/smg/ Stock Market General

[Anonymous No.21431700]

Maids

>Brokers
https://pastebin.com/F1yujtVq

>Stock market Words
https://pastebin.com/VtnpN5iJ

>Risk Management
https://pastebin.com/sqJUcbjp

>Live Bloomberg Stream
http://www.livenewson.com/american/bloomberg-television-business.html

>Educational Sites
https://www.investopedia.com/
https://www.khanacademy.org/economics-finance-domain
https://nhentai.net/tag/maid/

>Free Charts
http://www.tradingview.com
https://www.finscreener.com/

>Screeners
https://finviz.com/
https://www.tradingview.com/screener
https://etfdb.com/

>Pre-Market Data and Live Data
https://www.investing.com/indices/indices-futures
https://finance.yahoo.com/

>Wife Market:
https://safebooru.org/index.php?page=post&s=list&tags=maid

>Bio-pharma Catalyst Calendar
https://biopharmcatalyst.com

>Boomer Investing 101
https://www.bogleheads.org/wiki/Getting_started

>Dividend Reinvestment (DRIP) Calculator
https://www.dividendchannel.com/drip-returns-calculator/

>List of hedge fund holdings
https://fintel.io/

>Suggested books:
https://pastebin.com/jgA5zTuC

>Misc
https://squeezemetrics.com/monitor
https://market24hclock.com/
https://tradingeconomics.com

>Previous thread:
>>21422152

[Anonymous No.21431741]

>enter /smg/
>save OP pic
>leave
Keep it up guys

[Anonymous No.21431760]

>>21431741
>>21431700
based

[Anonymous No.21431782]

The stock market is closed. Why are the threads being created? Don’t you guys have a life? Come back Monday morning.

[Anonymous No.21431787]

If you sell covered calls, you'll be able to afford ice cream for you and a friend!

[Anonymous No.21431789]

$GAXY train

[Anonymous No.21431798]

Went to the last thread wanting to ask questions about covered calls, saw you guys already had a covered call 101 class in there lol. Gonna try stuff this week and see if I get it.
I have 1 question though. On TD it says you can do covered calls if you have the same amount of shares in it. Since an options contract is technically 100 shares, does that mean I need 100 shares in a company to sell 1 option contract on TD?

[Anonymous No.21431806]

>>21431789
Fuck off.

[Anonymous No.21431811]

>>21431782
No we don't.

[Anonymous No.21431815]

>>21431782
If i had a life I wouldn't be here

[Anonymous No.21431826]

Coomer edition

[Anonymous No.21431855]

>>21431700
Seriously, you guys jerk off to this shit? How do you get off to cartoons? I don't think I could do it

[Anonymous No.21431908]

>>21431855
2D does not have the imperfections of 3D.
Alas, they will never exist.

[Anonymous No.21431947]

>>21431855
Can he not appreciate perfect linings and artistic perfection? Go get a hambeast wife and live your life then

[Anonymous No.21431953]

Haven't posted in quite a while since kicking my options habit several weeks ago. Still enjoying throwing cash into the roth while I can. Need to start collecting more ex-US etfs desu. Pic related is sorted by total position dollar value.

[Anonymous No.21431979]

>>21431826
No, it is maid edition.
>>21431782
Weekend editions are when the true genius of /smg/ is exposed. Also I have nothing else to do.

[Anonymous No.21432002]

>>21431953
>all this random garbage
dude why

[Anonymous No.21432106]

>>21432002
This is a monthly cash generating machine. At some point I will cull all of the etracs into Schwab and Vanguard core funds, but I for once timed the drop and later the buy in very successfully back in March into April and May and rode the principal gains up quite nicely. My 401K is for all of the boring shit. Almost every week I see cash rolling in, quarterly divvies are just icing on the cake.

[Anonymous No.21432111]

[Anonymous No.21432125]

Why are 20 year US treasuries dumping so much this last 10 days?

[Anonymous No.21432128]

>>21431855
you have to not be gay

[Anonymous No.21432151]

>>21431953
I don't think you have enough positions. I would open more if I were you.

[Anonymous No.21432157]

>>21432106
just go 75% spy 25% tqqq drop all this trash. sorry to be rude but all of that is just stuff that's worse than spy

[Anonymous No.21432179]

>>21432157
If you's suggesting TQQQ then why not UPRO instead of SPY?

[Anonymous No.21432232]

do we like Ben Felix here?

[Anonymous No.21432249]

>>21432151
>>21432157
I hear you, but honestly for the last year and especially since corona I've gotten obsessed with researching funds and it's the last exciting thing left in my life through this lockdown hell. My Vanguard 401K is about as simple and boring as it gets and after about 10 years the gains are just as would be expected, this is kind of just for fun desu. Lucky that it's worked out, I know.

[Anonymous No.21432300]

>>21432249
I get you. My IRA and 403b are a bunch of boring shit so I browse smg for weird positions. I have some TQQQ now which I never even knew about before and NET

[Anonymous No.21432351]

>>21431855
Shut up faggot. You lack the refined tastes of a 2D connoisseur. Enjoy your fat, bloated, putrid, yeasty 3D piglets.
>>21431908
>Alas, they will never exist.
The curse of perfection.
>>21432249
Can't knock it if it works. If you have a strategy that works for you that's good enough.

[Anonymous No.21432363]

>>21431855
imagination. one point of time there were porn mags. crazy I know. You wanna know whats more crazy? a lot of models people jerk off to is photoshopped. crazy right?

[Anonymous No.21432368]

What’s his plan? Why is Trump so obsessed with the stock market? I’m getting Trevor Milton vibes

[Anonymous No.21432437]

MARKET'S CLOSED

[Anonymous No.21432440]

>>21432125

You think the US will last 20 years?

[Anonymous No.21432525]

Never bet against the mouse

[Anonymous No.21432728]

>>21431953
>having 40 ETFs just to track the broad market

[Anonymous No.21432868]

>>21432363

>You wanna know whats more crazy? a lot of models people jerk off to is photoshopped. crazy right?

I imagine that 90% of all pictures women post online are photoshopped or filtered in some way.

[Anonymous No.21432900]

what are the financial implications of big businesses moving out of the big cities? they are shitholes and the police won't protect them.

[Anonymous No.21432956]

Tandy Leather Factory delisted

[Anonymous No.21432983]

goodnight fellow anons, may the stock market gainz be with you on opening monday morning.

