at regular intervals. Triple your buy in amounts down at the 200 week line if things get there. That's about how i would go about it if i wanted to be a tactical long hodler.

>> No.22245819

>>22245638
How is it vs Coty? I know coty sells garbage cosmetics that poor people and niggers buy but they're in the not tsla club now.

>> No.22245825

>>22245717
Was it really expected though? I don't think anyone was expecting it and was more looking at the improbable inclusion as a way to boost the stock price after the recent decline

>> No.22245859

>>22245388
The Jew giveth and the Jew taketh away

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>>22245066
>Missing out on potential upside
>Settling for a small percentage of it goes up, not even hedging your downside
>Gamma negative and delta positive
>Not being able to get into a delta neutral position because you have to keep them to stay covered
>Not being able to scalp gamma
>All for some small theta with OTM calls

>> No.22245969
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>Bitcoin keeps dumping
RED TUESDAY

>> No.22245981

>>22245825
??? did you not see the reeeeeee that etsy was included over TLSA?

line go down anon, line go down

>> No.22246051

The real redpill is to sell covered calls when you are long a stock but thing it has temporarily reached a top and is going to dip soon. Example: that institution selling $120 million in TSLA 500c 9/4.

>> No.22246066

>>22245825
It's really 50/50. Before Corona Ebay was going to be bought out by another company and when the deal fell through stock went up. Perhaps it being away from S&P is a good thing

>> No.22246107

>>22242393
Thank you, Anon. I saw this post in June, 10% of my portfolio is in miners already. However, please explain why would inflation raise value of REIT, oil, infrastructure companies and etc. and not tech? If you want to hedge against inflation, why would you buy dividend stocks instead of growing ones? I don't see the logic here.
Also, if the debt inflates, that means it's cheaper. What am I missing here?

>> No.22246109

>>22245703
the price of microsoft stocks. They just secured another 10 bil deal with the government. BUY NOW.

>> No.22246112

>>22245981
I did not. Just people laughing that fucking Etsy got including yet not Tesla.
Either way, whatever. I am ok with testing TSLA floors.

>> No.22246120

>>22245864
I don’t really get how you guys don't seem to understand that you basically never get assigned. No one writes calls ATM and if you think a stock is going to spike up you don’t write them at all. It’s just a way to lower your basis when things are crabby or slow. I don’t think there are too many retards who think that covered calls are some kind of get rich quick scheme.

>> No.22246131

>>22245766
i mean the problem remains the same. before the covid crash the SPY moved like maybe 2-3% top to bottom most of the time. the covid crash on the SPY was around 35%, over fucking 10% the volatility. if i was buying in every 2% i'd get turbofucked probably being maxed out around 6% or 10% or something.

im trying to figure out how to profit from dip buying and flipping it on 100% retraces over and over without getting turbofucked by a crash like that. but maybe we can't have one again because of new govt policies like QE infinity which we didn't have before the crash? idk. maybe i can just hodl if such a crash ever happens again because it's bound to eventually recover? idk. that's what im trying to figure out. i mean theoretically this huge drop the past 2 days should be the perfect buying opportunity if you're buying in on every 5% drop.

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>>22246051
>$120 million in TSLA 500c 9/4
some idiot bought that

>> No.22246209

the banks are going to fuck everything up again, aren't they?

>> No.22246280
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22246280

This is the most batshit show I've seen in a while, love it

>> No.22246291

>>22246109
if you buy MSFT only now because they got a $10 billion contract, you are retarded

>> No.22246308
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>Carver Bancorp getting a mention in the WSJ

>> No.22246310

>>22246131
How about setting a buy stop on a 50% retrace from the top? Set the buy, if it triggers, put a stop in a percent or two down. If the stop triggers, set another buy stop at the 50% retrace which will be a bit lower now but still further from the current price. During a real crash it won't retrace 50% so you don't get back in. As the crash keeps dropping the price, keep the buy stop at that 50% mark. Eventually the tide will turn, your buy stop will get hit and at that point you ride it back to the top with a healthy trailing stop which if it gets triggered, start the process over

>> No.22246340

>>22246209
Its not the banks, its the government that has and still fucks shit up. You're looking at 3-5% down payment for a house (nationwide rate). They simply don't learn.

>> No.22246341

>>22246109
I hope they eventually get tiktok with Walmart too. I’m sorta gambling on it

>> No.22246343

>>22246066
I'm expecting positive results from battery day but I really never was banking on any movement one way or the other with the S&P. I mean, whatever. It doesn't change anything about my long term outlook on the company.

>>22245969
Is BTC worth buying right now? It doesn't seem to be detached from either stocks or gold so what's the point

>> No.22246354

>>22246209
It's spooky that the "Banks - Diversified" sector inverts the whole rest of the market.

>> No.22246364

>>22246209
The 2008 crisis really started in 2006, so, lord only knows what risk are out there. I do think banks are healthier than they were in '08 though. This crisis is more of a public and corporate debt one. That's kind of the problem though, because in 2008 we could direct money fairly tightly to stop the bleeding (bail out banks and AIG), but now we have no tight target.

>> No.22246373

>>22245969
I’ll feel like less of an idiot for selling then

>> No.22246379

>>22246109
this came out during market hours

Also people price it in. DoD isn't trump lapdogs and it was inevitable. Trump probably didn't even know this deal was going on.

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Anime girls with hats on is now going in the Presidential archives. Bullish.

>> No.22246478

>>22245227
Minsky moment is definitely possible here

>> No.22246526

>>22246379
Anon that’s pretty stupid to think his administration was unaware. To think that his underlings wouldn’t know he’d be furious if his govt gave all that money to amzn...

Amazon didn’t have a chance but there’s probably nothing they can do about it. Hopefully they’ll finally dip so I can buy.

>> No.22246544

I'm looking into banks now. BHLB comes to mind. Soon things hurt by the virus will be roaring back to life biggly. Be a shame to miss out on the profit. Currently under 10 per share. The high is 33. Even a modest bump to 20 or 24 would see you make a nice wad of green. Its at the low end of the scale as well so any further dips wouldn't be a big hurt.

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>>22245864
If you want to be ignorant, that is your loss buddy.

>> No.22246599

>>22246120

Not to mention you can just roll contracts or buy OTM long with premium to hedge against spikes. People forget that there's folks who are holding onto actual positions and not making synthetics every monday after expiry.

>> No.22246600

>>22246478
February called, they want their analysis back

>> No.22246637

>>22246526
I don't think the DOD cares about trump's feud with amazon. Maybe if it was bigger than that.

>> No.22246649

>>22246600
I only mean a similar pattern, not magnitude

>> No.22246655

>>22246478
We had that in Feb/March.

