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[Anonymous No.21934732]

>be me
>have many sin debts
>would have had to pay for them in hell for all eternity
>tfw Jesus Christ paid for them all for me

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pSxegwiYLEQ

[Anonymous No.21935258]

>>21934732
>Jesus pays off your sin debts
>still go to hell for some archaic rule

[Anonymous No.21935444]

>>21935258
John 3:16
>For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.

Romans 6: 23
>For the wages of sin is death, but the gift of God is eternal life in Christ Jesus our Lord.

You have to believe in him, anon. How can he save you from hell if you don't accept his gift of eternal life.

[33 No.21935476]

Amen brother! Jesus loves you and I do too :D

[Anonymous No.21935507]

>>21935444
But like I don't have to go to church right? Because that place is god awful.

[Anonymous No.21935512]

Based soulwinner

[Anonymous No.21935543]

>>21934732
Amen brother. YGMI.

[Anonymous No.21935618]

>>21934732
>be me
>rape children every day
>confess my sins and accept jesus the day before my death
>go to heaven
no
also all jews should die painfully and jesus disagrees with that so he’s a retard

[Anonymous No.21935660]

>>21935618
You would still be punished by God but escape eternal damnation
Whether or not the punishment by God for raping children is worse than hell is your guess

[Anonymous No.21935685]

>>21934732
Amen. If you ever held LINK (mark of the beast) idk if he wont send you to Hell.

[Anonymous No.21935693]

>>21935444
>commit brutal murder
>go to heaven anyway

[Anonymous No.21935710]

>>21935660
>You would still be punished by God but escape eternal damnation
oh so you’re one of those purgatory weirdos

[Anonymous No.21935739]

>>21935444
>Commit rape, murder, torture
>go to heaven cuz i believe jesus lol

>be the most moral, selfless person ever
>go to hell because you didnt know about jesus because you never read or heard about the bible

[Anonymous No.21935751]

>>21934732
That preacher stopped believing that way btw, he stopped following the bible. Now, everybody he doesn't like is a reprobate and unsavable. Kek he literally thinks everyone who stops believing was never saved and is a reprobate. He doesn't believe in once saved always saved anymore.

[Anonymous No.21935763]

>>21934732
>Falling for the demiurge

[Anonymous No.21935780]

>>21935444
Checked, based Jesus digits

[Anonymous No.21935801]

>>21935618
There is such thing as a 'reprobate' that is talked about in Romans Chapter 1.
When people start going after strange flesh (pedophiles, homosexuals, beastiality) it is a sign that they have rejected God to the point where God has rejected them. At which point God gives them over to a reprobate mind and they will never come to the knowledge of the truth (salvation through Jesus Christ).
With most people its not too late for them to get saved (while they're still alive.) However with a small percentage of the population they're basically a dead man walking.

[Anonymous No.21935826]

>>21935618
>imagine thinking any sin is unforgivable because it doesn't fit the current model of man made ethics on earth.
Judas could be in heaven. So could Hitler. It's really none of your /biz/ness

>imagine being so deceived by the devil that you think you dont have a choice whether to sin or not
You are not your thoughts. Demons afflict us.

>imagine being given a way out of wretchdom and not accepting it
ngmi

> Matthew 12:32 And whoever speaks a word against the Son of Man will be forgiven, but whoever speaks against the Holy Spirit will not be forgiven, either in this age or in the age to come.

[Anonymous No.21935829]

>>21935801
This is not a biblical belief btw. Read that chapter in full.

[Anonymous No.21935876]

What is this superstitious shit doing on biz?

[Anonymous No.21935882]

>>21935751
>>21935739
Please visit an Orthodox Church. You have not yet encountered Christianity in it’s fullness

[Anonymous No.21935953]

>>21935801
I think I got the order wrong there. First they reject God, then God gives them over, and then they become a gay, or pedophile, etc..

>>21935829
Romans 1
>21 Because that, when they knew God, they glorified him not as God, neither were thankful; but became vain in their imaginations, and their foolish heart was darkened.
>22 Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools,
>23 And changed the glory of the uncorruptible God into an image made like to corruptible man, and to birds, and fourfooted beasts, and creeping things.
>24 Wherefore God also gave them up to uncleanness through the lusts of their own hearts, to dishonour their own bodies between themselves:
>25 Who changed the truth of God into a lie, and worshipped and served the creature more than the Creator, who is blessed for ever. Amen.
>26 For this cause God gave them up unto vile affections: for even their women did change the natural use into that which is against nature:
>27 And likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust one toward another; men with men working that which is unseemly, and receiving in themselves that recompence of their error which was meet.
>28 And even as they did not like to retain God in their knowledge, God gave them over to a reprobate mind, to do those things which are not convenient;

Seems clear to me.