[Anonymous No.21433021]

>>21431700
hey i remember this pic
>>21431979
but not this one, excellent!
loving maid edition

[Anonymous No.21433025]

been seeing more anime in /smg/ threads lately, this is maximum comfy

[Anonymous No.21433090]

>>21431700
That's man

[Anonymous No.21433099]

>>21431798
Yes to sell covered calls you need 100 shares to sell one contract. With margin of course you can still sell naked calls, but that is much riskier. Simple example I have stock with an average price of $57. The stock was trading in the upper $54 range. I have 700 shares and sold 7 calls for 0.40 each. Currently the stock is around $42, so likely I will keep all $280 minus commission I made. But what if the stock went to $60? Then my shares sold for $58, but I still kept the call money. If I didn't own this stock then I would have to pay the two dollar per share difference. So a $280 call would have cost me $1400.

[Anonymous No.21433108]

>>21431700
FUCCKCKCKKCKCKCKCKCKCKBITS FUCKING HABBENING

[Anonymous No.21433138]

So if the front page story on every financial news site has been "six new reasons the CRASH IS IMMINENT AAAAA" for weeks, does that mean it's unironically priced in?

[Anonymous No.21433168]

>>21433099
Thanks!!
Shit, gonna have to go with poor stocks then lol.

[Anonymous No.21433201]

>>21433138
anon, what does "being priced in" mean? i promise to post pictures of cats doing cool things if you help me out here.

here's a picture of a hedgehog as a down payment.

[Anonymous No.21433243]

>>21433138
It means crash is imminent.

[Anonymous No.21433256]

>>21433201
that a certain piece of news won't move the market because the market has already discovered a price which takes the news into account beforehand – for example, there may not be a huge pump on vaccine approval, because the market is already acting like a vaccine will be approved this year

if one isn't, AAAAAAAAAAAAA

[Anonymous No.21433274]

>>21431741
good deal

[Anonymous No.21433307]

>>21433256

here is a picture of undercat.

[Anonymous No.21433309]

>>21433168
Yeah selling covered calls is more a game for those with money. My 700 Citi shares cost me around 40k. To make $280 max on selling the calls.

[Anonymous No.21433364]

>>21432900
They won't move out of big cities. What they will do is select locations that are harder to access during civil unrest. Mainly less street level storefront type arrangement.

[Anonymous No.21433400]

>>21433364
Why wouldn't they move out of big cities when you combine work from home with online shopping? What's the point of the city other than titty bars?

[Anonymous No.21433410]

>>21433138
It just means the media is keen on stoking fear at the moment. They have a number of reasons for doing so, none of which are beneficial to citizens or the health of the economy in general.

[Anonymous No.21433416]

>>21433309
Just for clarification (Because ive never sold options lol)
IF the price per option is say $1
When I sell a contract
I would get $100 - fees correct? I know about how if the stock goes above the sell price im fucked and how you want the stock to stay under your sell price.
Still though, "easy" $280 will be NICE when I eventually get that type of money

[Anonymous No.21433418]

>>21433364

pretty sure that's racist to move above/away to safety. you have to have rolex shops in the ghetto so BLM can diversify the store.

[Anonymous No.21433432]

I don't trade stocks, but I clicked on this thread because of the OP image.

[Anonymous No.21433460]

>>21433432

what coins do you own

[Anonymous No.21433487]

>>21433201
this is correct. >>21433256 Thing moves on rumor of news or anticipation of likely news in absence of actual credible rumor. It's the basis for the saying of 'buy rumor sell news'. That saying just means long the run up then sell once the news is made public on the thinking that this will be the totality of the beneficial price action related to that good news.

[Anonymous No.21433496]

>>21433432
download robinhood, put $500 in and spend it all on a TQQQ 150 call 8/21

[Anonymous No.21433532]

>>21433418
>pretty sure that's racist
Obviously.

[Anonymous No.21433555]

>>21433400
I guess some brick n' mortar still makes money some way.

[Anonymous No.21433564]

>>21433416
Yes at $1 per contract price you would get $100 minus any commission.

[Anonymous No.21433573]

>>21431855
I agree, they are grotesque caricatures of females

[Anonymous No.21433594]

>>21433564
Thank You!!! Will stop being a newfag now thanks again.

[Anonymous No.21433617]

AAPL predictions eow going into split?

[Anonymous No.21433624]

>>21433573
>I agree, they are grotesque caricatures of females

[Anonymous No.21433678]

>>21433573
We're talking about anime not trannies

[Anonymous No.21433701]

>>21433496
I understand that those are cheap as fuck options, but how the hell do you profit off of this?

[Anonymous No.21433704]

>>21433624
Pedo

[Anonymous No.21433726]

>>21433701
hope next week is a GOLDEN BULL RUN

[Anonymous No.21433750]

Is buying Apple at this point just FOMO

[Anonymous No.21433761]

>>21433256
>if one isn't, AAAAAAAAAAAAA
Yes! That's another commonly made mistake among new traders. Thing pumps on rumor, rumor is confirmed in news release but it's not quite as good expected. It's still good for the company but not amazing. Thing dumps. Hard. New fren trader asks WHY THING DUMP THE NEWS WAS GOOD?? And yes, the news was good. But not equivalent to the expected. Therefore speculators beat it and you had better, too, lest you be holding that bag filled with hopes and dreams.

[Anonymous No.21433764]

[Anonymous No.21433827]

Thoughts on Workhorse? One of you guys (presumably) came into the bathroom at work and started talking about it and told me to invest

[Anonymous No.21433842]

Is it time to just unload these heavy bags.

[Anonymous No.21433845]

>>21433827
did you suck his cock?

[Anonymous No.21433871]

>>21433827
should have been here some months ago when it was shilled at $4~

[Anonymous No.21433876]

>>21432368
Watch his Twitter and see if he post good news about the market pull out he is warning his billionaire buddies

[Anonymous No.21433886]

>>21433842
Why did you do this

[Anonymous No.21433927]

>he missed out on CLSK
>he missed out on WKHS
>he missed out on NLS
>he missed out on NKLA

don't miss out on NTNX

[Anonymous No.21433934]

>>21433827
It dumped on earnings despite them being fine, so there's worse times to invest. There were better times, too; but that's always the case. The basic bull thesis is that they have a truck certified both federally and in California as a road legal zero emissions vehicle. That's more than pretty much any other EV company bar Tesla can say.

