REAL LINK THREAD

[Anonymous No.21128507]

OG here

don't get caught in the psyop to hold forever, dont get caught when whales alert will pop left and right.
don't get caught with paper gains.
don't get caught holding another -50% move
don't get caught in bigger bullmarket than 2017 narrative.

use your brain, people hold 100K+ LINK, check it on etherscan. people hoarded LINK in massive amounts for 2000-4000 SATS. me included, just not that massive as others.

Everyone is a winner,everyone will be rich, everyone will catch the top and sell it, yeah, everyone will time it perfectly.

I've seen this movie before in 2017, and remember kids- for you to unload those bags at premium - someone has to lose their savings and catch that top, then cry for months when correction and reversal happens.

stay safe kids, and remember. this is just a game and you are playing against everyone here.

>https://old.vocaroo.com/i/s18AjfUgNu2S

[Anonymous No.21128599]

>>21128507

[Anonymous No.21128607]

>>21128507
Sounds like you don't even understand your own investment. If LINK is successful, then we're still at the bottom and the price will only go up as smart contracts become common place and LINK is staked for SCs and thus pulled from circulation.

But this is a FUD copy pasta why did I reply.

[Anonymous No.21128628]

>>21128599
still holding 100%?
>>21128607
this is not pasta you fuckin newfag use warosu and find me exact thread. also that's a big IF you got there kid.

[Anonymous No.21128634]

>>21128607
>>21128507
I'd agree if you were holding btc

[Anonymous No.21128648]

>>21128507
Why would anyone that is becoming rich dump now and garnish their fortune?

Sometimes i really think you guys are just fucking jealous and dont want others to have a good life

Why dont you go and spam tranny posts on /b/

Stop grinding ur teeth and go outside

[Anonymous No.21128675]

>>21128648
okay so noone OG 50K-100K holders dumped already ? are you out of your fuckin mind ? also who visits that tranny board ? /b/ died in 2010 you fuckin newfag

[Anonymous No.21128679]

>>21128507
What part of never selling do you not understand? If I can receive derivatives in fiat why would I EVER touch my linkies

[Anonymous No.21128696]

>>21128628
I have nearly 3 times what's in the pic and yes, still holding all of it. The only transfer out from my eth adress is when I tried to trade 1000 link. I transferred it back there after a day or two.

[Anonymous No.21128715]

>>21128507
My dearest friend, it is with immense pleasure that I inform you that your letter has found safe travel to my destination and landed in my hands. However, this pleasure was fated to remain short lived and bittersweet, for I must also admit to you, regardless of what distress it may cause to you, knowing you went to great trouble to pen it and deliver it to me, that I in fact declined to open it and refused to read the message contained within. Surmising your intentions, there exists no doubt in my heart regarding your sincere worries for my financial well being, but alas your attempts to convince me to modify my investment strategies shall regretfully remain futile, as my stubbornness in this matter has indeed been sealed irrevocably and no other voice shall rock its imperturbable foundations. Allow me then to reiterate my will once more, and do your best to forever remember it for no change will follow: I shan't part ways with my beloved asset for it is my utmost belief that I have invested wisely and foresee infinite potential in its future, and therefore no other possession in this world shall change my decision, not even a mountain of gold! For my possessed asset is indeed fated to be worth more than any other riches in the world. We shan't speak of this no more. Sincerely yours, a beloved friend.

[Anonymous No.21128768]

>>21128696
alright, whats your plan from here then

[Anonymous No.21128769]

>>21128507
I like how you put a space

between each line

super easy to read!

Do I have to login to upvote a post?

[Anonymous No.21128770]

>>21128675
Why they would settle for 500k or 1 mil?its certain that link will moon alot from here. Staking. Smartcon. Swift. Etc.

