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>> No.20824118

I must embrace the clown. A KDOK call and a bunch of cheap KDOK puts. There is no way in hell that crabs is there?

>> No.20824126

>>20824077
how do i into stonks?

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>>20824118
The IV is too expensive to properly do strangles at this point. You lose money even if it reaches like $6. You might as well just sell really low strike puts for some premium instead and close them out as IV dies down OR if Kodak moons higher.

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>>20824126

>> No.20824216
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I'm new to robinhood. How do I trade options? Support says there's supposed to be a button in the bottom right or something

>> No.20824224

there will be crash on 20million cases

>> No.20824236

>>20824224
Tell us more sage

>> No.20824254

>>20824224
>muh cases

>> No.20824258

Can any one teach an anon to do options real quickly? I just want to bet that (Company) price will go up to $x by x date. Why the fuck are there like 12 choices to make, vertical/calendar call/put and all this shit.

>> No.20824265

What time is it in America right now

>> No.20824278

>>20824139
Probably. The 2.5p are 0.05 up to September. I feel like buying one out of principle.

>> No.20824308

>>20824265
2AM East coast.

>> No.20824363

I did I think my best trade yesterday, bought 5 otm $tsm calls with 1030$ in the morning, sold 3 at their high for 1130 at 2pm, got my money back and 100$, and still have 2 calls left worth about 500$ to let ride for the next two months. Did all this while at work lol

>> No.20824372

>>20824308
Look at silver futures, middle of the night gets smashed down

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>>20824308
It’s 11:03 pm in God’s country. Arizona

>> No.20824386

So I bought AMD at 2.00 like you guys told me to.
Now what do I buy?

>> No.20824415

>>20824258
Buy to open calls if you think it'll go up, buy puts if you think it'll go down . Sell to close those options to make all that money.

But here's a secret, you'll probably lose and their value goes down over time if it stays flat

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>>20824077
heil QQQ

>>20824216
>I'm new to robinhood. How do I trade options?
ready to lose all your money kid?

>> No.20824466

>>20824258
Rookie mistakes are to buy puts or calls near events that cause spikes in volatility like earnings.
Also to think that option buying is somehow less risky than option selling.
Tip: If you have the money for the drawdown and believe that X is destined for a secular rise than you sell puts at your target entry price instead of buying calls.

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>>20824372
We'll see of this attempt sticks or no. Three times since the Monday spasm, hourly candle as done a dive only to be instantly bought up one hour later. These things do make me nervous and are the reason I took half profit yesterday but it's not clear at all yet whether a reversal is taking place.

>> No.20824635

>>20824532
also it depends on the USD. to be clear. this evening jolt down roughly coincided with jolt up on DXY and USDEUR.

>> No.20824673

Rug pull when

>> No.20824677

>>20824077
>sitting in my bed daydreaming about how perfect my life would be if I bought 10,000 shares of KODK last week
I would buy a G wagon and a new computer, buy a house with cash and build a home gym and an entire room dedicated to trading with TVs and charts and shit on the TVs. What a life I would be living

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>>20824673
when you give up and go long.

>> No.20824685

Precum market when

>> No.20824698

>>20824685
1 hour 18 minute

>> No.20824700

>>20824677
Or you could bought options and be a millionaire today

>> No.20824704

>>20824077
Get a job faggit.

>> No.20824709

>>20824698
>18 minute
38

>> No.20824729

>>20824430
This. Actually did some homework and still lost all my money on options. Do not pick expirations dates too close or start buying some rope.

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>>20824682
Do the Boggs communicate with anime characters??

>> No.20824740

>>20824077
I predict Kodak will hit 80 tomorrow then crash to 60 eod
Because to many boomers will tell their sons and grandkids that trumped shilled it so it must be good we are going to be rich I am buying 300 shares and selling when it hits some unrealistic number like 3k

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>>20824734
Yes.

