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fuck you all

>> No.21443107

>>21443082
See you tomorrow fren'd

>> No.21443123

>>21443082
you and him don't know what marxism is

>> No.21443124
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>>21443082
Not nice fren.... what happened?

>> No.21443148

thanks for playing

>> No.21443150

Evola is great and all but collectivists all deserve the rope.

>> No.21443172

>>21443123
fuck you especially.
Goodbye.

>> No.21443239

>>21443107
Fpbp

>> No.21443311

>>21443172
leave quicker, faggot. it's not my fault you cry over strawmen. :)))))))))))

>> No.21443350

>>21443082
If communism didnt work, I am sure as shit that whatever shit this literal who nobody came up with wouldnt work either times 10.

>> No.21443351

>>21443082
LMAO i really gotta read up some books from this meme man
heard quite a few things about his books

>> No.21443578

>>21443082
>a total evola newbie appears, reads one quote and think he gets it.
the short version is - a proper society is constructed as follows:
(a) priest
(b) warriors / rulers
(c) merchants / artisans (<<---- biz is here)
(d) laborers

So you see, evola was not against merchants. He was against placing them as the ruling class.....Placing the laborers as the rulers is even worse (ie democracy / communism).
get gud and learn more.

>> No.21443722

>>21443578
I understand all that fren.
However this board is a prime example of the materialist obsession that holds society in its grip. Just read some of the replies here. They cannot even fathom a discussion outside materialism. If not for the presence of a certain tripfag I would have left long ago.

>> No.21443967

>>21443722
>this board is a prime example of the materialist obsession that holds society in its grip.
its not reasonable to expect the merchants / artisans to act outside of their class....you are still stuck with egalitarian thinking.
should a laborer be tasked with being a ruler? no. he shouldn't even consider the problems. (this is obviously the failings of democracy).
in short, you voluntarily visit a merchant board and are mad at the merchant board because its concerning itself with merchants concerns.
sounds like you projecting your own dissatisfaction with yourself. probably yearning beyond your ability.

>> No.21444198

>>21443722
>he's STILL here
Nice job never opening this board again, you humongous attention whore.

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>>21443967
Actually I am just memeing fren I never intended on leaving.

But we desperately need to fill the priest class and awaken a respect for it to restructure society, no? That awakening has to come from somewhere, and necessarily out of the dregs of the other classes in these times. The egalitarian mindset is necessary for now since that is the system we live in and have to effect change in.

>> No.21444336

>>21443722
>why can't you guys stop talking about money in the business and finance board?
Are you fucking retarded?

>> No.21444359

we already have a priestly class, you just don't realize it because you disagree with their religion

activists, HR departments, public intellectuals, pop scientists, basically everyone telling you to eat the bugs wear the mask, support blm, and suck girldick

>> No.21444485

>>21443123
Easy there fella, this ain't Ayn Rand this is Evola. He can actually be described as a philosopher. And reducing Marx down to a basic form realism is an oversimplification but not unwarranted. Everything Marx believed flows from the belief that a material world, and only a material world, exists.

>> No.21444566

>>21443578
Ok, faggot

>> No.21444595

>>21444359
ugh.
This is what I mean with people who cannot even fathom to think out of the materialist mindset. Materialism is not a religion, It is a delusion, that has plagued mankind whenever democracy came up.

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>>21444226
the new priest class are the shitposters and meme-makers.
clownworld / piss and shit world cant be changed. we can only point out its absurdities and laugh. dropping out and being a shitposter funded by shitcoins is probably the most noble profession right now.

>> No.21444687

>>21444595
pseud retard

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>>21443082
What's it like to stay trapped in your economic chains with nothing to soothe your seething jimmies other than some dead occultists "philosophy" about poorfags? Evola was a richfag, literally born to an artisan and a landowner. You can cry all you want in misery, read all the non-fiction and philosophy you can stand, but in the end - you'd be better off learning a real skill and freeing yourself from the system.

But here you are, being a bitter fag because you can't handle the cognitive dissonance of thinking you're far more intelligent than you actually are while being a poorfag, missing out on true freedom.

As if you haven't been warned for years. You have no one to blame but yourself. So you can bitch and moan all you want about sheeple and jews, just remember to take a good long hard look in the mirror.

>> No.21444786

>>21443123
>you and him don't know what marxism is

Saying that the most knowledgable philosopher of the 20th century he doesn't know what Marxism is is rich lmao

>> No.21444841

>>21444687
You can check for yourself, the last time Atheism was widespread was in Athens when it had its own democracy. In fact Socrates was trialed for it, wrongly of course.

>> No.21444855

>>21443578
>>21443311
>>21443123

You know biz is full of Jews when you have them all seething over some quote from Julius Evolva and defending Marxism. This is why you have to be very careful browsing here. IDF is subverting here every day, pushing their Jew scam coins like pnk and xrp. Don’t fall for their tricks

>> No.21444971

>>21443082
Based Evola

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>>21444855
I'll check that all day..