[Anonymous No.21128913]

>>21128770
>certain
>24/7 unregulated market
>people hold hundreds of thousands of asset , already 40-60 times aka 4000-6000% or more in profit
yeah what could go wrong. also dunno what are we waiting for with staking, meanwhile BAND a fuckin copycat scam just made it possible and this fuckin piece of shit made a run from 30 cents to almost 10$ in 5 months which is rustling my jimmies.

also conferences are 99% nothinburger because Sergey is like that,i would bet on out of the blue announcment in some tweet on casual thursday rather than stage announcment. conferences etc are for vision/development updates
>>21128769
you understand its easier for the eye and rules of oneline have been abolished, because they were made by some cheetofinger mouthbreathers back in early 2000's

[Anonymous No.21128919]

>>21128768
Could retire in my home country when it hits $11 but I'm gonna keep working in UK untill at least April ( to end tax year, cause I'm getting around £1.5k a year of tax return) or longer if Link crashes, honestly no rush there for me. Preferably I'd sell start selling at $22 getting myself house/flat back home and maybe start buying apartments for rent/sell and renovations( which I would do myself). If Link goes higher then I'd hook up my whole family with whatever they need. Especially nice 1st floor flats for my grandmothers with daily help ( nurses) and probably a house and a car for my mom). Myself I don't need much so I'd just settle for a house and some random car.

[Anonymous No.21128991]

>>21128919
better sell now lol. when it gets to $22 you will be saying the same thing except you'll be saying $44 and then it crashes to $4 and stays there

[Anonymous No.21129017]

>>21128913
>you understand its easier for the eye and rules of oneline have been abolished, because they were made by some cheetofinger mouthbreathers back in early 2000's

THIS. SO. MUCH. THIS.
take this upvote and gold kind stranger.

[Anonymous No.21129063]

>>21128919
one word- greed.

[Anonymous No.21129068]

>>21128507
>>https://old.vocaroo.com/i/s18AjfUgNu2S
Can't tell if you're being ironic or actually fucking retarded. Imagine typing a shit wall of text about taking profits then posting that vocaroo. Take your meds.

[Anonymous No.21129083]

>>21128913
Thanks for the advice kind stranger!

[Anonymous No.21129086]

>>21128913
If you're so OG, why aren't you sitting on a big position? Actual OG here, nobody I know with a fat stack is planning to unload soon, especially not everything in one go. We're talking everyone 50k+, richest guy has 100k+.

[Anonymous No.21129096]

>>21129017
kek

[Anonymous No.21129136]

>>21128991
As I said no rush for me, and I don't need much. I can live in my rented room for the rest of my life and not complain ( I won't cause I'm great as saving money). So unless some medical emergency happens to me or my close family I am good to not earn anything from link.

>>21129063
Is that all you took from this? I literally want to give away half my money and then have a place for myself and enough to have a business that could sustain me for the rest of my life. Noone knows that I have so much invested apart from my Mom and she doesn't expect me to give her anything. So if I sell at $11, $22, $1000 or $0 doesn't matter to anyone from my family ( cause they don't know) myself included.

[Anonymous No.21129146]

>>21128715
fucking kek

[Anonymous No.21129150]

>>21128507
not fucking selling.

[Anonymous No.21129194]

>>21128507
OMG LOOK AT THAT SPACING!!!

[Anonymous No.21129235]

>>21129068
>imagine not understanding meaning of this vocaroo which was made long before current fuckin situation
>>21129083
no problem good luck !
>>21129086
>thinking i showed all my buy orders
i unloaded some already but good luck boys,you just proving my point discord trannies
>>21129136
protect your gains thats all i have to say, and good luck with your plan.

[Anonymous No.21129319]

>>21128507
>>21128599
How can you be an OG and not even have a suicide stack?

[Anonymous No.21129359]

>>21129319
thanks for bump pajeet

[Anonymous No.21129366]

>>21128715
Based!

[Anonymous No.21129390]

>>21129359
You're welcome Rajeesh!
The streets are full can you do the needful and clean it?

[Anonymous No.21129426]

>>21128715
Saved and based

[Anonymous No.21129448]

>>21129235
>anon writes a garbage thread telling other anons to take profits
>anon links jordanpetersonneverselling.mp3 at the bottom
????
Actual retard confirmed

[Anonymous No.21129513]

>>21128715
Based verbose poster KEKKED

[Anonymous No.21129537]

>>21129390
whiter than you ever will be
>>21129448
yeah everyone is a winner, we are going to 50X or 100X from here 100%.

everyone will have time to unload at the top.

keep sentiment up high trannies, while unloading those bags.

im out of this thread, not posting on this shit board anymore. i guess most of the people with triple digit LINK stacks will make it too.