[Anonymous No.21433971]

>>21431979
>tfw /pmg/ is now a mess
I will be a prodigal prodigal son and return to the motherland /smg/. This is a nice edition. I hope the weekends are quiet and more thoughtful again. How are we feeling about looming defaults and deflation bits? Did King Boomer shit the bed buying Barrick?

[Anonymous No.21434049]

>>21433886
I’ve had this position since 2018.

[Anonymous No.21434068]

>>21433927
>t. NTNX bag holder since February

[Anonymous No.21434089]

>>21433927
What would I be missing out on Calls/Puts? From what I see they're always operating at a loss

[Anonymous No.21434141]

>>21433971
eventually the market has to go down

but today is not that day

[Anonymous No.21434197]

>>21434089
Calls, earnings run up. At the bottom of it's short term range and long term range

[Anonymous No.21434205]

>>21433761
and then the newfag scream "clownworld" and refuses to learn the lesson...

>>21433971
It's not even 1% of the portfolio. Berkshire bought more of a Sirius subsidiary than they did Barrick. I should've dumped on the afterhours FOMO, but I expect Barrick to keep rising. Earnings were pretty solid.

I'm a little concerned about Newmont or Kinross or Wheaton not being able to handle a pandemic as well as Barrick.

This is RING, my main gold miner etf... maybe I should just sell it and add to my Barrick position

[Anonymous No.21434252]

>>21434205
>and then the newfag scream "clownworld" and refuses to learn the lesson...
Yes.

[Anonymous No.21434253]

>>21434141
I mean, it's Saturday, so if course not. I'm really unsure of what the equities markets are doing at all. I think it's generally overbought, but others are pointing to potential deflationary pressure and inflationary expectations. LQD did shit this week. Lots of motion.

[Anonymous No.21434263]

Is there a website wear I can read about all the different companies. Like one that has stock analysis shit but also I can read about the company itself and their key people and shit, other than Wikipedia

[Anonymous No.21434277]

So if I buy through a broker, I actually own the share, right? Also, how do bonds in countries work, are Israeli bonds actually profitable? What is the best broker for a Canadian?

[Anonymous No.21434350]

>>21434197
So you're saying that despite past history with this stock decreasing in value because of negative earnings you think it will increase in value with negative earnings

[Anonymous No.21434361]

>>21434253
well the real yield on treasuries is negative out to 30 years

so something is fucky but it's been like that since the crash

[Anonymous No.21434380]

>>21434277
>So if I buy through a broker, I actually own the share, right?
Yes and you can transfer that share between different brokers if you want. It's a hassle but you can.
>What is the best broker for a Canadian?
Overall I think it's Questrade. Which isn't saying a lot. Leafs have shitty choices for brokers. IB is cheaper on fees. Wealthsimple is pseudo no-fee but read the fine print as they ARE taking a cut from you in another way.

I don't know the answer to your question about international bonds.

[Anonymous No.21434411]

>>21434263
Do you mean like yahoo finance?

[Anonymous No.21434440]

>>21433934
Thanks for the info, I never looked into trading before but I might take a chance with this one. Just need to look into how and what accounts to set up.

[Anonymous No.21434478]

>>21434205
>It's not even 1% of the portfolio.
Usually positions are pretty small. I'm still shocked he has anything gold related. I'm expecting the deflationary pressure to be due to the tenants and mortgage defaults. Very glad I changed up my 401 today to mostly cash again.

[Anonymous No.21434496]

>>21434252
cute clown!

[Anonymous No.21434507]

>>21434361
The 08 one, right? Maybe VZ will be a good proxy for the bond market.

[Anonymous No.21434529]

Is Clorox the safest stock right now in case of another corona crash?

[Anonymous No.21434545]

>>21434380
Thanks anon. The international bonds thing was just something I'm curious about.
I'm just a zoomer with some loose change.

[Anonymous No.21434656]

>>21431700
bro these maid pics have me fully torqued

>>21432956
is it a good thing or a bad thing

[Anonymous No.21434669]

>missed out on bitcoin
>missed out on tesla
>missed out on chainlink
i knew about all those things when they very tiny but didnt invest. i want zo kms so badly bros

[Anonymous No.21434732]

>>21433460
ETH/LINK/ADA/XLM/REQ; basically coins from 2017.
>>21433496
What about 50 dollars?

[Anonymous No.21434811]

>>21434669
I just had a dream that bitcoin pumped over 20k
don't worry about that, just get a job and buy great stocks
it feels so good
you'll never want to kys yourself again

also GSL is on in an hour ~

[Anonymous No.21434859]

>>21431700
Give me one reason to choose NVDA over AAPL

[Anonymous No.21434882]

>>21434496
Maybe oil will do something soon so I can have an excuse to shop more clownpi pics :o
>>21432956
wtfffffff the summer sale!

[Anonymous No.21434890]

>>21434545
In the US bonds are loosely separated into municipal (state and local), treasury-backed (federal), and corporate. The original holders can sell them on the secondary markets to other entities similar to stocks. Although the bond market tends to be (a) much larger allotments than stocks and (b) less fluid on a day-to-day basis. Bonds are typically valued in deflationary environments because of their fixed returns (annual and to maturity). They return less than stocks but that is because the downside risk is much smaller. As long as the entity who owns the bond can pay its debts, a low bar, you cannot lose money on the investment (if you are adjust for inflation you might if the returns are too low). Corporate bonds that default usually mean the stock has imploded too. In most bankruptcy proceedings, bondholders are compensated first (cents on the dollar) before equity (stock) holders.
The main practical advantages between the three categories is return/risk and tax treatment. Corporate bonds have highest returns but most businesses over time eventually go bankrupt. Municipal bonds have slightly less with slightly less risk of default if picked carefully but the main advantage is that the capital returns are frequently exempted from local and state taxes, especially if you live there. Federal bonds are the same for the federal level and have the lowest risk of all but the lowest returns. International bonds will likely not have these tax privileges for where you live. ETFs sourced from one of your country's stock exchanges might be a good way to get this kind of exposure and not get hit with multiple taxes (foreign and local).
Uncertainty is very high and fears of deflation have made the premiums on good bonds absurd and junk bonds basically price controlled by central banks. This is mainly because bonds protect the nominal value of your wealth (a preoccupation of wealthy conservative investors).

[Anonymous No.21434899]

>>21434669
Terrible mindset. Who cares about meme stocks that pump 500% in a short period of time. The same people who gamble on shit like that are the ones who will end up getting greedy and losing everything. It’s all about that 10% annual compound interest.