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>>20824698
>>20824709


OMG SO DUMB. LOOK AT THIS BIG DUMB GUY LOL

>> No.20824763

>>20824118
Go to r/wallstreetbets
This general is for buying and holding stocks

>> No.20824771

>>20824734
Do they communicate with nicobullygf? Yes
Do they communicate THROUGH anime girls? Presently unknown.

>> No.20824782

Gonna buy a bunch of HQU and keep it as long as VIX stays below 30

>> No.20824806

OPK earnings tomorrow! My guess is that it will start in the green but finish down 0.8%.

I'd say screencap but I don't even know hjow so just remember da game players.

>> No.20824823

>don't even need to look at futures anymore since they are just inversing the DXY

>> No.20824861

>>20824763
and p'n'd's, meme stocks, divvies, and educated political/economic discussion

>> No.20824929
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>DXY FALLING OH NO USD IN FREEFALL OH NO FED LOSING OH NO
>protip: dxy is 60% euro, broad usd index (the real usd index) is usd against all major currencies, fed is trying to push usd lower to save the em and ironically eu too (just check what bonds are they buying)

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>>20824757

>> No.20825035

>>20824953
That looks like the angel girl from disgaea (sp?)
Is it the same artist?

>> No.20825056

>>20824077
WHY DIDN'T YOU FAGGOTS TELL ME ABOUT KODAK

>> No.20825068

>>20825056
Check the archives. Some glow in the dark cia nigger unironically did try to tell us. Two posts with kodak cameras.

>> No.20825071

>>20825035
it's some pixiv fanart drawer person, I think. Name of pop_(electromagneticwave) on booru.

>> No.20825077

>>20825056
have you been in here the past 2 days?

>> No.20825083

>>20825068
no shit?

>> No.20825089

>>20825056
95% of /biz/ were telling people to buy puts it was free money yesterday

>> No.20825097

>>20825056
well the huuuge vol on monday, kinda was the giveaway

>> No.20825099

>>20824415

Thanks for the response. So I would choose say Buy to open then the price I think it will reach and then the date I think it will reach it at and I can ignore everything else?

>> No.20825106

>>20825089
My money is still stuck in airlines anyways because I'm stupid

>> No.20825123

>>20825068
Wait what did someone screenshot that

>> No.20825131

>>20824929
who are you quoting?

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Chyna

>> No.20825159

>>20825089

so just do the opposite of what /biz/ says?

>>20825106
my money is in oil, wkhs and Sqqq

>> No.20825160

>>20825106
I think it will pump to 80 tomorrow because boomers herd trump talk about kodak and they had to get a loan to buy 30k worth to retire when it hits 1k

>> No.20825162

https://cloud.google.com/blog/products/ai-machine-learning/google-breaks-ai-performance-records-in-mlperf-with-worlds-fastest-training-supercomputer

>> No.20825172

>>20825099
yes but keep in mind your calls lose value over time, so even if it hits the target price on expiration you'll lose money
I'd suggest looking up a video on options to at least know the basics, it's very easy to lose money if you don't know what you're doing, even if its just simply buying calls/puts

>> No.20825174

>>20825131
the first line every goldbug/doomer/retard, second: just was a fuckup, wasn't meant to be green txt

>> No.20825176

>>20825143
who is oceania?????

>> No.20825190

>>20825068
Never mind I think I do remember seeing that and was like wtf why are you shilling a old camera company I thought was delisted already

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>>20825162
TPU v4: Google’s fourth-generation Tensor Processing Unit chip
Google’s fourth-generation TPU ASIC offers more than double the matrix multiplication TFLOPs of TPU v3, a significant boost in memory bandwidth, and advances in interconnect technology. Google’s TPU v4 MLPerf submissions take advantage of these new hardware features with complementary compiler and modeling advances. The results demonstrate an average improvement of 2.7 times over TPU v3 performance at a similar scale in the last MLPerf Training competition. Stay tuned, more information on TPU v4 is coming soon

>> No.20825206

>>20825172
no to mention the guy from wsb who lost 700k
(negative)and commited suicide (he traded options)

>> No.20825227

SILVER AAAAAAAAAA

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>>20824929
DXY falling is not as bad as it going really high, sovereign debt crises among foreign countries could get fugged
>>20825176
Dude we've been at war with them for decades, are you okay?