LMFAO

[Anonymous No.21129551]

>>21128507
$BAND

[Anonymous No.21129588]

>>21129537
That's right you ESL dunning kruger retard. Leave this board and never return lmfao you short time preference reddit spacing poorfag.

[rohatsu.com No.21129673]

LINK will hit $2k or even $2500 in 2024,
BUT nobody said it is an EASY hodl,
if it was that easy, everypne will be buying and just holding
it doesnt work this way

ppl who are selling now at $10 will be rebuying at $40, at $70, at $100
of course u can make so much more by trading LINK, selling the highs and rebuying not even the lows, but just rebuying lower
BUT this is even harder than HOLDING for 4-7 years

BUT u can be a perfect HOLDER by just holding
U NEVER WILL BE A PERFECT TRADER/DAY TRADER
at some point u will sell and price will move up so quicky, u will refuse to rebuy less link for more,
and u will just watch link oing higher and higher


chain link is the oracle of internet 4.0
chain link literally taxes internet 4.0

[Anonymous No.21129704]

>>21129588

[Anonymous No.21129708]

>>21129537
Makes sense you can't keep your stack with that weak hand.

Also thank you for the self dox picture, I reported you for giving out financial advice without a license.

[Anonymous No.21129729]

>>21129537
gym routine NOW anon theres no use having $ gains without aesthetic gains as well

[Anonymous No.21129731]

>>21129708

[Anonymous No.21129762]

If this shit doesnt crash back to $4 at some stage so I can get my full stack back there going to be trouble let me tell you

[Anonymous No.21129796]

LINK still has the most upside potential. There is one caveat though - you need to look up how to safely Jelq if you're going to hold LINK for any significant amount of time. For the last 9 months I've been stacking LINK and I've also been Jelqing a ton too. It's like the price of LINK and the frequency at which I Jelq are somehow correlated. At work today, I hid in the bathroom three separate times to check the price of LINK and Jelq. By holding LINK I am literally compelled to Jelq, it's like I don't have a choice.

[Anonymous No.21129813]

>>21129729
this is 27 inch screen smallson, guess you pajeets dont understand perspective.
>185cm
>82kg
>10% BF after this year cut


and now im out for real, have fun in the playground kids.

[Anonymous No.21129817]

>>21128715
God bless you anon.

[Anonymous No.21129890]

>>21129796
So the bigger your dick grows the bigger our linkies grow? Keep Jelqing anon, you're fighting the good fight. Thank you.

[Anonymous No.21129949]

>>21129813
gym anon, and thats an order

[Anonymous No.21130139]

>>21129235
Most of the holders are newfags and the small circle that holds massive supply.
If you go to their pivotal tracker:
https://www.pivotaltracker.com/n/projects/2129823

You'll notice not a single Staking Icebox task has been touched for over 8 fucking months.

[Anonymous No.21130241]

>>21130139
I'd like to add the current pump is just for the upcoming conference pricing in, don't be holding the bags after then.

[Anonymous No.21130511]

>>21130139
fuck i have to respond to this, i remember checking github pushes and pivotal on the daily. guess i didnt check pivotal more than 8 months now. good fuckin times
>>21129949
i lift for years what you smokin

[Anonymous No.21130712]

>>21128507
This actually interests me as a relative noob.. Despite posting here since 17. If someone sold 10k stack on the market would that greatly effect the price? Would it get bought fast you think?

[Anonymous No.21130743]

>>21130712
depends on current algos in play and order book + current candles. 10K market sell can easily affect the price. ~4Kish sells are triggering "large sells" alerts on Binance nowadays.

[Anonymous No.21130747]

>>21128715
we got /lit/ up in this mf

[Anonymous No.21130808]

>>21130743
So is it safe to say that the overwhelming majority of linkers are not selling? I wonder how many people could actually profit. It's hard to understand because you don't see anyone you trade with or know who exactly is doing wht, but then again I don't know all the technicals of it.