>> No.22246722

>>22246310
because that shit happens once in a blue moon, anon. you just wouldn't fucking trade most of the time. take the SPY for example, the low was 217.75. the high right now is 358.75. a 50% retrace would be to fucking 288.25.

for the record the most it has dipped since the bottom is less than 10%, i think around early june top to bottom was under 9% drop. this current drop these past 2 days btw was 6.65% so it's much more likely to go up than down, and even if it goes down it is highly unlikely to beat the biggest drop we had on the SPY since the covid crash which was around 9%.

or do you just mean looking at each move and peak to trough and buying at a 50% retracement of each individual part? even still you'd get turbofucked by this recent huge drop in that case which is why im looking more along the lines of something like "buy X% of your account at each Y% drop in price" since it's at least more consistent.

but you have to balance between protection against crashes vs. most of the time when it doesn't crash and you still want to make good money.

>> No.22246728

>>22246120
I understand, but you get a very low premium for OTM calls and if you have them covered you're paying a huge premium in not being able to use those stocks to hedge your delta position and try to get a positive gamma with being long calls and puts.
It's too much of a low return on it, especially given the really low premiums you receive on it

>> No.22246759
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Anons, what stocks should one buy in an inflationary cycle? Growth or dividend stocks?

>> No.22246794

>>22246600
>>22246655
Complacencies from people like you give me confidence in my sell on Wednesday and not getting back in anytime soon. Bulls are brainwashed right now.

>> No.22246800

>>22246343
>Is BTC worth buying right now
If it doesn't hold this range it's gonna look ugly as fuck. It's probably worth buying (for the short term at least) at 9100-9250

>> No.22246822

>>22246759
coinflip moonshot GME

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>>22245012
if women drive the majority of purchasing, the becky portfolio will never fail right? RIGHT?

>> No.22246963

>>22246291
>he cant see the current opportunity
ngmi

>> No.22246975

Much respect for Buffet. The dude's got money out the ass. But here's the thing; He's fucking 90. At most he lives 10 more years. So with all that said why the hell would he give two shits about money now?. So he makes a few bad investments, big deal. He don't care cause he's on a count down clock now. There's a difference between a dude who has several decades of life in front of him and the dude who has maybe 1 left. The one with just 1 just doesn't give two shits about much anymore cause he knows he's dead anyway.

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>>22246918
This is a great idea. Someone really needs to make a 3x ETF for the whore economy. Ticker must be THOT.

>> No.22247044

>>22246759
gold and silver miners, gold, silver, maybe some emerging market hedges

>> No.22247058
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>>22246722
It's a simple heuristic that keeps you mostly in an uptrend and gets you out when the trend is down. Take the last couple of days for instance. When Tuesday rolls around, maybe we go back up or maybe this week was just a prelude and the drop continues in earnest. We go up, I get back in on the 50% retrace (around 3460 on the /ES) and keep making money. If we go down, well I'm already out so my bleeding has stopped. The theory is a 50% retrace on most drops is a decent confirmation that the trend will resume. And if you get in, again, set a stop beneath the low. That stop gets hit you're back out and set a buy stop for the 50% retrace again. I've been using this system for a while and I can only say I get the upside, avoid the downside and since I widen the sell stop out every time it gets hit so I can even use this system to avoid getting chopped up.
The bottom line is, buying into a down trend is what most retail traders do and stats say most retail traders lose their asses. I buy when the price is going up and sell when it's going down and that works for me

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>>22246728
>Sell OTM calls
>Literally do nothing and make money when the stock goes up or down at basically no risk
>Repeat every week/month

>> No.22247066

>>22246918
I'm glad this exists

>> No.22247088

>>22247033
HAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH LAUGH AT WOMEN THREAD HAHAHAHAHAHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHHAAHAHAAAAAA

>> No.22247148

>>22246759
Unironically tech (TQQQ to be specific)
If you are a pussy and can't handle volatility (just be honest with yourself if seeing 40% gains vanish scares you into selling) then just hold FAGTMAN

>> No.22247149

>>22247088
Who needs a thread for that? just go watch them drive

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Like guys I think tsla is going to crash to 230 by the end of september

aapl is going to stay in the 100's though

>> No.22247159

>>22247088
seethe cope dilate etc.

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>>22247088
yes

>> No.22247190

>>22247060
>Make money when the stock goes up or down
You don't make money when the stock goes down at all you lose.koney as soon as the drop in stock prices make the premoumt you received less than the drop in value of your stocks.
Why not at the same time hedge your downside with a put paid for by the money received on the sold calls

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also, just so you guys are aware: the QQQ hasn't hit the -16x ATR band on the 1h since the recovery after the covid crash. so either this is the best dip you're going to see for some time, or this is the beginning of the next crash, just something to consider.

>> No.22247225

>>22247150
lol ok. sell then or set up puts

>> No.22247232

>>22246794
I used to be a perma-bear doom-and-gloomer but the rally from March lows back to ATHs, constantly anticipating the next leg down every only for it to never come, and watching every resistance level be broken through changed me forever. Now I'm a doom-bull that always longs billionaires, mega-corps, and American misery and always shorts the middle class.

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>>22246794
>Complacencies from people like you give me confidence in my sell
>Bulls are brainwashed right now.

>> No.22247270

>>22247215
>all or nothing
yikes

>> No.22247273

>>22246975
Howard buffet is the one people need to be listening too now

>> No.22247281
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>be Palantir
>literal Microsoft's Tay 2.0 on steroids
>racist against immigrants
>racist against blacks
>makes conviction records
>niggers literally jump off buildings to their death during Palantir aided raids
>over 50% government contracts and climbing

Who else is going all in with Palantir IPO?

Also...i love you Palantir-chan!

>> No.22247285

>>22247190
Stocks are not options, they can go up and down and do not expire. Maybe you should try them some time?

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>>22247281
>racist against immigrants
>racist
>immigrants

>> No.22247311

>>22246918
>Etsy
Fuck me becky wins again

I hope Etsy-anon never sold. I took my losses on Etsy and pins real quick before losses became substantial, but now he’s gotta be rolling in it.

>> No.22247323

>>22247215
Based on the fact that none of the big indicators have changed I would say "Buy Every DIp"

>> No.22247328

>>22247060
IDK I did this a few times and got fucked quickly when my OTM WMT $131 got called away and now the price is like $145 once the time tok buying rumors broke out, also got my KO, IBM, RCL called away on simple bull 12% gain weeks recently. I'm definitely down massive on covered calls

>> No.22247357

>>22247285
So you're saying you don't lose money when stocks go down, really are you trying to say this to me?
Just because you haven't sold them doesn't mean your PnL isn't affected by a downwards move in your underlying.
If your premiums received in the sold calls are smaller than the loss on your stocks you don't make money, you now have a negative PnL

>> No.22247365

>>22247281
I kind of want to hold it just to be edgy but do you really think it's going to outperform TQQQ?

>> No.22247368

>>22247281
I'm little skeptical, since apparently they don't turn a profit, but Thiel seems like he knows what he is doing.

