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>> No.21960361

Is it time to get some shorts?

>> No.21960364

First for gas all kikes

>> No.21960371

When will CLIS moon ?

>> No.21960384

>>21960364

2nd and 1st for fuck black people.

>> No.21960397

Nth for gas all christians because they're just kikes in disguise

>> No.21960402
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>>21960345
fuckin gay lunchtime apple. Does that make it a
>crabapple

>> No.21960405
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21960405

NVDA

>> No.21960407

WEW glad I sold CLSK last week. Will it ever go back up again???

>> No.21960409

10 CCL $15.5p 9/4

>> No.21960441
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21960441

Reminder

>> No.21960442

Any weekend hold dips? I went mostly cash but I'm willing to toss 1k on a yolo. Seems like a lot of people are liquidated before end of month.

>> No.21960475

OH NO BOND BROS WE GOT TOO COCKY!!!!

>> No.21960482
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>>21960271
basically what most retail does is they'll put their stop loss behind a market structure, like a pivot or really obvious support level. MM's will often use this to their advantage because they pay brokerages to look at the order flow and can see if there are a bunch of orders there, and if it is really obvious they will manipulate price down there to knock out all of the stop losses to get the liquidity they need before taking the price higher. happens all the time. happening on TSLA right now in fact, just knocked out the LoD crowd. the more obvious it is the more likely it is to happen, you'll notice the big volume bars when price breaks those areas because of it.

notice the volume spike and then bottoming tail into reversal as it broke LoD, classic stop loss run.

>> No.21960491

>>21960405
Buy the rumor, sell the news. Enjoy the profits before the announcement next tuesday. In fact I expect a big tech sell-off next week.

>> No.21960494

WHY WOULD ANYONE SELL AAPL TODAY AAAAAAAAAA WHY GREEN LINE NOT GO UP

>> No.21960509
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21960509

Is the MSFT run over.. I think I bought the top boys

>> No.21960527

I AM FINANCIALLY RUINED BY MY EXPIRING AAPL OPTIONS

>> No.21960529

>>21960475
Why does anyone use bonds? If you want to not beat inflation over 30 years get a savings account.

>> No.21960538

>>21960509
yes if your time scale is 1 day

>> No.21960544
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>>21960494
zoom out zoomer, stop looking at the 1m chart retard, don't even look at it for at least a month and thank me later.

>> No.21960557

>>21960527
Maybe you should sell options instead?

>> No.21960563

>>21960529
boomer yield
foreigners relying on longin dollar

>> No.21960584

I've always just bought and hodl'd but I'm interested in selling covered calls. Should I bother?

>> No.21960590

if youre going to buy a stock do you use a limit order and try to get it cheaper at some point throughout the day or do you just buy at current price

>> No.21960600

>>21960557
I SOLD PUT SPREADS, THEY'RE EXPIRING ITM, MY WHOLE ACCOUNT WAS COLLATERAL, AAAAAAAAAA

>> No.21960602

SPY has me spooked

>> No.21960619

>>21960491
Why would it tank? Normies are going to buy the overpriced pieces of shit, and it doesn't mean much for datacenter.

>> No.21960622

>>21960590

if it gaps up in the morning or is on a huge run always wait for a pullback before you buy

>> No.21960626

>WKHS HOLY SHIT THAT DUMPED HARDER THAN USUAL

>> No.21960635

>>21960544
WHO THE FUCK BUYS STOCKS, YOU'RE SUPPOSED TO GAMBLE YOUR WHOLE NET WORTH ON WEEKLY OPTIONS AND POST AAAAAAAAAAS HERE WHEN YOU LOSE

>> No.21960661

>>21960635
relax your entire net worth is probably only $2k.

>> No.21960669

>>21960475
Only you got cocky
We all know the bogs hate your guts

>> No.21960684

>>21960600
I meant sell covered calls.

>> No.21960698

AAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH
TSLA GET FUCKED
HABBBBEENING

>> No.21960701

>>21960491
I want more shares so I hope it tanks to a buyable range for me.

>> No.21960704

>>21960590
Depends on the stock. Generally limit order though. If its a blue chip like apple last week before what you believe to be a pump, mkt buy was fine. But if its a 6 dollar stock every dime knda counts so those I will target a dip heavily on

>> No.21960709

>>21960584
Practice paper money first, get the virtual experience of losing everything in 1sec.

>> No.21960713

>>21960600
>leveraging your entire folio at once
I would say NGMI but you already know

>> No.21960716

>>21960698
-0.42%

fuck you retard

>> No.21960720
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21960720

THIS IS NOT A DRILL
THE STOCK MARKET RESTS ON THIS WOMAN/MANS SHOULDERS

>> No.21960730

>>21960590
i usually use market orders for stocks/etfs and limits for options.

>> No.21960737

>>21960600
Did you write them for like $505, you fucking retard?

>> No.21960748

>>21960716
AAAAAAAGHHHHHH I AM RUINED

>> No.21960756

>>21960544
after declaring not after actually splitting.... shit i shouldve bought earlier than the 470s oops

>> No.21960757
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>>21960698
BTFDYFI

>> No.21960769

https://www.barrons.com/articles/workhorse-horsefly-drone-gets-panned-51598631785?siteid=yhoof2&yptr=yahoo

>A logistics firm that bought and tested an early version of Workhorse’s (ticker: WKHS) drone, called HorseFly, says the product suffers from critical quality issues, including poor navigation software and substandard construction. The logistics company Unmanned Systems Operations Group, or USOG, said in its letter that it was unable to fly the drones as a result.

