/biz/ - Business & Finance

[Anonymous No.21057321]

Has anyone from /biz/ ACTUALLY made it? By that, I mean owning their own land/property, enough passive income to never have to wage again, and a maximum comfy life.

What is it like bros?

[Anonymous No.21057338]

would like to know as well

[Anonymous No.21057409]

>>21057321
everyone here is a depressed mentally ill NEET. making it will probably kill half of us due to alcoholism.

[Anonymous No.21057445]

I haven't made it from /biz/ yet but I work from home doing almost nothing, own a house, am pretty comfy etc. It's really not as amazing as you think while at the same time being the greatest thing ever, hard to explain. The key is you have to understand what you gained was time and freedom. Figure out your passions what you enjoy, what you like to do, and appreciate that you can do them now.
If you're chasing material shit you will never be satisfied, not at 1 million, 10, or 100. It's just another form of addiction.

[Anonymous No.21057579]

>>21057321
there has been, but they've already left.
Currently there are dozens of bizlets who have 200k+ portfolios that will make it big after the bullrun if they invest wisely.
In the end, making it is really about what this anon said >>21057445
and living a fulfilling life that isn't really about gains, but about making something out of yourself. Mastering skills, making real friends which is hard when you make it.
As someone who used to attend Buddhist temples, there are plenty of millionaires who are miserable because lacking normal means of suffering creates other internal more complex forms of suffering that nobody understands.

[Anonymous No.21057677]

>>21057321
I'm currently at 3.4 Megadollar / 2.9 Megaeuro.

Started out with 300 bucks to my name in 2008 when I was 18
Highest I ever had was 12 Million in 12/2017

Was a wild ride.

[Anonymous No.21057707]

>>21057579
Exactly, end of the day we're still animals, we're meant to have to do something for survival. Dopamine is there to get us what we need to survive (food/fucking), when you flood yourself with it you build a tolerance just like with drug addiction and end up an empty hollow shell. That's when you hit the next step, and you look for causes bigger than yourself. Religion, meditation, your children, something besides "this make me happy/feel good".

[Anonymous No.21058211]

>>21057445
I'm in the same situation as you and I agree 100%.
>>21057707
I hit that dopamine wall several years ago and I've been grappling with it ever since. Nice to see there's at least a few other anons here on the same page as me.

[Anonymous No.21058387]

>>21057321
I enjoy a pretty good subset of that.
In 2010 my parents died and left a portion of their estate to me, about $150k. I used 50 of that to buy a piece of family property with a cabin on it. Put 10 into BTC.
Sold some of the BTC when it hit 1k and most of the rest in 2018 at like 12.
So I don’t exactly have to work to live, my passive income keeps my taxes and insurance and such paid, food on the table, toothpaste, etc.
I do remote work as a contract SAP architect, which is what I was doing before making it. This is mostly because I need at least some structure in my life, and the company I work for offers free health care as long as I bill enough hours every year.

[Anonymous No.21058400]

>>21057579
>In the end, making it is really about what this anon said >>21057445
>and living a fulfilling life that isn't really about gains, but about making something out of yourself. Mastering skills, making real friends which is hard when you make it.
>As someone who used to attend Buddhist temples, there are plenty of millionaires who are miserable because lacking normal means of suffering creates other internal more complex forms of suffering that nobody understands.
Very true. Even though I was probably one of the best prepared (poor) persons ever to get rich I went into a kind of philosophical crisis in 2018-2019. I had just finished university but was always raised to slave away in some cubicle.
I preped like 15 years and still felt very weird.