>> No.22247416

>>22247323
what big indicators? the DXY got above 93 recently although it came back down. got up to 93.21 and now is just barely below at 92.97. the FED has promised to keep shit stabilized and not ever increase interest rates so i guess we have that going for us.

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>>22245969
Honestly I agree. Bitcoin very much followed the fear and greed trend earlier this year so it's a good weekend indicator of what we'll open on. BIG RED>

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>>22247365
I want to get TQQQ too but is far too volatilite right now. Im pretty sure it will still drop next week since tesla got cucked by Etsy on the SP 500

Palantir will only go up in today's world or until world peace is reached.

>> No.22247490

>>22247328
>down massive on covered calls
>sol above your entry
You sound very stupid.

>>22247357
>stock goes down, value of calls goes down, they expire worthless
>still have stock, stock goes back up, sell more calls
Yes. You're just not very smart.

>> No.22247502

who here will buy UNITY
>40% earnings growth PER year
>in its existence has never made a profit

>> No.22247503

>>22246918
you should be okay because women like to spend money. spending money is like a status symbol to women.

>> No.22247511

>>22246340
are you implying down payments should be higher? housing crash when

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How far do you guys think we'll eventually correct to, 50% down on SPY?

>> No.22247585

>>22247281
When is it though and how much is it going to start at

>> No.22247591

>>22247553
SPY to 0

>> No.22247592

>>22247553
Certainly hope so, but I doubt it.

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I dont feel too good last few days. I am going to drive fear/greed inde all the way into fear.

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>>22247490
>Make $3,000 instead of $50,000

It's a good strategy, still made money! You are using covered calls purely as an emotional hedge, celebrating the tiny but frequent gains but disregarding the massive but infrequent loss in upside. Over time the strategy is a massive loser (especially when considering fees and taxes) over simply holding the stock.

>> No.22247687

>>22247642
What if you sell really OTM calls and never get assigned?

>> No.22247714

Why is crypto dumping? Last dump and NASDAQ happen to dump also. No rat posting either, is this it?

>> No.22247724

Starting my dividends portion of my portfolio. Going for PSEC, HIX, and ARR

>> No.22247738

>>22247033
>>22247033
I would literally do this right away if I had the money. In fact I'm considering a kickstarter for it.

>> No.22247749

CLIS.....shit or promising?

>> No.22247750

>>22247687

Might as well donate money to your broker as well. I'm sure they wouldn't mind.

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>>22247642
Everyone should just buy 50% SQQQ 50% TQQQ and then just sell which ever one goes up, then hold the other until it too goes up.

LITERALLY CANNOT LOSE
ITS FREE MONEY

>> No.22247758

>>22247687
then you make no money.

>> No.22247798

>>22247281
It's going to replace boomer Raytheon in my defense allocation

Once this dip ends I need to rebalance my portfolio anyways

>> No.22247818

>>22247750
My broker doesn't charge you anything if options expire or are assigned

>>22247758
you make a small amount and retain the appreciation

>> No.22247828

>>22247751
Damn why don't I do this very day

>> No.22247875

>>22247818
you make like 0.01 per 100 shares, anon.

>> No.22247921

>>22247818

Sure thing anon, then go collect your 0.01 premiums per lot. I'm sure there's some loser out there that'll buy them off you then.

>> No.22247928
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>>22247751
he's cracked the code

>> No.22247949

>>22247309
Immigrants aren't white anymore.

>> No.22247967

>Google Palantir:
>"Palantir filed to go public. The firm's unethical technology should horrify us"
>"Wall Street has never seen a company like Palantir"
I'm starting to warm up to the idea.

Also, apparently there are a bunch of tech companies looking at IPOs soon: Unity, Snowflake, Asana, JFrog, and Sumo Logic.
Unity already seems like it's being used everywhere, so maybe not a bad idea either.

>> No.22247980

>>22247875
>>22247921
it's a free cent every week, you guys hate money

with the power of compounding it will be worth $1m in 200 years

>> No.22247988
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>>22247225
I'm just speculating. I can't afford TSLA options

>> No.22247998

>>22247687
Do the math.

Let's say you own some really stable blue chip stock like KO (Coca Cola). The most OTM call for Friday, September 11th is $54 compared to the current price of $51.04, for 5 cents per call share. The first problem is commissions are fixed at usually around 50-75¢, which disproportionately affects smaller prices. So you sell 1 call option (100 shares each) netting $5 minus the 60¢ fees so you get $4.4 in your account. Yes, 98% of the time KO doesn't increase more than $4 per share so you make a free $4.4 (don't forget to pay short term capital gains tax on these). Oof, one week the feds announced a 5 trillion increase or Pepsi announced a huge scandal and KO went up an unexpected but not unheard of 17% to $60. You have to sell for $55 and lose out on $5 per share* 100 = $500. But it's okay! You have made $4.4 per week for 125ish weeks in a row, right? Also don't forget to pay taxes on the 125 weeks of $4.4 premium earns but no tax break for the $500 of potential earnings lost!

Covered calls are all emotional hedging, unless you are already a great trader or have insider knowledge they are a losing strategy.

>> No.22248025

>>22247511
Yes of course. We tried the affordable housing non-sense before in the 1930s and changed the down payment again so that people don't buy houses without any foot in the door! Barny Frank changed it again and caused the housing boom and bust, since we didn't change it back it we were just waiting for it to happen again.

>> No.22248027

>>22247475
Honestly what do poeple expect? ETSY generates stable growth. TLSA is a meme stock and will fuck the SPY gains.

>> No.22248052
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22248052

>animal crossing is going to push Gamestop to an earnings beat
>GME $100 party next week

>> No.22248080

>>22247714
crypto is highly correlated with the stock market, so, not really a surprise.

>> No.22248102

>>22247724
>no MSFT,V,WM,KO,PG,PEP,MCD,KMB,JNJ,GIS,MMM and no AVGO

the fuck are you doing? don't you like safe dividends and a good night sleep?

>> No.22248146

>>22247591
Theoretically possible. Realistically JPow would buy it if it came to that.

https://old.reddit.com/r/wallstreetbets/comments/fsj3l3/very_unusual_option_activity/fm1y0ru/

>> No.22248216
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22248216

>buy the dip retards

>> No.22248222

>>22248146
Any good news for market yet? This long weekend makes me nervous.

>> No.22248227

>>22248052
>>22248146
>https://old.reddit.com

>> No.22248250

>>22248102
No I like safe high yield monthly dividend stocks.

>> No.22248253

Why should I invest in international or emerging markets? These guys have underperformed S&P500 for last decade and have no major tech companies. I feel like diversification is a scam and this is being exposed during covid. All you need is S&P500 or Nasdaq if you want to concentrate further. Every country except America has a trash economy.

>> No.22248278

GME is going to implode on bad earnings and WKHS didn't get the contract. Two weeks from now I'll be all in on $GUN.