>> No.21445054

>>21444841
you have no understanding of basic terminology you're using, retard
you think the tranny ideology is materialistic? racial grievances is materialistic? idiot

>> No.21445076

>>21444855
looks like bait, but I will just reiterate; if you had the strength to develop yourself instead of being obsessed with other people, you may have accomplished something / not be miserable.

You mediocrity is self imposed, as much as you would like to believe you are oppressed. You're really no better than a politically charged nigger. Think about it.

>> No.21445185

>>21445054
Those things are absolutely based in the materialistic mindset. Ask any of these people if they believe in a God or higher power. You already know the answer I reckon.

>> No.21445339

>>21445185
>believing you are a female soul mistakenly placed into male body is materialistic
>believing white people intristically possess an original sin and all the other races are their blameless victims for all eternity is materialistic
based fucking retard

>> No.21445362

>>21445185
Show me your internet history before you go pretending to be some kind of spiritual acolyte. You have zero integrity, go learn something useful. You're just another dunning kreuger fag whose emotional growth got stunted by /pol/ tier discourse. Most of what you think you "know" is literal disinfo designed to destroy you.

While you bitch about "material" wealth chasers, marxists, fags, sjw's, jews, women, etc. the "materialistic mindset" anon is creating enough wealth to actually live a life free from the social/economic contracts we were born into. Go learn something useful, no one cares buddy. You've got jack shit to show for your "knowledge".

>> No.21445492

>>21445362
I don't browse /pol/. I just read.

Also it is possible to earn money without adopting the materialist mindset. The point is what you're making money for.

But why so hostile, fren? Did I strike a chord or something?

>> No.21445534

>>21445362
>You've got jack shit [economic worth] to show for your "knowledge".

>> No.21445569

>>21443082
read talent parable then

>> No.21445579

>>21443082
>I’m leaving forever
>8 post by this ID
nobody ever leaves

>> No.21445625

>>21445339
the majority of these people believes nothing of that kind. For one if you really believed in reincarnation (like I do), you would know that gender is necessarily discarded with the body, and forgotten in the river Lethe. Soul does not have gender. It predates gender.
But you are raising strawmen you don't really believe in yourself, I think.

>> No.21445658

>>21445492
Lol. Explain why you're in here complaining about "materialists" in the first place please. You' came seething and are now trying to play it off like "oh, I was just pretending to be retarded. My feathers aren't ruffled."

Back to /pol/. Shoo. Go cast a spell, maybe you can attract a white woman who will look past your total ineptitude and be your trad wife and give you some kids. The only chord you are striking is my sides, you'll be on 4chan screaming into the wind while I'm actually achieving irl freedom from "materialism". I already have years of farming and general building experience, what do you have? Some pictures of Julius Evola? Totally worthless in the real world.

>> No.21445742

>>21445625
>But you are raising strawmen you don't really believe in yourself, I think.
Bingo.

>> No.21445764

>>21445534
Lol. Yeah owning land, a house, means to produce your own livelihood... Total 'materialist'. Could be discussing 'spirituality' with anons who live with their parents and work at mcdonalds... But I'm too busy being a debt free self sovereign individual. Just can't COPE with these LOFTY ideals.

If you seething queerbaits had any REAL skills, you wouldn't be here coping. Have fun trying to tell everyone how "enlightened" you are.

>> No.21445759

>>21443123
Explain what Marxism is or else you are a time-wasting asshole and we see your ID.

>> No.21445843

>>21445625
>hello anon
>first of all, fuck you all
>second of all, I have become enlightened
>you, you? definitely not enlightened
>I have traversed the other side, anon

Do you have any idea how retarded you sound? Learn a skill, do something valuable that actually improves your life. You're an idiot.

Actually, disregard this. Go smoke some more weed. You are REALLY onto something special.

>> No.21445862

>>21443082
I quintessentially disagree with this - as I feel much more spiritually fulfilled making money, having customers and maintaining profits than focusing strictly on spiritual means. I feel like it’s essential people work to get to a place they’re comfortable, then begin working towards some form of enlightenment. Rather than attempting to forgo the first step and shooting for enlightenment. Remember, the Buddha was a wealthy prince before he became enlightened. There’s much to be obtained in that.

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>> No.21445939

>>21445625
they absolutely do believe in it, they just don't use terms like "soul" and "original sin" because those are generally associated with metaphysic traditions they dislike
a materialistic, physicalist worldview is utterly incompatible with their ideologies
progressives today are far more religiously minded than conservatives are, you just fail to recognize their religiosity for what it is

>> No.21445987

>>21445862
dipshit kids use spirituality as an excuse to hide their fundamentally worthless existence. Not only worthless in material terms, totally useless in general. These aren't the kind of people who acquire trade skills or even professional skills, going on to contribute to humanity and gaining true wisdom - they're sniveling children who either grow out of it or remain self impressed pothead "spiritualists" for life. They don't even deserve the criticism I'm dishing out.