[Anonymous No.21131052]

>>21130808
theres no fuckin way to check, you can monitor top wallets on etherscan like this one
>https://etherscan.io/token/0x514910771af9ca656af840dff83e8264ecf986ca?a=0x340fb08a710bcd60c4c94ec6d129f6df7ee12daa
this address had ~60000 LINK, took out 50K out in ~april, and only has 30K now, he transferred back some.

so either he panic sold, turned this into other coins, or sold portion to cash or whatever.

you can't get data of how many people actually sold for sure. a lot of LINK is held on exchanges.

i never used some wallet so you wouldnt find my address since it's the same as exchanges.

meaning you can't fuckin tell how,when and how much i sold/bought.

do you really think all the people from this board who bought through years didnt sell anything?

people sell, people buy, its just a market and anon board. just like people fudded to fuck with people, just like that people will encorage completely different view and make other anons lose money just for keks.

[Anonymous No.21131309]

>>21131052
How can you not get data on how many sold? You can get data on anything

[Anonymous No.21131419]

>>21131309
1000 accounts buy on Binance
500 users take coins out of Binance wallets
500 wallets created on chain trackable
500 accounts left on Binance with X amounts
500 wallets from Etherscan hold

so you are left with 500 accounts with Y amount of LINK that you dont know shit about.

if someone bought 100K LINK and took it out to the wallet he was not first timer in the game, so probably took measurements to swing/ accquire more, and leave Z amount of LINK to sell for cash when in rush.

[Anonymous No.21131526]

>>21129813
Just zoom in when you take a picture so that it ends up being easier to read

[Anonymous No.21131584]

>>21128507
You sound like someone who only invested in it for speculation and doesn't care about the tech at all. Which is fine, but the reason people say they're never selling isn't because they think it'll go to infinite dollars or replace fiat.

[Anonymous No.21131686]

>>21128675
>okay so noone OG 50K-100K holders dumped already ?
Correct. Actually I just market bought more last week to try and liquidate next kek
t. 50k-100k holder

[AstrosDaddy !!laxcg/w35F/ No.21131723]

>>21131526
thanks for the advice grandpa, i will do a better job next time shitposting and taking care of quality of my pictures i made in 5 seconds
>>21131584
half guilty, half link dreamer. meanwhile responsible for a lot of quality threads through the years, banning astro trip and assuring LINKies to not sell bottom this March , in September 2019 etc.

never FUDed LINK, and never will, but im not brainwashed either to not take profits along the way.

[Anonymous No.21131751]

>>21131686
proofs or gtfo to discord tranny

[Anonymous No.21131785]

so is the 9 candle from the td sequential indicator going to rekt us or are we longing this shit straight through zues's stop loss and short squeezing straight through $12?

[Anonymous No.21131789]

>>21131584
why then? because staking?

[Anonymous No.21131879]

>>21131785
who the fuck knows

[Anonymous No.21131909]

>>21129537
Nice iiyama monitor fucking poorfag LMAO

[Anonymous No.21131944]

>>21131419
thank you for the responding my curiosity, total bro. have a nice day.

[Anonymous No.21131999]

>>21131909
144hz 27 inches with best stats for the price, why would i pay more for something with same response time etc.
>>21131944
no problem, take care

[Anonymous No.21132091]

>>21130511
Lift harder

[42 No.21132104]

>>21128507
>don't get caught in the psyop to hold forever
didn't read
not selling

[Anonymous No.21132237]

>>21132091
nah fuck getting big and cutting, my goal is to stay remotely lean so i can do a quick cut for the summer. i was 100+ KG couple of years before on neverending mass, not going back for sure. also weightlifting is pointless without mexican supplements, i just use lifting to control my weight now.

[Anonymous No.21132260]

OP u got through to 1 person in this wave of madness. dont worry fren im taking profits on the way up starting from 10 dollars

i know it has to end eventually. god speed

[Anonymous No.21132352]

>>21128628
Fuck off zeus you fucking pleb

[Anonymous No.21132355]

>>21128507
This is some high quality fudd

[Anonymous No.21132357]

>>21132260
nah dude, its your money and you make calls. im just giving people perspective.

personally im good either way, if LINK dumps im ready both financially and mentally. if LINK pumps im stacked too so.

literally can't lose, and coulda shoulda woulda is out of the question.