Also I bought Tesla at $350 and sold at $1620

[Anonymous No.21434909]

can GOOG crash next week?

thanks

[Anonymous No.21434934]

>>21431855
You have no taste.

[Anonymous No.21434938]

I just moved to UK, can i spread bet the same way as if I would be investing in stocks? Like put all my mother on IG.com & open positions without margin (or with a very low margin). and than hodl for long?

[Anonymous No.21434962]

>>21434938
>I just moved to UK
ohnonononononon hahahahahaaahahaha

[Anonymous No.21434985]

>>21434938
>just moved to UK
ngmi

[Anonymous No.21435018]

>>21434882
what does the clown have to do with oil

>>21434909
it can but it probably will do the opposite of crashing

[Anonymous No.21435100]

>>21434938
>UK
you're fucked mate. Have you not been listening to what's been happening to them recently?
>Margin
New country and you're already borrowing money. Really dude?

[Anonymous No.21435126]

>>21435018
She causes mischief with it! In reality nothing, I was just playing LoLK during the oil crash. Call that a "self-meme", a meme just in my brain

[Anonymous No.21435205]

>tfw sold airlines at the bottom and bought gold at the top
it was with my retirement money also. hold me /biz/. at least my apple shares are doing well.

[Anonymous No.21435206]

Get ready

[Anonymous No.21435211]

>>21435126
hmmm yes I see now
before I was confused but now it all makes sense

[Anonymous No.21435226]

>>21434938
just buy stocks through your bank you fucking mongoloid

[Anonymous No.21435335]

I got fucked today, biz... and not in a good way...

[Anonymous No.21435353]

>>21434938
>I just moved to Uk
Why, retard?

[Anonymous No.21435367]

>>21431741

every single time

[Anonymous No.21435612]

Why aren’t you guys day trading?

[Anonymous No.21435647]

What stock/ETF can I long term hold so I don't just have cash sitting in my bank acc

[Anonymous No.21435664]

>>21435647
The usual

[Anonymous No.21435694]

>>21435647
SCHD

[Anonymous No.21435720]

>>21435647
ATT or Coca Coola

[Anonymous No.21435734]

>>21435612
>the swag academy
Guarantee you this faggot sells courses on surface level trading knowledge

[Anonymous No.21435747]

>>21435647
WKHS TSLA SPCE KODK

[Anonymous No.21435757]

>>21435647
/leanhogs/

[Anonymous No.21435772]

Thought today was Thursday lads. Totally fucked up everything. Had to take my mom to emercengy early in am abd I guess I just kept think it was Thursday and no one told me.

[Anonymous No.21435817]

>>21435772
Welcome to Saturday morning. Hope your mom's okay.

[Anonymous No.21435843]

>>21435734
100%

[Anonymous No.21435884]

>>21435772
Should left your mom on the floor and traded crypto like a true jamal jackson

[Anonymous No.21435922]

>>21435206
FULL STOP COMMUNICATION CALAMITY

[Anonymous No.21435958]

>Buffet bought ~600M in Barrick shares
the leadership change in BRK will be a interesting watch, those new guys are pro accountants btw

[Anonymous No.21435993]

>>21435205
>gold top
zoom out the chart, this is maybe this months top, 2500 by eoy

[Anonymous No.21435994]

>>21435958
If you get rich enough do your name also show up on the news if you invest a large amount of $?

[Anonymous No.21436008]

>>21435612
>a millionaire day trader!!! watch does he does it!!!
>scalps a thousand grand with $10k orders, pure luck
>montage of the lucky shit trades
>makes up some garbage that's more retarded than even TA
>sells you some shitty course
>(no evidence of having a million in account anywhere because only a literal retard would daytrade with this amount of money)

[Anonymous No.21436022]

>>21435647
2x leveraged lean hogs futures ETF

[Anonymous No.21436037]

>>21433971
ironically there's very little in /pmg/ about Buffett and the impact on miners in general.

[Anonymous No.21436072]

>>21435817
Thanks man she was good, but apparently TONES of people with covid inside. Wouldn’t even let me in the hospital. Crazy times these days

[Anonymous No.21436081]

Anybody jump on this gravy train?

Easiest money I'll ever make.

[Anonymous No.21436093]

>>21435994
Idk, but barrick shot up 10% in after mkt, because of that.

[Anonymous No.21436120]

>>21436081
Was that an ipo?

[Anonymous No.21436131]

>>21433971
>>21436037
NOOOOOOOOOOO
SELL ALL MINERS
SENILE OLD FAGGOT STOCKS CONFIRMED

[Anonymous No.21436141]

>>21436008
>scalps with 10k orders
these are the worst, its so fucking easy to scalp say 300 bucks on a 100k bet and there are so many so called 'traders' on yt that present themselves as pros by doing this. Well on the otherhand there are prop firms that literally do this all day and make half a milly by end of the day, but still kinda pathetic.

[Anonymous No.21436158]

>>21436037
>pmg
because they dont follow the stock market (except when it crashes), because those boomers think its a sham kek

[Anonymous No.21436163]

>>21433971
>>21436131
>buys the airlines top
>now buys gold top

[Anonymous No.21436164]

>>21436141
you're forgetting the 90% of the bad trades they've made and lost that they didn't put in the video

[Anonymous No.21436169]

>>21436120

Yep. Company working on COVID vaccine that was backed by Microsoft.

[Anonymous No.21436200]

>>21436141
>>21436164
One trick when selling courses is having two accounts and going long on one and short on another and then showing the successful trade in your advertising.

[Anonymous No.21436209]

>>21436164
yep, not to mention the source of the initial capital, im guessing 90% are trust fund babies

[Anonymous No.21436242]

So where is this going? I'm tempted to short silver.