>> No.22248294

Do people here really think that as soon as you sell a covered call, the stock is going to rise 100% during the contracts lifetime? That's ridiculous. I can easily find stocks that will provide 1-2% return in premium alone per week that have 70% chance of being out of the money on Friday. In case you're curious, that's 1 * 52 to 2 * 52 percent gain a year or 52-104% return a year on premium alone.

The only time you "lose" money compared to owning the stock is if it moons in one week. Now tell me how often that happens on a stock you own? Very unlikely. Just because you can find examples out of thousands of stocks, the odds of you owning one when it moons is low. It's much more likely that it goes up a few percent and that's it.

>> No.22248296

>>22248227
why did you quote me

>> No.22248300

>>22245598
gildan makes socks and underwear. ive seen them at walmart

>> No.22248303
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Gonna add BHLB tuesday. Just a bit over 2 years before I turn 40. I flat out refuse to hit that milestone without least 100,000 in my hands..

>> No.22248317

whats your game plan for next week?
Holding TQQQ and gonna buy GME

>> No.22248322

>>22248227
Yes.

>> No.22248361

>>22248253
You can invest into countries with freer economies than America, but you will hardly ever find any. If you had a time machine to the 1980s, Hong Kong would be something you might've invested into.

>> No.22248364

>>22248278
the sheer amount of FUD being spread about WKHS through all the usual FUD culprits (seekingalpha, motley fool, yahoo) makes me super bullish

You don't just get 10 motley fool articles saying your stock is shit without your stock going up, that's how it works

>> No.22248370

>>22248294
>1% on covered call premiums per week
Show me where this is the case, where is it the case where a hypothetical stock trading at 50 dollars would earn you at least 0.50 dollars per contract that's really as far out of the money for it to be considered safe enough

>> No.22248401

>>22248253
Agreed. In theory academics think investing in third world countries is good because they have so much upside, but in reality investing in a bunch of low-IQ retards that havent been able to build a functioning society is actually retarded as fuck.

>> No.22248472

>stocks won't move for 3 whole days
how do i cope

>> No.22248482

>>22248317
Literally everything seems to be going down Wednesday so we'll see. GME earnings, Palantir investor's day, WKHS conference, a bunch of my divvies pay out, and probably a bunch of stuff I'm forgetting. So I probably won't do anything until Wednesday.

>> No.22248504

>>22248250
>safe

you just posted the most obscure shit. how are they generating profit with no customers?

>> No.22248510

>>22248472
read a book

>> No.22248533

>>22248472
weed and video games

>> No.22248534

Bitcoin is about to lose the $10,000 support through the weekend.. I think we're in for a bloody red week again..

>> No.22248556

>>22248472

Whatever you do for leisure.

>> No.22248562

>>22248504
None of those stocks are obscure. They all have safe history going back 15+ years. They exist to pay monthly dividends

>> No.22248575

>>22245066
>>22245864
>>22246597
>>22246597
Dream job - OTM covered call salesman

>> No.22248588

>>22248294
Options are literally a zero-sum game at best (unlike the stock market) where you are playing against some of the smartest minds in the world. IN ADDITIONA, there are fees and a 35% short-term capital gains tax. Options are like poker,. msot players lose, the break even players lose, and the few super smart or lucky ones that win would make more money with their intelligence elsewhere.

I agree covered calls is a good emotional hedge because you lose less when the stock goes down and the worst case scenario is making less that you would have, but mathmatically they are a heavy losing play. You lose at least 35% to taxes along the way and eventually you lose out on extreme upside.

>> No.22248589

>>22248472
Short crypto

>> No.22248592

>>22247998
You're failing to account for active trading. You can sell on a good day for profit, and close on a bad day, only to sell again the next day. Of course options trading on KO is retarded. If you choose a high volatility stock you can quite probably sell and close on the same day and take a reasonable profit. In that case the real risk is the underlying. And yes, the haircut is a risk, but it's not like you get assigned the moment it hits strike anyways, offering you some degree of freedom for a dollar-to-dollar haircut if you're really impressed with the price action.

>> No.22248599

>>22248534
Bitcoin just does whatever it wants mate, there's no underlying, it's basically shiny rocks for zoomers. Don't get spooked unless the dollar spikes.

>> No.22248672

>>22248588
The Solution, just be gamma long and delta neutral.
Don't try to beat market makers in options.

>> No.22248686

>>22248599
Bitcoin follows the general market sentiment pretty closely though.

>> No.22248688
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I extrapolated 50 years of US smoking data and it looks like it plateaus at 15%. I went and checked the 25-65 age group for what % are currently smokers it matches my graph at around 17% CY.

This isn't even factoring in vaping or cannabis or international growth. I think we need to buy tobacco stonks guys. All the "almost smart" money saw the smoking trends going down and exited along with all these cucked institutional and "socially responsible investors" leaving the industry undervalued.

tl;dr: the % of smokers will go down to 15% and stay there then the population will continue to grow increasing revenues.

>> No.22248698

>>22247749
App looks decent, been holding since .07 entry. I don't think there's much downside. Upside is app release and potential adoption.

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>LMAO ROBINZOOMERS ARE MOMENTUM RIDING PAPER HANDS BITCHES BUT THATS A GOOD TEST FOR US LONGTERM CHADS

/smg/ btfo

>> No.22248706

>>22248588
And I want to add that covered calls are especially bad for young people (which I assume everyone on BIZ is) who has at least 50 years of investing in front of them. Everyone knows stocks always go up over 50 years and youd be suprisied that most of those gains happen individually over incredibly short timeframes. Potentially missing out on those is a huge mistake for young people. On the other hand, covered calls could absolutely make sense for a 60 year old who needs stable income but isn't trying to 5x their money overtime like young people are trying to do

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>>22248370
>AMD
>Sept 11th
> >70% chance of out of the money
> min 1.17% on premium alone
If you play the 69% OTM one, you're looking at 1.8% on premium. There's plenty more out there like this. If you want, another is TQQQ which you can go up to even 80-90% OTM to still earn around 1%.

>> No.22248729

>>22247215
Just buy it.

Worst case you hide for a year or two. If you don't have the stomach to walk away for 2 years just trade options. Theres no reason to buy shares if you can't stomach downturns or long waits. Entire point of a share is to that you are in it for a long time and eventually want the buy in price to be 1/3rd of the current price.

>> No.22248734

>>22248672
>just be gamma long and delta neutral.
I have literally no idea what this means, could you please translate this for a pleb like me.

>> No.22248741

>>22248401
This. Imagine investing in Africa with the goal of making a functional economy. Clearly that isn't going to work because niggers. Best to just strip the resources and suppress the population.

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>>22248364
wait, is motly fool not a "the onion" type of economic news?

I thought they were being wrong on purpose.

>> No.22248758

>>22248699
is mommy wood speaking somewhere rn? I suppose she's reiterating her price targets and insulting sellers

>> No.22248765

So is there a anticipation for deflation right now?

