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Get emailed once a day with the number of times each listed top 100 CoinmarketCap coin is mentioned on the /biz/ forums.

The mailing list is here: http://eepurl.com/cJ8d0X

Are there any other metrics you guys would be interested in receiving by email?

My plan is to make it useful, so some of you will actually pay a few bucks for the VIP version, which essentially means you get more detailed alerts, more often. I havent thought that part through.

>> No.2219002

console.write("kill your self");

>> No.2219018

>>2219002
I am happy I coded something that worked after a few hours.

I was hoping for biz to be super excited and want to shower me with moneis.

Your post did not reflect that.

>> No.2219021

>>2218978
>Not ordered in any way whatsoever
Into the trash it goes

>> No.2219033

>>2219021
ok ill fucking order it

any other feedback?

>> No.2219043

>>2218978
What's the sentiment on the posts? Overall and breakdown by each? Whats the majority sentiment?

This is a good start but you gonna have to do better than that.

>> No.2219044

>>2218978
Is this processing all thread text or just headlines?

>> No.2219047

How are you scraping the data?

>>2219043
I can tell you're not a programmer. Deciphering the sentiment of a post is google-tier shit

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>>2218978
>selling /biz/ shilling to itself

diversify your sources and you've got a real product my man

>> No.2219053
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>>2219043
I am going to compare the top mentioned cars with other metrics, which I will then attach to the codebase, over the next few weeks.

In the meantime I figured you guys would be desperate for as much information as you can get, thanks for feedback tho

>> No.2219061

>>2219018
Far better than anything I could do bud, alphabetize them and it will be better

>> No.2219070

>>2219047
You can use AI features as plugins. For example Watson. They can they return a sentiment value.

>> No.2219079

>>2219043
Thanks for the idea. Imma do the same as op except with sentiment analysis and opensource it. Good excuse for me to brush up on my golang

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>>2219047
>How are you scraping the data?
>I can tell you're not a programmer.
kek

>>2219053
Sure man keep /biz posted

>>2219079
Go for it man

>> No.2219109

>>2219050

It's brilliant honestly.

I'll provide capital for this idea if someone gets a good business plan going.

I could easily get a grant from the government for this and I don't mind using some of my savings to get something like this on the market

>> No.2219110

>>2219079
don't break your head on sentiment analysis, there are API for that.

Check this one out: https://www.ibm.com/watson/developercloud/alchemy-language.html

Watson Alchemy

>> No.2219117

>>2218978
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OG3WMaWwJig

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>>2219079
you makeh me angery

how am i meant to buy lambos if mofos keep opensourcing shit.

anyway i wish you the best good luck

>> No.2219136

so i could copy and pasta "mooncoin" 100 times in 1 post and it'll come up as 100 hits?

or is it limited to 1 per post?

>> No.2219137

>>2219079
You're creating an oracle right? have you read up on aeternity.com and how they're going about it? They're using golang for that too I think

>> No.2219146

>>2219136

You should test it out.

I'll help:
mooncoin mooncoin mooncoin mooncoin mooncoin mooncoin mooncoin mooncoin

>> No.2219157

digibyte digibyte digibyte digibyte digibyte digibyte digibyte digibyte digibyte digibyte digibyte digibyte digibyte digibyte digibyte digibyte digibyte digibyte digibyte digibyte digibyte digibyte digibyte digibyte digibyte

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>>2219136
I guess I could limit it to one coin extraction per post.. thanks for the idea man.. appreciated

>>2219110
thanks for link, howeve rI believe sentiment analysis would just confused my algorithm as shillers tend to be liars D:

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>>2219146
does it track memes?

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>>2219146
>>2219157
ok testing now


hmmm thats weird they havent appeared, maybe oh shit yeah Im not doing a lowercase check

>> No.2219191

>>2219159
SO we could make a thread and in every post spew out every coin in existence to screw with it?

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>>2219180

This is a gud thread. Keep going anon! Bring /biz/ to the moon!

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>>2219157
>>2219146

fuck I dont know why digibyte isnt being picked up

it looks like mooncoin is, but not 8 times... wtf.... god damn bugs

>> No.2219213

Also can you scrape associated keywords like good,great,shitcoin,project,active,developers,dev,competition,win,news etc etc and pin them to the coins?