[Anonymous No.21436245]

>>21436200
KEK, one of the famous ones got caught trading in a demo account by mistake btw

[Anonymous No.21436259]

>>21436245

[Anonymous No.21436284]

>>21436242
21.50-22.50, but be careful it can go up 10-20% overnight just because of some black swan, a lot of people have blown up by shorting these volatile/geopolitical type of assets

[Anonymous No.21436301]

>>21436141
I especially dislike that one guy who keeps shilling his drop shipping course

[Anonymous No.21436311]

>>21436169
Of course it was, never heard anything here lol. It’s mostly people say never touch an ipo cause it dumps but idk

[Anonymous No.21436327]

>>21436284
also a lot of people have a longterm tgt of $35-40, just so you know that when it will start moving, people wont take profits that fast

[Anonymous No.21436348]

>>21436242
I’m shorting then as well

[Anonymous No.21436351]

>>21436311
well it depends, if the corp has fundamental or meme potential then it will drop a bit and then take off, just because the underwriters want to accumulate more of it aka DKNG

[Anonymous No.21436352]

>>21436242

[Anonymous No.21436376]

Fingers crossed for Monday. Had a trash day today

[Anonymous No.21436381]

>>21434859
Nvidia Ampere will be launching soon

>t. Zoomer who's waiting for new GPU to crypto mining

[Anonymous No.21436382]

>>21436352
yup, 21.50-22.50 area, there's no certainty that it will hit the line tho

[Anonymous No.21436384]

>>21433364
they absolutely will leave big cities. because white flight has already started and those places are going to implode detroit style. why would businesses remain in a location where nobody has money to shop and people who do have money will avoid the area like the plague?

[Anonymous No.21436424]

>>21436382
To be fair I'm probably in the camp of slv pushing to the mid 30s so I think once the correction is over it'll be a decent time to buy in

[Anonymous No.21436463]

>>21435018
>21435018
I tried to wipe her titty mole off

[Anonymous No.21436483]

>>21436424
I was in that camp and made my first call option, such a great feeling. SLV totally pulled through. Then I got paper hands and took profit, now I’m hoping it slides down next week

[Anonymous No.21436494]

>>21433971
>KraftHeinz
>Occidental
>Wells Fargo
>Buying the airlines top, selling the bottom
>Buying the gold top
>Sitting on 140 bn in CASH through the best buying opportunity since 2008

Boomer Buffet is DONE

[Anonymous No.21436515]

>>21436494
Also
>IBM

[Anonymous No.21436521]

>>21436424
>To be fair I'm probably in the camp of slv pushing to the mid 30s
Is there a reason for this?

[Anonymous No.21436530]

>>21436424
same

[Anonymous No.21436540]

>>21436384
You're right they will leave if the money is leaving.

[Anonymous No.21436542]

>>21436494
He wasn’t even the one who decided to buy Apple, apparently it was one of his executives who did that one

[Anonymous No.21436545]

>>21436521
Economic uncertainty drives precious metal investment

[Anonymous No.21436563]

>>21436494
he makes mistakes a lot, but now the new guys are taking over, remember the he also bought loads of AAPL

[Anonymous No.21436579]

>>21436494
also he mostly doesnt buy shares on the open mkt, his prices are way different than ours

[Anonymous No.21436581]

>>21436245
Whups!

[Anonymous No.21436585]

>>21436542
Wow

[Anonymous No.21436618]

>>21436521
suppliers tightening up the supply, demand is up, if economy picks up it will rise even further. Fear of inflation/fiat collapse will linger for a long time, When there are diminishing returns in many asset classes, 10% of folio in pms is becoming the standard.

[Anonymous No.21436636]

>>21436521
The long version? The fact that the world economy is a rotten log utterly reliant on debt for one, and things like the historic gold:silver ratio being very out of whack. I know there's a lot of stonks traders here but a market held together by zero interest rate bonds with a big potential for inflation is an fundamentally un-sound market to me. All of which is bullish for PMs
The short version is >>21436545

[Anonymous No.21436794]

Did some light research and backtesting and by far the best returns seems to be to just buy land and become a landlord. Rent means that you can always run ahead of inflation and have large margins. Riskier but even more rewarding is becoming a vacation rental landlord since the lack of permanent tenants means you can charge nearly hotel rates on a day to day basis. Covid was a definite black swan but boomers had the right idea.
TO truly make it you need to become a landjew and contribute nothing of value to society except rent seeking.

[Anonymous No.21436887]

>>21436794
wrong

[Anonymous No.21436939]

is buying us steel retarded?

[Anonymous No.21437065]

>>21436939
Yes

[Anonymous No.21437075]

>>21436794
>Did some light research and backtesting
lmao
>the best returns seems to be to just buy land and become a landlord
only works if you get in when the market is right and not in a massive bubble, which excludes a lot of property markets around the world. Land itself isn't a bad idea so long as you live somewhere with no LVT

[Anonymous No.21437114]

>>21436794
What helps real estate is the gigantic leverage, leading to high return on the equity you put in

And if home prices fall all the boomers FREAK OUT, causing massive stimulus by the government - making any pain short lived

[Anonymous No.21437137]

>>21436939
Not as hedge against china conflict

[Anonymous No.21437179]

>>21437075
>massive bubble

Most of the US is far from any bubble. Population is rising. Interest rates are falling.

Look at Europe, 80% of people are forced to live in literal sheds. Coming to US very soon. Buy before it's too late

[Anonymous No.21437208]

For this reason, Disney has done everything in its power to make sure it retains the copyright on Mickey -- even if that means changing federal statutes. Every time Mickey’s copyright is about to expire, Disney spends millions lobbying Congress for extensions, and trading campaign contributions for legislative support. With crushing legal force, they’ve squelched anyone who attempts to disagree with them.

https://priceonomics.com/how-mickey-mouse-evades-the-public-domain/#:~:text=Mickey%20Mouse%20was%20brought%20into,the%20corporation)%20grew%20increasingly%20anxious.

[Anonymous No.21437226]

>>21437065
>>21437137
thanks

[Anonymous No.21437375]

>>21437179
>Interest rates are falling
are you an idiot?

[Anonymous No.21437389]

Buffetts buying gold miners whilst your still fucking around with electric vehicles ngmi

[Anonymous No.21437550]

why can't the markets be 24/7 like crypto?

[Anonymous No.21437581]

>>21437208
Don’t bet against the mouse

[Anonymous No.21437592]

>>21437550
so that the inside traders have time to plan

[Anonymous No.21437631]

>>21437389
Bearish af

[Anonymous No.21437716]

>>21437581
I wonder where are the idiots on this board that tried to short Disney on earnings

[Anonymous No.21437856]

NET niggers what it do?
thinking about copping that bitch after that nice pullback. Also i think it can rebound at 38. Buy?

[Anonymous No.21437879]

>>21437389
fuck off warren
go sell some more airlines at the bottom or something

>MUH BUFFET INDICATOR

[Anonymous No.21437890]

Always inverse Buffet for massive gains.