>> No.21960776

>>21960698
Big red dildo lmao

>> No.21960782
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DON'T HIDE JUST BUY

>> No.21960784

Anyone here intentionally lose trades in fear that your broker's algo might pick up something from you and screw you over.

>> No.21960801
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21960801

Rural retard here, am i retarded for securing these gains today

>> No.21960803

>>21960784
no

>> No.21960813

>>21960769
>In its letter, the private San Diego firm identified what it sees as roughly 25 issues with the HorseFly drone, including taped and glued-on components and corroding materials. The company said a communications antenna had come detached from the unmanned aerial vehicles, according to the June letter to Workhorse.

OH NO NO NO NO NO

>> No.21960816

>>21960784
Ahaha yeah, intentionally

>> No.21960820

>>21960801
no. all gains are good gains.

>> No.21960823
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21960823

Is decay a meme? Is there a good reason I shouldn’t hold FNGU, TQQQ, SPXL, and SOXL long term?
I have price alerts set up, so I can mitigate the risk. However, I don’t completely understand how a 3x ETF can “decay”.

>> No.21960826

>>21960801
what's your play?

>> No.21960831

>>21960720
BUY OR SELL $LEGO?
WHAT ABOUT $NUCLEARCODES?

>> No.21960842

>>21960823
It's a fucking meme. Only matters for shit ETFs.

>> No.21960846

>>21960769
>https://www.barrons.com/articles/workhorse-horsefly-drone-gets-panned-51598631785?siteid=yhoof2&yptr=yahoo
Buy the dip. Nobody cares about the drone.

>> No.21960860

what are some good movies about stocks?

>> No.21960858

>>21960823
>Is decay a meme?
Depends on volatility. Compare jnug to spxl.

>> No.21960871

>>21960769
Workhorse is a mom and pop shop. What did you expect? Lmao

>> No.21960891

>>21960846
>buy my bags pls

>> No.21960902

>>21960860
Boiler Room

>> No.21960906

>>21960860
I enjoyed the Wolf of Wall Street and Margin Call

>> No.21960911

>>21960345
Wtf that anon was right about aeye

>> No.21960914

>>21960709
>lose everything on a covered call on a stock you're 20+% up on
Okay

>> No.21960924
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21960924

CLOSE ABOVE 3500 S&P! COME ON BABY

>> No.21960926

>niggers really still shilling Workhorse

Lmfao

>> No.21960929
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>>21960720
Ivanka never said Joseph built the lego, did she? Is the point of her tweet only to sneer at Trumpfags? Because that would make her look like a total idiot.

>> No.21960933

It's the end of the month, what did you learn this month?
I learned that I've started overthinking everything and being overly contrarian in my trades. I should listen to my lizard brain and make the obvious wins. I with I could unlearn TA, because it doesn't fucking matter. Buy the dip. All in all I made 8k into 9k and I guess that's okay. If I had just bought Amzn, AAPL and TSLA I would've done better.

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>>21960720

>> No.21960942

>>21960661
Yes.
>>21960684
Can't afford 100 shares.
>>21960713
But that's how you get updoots from epic YOLOs.
>>21960737
Yes. 510/505. Short leg ITM and long leg OTM at the time. I did a similar thing selling ITM put spreads on TSLA and made like $5k when it mooned.

>> No.21960944

>>21960584

If you’re holding 100 shares of anything there is absolutely NO reason to not sell coveted calls. Sell for a strike over your average cost and it’s profit.

>> No.21960949
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>>21960826
This is all i do. Rsx ashr tqq, my lizard brain is too small to do more

>> No.21960955

Which boomer industries are still down right now? I want to have a couple hundred in there so I dont feel like I miss out when they eventually recover. Airlines and hotels seem to have already started their upward trend (I had some MGM, MAR, LUV, DAL which I sold once I was 3% up) so what else should I be looking at?

>> No.21960959
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21960959

>mandate benchmarks for hiring people of color
Implying affirmative action isn't a thing already for boeing.

>> No.21960968

>>21960891
Nigga I'm short.

>> No.21960972

>>21960949
neato

>> No.21960990

>>21960860
Boiler Room
Wolf of Wall St
The Big Short
There's another one about a Brit who goes to Honk Kong and fucks up a ton of company money, cooks all the books, and keeps going big on horrible gambles to get out but just digs his grave deeper. He ended up leaving the Bank of England or Royal Bank or whatever completely rekt. 'Based' on a true story or whatever

>> No.21960994

QQQ selloff
SPY gains
Looks like today is another tech selloff.
Are you buying the dip?

>> No.21960999

>Wanna but FNGU
>It comes up as "Bank of Montreal" on Fidelity

Is this just a fuckup on their part? Its fucking chart looks right but I don't wanna invest in a fucking bank by accident. What the fuck, Fidelity?

