/pmg/ - Precious Metals General:

[Anonymous No.21304394]

Die For Metal Edition

>Bullion dealers
https://apmex.com/

Previous thread: >>21295687
https://jmbullion.com/
https://sdbullion.com/
https://boldpreciousmetals.com/
https://bgasc.com/
https://providentmetals.com/
https://www.moneymetals.com/
https://monumentmetals.com/
https://goldenstatemint.com/
https://gainesvillecoins.com/
https://silvertowne.com/
https://schiffgold.com/
https://goldsilver.com/
https://pinehurstcoins.com/
https://sprottmoney.com/
https://goldsilver.be/en/
https://silvergoldbull.com/

>Constitutional/"junk" silver info
https://jmbullion.com/ultimate-guide-to-90-silver-coins/
https://kevinsworkbench.com/junksilverguide/
http://coinflation.com
http://coinapps.com/

>Compare
https://findbullionprices.com/

>News
https://kitco.com/
http://silverseek.com/
https://mining.com/

>Bullion tax info by state:
https://apmex.com/state-sales-tax-information

>Prospecting
https://youtube.com/watch?v=ZCL6FKQZyoM [Open]
https://usgs.gov/energy-and-minerals/mineral-resources-program/science
https://gov.bc.ca/assets/gov/farming-natural-resources-and-industry/mineral-exploration-mining/documents/mineral-titles/mt-faqs/faq_fmc.pdf
https://mndm.gov.on.ca/en/mines-and-minerals/mining-act
https://amazon.ca/Gold-Creeks-Ghostowns-British-Columbia/dp/088839988X

>Test
Nitric Acid
https://youtube.com/watch?v=3mg9YcAShTo [Open]
Magnets
https://youtube.com/watch?v=NgSXg-WOEVY [Open]
https://fakebullion.com/index.php/resources/fake-bullion-database
https://fakebullion.com/index.php/resources/identifying-fake-bullion

>YouTube/Podcasts
https://youtube.com/user/silverguru David Morgan
https://youtube.com/user/SprottGlobal
https://youtube.com/user/KitcoNews
https://youtube.com/channel/UCqmToXM7x2tD7-2rs0KvObA
https://youtube.com/user/GoldAndSilverClub1
https://youtube.com/user/whygoldandsilver
https://youtube.com/channel/UCED7G7CZfqdSV9zttlr1M_g
https://youtube.com/user/belangp

Additional /pmg/ resources and info--
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[Anonymous No.21304422]

When does it go back to 30, bro’s...

[Anonymous No.21304439]

>>21304394
How the fuck did the previous thread get linked at the top?
Sorry anons.

[Anonymous No.21304465]

Reminder: Keep buy, Don Sell, USD Dolla collapse incoming

[Anonymous No.21304474]

[Anonymous No.21304491]

>>21304422
Well after what happened yesterday... potentially within a day.

[Anonymous No.21304517]

>>21303634
>tfw NJ
>~200 ag
>1.8 au
>10k retirement
>started working 2 years ago
Neat. I wish upstate NY wasn't ruined by NYC. I'm starting my next improvement with moving and becoming hasgunz while stacking a little bit.

[Anonymous No.21304569]

>>21304422
We're almost at 26, so it could happen pretty fast.

[Anonymous No.21304576]

>>21304394
The [Open] button does not work. Is something wrong with 4channel? Also give good alt-metals

[Anonymous No.21304580]

Goldlet here, redpill me on this moose coin. Does this certificate card make it more trustworthy?

[Anonymous No.21304652]

ok for the guy looking for the coomer coins this is the perfect one.
Its Columbia and Germania holding hands.
You can cut the sexual tension with knife

[Anonymous No.21304654]

Anyone have a good list of the most speculative miners that I can shotgun?

[Anonymous No.21304660]

>>21304576
I was in a rush to make a general since the previous one got archived quickly.
>>21304517
Thanks anon.

[Anonymous No.21304680]

>>21304652
>holding hands
Why do you lie like this

[Anonymous No.21304689]

>>21304580
From what I've found, maples are top notch and are difficult if not impossible to counterfeit well. If the premium on your moose is really low, sure. Otherwise I probably would stick with maples

[Anonymous No.21304696]

Am I going to make it ._.?

[Anonymous No.21304705]

>>21304680
is that not hand holding?
I am confused

[Anonymous No.21304715]

>>21304652

[Anonymous No.21304731]

>>21304705
They are touching fingers at best

[Anonymous No.21304765]

>>21304696
No, I'm afraid not. At this point I'd say 10oz of gold and 1200oz of silver is an absolute minimum. I'm sorry, Anon.

[Anonymous No.21304772]

>>21304696
Very nice anon. Wagmi. Are you buying the dip?

[Anonymous No.21304806]

>>21304715
I love how britannia is all tsun with the attitude while columbia is walking hand in hand

[Anonymous No.21304851]

>>21304654

Tinka Resources. Trading at the same level as it was in February even though it has 60 million ounces of open-pittable silver and further silver exploration potential in the Colqui Silver Zone. People are still treating it like a zinc stock because it has some of the world's best zinc deposits (7 billion pounds). Although zinc is also gaining momentum. Management team is good, and it's in a safe mining district (central Peru). When silver crashed yesterday, it held firm. Risk is all to the upside.

[Anonymous No.21304886]

>>21304765
I'm working on it. ._. I have a second 1oz gold coin in shipment and some bars of silver.

>>21304772
Thanks! I bought some paper stocks today. I'm looking at miners but those seem really risky. Thoughts?

[Anonymous No.21304917]

Pls use some silver to make it rain.

[Anonymous No.21304943]

Building on my analysis about Sweden and Scandinavia in the previous thread, I wonder what the endgame of the Riksbank is.

QRD:

>every swede is levered up to the ears with studio apartments in Stockholm going for almost 10x the average salary
>lots of unsecured debt as bankruptcy for individuals does not exist here and the Government has the capacity to force, without involvement of the courts, companies to garnish wages and seize assets - loans are mostly secured by the Government's guns here
>quality of life is still stellar and we have a pretty strong domestic industry in both manufacturing and services (extremely high-tech)
>Riksbank (our central bank) have been pioneering with negative interest rates and massive QE since 2013. they recently raised rates to 0% but have printed a shitton of money in stimulus in response to the coronavirus crisis and have started buying corporate bonds en-masse
>low central government debt which has been on a steady decline for the past couple years despite a socialist government
>120 tons in gold reserves
>Central bank pushing heavily for digital currency seeing as 97%+ of all transactions here are done digitally, cash is mostly used by pensioners and in the black market

Not really sure how things will play out here if fiat goes to zero. I'm not convinced Stefan Ingves (Riksbank governor) is going to allow hyperinflation and maybe they might raise rates and make everyone default like they did in the 90's during our last debt crisis. Anyone from Sweden or elsewhere that might have some thoughts on this?

I'm hoping for hyperinflation so my shitty debts from my days of being an irresponsible youth will finally be cleared out, but I don't know if I can bet on it.

[Anonymous No.21304968]

>>21304851
Whats your price target anon

[Anonymous No.21304988]

>>21304943

addendum: my point is that our situation is somewhat unique seeing as the debt loads here are not from government but on private individuals, and I'm not sure the central bank is willing to monetise private debts like the Fed, ECB, or the BoE might do.

[Anonymous No.21304991]

>>21304806
>Deliver to me your pussy
>Britannia: B-But that's wrong!
>Columbia: oPeN fOr BuSiNeSs~!

[Anonymous No.21305019]

>>21304943
Sweden is part of the West since WW2 betrayal.

[Heavyrotation No.21305072]

>>21304394
Great album!

[Anonymous No.21305124]

>>21305019

Which betrayal are you referring to? You mean when we allowed Nazi troop transports through Sweden?

[Anonymous No.21305170]

>>21304968

I consider fair value at the current price of silver to be $1. So I'm expecting it to go 5x. Drilling, which begins later this month, may cause me to increase my evaluation

[Anonymous No.21305193]

>>21304886
>paper stocks
I'm positioning myself heavier into physical. I think it will only get harder to stack as time goes on. I am personally repositioning and cost averaging the miners. If I had nothing, I would definitely consider spreading out. My favorite ETF is SIL right now, my favorite stocks are WPM and NEM. I think GOLD AG and PAAS might be a good value grabs right now. I'm not really good at picking miners, so I trust the ETFs, talking heads, pan man/anon, and price action.

[Anonymous No.21305205]

>>21304943
Also, the central government doesn't have much debt... though it's still too high... because those responsible for the actual payment and delivery of central government promises are the local governments.

[Anonymous No.21305228]

>>21304943
>cashless society
what if their internet goes down? they're a prime cyberwarfare target

[Anonymous No.21305273]

>>21305170
Thats not exactly super bullish. Miners did a 17x on average last cycle so this would need to be 25x to be an outperformer

[Anonymous No.21305313]

>>21305124
The one in which Europeans turned their backs on Uncle Adolf and teamed up with the JEW-communists instead.... and you are seeing the disastrous consequences of this betrayal all across the west.