2008 0.3k Graduate high school and get drafted into slave tier compulsory military service.
2009 7k Save money from it and invest in silver and mining stocks
2010 18k Second year of military service. Now in comfy tier position. In the evening work in a market research institute in the city lol. Also, enter university.
2011 37k Silver tops out and I sell the following year around 30$ per ounce
2012 45k Program automated trading systems with Ninjatrader (never use them much for crypto but it taught me important lessons about properties of different trading strategies)
2013 70k invest 7k in LTC very late and do a few x on other Alts
2014 Get into Doge get to >110k then drop back to like 50k. Also drop out of university and change to another one.
2015 45k Not much interesting happening
2016 160k Get back into Alts LTC, XMR, ETH, make several X on XMR pump in autumn then but back money into BTC. Give friend like 1/3 of my money for trading since I thought we would be better them me but he lost it ALL within 1 month shorting BTC (otherwise would stand at 250k for the year). I suffered from LSD induced depression for several months in 2016 which impaired my decision-making skills.

[Anonymous No.21058516]

>>21057579
>Currently there are dozens of bizlets who have 200k+ portfolios that will make it big after the bullrun if they invest wisely
Good to know my $50 starting point isnt going to make me shit in the bullrun.

[Anonymous No.21058604]

>>21058516
Everyone has to start somewhere. People just like you said "why the fuck should I buy BTC when it's 10 dollars" years ago.

[Anonymous No.21058673]

>>21058516
we're at the first stages still, if you can manage to throw in 7k at the right time within the next 8 weeks you can easily get six figures by mid 2021. When I said make it big I meant that they will be making fuck you money and will never have to work again.

[Anonymous No.21058721]

>>21057321
True story im a link whale,

I haven't told friends nor family, I haven't taken out more money then $550,000(usd), I spent 3k of that on an advisor for handling my tax. I paid of my original 260k+ default I took out when I bought my first million linkies two years ago during its biggest drop. I had a house and used it as colateral knowing my job would never pay it off. I invested in other stuff, only profited from BTC out of all of it. I have been successful minus three times that I have move my stack back and forth, every other time I sold high and bought in again. I dont plan to cash out, in fact I plan to take out enough to finish my mortgage and I will continue to accunulate or rinse repeat indefinitely. I want to go from 22 million linkies to 90 in two more years if I can.

I still live like I'm poor, I told my friends and family that I'm a developer and just get by (im software engineer). Anyway I think we can all make it.

[Anonymous No.21058748]

>>21057707
based as fuck. I needed to hear this. thanks

[Anonymous No.21058765]

>>21058400
2017 Think altcoins might be the dotcom-boom of our generation and switch back from BTC into Alts: ETH, XMR, MAID, Golem, iExec, Strat
A few rise up big time. E.g. I bought STRAT for 7 cents and sold in 2018 for 14 bucks

2018 1.95 million Portfolio maxes out around 12 Megadollars but for tax reasons, I had to hodl until March/April or pay like 47% taxes. I also made some tax escape plans to other countries but was too lazy to actually follow through. Some projects turn into dust, others do fine. Have all in cash on my bank account for the better part of the year

2019 2,3 million Go back to precious metals and invest in Gold, Silver and mining stocks and build my current portfolio

2020 Corona fucks everything up. Stocks, Crypto, Metals. Lowest point of portfolio was 1.5 Million after rising to 2.5 Million in February. Currently it sits at around 2,9 Million after all my bets started to ascend again.

[Anonymous No.21058789]

>>21057321
Not yet. I'll let you know in a few years

[Anonymous No.21058813]

>>21058721
That's very cool anon, wish I had balls like you. I missed it in 2017 but even last year I could have accepted 85k in student loans and dropped them all into link, would have had it paid off and still been sitting on around 30k linkies, but pussed out. I hope you reach a billion dollars, would be very cool to see link billionaires.

[Anonymous No.21058843]

>>21057321
The point of making it is to in part be able to leave 4chan behind.

[Anonymous No.21058907]

>>21058843
Ha no. If anything this is going to be a place you'll want to return to, people change when you have money, if you get there you'll find out. Here it doesn't matter who or what you are, everyone treats you like a faggot. It's great.

[Anonymous No.21058909]

>>21057579
>As someone who used to attend Buddhist temples
Wow, what sect? I'm Nichiren Buddhist and used to go to the Chicago temple a lot when I used to live in the Midwest http://www.nstmyogyoji.org/

[Anonymous No.21058954]

>>21058765
I don't own a house and for the last two years have rented a 80m2 / 870sqft apartment for 800 bucks per month. My car is a used 10k Ford.