>> No.21961003

>>21960933
I learnt how to lose more money than I've made

>> No.21961005

who else thinks aapl and tsla will dump and bring the rest of qqq down with them next week? maybe starting tuesday.

>> No.21961011

>>21960959
i never understood why you guys are seething about this it won't effect you you'll just see more black people getting jobs move on

>> No.21961018
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>>21960959
>fired almost everyone
>but also we hiring black people
My company hired a diversity ceo and now my entire branch closed. Coincidence?

>> No.21961019

>>21960994
what selloff everything is green?

>> No.21961020

>>21960959
Fucking niggers are taking everyone's job. They get pandered by Democrats and Republicans. These fucking niggers have the MSM,social media,corporations, colleges,jobs,they have everything pander to them how tf can one race be so useless amd stupid to believe their oppressed. I fucking hate niggers.

>> No.21961029

>>21960990
>>21960860
I always thought Margin Call and 1987 Wall Street were the best

>> No.21961030
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21961030

Anyone else holding KR?

Did we just get cucked by Bezos?

>> No.21961038

>>21961011
it will affect their shareholders, negatively.

>> No.21961040
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21961040

nio chads we got too cocky

>> No.21961045

>>21960999
Never mind, I just realized that Bank of Montreal is the bank that actually offers the ETF. Was misleading because of how Fidelity cuts off the full name.

>> No.21961047

>>21961038
how so?

>> No.21961055

>>21961019
Tech selloff from the ATH a few days ago.

>> No.21961061

>>21961011

Because it’s garbage and those could be jobs for whites or anyone else. If a place said they were going to hire 20% more whites all hell would break lose.

>> No.21961066

>>21960999
It's BMO (Bank Montreal) Finacial Group Microsectors FANG+ 3X Leveraged Bull ETN which is a lot of fucking words

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>>21960902
>>21960906
>>21960990
>>21961029
thanks bros

>> No.21961076
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>>21960994
>Are you buying the dip?

Does a bear shit in the woods? It's tech during a pandemic ffs. Literally zero risk in the long term.

>> No.21961083

>>21960949
shares or options?

>> No.21961099

>>21961047
cost of opportunity of hiring negroes vs. hiring south east asians or mexicans, more braincells per $

>> No.21961104

>nigger coworker (50 year old grandmother) dissapeaes for 3 days
>shows up today telling everyone how her 35-40 year old nigger sons got into a huge fight and ran eachother over with their trucks
>one drove through the other house completely destroying it
>in retaliation the other pinned that one against the house and broke both his legs
>one pinned shoots the driver
>both have been in surgery for two days straight

the absolute state of blacks

>> No.21961109

>>21961011
Cause niggers get special privileges and they take away jobs from young zoomers like me who are still working towards getting their degrees. But oh I'm supposed to feel sorry for these niggers even though these fucking faggots face the same problems as my" community" but all they do is bitch and complain and destroy every city they go to. For fucks sake I live in a city that has the same poverty rate as the one next to us but guess which one is more deadlier? That's right the one with these dirty fucking monkeys is more fucking dirty,ghetto, and deadlier

>> No.21961111

>>21960994
I spent all my money so no

>> No.21961127
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>>21961104

>> No.21961130

I hate that I don't have more money to dump into NVDA

>> No.21961132
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21961132

TSLA peak reached?

>> No.21961136
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>>21960959

>>>/wsg/3600707

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>>21960959
Fire up those busses

>> No.21961147

>>21961132
yeah you should short it :^)

>> No.21961148

>>21961130
Same ;_;

>> No.21961155

How fucking shitty do you have to be to lose your job to a nigger?

>> No.21961156

>>21961109
Stop being a fucking pussy.

>> No.21961157

>>21960959
>Boeing product failure at ATH

So puts on BA?

>> No.21961171

>park my money in Amazon a few days ago

Surely this will be a comfy hold and go up some

>does nothing but go down

Fuckn bagholding Amazon

>> No.21961181

>TSLA

It's really a love hate relationship having so much of my portfolio in this fucking meme

>> No.21961182

>>21960955
*If they recover*

>> No.21961188

Fuck it markets euphoric there’s no bulls left in loading up on SQQQ

>> No.21961197
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>>21961104
im so happy i was born white instead of black.

>> No.21961201

I bought AAPL FDs on Monday and lost most of my account.

>> No.21961203
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>>21961147
that is not the hill I want to die on

>> No.21961208

>>21961156
Lmao stfu nigger everyone hates your kind for a fucking reason

>> No.21961221
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>>21960933
Absolutely nothing

>> No.21961224

>>21961136
>87.4%

kek how do you think warren voted?

>> No.21961230

>>21961132
There is no peak, son.

>> No.21961261

>>21960933
>TA
a literal useless meme

>> No.21961273

>>21960955
Banks and energy

>> No.21961277
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21961277

I feel like an absolute retard for not selling when this wears worth $1200, or $1000, or $800, or $700

Is this how poorfags stay poor, with greed?

>> No.21961288

>>21960933
>what did you learn this month?
That nothing matters in this market besides hype

>> No.21961290

>>21961230
Is Tesla officially zoomer bitcoin?

>> No.21961291

what time tesla pum to 2300 again?? power time?