[Anonymous No.21305411]

>>21305193
What are you buying for physicals? I still have my last order en route (they were pre-orders). I was hoping the drop yesterday would affect the retail price more, I'm a bit of a hesitant bull. That's why I was looking at stocks, but I don't really know when I would sell is the problem. Maybe ride the wave up to the election and drop them before the results? Or long term holds?

[Anonymous No.21305428]

>>21305228
or am I just getting old?

[Anonymous No.21305434]

Everyone should own at least 1 Chad coin.

[Anonymous No.21305471]

>>21305434
What is the obsession with skulls on silver?

[Anonymous No.21305472]

>>21305428
Even more potential for fraud, but you're thinking outside of the box boomer.

[Anonymous No.21305483]

>>21305205

I looked into this and while local government debt is big it's not near the scale as in other countries. However, I should admit that finding reliable statistics on this is rather difficult and the statistics agency isn't helping despite their comprehensive coverage on other things. From what I've seen it's roughly at 15% of GDP, which is still incredibly low compared to other countries.

>>21305313

We were essentially neutral during WW2 anon. Sold shit to the allies and allowed Nazi troop transports through our country. It's only after Olof Palme we started turning into a properly Western country. I don't like Palme at all but I can't help but respect his balls when he stood up to both the U.S. and the U.S.S.R.

[Anonymous No.21305516]

>>21305471
Mining is deadly.

[Anonymous No.21305526]

>>21305411
pre decimal "junk" mostly buy picked up some Krugerrands in the "dip". Supplies are getting kind of low and sell out fast here lately and private sellers mostly want absurd prices. I dont think american sells were as generous because the drop meant I paid close to $10aud an oz less than i would have the day before.

[Anonymous No.21305558]

>>21305434
those egyptian coins are fucking sick, can't find them anywhere in aus and don't want to pay import tax so don't have any. personally the 1/4 is my favourite. looks like it was ripped straight out of a pyramid

[Anonymous No.21305566]

>>21304580
certificates mean nothing, they are the easiest thing to fake, and often prevent people from opening the package to actually test the metal (IE this is why many coins/bars that come in blister packs are disproportionately faked)

Always buy the lowest premium 999% or better purity silver or gold coin, cant go wrong that way.

[Anonymous No.21305590]

>Took some new pics of my cyberstack last night

[Anonymous No.21305614]

>>21305411
>I don't really know when I would sell
My target is GDX/J to Spot a bit under the 2011 high. I'll sell half. It should likely be around a 75% to 100% gain at that point. I'll sell enough to buy another ounce or two of gold and then call it a day on this play. I'll hold and likely switch for more traditional securities or investments.

[Anonymous No.21305641]

>>21305228

We invest a lot in digital infrastructure security. Even if the Russkies invaded us I honestly think the government would keep the Internet online and running somehow.

[Anonymous No.21305671]

>>21305273

Observe that I said 5x "at the current price of silver."

[Anonymous No.21305676]

[Anonymous No.21305683]

We are gonna make it

[Anonymous No.21305711]

>>21305411
>What are you buying for physicals
I'm cost averaging, but I'm poor and lm a bit retarded so I get stuff that my magpie brain approves. I don't mind being down... Probably about 10-15oz at this point because I picked pretty shit.

[Anonymous No.21305725]

>>21305428
they dont have those anymore, cards wont go through with out internet connections, outside of MURICA, you need the use the chip function as well.

[Anonymous No.21305746]

>>21305614
That seems reasonable. What do you think of the people saying they are going to moon 5-6x or similar giant gains?

[Anonymous No.21305754]

>>21305483
And now look at the state of your nation

[Anonymous No.21305768]

>>21305434
>>21305471
Chad 10oz silver skull checking in
memento mori

[Anonymous No.21305832]

>>21305754

The SJWness and mass immigration are mostly localised to a tiny minority for the former, and tiny ghettos for the latter. It's worse off today than it was before that is for sure, but it's nowhere near what foreign media says it is.

t. live outside of Malmö, the so-called rape capital of Europe

[Anonymous No.21305873]

>>21305483
15% is not the real story. I'm not going to tell it to you either. A lot of people look favorably on the Swedish but I know many that are self haters.

Your 'truth' of the matter about Swedish activities are more of a lie by massive omission and misrepresentation. May you enjoy your neutrality.

[Anonymous No.21305879]

>>21305313
>making the world safe for degeneracy and wholesale looting of the wealth of the people

[Anonymous No.21305928]

>>21305746
I think that's good for them, but I'll stick to what I know. I think it's possible for majors too, but I also think there are other problems and changes happening if we have 5x nominal gains.

[Anonymous No.21305975]

>>21305832
You are right. Stay where you are.

[Anonymous No.21306001]

>>21305832
There should be 0% non-Europeans in the whole of Europa and N.America. Im just saying if Hitler would have won the war things would have turned out much better for the whole world.


Also if pic related would have lived a few more years there would not have been war with Poland which means France and England would have stayed out of it

[Anonymous No.21306003]

>>21305873

Do tell me what the local government debt-to-GBP ratio is then. I've gotten these figures from Kommuninvest which is the issuing authority for local government bonds.

[Anonymous No.21306045]

>In order to effect change, everyone needs to alter their perspective of COMEX

1. Substitute any other <thing> for gold, silver, etc. For this example we'll use shoes.
2. There are tons of shoe distributors worldwide- imagine COMEX distributes shoes.
3. Also imagine they are a publicly-traded company.
4. Their website is a huge hit, they sell shoes cheaper than anyone else.
4. For <insert reason>, they slip on delivery commitments and upset customers.
5. Word gets out and their share price takes a hit to near $0.
6. A year later, they are forced to close shop and file for bankruptcy.

In relative terms, none of the above has anything to do with the shoe industry as a whole. Other distributors are kicking ass and doing well. Consumers aren't going to shop online or walk into a store and think about how COMEX screwed them. COMEX becomes a thing of the past, and all consumers want is to find the next best deal.

I hate to go against the grain and mess with your realities, but when COMEX falls, this is exactly what is going to happen. You can't urge them to fall on one hand, but still rely on their price list on the other. The sooner you start to use other pricing tools, such as https://findbullionprices.com/closest-to-spot ... the sooner spot price becomes irrelevant.

Just forget about COMEX spot prices altogether. They fooled you into believing their prices represent the worldwide valuation of metals. It should be evident today that is not the case, maybe in the past... who knows... who cares. Look forward, move ahead, break the conditioning. Let COMEX become dust.

tldr; Don't beg for "the price" to go up. It already is going up, regardless of what COMEX has to say about it. As far as COMEX is concerned, pray their prices come crashing down as each dollar represents one tear of desperation and one inch closer to absolute BUST. It's weeks, not years away.

t. friendly public service announcement

[Anonymous No.21306089]

Why are the miners growing more slowly than Silver currently, especially SILJ? Are people still worried there will be a second crash, or is it normal to be a bit delayed?

[Anonymous No.21306108]

>>21306001
shut up goy.

[Anonymous No.21306189]

>>21306089
miners always lag behind prices

Buy the dip ™

[Anonymous No.21306200]

>>21306089
Might have to do with profitability in this environment? You can't profit from the high prices if you are closed down and unable to dig it up. Q2 was bad for miners earnings as many were shut down and not many are back to 100%. Maybe the fear of a second shutdown is hanging over Q3 earnings?

[Anonymous No.21306206]

>>21304943
>Gold $8150 SEK/oz in Dec 2013
>Gold $17000 SEK/oz now

Looks like Sweden is doing exactly the same as every other western country.

[Anonymous No.21306250]

>>21306089

It's like saying "why did silver ever get to a GSR of 1:125." It's a historical anomaly which is there for you, as a value-investor, to take advantage of. Miners should be 3x simply to catch up to the historic PM:Miner ratio, and then they will offer 3x leverage to the PMs as this bull market continues. So don't delay, simply buy them and hold your nerve.

If I were to speculate as to why the miners haven't moved, my answer would be that PMs have only been going up so far because of the easing of manipulation on the COMEX, and that the general public is not investing in them yet. And this is also reflected in the miners. In other words, we are still in the stealth, or accumulation phase. But once Q3 earnings come out, it will be impossible for people to ignore them. People will began to ask, "Why would you buy a worthless inflated tech stock instead of a gold or silver miner with ridiculously good earnings and an enormous dividend."

[Anonymous No.21306300]

>>21305928
I'm afraid of a repeat of 2011-12 where the feared hyper-inflation never happened. I'm bullish on metals, but not to the point of believing we are going to be debased to the point of no longer being the world currency. I could be wrong, and I'm hedged for it anyways, and it's certainly more possible than it was from 2008..but...yeah...I still think we're a strong country in the long run.