[Anonymous No.21059058]

>>21057445
To reword what I meant by "not as amazing as you think but also the greatest thing ever", a lot of it is perspective. You have to live life with perspective. Remember at any moment, you could be struck down by a heart attack/seizure, a nuke could hit, you could have been born a cockroach or even worse a nigger, learn to appreciate every moment of your existence. This doesn't mean just settle, but find ways to get the most out of the time you're given.

[Anonymous No.21059098]

>>21057445
>very based

[Anonymous No.21059100]

>>21058909
Nice, I attended Kadampa which is supposed to be direct lineage from Buddha Shakiamuni.

I think it's funny how there's a dozen different branches and they're all separated by their own concept of emptiness and ultimate attainment. There's also some branches who refuse to learn emptiness because apparently that was only meant for Buddhas

[Anonymous No.21059231]

>>21057321
>By that, I mean owning their own land/property, enough passive income to never have to wage again, and a maximum comfy life.
This isn't hard to do you idiot. It's called owning your own house and then filing for disability which at maximum will give you $3000 chained to inflation so it will always increase and effectively doubles if you have 2 kids.

[Anonymous No.21059264]

>>21059231
>$3000/month

[Anonymous No.21059305]

>>21059100
Different sutras are more important to different sects. Nichiren Buddhism is all about the Lotus Sutra.

Also my specific sect is Nichiren Shoshu which is basically the main/orthodox branch, and is separate from Soka Gakkai which is the heretical spinoff branch. Some things never change...

[Anonymous No.21059590]

>>21059305
Very interesting. Just read up a little about it and Nichiren Buddhism is orthodox but from the 3rd gen Buddhism, originally founded around the 1200's. Not to start a Buddhism argument kek but Shakyamuni is 1st gen from around 400 BC, Kadampa claims to be the direct lineage. All very confusing but in the end it's all about having a clear mind and realizing you're the only cause of your own suffering. When I make it I'd love to get back and also learn about other types of Buddhism

[Anonymous No.21059952]

>>21059590
Yeah, I just meant the orthodox branch of Nichiren

[Anonymous No.21060089]

Been here since mt gox days. Sold a portion of my BTC for 7 figures. Still got a good stack left.
Still working, but instead of wage slaving I run my own software company. I now work on projects I find interesting. I dont really care if they make money as I dont really need money any more. Maybe someday one of the apps will catch on and I can expand the company. But my BTC profits have given me the freedom to follow my interests

[Anonymous No.21060531]

>>21057409
Depressed mentally ill wage slave

[Anonymous No.21060600]

>>21058516
I have a 10k portfolio from $175 and regular mining proceeds. Gamble with your 50. But once you get a sizable portfolio guard it with your life.

[Anonymous No.21060682]

>>21057579
you never leave /biz/, fren. you may go on a break for a year tops, then you'll be back. having billions won't change that.

[Anonymous No.21060709]

>>21057677
Just curious, but why don't you diversify to cryptos more likely to outperform BTC and Monero? Like at least ETH and LINK.

[Anonymous No.21060744]

>>21058907

[Anonymous No.21060773]

>>21060682
I was btard till I left in 2011. I'm a biz newfag from 2019.. left 4chan for 7 years and here I am again fuck

[Anonymous No.21060805]

>>21060709
When you've large amounts of capital you can ride the safe gains. Bitcoin is minimum 10x from here. Likely 15 or 20x.
Yes altcoins might outperform but are 10 times more likely to go to 0.

[Anonymous No.21060879]

>>21060773
yeah i also started in various boards and left 4chan for years before being told abut /biz/.
you can leave other boards and never look back. you cannot leave /biz/.

[Anonymous No.21060892]

>>21058813
Lol, it’s easy to say in hindsight but there’s a reason people here don’t buy at the top even if they’re confident it will keep going up. Risk/reward. Putting all your students loans would be so insanely risky.