>> No.21961302
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21961302

>spy/qqq has a hint of red
>vix spikes
kek
the entire market is playing musical chairs right now

>> No.21961318

Did you guys go to study economics? Are there any book recommendations? Because I'm just some wage slave that has too much free time at work.

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21961324

I'm sorry guys. I just purchased FNGU.
It was my fault.

>> No.21961327

Why are att and Verizon so low? They’re both constructing so much 5g infrastructure and everyone’s on their phones all day

>> No.21961332

>>21961011
>flying in plane where 20% was made by niggers just because muh nigger quota.
yea nothing bad will come of this.

>> No.21961344

>>21961302
Realized vol is much lower than VIX lately and yet it refuses to go down. Odd times for sure.

>> No.21961353

Went from +$120 today to -$16. These days are the worst and most boring im about to Crack open a beer and actually do my fucking job

>> No.21961357

>>21961083
Only options for leverage

>> No.21961364

i own 1 share of TSLA at 2255. if it gets down to 2000 i'll buy another share idgaf. i guarantee you this will be worth more money regardless of where you buy it by battery day (relative to the split price of course).

already looks like it's reversing and put in the bottom but i unironically hope it goes lower, i'll buy up to 5 shares total and this is money i can afford to lose so let's fucking GO

>> No.21961373

>>21961290
yes

>> No.21961386

>>21961011
Because hiring anyone for any reason besides them being the best fit for the specific position they are applying for makes no sense.

>> No.21961391

>>21961364
>buying the literal fucking top

OH NO NO NO NO

>> No.21961392

SPY is going to tank, lads

all these figures are propped up by overhearing printers, get out now

>> No.21961395

>>21961277

Being greedy? Yeah about 50% of the time that’s it, the other 50 is being impatient. Greed and impatience will ruin you in the market.

>> No.21961413

moved into the selling covered calls stage. Still wary of crazy upside vol though so way OTM lottos.

>> No.21961423
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21961423

>TSLA
>AAPL
yeah i think its over

>> No.21961431
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21961431

horsebros we got btfo again I might kill myself tonight

>> No.21961435

>>21960933
I learned that there is no reason to own anything other than tech and really no reason to own anything other than TQQQ / FNGU.
I learned that DCA'ing is almost always better than trying to time.
I learned that silver is a jewish meme.
I already knew this one but kind of got away from it. Which is, don't buy anything you don't think is worth holding longterm and is the best choice to put your money in across all asset classes.
I learned that just because something is down doesn't mean it will go up.
I learned that buying the open vs buying the mid day makes no difference. If the stock is going to go up it's going to go up and if it's going to go down it's going to go down. You can edge yourself a few extra bucks but it isn't going to matter long term and you're best bet is to just focus more on the right companies / sectors / etfs rather than the right time or the right meme play.

>> No.21961438

>>21961392
bobo give up
you've been wrong for nearly 6 months now

>> No.21961444

Is cinemark a good gamble? I figure either Hollywood shuts down for good, or cinemark goes up, and I wouldn’t mind being out a few grand if it means Hollywood is gone

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21961449

>>21961364

>> No.21961468

>>21961423
the split hasn't even happened yet, BTFD

>> No.21961473

>>21961364
>let's fucking GO
Cringe.

>> No.21961496

>>21960491
That's what bears say literally every week. Show puts

>> No.21961528
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21961528

Can QQQ stop beating around the bush and dump so my puts can print?

>> No.21961531

Did you guys really think TSLA was going to hit the floor?

>> No.21961538

>>21961444

Hollywood won’t shut down for good but theatres won’t be as big as they were. People are waking up to kike bullshit and the ones that aren’t are staying in with Netflix. There’s some upside there but movies won’t ever be as big as they were in the past 10-15 years again.

>> No.21961554

>>21961531
None of this matters anyway. What happens during power hour will be key.

>> No.21961556

>>21961528
It will never dump. Imagine fighting the fed

>> No.21961577

>>21961528
>puts on the future (tech)

you can't be serious

>> No.21961590

>>21961554
>power hour
>Friday
you realize Friday is the dump day right?

>> No.21961601

I've still got about a grand to put into something, any weekend hodls you guys have been looking at?

>> No.21961609

>>21961554
I mean sure, for like today. Unless you guys are swing trading or have options expiring soon I don't know why it matters.
Watching green line go up is fun and all but over time TSLA is obviously going to be worth more so it's kind of pointless to all worked up over one day's volatility

>> No.21961613

>>21961538
Remember how 90s anime had to have a good story because animation was so expensive they couldn’t afford crap? What if the same thing happens to movies now?

>> No.21961614
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>>21961577

Tech is the future! Eat the bugs! Hold my IPA!

>> No.21961625
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>>21960345

Since the Fed wants to acquire a higher inflation, wouldnt it be the best to buy commodity related stonks aka Gold , Oil , Nickel etc. since they are limited by nature?

I dont know but i smell heavy money in commodity stonks the next 10 yrs.

Tech is fine but without commodity there wouldnt be any tech at all.

Also XOM & RDSB and other Oilbros , REPORT IN!

>> No.21961645

>>21961601
TQQQ calls.

>> No.21961658

>>21961614
Are you implying it isnt?