[Anonymous No.21306312]

What day in September are the comex deliveries supposed to happen?

[Anonymous No.21306404]

>>21306206

Absolutely, I'm not denying that we've been pursuing an inflationary monetary policy and a pseudo-monetisation of government debt. However, my point is that I'm not sure how a potential fiat collapse would play out here and what the Riksbank will do in response. Our governor has admitted several times that he considers gold to be the "only kind of money that is not a liability" (literal quote), which is in stark contrast to how Bernanke considers gold to be an "historical oddity".

Perhaps we would be among the first countries in the world to switch over to a gold standard? I'd assume the Netherlands and Germany would join us in a potential gold-backed monetary concordat.

[Anonymous No.21306407]

I just bought my first investment ever: 13 shares of GDXJ. I'm going to buy SILJ next. It feels really weird. It's like I lost a bunch of money even though it'll be worth it later.

[Anonymous No.21306484]

>>21306300
absolutely, but the thing I think being overlooked right now is how easy, profitable, and generally good swapping back to a gold/silver standard would be economically.

Wipe out the debt and interest payments, peoples money is worth more the longer they hold it, interest rates can rise to better levels, ect ect

For the bulk of people its a great thing, for a small group of really rich people making bank off money printing, it means they will make significantly less (although still be in positions to make a lot, so fuck them, lucky they dont get tarred and feathered)

it has to happen at some point 100%, the only question is when

[Anonymous No.21306494]

>>21306300
The problem is we are far worse off debt wise than we were last crisis. Debt to GDP has ballooned and we can't service the debt above zero percent rates and we can't keep the bubble inflated without going to negative real rates. We kind of did that with QE, but YCC is a whole other animal. It's unlimited QE. It's coming. It can't be a repeat, because there is no where else to go at this point.

[Anonymous No.21306497]

Was this a dead cat bounce or are we actually going back up?

[Anonymous No.21306507]

>>21306407

this feeling goes away

[Anonymous No.21306547]

>>21304943
>socialist government
If they aren't doing socialist things, then they aren't socialist. They're social democrat at most.

[Anonymous No.21306581]

>>21306494
So basically inflate the debt away or bust?

[Anonymous No.21306586]

>>21304943
>they did in the 90's during our last debt crisis
It's fucking stupid we have these in the first place.
Why does central banking exist?

[Heavyrotation No.21306609]

WTF just happened with Freegold Ventures?

[Anonymous No.21306611]

>>21306404

Another kino pic of our Riksbank Governor and some bars from the gold reserves.

As I said in the previous thread, I seriously think we might be going onto a gold standard relatively soon and it would be a good place to live when it happens. Private debt gets wiped out as >>21306484 said and we get a soft landing instead of hyperinflating the currency into nothing.

[Anonymous No.21306626]

Talked to my local dealer. He told me people buy and sell gold, but he ran out of silver. It's all gone. Nothing left.
The funniest thing is he ran out on Monday, so just before the price crashed lmao

Take that as you wish.

[Anonymous No.21306627]

>>21306586
Communism

[Anonymous No.21306629]

>>21305313
lmao fuck off neetsoc loser
Hitler's economy was a keynesian shithole with food rationing even before the war.

[Anonymous No.21306641]

mercbros....

[Anonymous No.21306673]

>>21306611
What country are you from?

[Anonymous No.21306713]

>>21306001
>if only we has mass killed millions of people, things would have been better
I hate the current system but I'm pretty glad you faggots didn't win.

[Anonymous No.21306714]

>>21306626
At least he ran out, my dealer straight up said he's not selling silver anymore. He has it, at home in his safe, but he refuses to sell any of it. Based, but also scary.

[Anonymous No.21306720]

>>21306629
>food rationing even before the war.
>Implying the dystopian Jew nightmare of the Weimar Republic causing men and women to sell their holes for bread was better.
>implying they didn’t value labor and back their currency by it
>implying that what we have now is any better
>implying you are not a complete Jew.
>implying

[Anonymous No.21306775]

>>21306611
I lived my whole life without debt. Imagine if they cancel all of it and I end up killing myself for not taking a huge mortgage.

[Anonymous No.21306783]

>>21306581
Exactly. It's the same thing we did during/after WWII, which was the last time debt to GDP was this high. The Fed probably sees this as the only way to keep things afloat...because it is. They might be successful with this in making the debt manageable again at reasonable rates, but the dollar is going to suffer. On a plus note, this is going to be happening around the world, so the dollar is not uniquely fucked. But it spells nothing but bullishness for PMs.

[Anonymous No.21306815]

>>21306775
No way would the bankers let people off their debts, any new system it would have to be transferred to so they can get their cut

[Anonymous No.21306863]

>>21306001

Hitler was a symptom of the diseased modern world, not the cure for it. As any Austrian will tell you, he was a radical leftist. First of all he was a fanatic Keynesian who hated gold and destroyed his country's economy, secondly he was a warmonger who caused the deaths of ten million Europeans. G. K. Chesterton, J. R. R. Tolkien, and Enoch Powell, all hated Hitler. Nazi Germany was a welfare-warfare state.

It is sad that so many people see aspects of modern society which are obviously wrong, like mass immigration and moral degeneracy, or Zionist influence on American politics, and are then led to fall down the rabbit-hole of neo-Nazi ideology. Racialism is a modern disease which arose from a combination of 18th-century justifications for slavery and 20th-century materialism. If you believe that there is a God, and that we have a soul and freedom of will, you can't possibly be a racialist. Ancient people did believe in these things, which is why racialism is a modern aberration. The rank hypocrisy of PM-investors who worship Hitler and his ideology is astonishing, when most of the great Austrians, from Mises and Rothbard to Peter Schiff and his father, were Jews, and when most of the Keynesians, from Keynes himself to Hitler and the fascists, were gentiles.

[Anonymous No.21306879]

>>21306673

Sweden.

[Anonymous No.21306905]

>>21306629
Keep telling yourself that bucko
>>21306713
>T. Non-European

[Anonymous No.21306950]

>>21306720
>>Implying the dystopian Jew nightmare of the Weimar Republic causing men and women to sell their holes for bread was better.
It wasn't. But Hitler's economy was barely any better.
I mean the Nazi economy wasn't anything different from the shit that goes on all around the world today anon, after an inflationary collapse brought on by central bank, the government cuts spending, raises interest rates etc to get the economy back on sound footing(which is what happened in the first few years of nazi germany) then the state starts inflating the money supply and spending money on a fuckload of dumb shit causing more inflation(The later years of nazi germany before the war).
There was nothing magically about the nazi economy which makes it a good thing.
The Nazis would have confiscated our gold and silver and forced fiat currency on us.
Kill yourself retard.
inb4 "jew"

>>implying they didn’t value labor and back their currency by it
>labor backed currency
lmao economic illiterate commies get the bullet

[Anonymous No.21306992]

>>21306863
Based post that stays true to /pmg/.
Austrian economics is true economics.
Nazi faggots are 12 year old brainlets.

[Anonymous No.21307004]

IV crush making options cheap... calls or puts?

[Anonymous No.21307029]

>>21306905
>I would love to live in a shitty authoritarian police state where I'm forced to fight wars all the time and have no freedom
lmao right-commies are just as bad as left.

[Anonymous No.21307078]

>>21304580
>Goldlet here, redpill me on this moose coin. Does this certificate card make it more trustworthy?
The card really means nothing. The local pawn shops will just slash it open in order to test the metal if you try and sell it to them.

Pic related is what makes it trustworthy.

[Anonymous No.21307135]

>>21306950
>lmao economic illiterate commies get the bullet
Nigger labor is the value of everything. Gold and silver express it well but it still takes a man time and energy to dig it out of the ground which gives it its value.
>commy
This is literally the Catholic Churches teaching on what gives money value. Even if that kike Marx got it right he also created a satanic materialistic hell ideology.

[Anonymous No.21307142]

>>21306626
>>21306714
The LCS that I frequent has a lot of gold and silver, but someone bought their platinum bars.

[Anonymous No.21307163]

Take the political shit to /pol/ this is pmg only frens here

[Anonymous No.21307192]

>>21306950
Antifa/BLM types and Neo-Nazis are cut from the same cloth. They want an authoritarian that doles out socialism to their particular tribe. It's all cancer.

[Anonymous No.21307265]

>>21307029
>I would love to live in a shitty authoritarian police state

Pretty much every country today pal

[Anonymous No.21307268]

>>21307163
/biz/ and /pol/ are pretty much one and the same these days. You can't separate them.

[Anonymous No.21307271]

>>21307192
>implying there is not socialism for kikes and Corporations all part of the same (((tribe)))

[Anonymous No.21307279]

>>21307135
>Nigger labor is the value of everything.