[Anonymous No.21437904]

>>21437879
REEEEEE

[Anonymous No.21437911]

>>21437856
zoom out the chart, look at its historic trajectory, and ask yourself if there's any reason for that upward momentum to stop given the new projects it had over it's horizons. People are just too impatient with NET despite how stable it is and the fact that they're already a large player on the modern internet.

[Anonymous No.21437942]

>you have to bet exactly like or the inverse of Buffett
The absolute state of /smg/

[Anonymous No.21437960]

>>21437389
It's only 0.5% of his folio. Who knows if it was even him who bought this. The possibility exists considering his BAC add and GS/JPM cut.

[Anonymous No.21437967]

>>21437911
weeeeell i always zoom out, but they increased revenue by 50% so if they keep doing that...
however they are still posting net losses so yeah. IDK i just want a nice growth stock but i missed the FAGMAN bullrun.

which larger player?

[Anonymous No.21437974]

>>21437942
Welcome to 4channel

[Anonymous No.21438019]

>>21437389
Most of the posters are here not because they like trading but they just want to be apart of something, buying pnds and meme lols are a great way to solidify themselves into the community

[Anonymous No.21438025]

Why would the boomer drop WFC now? Isn't it like actually turning around with what Charlie Scharf is doing? I get it that he might think that BAC is best in terms of price/quality and JPM might be a little bit overpriced, but why sell WFC now?

[Anonymous No.21438043]

>>21437942
Someone needs to make a Buffet algo that tracks how much are you following/inverting Buffet's plays.

[Anonymous No.21438052]

>>21438025
never buy financials
problem solved

[Anonymous No.21438058]

>>21438025
he's selling all banks except BAC, banks are starting to look like dead money, don't know what's the reason behind that BAC hold tho

[Anonymous No.21438093]

>>21438025
>turning around
the bank is too big, look what they did just to pump a bit their revenue, it is fighting just to keep their share not gain more of it

[Anonymous No.21438213]

>>21431700
Should I keep trading options or dump my money into an index fund?

[Anonymous No.21438268]

3 more episodes till I'm finished with Kaiji
They really milking out this pachinko

[Anonymous No.21438414]

I have a tax question regarding wash sales. Say I buy and sell for a $300 profit. Then buy back but panic sell at a $300 loss, only to buy and sell for $300 profit again. Do I get taxed on the $300 I made overall, or is the loss ignored and I get taxed for the 2 gains at $600?

I read that wash sale losses get added to the cost basis and am hoping that means I only get taxed for the $300, but want to be sure.

[Anonymous No.21438475]

>>21437967
If you looked at literally any FAGMAN in its first few years you'd have the same conclusion. Remember they I vesting is different from day trading. If you're investing in so etching you're most likely not expecting a worthwhile return for a few years while your money is parked. Nobody is ok g to be able to tell you what the next FAGMAN is, but you're not going to find it by being too scared to dip your toes into companies that have untapped potential. If you don't like Cloudflare there are other companies you can look for, but if you don't decide on any of them you'll just look back 5 years later and go "man, I wanna invest in the next FAGMANLETTE but dunno what to pick."

[Anonymous No.21438595]

>tfw can't buy shares in eBussy
This will do well on the market. I'd buy an eBussy if I didn't need the money for uni.

[Anonymous No.21438628]

>>21438475
true, i sort of missread your first post. thanks!

[Anonymous No.21438672]

>Deutsche Bank
>price to book : 0.3
It's over, isn't it?

[Anonymous No.21438714]

>>21438672
Ich hoffe doch

[Anonymous No.21438741]

So, if there's a second wave of 'rona, I should buy many shares, right?

[Anonymous No.21438745]

>>21436169
>>21436081
>Super obvious moon IPO
>NOBODY on /smg/ says ANYTHING about it
lmao figures

[Anonymous No.21438786]

>>21438741
>another liquidity crunch
Tech moons
>recovery begins
Tech moons
>it was a fake rally
Tech moons
>normal operation
Tech moons
Do you see a pattern?

[Anonymous No.21438878]

>SMRT actually mooned after filing for bankruptcy with no hope of recovery
Fucking clown market

[Anonymous No.21438892]

>time in the market beats timing the market
>price doesn’t matter if you’re going long term
Why do delusional people say this?

[Anonymous No.21439072]

>>21438892
>stonckies only go uppies
>somehow not a baseless assumption
>HURRR I'm not do gambling with money.s
Some people are simply retarded.

[Anonymous No.21439731]

get CODX cheapies boys

[Anonymous No.21439827]

>>21431789
$GAXY will moon

[Anonymous No.21439915]

Is PayPal a good stock?

[Anonymous No.21440143]

>>21439072
Yea unless you bought at top of dot com bubble and needed 16 years to break even minus inflation

[Anonymous No.21440218]

net will reach 40 dollars by this friday right haha

[Anonymous No.21440341]

>>21439915
I have it so probably not

[Anonymous No.21440359]

Happy Caturday

[Anonymous No.21440433]

Good stocks for long term holds?

[Anonymous No.21440485]

I can’t believe portnoy is pumping my link bags and Buffett is buying gold the normies are giving up and hopping on the meme train

[Anonymous No.21440711]

>>21440218

[Anonymous No.21440752]

New to investing. Canadian

Throwing 1k a month into my TFSA for long term holding (longer than 3-5 years)

I was looking at putting it all into tsx:xic

Not interested in day trading. Just looking for a good mix of growth and dividends.

What is /SMG/'s thoughts?

[Anonymous No.21440787]

>>21440359
yay

[Anonymous No.21440856]

>>21437942
>incapable of getting butthurt
is it possible to learn this power?....

[Anonymous No.21440936]

>>21440433
FAGMAN stonks
But they’re pretty expensive right now so I’d look for other sectors until FAGMAN calms down or has a correction. I’m bullish on Disney visa and Pepsi

[Anonymous No.21440937]

>>21440752
HFU, HXU

If you want a good entry point, buy when they touch the mid bollinger band (on the candle stick daily graph) if you're bullish or wait for them to touch the lower bollinger band if you think it's going to crab.

[Anonymous No.21440940]

>>21433400
even retailers that have leaned more heavily on their e commerce side (like Aritzia) still can't make a profit with e commerce alone. And they will always need brick and mortar stores as a showroom for their online offerings.

commercial real estate in big cities are definitely profitable and in demand. GAP tried to weasel out of paying rents through lockdown, but they ended up paying their rents anyways when they were threatened immediately with eviction in Canada.
however, I imagine in the US that big businesses have a ton of other big cities to pick other than Chicago so they're fucked. Meanwhile in Canada, there's only like a handful of choices, like Toronto alone is already a big portion of Canada's GDP, hence why the real estate bubble doesn't fucking pop in Canada.