>> No.21961664

>>21961614
Yes. 99% of the market subscribes to those views, doesn't matter what the epic anonymoose legion thinks.

>> No.21961669

just bought 1 share of aapl, am I dumb?

>> No.21961684

All in on apple or split it between AMD?

>> No.21961689

>>21961613

It’s peaked. Every story worth telling has been told twice over. They’ll keep recycling the same comic heroes we’ve had for the past 100 years with the cast slowly getting blacker and they’ll re-tell the lord of the rings Star Wars and Harry Potter for the 4th time over each. The computer animation is objectively better than ever but it all looks the fuckin same.

>> No.21961692

>>21961614
Have fun losing all your money retard

>> No.21961703

>>21961684
split

>> No.21961705

>>21960698
>down 1%
>up 10% overall if you bought earlier this week
if you sell now you’re unbelievably stupid

>> No.21961709

>>21961669
Same
>$500 average price

>> No.21961711
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21961711

??? whats going on why are we dumping

>> No.21961716

>>21961613
no, while I liked the older art styles better, I am pretty certain the stories were equally ass. Just the Love Hina romcom tropes weren't set in stone and beaten to death yet.

>> No.21961746

STOP DUMPING FUCK

>> No.21961756

>>21961711
Friday

>> No.21961764

>>21961746
i want to dump so I can open more new positions though

>> No.21961782
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21961782

Brothers. It's time. They made fun of us. Well, nobody's laughing now

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>> No.21961791
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21961791

>TSLA and AAPL both red

>> No.21961797
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21961797

GROUND CONTROL TO MAJOR TOM

>> No.21961804

>>21961658
>>21961664
>>21961692

It’s the future but it isn’t one worth looking forward to. That shit sucks and the tech loving OMG I JUST LOVE SCIENCE crowd are a bunch of pencil dick Melvins who are going to be highly upset when the reality of what future is and all this “progress” is at their front door.

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21961816

>MFW I unironically thought TSLA would hit 2500 today
>bought more shares at 2240
aaaaaaaaaaaaAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHH

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>>21961716
Disagree. Cel animation is much better. Sure, it's harder, but it forces animators to focus on more important things. The one on the left actually looks like hair. The one on the right looks weird. It's kind of like how during the PS3/Xbox 360 video game generation where everything tried to look realistic even though hardware couldn't really do it well. Everything in most anime now looks really weird because it's too detailed.

>> No.21961825

Buy
The
Dip

>> No.21961827

who bbuying the dip rn

>> No.21961833
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21961833

>>21961692

>> No.21961835
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21961835

Dollar lost almost 1% today and people are unironically selling to get into depreciating cash.

>> No.21961837

>>21960482
>they pay brokerages to look at the order flow
Sometimes but it's not really necessary for stop loss sniping. Push price just a tich below closest support and it will hit a bunch every time. Order flow is very handy for some other stuff but not needed for this particular technique.

>> No.21961843

>>21961827
>>21961825
>not opening positions in both sides
ngmi

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21961844

>>21961590
It is also the last day for 2 companies with forward splits. In peak clown market that we're in, its dangerous to assume things will be like they usually are.
>>21961609
The cult following elon strong, so we'll see how crazy this run will be up to and after battery day.

>> No.21961846

>>21961827
I have no cash. 14k all in the mkt right now

>> No.21961864

thoughts on consumer staples from here? to avoid inflation?

>> No.21961866

>>21961711
Jerome takes a long lunch on Friday

>> No.21961872

>>21961625
I sold the last of my oil bags to get into AMD today. Sorry oil bros. I'll be back later.

>> No.21961882

>>21961817
Anon, he said he agreed with the older style being superior. He was disagreeing with the story quality being better.

>> No.21961888

>>21960720
Imagine being such a spiteful cunt you include children in your twatter shitposts.

>> No.21961891

>>21961833
why must people always refer back to tulips or coins that have 0 value.

>> No.21961896

>>21961804
i don't know what you're talking about dude, im just here to make money. until covid is over, tech is where all the money is going, why fight it?

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21961906

>>21961804
>It’s the future but it isn’t one worth looking forward to.
And that is exactly why I am making money to live a happy life in a forest hut and escape this bug-man dystopia.

>> No.21961908

>>21961804
is this /pol/? who cares as long as we make money

>> No.21961913

>>21961882
oh okay im just stupid then.

>> No.21961920

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
I BOUGHT THE FUCKING TOP OF THE SHARE SPLIT HYPE, IT'S GOING ALL THE WAY BACK DOWN NOW, WHAT HAVE I DONE

>> No.21961929

What mobile browsers do you niggers use? Firefox's new update just keeps rebooting my phone and I want ublock origins

>> No.21961930

>>21960860
Documentaries are best. The smartest men in the room is good. It's about Enron.

>> No.21961936

>>21961804
I unironically think Uncle Ted was right and I am a National Socialist who invests in the stock market using triple levered ETFs.
Just because you think something is retarded and don't like it doesn't mean you can't be realistic about the facts that
A) It will be profitable
B) You can not do shit without capital

>> No.21961937

>>21961601
DOCU, and I'm pissed at myself for not realizing that this company is publicly traded.