[Heavyrotation No.21307294]

>>21306863
I believe that Hitler was a Zionist plant (along with Stalin) to carry out the Exodus that was "needed" per T. Herzl (Judenstaadt). The "strongest" Jews in Europe were to go to Palestine (The camps were one of the ways that the strongest Jews were selected or remained at the filthy camps to work).

[Anonymous No.21307318]

>>21307192
and falling in to the capitalism vs marxism/socialism trap makes you no better.
Gold and Silver were money, gods money, long before these modern systems were created and will be long after they are dust.
both capitalism and communism are garbage

[Anonymous No.21307321]

>>21307135
>Nigger labor is the value of everything.
LMAO Imagine actually believing in the labor theory of value.
You people truly are commies holy shit.

>Gold and silver express it well
Yet Hitler hated them and forced inflationary fiat on people.

>Even if that kike Marx got it right
He didn't you dumb commie shitstain. Why are you in /pmg/ of all places if you believe in the debunked labor theory of value.
Value is subjective. Things are produced for consumers based on their subjective demands, not the amount of labor that goes into something.

[Anonymous No.21307330]

>>21307271
Oh there is, no argument here at all. Socialism needs to be stomped out because it grossly distorts price discovery and ends up fucking the monetary system, imo.

[Anonymous No.21307341]

[Anonymous No.21307371]

>>21307192

[Anonymous No.21307392]

>>21306626
that is how its going here too, I have multiple LCS that let me know every single time someone comes in to sell gold/silver.

Gold will buy and sell, they always have something, and I have a couple days to grab a specific piece if I want it.

Silver is always sold out, if I dont call them 5-10 minutes after they get some stock it, they are sold the fuck out, even if someone just dumped 1000oz on them, people call to reserve it and buy it ASAP.

[Anonymous No.21307427]

>>21307321
>No man, liek if you put TONS of labor into a widget that nobody gives fucks about, it still has value!

[Anonymous No.21307449]

>>21307192
>Antifa/BLM types and Neo-Nazis are cut from the same cloth. They want an authoritarian that doles out socialism to their particular tribe. It's all cancer.
Truth.

>>21307271
You people are like NPCs repeating the same nonsense /pol/ lines over and over.

>>21307318
>both capitalism and communism are garbage
No, capitalism, ie. free markets are a great thing and anyone who fights against them is an enemy combatant as far as I am concerned.

[Anonymous No.21307459]

when did /pmg/ get so full of niggers?

[Anonymous No.21307463]

>>21307341
aesthetic

[Anonymous No.21307465]

>>21306713
you're an actual moron anon, keep believing the good goy story

[Anonymous No.21307467]

>>21306581
>>21306783
Pic related is our real rates over time. You see that Gold and silver went up last crisis as real rates dropped mildly negative and then plummeted as the Fed was starting to raise rates again, but when we got to 3% nominal (and about zero real), the market crashed and they started dropping again. Look at the WWII and post WWII years. That's what we need to get to or near that in order to deal swiftly with the debt. Gold wasn't even traded freely in dollars at the time so we don't know what it would do to dollars, but it did ultimately culminate in silver coming out of coinage. In the 70s during stagflation with moderate negative rates, gold went from from $100 to over $800.

[Anonymous No.21307503]

>>21307449
You

>pic related

[Anonymous No.21307521]

>>21307465
This is what makes you people and commies so fucking retarded.
You think anyone who goes against your ideology must be brainwashed by the jews or something.
I hate Israel but I also have right-commie faggots like yourself.

[Anonymous No.21307552]

>>21307371
Did a high-schooler make this shit?

[Anonymous No.21307562]

>>21307503
>you're a jeeeeewww and I have no argument
Like clockwork.

[Anonymous No.21307574]

>>21307467
Hemke talks a lot about the real rates in
this new interview

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QHrNGmxLCpo

[Anonymous No.21307587]

>>21307449
medieval peasants could buy and sell what they wanted and they were not capitalists.
capitalism is part of the current dialectic along with marxism.
That is how they control people they trap them in the dichotomy .
capitalism reduces people to atomized units and I do not support that in the least. It destroys people the same as communism

[Anonymous No.21307660]

>>21306863
sorry, could you point to the scrap of paper that trump drew the peoples car on? that would be great. also, point to all the freeway's being built by trump... while in complete economic ruin and without any gold or silver. yeah, can you get that to me... that would be great.

[Anonymous No.21307661]

>>21307574
Let er rip

[Anonymous No.21307695]

>>21307265
A lot of countries, yes. You seem to think it's a good thing. Dumb neetsoc.
>>21307587
>capitalism is part of the current dialectic along with marxism.
Capitalism isn't even a real thing, it's just a marxist strawman argument.
I and most of the people in these threads advocate free markets, not "capitalism".
>capitalism reduces people to atomized units and I do not support that in the least.
No it doesn't, collectives are made up of individuals, before the state destroyed everything individuals formed their own collectives and communities in free markets.

[Anonymous No.21307755]

>>21307574
Yeah, Craig actually turned me onto this angle and I think it's right on. DXY is not as important as 10Y rate. 10Y spiked yesterday and it was a blood bath in metals (obviously other shenanegans going on). But I think this completely lines up with what has happened in the past to metals and explains why we are heading into a huge bull market for metals (and a seriously difficult time economically) simply because the Fed is pursuing a policy that will result in sharp negative real rates.

[Anonymous No.21307758]

>>21307695
If they were 100% ethnic European of course it would be a good thing, it keeps degenerates like you in check.

[Anonymous No.21307826]

>>21307758
>it keeps degenerates like you in check.
How much do you want to bet you are a virgin?

[Heavyrotation No.21307829]

>>21307755
With simultaneous (real) inflation. Stagflation.

[Anonymous No.21307846]

Guys I need help. I don't know what I'm doing. Should I buy these?

[Anonymous No.21307869]

>>21307758
>If they were 100% ethnic European of course it would be a good thing
oh I missed this lmao

You think an authoritarian shitlike like north korea or china would be great if everyone was white?
Are you not even human, are you an NPC?
Imagine wanting to cuck yourself out to the government and let them control you lmao

[Anonymous No.21307898]

just got some junk quarter and dime bags
anything interesting i should look for in there?

[Anonymous No.21307900]

>>21307163
Based fuck all this off topic /pol/ Garbo

[Anonymous No.21307921]

got $1200 worth of SLV puts, what time do we drill

[Anonymous No.21307926]

>>21307826
he's NatSoc

Doesn't like seeing his nation degrade into a 3rd world country

>How much do you want to bet you are a virgin?
Like clockwork Mr.Nose

[Anonymous No.21307933]

>>21307846
https://findbullionprices.com/

[Anonymous No.21307968]

>>21307846
Looks good can you afford it? If so then what are you waiting for

[Anonymous No.21307976]

Where on think or swim can i find the ratio or puts/calls?

[Anonymous No.21307997]

>>21307661
>Let er rip
tater chip

[Anonymous No.21308001]

>>21306189
>>21306200
>>21306250
yeah makes sense, I bought anyways. But was just surprised that they didn't go back up from the crash yesterday as Silver itself.

[Anonymous No.21308015]

>>21307755
Craig does a nice job explaining that the Fed
itself has 2 policies right now.
1. Creating inflation above the normal 2%
2. Controlling the yield curve
This can only result in negative real rates and
the last time that happened gold went from $100
to $900 in 3 years.
The Fed is telling us to buy gold

[Anonymous No.21308032]

>>21307926
>Doesn't like seeing his nation degrade into a 3rd world country
Socialism in all it's forms turns nations into third world countries. Nazi germany was only "successful" due to it's brief economically free period at the start.
Also lmao imagine if the strasserists took over and condemned all the germans to extreme poverty with their actual socialism.

>Like clockwork Mr.Nose
Ahhh, yep you're a virgin with no argument. Calling someone a jew makes you instantly lose the argument.

[Anonymous No.21308078]

>>21307926
>>21307758
I just realized you samefagged yourself.
>he's NatSoc

What a fucking retard lol
You clearly aren't from /biz/
we have IDs here

[Anonymous No.21308099]

>>21307587
Citation fucking needed.