[Anonymous No.21132416]

>>21128715
No linker
>Pic related

[Anonymous No.21132475]

>>21131999
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[Anonymous No.21132508]

>>21128507
>seething redditor tries to buy in a few dollars cheaper

Get fucked cuckbrain

[Anonymous No.21132523]

>>21132352
>>21132355
fuck two of you for calling this FUD where i revealed a trip itt that i got astro banned with and defended LINK for fuckin months you piece of shits

[Anonymous No.21132680]

>>21132357
Your advice is fine for wagies who simply want to take another step towards getting out. I’ve already escaped waging and I’m sure some other anons as well, for those who have, link hasn’t even scratched the surface of it’s potential. It’s overvalued right now, and it could still crash to zero, but we have a long way to go. “Take profits” is for wagies that just want to live a little comfier and can’t afford what they already risked, or can’t wait 5 more years.

[Anonymous No.21132722]

>>21132523
Stay mad nigger. Listen to this, didn't read not fucking selling

[Anonymous No.21132768]

>>21128715
Based and Pullitzerpilled

[Anonymous No.21132829]

>>21132523
You sound like a total faggot OP.

[Anonymous No.21132866]

>>21132680
im simply amazed by your logic, and fact that you are another human being in front of a keyboard figuratively vomiting this piece of shit post, solving captcha and clicking POST thinking you are smart.

like you are so fuckin wrong on so many levels that's it's uncureable. do you have enough brain cells left to doubt what your peanut brain just transferred here in that post ?

you are not only contradicting yourself, but you are just FUNDAMENTALLY wrong about what should be done with money.

nobody should fuckin put money on the table, and just go
>1000$ OR ZERO HUEHUEHUHE

as human beings we adjust, and in survival of the fittest, those who win, take calculated risks and act on it, those are the winners ultimately.

if you have that mindset, cash out LINK 100% go to the UNISWAP and buy some fuckin Defi bubble scam. holy fuckin shit.

i will adjust with markets, global situation, personal situation,weather, rice prices or whatever fuckin i choose to be important relative to the situation.

then i will make decisions about my money.
just like i did putting it in LINK in first place.
>>21132722
whiter than you ever will be mohamed
>>21132829
kisses another double digit iq poster, or you all are one person, Versetti is not paying anymore so you switched to another lowiq cents per post wage ?

[Anonymous No.21132942]

>>21128715
Gave me a warm feeling inside and no I didn't peepee in my pants

[Anonymous No.21132978]

>>21132866
>kisses another double digit iq poster, or you all are one person, Versetti is not paying anymore so you switched to another lowiq cents per post wage ?
>Talk like a provocative fag
>Thinks everyone calling him out on it is the same person
Heh, must be hard having sold sub $10

[Anonymous No.21133030]

>>21132978
here have a you, just adjust the helmet while surfing the web son

[Anonymous No.21133038]

>>21128507
Thats called market movement, when speculation makes the price go crazy, some people profit more than other during the moves. However, Link is a legit project getting better and better and more used and used. Link price WILL go up organically as demands increase. Now we're all playing the game of whats its true value. Is it 10$ ? 1$ ? 100$ ? 1000 $ ? Swingers and traders will make profits (or losses kek) along the way to mitigate the risk, and believer will market buy as they can and hold and assume the loss if the project doesn't deliver as much as promised. However, Link is going what Eth did, quite literally, and all indicators point to its cruve being relatively S, aka a big ascend (as its doing now) into a relatively stable state (like Eth is doing) (relatively in crypto term, meaning that you could still lose half your money at the very top, but the bottom that will ensues will still be leagues above what it is now). I'm aware that what I'm saying isn't much better than psypop, but I really want to get the point accross that among all of the crypto (and there is like ten thousand of them) all eyes are turned on Link for a reason. The project, the technology, the possibilities, they all align toward something of greater value than everything else on the market right now. You would be a fool to not give Link a serious chance.

[Anonymous No.21133103]

>>21132866
Why does link attract the most insufferable faggots? You, 42... there's only one based link poster and he doesn't tripfag

[Anonymous No.21133122]

>>21132866
What are your sell targets then OP? Selling right now feels pretty silly with Defi just heating up and crypto as a whole.