>> No.21961939

>>21961684
either is fine, im split between them myself but i just put a lump sum into AAPL pre-split to hold until the elections and i buy the dip and swing trade AMD over and over with the other half.

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>>21961920
Buy Tesla, goyim! It's free money, goyim!

>> No.21961954

>>21961804
Anon this is a finance board

>> No.21961972

>>21961614
There's nothing wrong with IPA

>> No.21961973

>>21961011
Affirmative action is THE ONLY institutional racism in practice in the US. It is antithesis of equal opportunity.

>> No.21961975
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21961975

Paycheck today, I have 500€ cash what do I buy?

>> No.21961985

Where will TQQQ be next week? 160 or 140

>> No.21961986

>>21961908

Everywhere is pol if you’re based enough.

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21961989

Buy oil. Something big is gonna happen next week. Screencap this.

>> No.21961991

>>21961837
the key though is understanding breakouts vs. false breakouts. this is a very good video on the matter that has ultimately made me very profitable trading both breakouts and false breakouts (short version: consolidation before the breakout vs. an extended move into the breakout): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n_qgPGPTBEE

>> No.21961999

>>21961891
Because it provides a practical basis for a thesis against purely random hypothetical narrative constructs and sentiment with no evidence or meaningful structure.

>> No.21962002

>>21961985
165

>> No.21962004

>>21961972
Its faggot shit and tastes like grass. Grow up

>> No.21962014

>>21961985
170

>> No.21962022

>>21961975
More NVDA

>> No.21962033
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21962033

>>21961985
110

>> No.21962039

Why has affirmative action not been contested in the supreme court? It seems clear cut. Im so sick of this shit. I have to work amongst niggers all the time because of this shit

>> No.21962042

>>21961989
Are commodities just another boomer meme?

>> No.21962053

give it to me straight bros

i work a dead end job making $11/hr

but i have $31K saved up, meaning i can do as many day trades as i want

should i quit my job and become a day trader who babysits TQQQ all day?

>> No.21962055

>>21962033
GO AWAY BEAR
GO AWAY GO AWAY GO AWAY GO AWAY GO AWAY
GO AWAY GO AWAY
GO AWAY
GO AWAY
GO AWAY GO AWAY GO AWAY GO AWAY

>> No.21962076
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21962076

What do you do when a stock you're holding has blasted past any reasonable price target and just keeps going?

>> No.21962079

>>21962022
yeah i gonna do that

>> No.21962087

>>21962053
No. Working, putting everything will can in TQQQ and doing 0 day trading will earn you far more.

>> No.21962088

>>21961985
Idk but I ain't selling for a fuckin loss

>> No.21962096

What can I buy that will pump during power hour?

>> No.21962101

>>21962053
>should i quit my job
no

and keep most of your savings

>> No.21962106

>>21962053
even better
>quit or leave job because of covid
>file unemployment
you'll make more a week in gibs than you did working, and you'll be able to daytrade
Kind of jealous I can't do this desu

>> No.21962109

Anyone get extremely pissed off at random times because of all the niggatry in this country? I cant even work right now im so fucking mad. My nigger coworker keeps talking about how her kids tried to kill eachother and now theyre clogging up the hospital with their stupid shit. I want to shove a pencil in her stupid beady nigger eyes

>> No.21962118

>>21962053
No you should get a job making more than $11 an hour.

>> No.21962128

>>21960959
Thank god I sold that shit, dont they have enough quality issues already? Fucking mopes

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21962138

Stonks only go up

>> No.21962148

>>21962053
Continue working (or find a better paying job) and invest as much of your paycheck as you can each month.

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is this a buy?

>> No.21962152

>>21962087
Working and trading will net you more but working takes a toll on some people, so it might be better in the long run to just not

>> No.21962160

>>21962109
Yes, based.

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>>21962109
>wanting to wageslave for someone hat employs female chimps
?????????
...

>> No.21962188

Sell all SHLL now

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>>21961872

Why would you buy AMD at the end of this Economic cycle?

Also AMD is financially worse than Intel.

The thing is that Intel can allow itself mistakes, AMD cannot.

Intel is in numbers by far better than AMD, plus its getting bashed because nerds "hurr durr no 3Nm??!??!? durrrrrr im sell durrr"

They gonna catch up on 3Nm like everyone else but they still gonna be more profitable than AMD.

Well good luck to you my formerly Oilbro.
Dont forget to take a look on us now and then, cheers

>> No.21962245

just let this day be over so I can look at my 400 apple shares and pretend that i'm rich for a second

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>>21960345
I had a terrible first week

>> No.21962298

Wew laddy! Denny pushing for the meaty resistance at 12 today. After that it just has the thinner one from the spring short squeeze before moving in to March corona crash zone with all its gaps.

>> No.21962302

Why the fuck is WDC up so much today?
I can't find any happening on it.

>> No.21962306

>>21962274
its okay it happens anon

>> No.21962313

>>21962274
Dont worry anon every ones first week/month is horrible, in time you will learn and make money

>> No.21962322

>>21962152
nobody knows if a stock's going up, down or fucking sideways, least of all stock brokers. But we have to pretend we know.

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How much longer are we going to keep clack-clack-clacking up, ratking?

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>>21962313
It's true. Here's my first month. I'm not discouraged though. I understand my mistakes.

