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I'm a poor student, and apart from not having capital, there's one big reason why I'll never invest in stocks. It's because I have the IQ to realize that investing is a zero sum game. To have a winner there must be a loser. People join in thinking "I'm gonna be the smart one who wins", but this is just the overconfidence and delusion of the low IQ individual. If the guy wins by random chance, it further amplifies his delusions.

After realizing this, there's no way I could join the game. The game wants more losers and tries to suck in people like me. You want me to gamble with my student loans so you'd get that 3rd Ferrari this month.
You can try to pretend I'm wrong all you want, but this is the ultimate redpill on investing.
There's no such thing as money for everyone. Prove me wrong. Prove to me that there's a form of investing where everyone is guaranteed to win.

>> No.21522780

>>21522771
where to buy kleros? is that what you talk?

>> No.21522795

>>21522780
uniswap sir

>> No.21522804

Just buy an index fund retard

>> No.21522810

>>21522771
>i have the iq
>does not have the iq
Investing is not a zero sum game you absolute retard. Ever came across the thought that there is value being created?

>> No.21522834

>>21522771
Don't invest. Stay a loser. Problem solved.

>> No.21522853

>>21522771
All of this is true
Ironically, realizing it is makes you smarter than most, so maybe (low chance, but who knows) you have what it takes to win.

>> No.21522859

>>21522771
Money printer is always going and equity inflation outpaces real inflation so everyone who buys and holds index funds does get rich.

>> No.21522870

>>21522810
>there is value being created

Where does this extra value come from?
Stuff can't come out of nothingness. Only the stuff that already exists is redistributed. This is the basis of all science.

>> No.21522876

>>21522771
You are rationalizing your fear of both failure and success. There are many different avenues of investment it doesn't have to be stocks or crypto. Spending your time as an employee at a job or as a student at a university are both investments of a different order.

>> No.21522924

>>21522771
> I have the IQ to realize that investing is a zero sum game
anon I...

>> No.21522925

>>21522870
Oh my fucking god how stupid are you? So youre telling me amazon or google didnt create value? Literally how fucking stupid are you? Stocks are a representation of if a company creates value or not. Nothing more faggot.

>> No.21522938

>>21522870
Money is printed and more poors are born every day in third world countries to feed the mega cap machines.

>> No.21522955

>>21522925
>google didnt create value?

This value was subtracted from the value of Altavista and Yahoo.
It is still a zero sum game.

>> No.21522956

>>21522771
You're honestly retarded. Investing isn't a zero sum game. The point of investing in a company is that the company has value and by being a part of it you own some of that value. There are people who literally never sell until they're ready to retire. You're not draining the value and giving someone else cap, you're owning something then selling it when you no longer want it.

>> No.21522977

>>21522771
or your nigger face could just invest in an ETF fund.

>> No.21523003

>>21522955
Naval gazing isn't wisdom. Then the very air you breath subtract value from somewhere else. Stop doing stuff or you'll hasten the heat death of the universe you psued

>> No.21523015

>>21522955
Okay then retard have fun being a retard

>> No.21523020

>>21522925
The stock value didn't increase magically just because Amazon created real world value.
People saw that increased value, and invested into the stock, it still remains true that if heavy whales were to sell, the whale would effectively take everyone's money.
When you make a profit, someone will eventually lose money

>> No.21523030

>>21522955
Yes mate the nyse has the same value as when it opened back in 1817 when cunts didnt even have electricity.

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21523032

He's trolling you guys.

>> No.21523044

>>21522955
>no askjeeves

Lmao, retard

>> No.21523055

>>21523015
>Okay then retard have fun being a retard

I've noticed "retard" is the only word 4channers seem to know. Fucking parrots.

>> No.21523079

>>21523055
I'm seeing at least 5 other words in his post

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>>21522955
>>21522870
>>21522771

>> No.21523093

>>21523055
Retard

>> No.21523113

>>21522771
OP, why don't we apply that to something else besides money.

>I'm a poor incel, and apart from not having a gf, there's one big reason why I'll never have a gf. It's because I have the IQ to realize my genes are not going to let me have a loyal gf. To have a genetic winner there must be a genetic loser. People try simping/dating thinking "I'm gonna find companionship", but this is just the overconfidence and delusion of the low IQ individual. If the guy wins by random genetic chance, it further amplifies his delusions.

>After realizing this, there's no way I could join the sexual market. The sexual market wants more losers and tries to suck in people like me. You want me to gamble with my time, money, and self worth so you'd get to fuck that fourth chick this month while I simp.

>You can try to pretend I'm wrong all you want, but this is the ultimate redpill on investing.
There's no such thing as somebody for everyone. Prove me wrong. Prove to me that there's a form of mating where everyone is guaranteed to win.

What do say about the bottom 30% of males who don't reproduce but still have to support the society that doesn't support them? Why limit it to money? Why not other things as well?

>> No.21523122

>>21522771
>>21522771
the most losers in this game are overconfident idiots who can't do their own research and rely on someone to chew data into useful info for them. They are getting JUSTed by those who they trust. It applies to friends and family to. Even though you're not stupid they're also chances you can get severly hurt by series of unfortunate events. If you're not confident in your comprehension and analyzing abilities, can't think ahead, it's good for you not to join this shitshow. You'll end up as another JUSTed loser.

>> No.21523127

>>21523032
I hope to god you are right

>> No.21523132

>>21523020
It's a combination of increased money supply and decreasing supply of shares people are selling which pushes valuations up. The stock market's value is based on momentum so if someone big dumped then yes you might end up with a loss for everyone else, but a dump of that magnitude wouldn't be smart for the whale because of the rapidly decreasing demand. Yes the stock market is far detached from actual valuations at this point and it's basically like playing a crash gambling game holding on to see if you can be the one to sell the top while everyone else faceplants. In that scenario you end up with more losers than winners, not a zero sum game.