>> No.2219230

mfw ive been working on this as well

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>>2219213
yeah thats easy enough, but would that help? wouldnt that shit just confuse hte algorithm because of lies?

Basically I have a couple other sites Im going to cross reference my algo with to create a holy grail of an app ( im an optimist) , so if you guys have any ideas on what else I could cross reference with so we dont just get an algo poisoned by bag holding shills, then that would be great.

>>2219157
im sorry i have no idea why digibyte isnt showing =/

>>2219160
it doesnt do image analysis (yet... i dont think I will do thibit though) but lol pepe image recognition sounds funny. would it be good or bad to have a pepe shilled coin?

These screengrabs are only of the program running righ tnow, on the front page ( not all the pages ) maybe the thread gets pushed down and digibyte isnt detected?

>> No.2219254

Are you scraping the data directly from 4chan?

I can't imagine it would be difficult to create a live website that updates instantly from the past 24 hours

>> No.2219292

>>2219180
Do case insensitive searches, and also link abbreviations and whole words together, so that "eth" and "ethereum" are not 2 different entries.

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>>2219109
subscribe to the mailing list dude, it seems to be getting popular. If you want to email me, just wait for my first mail out and reply to th email


ok I ran a bigger build, for a few more biz pages, the results seem to change more than I expected

>>2219292
I could do that but Im not sure whether that is a priority at this stage, ill add it to the todo list

>> No.2219367

>>2219306
Dank,
What will you include in the 'final' build; do you think you'll be able to do the entirety of /biz/?
Also how many people on the mailing list now if you don't mind saying?

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2219377

lol, I can code this in java if you guys want and put it up on github for free, with BTC donation address of course :>

Anyone down? I can get it done in about an hour or two

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2219393

>>2219367
It can do the entirety of biz, its just like thousand posts so it takes about 10 minutes to run it. Ill start doing full runs with the mailouts once a day to the subscribers first.

Subscribers are just those who have participated in the thread I reckon, not like lots.

>> No.2219394

>>2219377
Kekspeed to you anon

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2219467

ok I scanned the whole board, here are the results.

Good night everyone , hopefully Ill get the mailout working in the morning.

>> No.2219480

>>2219429
Go away /g/

>> No.2219486

I actually made the same thing and linked it to info from coinmarketcap

some nice ideas in this thread for additional info


>>2219429
>>2219467

java does everything and is robust. Also why make it a mail list and not a public webservice?

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>>2218978
lol, have you never heard of clif high?

He already has a product like this but scans sources way beyond /biz/. He makes s killing on this scam too, some of his predictions are pretty damn accurate though, an exact halving may 22 - may 28th for ETH and that happened.

>> No.2219510

>>2219018
ignore that guy gj its cool

>> No.2219516

>>2218978

Great idea OP. I'm going to copy this idea and make a much better version.

>> No.2219520

>>2219109
There is already a coin for that. https://cryptoping.tech/

>> No.2219534

>>2219496
did you buy his report?

>> No.2219545

>>2219496
His site looks outdated and sketchy as fuck.

I should do the same thing and wrap it in a more legit looking package

>> No.2219547

SHUT IT DOWN

>> No.2219558

>>2219534
fuck no, it's not hard to get a fucking pdf document online

>> No.2219586

>>2219558
how can i find it?

>> No.2219604

I'm actually working on an AI as we speak that scrapes /biz/ and other forums, conducts sentimental analysis on shilled coins and does forecasting (monte-carlo) based on the sentiment

>> No.2219605

>>2219496
What websites does he scan for? I'm going to guess reddit right

>> No.2219638

>>2219605
The entire internet

>> No.2219675

>>2218978
if(op==faggot) {
killyourself;
}

>> No.2219676

>>2218978
>someone stole my idea

Fuck

>> No.2219680

>>2219604
What are you using for the AI

>> No.2219685

I just got a good eth domain to go with it for donations too

>> No.2219770

>>2219685
post it

>> No.2219779

>>2219675

Why don't you add an infinite loop in there.

To be sure he stays dead.

>> No.2219799

>>2219240
>what else I could cross reference with
can you plugin to twitter trends data?

>> No.2219804

>>2218978

Pastebin the code please OP.

>> No.2219812

>>2219770
biztrack.eth

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2219813

>>2219377
I don't have any btc senpai but I will in the future.