[Anonymous No.21061010]

Having the ability to stop browsing biz is the ultimate make-it sign

[Anonymous No.21061022]

>>21057321
I probably barely qualify, but here goes:

I joined the Army at 19, got out at 23 with a 2,000 a month disability payment. Invested my deployment earnings into a small multi-family home which netted about 1200 a month after expenses. Waited a few years until the housing market recovered, doubled my money on the house, bought a newer, bigger multi-family home and loaned the ~150k left out to a real estate broker for 6% APR giving me another 750 a month in passive income for the next two years.

I make about 4200 a month without getting out of bed, and I don't have to pay rent/mortgage because my tenants do it for me. I don't really feel like I've made it yet, but I probably could live in relative comfort for the rest of my life without working again.

[Anonymous No.21061024]

>>21060892
This is true and I have no regrets, still have a 6k stack of link and going to accumulate 200k pnk, I’ll probably flip the pnk to link when it hits a dollar, assuming link hasn’t passed 20 yet that’ll leave me with almost 20k link, I’d be content to ride out the next few years with that

[Anonymous No.21061123]

>>21058516
i started with about that as well may 2017 was able to get 7k into the market by the end of the year, currently holding $150k
keep it up

[Anonymous No.21061404]

started with 10k
I now have 400k,
I live in a country where the average wage is like 900€ or some shit. I could already have a comfy life with this money, but I'm going after a couple of millions.

[Anonymous No.21061528]

>>21057579
>>21057707
These are good reminders for everyone to enjoy the process, the journey is what makes it fun. Dont get so wrapped up in making it that you lose sight of the fun that it takes to get there. Make friends, enjoy family, and try to do the right thing on a daily basis and have a good time.

[Anonymous No.21061614]

>>21061404
Care to elaborate on the process?

[Anonymous No.21061617]

>>21058516
Kek. I'm actually a bizlet with 200k+. Do you have any advice regarding what I should and shouldn't do to not fuck up this bull run and my life and relationships with others afterwards?

[Anonymous No.21061969]

>>21061614
october-november 2017 was when I started.
first like 5k, then 3k, then 2k, bought a bunch of shitcoins (and link), everything mooned, had like 60-70k top, then it went down fast and I sold everything for a bigger link stack and been riding it ever since. Sold like 5-8% of my linkies for some defi projects that have mooned like crazy too lately.
I also bought more link in december 2019 but lost it all margin trading (around 5-6k$)

[Anonymous No.21062214]

>>21058907
Truly the American dream. A place where anons have no reason to tell the truth yet also no reason to lie.

[Anonymous No.21062247]

>>21057321
I would doubt it. 4chan skews very young. Most people dont come close to making it until at least their late 30s

[Anonymous No.21062621]

>>21062247
You’d be surprised, this place predates modern internet.

[Anonymous No.21063154]

>>21061010
you never leave this place

[Anonymous No.21063224]

If they made it, they wouldnt be on biz. Hence ur question will never be honestly answered.

[Anonymous No.21063354]

>>21063224
see
>>21063154

>t. made it with millions
also, >>21057445 is right

[Anonymous No.21063763]

>>21058907
This
Poor or rich, always faggot

[Anonymous No.21063953]

I'd consider myself about 1/2 made it. I own my own property outright and have two flats I rent out. Probably around £500k net worth. Crypto is just a hobby for me really, don't have serious amounts of money invested (portfolio is about £10k atm)

If it hits £50k I'll be gone, that's deposits on another couple of buy-to-lets for me.

[Anonymous No.21063995]

>>21063953
Should say as well, my region of UK is very cheap to live in. Don't need massive sums to live comfortably.

[Anonymous No.21064023]

>>21063953
>£
Based.

Is buy-to-let actually comfy? Do you use an agency? I have a friend who is a landlord and he fucking hates it. Constantly getting called for meaningless shit and he says maintenance costs a bomb.