[Anonymous No.21440957]

>>21440752
>>21440937
And here's a picture of bollinger bands.

[Anonymous No.21441027]

>>21440787
That’s a quality cat.

[Anonymous No.21441056]

>>21440359
>suicidal cat posting

[Anonymous No.21441098]

>>21440752
TSX is *SHIT*.
do norbert's gambit and trade in the US market instead.
you're going to miss out entirely on tech exposure (unless you count shopify) if you only trade in the TSX

if you just want dividends, then i guess look into REI.UN? BPY and HR.UN are similar but they cut dividends during lockdown already. Meanwhile REI.UN is still paying dividends (didn't cut through 08-09 either) and real payout ratio (ignoring accounting bullshit with unused real estate valuations) is still around ~80%. Rent collection in Q2 was pretty high, 86.8%, though of course there were abatements/deferrals whatever.

interpret the real estate valuations as you will. The real estate bubble around Toronto is only bubbling even more and still doesn't look like it will pop anytime soon. A shit ton of people buying more houses, and obviously these people aren't buying houses with CERB money so clearly the unemployment crisis has not affected the people who can/want to buy houses in the first place.

[Anonymous No.21441124]

>>21431789
OTC penny trash that up 200% fucking avoid like the plague

[Anonymous No.21441141]

>>21436072
More like they were recording a choreographed tiktok video and didn't want you wandering around because they were on take 14

[Anonymous No.21441142]

>>21441098
>>you're going to miss out entirely on tech exposure (unless you count shopify) if you only trade in the TSX
He could buy HQU or an ETF hedged to CAD like TEC if he wants tech and it's not wise to buy USD assets with CAD when CAD is low and USD is historically high.

[Anonymous No.21441193]

>>21441098
Couldn't I do both?

Since my budget for my investing money is around 1k a month I could do alternating months.

One month into xic the other month into sp500 or some other U.S etf?

[Anonymous No.21441214]

What is the chainlink of stocks?

[Anonymous No.21441261]

>>21441142
>and it's not wise to buy USD assets with CAD when CAD is low and USD is historically high.
CAD is back to pre-corona levels.
and as for the exchange rate fee, that's why you do something like Norbert's gambit to avoid it entirely, some brokers will even let you do it completely online yourself.
though with batches of $1K, the commissions would probably be more significant than the exchange rate fees. Definitely saves you a lot of money past $2k and so on.

[Anonymous No.21441262]

>>21441214
apple
>everyone says it's useless overpriced garbage
>keeps going up forever anyway

[Anonymous No.21441284]

>>21441214
RTX

[Anonymous No.21441289]

>>21441142
I just looked up the tax:tec

That looks like a great growth etf. I am probably going to go half and half on it and the xic.

Thanks guys :)

Any other ETF's that are Canadian TFSA friendly that you would recommend?

[Anonymous No.21441299]

>>21441193
as long as you're willing to actually trade in the US market, for a min you sounded like my friend who is completely hesitant on entering the US market because they don't know how to trade in US dollars even though i try to fucking spoon feed them.
they completely miss out on the tech rally in July as a result.

[Anonymous No.21441319]

>>21441142
*actually it doesn't look like TEC is hedged to CAD. XQQ and ZQQ is.

>>21441261
>CAD is back to pre-corona levels.
Then he could buy the non-hedged version.

[Anonymous No.21441333]

>>21438025
He loves selling the bottom

Also, the CEO has proven nothing but crashing the share price. CNBC shilling for him doesn't change that fact.

[Anonymous No.21441379]

>>21441124
What the fuck is this company?

[Anonymous No.21441404]

>>21441289
There is also HAC which goes up along straight line. HAC switches between a bunch of assets depending on the season, anything from gold, treasuries to tech.

Look at ETF fees and fine print and so on.

[Anonymous No.21441501]

>>21440856
Yes. Some people call it zen other people call it chad cerebration. Anyway, it's fucking great.

[Anonymous No.21441605]

>>21436008
eh I do this with TQQQ and FNGU when they dip and dont give a fuck because the worst that can happen is being stuck with TQQQ or FNGU until it goes back up.

[Anonymous No.21441680]

>>21436376
I have APHA too, I fucked up though and bought it a couple days after it dumped from the low 6s and got in at 4.85$ expecting a reversal, I went in big and bought 2000 shares 25% of my folio.

[Anonymous No.21441747]

>>21438414
depends. there is this 30 day rule thing, you can search "30 day stock loss". but basically if you had a stock and sell then buy again in 30 days you can't write off the loss. so less than 30 days would be $600 profit tax 31+days $300 profit tax

[Anonymous No.21441832]

>>21441289
Just for reference, here's the relative performance of ZQQ, TEC, HQU and HXU, since the bottom (March 23rd).

[Anonymous No.21441881]

>>21441379
Looks legit. Sell your house and your car and go all in

[Anonymous No.21441897]

>>21441299
But like I said they didn't have to trade in US dollars to get gains from the rally. Look at the chart:
>>21441832

They could have bought HQU. Even TSX 60 HXU outperformed non-leveraged ZQQ (NASDAQ) and TEC.

[Anonymous No.21442348]

>>21441897
>They could have bought HQU. Even TSX 60 HXU outperformed non-leveraged ZQQ (NASDAQ) and TEC.
HQU looks pretty nice, didn't know we had an ETF like that. I might liquidate my RioCan stock and move it to that eventually if Canadian REITs go back to crab mode.
HXU is meh though, might as well buy Shopify directly instead of getting exposed to the rest of the shitty TSE market.

[Anonymous No.21442457]

Should I go with BMO Investoronline or Questrade? I bank with BMO.

[Anonymous No.21442570]

>>21442457
isn't BMO's comissions relatively cheap anyways unless you want to trade small amounts a lot of times? If i'm not mistaken, you can probably do *some* options and hassle-free norbert's gambit (buy Canada stock, sell on US) online yourself so no need to call your broker? I'm with scotiabank and i was planning to eventually open a trading account with BMO (or TD) for those 2 reasons.
ALso, I'd go with BMO purely so you can transfer your funds instantly.