[Anonymous No.21936011]

>>21935953
You really believe in invisible sky man???? That's weird dude.

[Anonymous No.21936040]

The one thing that always gets me, is if God is some all powerful, all knowing being, why is he so invested in what individual people do? If you an ant farm do you give a fuck if a few of them don't believe you exist? Fuck no, they're ants, who gives a fuck. If god exists there's no way he's as petty as religious nutjobs make him out to be.

[Anonymous No.21936057]

>>21935739
King David committed a murder, he was saved (believed on the promise of God in Old Testament) before he did that.
However he was chastised heavily in his life (many of his sons died, there was lots of family issues in his house), but ultimately God did not take his mercy from David, and he is in heaven right now.

[Anonymous No.21936163]

>>21935826
>Judas could be in heaven. So could Hitler. It's really none of your /biz/ness
They were both reprobates. Jesus picked Judas to be his disciple specifically because the prophesy of Jesus being put to death had to happen. But Jesus knew that Judas was a devil from the beginning of his ministry.

John 6:70
>Jesus answered them, Have not I chosen you twelve, and one of you is a devil?

[Anonymous No.21936236]

>>21936057
When god speaks to me at night he says that they got that wrong in the bible and him and King David are actually pretty tight. They like surfing and making pancakes (bacon).

[Anonymous No.21936295]

>>21935826
> >imagine thinking any sin is unforgivable because it doesn't fit the current model of man made ethics on earth.
A lot of people have requested that I abandon reason to fit their conception of reality. Every time I rejected them, without fail, my life improves both independently and in comparison to what would have happened if I acquiesced. Why are you different? And let’s be clear: you are a person telling me to adopt a belief. As of yet I have not heard the voice of God Himself in my own ears.
>Judas could be in heaven. So could Hitler. It's really none of your /biz/ness
Then I don’t care about my post-mortem fate as long as it’s in the hands of an entity that granted Judas eternal life (though if uncle Hitley is up in the pearly paradise that’s pretty based).
> You are not your thoughts. Demons afflict us.
I’m fully aware. I do my absolute best to ensure that whatever demons afflict me do not affect those around me. People around me are overall wealthier and more confident due to being my friends or family members, so I’d say I’m doing a good job.
>>imagine being given a way out of wretchdom and not accepting it
If I’m a wretch, what does that make you?
The funniest thing here is that you still probably think I’m an atheist, which I’m not. You also might think I’m a pagan, which I’m also not. At this point, give up replying, because I am outside of the false dichotomy of outsiders that you’re prepared to engage with.
Buy PNK ;)

[Anonymous No.21936402]

>>21936057
Imagine being his sons getting killed for something your father did... galaxy brain moral code there bud :D

[Anonymous No.21936451]

>>21935953
>Told to read the chapter in full
>Instead decides to zoom in on specific out of context verses
You're hopeless.

[Anonymous No.21936513]

I paid all my debts w cash

[Anonymous No.21936546]

>>21936451
You could post the part of the chapter that supports you point that reprobates aren't biblical.
I already used proof from the bible that reprobates are biblical, you should use the bible to prove your point.
Which verses are you referring to?

[Anonymous No.21936570]

>>21936040
Because he loves us, anon. You wouldn't understand how someone can love someone as wretched as us, but He does.

[Anonymous No.21936575]

>>21934732
THANK YOU JESUS CHRIST, OUR LORD IN HEAVEN. THANK YOU GOD.

[Anonymous No.21936674]

>>21934732
Buy xPOP to repent anon.
Otherwise you won't be allowed to waifu heaven

https://app.uniswap.org/#/swap?outputCurrency=0x9ede13964c7d3d17fce1874876ce07c0bf886f17&inputCurrency=ETH

[Anonymous No.21936743]

>>21936546
The idea of a reprovate is biblical but your reprobate doctrine is not biblical. Read the chapter in full retard. Homophobic retards take those gay verses and hyoerfocus on them, when the chapter mentions tons and tons of different sins.