[Anonymous No.21064026]

>>21058387
I imagine as an architect you must have plenty of structures in your life

[Anonymous No.21064542]

>>21064023
I do it through an agency. Maintenance isn't that bad. So far I've made a point of replacing showers and kitchen white goods as soon as I buy a place, generally only runs a couple of grand. Those are the things that are most likely to give trouble so knowing their brand new makes things a bit easier.

[Anonymous No.21064623]

>>21061123
put 10k in

have around 200k now

Lost a lot down the road

[Anonymous No.21064653]

>>21057445
Similar story here. I work from home and make like 20 a year and my wife has like 2000 in passive income. All i gotta do is keep building my divvy prot and before i know it pure financial freedom is almost here

[Anonymous No.21064960]

>>21057321
I'm getting there bros. I'm sitting on about $1.2m USD since post-covid drop/pre-halving. Biggest gains from uniswap shitcoins. Gonna gamble it all on a potential GBR.

[Anonymous No.21065044]

Lots of fagots ITT

You understand that you have made it when you drive around your hometown in a lambo, have your private bodyguard and 3 female qt 3.14 escorts around you, give free drinks to everyone in the club, all your highschool classmates are envious of you and the ex classmate girls are begging you to hook up with them and you reject them.

UNLIMITED POWER!!!

[Anonymous No.21065086]

>>21060709
Imho ETH and Link are unlikely to outperform Monero. Monero has it like 3x easier to rise than them.

>>21060805
This. I might look at a few defi projects but gambling it out is up to you little ones.

[Anonymous No.21065119]

>>21057321
We have this same thread every fucking week. Just shut the fuck up already.

[Anonymous No.21065280]

>>21060531
This
>t. Depressed mentally ill wage slave

[Anonymous No.21065463]

>>21057409
>implying
Being a neet has already prepared me for making. I've pretty much already been in a state of making it for the past 4 years. Literally the only problem I have in my life is the guilt I feel for being a burden on my parents. Once I move out and have enough money I'll be confident enough to follow any passions I might have. Being one boot away from homelessness has been a detriment to my entire life on a psychological level. How can I be myself when one wrong move means i'm homeless. How can I happily study programming when I know i'm only doing it to be a wage slave?

[Anonymous No.21065744]

>>21057321
Hey brothers, I am 23 and haven't had to work in over a year now. I went all in on LINK in 2018, I bought my first stack right after the ICO in late 2017.

Since then I have made some good trades, making the majority of my money in late 2019 and early 2020. The past few months have been the best ever, we are truly entering a new paradigm for crypto as it is getting its first true use case (defi)

I have moved about 1/6 of my net worth into liquidity pools and yield farming and this nets me over 100k a year currently and for me that's enough to do what I want.

I am currently travelling around Europe in a rental car and staying in airbnbs, I make more in a few trades than it would cost me to live like this for a year. I have made about 280k since last month.

Current biggest bag is BNT. I have made it. I own 1 company and am working on new project currently, neither of these have netted me any income, I am just trying to improve the world. 1488

AMA.

[Anonymous No.21065786]

>>21058721
How the hell did you get 20 million linkies? Even at the lowest price that would be millions of dollars? And how do you plan to get to 90 million? Or are those dollar amounts worth of link?

[Anonymous No.21065904]

>>21065463
Your boomer parents put you in such a poor position in life (if you're anything like me, they convinced you to take out sizeable loans at a young age, insisting college will "surely get you a job") that you shouldn't feel bad about being a drag on their life.
Yes, they fed me when I was young, put a roof over my head and helped me with a few things throughout my life, but they also didn't take a stand against shitskins corrupting all of the young mating partners I could have had, they didn't tell feminists to fuck off more, resulting in me, again, having no mating partners, they didn't vote or protest differently, enticing lower taxes or other financial systems that would have been less detrimental to me, all sorts of shit.
Boomers sold us out to enrich themselves and if you've ever been around a boomer selling a house or listening to them talk about their 401k, I don't expect you to fully grasp how much they continue, to this day, to try and fuck the younger generations out of anything close to the convenience they experienced when they were this young.