>> No.21962342

>tech already recovering

and it isn't even power hour yet lmao hope you guys bought the dip

>> No.21962345

>>21962274
Pretty good, keep it up and eventually you'll be losing thousands a day like us!

>> No.21962349

Come on TSLA, stay green. I know you can close out at 2300 today.

>> No.21962360

>>21962193
>they're gonna catch up to 3nm
they literally had to buy 7nm chips from TSM lol instad of making it in house. literally BTFO

>> No.21962376

>>21962339
You can easily recover that amount. Just learn your lessons and make yourself a better investor / trader or whatever you do.

>> No.21962393

Anyone MNK?

>> No.21962402

Can someone explain TQQQ in depth?

>How is it not a huge fucking bubble?

>what is the ceiling?

>when will it slow down?

>> No.21962409

>>21962339
lmao how does this even happen, just hodl

>> No.21962412

Our girl Tasha is going to be on Yahoo Finance in a minute.

https://twitter.com/arkinvest/status/1299351843445846022?s=21

arkinv.st/31zaKwe

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>>21962109
>>21961104
>have meeting
> black woman says her 24 year old son got arrested
>because people at a local gym called the police over their POC soccer game
>pity party for 30 minutes
>"Just dont clutch your purse around POC"
>"this is why we need diversity"
>"this is Trumps America"

>> No.21962438

>>21962053
continue waging and investing into stocks. try CC and dividends on stocks.

>> No.21962443

>>21961937
it’s for boomers right?

>> No.21962454

>>21962402
>Tech is the future
>Sky is the limit
>When human innovation dies, a.k.a. never

>> No.21962462

>>21962376
My major mistake was INTC puts. Back when the leaks happened I thought it would tank the stock down 2 or 3. Lost like $300 then. In my defense, it did tank like a dollar but my mistake was buying a weekly call.

Other big mistake was betting the rest of my money on SLV because I thought the stimulus would moon it, but that didn't happen. That's where I lost most of my money.

Right now I'm just focusing on singular very small calls that will probably net minor gains. 2 week out calls that net $50 or something.

>> No.21962504

Fuck MMs and their price pinning crab bullshit.

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21962517

>>21962274
better than my first week/month

>> No.21962519

>>21962188
make me

>> No.21962527

just bought the dip on TQQQ...what should i drop my 8k leftovers into over the weekend kek

>> No.21962534

>>21962274
Congratulations to people who bought the tesla dip, bears unronically thought it would crash before the split and battery day.

>> No.21962535

>>21962402
When there is even one single other alternative

>> No.21962540

>>21962462
I just sell premi for P-nut gainz. If it hits, it hits.

>> No.21962550

>>21962402
it is a fucking bubble, but it's not a tech bubble, that is what you niggers don't get, this will be a FED bubble, people will start to feel invincible because the FED will take care of line only goes up, it will be an everything bubble, everything will go up, nasdaq could fucking double and no one would think on it crashing, sp500 will reach crazy levels, your shitty stocks will start to go up because others are too damn expensive to get in, you can safely buy TQQQ at any moment and it will go up, this bubble will last for a couple more years until the FED changes their policy, set your stop loss and enjoy the gains

>> No.21962559

>>21962527
FNGU

>> No.21962573

>>21962535
alternative to what

>> No.21962577

>>21962534
Whatta hell is battery day? More vaporware?

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>>21962109
wait wait wait, you WORK a real job? my man....fuck is you doin?

>> No.21962588

>TSLA $4000 calls expiring next week are $1.64
wew lad

>> No.21962590

>>21962443
Sort of? Being able to send and e-sign documents securely now is worth its weight, especially as businesses will cut down on doing business deals in person.

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>>21960345
sell iron condors or buy calls?

>> No.21962600
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21962600

I’ve bought every dip. I have $60 cash left. Do I sell something to buy more dips, or just let it ride?

>> No.21962621

>>21962527
AGQ

>> No.21962638

>>21962577
more hype for cult leader elon, so more free money for shareholders. that's all i need to know, really. just don't be greedy and gtfo before the day actually arrives because if it's disappointing then look the fuck out below (and the expectations are stratospherically high)

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21962646

I'm back...

but I see there's nothing happening yet
what a shame

>> No.21962655

>>21962599
Do you think line go up or down?

>> No.21962662

>>21962600
let it ride. figure out where in profit you're going to sell on the average price, then you can buy more dips.

>> No.21962676

FUCK NIGGERS AND FUCK ANYONE THAT IN ANY WAY ACCEPTS THEM

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21962679

>>21962600
>$1300 gains after relentlessly buying dips

Jesus, dude.

This is why i don't buy tech stocks desu. Those gains are good since they're gains, bit they're the equivalent of buying a scratch off.

>> No.21962683

>>21962638
The stock will fall if they don’t announce a cure for cancer

>> No.21962688

>>21962638
It's dropping on Battery day no matter fucking what. The only question is if it drops a little, or dives.

>> No.21962696

>>21962646
>nothing happening
Bote, plane, and Denny on the move!

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21962714

What about China though?

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21962718

>>21962188
Just bought more calls. See you at $100.

>> No.21962727

>>21962688
I think you will be terribly disappointed by price action on battery day.