[Anonymous No.21308113]

>>21304943
>every swede is levered up to the ears with studio apartments in Stockholm going for almost 10x the average salary
just typical Svensson stupidity, your life is defined by the way you decorate your bostadsrätt... what else could we expect from the most shallow people on earth?
>lots of unsecured debt as bankruptcy for individuals does not exist here and the Government has the capacity to force, without involvement of the courts, companies to garnish wages and seize assets - loans are mostly secured by the Government's guns here
swede's are tax-cattle for their government (which they love, btw) and will do whatever they're told to, they hate freedom and they're afraid of standing out - of course you can't go bankrupt people could stare and what would God (the government) say?
>quality of life is still stellar and we have a pretty strong domestic industry in both manufacturing and services (extremely high-tech)
quality of life is great if you want to live in a 20 square meter 1 bedroom apartment for $500 000 + $500 monthly rent with 2500% debt to income ratio and spend your days going between your little shoe box and work while paying 85% in taxes, all of which goes to Africa and the Middle East and getting grenades thrown through your tiny window
also the industry is not high tech and the service industry is 99% bankrupt zombie-banks
>>Riksbank (our central bank) have been pioneering with negative interest rates and massive QE since 2013. they recently raised rates to 0% but have printed a shitton of money in stimulus in response to the coronavirus crisis and have started buying corporate bonds en-masse
yes, Sweden is a pioneer in retardation
>low central government debt which has been on a steady decline for the past couple years despite a socialist government
Swedens total debt, government + regional + municipal + private is worse than US government + regional + municipal + private debt

[Anonymous No.21308128]

>>21307463
Thank you fren, I was in the original thread where some anon's gf said his cyberrounds look like something you would pay an assassin with in a futuristic dystopia. Such a kino aesthetic I had to buy a tube

[Anonymous No.21308137]

>>21307695
> it's just a marxist strawman argument.
Yes I am aware of that is how the marx frames it but what other name do you give to the other half of the dialectic?
>No it doesn't, collectives are made up of individuals
This is really not the best thread to get in to this but your understanding of collectives and individuals is only applicable within liberal anthropology. Its a type of understanding of the human that came about during the enlightenment. Just because its popular now does not make it right.
A more classical understanding of people is more organic in nature. The person does not exist as an individual but as part of the whole. Think like a finger or an eye or any part of the human body.
You are both singular and plural and exist within a set of hierarchical relationships with every other person who makes up the whole nation.
and before you say that is just muh collectivism its not. Something like communism subsumes the person into the mass. Capitalism/liberalism/whatever you call the other half of the dialectic elevates the individual to supremacy .
This is neither of those.
recognition of gold and silver as money does not necessitate accepting liberalism in any form.

[Anonymous No.21308143]

>>21306497
take this with a grain of salt, but in recent weeks there was always tuesdays and thursdays chance of a little correction and all the other days where up. So I think there might be a little correction again tomorrow. But if so, don't worry too much. In the end the current prices seem to be ok, when you consider that Silver is supposed to go to at least 50$ at some point in the next 2 years max.

[Anonymous No.21308144]

>>21306407
Do you have any physical? Set yourself a goal for say, 10 ounces by the end August. You can do it!

[Anonymous No.21308203]

>>21304652
incel coomer

[Anonymous No.21308217]

>>21308099
Read Democracy the God that Failed by Hoppe
He is as libertarian as you can get but recognizes the most amount of economic freedom for the individual was found in traditional monarchies.

[Anonymous No.21308219]

>>21304943
>120 tons in gold reserves
every african warlord on the planet has more and almost all of that is in the UK, good luck getting it back
>Central bank pushing heavily for digital currency seeing as 97%+ of all transactions here are done digitally, cash is mostly used by pensioners and in the black market
yes, because Swedes are tax cattle and cattle should not be able to do commerce without direct government sanction (which is needed with digital payment systems)
>Not really sure how things will play out here if fiat goes to zero. I'm not convinced Stefan Ingves (Riksbank governor) is going to allow hyperinflation and maybe they might raise rates and make everyone default like they did in the 90's during our last debt crisis. Anyone from Sweden or elsewhere that might have some thoughts on this?
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yeoPug4eQrA

[Anonymous No.21308229]

>>21307846
>$39/eagle
>APMEX
Don't buy from APMEX. Very very rarely they have decent prices.

[Anonymous No.21308243]

Do I wait till the post Corona crash to buy 10+ ounces gold

[Anonymous No.21308245]

>>21307846
$39/oz is fairly high

[Anonymous No.21308286]

>>21308128
I dont think ive ever seen them here in australia.

[Anonymous No.21308295]

>>21304652
>no visible bulge in *her* tight fitting dress
this is not very liberally progressive

[Anonymous No.21308345]

>>21308217
based and redpilled

[Anonymous No.21308353]

>>21304394
25.50 for Peace dollar culls a good buy right now?

[Anonymous No.21308376]

>>21307933
>>21308229
>>21308245
Thanks, saved me $50.

[Anonymous No.21308384]

>>21308295
>implying women with a penis is not peak traditionalism
the left destroys everything in their attempt to weaponize ideas and people

[Anonymous No.21308455]

>>21308376
https://findbullionprices.com/p/2020-American-Silver-Eagle-1-oz-Coins/
Use this website. It's not the end all be all of aggregate price finding, but it does a pretty good job of finding decent prices.

[Anonymous No.21308489]

>>21308353
I prefer Morgans but you do you. Seems a fair price. But meh, culls.

[Anonymous No.21308525]

>>21308489
Morgans are 26.50. I am friends with the dealer outside of his job he picks me pretty good quality culls to be honest

[Anonymous No.21308541]

>>21308376
You're welcome anon.

[Anonymous No.21308556]

>>21308376
for the future you might want to consider old gold coins instead of the little bars. Depending on the coin size it might be a bit more expensive but the coins are made to be handled so you can play with them.
touching the actual coin instead of the plastic case makes it more real to me.

[Anonymous No.21308590]

>>21308015
What's the yield curve and what are "real rates"?

[Anonymous No.21308593]

>>21308137
>Yes I am aware of that is how the marx frames it but what other name do you give to the other half of the dialectic?
You ignore it and call things what they are, free markets vs government control.
>Just because its popular now does not make it right.
It is right, it was always right, collectives are just made up of individuals.
>The person does not exist as an individual but as part of the whole. Think like a finger or an eye or any part of the human body.
This is literally what cults make you believe. Even if these people were brainwashed to operate as part of a collective, they are still individuals.


>recognition of gold and silver as money does not necessitate accepting liberalism in any form.
It does though, the retarded ideologies you believe in would have gold and silver banned and replaced with fiat. Gold and Silver as money means no central bank. Free banking is an extremely Liberal stance.

[Anonymous No.21308637]

>>21305228
>>21305641
>We invest a lot in digital infrastructure security. Even if the Russkies invaded us I honestly think the government would keep the Internet online and running somehow.
literally every Swedish drivers license was leaked to Czech Republic by this "heavy investor in digital infrastructure security"
also Sweden gave drawings of it's military bases to China to be digitalised - amazing security
Sweden has probably had more IT and digital security related scandals than every other nation on earth combined

[Anonymous No.21308645]

>>21308217
What the fuck nigga? You're against Liberalism but telling others to read Hoppe?

[Anonymous No.21308654]

>>21305832
Enjoy getting raped

[Anonymous No.21308708]

>>21308286
Do you guys get good prices from the perth mint though? I like the kookaburra's but they have high premiums in the states usually

[Anonymous No.21308716]

Brooooooooooos wtf happened, silver is fluctuating all over the fucking place and now its back at 26? I thought we were going to be able to buy it sub 20 again reeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

[Anonymous No.21308743]

>>21308716
we are going to 30 today

[Anonymous No.21308762]

>>21308708
Bro I get the BEST prices from the Perth Mint

[Anonymous No.21308778]

>>21308708
Sweet fractional you got there, Wolfe.

[Anonymous No.21308784]

>>21308716
>>21308743
A small bull pennant has formed. We will pop up soon.

[Anonymous No.21308812]

>>21308716
Correction is over higher highs coming

[Anonymous No.21308831]

>>21307521

[Anonymous No.21308835]

>>21307846
No. Premiums on ASEs are insane, as are premiums on any amount of gold under 1oz. JM Bullion still has Asahi rounds for a much lower premium. Monarch precious metals still has some 1oz hand poured bars for a pretty low premium. If you really want sovereign government rounds, at least get some cheap British sovereigns or Australian kangaroos or something. And don’t bother buying fractional gold, stack silver until you’re at 100oz, then save up for an oz of good.

[Anonymous No.21308906]

> the retarded ideologies
you mean like traditional civilizations centered around a monarch and the church which not only existed before the enlightenment but made use of gold and silver and coin?
>>21308645
Yes because Hoppe is about as illiberal as one can get without abandoning the liberal framework.
Most people will not even admit that anything exists beyond the liberal understanding of reality.
Even communism and fascism are all children of the liberal enlightenment.

[Anonymous No.21308936]

>>21308784
Yup I read the chart similarly. $30 EOW lmao

[Anonymous No.21308938]

>>21308831
t. NPC

[Anonymous No.21308952]

>>21308556
Apart from a Nick ii 5 rouble, sovereigns are the only gold I have. Half sovereigns have a bit of a premium because of the reduced mintage and here in australia if you get the bullion grade coins they are pretty much on par with most gold. Just shy of a 1/4 oz and occasionally you can pic up cool ones like a shield back of a jubille head victoria for the same price or pick up a nUNC one for bullion price if you are lucky with a private sale and they dont know what they have. Gold krugs are another option too.