>> No.21523131

>>21523093

>OP questions the overuse of the word retard
>you decide to be witty and funny by reacting to it by using that particular word

Wow someone stop this MENSA summit. Jesus..

>> No.21523162

>>21523055
You posted some shit that you probably thought was profound, when in reality its just stupid shit.
Retard is the perfect response.

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>>21523131
>>OP questions the overuse of the word retard
>>you decide to be witty and funny by reacting to it by using that particular word
>Wow someone stop this MENSA summit. Jesus..

>> No.21523279

>>21522771
Scared money don’t make money, pussy.

“I won’t risk my stagnant money for a chance to increase my wealth chunks at a time cause there’s a chance I might lose a little and I don’t understand risk management or stop loss”

“I don’t want to ask out this girl cause she might say no”

“I don’t want to apply for this job cause I might get turned down”

Absolute cuck mentality

poor wageslave psych major here bought $1800 worth of ATOM it’s now worth $4995 bought $1000 worth of ALGO it’s now worth $2550

keep living life like a scared bitch

don’t take risks

stay poor.

>> No.21523290

>>21522870
>I have the IQ to know tesla is just a dream to build good batteries, their company is worth the same today as the first day it started. Amazon selling EVERYTHING in the world, is of no more value than books, the man who sold his stocks in Amazon as a book seller should get same amount as person who owns them now.

>> No.21523304

>>21523162

I was just reciting the basic laws of thermodynamics. There's a constant amount of everything and it just gets distributed in different ways.
For instance, Trump gave Americans coronabux. People seem to think Trump magically created billions of dollars .Where do you think this comes from? It comes from you.

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21523326

>>21523279
>didn’t buy pnk
>didn’t get the 20x
Such a shame anon. Could have turned that $1800 to nearly $40k. Scared money don’t make money pussy. Gg though

>> No.21523330

>>21522870
Value isnt objective you dumbass.

>> No.21523342

>>21523279
>psych major

Lol at humanities.

OP here and I study physics, the only science that's real and that matters. Everything else is normie/social media tier women's studies.
If it isn't math, it's a feeling.

>> No.21523374

>>21523342
Even pretending to be this retarded still makes you a retard you niggerfaggot

>> No.21523383

>>21522771
Rule #1
ALWAYS DO THE OPPOSITE OF WHAT/BIZ/ SAYS
DO NOT INVEST IN XRP
https://m.youtube.com/watch?feature=youtu.be&v=ZJA3JSxYPzM

>> No.21523447

>>21523374

>uses ad hominem

Low IQ poster

>> No.21523511

>>21522780
make the village proud sir do the needful

>> No.21523528

>>21523342
“i sTuDY mATh”

crypto/investing/trading all simple math

math isn’t even my field of study but I make money doing it.

>> No.21523576

Looking at the replies here, I’m glad I chose to invest and trade. More money for me,

>> No.21523608

>>21523447
kys midwit

>> No.21523621

>>21523304
Thermodynamics has to with universal constants.
Money and value are not universal constants, so why would you think it applies?

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>>21523177
Stop posting that retarded picture, doesn't matter if it's the perfect fit for OP, I don't fucking want to see it. It's fucking disgusting, on par with gore.

>> No.21523690

>ITT - Midwit tries desperately to justify why he isnt making free money and pretending to be smarter than people earning more than him
BUUUHHH IF YOU MAKE MONEY YOU TAKE IT OFF OTHER PEOPLE THATS NOT GOOD THERE SHOULD BE A WAY THAT EVERYONE MAKES MONEY AT ONCE SO I HAVE NO RISK AND CAN STOP BEING A LITTLE BABY WHO WEARS A POOPY DIAPER POOPOO STINKY I HAVE SOILED MYSELF AGAIN MOMMY HELP MOOOMMMYYY I POOED MYSELF THINKING ABOUT RISKING MY BABY LUNCH MONEY GOOGOOGAAGAA I NEED A CHANGIE MOOOOOMMM HEEEEEEELLLPPPPP I MADE A STINKY POOPOO STINKYYY I MADE A LINKY STINKY IN MY DIAAPPIIEEEEE CHANGE ME NOW CHANGE ME CHANGE ME CHAANNGGGEEEE MEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

>> No.21523713

What’s funny is that one of the things the market teaches you is that you’re not as smart as you think lol

>> No.21523729

>>21522771
>zero sum game

Wrong. If I sell my apple stock I get a massive profit. The person who buys it doesn’t lose. Apple can still grow bigger and make them an even larger profit

>> No.21523748

>>21522870
From the success of the tech, confirmed 105 iq
The agricultural revolution was a mistake

>> No.21523778

>>21523690
Holy fucking based OP BTFO forever

>> No.21524207

>>21522771
What is money? Money is social leverage. The very concept of money implicitly requires you to accept that most people cannot make it since the amount required to make it is however much gives you leverage over others. This is true for every field imaginable. Accept the merciless dice rolls of fate or die in fear.

>> No.21525057

>>21522771
You only lose money when you sell.
I bought a low cap coin during the 2017 bullrun and I was in the red for 3 years until now where I have made 130% profit.

>> No.21525142

>>21522771
>everyone is guaranteed to win
impossible
its your responsibility to do research and hope the powers at be dont act like assholes or act like assholes depending on where you invest

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>>21522771
How much did you lose?
Cope

>> No.21526048

>>21522870
Stuff can't come from nothingness?
Kek, tell that to God

>> No.21526122

>>21522771
>I'm a poor student
stopped reading there

>> No.21526198

>>21522771
Pretty much champ, leave it to the big boys. You clearly have no confidence in your ability to outperform the masses and that usually comes from experience. Eat your grass.