It doesnt say gay nigga = reprobate. That's not from the bible.

[Anonymous No.21936773]

>>21936570
Evidently not, since if I die tomorrow taking a bullet for my friend while still holding the beliefs I currently do, I will be damned forever.
Also, if faith in Christ alone is all that’s needed for eternal life, what’s the point of the rest of the bible? Are all of the parables of God cursing or blessing people/cities/nations moot and meaningless? Should I no longer pay heed to the tale of Sodom and vote to let others give bottom surgeries to children, as long as I believe in Christ?
My problem with Christianity isn’t any of the garbage Leninist materialistic reddit-tier gotchas, it’s literally just that you people can’t play by your own rules, nor can any of you come even slightly close to a consensus on what your own holy book means.

[Anonymous No.21936877]

Since there's a few anons in here who seem to feel like they know what they're talking about, here's a question... lately I have been feeling more in connection with God, I pray to him and he gives me strength against all evil. This strengthening of my connection with God has made me feel like I can't pray to Jesus or really think about him the way I do God. I feel like I should only pray to God. Why do you think I feel this way and what would you say to me about this?

[Anonymous No.21936924]

>>21936743
Are you talking about the last part of that chapter?

>28 And even as they did not like to retain God in their knowledge, God gave them over to a reprobate mind, to do those things which are not convenient;
>29 Being filled with all unrighteousness, fornication, wickedness, covetousness, maliciousness; full of envy, murder, debate, deceit, malignity; whisperers,
>30 Backbiters, haters of God, despiteful, proud, boasters, inventors of evil things, disobedient to parents,
>31 Without understanding, covenantbreakers, without natural affection, implacable, unmerciful:
>32 Who knowing the judgment of God, that they which commit such things are worthy of death, not only do the same, but have pleasure in them that do them.

We all have our different sins, as humans we are all sinful people. However reprobates are filled with ALL unrighteousness. They want to commit all the sins that are listed above.

And it definitely says that people become gay because of the result of becoming a reprobate.

>26 For this cause God gave them up unto vile affections: for even their women did change the natural use into that which is against nature:
>27 And likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust one toward another; men with men working that which is unseemly, and receiving in themselves that recompence of their error which was meet.

God gave them up, and they become faggots. How could it be any clearer?

[Anonymous No.21936942]

>>21936743
Leviticus 20:13

[Anonymous No.21936985]

>>21936877
Jesus is a man, the Son of God
You worship only one God, God in heaven
You Believe in Jesus, our Lord and Saviour
You do not worship Jesus, you worship God
hopefully this clears things up

[Anonymous No.21937063]

>>21936877
I would tell you that the one true God is made of of 3 components:
The Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit
If you're praying to God and want to get closer to God, then you need to get with his program of salvation. It is that he sent his Son to live a perfect life and then die and go to hell to become a burnt offering for our sins.
If we accept his gift then our sins will be imputed unto him and his righteousness will be added to your account. Without believing in Jesus Christ you will go to hell because of your sins.

[Anonymous No.21937066]

>>21934732
Amen

[Anonymous No.21937088]

>>21934732
Based Jesus, thank you Senpai

[Anonymous No.21937120]

>>21934732

[Anonymous No.21937130]

>>21934732
Congrats desu.
You will make it.

[Anonymous No.21937313]

>>21935444
trips of truth

[Anonymous No.21937566]

>>21937063
First, as far as I know Jesus was tortured and did die but he did not go to hell. Second, I feel like it is not enough to believe that Jesus lived and died the way he did. Believing that still leaves me feeling like I am missing something important. Does God want me to be like Jesus as best as I can? Am I not being a hypocrite by saying I believe in Jesus and what he did, then commiting sin?

[Anonymous No.21937623]

>>21934732
BLESSED

[Anonymous No.21937699]

>>21937566
the point of god dying for your sins is because you can't not sin. all you can do is ask for forgiveness.

[Anonymous No.21937799]

>>21937566
Jesus did go to hell, though.
Matthew 12
>40 For as Jonas was three days and three nights in the whale's belly; so shall the Son of man be three days and three nights in the heart of the earth.

God certainly does want you to obey his commandments. He will bless your life if you obey, and curse your life is you disobey him.
However, God is so holy that even if you commit one sin, you are disqualified from entering into heaven.
But since he knows this and he knows of the nature of man, he had to make salvation a free gift. Christianity isn't about glorifying man, it is about glorifying God.