>> No.22248813

>>22247423
bitcoin is -10% on the 1 month
QQQ is up 3% on the 1 month

>> No.22248819

>>22248742

You'd be surprised how bad they and seeking alpha writers are at times.

>> No.22248823

>>22248742
motley fool is to the onion what the guardian is to the onion

all three are satire, but only the onion is satire on purpose

>>22248765
J Pow Pow would rather start direct Fed payments to citizens in the name of inflation than allow deflation to become a thing. That said, it's possible the Fed will end up like the BoJ and end up helpless in the face of reality. That would be bad.

>> No.22248860

>>22247998
holy fuck this is so wrong

>> No.22248875

>>22248823
Yea I'm sure he doesn't, but can he do that without Congress. I don't think we're getting more stimulus

>> No.22248876

>>22248741
Leave some based for the rest of us

>> No.22248884

why is chainstink so low i wanted to sell my stack and buy stonks

>> No.22248892

>>22248727
yikes you chose pretty much the two most volatile tickers on the market. People buy these two stocks precisely because they expect to be able to make huge upswings quickly. Buying a covered call on these is batshit insane, So sure, 70% of your covered call makes money, but a lot of that time first off is the stock crashing (these stocks aren't exactly good long-term holds) so you're getting fucked that way, and the 30% of the time they go up easily half of that is on extreme gains that certainly wipe out even several weeks of covered call premiums.

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22248907

>Have Acer gaming laptop for 11 years with no issues
>Buy new DELL gaming so I can play cowboy simulator
>DELL laptop breaks after one month of use, no more cowboy simulator
>mfw

>> No.22248909
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22248909

I pulled out of link before the crash got an extra 2k to play with, should I just keep stacking tec? I keep seeing Mining company’s are those valuable at this moment?

>> No.22248940

>>22248907
Well tarnation

>> No.22248954

>>22248698
opened a position yesterday @ .08 because I liked the volume going against everything else dumping.

>> No.22248962

>>22248875
>can he do that
No but he can't buy bond ETFs either. If they need to they'll find a team of lawyers to write flowery language about how "akshully it's not a Fed UBI, it's a temporary Emergency Discount Window for Public Loans" or whatever

>> No.22248977

>>22248909
honestly you should just buy SPY and hold for 30 years, or if you are feeling risky TQQQ, or if you are feeling super risky buy TQQQ calls of $150+

>> No.22248986

>>22248876
Buy my course and you too can based.

>> No.22248999

>>22248907
>gaming laptop

there's your problem

>> No.22249060

>>22248986
I can offer you 100x the yearly salary of a janny for your course

>> No.22249078

Covered call are great options if you understand them and have good reasoning for why along with an overall portfolio strategy they fit into.

Selling premium is a good move long-term and it is proven to improve the sharpe and returns when done over long periods of times.

CC are not always the best move. Hence if you are playing this game you would want to time everything, including strikes, how far out, etc.

You can control the delta you are selling carefully in any number of ways with various strikes, not covering every portion of the stock, buying bear call spreads, anything else that exists.

The idea CC are bad is crazy. You are just selling part of the curve on your shares. It's a valid move under any number of conditions.

Is it going to give you downside protection? Nope. Is it going to give you delta neutrality? nope.

The idea options traders are geniuses is hilarious. That's why we had crazy low vix in late feb..

>> No.22249088

>>22248954
Yeah I've had my position for 2 months now because I didn't know when it was going to pop. About a month ago it ran up to.15 and averaged .12 for a couple days. Some anticipate .2X+. Friday volume indicates something's going on. They may be ending the PO soon. App release soon too.

>> No.22249099

>>22248999
The Acer one worked fine for the games it could play. The dell one just overheats for the games its supposed to be able to play.

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>debt to earnings of 1000
>declining revenues
>debt to equity 1.36
which company am I talking about and would you invest

>> No.22249120

>>22248734
Time to start with the greeks.
>>>/lit/

>> No.22249123

>>22249060
No. I will accept photos of female relatives' feet.

>> No.22249130

>>22247967
Dont they do the same stuff as google basically?

>> No.22249157

>>22249078
Also buying puts (downside protection) constantly is a very bad strategy long term whereas CC are profitable.

Long + CC is pretty much the best retail strategy

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>>22248741

>> No.22249186

>>22249120
μῆνιν ἄειδε θεὰ Πηληϊάδεω Ἀχιλῆος
οὐλομένην, ἣ μυρί᾽ Ἀχαιοῖς ἄλγε᾽ ἔθηκε,
πολλὰς δ᾽ ἰφθίμους ψυχὰς Ἄϊδι προΐαψεν
ἡρώων, αὐτοὺς δὲ ἑλώρια τεῦχε κύνεσσιν
οἰωνοῖσί τε πᾶσι, Διὸς δ᾽ ἐτελείετο βουλή,
ἐξ οὗ δὴ τὰ πρῶτα διαστήτην ἐρίσαντε
Ἀτρεΐδης τε ἄναξ ἀνδρῶν καὶ δῖος Ἀχιλλεύς.

>> No.22249217

>>22248892
>AAL
>BA
Here's 2 more. Neither have made any real moves in any direction since March, but both can earn at least 1% in premium for Sept 11. The goal posts are just getting moved. It was asked to provide stocks that give 1% premium in a week. I did, but those were "too volatile" so here's 2 more than have been flat. I'm sure these aren't good either, but they meet the original requirement of "1% a week".

>> No.22249222

>>22249157
What's your strategy for the times the stock is up huge, just buy out of your covered call position before the stock is called away?
>>22249114
GE?

>> No.22249233

>>22248977
You think 150 this month?

>> No.22249248

>>22249165
Congo niggers didn't need Leo to tell them to chop each others' hands off. They were doing it before the belge and have been doing it after. They're some of the more savage apes.

>> No.22249264

>>22249217
>BA
Based I've covered called this for three weeks in a row for some massive gains, I don't know the particulars but I'm guessing people are expecting they could get some government conrtract or even a coronvirus vaccine alone that could pump up the stock instnatly to $250

>> No.22249268

>>22249114
Is it TSLA?

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>>22249186
Keep your cursed ancient text to yourself you fucking gypsie.