[Anonymous No.21308953]

>>21308936
Post proof

[Anonymous No.21309004]

>>21308906
>Yes because Hoppe is about as illiberal as one can get without abandoning the liberal framework.
Hoppe is Liberal, come on, lets not kid ourselves here.
Monarchists are retards and want to go back to when barbarism and poverty were rampant.

[Anonymous No.21309014]

>>21308952
>Gold krugs are another option too.
If I was buying an oz I would go krugs at least for some of them if only for their history

[Anonymous No.21309034]

>>21306863
Your views on Hitler notwithstanding, your belief that racialism is an aberration is dead wrong. People have always classified the different races (because that's what humans do), and modern human biodiversity research shows that the different human races are very much different in ways that are far beyond nearly skin deep.

Your beliefs on race are the result of decades of propaganda trying to being the globohomo to fruition.

[Anonymous No.21309088]

>>21308938
No just a Nahtzee

[Anonymous No.21309095]

>>21309034
>globohomo

[Anonymous No.21309125]

>>21308708
Sometimes but lately due to demand getting stuff is a bit of a chance on the day and often some dealers are selling them at the same price or very close and you get them sooner.

[Anonymous No.21309134]

>>21309088
So a brainlet bootlicker who easily falls for cults?

[Anonymous No.21309140]

>>21308590
The yield curve refers to yields over various maturity periods. The traditional rate that the Fed sets is the FOMC overnight rate. That is short term. It influences longer term rates, but doesn't set them. The Fed is going to begin to control how high longer term (like especially 10 Year) rate can go with "QE infinity" (YCC). QE said they would buy $X of bonds in order to put downward pressure on rates further down the yield curve. YCC is basically we will print as much money as is needed to buy all bonds that are necessary to keep the 10 Year Treasury from going above 0.X%. That's QE on steroids.

Real rates are the actual return on money in spending power. If Inflation is 2% and interest rates are 3%, then you get a nominal return of 3% and a REAL return of 1% as inflation ate away 2% of your 3% return. When the Fed allows inflation to rise to say 5% and keeps rates at 1%, then the net effect is a negative 4%. So your dollars are losing 4% of spending power each year even if you are earning a 1% return. Why hold a 10 Year Treasury that is losing X% every year when you can hold gold instead and not lose purchasing power? That's what central banks, hedge funds, pension funds, and little guys are asking themselves right now...except it's only those paying attention to this. Gold is about to go on a major bull run.

https://www.stlouisfed.org/on-the-economy/2020/august/what-yield-curve-control

[Anonymous No.21309149]

>>21309095
Do you even know what that means, smoothbrain?

[Anonymous No.21309162]

>>21309134
>23 posts

[Anonymous No.21309170]

I have 7.5 ounces of gold and only 150 ounce of silver. I prefer gold over silver and over time It’s actually been a better investment than the silver

[Anonymous No.21309179]

>>21309004
He is liberal in some respects and terribly illiberal in others and goes to great lengths to justify is illiberal tendencies.
The first part of his book and his justification for monarchy because of the economic freedom it provided is good reading because its very easy to make a jump from there to a radically different type of thinking.
>go back to when barbarism and poverty were rampant.
no I want to construct a civilization that is whole. Where everyone is not just a disjointed collection of individuals fighting for things and filling their days with mindless consumerism.
Capitalism as it is allows a group of small individuals to flood the air with propaganda and program the public to believe disgusting things and act in horrible ways.
This type of civilization can not continue

[Anonymous No.21309221]

>>21309149
yeah, it means you secretly love cocks

>>21309162
>heh well you made multiple posts in this thread replying to various people, don't you feel silly

[Anonymous No.21309267]

>>21309140
Haven’t bond yields sucked for years though, what’s taken everybody so long to realise gold is better than bonds

[Anonymous No.21309282]

>>21309179
You're actually dumb and probably haven't even read Hoppe and the other austrians since you think "capitalism" is a thing and don't understand rampant consumerism is a result of central banking and keynesianism.

[Anonymous No.21309304]

>>21309267
They have lived a life where the dollar = safety and gold = old boomer rocks and not really valuable
it takes a great deal to break that type of conditioning

[Anonymous No.21309389]

>>21308778
Thanks, most of my gold is in fractionals since i was a poor college zoomer up until 2 months ago. Im onboarding at my new job rn but idk how long it will be until i actually get paid. I want a 1oz coin for my stack so bad

[Anonymous No.21309392]

>>21309304
When these pension funds hedge funds buy gold though are they just buying ETF’s or actually having physical allocated in vaults

[Anonymous No.21309433]

>>21309221
Is this your first day on 4chins? You sound like a newly-minted midwit.

[Anonymous No.21309461]

>>21309282
oh for fucks sake
The system in which we live now what name would you give it?
Fascism, Communism, Nazism, and our current system are all children of the enlightenment and are all garbage.
Fine you don't want to call it capitalism OK. I don't really care.

[Anonymous No.21309463]

>>21309304
It's been a mindfuck for me and im not even that old yet.

[Anonymous No.21309471]

>dipped while I was asleep AGAIN
Every fucking time

[Anonymous No.21309498]

>>21309014
There are 1/2 and 1/4oz too but i don't see them as much. I Seen lots of the 1 rand and 2 rand coins which iirc are the exact weight and size and purity of sovereigns and half sovereigns. Id really love a full box set of the rhodesian gold coins but they didnt make many so they are more a collectors thing than a stacking thing.

[Anonymous No.21309499]

>>21309392
probably an ETF no way are they going to take responsibility for storage of all that gold

[Anonymous No.21309523]

>>21308654
Get some pmags fren

[Anonymous No.21309551]

>>21309267
Gold tracked pretty well with the last crisis when real rates went negative and then started to go back to zero as gold tracked downward and then back up as rates started to trend more negative. Obviously, there's manipulation thrown in there, but generally it tracks pretty well. I think what is different this time is that rates are just going mildly negative, but the big players know that the Fed is likely changing it's policy to YCC which will cause much steeper negative rates. Add to that the general uncertainty, it makes gold attractive. Additionally, gold was recently reclassified to a tier 1 asset so it's now on par with the 10Y Treasury and now competes with it in big boy portfolios.

[Anonymous No.21309590]

>>21309461
I think that guy is the APB, but can no longer post his shitty copypasta and shill SLV so he's just spreading his general ignorance over every topic.

[Anonymous No.21309629]

>>21309498
>Rhodesia

My heart sings.

[Anonymous No.21309646]

>>21309433
>Is this your first day on 4chins?
Are you projecting redditor? You clearly aren't from /pmg/ and are probably a /pol/fugee
>>21309461
>The system in which we live now what name would you give it?
Not "capitalism", only a bootlicking marxist brainlet or "right wing" NPC who doesn't understand anything would call the current system capitalism.

> are all children of the enlightenment and are all garbage.
Imagine thinking your retarded monarchist system is any better.
I get it though, due to your genetics, you are much more collectivist and subservient to authority than people like me. It sucks you got those sets of genes, but you are going to have to deal with it, we aren't going back to absolute monarchies anymore.

>>21309590
You aren't even from /pmg/, neetsoc faggot.

[Anonymous No.21309647]

>>21309551
Who’s decides what is a tier 1 asset and what isn’t? Some of you dudes here are very knowledgeable

[Anonymous No.21309662]

>>21306863
This argument is a lot better than that other guys >implying argument. Nice job.

[Anonymous No.21309668]

>>21309498
https://youtu.be/P1720spO4yQ

[Anonymous No.21309712]

>>21309034

Antiquity was non-racialist. This is simply a fact. Every classicist knows this. Zeno, for example, the founder of Stoicism, was Semitic by race, but he gained Athenian citizenship, and was worshipped by the Greeks for his wisdom. Herodotus considered the Egyptians superior to the Greeks. One of the main heroes of the Trojan Wars, Memnon, was an Ethiopian. Julius Caesar and later Octavian adopted a North African, Juba II, who went on to become a distinguished scholar, and married a Greek princess, Cleopatra. And so on and so on. Conversely, the whites of northern Europe were considered to be barbarians, despite their racial similarity with the southern Europeans.

Most educated English men of letters in the 18th century, like Johnson, Beattie, Garrick, Sterne, Lord Mansfield, etc. etc., were categorically anti-racialist. As an example of this, Johnson had a black servant called Francis Barber. Barber was married to a white woman, and their descendants live in Lichfield to this day. Johnson left a substantial part of his inheritance to Barber, and loved him like a son. In France, the mulatto the Chevalier de St Georges was loved for his music; he is known today as the "black Mozart." So in the 19th century Dumas the elder and younger were loved for their literature. Again, even if we go back to the 17th century, Shakespeare writes Othello as a noble hero, and casts the racialist Iago as a villain.