No, I don't hate my parents or any other boomer. I respect them and understand that they did what they thought was best, often poisoned by the guise of promise of prosperity late in to life,
At the same time, I know fully that they deserve to have a zoom/mill mooching off of them for not better preparing me by educating themselves and involving themselves in my life more earnestly or earlier.
I simply think this is fair and a worthwhile struggle currently, mainly because this means that me mooching off of them will, despite my ill feelings toward them, help provide them with better security as they age, as I'll be there to help them in ways they weren't capable of helping me when we were both younger.

As their children, we're destined to abolish what they've created, refine it, and reintroduce it to them later so that we can both prosper whether or not they think both parties should.

Don't feel bad.

[Anonymous No.21065929]

>>21057677
How the fuck do you have 1 Megadollar in silver?
Do you own it in ETF's or did you go through the silver stacking hurdles?

I own 4.4 MegaEuro but only have 2.4% in silver because I got tired of stacking.
Was fiddling around with ETF's but after dumping in february didnt get back in.

[Anonymous No.21066025]

>>21065786
just check the etherscan, He is larping like a fucking faggot.

[Anonymous No.21066110]

>>21064960
Based. What are your top 3 hodl coins?

[Anonymous No.21066395]

>>21061617
Bancor if you don't have any yet. It will probably be the biggest gainer in the upcoming bull.

Read some ancient philosophers and don't compare yourself to your peers + stay away from (((their))) media in all of its forms.

[Anonymous No.21066535]

>>21058907
>people change when you have money
Ive kept this sage gem advice ever since my mcjob supervisor told me about crypto back in 2016.

> NEVER let anyone know you have money, hide your power level.

Except maybe a close trusted friend who share a similar passion in investing, generally don't tell anyone.
Ive been blessed to have had a childhood friend tag along with me and we both grew in wealth together. In a weird way, there's no money between us, its just a tool of convenience. Just little shit, like randomly paying each others bills or gifting a random business class plane ticket overseas for a week away.

Wouldnt trade it for the world. We could be both broke and still be mates. In that way I'm absolutely blessed.

[Anonymous No.21066620]

>>21066535
Wait until just one of you goes broke

[Anonymous No.21066665]

>>21065904
My parents had no active role in my life. I was raised by the TV. I hardly feel bad about living there. They spend money on useless and they can barely do anything outside of their jobs. I saved their basement from water damage, landscaped their property, and kept the house clean. My family is borderline retarded without me. Growing up has made me realize just how clueless all of them are. I can't say I feel guilty. Any progress I made was of my own volition. They did jack shit.

[Anonymous No.21066808]

>>21057321
A couple nigger slaves would be nice too

[Anonymous No.21066934]

>>21058400
Similar.
Bit more comfy start. Got raised by upper middle class parents to save and invest.
pre 2004: stash away anniversary/christmas money in bank
2004: 15k. Dad sits me/siblings around table with a bunch of gold coins on it. Says he has invested for us but deems us old enough to make own choices. Recommends us gold but is our own decision. Buy some.
2006: 20k Go to college, buy first stock. Airbus for 1500. sell it a year later at a loss.
2011: Gold peaks, I peak at 50k
2012: Sis buys house, dad chips in 100k, gives me 100k in gold says to save till I buy house. Thx dad.
2013: 150k Now working, saving 500 a month, find out about bitcoin at 180 dollar. Buy 8.
2014: 200k Wew lad, this btc thing went over 1000 but it was clearly a hype, sell all at 850
2015: 200k Hey btc is down! Buy 21 BTC back at 350. Start trading.
2016: 200k + 30 BTC Fuck this trading, I cant sleep. It's not worth it. Start programming a bot at cryptotrader, rent out the bot for crypto in return get up to 1k/month in crypto
early 2017: 200k + 60k in crypto. This bot trading going well, feel things are about to blow. Buy 12500 LTC at 4 dollar and hodl.
early 2017: fugg LTC at 12 getting stressed, sell some.
Middle 2017: FUGGG LTC at 30, sell some more.
Late middle 2017: Blimey LTC at 50 sell down to 6000 LTC. Decide to quit job at end 2017.
Late 2017: Charlie Lee sells
Late 2017: LTC drops 50% from 330 to 160. Puke. No worries mate, it's going to do exactly like in 2013. Meaning bounce 90% of the way back up. It does. Sell all at 280-310 during an all nighter I'll never forget.
Late 2017 2.2 million. Job finished, burned out by crypto + job combination.
2018 2.4 million. road trips with gf and diversify, get on to /biz/ to see the daily wojak panic and chuckle.
2019 2.6 million. try to set up an investment company but banks dont want anything to do with crypto.
March 2020: 1.5 million. Corona dip. Just buy more shit.
August 2020: 4.4 million. Everything magically tripled. Kewl.