[Anonymous No.21937837]

>>21934732
Baste

[Anonymous No.21937886]

Based.

[Anonymous No.21937926]

>>21935444
kek dies for all your sin, but you have to believe in him for this to work.
Stop taking this literally faggots, it's a great metaphor, if you believe the son of god, or god himself, who is everything, is the logos, the force, the dao de ching, etc... made you and accepts you the way you are with all your flaws, then you will love yourself and find peace in life, which they call heaven.

[Anonymous No.21937946]

>>21934732
>accepting debt upon birth
that's up to you bro but its gonna be a no from me.

[Anonymous No.21938294]

>>21937946
Babies and infants are sinless, its only once a child learns good from bad that they have the opportunity to commit a sin.
There's no such thing as inheriting sin.

[Anonymous No.21938343]

>>21934732
Christianity pretend to grant you forgiveness for the so called original sin, not for what you personally did.

[Anonymous No.21939114]

>>21938343
Your prophet is a pedophile and is burning in hell.

[Anonymous No.21939151]

>>21934732
Plauton, wealth giver.

[Anonymous No.21939236]

>>21938343
I thought muslims did drink though.

[Anonymous No.21939323]

>Go to heaven
>See black people and kikes everywhere
>n-word.exe
>mfw Jesus banishes me to hell for hating niggers

[Anonymous No.21939733]

>>21935444
Amen!

>>21935258
Once Jesus has paid for all your sins and you have believed upon Him, you can't go to hell even if you break the rules. He already paid for all the rules you will break in the future.

[Anonymous No.21939771]

>>21939323
You can't sin once you're in heaven. You wont be a racist loser there.

[Anonymous No.21939823]

>>21939236
only camel piss.
>>21938343
You have no clue what Christianity teaches, keep your mouth shut please.

t. former muslim

[Anonymous No.21939982]

>>21935507
You don't have to do anything except believe in Christ. Bear in mind that by believing in Christ you have to also show that you believe, you can't just be like "eh fuck it then I believe", you're somewhat expected not to live like a total cunt all your life.

[Anonymous No.21940034]

>>21939982
>you're somewhat expected not to live like a total cunt all your life.

This is wrong. The Corinthians lived some of the shittiest lives ever and they still made it to heaven. How? Because they were saved and salvation has NOTHING to do with your behavior. Please stop spreading a false gospel.

>>21935507
>>21939982

Watch the video in OP's link.

[Anonymous No.21940115]

>>21939771
Niggers don't go to heaven. Only a VERY select few BLACK PEOPLE like Jesse Lee Peterson and Kanye. Y'know, blacks who are actually good and decent and basically just dark skinned whites. So about 150 blacks? The rest are niggers and will go to Hell.

[Anonymous No.21940149]

>>21940115
You are an idiot.

Jesus made us from Adam and Eve, we are all one blood. You have fallen for the jewish zionist trick of divide and conquer, congratulations goy.

[Anonymous No.21940186]

>>21940034
People who believe in Christ will be inhabited by the Holy Spirit and as such will act accordingly. If they don't act in accordance with the Holy Spirit then they're not true Christians. They don't really believe. I'm not saying you will be saved by your actions, I'm saying that by your actions will God know that you believe.

[Anonymous No.21940213]

>>21940149
You are a faggot and will likely go to Hell for your crimes of faggotry and idolatry. Most black people are fucking awful. They're criminal and degenerate. Go be a faggot somewhere else.

[Anonymous No.21940214]

>>21940034
Amen, brother

Ephesians 2
>8 For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God:
>9 Not of works, lest any man should boast.

[Anonymous No.21940255]

>>21940186
Wrong. Watch OP's video. You will go to hell if you believe that garbage.

>>21940214
God bless you OP. I know you know the truth.

[Anonymous No.21940289]

>>21936773
>>21936877
Keep this bumped and I'll read after work.

[Anonymous No.21940349]

>>21936877
Jesus is God.

Read John 1 and John 1:14

[Anonymous No.21940384]

>>21940255
>And Peter said to them, “Repent and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the forgiveness of your sins, and you will receive the gift of the Holy Spirit.

>But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, patience, kindness, goodness, faithfulness, gentleness, self-control; against such things there is no law.