Racialism emerges in the 18th century, as I say, as a justification for slavery, and really takes off in the 20th century with the advent of materialism. As soon as people stopped believing in God and the soul, they turned to this ridiculous determinist ideology which said that your blood, and not your virtue, made you what you were. When this patently untrue. Why did Athens rise and fall, for example? Their blood didn't change; their character did. Sir John Glubb (who adopted Palestinian children) points this out in his "Fate of Empires."

[Anonymous No.21309799]

>>21309712
I agree with you on economics, but even if people back then didn't think in terms of race, they still saw different groups of people, how they looked different and acted different etc, as separate from them

[Anonymous No.21309817]

>>21309646
Annnnnnnnnnd filtered. How ya been APB? I thought we were rid of you. Oh well, still just as easy to recognize by the absolute inanity of every single one of your opinions.

[Anonymous No.21309859]

>>21309817
>Annnnnnnnnnd filtered.

[Anonymous No.21309880]

>>21309647
https://www.investopedia.com/ask/answers/043015/what-difference-between-tier-1-capital-and-tier-2-capital.asp

Bank of International Settlements (BIS) which facilitates banking standards amongst central banks. They have deemed gold now as a primary assset for central banks and that flows into the portfolios of other entities. It's kind of a signal that the powers that be are shifting away from the dollar. Whether that is long term or short term, we shall see.

[Anonymous No.21309933]

I kinda envy LINKers a bit, their graph is something we'll have to wait a bit to see for metals. The difference is, LINK will dump like BTC at $20,000 and our gold and silver will simply become money again. Because let's be honest, they're too high on hope right now to sell.

[Anonymous No.21309949]

>>21309646
>not "capitalism"
fine then give me a name? What is the name of the system in which we live.
The real argument is not about the name anyway and this tangent is just designed to derail the conversation.
>Imagine thinking your retarded monarchist system is any better.
as a form of government it is and even Hoppe recognized that as a person concerned with economic freedom such freedom was found in a monarchy instead of a democracy.
A monarchy is basically private ownership of a country. That is how he viewed it. This created a situation where the king was shrewd in the spending of money and worked to conserve his assets and ensure as profitable an enterprise was passed on to his son.
He also had little incentive to spend his money creating a nanny state to police the people. They were left for the most part to their own devices. Naturally these would be meditated by organizations like the church to instill in them good morals.
Anyone concerned with economy should favor monarchy or some modern variant

[Anonymous No.21309984]

>>21309712
Very well thought out post. Still going to exercise my inalienable right to freedom of association

[Anonymous No.21310034]

>>21309712
Yes, I am aware of this narrative, and it is wrong. There are writings from contemporary historians of the ancient world from all over antiquity who describe the difference in appearance, temperament, and ability. For the vast majority of human history caucosoids (Europeans, Middle Easterners, and Norther Africans) had little in the way of exposure to negroids (sub-saharan Africans), or mongoloids (east Asians). The reason "racialism" rose in the 18th century was because of the massive increases in migration among people resultant from technological advancement and spreading trade.

The Alternative Hypothesis and The Jolly Heretics are two channels that deep dive the science and history of the false narrative you are repeating here, and are worth checking out.

[Anonymous No.21310100]

Paperfags, you bought the dip, right? (physical fags need not apply)

[Anonymous No.21310215]

>>21310100
physicalfags didn't buy the dip because
THERE'S NO FUCKING SILVER TO BUY

[Anonymous No.21310247]

>>21310100
I bought the miner dip and I'm green across the board except MUX.

[Anonymous No.21310270]

>>21307826
>How much do you want to bet you are a virgin?
If that guy is unmarried and is not a degenerate like he claims, then he probably is a virgin. What is your point?

[Anonymous No.21310311]

>>21310215
Fuck it, I want the Asahi rounds. 20 should be good, right? JM bullion still has them.

[Anonymous No.21310331]

>>21310247
Bought 25k at 3:30 yesterday, we're going up now right?

First Majestic
Silvercrest
Barrick
Few others i forget

[Anonymous No.21310377]

>>21310331
First Majestic will pump so hard around January 2021

[Anonymous No.21310401]

>>21310311
buy 21.
twenty for the tube to store and one to play with.

[Anonymous No.21310436]

>>21307846
Swap the eagles for something with a lower premium like maples, roo's, or cyber rounds, and gold should not be purchased in any size smaller than 1/10 oz imo.

[Anonymous No.21310481]

>>21310436
even 1/10 oz has high premiums
I would go 1/4 or old gold coins that are nearly 1/4oz like the sovereign

[Anonymous No.21310657]

>>21306300
>a repeat of 2011-12 where the feared hyper-inflation never happened.
Huh? It totally did. It just wasn't kosher inflation
>products and durables got shittier
>still more expensive
>innovation hid a lot in certain sectors

[Anonymous No.21310710]

>tfw plenty of opportunities to buy fine silver under spot and no cash

[Anonymous No.21310717]

Not mine
>https://twitter.com/jameshenryand/status/1293582915994112001?s=20

[Anonymous No.21310776]

>>21310717

[Anonymous No.21310820]

>>21310331
YES
>>21310377
Checked. I think so. They never went below $30/toz during this dip. Keith is going to put us well into the money.

[Anonymous No.21310822]

>>21306250
What kind of manipulation goes on at the COMEX?

What are the mechanics they use to manipulate prices like yesterday?

[Anonymous No.21310852]

>>21309461
Based and Traditionalism pilled

[Anonymous No.21310871]

>>21310776
>the future First Bank of the Wasteland

[Anonymous No.21310875]

>Your order has shipped
The only better feeling is opening the box

[Anonymous No.21310939]

>>21310717
>>21310776
its awesome that he has that much but minus points for not using a pirate chest in his basement.

[Anonymous No.21311024]

>>21310822
https://youtu.be/9EOPKizJ_Y4
This video is well worth your time. Hemke goes into good detail about how the shorting has been done.

In addition, they've used methods like spoofing and are being investigated by the DOJ with bankers already indicted. It's not a secret. You can find this all over google.

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2020-02-05/jpmorgan-s-role-in-metals-spoofing-is-under-u-s-criminal-probe

[Anonymous No.21311081]

>>21310939
Imagine pulling up to a the Kitco warehouse with this in the back of a Uhaul and having two 500 oz monster boxes of gold maples waiting for you to swap the ratio.
>13,000 oz
>13:1

[Anonymous No.21311103]

>>21310822
Something like this

[Anonymous No.21311122]

>>21310776
Stack the cans in the shape of a whale plz

[Anonymous No.21311217]

have y'all ever had any luck finding silver coins in pocket change? I'm thinking about taking up $100 for half dollars and sort through them.

[Anonymous No.21311239]

>>21311217
Theyre all gone, You also cant get coins anymore

[Anonymous No.21311297]

>>21311239
Kek. Yeah, fuck silver, you can't even get any of it. Now I'm thinking all the banks pulled all their coins to go through one last time to pull all silver out.

[Anonymous No.21311352]

>>21311297
they will for sure do that but they might devalue the currency so much that even the nickle, copper, and zinc might be worth more than the coins.
tough times are ahead regardless. keep your families close

[Anonymous No.21311386]

>>21311217
Good luck ratio used to be 2 silver dimes per 250$ quarters don't exist and halves are area dependant- they are usually clad and for every 1000$ sorted you can expect maybe 5$ face. That was 7 years ago so good luck now.

[Anonymous No.21311411]

>>21311217
just going through coins at work I've found 2 silver dimes, a silver canadian quarter, and a few war nickels. It's possible but you gotta be patient and have an interest in regular coin collecting to make it worth the time.

[Anonymous No.21311427]

>>21310401
>1 to play around with
Best general, bar none.

[Anonymous No.21311482]

>>21311386
I was a bank teller about 15 years ago and I did this. I would sit there during slow times and sort through all the coinage in the vault. Build up a nice bag over a couple years.

[Anonymous No.21311488]

>>21311217
I doubt banks are giving out change right now
There are tons of youtube videos of dudes
searching through rolls for silver
I've never done it but I did go through my change
the other day and found a silver dime. Felt good

[Anonymous No.21311546]

>>21311427
I have started to carry a cyber round in my wallet along with a four of clubs. This way if the shit hits the fan I can identify myself to my fellow anons

[Anonymous No.21311551]

>>21311352
I've considered getting a forge and melting down a shit ton of coins. Startup price is kinda high for me rn.

[Anonymous No.21311596]

>>21311546
Based

[Anonymous No.21311597]

>>21311546
why a four of clubs, anon ?

[Anonymous No.21311616]

>>21311597
>path of light

[Anonymous No.21311643]

>>21311546
>four of clubs
Tbh any card probably does it except the Q of spades.
>i-its ironic
Kek

[Anonymous No.21311647]

>>21311551
Here you go a DIY plaster of paris soup can forge
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jBVa2bw3r_k
you will destroy it over time but its cheap to make and you can use it to make your own little bars

[Anonymous No.21311725]

>>21309949
You tried, but you have to remember that about 80% of people can never get over Nietzsche (even Nietzsche couldn't get over himself) and realize that all the positivism he railed against was itself modern. If people would just stopped worshiping Hegel's descendants we could have a real conversation about what does and doesn't work in the world. Guenon, Carlyle, Girard, all of them present a complete worldview, which is probably why they can't be allowed to be taught.