[Anonymous No.21066982]

>>21057321
The people who invested in ETH early on used to talk about how they basically became millionares over night, and I doubt a lot of them are still here.

[Anonymous No.21067017]

>tfw £2k net worth
>nothing in crypto; sold 500 linkies at £2.50 for a ~£120 profit just so i could make the rent

who else /never going to make it/?

[Anonymous No.21067171]

>>21065044
People like you will always be poor.

[Anonymous No.21067244]

>>21065044
Do you know the dollar amount related to this level of made it?
I know, but I'll keep it a secret for you.

[Anonymous No.21067311]

>>21058673

Suggestions on where to put that money?

[Anonymous No.21067318]

>>21067244
ok don't tell him but tell me pls

[Anonymous No.21067321]

>>21067017
Hooo boy I know that feeling.

You have to know what it your "critical mass" so that is starts being profitable being left alone.

That 120 pounds would be worth much more in 5 years (or less) if positioned correctly than it is now. But you need a roof over your head now right?

Find a side hustle which proceeds go directly to crypto. Save your wage income for the essentials.

Personally, I.
>sold photos (stock website, prints)
>flipped cameras
> made furniture curiosities and sold it to boomers for 1000s of dollars
> taught photography classes.
> sold antique lenses to hipster gearfaggots.
> buy antiques from 3rd world countries to sell to upper class Karens in gated communities.

Chris Guillebeau's 100 side hustles is a good read to get some inspirations.

Chin up anon, you gonna make it.

[Anonymous No.21067544]

>>21057707
>>21058211

Same thing with Dopamine for me too. Its weird. Im definitely less happy more frequently snd get less excited about things, but also less anxious too. Feels cold and calm, with bits of self loathing when i completely waste a day away.

It is hard tho. I got fppd earlier, saw how busy the waitress was flying round, makes around a tenner an hour. I went up about 10k on BNT, plus close my 4.5k long i had on it from 1.90. So paper gains of 11.5k, with 1.5k realised. All i did was click a few button

Its odd. Means nothing

[Anonymous No.21067757]

>>21057321
Haven't made it this good yet but i'm hoping to by years end or next year.
I have a great job, condo, drive a Tesla, have a motorcycle, travel a lot.
Have a business i'm working on and have good investments. Hopefully things work out and i can live to the standard i want to live.

[Anonymous No.21067904]

>>21058765
>>21058954
God damn anon.
You lived exactly the same like me.
>>21066934
Also went back into gold miners.
Should add probably this march dip was only down to 2 millionish.
Own a used Lexus, bit more flashy but just 25k.
God damn I suspect you're in Europe?
Would love to have a drink with you.
Have so few people who I can share my experience with.
It's probably not wise to contact strangers after letting them know you're worth 7 figures.
But you can contact me at [e-mail]
If you sign a message with a big boy crypto account we can both prove we 'made' it and arent necessarily hitmen.

[Anonymous No.21067968]

Bought 30 laying hens, built a coop out of scrap materials, steal the compost bags from resteraunt bins, 0$/month upkeep, making 10-15$ a day off them. Total startup 80$. Paid for in the first week and a half. Nothing but bank bros. I made it

[Anonymous No.21067985]

>>21066110
I'll be entering the bullrun with my positions mostly in BTC/ETH/Cardano. I'm done with moonshots now, I just want a safe 10x and then I'll be out for good. oldfag tho, I'll be here forever.