>> No.21962729

>>21962588
Post split, it'll be for 500 shares at 800 strike, is that correct or is my inner retard showing? Post split tsla will be around 450. That's conceivably a thing that could happen, but still pretty long shot.

>> No.21962737

>>21962714
>we have fifty gorillion tons of gold bars economy is fine t. chinese banks
>can we see them?
>no

>> No.21962754

>>21962573
To hedging against high inflation rates by having your money in the stock market or PMs / BTC but PMs are manipulated and BTC is gay so don't go for that or do it idc.
But basically there's no where else to put cash right now because treasury notes are shit.
The fed controls monetary policy. The fed is not part of the US Govt even though the name makes it sound like it is.
It's ok to invest in a bubble as long as you know why it's a bubble and what would cause it to stop.
Until interest rates go up we are fine to keep printing green.

>> No.21962755

>>21962679
>I don't like gains, line go up scary
this is what I said and I got 4 months of crabbing for it, up 10% in a month from switching to tech finally.

>> No.21962767

>>21962729
Sounds right to me.

>> No.21962780

>>21962683
>>21962688
i agree but you know all the fanbois are thinking he legit will cure cancer or something insane and buy the fuck out of the newly cheap stock post-split. idk what price it will ultimately be at by battery day but i'll be looking to exit as close to the top as i can the week before it.

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21962799

Get out of plane and boat NOW.

>> No.21962818

>>21962540
What's the best way to go about selling premiums on a small budget of $400~?

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21962823

>>21962755

I've made more on Pumping and Dumping Party City Stock desu.

But glad you at least have gains.

>> No.21962824

>>21962799
Winter gonna be fun

>> No.21962829
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21962829

>>21962714
what about them?

>> No.21962832

might start taking profits from WKHS

>> No.21962839

>>21962714
China is complicated to deal with. There have been instances of companies that weren't even shells. We're talking publicly traded shit that wasn't anything more than a webpage - zero employees and an office building that was an abandoned warehouse. What's worse is that institutional investors actually bought into it. Their business practices are shit, too. There was a translator that worked in steel between the Chinese and the Russians that had a pretty lengthy story about their approach to business posted on 4chan. You might could find it or maybe somebody here has it.

>> No.21962845

>>21962832
Why now, of all times?? It's just now started a slow ramp upwards after crabbing for a couple months

>> No.21962847

>>21962799
This faggot little virus won’t cause a pandemic

>> No.21962849

>>21962799
Even if we never go back into lockdown this social distancing shit isn't going away anytime soon. This is going to be the death of all the kinds of businesses that barely scrape by on cramming as many people as possible into one place.

>> No.21962864

Let's everybody unite and buy millions of GME $10 calls for $0.01 expiring next week to cause a gamma squeeze and be millionaires.

>> No.21962865

>>21962588
how many are you buying lad?

>> No.21962870

>>21962849
so in other words, my AAPL and TSLA and AMD will continue to print?

>> No.21962872

>>21962829
That XPENG IPO seems to have gone well...

>> No.21962881

>>21962799
>>21962849
No one gives a fuck and it’s a farce. Even normies are wearing masks under their nose and not social distancing.

>> No.21962893

>>21962847
People are afraid because the media told them to be. It no longer matters what the actual virus does.

>> No.21962929

can't wait for drumpf to win again so we can start rounding up commies and groids and sending them to camps

>> No.21962928

>>21962845
i'm a poorfag trying to get a share of tesla after split because it isn't cucked by dividends unlike AAPL. however i did get burned on the XPEV IPO so might only sell 10 shares out of my 20 at a loss hold the rest see where it goes

>> No.21962930

>>21962550
>this bubble will last for a couple more years until the FED changes their policy,
In what ways? lower interest rates and inflation goal?...

>> No.21962948

>>21962864
Nevermind the spreads are all fucked up. $10 and $9 strike have asks of $2.24 while the $8 strike and below have asks of $0.10.

>> No.21962952

>>21962929
I'm feeling very bullish on Trump 2020.

>> No.21962954

>>21962849
No more I want it to back to normal already carrying a mask everywhere is pissing me off

>> No.21962965

>>21962688
>Retard thinks the only announcement on battery day will be about batteries.

LMAO, go all in just before the event and post your puts.

>> No.21962972

>>21962799
all in at the next crash

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>> No.21963007

>>21962965
All retail investors keep hearing about is the million mile battery. If Tesla doesn't come out with the best battery ever made, like a complete change in the technology, people are going to be disappointed.

>> No.21963013

>>21962767
I'm kind of tempted now, but exp sept 25 instead of next week.

>> No.21963044

>>21962948
Wtf why is the ask so high

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>>21962839
Link here frens: https://imgur.com/a/aSFTC

>> No.21963096

>>21963007
You're not factoring in that they could announce the start of their human driven ride hailing service, a refresh of the Model X and Model S, or improvements in FSD. Tesla has a bunch of cards to play right now if they're worried batteries won't be enough.

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>>21962799
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>>21962662
Thanks fren
>>21962679
Pussy

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>>21963057
HEROIC

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>>21961318
Economics is bullshit study finance
Also idk

>> No.21963770

Redpill me on the iron butterfly strategy