[Anonymous No.21311756]

>>21311647
Is there an easy way to turn 90% junk into 999?

[Anonymous No.21311760]

>>21311352
There is possibly some fuckery going on with coinage. Remember paper money are Federal Reserve "notes" or DEBT. Coins are made by
the U.S. Mint and have some real value
or debt

[Anonymous No.21311768]

>>21311647
Whelp, thanks fren. I know what my next project is.

[Anonymous No.21311782]

>>21311725
based guenonposter from /lit/

[Anonymous No.21311827]

>>21311616
>>21311643
i dont follow this card astrology stuff, but i am interested. i have an old deck of card and would consider keeping a special card in my wallet

[Anonymous No.21311840]

>>21311827
Just be a fucking meme, bro

[Anonymous No.21311865]

>>21311760
Interesting. Might start hoarding what change I can find.

[Anonymous No.21311868]

>>21311756
I wouldn't recommend it. Constitutional silver is about the most recognized silver there is.

Also, you need Nitric acid and it releases some pretty toxic chemicals. You'd be better off just smelting generic rounds if you wanted to try your hand and hand pours.

[Anonymous No.21311927]

>>21311482
When I was young (about 30 yrs ago) I played
a lot of poker with friends. One of my buddies dad would play sometimes. He was always pulling
quarters and half dollars out of the pot and
exchanging them. He just told us he liked them
Now I know why

[Anonymous No.21311928]

>>21310215
As is, SLV is in posession of 93% of the silver necessary for an OZ per share outstanding and is trading at 93% of the spot. Not seeing an issue tbqh.

[Anonymous No.21311934]

>>21311725
Thanks and yes you are probably correct in the reason these people are not discussed
>>21311760
That I have always wondered does the US borrow money from the FED that is then turned in to coins? How exactly does that work

[Anonymous No.21311935]

I've been enjoying pmg for the past couple of months. You guys are hilarious. Hurts to spend so much, but I feel good knowing I'm not 100% in cash. Am I gonna make it?

[Anonymous No.21311946]

Were should I buy physical silver in Canada

[Anonymous No.21311959]

>>21311927
Kek. He was robbing you guys blind.

[Anonymous No.21311962]

>>21311756
why would you ever do that?

[Anonymous No.21311979]

>>21311827
>>21311840
like the other anon said its a meme
>/pol/
>path of light
>4 clubs = 4chan
do you get it now?

[Anonymous No.21311997]

>>21311928
Press X

[Anonymous No.21312022]

>>21311935
You just reallocated from cash into money.

[Anonymous No.21312037]

>>21311959
Old bastard jewed all of our silver!

[Anonymous No.21312054]

>>21311935
How does 160 virgin slaves and a hotel sounds like?

[Anonymous No.21312071]

>>21311946
Probably the United States

[Anonymous No.21312108]

>>21311935
Just be careful anon, when I was starting I was getting silver parcels every 2-3 days, sometimes I couldn't even remember ordering them. And yes, technically speaking you're not "spending money", you're just exchanging one currency for another, but you still need Fiat these days. Don't get in a situation where you have to suddenly sell your metals to pay a rent or something.

[Anonymous No.21312193]

>>21311979
oh i see what you did there

[Anonymous No.21312251]

>>21311997
?

[Anonymous No.21312281]

>>21312108
When I first got into it years ago I would spend 60% of my pay each month and had 0$ in savings. Then I'd be forced to sell something I didn't want to sell. Now, I am more responsible with my coin purchases and you will find if you do it as a side business it can be quite lucrative

[Anonymous No.21312341]

>>21311946
I have ordered from SilverGoldBull in Canada, but depending on shipping >>21312071 might actually be right. I've noticed that a lot of american sources are actually a fair bit cheaper.

As far as I understand, pure metals (999 silver/gold) do not have any tax/duty, so importing from the US shouldn't cost any more than currency conversion + shipping.

[Anonymous No.21312404]

>>21312281
>you will find if you do it as a side business it can be quite lucrative
please tell me more

[Anonymous No.21312427]

>>21310034

The only ancient racialist writings of which I am aware are those of pseudo-Aristotle (not even Aristotle himself), who says that Greeks are a "golden mean" between the barbarians of the north and the hot countries of the south. Herodotus, for example, is very aware of the difference between different nations and peoples, but he glories in them; he loves to document them; and he is clearly not a racialist. You don't have to be a racialist to note that there are differences between different cultures. You don't have to be a racialist to oppose mass immigration (which clearly Herodotus would have opposed as well).

In antiquity, people looked at the barbarians as inferior; but they didn't say: "See those ridiculous Germans, those worthless biologically inferior specimens. They will never be civilized. Eradicate them all." On the contrary, the Romans even believed it was their mission to civilize the barbarians. They thought that people could be elevated and educated. The racialist doesn't believe this. He doesn't think that people can ever change. Herodotus believed that nations rose by their virtue and fell by their vice; this is the explicit message of his Histories, and the message which he puts into the mouth of Cyrus at the closing of his work. But the racialist doesn't think like this. He thinks that you can only breed a better people. He only believes in blood. He doesn't believe in free will.

[Anonymous No.21312451]

[Anonymous No.21312477]

>>21311217
I've found a few silver dimes over the past year or so. The thrill of finding one never gets old.

[Anonymous No.21312502]

kitco is still freaking the fuck out, anyone have an alternative to watch live spot?

[Anonymous No.21312519]

>>21312477
Its like a surprise blowjob.
Checked

[Anonymous No.21312526]

>>21309646
it is capitalism retard. unfortunately you have to actually read the theory, regurgitating other autists on /pol/ only gets you so far.

[Anonymous No.21312551]

>>21312427
>free will.
That's a big discussion. let's save it for after we obtain the metals needed for the yacht party.

[Anonymous No.21312602]

>>21311756
Why would you do that? It's worth more as silver coins than as a bar that would need to be assayed. Silver shot is usually cheaper than junk silver anyways.

[Anonymous No.21312664]

>>21312451
what the fuck does this mean anon

[Anonymous No.21312685]

>>21312502
https://www.macrotrends.net/2589/silver-prices-today-live-chart
https://www.macrotrends.net/2586/gold-prices-today-live-chart
https://silvergoldbull.com/live-silver-price
https://silvergoldbull.com/live-gold-price
https://www.xe.com/currencycharts/?from=XAG&to=USD&view=12h
https://www.xe.com/currencycharts/?from=XAU&to=USD&view=12h

[Anonymous No.21312715]

>>21311756
im not even going to ask you why, just dont do it

[Anonymous No.21312753]

>>21312427
See, I completely agree with this for every single race and nation on the planet except for Africans. They’re a different breed entirely

[Anonymous No.21312756]

>>21312664
[brrr intensifies]

[Anonymous No.21312773]

>>21312685
thanks

[Anonymous No.21312803]

>>21312502
Just use Trading View. Best charting by far

[Anonymous No.21312990]

Anyone else find that dealing with eBay sellers for silver is either one of two extremes?

Either they're fantastic, or it's like pulling teeth.

No response, badly delayed responses, copping an attitude for basic questions like "I don't see a purity stamp - is it on the rim?", etc...

It's all so tiresome.

[Anonymous No.21313039]

>>21309140
>Why hold a 10 Year Treasury that is losing X% every year when you can hold gold instead and not lose purchasing power? That's what central banks, hedge funds, pension funds, and little guys are asking themselves right now...except it's only those paying attention to this.
Maybe because you still feel the dollar is safer than other currencies? Or you want to keep your money out of stocks, etc. I mean people buy Japanese bonds right?

[Anonymous No.21313090]

>>21312990
Very professional in the UK, must say I was very happy every time I had to use their (a bit overpriced) services. Especially during the March shitshow, was in contact with my eBay seller once a week about a certain rare coin. Bought it for $40, when it finally came to me after 2 months it was already closing on $100. No bullshit from the seller tho.

[Anonymous No.21313165]

>>21313039
>Japanese Bonds
Oh no no no no HAHAHAHAHA, nobody told them about the Lolicon Epidemic? These fuckers don't want to reproduce, they eject more semen to a drawings of a child than inside a real woman.

[Anonymous No.21313180]

>>21312803
trading view is by far the best but kitco is nice to have on in an extra monitor to just be able to glance at every now and then.
This is how my three monitor setup usually is and I find it works perfect for this type of thing

[Anonymous No.21313195]

>>21311946
I've spent probably over 50k at silvergoldbull over the past 5 years, never had an issue.
Their eBay page used to have random sick deals (rest all overpriced on eBay), haven't seen anything this year but keep an eye out there as well.