>> No.20825246

>>20825176
Tonga and Tuvalu. Also Fiji.

>> No.20825261

>>20825238

I read 1984. I'm wondering if there is a real place called Oceania.

>> No.20825270

>>20825206
If you are greedy enough to gamble your life savings you might as well do it quick and then kill yourself. Prevents a lot of suffering.

>> No.20825276

>>20825172

Any vids you recommend or just search for "options basics".

So would a smaller time window help with the diminishing value of the option over time or is it % based?

>> No.20825279

>>20825238
>DXY falling is not as bad as it going really high, sovereign debt crises among foreign countries could get fugged
yep, some of those countries are already fucked to the brim, wouldnt want to be in brazil right now

>> No.20825291

So is tomorrow bullish, bearish, or crabish? Q2 report is gonna be bad but noone knows how bad.

>> No.20825294

>>20825261
nice b8 m8

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>>20825294
I don't like your tone. I'm serious about Oceania.

>> No.20825312

>>20825291
Oh boy, you know it's going to be awful. Clown market will probably ignore it.

>> No.20825332

>>20825291
For the last month everyone dumps on positive earnings and moons on bad news. It's all fucking stupid.

>> No.20825350

>>20825332
How is my SQQQ gonna do tomorrow?

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>>20825350
flat most likely, in your favor otherwise, earnings do not come out until after close.

>> No.20825418

>>20825276
I watched this one https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SD7sw0bf1ms when I started. I liked it cause I could follow along on the RH app and he goes a little more in depth than other videos. It's an hour long but worth it imo

>> No.20825448

btw, someone shorted 50 5.00 kodk calls on monday

>> No.20825478

>>20825448
What does that mean? I know what a short/call is. What does “50” mean

>> No.20825490

Amazon earnings predictions?

>> No.20825498

>>20825490
Whatever makes the stock surpass the 2nd peak so I can make $5 for once

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>ahhhhhh that first coffee of the morning

Feels so good man, but where /coffeesquad/ at???!?

>> No.20825531

>>20825478
Each call is 100 shares zoomer. Add it up.

>> No.20825542

>>20825478
50 contracts, he lost a bit of money

>> No.20825560

KMDA, your chance to get in a vaccine hype meme somewhat early

>> No.20825572

>>20825490
Better than expected but it’ll dump cuz priced in

>> No.20825599

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>>20825227
Yeeeeah I'm probably going to get stopped out at open if this doesn't turn around before then.

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>>20825510
almost forgot about premarket thanks for the warning

got my milky matcha

>> No.20825669

Hahahahahaha I owned 150 shares in Kodak and I made $4800 profit

Feels fucking good man

>> No.20825675

Does Kodak have any more life in it or is it going to crash hard? It’s just become available on my shitty app and I am tempted to jump in.

>> No.20825678

Futures absolutely cratering

>> No.20825685

Today will be ogre. Just look at futures.

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>>20824372

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>>20825395

>> No.20825727

Robert Frost is the pump and dump champ. OPK is the choice for this month.

>> No.20825728

>>20825675
Maybe 1 or two days left of life in it then pull also remember who is shilling it Donald trump he will get an army of boomers buying it with their loans they got today

>> No.20825748

Why futures dumping? GDP scares?

>> No.20825757

>>20825748
VW pulls DAX down

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>futures

>> No.20825789

>oil is shitting itself now
????

>> No.20825832

>>20825789
How many points down

>> No.20825842

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

>> No.20825859

>>20824372
The real JewPMorgan hours

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>>20825780
are they blood red or just regular red

>> No.20825877

>>20825490
I eagerly await the opportunity to buy tqqq < 100

>> No.20825880

>>20825842
-0.36
-0.87%

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>sold out of silver at a very small loss
whew, thank-
>still in oil
OH SHIT

>> No.20825883

>>20825675
Learn how to read tea leaves.