[Anonymous No.21068176]

>>21057321
>Has anyone from /biz/ ACTUALLY made it?
I'm sure of it, just by the law of large numbers. There's bound to be some people who hit jackpots among such a large userbase. What I'd be more interested in is whether a fund of everyone who frequents /biz/ pooled together is up or down, and if up whether /biz/ beat the market average.

And I'm seconding what a lot of people have said - it's all relative. Problems and worries just rubberband with you as you climb the wealth ladder. 10 years ago 6 figures was unimaginably large to me. Now I own several rental properties and my net worth is in the high six figures, but nothing really changed. I still think I'm a struggling member of the middle class, frugal by necessity. Owning RE comes with such a host of problems and worries that I often gripe and curse. From the perspective of me 10 years ago I've fucking made it and surely I must be living a dream. From my current perspective I've just shifted the same annoyances and worries a few levels higher.
Like other posters have said, it's all just in your mind. We're not built to be happy, we just keep chasing disappointment and worries. In absolute terms I'm probably well on my way to having made it. In relative terms it doesn't feel anything like it. That's why you get these insane takes from wealthy people - they've just naturally lost touch with what it means to wageslave, what it means to struggle to pay for food or rent.

[Anonymous No.21068192]

>>21067985
Kinda feel the same. I'm gonna ride LINK for the Defi bubble and then I'm out. When I say out, I mean cashed out, get bored after a few months and then go searching for the next one.

[Anonymous No.21068421]

>>21068176
This is why I always try to maintain that perspective. Sometimes I sit out back with my dog and 2 cats (dog's mine, cats from a cunt ex but they're pretty based for cats) and watch them play together, and think about where I was nearly broke a year ago, and where I am now well over 6 figures with a clear path to 7, and I just smile. I'm just happy, because I know where I could be if things hadn't worked out, or I hadn't made the plays necessary to be where I am. When you can appreciate what you have instead of only think of what you don't, you'll have made it.

[Anonymous No.21069218]

>>21068421
>When you can appreciate what you have instead of only think of what you don't, you'll have made it.
For me it's less about worrying what I miss out or what I still need - just managing what I have is sometimes a huge pain in the ass (again - it feels that way, but it comes nowhere *close* to wageslaving). There is no such thing as a free lunch - any investment generating income is by definition risky (as the risk premium is the only way to make a profit). You'll always be at the whims of inflation/markets/recessions/tenants/management firms/etc (pick your poison). Even just preserving wealth is a struggle. You can be as Buddhist as you want (as someone suggested above), you still need money to support your lifestyle. So caring or not, annoyed or not - you better babysit those income generating investments.

Even if you transcend physical needs and work on self-actualization and moral causes - there's this interesting hypothetical I've read years ago that I can't get out of my head:
>You have the opportunity to work an unpleasant task 6 days a week for 10 hours a day, which would earn you 50 million dollars a week after taxes. Once you quit, you can never go back. How long do you work?
The knee-jerk reaction is "1 week" and prompty fucking off into retirement. But the more you think about it, the more complicated it gets. Do you realize how much power 50M conveys? Do you realize how much good you could do with an excess 50M a week, how many people you could profoundly touch and help? What research you could fund? There might be a reasonable case to be made for *never* quitting, as a steady influx of 50M is just too damn important compared to suffering through a shitty job 6 days a week. I think this hypothetical touches upon a similar question/issue. Can you ever truly stop, cash out and retire without it being tantamount to giving up/suicide?

[Anonymous No.21069813]

>>21065904
Fucking incel lol feminists lol. UNDERSTAND THE ONLY REASON YOU DONT HAVE A GF IS BECAUSE YOU ARENT ATTRACTIVE

[Anonymous No.21070041]

>>21058789
Pull 100 to usd... Play it safe amigo