>> No.2219820

>>2219675
>>2219779

From my limited programing experience, I think I can keep him dead.

while (op == faggot){
killyourself;
opDeath++;
ConsoleWriteline("OP died: " + opDeath + " times");
}

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2219869

>>2219820
lol

let me help

while (OP.ID == 'V1uzlO8z' || anon!=subscribed && OP.ID==''E8S1iixX"){
OP.killyourself();
OP.Death++;
ConsoleWriteline("OP died: " + OP.Death + " times");
}

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>>2219869

>> No.2219908

>>2219869
>OP.ID == 'V1uzlO8z' || anon!=subscribed && OP.ID==''E8S1iixX"

are you retarded or something?

>> No.2219914

>>2218978
Holy shit OP you're going to make bank off this, all these gullible retards giving you their email addresses. You're going to have some premium mailing lists to sell to advertisers, have you thought about making a daily text messaging service too?

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>>2219902

>> No.2219971

>>2219939
you do realize that OP.ID == 'V1uzlO8z' && OP.ID==''E8S1iixX" can never be true right, so the check for OP.ID == 'V1uzlO8z' is completely unnecessary

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>>2219902
btw dude I am happy to collab, reply to my mail out.

>>2219914
people tend to sign up with throwaways. literally the only way ill make money it seems is if I get my follow up algorithm to actually work . key is always in the details and the implementation.

>> No.2219994

>>2219971
>while (OP.ID == 'V1uzlO8z' || anon!=subscribed && OP.ID==''E8S1iixX"){
>OP.killyourself();
>OP.Death++;
>ConsoleWriteline("OP died: " + OP.Death + " times");
>}
ah shit, sorry compiler man. Here we go:

while (OP.ID == 'V1uzlO8z' || (anon!=subscribed && OP.ID==''E8S1iixX") ){
OP.killyourself();
OP.Death++;
ConsoleWriteline("OP died: " + OP.Death + " times");

}

>> No.2219995

>>2219033

Do some UX design so I don't gauge my fucking eyes out. It isn't 1980 bitch.

>> No.2220023

>>2219680
Using TensorFlow to train the model. Going to scrap /biz/ and other sources about 2 years back and correlate it with coinmarketcap data. Then train the model on the combined dataset. I'll then incoporate this into a real-time service to make predictions based off of forum sentiment - apparently 80% of market movement is a result of forum activity

>> No.2220030

>>2219994
>>2219971
>>2219908
>>2219869
>>2219820
>>2219675

get out of this thread you literal fucking autists.

http://blog.stageslearning.com/blog/a-new-education-teaching-coding-to-students-with-autism

>> No.2220036

>>2220023
is there an archive of coinmarketcap data?

what kind of neural net do you use?

>> No.2220040

>>2220023
Hey mate, I'm going to be posting my source in this thread in a few hours. Wanna collab?

>> No.2220121

>>2220036
I'm hoping I can build a scraping tool which will extract data from the coinmarketcap charts (e.g. 7th November 2015 it will scrap all coins on market for current cap, volume, price etc.).

Will also be using a recurrent neural net. If I can get it to work then I'll be adding in technical indicators (MACD, RSI etc.) into the mix too and see what the results are like

>> No.2220125

>>2220023
Where did you study to learn all this?

>> No.2220140

>>2220121
Neat, sounds exactly like the approach I was gonna use, though I am using dl4j on top of spark instead of tensorflow


>>2220125
You can find all the information online really, there's many machien learning tutorials out there now.

>> No.2220176

I don't quite understand.

What is a "moon coin"?

Is it for buying from bottom baring businesses?

Looks good though anyway well done!

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2220179

I see the thread has now filled with all sorts of weird CS shills loudly proclaiming how they are going to hook up regression modelling with tensorflow and create a portal into a new Biz dimension.

Dont forget to add a coffee cup holder guys.

>> No.2220214

>>2220023
>"apparently 80% of market movement is a result of forum activity"

is this true? anyone have a source for this?

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>>2220179
gave me a keke tbqh lad

>> No.2220260

>>2220214
reddit, just google it

>> No.2220281

Bum coins

>> No.2220289

>>2219070
https://www.ibm.com/watson/developercloud/doc/tone-analyzer/index.html

>> No.2220325

>>2220121
If this takes off, you should definitely share the wealth of knowledge here on /biz/. If enough /biz/realites get rich we can all share the wealth.