>“If you love me, you will keep my commandments. And I will ask the Father, and he will give you another Helper, to be with you forever, even the Spirit of truth, whom the world cannot receive, because it neither sees him nor knows him. You know him, for he dwells with you and will be in you.

>And the Spirit of the Lord shall rest upon him, the Spirit of wisdom and understanding, the Spirit of counsel and might, the Spirit of knowledge and the fear of the Lord.

>And I will give you a new heart, and a new spirit I will put within you. And I will remove the heart of stone from your flesh and give you a heart of flesh. And I will put my Spirit within you, and cause you to walk in my statutes and be careful to obey my rules.

Shhhhhhhhut the fuck up.

[Anonymous No.21940408]

>>21940384
Watch OP's video. Last time I tell you. Your blood isn't on my hands.

[Anonymous No.21940523]

>>21940384
The verses that you're referring to is about the outpouring of the Holy Spirit.
The Holy Spirit is what guides us into all wisdom. It's what gives us boldness to preach what is in the bible.
As you grow as a Christian, God will extend more and more of his spirit towards you.

[Anonymous No.21940574]

>>21940408
I take my lessons on salvation from the Bible, not some FAGGOT who marries different races. He's a fucking homosexual. He said he would be happy if his sons were gay.
The bible is fucking clear on this:
When you accept Christ in your heart you accept the Holy Spirit with him. The Holy Spirit makes you live by his law. If you're not doing that then you clearly haven't got the Holy Spirit inside of you. If you have no Holy Spirit then you don't actually believe.

>You, however, are not in the flesh but in the Spirit, if in fact the Spirit of God dwells in you. Anyone who does not have the Spirit of Christ does not belong to him.


>He saved us, not because of works done by us in righteousness, but according to his own mercy, by the washing of regeneration and renewal of the Holy Spirit, whom he poured out on us richly through Jesus Christ our Savior,

>Likewise the Spirit helps us in our weakness. For we do not know what to pray for as we ought, but the Spirit himself intercedes for us with groanings too deep for words. And he who searches hearts knows what is the mind of the Spirit, because the Spirit intercedes for the saints according to the will of God.

If you have the Holy Spirit you WILL be a good person. If you're an evil cunt you don't have the Holy Spirit. No Holy Spirit, no salvation.

[Anonymous No.21940596]

[Anonymous No.21940601]

>>21937926
Don't cast your pearls upon swine

[Anonymous No.21940623]

>>21940574

[Anonymous No.21940704]

>>21934732
Humans created religion. This is painfully obvious with a shred of critical thinking applied. But at least you'll make a good wageslave.

[Anonymous No.21940746]

>>21940623
Nice, I'm saving this picture.
>>21940574
>I take my lessons on salvation from the Bible, not some FAGGOT who marries different races. He's a fucking homosexual. He said he would be happy if his sons were gay.
You honestly sound so crazy that I don't know if you're joking around and if I should reply to you, but here goes.

Romans 3:23
>For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God

No one is good enough to make it to heaven.
If you want to be judged by your works then go ahead. But God is holier than you think he is. He doesn't allow even a trace of sin into heaven. He'll be completely fair to send you to hell if you do not accept his free gift of salvation through the blood of Jesus Christ.

John 14:6
>Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.

[Anonymous No.21940815]

>>21934732
Amen

[Anonymous No.21940852]

>>21940623
This is an interesting collection of verses. I'm too tired to give it real thought now but I have ready it and saved it and will read it again in the morning. Thank you.

[Anonymous No.21940875]

>>21936743
hahaha triggered faggot

[Anonymous No.21940918]

>>21940704
Of course humans created religion you dense cunt. Nobody disputes this. What a fucking mong you must be.

>>21940746
I'm not arguing for salvation through works. I am arguing that people cannot be evil and go to Heaven. I don't think God will let that happen. I think that through the Holy Spirit, which we are all granted when we accept Christ, we are compelled to do Good works, and not be evil. This is why I was saying evil people don't go to Heaven, because how can they be saved if they don't embody Christs' laws?

[Anonymous No.21941110]

>>21940918
If you sin against God then you will be chastised on this Earth

Hebrews 12
>6 For whom the Lord loveth he chasteneth, and scourgeth every son whom he receiveth.

If you don't live a clean life then God will make your life miserable. Think of King David who committed adultery and murder during his life, and God chastised him heavily because of that. But ultimately God did not take his mercy from David.