>> No.22249280

>>22248370
BAC gives you almost guaranteed 2% weekly returns

>> No.22249296

>>22249233
82% you lose all your money, 18% you 5x your 2k into 10k

>> No.22249312

>>22249186
Τι στο διάολο είπες απλώς για μένα, σκύλα; Θα ξέρω ότι αποφοίτησα στην κορυφή της τάξης μου στο Navy Seals και έχω συμμετάσχει σε πολλές μυστικές επιδρομές στην Al-Quaeda και έχω πάνω από 300 επιβεβαιωμένες δολοφονίες. Είμαι εκπαιδευμένος στον πόλεμο των γορίλλων και είμαι ο κορυφαίος σκοπευτής σε όλες τις ένοπλες δυνάμεις των ΗΠΑ. Δεν είσαι τίποτα για μένα αλλά ένας άλλος στόχος. Θα σας σβήσω το διάολο με ακρίβεια, τα οποία δεν έχουν ξαναδεί ποτέ σε αυτήν τη Γη, σημειώστε τα γαμημένα μου λόγια. Νομίζετε ότι μπορείτε να ξεφύγετε λέγοντας ότι σκατά μου στο Διαδίκτυο; Σκεφτείτε ξανά, γαμημένο. Καθώς μιλάμε, έρχομαι σε επαφή με το μυστικό μου δίκτυο κατάσκοπων σε όλες τις ΗΠΑ και το IP σας εντοπίζεται τώρα, ώστε να προετοιμαστείτε καλύτερα για την καταιγίδα. Η καταιγίδα που εξαλείφει το αξιολύπητο μικρό πράγμα που ονομάζεις τη ζωή σου. Γαμώτο νεκρό, παιδί μου. Μπορώ να είμαι οπουδήποτε, οποτεδήποτε και μπορώ να σε σκοτώσω με περισσότερους από επτακόσιους τρόπους, και αυτό είναι μόνο με τα γυμνά μου χέρια. Όχι μόνο εκπαιδεύομαι εκτενώς σε άοπλους αγώνες, αλλά έχω πρόσβαση σε ολόκληρο

>> No.22249325

>>22248734
If you don't know Greeks don't fuck with options
>>22248727
Still doesn't justify not just trying to go long gamma by buying a straddle and scalping gamma with a delta neutral strategy.
It's far more lucrative than 1%.

>> No.22249334

>>22249312
Big if true

>> No.22249341

>>22249268
>>22249222
it's the US government lol

>> No.22249363

rumor has it Masayoshi Son from Softbank gambled hundreds of millions on options this past month

>> No.22249389

>>22249222
depends on every factor. I haven't sold covered calls at all till the last 6 trading days this entire rally. Mainly because many of the stocks are outpacing my expectations and I definitely would have lost on CC. I sold CC before crash because I thought things looked bubbly.

Now I am doing CC for obvious strategy reasons going forward.

They are decently OTM although just a few closer to ATM on barbellish plays I don't care about.

Assuming I go ITM on I'd love to take the loss buying it back when it is mostly valued as stock and not premium, then resell a new CC with premium.

Keep in mind a CC changes behavior. The closer to experation the less premium and more like a stock it is. So you usually want to roll out before then, aka buying the delta and selling premium.

>> No.22249408

>>22249222

Either OTM call at the same time, usually if there's an anticipated event like earnings and pretty much make a bull spread with a covered short leg or if it's too late you can always just roll up if the liquidity on your short leg isn't that awful. Likewise if you think it's going to take a shit, long put and collar it.

>> No.22249426

>>22249363
>rumor
Nah. He was the gamma squeezer on TSLA. Probably made billions flipping the contracts and selling TSLA shares to dumb hedgies and robinzoomers.
What a madlad.

>> No.22249434

>>22249264
>>22249217
Except if you're selling BA $180c 9/11 your average cost better be from fucking March-May. People who've bought BA for anything between June-Sept average can't make jack shit on covered calls right now, because if they get assigned at $180 and their cost basis is like $190 they're absolutely dog fucked.

>> No.22249436

>>22249363
Did he win?

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>>22249363

>> No.22249455

>>22249341
The debt doesnt matter what matters is the deficit on government money. They wont close the deficit and this problem will only get worse until they let hundreds of money printers run day and night which will end up leaving everyone in financial ruins. The hidden tax.

>> No.22249489

>>22249312
kekt

>> No.22249508

>>22249078
>The idea options traders are geniuses is hilarious. That's why we had crazy low vix in late feb..
Kek what do you think option traders do? Didn't you think they bought a lot of options in late February to early march because they thought the vol was priced too low?
This is exact what they did and because of the long gamma and delta neutral they were able to reap in massive profits.

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UHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

>> No.22249559

>>22249519
This is bad. This is very bad. I thought we should see market turbulence related to politics towards mid October but early Sept? Please.. don't do this..

>> No.22249572

>>22249519
Whatever. I don’t imagine it’s important at all

>> No.22249582

>>22249519
>Update
>We will give every non-white reparations
>hands mic over to middle aged black woman
>1h long speech on why black lives matter

>> No.22249599

>>22249519
Uh oh he had his stroke a little too early

>> No.22249601

>>22249508
Yes, but selling a CC doesn't mean a genius is buying your otm 2 week CC.

>> No.22249608

>>22249519
oh fuck oh shit

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>>22249519
Every piece of news about Biden is bad.

>> No.22249627
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>>22246209
>He thinks its the Banks.

>> No.22249654

>>22249601
Never said that at all.
But selling covered calls isn't very lucrative and you do nothing else but getting a small premium as a payout for giving up your previous protection from opportunity costs at the strike price.

>> No.22249658

>>22249519
Doesn't matter. Market won't care.

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What media is /smg/ consuming this weekend?

I'm going to try my first Cathy Wood video
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vm2N5NuWNvg&ab_channel=ARKInvest
Then catch up with Ciovakko, haven't watched a full vid of his in weeks/months
THEN it's time to finish Princes of the Yen
>https://youtu.be/p5Ac7ap_MAY
THEN it's time to finish some Dalio videos!
>https://youtu.be/_E_PPGKu-XE
>https://youtu.be/miRVVsjL2dU
>https://youtu.be/drVglJ7zoZ0
>https://youtu.be/HsPK9_72f7o
>https://youtu.be/649jgLwKUQ0
>https://youtu.be/_ryANhiukwE
>https://youtu.be/d0LCRhveF4c
>https://youtu.be/KWlu2nSLhxQ
>https://youtu.be/Gb6OtuW8DVI
>https://youtu.be/nFif4_JE2eo
>https://youtu.be/g4LZsG6wo-o
>https://youtu.be/S09pQFISTAk
>https://youtu.be/g_Zsyx82cF4
>https://youtu.be/iUEUmztpDWY
>https://youtu.be/Nu4lHaSh7D4
>https://youtu.be/cKWlx_P56N4
>https://youtu.be/lJkgcYIJ3lE
>https://youtu.be/kHWSbmAyFLM
>https://youtu.be/d0LCRhveF4c
>https://youtu.be/IeKB0ZN7D3s
>https://youtu.be/W7wLJwA_ltY
>https://youtu.be/xFpc-M4a2sM
>https://youtu.be/tknatSGnfSM
>https://youtu.be/BPuA4DRwhRo
>https://youtu.be/7WXidoI9ppw
>https://youtu.be/fOJp8zGmfO0
>https://youtu.be/WNVOGSQd28A
>https://youtu.be/8XrtJgEG3co
>https://youtu.be/Gg_rOQF9Y4Q
>https://youtu.be/g4LZsG6wo-o
>https://youtu.be/Mh0vEaac78U
>https://youtu.be/YzNKy-4cqLo
>https://youtu.be/EaJ-Djwfr9M
>https://youtu.be/Nlf7fpHU8Vs
>https://youtu.be/QdaY8C3-418
>https://youtu.be/AtYt8Z4tOCk
>https://youtu.be/c1OoWdqbKdg
>https://youtu.be/9RrMcq-zJcU
>https://youtu.be/6VGLplVWgO0
>https://youtu.be/SFaRazMpxcM
>https://youtu.be/EYTbVK5cuCc
>https://youtu.be/GvZ0QBovEQQ
>https://youtu.be/RGkfiFyn4gU
>https://youtu.be/uU9fmO0_oLI
>https://youtu.be/kpZe51BBSgE
>https://youtu.be/R9unEphwPA8
>https://youtu.be/mMN17uBzCw4
>https://youtu.be/HXbsVbFAczg
>https://youtu.be/yrxYhv2O3wU
>https://youtu.be/PtwEdvZzfVc
>https://youtu.be/Jz_PzdVJxB0
>https://youtu.be/5C43i3yclec
>https://youtu.be/SCCfk2a2O5o
>Error: Comment too long (3806/2000).
OOPS!!