>> No.20825884

GREEN DAY INCOMING

>> No.20825885

>>20824077
Now I can’t sleeping am chugging coffee for once I am all In the market instead of sitting on 50% cash

>> No.20825886

>>20825490
Anything but a big beat will cause the whole market to poo itself

>> No.20825897

>>20825885
>coffee

Anon. It’s 12:35am. Explain yourself

>> No.20825911

lol, futures collapsing.
Imagine not selling covered calls.

>> No.20825912

turns out precious metal bros got too cocky

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>>20825897
>>20825885
thanks for reminding me, coffee time

>>20825911
Luckily, I did.

>> No.20825930

>>20825884
WAKE ME UP, WHEN SEPTEMBER ENDS

>> No.20825936

>>20825897
I just i am 100% long and the futures dump has me worried and my alarm is shit and doesn’t wake me up at 6 am

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Not even surprised anymore

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>>20825936
What are you “long” on? What’s the game? Portfolio???

>> No.20825986

>>20825897
Shut the fuck up, nigga, it's 4:40 in the god damn morning.

>> No.20826001

>>20825986
No, it's 9:40 and I'm commuting to work. My coffee is waiting tho

>> No.20826002

>>20825886
Cheapies Friday

>> No.20826005

>>20825976
Kodak msft

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>>20825941
I'm selling remainder at open. Fat bear sitting on chart now. Hopefully there are enough buyers to hold 22.75 before open so I don't get too gouged on the gap down. Buyers are coming in now pushing it back to high 23 area so maybe.

>> No.20826112

>>20825941

>sold yesterday

Pretty satisfied I read that correctly but less so since I lost fuckloads of money yesterday doing other dumb shit .

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And we're back again at yesterday's futures open.

>> No.20826299

>>20826005
Are you holding those? Or making some long play?

>> No.20826331

Hope you bought the manipulated overnight dip

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>Shell (NYSE:RDS.A): Q2 GAAP EPS of -$2.33 misses by $2.09.
>Revenue of $32.5B (-64.1% Y/Y) misses by $21.2B.
>In a note to shareholders published June 30, which came shortly after a similar announcement by its peer BP, Shell said it now anticipated significantly lower oil and gas prices over the next 30 years.

JUST

>> No.20826348

Why is it so dead tonight.

>> No.20826374
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KLANG KALANG KLANG KLANG KLANG

Premarket has opened and it's weird. Big move on minuscule volume for Qualcomm (green). Don't know what's going on there and will check back in a few more minutes for clarification. Shinies are destabilizing. Boat feels imbalanced. I don't like this feel.
https://www.marketwatch.com/tools/screener/premarket

>> No.20826378

>>20826346
Between RDS, DB, and Wirecard I imagine there are a lot of european pension funds that are eating shit.

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>>20826346
time for tariffs and import bans, golden oil bull run soon

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>>20826374
APA suddenly +13% wtf

>> No.20826407

>>20826378
I forgot VW for some reason. What the hell Germany

>> No.20826408

Is everyone in europe selling to buy nasdaq at open?

>> No.20826410

>>20825780
Short the shit and shut up.

>> No.20826423

>>20826299
I am longing msft since it will survive any crash and recover I am swinging Kodak tomorrow close to open

>> No.20826426

>>20825884
Do you really believe this?

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>>20826346
>over the next 30 years
wut?

>> No.20826472

My all-in KTOV bags are getting heavier and heavier
Was I wrong about this? Is it not a life changing company?

>> No.20826485

>>20826472
>biopennys
You sign up for the long bagholds with those.

>> No.20826497

>>20826472
KEK
I've dropped my bags a month ago. Cut my losses.