[Anonymous No.21133265]

>>21133103
Because it's a literal cult.

[Anonymous No.21133269]

>>21133038
>You would be a fool to not give Link a serious chance.
who the fuck say i didnt, but what was ICO craze for ETH, is real world adoption (not crypto price feeds). and thats the next IF.

also ETH was already at 40-50$ with current LINK marketcap. ICO craze and enormous retail attention + tether printing scam pushed ETH to 4 digit number in USD with 10 times less coins on the market.

2017 run can never happen again. thats my devils advocate.
>>21133103
sure buddy, show your buy-ins
>>21133122
dont know yet, wont post shit about it when i sell either, coz i make my own targets on the fly. Defi heating up? more like scams popping on UNISWAP similiar to Yobit or Nova in 2017. wont touch shit other than LINK. blockchain this blockchain that decentralize everything, lmao.

[Anonymous No.21133329]

>>21129537
Fit here your hands look laughably weak, for your own good please exercise

[Anonymous No.21133428]

>>21133329
fingers look like that when you are triple digit IQ white male, who is not working construction and lifting with gloves so i wont have my fuckin hands popping with pus from imprints whenever i touch somebody. go back to /fit/ you fuckin homosexual so you can look at male bodies 24/7 and comment on their physique

[Anonymous No.21133447]

Suicide stack is now almost 11 grand, I literally couldn't cope with being a nulinker

[Anonymous No.21133577]

>>21133428
you're cope is pathetic LMAO. even if your trades are so smart you'll still be disgusting alien finger 120lb lanklord. for your own good, please go workout.

[Anonymous No.21133675]

>>21133577
>your
here's my weight before cut this year, also those alien fingers would make your girl squirt in seconds

[Anonymous No.21133687]

>>21128715
based

[Anonymous No.21133992]

yeah thread went dead, people got BTFO'd with reason, and back to "will i make it with 500LINK" threads on first page.

going out to have some fun this saturday, good luck anons !

[Anonymous No.21134025]

>>21133992
what a pathetic loser desperate for attention
kek.

[Anonymous No.21134357]

>>21134025

[Anonymous No.21134955]

>>21129796
>>21128715
>>21133038

/biz/ is one of the funniest boards along with /fit/. you cooked fuckers never fail to get a laugh out of me.

also you guys made me $5000 and counting <3

[Anonymous No.21135093]

You pussies ain't shit.

[Anonymous No.21135258]

>>21133269
>2017 run can never happen again. thats my devils advocate
The exact same run won't happen again. But a different run, based on different catalysts certainly could. I remember 2017/18 and how people were salivating about "big players coming in soon," about institutional adoption etc. Well, I'd say that the current state is much more bullish in that respect than people could have foreseen back then. We've gone from bit players dismissing it as a scam to running their own blockchain projects, many of which will likely integrate Chainlink.

[Anonymous No.21135275]

>>21128715
Absolute gem of a post.

[Anonymous No.21135295]

>>21135093
If that's real, then congrats anon. Seriously.

[Anonymous No.21135439]

You niggers who are doubting link should leave. This shit is just getting started. When I tell you that there are literal asset managers getting into the space right now buying slow as fuck bitcoin, you know we are early. The bull we are currently in will be 3x as insane as 2017 and if you sell now you will absolutely regret it

[Anonymous No.21135528]

>>21128507
Is this what eth holders said. We really don’t care if there is a 50% retrace won’t matter Bc we bought at 20cents. It either wins or we lose I’m ok with that. Don’t need 1k, $100 will be just fine

[Anonymous No.21135549]

>>21128913

Honestly the nothing burger conference thing needs to change. This is the time to start making hyper announcements that are backed by something.

I know link has been 0 hype. But eventually as you mature as a company you need to start doing shit like that. Look at every other major tech company in the world. They have these presentation announcements for their product and the big new features. You spread awareness and the value of your product that way. It's time for link to join the big boys. The tech already speaks for itself, but now it's
time to start speaking for it as well.

[Anonymous No.21135986]

>>21134357
hey faggot, i have over 100k LINK and u want me to sell before staking is announced? oh nono no nofuck off