Were you planning on sharing the info through an email subscription like OP or were you just going to do it for personal data analysis?

>> No.2220345

>>2220325
If you had the possibility to predict the market, why would you think he would share it?

>> No.2220353

>>2220260

guessing that's a joke. i already had googled it and found nothing so im presuming its not true

>> No.2220383

>>2220345
Just to be helpful/kind enough to share I guess. He could also charge a subscription for the info but that's assuming he would go full Schlomo Shekelstein on everyone.

>> No.2220392

>>2220383
>Just to be helpful/kind enough to share I guess
lmao fuck off

>> No.2220394

>>2220353
literally took me 10 seconds

https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/6cfwir

>> No.2220444

>>2220383
You realize YOU'RE being the schlomo for wanting free shit right

>> No.2220474

>>2220444
You're not wrong.

>>2220392
maybe later, this thread has potential.

>> No.2220497

Already started my own implementation of this idea.

Got all the pulling data from 4chan down and some basic sentiment analysis going. Needs many hours of work before I'd feel as though I'd have a product I could charge money for, so I may share what I have when im a bit further along and have a basic PoC.

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>>2220394

ah, the google fu is strong with this one :) thank you, kind sir, and enjoy the reddit gold!

anyway, unfortunately (or maybe fortunately considering we're on /biz/), this article says that it's not that 80% of price movement is influenced by forum posts, it's that's some Korean software was just able to correctly predict the price movement 80% of the time based on forum posts on bitcointalk.org.

but the question we're all wondering: can it predict bitbean's?

>> No.2220549

>>2218978
OP, I've thought about doing this a few times. It's a pretty good data analysis tool to see what's being shilled, and given enough time you might be able to calculate entry / exit points. Behold, the shill oscillator.

Mailing list is kind of 'meh' though, this needs pushed to a web front-end of some kind. Like other anons said, It's 2017 bro.

>>2219496
Clif's methods are a little different, supposedly he scrapes the net for repeated terms and assigns them an 'emotional sum' based on the terminology around it, or something like that. His interpretations absolutely suck however, while for crypto he's been doing OK, many of his calls have been total garbage and are likely clouded by personal bias.

IIRC he's saying something like $13k BTC in Q1 2018 (But of course, if you want to know more, now you need to buy his $100 reports.).

I think the tools he is using should be explored more rigorously (Like, actual academic papers, etc.); but at the level he's using them it's only about as good as a horoscope.

>> No.2220619

>>2220549

not to mention he is, by his own admission, poor.

>> No.2221954

>>2220121
How do you plan to scan forums that need a login?

>> No.2222169

>>2218978
Holy fuck, I had the exact same idea, down to the "top 100 coins". But I also realised /biz/ shills some obscure coins that moon, so I thought of including a list of new coins too. Nice that you try to turn this into a subscription service.

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ok guys Im going to try and put it online now

>> No.2222915

I have an implementation of this. I will make a website soon.

>> No.2223470

>>2218978
great job. I am honestly jealous anon. I wish I knew how to do that. I could figure out how, but you're probably a lot more familiar with the libraries than I am. That's pretty cool. I wish I could do that.

>> No.2223496

I did this and it you wont get any extra profits.
Idea aint original or worthwhile. Anyway GL

>> No.2223503

>>2218978
>paying for 20 lines python script that scrapes webpages, do wordcount and emailing results

kek

>> No.2223530

>>2223503
>Not realising there's a 4chan API to use.

kek

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>>2223530
Im using the 4chan API , how else would I do it?

>>2223503
I'm offering the service for free.

Thanks for the bumps though guys.

>> No.2224272

Would it be possible to graph all the daily data for an entire year

>> No.2224447

>>2219018
if 4chan hates it, it means it's good, they always like to act the contraversial but inside they like it themselves.

>> No.2224696

Did u already send the list?

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>>2224696
Still working on it, deploying it onto a server is taking more time than expected ( I also had some other non programming stuff to do) but yeah should be soonish, sorry for the delay

>> No.2225507

>>2223692
>how else would I do it?
"Testing" frameworks. But don't ever learn that shit.