>> No.21446025

>>21445658
>>21445764
>>21445843
Calm down fren, I was only joking.
I have a gf and a lot of Link.
But that is the point. You can aspire financial freedom while not forgetting there is more to life.
Same goes to you >>21445862
fren. A spiritual mindset does not mean you cannot try to attain wealth. It is the other way around: the materialist mindset excludes the other aspects of life.

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>>21443578
Wait a minute I thought he argued that a priest was an inferior substitute to a priestly warrior king. Because while the Priest is superior to the more materialist classes the warrior King transcends all through a metaphysical fight of order over chaos through not only a spirtual level but a material one as well. As above so below.

>t evolafag

>> No.21446093

>>21445939
Both 'muh reparations' and people wanting to normalise trannies is explained by perceived feelings of oppression. They feel they are oppressed and try to liberate themselves from said oppression. There is no religiosity in it.

>> No.21446103

>>21446025
If you knew anything you would keep your mouth shut. I'm serious. You have done nothing but make yourself look like a self impressed faggot.
>I was only pretending to be retarded
>I have material investments in material things
kys retard

>> No.21446199

>>21445939
>a materialistic, physicalist worldview is utterly incompatible with their ideologies
I think you say this because you believe they are wrong, anon. But religion and delusion are not the same thing. Religion is belief in a higher power. Not belief in something inexplicable or wrong. I think a lot of atheists confuse the two because they see religion as "wrong" as well.

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>>21443123

>> No.21446335

>>21446103
He's saying 'Don't forget there's more to life than money.'
He isn't saying 'renounce all money.'
Do you see the difference? Now go read his posts again.

>> No.21446362

>>21445862
Evola doesnt necessarily disagree with you friend. The fact is if you truly feel a spiritual connection through the merchant class then you are perhaps best suited for that class. He argues we have inherent natures and that we should follow our inherent natures versus try to scale rungs of society being something we are not, thus chaos will rule in between the classes.

>> No.21446372

>>21444226
>But we desperately need to fill the priest class and awaken a respect for it to restructure society, no?
We already live in a society ruled by the priestly caste through media, academia and so on - their beliefs are just stupid. If merchants ruled why would they be forced to take on hordes of diversity hires or subject their employees to diversity struggle sessions to avoid lawsuits or have the requisite number of #girlboss-es on the Board of Directors?

>>21444595
Would you say that contemporary egalitarianism is a materialist belief? A serious materialist could refute it easily, but no amount of evidence will change anyone's mind who believes in it, because it's a quasi-religious belief.

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21446443

>We ultimately realize that information age technology is altering our brains. Common people have become mere antennas to pass on trivial stimulus.

>> No.21446525

>>21446372
egalitarianism can be put in a materialist framework the way Rousseau did it. The social contract.

>> No.21446557

>>21446372
also see >>21446199

>> No.21446560

>>21446525
>The social smart contract

>> No.21446572

>>21446335
No thanks, you should go learn a skill though and stop being a faggot

>> No.21446601

>>21446525
Egalitarianism is trash bro. Its inherently tied to guilt from the higher classes.

>> No.21446647

>>21446560
you know it's coming
>>21446601
its materialist conception is trash, yes

>> No.21446784

>>21446601
And yet these types of status heirarchies seem to be replicated no matter where humies go

>> No.21446817

>>21443107
/thread
See on that other board.

>> No.21446891

>>21446784
What do you mean by this in the context of discussing egalitarianism?

>> No.21446905

bump interesting discussion. I agree that acquiring wealth and checking out of society is the best thing one can do. also wealth doesn't equal materialism

>> No.21446999

>>21446905
This i dont want this thread to die. You can simultaneously aquire wealth without being a materialist. It almost seems like long term its how you retain your wealth.

>> No.21447098

>>21443150
This. Evola is baste, but you're in the game, might as well try to win.

>> No.21447217

>>21443082
>I live by the words of a literal depressed autistic incel
Ok good luck

>> No.21447283

>>21443578
Conservatism is such an absolute shit tier ideology

>> No.21447290

>>21443082
Wealth is a good thing to have.
But the level of human progress is unfortunately dictated by the masses of dump people who can't plan for tomorrow.
If you want to live in an utopia all you need to do is to remove everyone who has an IQ lower than 130, and use DNA engineering to improve the IQ of the population until it reaches that of gods.

>> No.21447351

>>21443123
Shut it down the goyim know.jpg

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>>21447217
OHHH NOOO you cant just learn from people who are in the same position as you throughout history and figure out the best place to find shelter in an objectively trash society. OHHH NOOOO

Pathetic.