>> No.22249699

>>22249519
Announcing 'significant changes' two months before the election can't be good for his chances.

>> No.22249713

>>22249616
And it seems like every time Kamala opens her cocksucker, she says something stupid and divisive

>> No.22249731

>>22249687
what the fuck are you doing
literally read a book on basic economics and use your brain thats all you have to know to invest into companies.

>> No.22249736

>>22249654
It's pretty lucrative right now.

>> No.22249741

Nevermind it's fake.

>> No.22249748

Buy NAK. Mine Pebble.

>> No.22249752

don't worry all you TSLA call holders I bought puts, it should gap up monday

Also long lisa su long AMD

>> No.22249787

>>22249736
Mostly because of the volatility and what you're basically doing is selling a high vol option implying you think the vol is priced too high.
I do not understand why you wouldn't just try and at least raise your gamma somewhat by buying some puts, given you already own some stocks your delta wouldn't be too much affected by some puts that aren't ATM or ITM.

>> No.22249796

>>22249752
I want to get into amd but the second I do it will crash

>> No.22249809

>>22249687
History binge! Mark Felton, Drachinifel, Chieftan, Military History Visualized. Watching this video right now
https://youtu.be/7dUZeAXlc7k
And STRONGLY reccomend this video
https://youtu.be/9ygXLnRAm-A

>> No.22249846

>>22249752

Every time I try to get into AMD I get burned to a crisp, so I won't.

>> No.22249880

>>22249787
Because over the next decade I'd lose money doing that even if it worked this time. I'd buy puts if I thought the market was miss pricing IV and complacent. I'd need a huge conviction to do that play.

>> No.22249936

>>22249731
NGMI, you should be a sponge, never stop learning.

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22249960

Is BAC a good hedge for a long term tech bull? Would prefer if what i use for selling covered calla is also a good hedge anyways

>> No.22249968

>>22249687
I'm just reading Gustave Flaubert's 3 Tales.

>> No.22249979

>>22249960
BAC LEAPs

>> No.22249999

>>22249687
>>22249809
>>22249936
>watching videos to learn as opposed to reading
ngmi

>> No.22250018

>>22247642
your argument is to go into large, risky, complicated options schemes rather than sit and hold stocks that are easy to manage over time like TQQQ.

you're arguing that anyone not going for the riskiest strategy is losing money, but that's only true when you're one of the few people actually winning at your game; as most people lose hugely.

i think most people would just rather grow 40-50% a year than lose everything trying to hit 1000% annual gains.

>> No.22250024

CLIS - hmm, currently this is just 0.08 cents. Last run it hit 0.24 cents. All I'd need is it to hit 0.16 and I'd make double my wad. (20,000). My last gamble with a penny stock well, it cost me 2000, made it back though but still..

>> No.22250029

>>22249999
>reading instead of thinking

>> No.22250030

>>22249999
>being a luddite
moving picture bad am I right fellow boomers

>> No.22250094

If I wanted to bet 1,000 on puts for Tuesday what would be some of my better options?

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>>22249999
>He doesn't read AND watch videos
Crazy concept huh?

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>>22249731
yeah... but I've got a very short attention span, gotta do audiobooks or it takes me months to read a book that should take days.

Youtube lectures are good too, right?

>>22249809
nice!

>>22250018
>i think most people would just rather grow 40-50% a year than lose everything trying to hit 1000% annual gains.
I need to catch up to someone who's already exponentially ahead of me though.

>> No.22250185 [DELETED] 

>>22250018
I had a fun strategy ahead of covid it went through some phases

long calls on USA tech, hold puts on various covid effected areas.

As we got closer to end of march it shifted a bit. I sold pretty much everything but the puts. Bought Gilead shares, and made the portfolio delta neutral across the board.

Creating a delta neutral strategy that was 100% orientated to go 100% up if covid strikes but not hurt me either way. Of course other shit can happen and it was not diversified except towards the put ends, aka a bit reliant on nothing crazy happening to Gilead who had the best looking treatment upside at the time.

So when covid hit I had one of the couple stocks green, and a massive upside on puts from higher vol and the drop.

Of course that was just the early days of the drop strategy. I didn't have to do any complex option plays or anything. It was fairly simple shaped. Of course in hindsight you always want to do some weekly otm puts with 1000x leverage, but I played it safe leverage.

Now I'm sure I'm leaving returns on the table playing this way. Instead of 5000000x or something silly only 30x this year

>> No.22250204

>>22250094
TSLA

>> No.22250243

>>22249519
I can't find anything on this

>> No.22250274

>>22250204
TSLA has been 100% dictated by its options chain. Whenever there is a lot of money at a certain strike, it becomes the meme line of the week.
TSLA's fall will be maximum pain slow as it makes various put levels worthless each week. It will load up more "buy the dip" robinzoomers in the middle of the week as bagholders.

>> No.22250310

>>22249312
it's weird how i knew what this was going to say without knowing any greek at all

>> No.22250389

How to edge against tech dump?

>> No.22250391

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z67mHq2tVhk

reminder nvidia, apple, google, etc are the main competitors to tsla

>> No.22250423

>>22250389
The ideal move?
Buy it and want to buy it.

This means hold if you have no buying power.

>> No.22250442

I fully invested in the tech dip
Most people would say expect it to keep crashing, however, I am an expert trader, and that means the line will go up.