[Anonymous No.21442593]

>>21438745
It was shilled here for two days straight you insufferable faggot. Dont be a cunt just because you didnt see it or didnt listen

[Anonymous No.21442597]

>>21442457
>>21442570
i should mention i meant *some* options obviously in the context of a TFSA. ScotiaBank doesn't let me do anything with options with a TFSA.

[Anonymous No.21442670]

Guys, should I bet against Donald Trump (10000% ROI potential)?

[Anonymous No.21442909]

MARKET IS OPEN

MARKET IS OPEN

MARKET IS OPEN

MARKET IS OPEN

MARKET IS OPEN

MARKET IS OPEN

[Anonymous No.21442980]

>>21442593
I was here all week, I didn't notice it. Just so you know, if one person says something retarded like "MISSED TSLA? MISSED NVAX???? CVAC IS YOUR LAST CHANGE!!!!!" that may be shilling but only an absolute retard would pay any attention to it, so fuck you and fuck your mother if she hasn't killed herself out of shame from giving birth to you yet.

[Anonymous No.21442983]

Do we love dividend funds now?

[Anonymous No.21443090]

>>21442983
my friendship ended with dividends when I realized how much money I could make selling options

[Anonymous No.21443143]

I just got started with coinbase, I don't really know much about stocks or cryptocurrencies i just want some gibs. Any semi-safe investment i can do? make a little bit of profit? im a neet with about 1000$

[Anonymous No.21443168]

>>21443090

All right fine. Since I'm retarded should I just go on youtube and look up "covered calls" or something since everyone keeps talkign about that?

[Anonymous No.21443202]

>>21440752
That ETF has a lot of exposure to financials so it might not be a good idea even over 5+ years. We may be in a low interest rate environment for the foreseeable future (likely even negative) and that is not good for banks. Look at a historical chart of EU financials, japan. They have not done well off of the low interest rate era. See the Euro Stoxx bank index in particular, they haven't even returned to half of 2008 levels.

[Anonymous No.21443205]

I've agreed to fuck this girl no condom, and bust a nut in her on monday. Is 3 days and 16 hours of nofap enough to build a big load?

[Anonymous No.21443224]

>>21442980
i literally informed /smg/ it was going live on friday, another anon on the day of the IPO explained why it was a good investment, you just didn't pay attention

[Anonymous No.21443295]

>>21443168
It's a very simple concept so a youtube search should be fine
The main advantage in selling options is that YOU control the casino. There's an endless supply of retards praying for moonshots glad to buy your calls and puts that have a 99% chance of expiring worthless. You're fighting retards instead of banks. It's a much easier fight to win.

[Anonymous No.21443391]

>>21435612
>wears a mask while trading
kek these are parodies of people

[Anonymous No.21443395]

>>21443202
I was a bit worried about that as well. But it does give a 3.5ish% dividend and has a historic yearly growth of 5-6 percent.

When you include the dividend into the yearly growth that's almost 10 percent year after year since its inception.

Isn't that decent?

[Anonymous No.21443409]

Do any of you all worry about your friends and family not investing their money? So many people I care about aren't investing their meager savings and just put 2-5% of their pay into retirement. "BUT I DON'T WANT TO LOSE ALL OF MY MONEY, THERE'S PROBABLY A CRASH SOON LOL IDK"

I try to convince them they need X amount of money by the time they retire and they just hand wave it. I tell them if they have a 401K they are already invested. I tell them they are constantly losing money to inflation. I tell them pensions/social security will mean shit when you're older and my entire generation is just renting houses and not even saving towards their own house, and they have no idea what they'll do when they are too old to keep working and paying rent until they die.

[Anonymous No.21443440]

>>21443168
>>21443090
-_-;
theres always guys who come into /smg/ touting covered calls then after 6ish months they lose all they money

its happened like 10 times, the last one was trip fag

dont lose all money

[Anonymous No.21443463]

GOOD LORD

CHAINLINK KNOCKING ON $20

[Anonymous No.21443575]

>>21443409
Yes, I worry. They make no effort. I think they expect I'll pay for them.

I haven't spent my life making all the sacrifices I have though... just to hand everything over to others in the end...

[Anonymous No.21443611]

Who bought SHLL before it mooned

[Anonymous No.21443662]

>>21431855
thats what autistic perverts do

[Anonymous No.21443685]

>>21443440

I'm okay with slow and steady. I like dividends. But some people were touting covered calls as perfectly safe "if you do it correctly, it's basically impossible to lose money"

I'm not smart or ballsy enough to take risks, so is it worth it for me to look into covered calls?

[Anonymous No.21443733]

>>21431855
have you seen real humans and their habits?

[Anonymous No.21443754]

>>21433764
Sounds legit lemme bump up my margin.

[Anonymous No.21443759]

>>21443685
If anyone says something is “impossible to lose money” they are absolutely full of shit. Covered calls are relatively safe if you do them right but the safer you play them the more you’re lowering your upside. At that point it’s barely worth it.

[Anonymous No.21443760]

>>21443409
To be fair its only been because of Bernanke money printing that the average person literally gets left behind not throwing their cash into speculative investments.

[Anonymous No.21443794]

NEW!!!!

>>21443758

>>21443758

>>21443758

>>21443758

omfg NEWWW

>>21443758

[Anonymous No.21443877]

>>21443295
>fighting retards instead of banks

What if you are also retarded?

[Anonymous No.21444443]

>>21443794
literally kill yourself

[Anonymous No.21444495]

>>21444443
holy shit off by one wtf lol >>>21444444

[Anonymous No.21444582]

>>21431700
>OP

[Anonymous No.21444756]

>>21443143

You're probably priced out of Link at this point.

Orchid, Algorand (gonna drop a bit early next month), maybe stick $50 in XRP in case they moon unexpectedly.

Sign up for the "free crypto" courses.

[Anonymous No.21444772]

>>21431787
>$2000 investment gets you 1 free ice cream cone each week for the rest of your life
Not sure I'm going to make it.

[Anonymous No.21444800]

>>21443205

Take lecithin and pygeum. Also, eat some celery.

[Anonymous No.21444818]

>>21442980
>”nobody shilled it!”
>well actually someone shilled it for two straight says every thread along with other IPOs and various people discussed it leading up to listing
>”i didnt notice it”
>”and anyways i bet it was retarded shilling and its not my fault i didnt take it seriously and didnt do my own research”
jesus christ dude, i missed it too but im not this butthurt. you are such a fucking faggot. get out of this general