>> No.22250478

it fucking pains me that FedEx has outperformed my tech picks and my family (who works at FedEx) keep reminding me every now and then, ever since.
i overlooked it entirely since $130. Fuck, am I even allowed to buy FedEx stock if I have immediate family that works at my country's FedEx headquarters.

won't i be privy to some information? Fuck, my family told me from the start that they thought it was weird that China was ordering masks back in January. Or the fact that they noticed the workload was getting harder.

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>>22250389
diversify into FedEx

someone tell me if I'm allowed to buy this pls. (>>22250478) I know they're doing OK.

>> No.22250529

>>22250391
OTA updates, graphical screens, chip expertise on board, gestures/ai etc

These tech companies are who will compete with tsla even if they aren't the ones building the cars. Though I think AAPL might build one eventually.

>> No.22250558

>>22249519
>person who is going to lose says something
Who cares.

>> No.22250574

>>22250478

You can if not immediate family so think cousins and grandchildren, and they can't be high up in the corporate chain like directors and whatnot cause their investment is wrapped into their comp plans. So the typical fedex driver is safe more or less.

>> No.22250575

>>22250478
>>22250508
What's the deal with FedEx?

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>>22250575
might have something to do with a lot of shipments rather than people going to B&M stores.

>> No.22250651

>>22250478
Unless you can buy enough to cause major market fluctuations. No you can do what you want with that info.

>> No.22250658

>>22250389
>edge against the tech dump
stare at charts while masturbating but don't cum

>> No.22250763

>>22250389
Buy into non tech. Boomer stocks are the way at the moment like seriously if you want to hedge against a tech fall don't buy into tech. Tech will correct eventually.

>> No.22250797

>>22250631
It's not like people haven't been doing this since before Wu Ping coff. Why are they doing better than UPS? Does Amazon fuck UPS?

>> No.22250808

>reddit shilling virgin galactic AGAIN
What the fuck do they see in that scam?

>> No.22250841

You guys are all retards, in the short term Trump will just print another 5 trillion and buy stocks directly to prop up the dying American economy

>> No.22250845

>>22250808
They fookin love soience

>> No.22250874 [DELETED] 

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>> No.22250889

>>22250797
FedEX even handles a lot of USPS air shipments. It's just a better run business.

>> No.22250899

>>22249341

My portfolio is incredibly underweight US right now. Maybe 20% US and a whole bunch of Europe / China / other EM.
The dollar is shitting the bed and I dont like it.

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>>22250391
Hoooooooly shit

I can't believe I slept through that brief moment on Friday when NVIDIA dropped 19.5% from the high. I only got one share Thursday when it was almost 10% off.

>> No.22250993

>>22250389

buy cyclicals.
industrials, medicine, bank, telecomm.¨
The S&P as a whole is expensive right now but the only real recovery has been done by tech-companies. Many good companies in other sectors are still cheap.

>> No.22251023

>>22250889
Interesting. I always got the impression that FedEx were a bunch of fuck ups. Especially since they never leave the god damn package.

>> No.22251084

>>22250094
TSM

>> No.22251109

>>22250981
It's been out a while now not anything new. But nvidia and mercedes are teaming up pretty extensively.

https://blogs.nvidia.com/blog/2020/06/23/mercedes-benz-nvidia-software-defined-vehicles/

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I have flipped a coin to determine my buys this week

>> No.22251188

I dunno may toss 10,000 into MRO. Winter will be here soon. More oil and gas will be sucked up. Under $5 per now. They're saying it'll hit least 12 so I'd make over double my green

>> No.22251233

There absolutely will not be a vaccine before the election and Biden is strongly favored to win. Given that premise, how do I exploit the market misconception that a vaccine might come soon and Trump might win?

>> No.22251249

>>22251175
im a simple man. AMD drops nearly 20%, i buy. it's either going back up or we're going to have another crash and i haven't heard of any new plague coming out yet.

>> No.22251283

>>22251233
Buy the boomer selloff dip in mid to late October. Boomer presidents don't matter for the markets anymore, but boomers think they do.

>> No.22251316

>>22251283
There will be race riots and insurrection regardless of who wins but the market hasn't cared about that so far

>> No.22251359

>>22251316
Yet. Buy GEO.

>> No.22251365

>>22251249
Should I bother with AMD and Nvidia directly or just be content as a fat boomer with TSMC divvies?

>> No.22251370

>>22251316
You dramatically underestimate the American tendency to not give a shit
>b-b-but MUH TWITTER
Unironically social media bubbles.

>> No.22251387

>>22251233
Biden wont win. You must not pay attention to politics. Anyways buy the dip

>> No.22251417

>>22251387
Biden will absolutely win and the MAGA tears will make the leftist shitfit from 2016 look quaint.

>> No.22251544

BAKING

>> No.22251545

>>22251417
Damn nigga you dum

>> No.22251555

>>22251417
let me guess: you're one of those trannies that prays every night for the destruction of america, right?

>> No.22251561

>>22250391
JUST

>> No.22251566

Airline Chads report in

>> No.22251587

>>22251365
you want exposure to all of then. AMD has more exciting growth precisely because they're fabless. TSMC is more stable and growth is slower in comparison because foundries take a few years to build from scratch. Margins are smaller but TSMC is really good at what they do (fantastic yields) that their growth is really fast for a manufacturer.

Manufacturers are also cyclical in nature because of that time lag with expanding production and not being able to respond fast to fluctuating demand. TSMC is an exception to that (unlike something like MU) because they're practically a monopoly right now for cutting edge chips. Samsung is struggling to get volume production on 5nm. Not only are their customers getting mad at them for not fulfilling their orders (see Qualcomm), Samsung must be burning so much money to do it anyways with their shitty yields.

>> No.22251595

I just wanna turn 10,000 into 24,000 and not get screwed on the deal.. Is that to fucking much to ask for... I mean hell I get that trying to turn that 10000 into a million would be a bit much but a bit over double?

>> No.22251603

>>22251316
>There will be race riots and insurrection regardless of who wins
Oh no. They will stop if Biden wins. If the riots aren't outright orchestrated by the Dems, then the media is just going to stop reporting on them as Kamala is going to crack some skulls.

>> No.22251622

>boomers just rambling the same things about politics endlessly
See you Monday future bros.

>> No.22251624

>>22251566
do you enjoy crabbing at the bottom for months?

>> No.22251625

NEW

>>22251601
>>22251601
>>22251601
>>22251601

>> No.22251639

>>22251624
Yes.

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>>22245012
When Tesla goes below 100 should I buy in?

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>>22247750
>Such small positions he’s effected by commissions.

>> No.22251722

>>22251595
How much time do you have?

>> No.22251878

>>22251555
>>22251545
This is exactly what I mean, you guys are as cultish as the ShareBlue "she CAN'T LOSE BIGOTS IT'S HER TUUUURRRRRNNN" crowd. Which is why Hillary lost.

>> No.22252006

>>22251084
TSM is an 80% buy. Why would it go down?

>> No.22252188

>>22245283
Bump for curiosity, can this happen?