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>>20826374
Hmm. I’m gonna continue to baghold SQQQ maybe until closing bell Friday.

youtube.com/watch?v=d-84UJpYFRM

>> No.20826506

tqqq p30 09/18
who is with me ?
also i am considering just trading 3 or 4 companies only with options, learn them by heart, everything they do and dont, and just trade them every day , anybody have any suggestions?
IV is still high on SPY, think of start building bearish call verticals

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>>20826472
>bagholding a penny stock
Even James Cameron can't invent a drone to reach those depths

>> No.20826514

>>20826472
Just buy more

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>>20826346
>Holding oil
>2020
>>20826407
VW is paying a 4% dividend and stable. They are fine.
Also Germans dont have much stock pension funds. They have savings accounts and bonds and whatnot. Depressing really.

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>>20826500
rat call frequencies. I did not expect to learn this information at 2am on a Thursday morning.

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Is this a bullish flag for TSLA?

>> No.20826603
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>>20826537
>VW is paying a 4% dividend and stable. They are fine.
*Fine as an "boomers are happy".
Not that I would ever invest in that shit myself.

>> No.20826614

>>20826587
Bearish for TSLA
Bullish for DIS

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>>20826556
Don’t worry anon. I got your back when it comes to learning useless shit at 2am.

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>>20826374
Yes strange feel tonight Mr. Klangs, lotta trepidation in the air. Don't like that a big boi pushed the sell button when they didn't like Tuesday's highs o_o
NDX is so overbot, I'm a little scurred

>> No.20826631

Is oil going to be okay bros? Longholding xom.

>> No.20826632

>>20824077
kek

>> No.20826634

I work for a company that is buying back it's own shares while having a substantial amount of outstanding debt. How does this make sense?
https://www.cnbc.com/2019/07/29/buybacks-companies-increasingly-using-debt-to-repurchase-stocks.html

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>>20826631
Don’t sell and you will be fine. My stack is like 55% oil. Might not make money today, but it’s coming.

Diamond hands

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>>20826627
good times

>> No.20826672

>>20826506
bump for interest?

>> No.20826676

>>20826500
I would like to be turned into a rat and tickled, to death if possible.

>> No.20826678

>>20826634
Unironically for a lot of companies the best ROI from GIBBS was stock buybacks.

>> No.20826679

Maybe bigs trying to spook people ahead of a big earnings night?

Not sure since eu shit the bed today too.

>> No.20826754

>>20826634
It makes sense if crypto replaces the $

>> No.20826757

>>20826656
It was either that, or the world’s largest public restroom. It seemed pretty stupid when you compare it to tickling labrats

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>>20826346
>In a note to shareholders published June 30, which came shortly after a similar announcement by its peer BP, Shell said it now anticipated significantly lower oil and gas prices over the next 30 years.
So how does this work? If oil is cheaper EVs are even less competitive despite the mountains of government subsidies shoveled into them.
Without nuclear (which is not happening, because of Muh-kushima Daiichi) national grids can not operate stably, coal is out so that leaves natgas?
There's no way in hell that prices medium term don't go back to pre-CCP virus levels

>> No.20826777

>>20826500
*bonk*

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>>20826672
I’m too stupid to play the options game anon. I just baghold. Enjoy these complimentary bears though.

youtube.com/watch?v=puXdsdJUOk0

>> No.20826785

>>20826773
competitiveness won't matter one bit when you your internal combustion engine is outlawed

>> No.20826846

>>20826634
All businesses have debts. Its about balancing deficits with capital gains
For example your company might have croporate debt that it pays 4% interest on, but if your company's stock is appreciating at 6% then it makes more sense to buy your own companys stock with the cash on hand than to pay off your debt right now

>> No.20826850

>>20826780
why the self whiplash? do mistakes and learn it fellow anon

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so is it over for silver? i feel like a retard for holding

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>>20826785
we have to go back

>> No.20826872

>>20826780
Black bears are very cute in person. And smaller than you would expect. They are like large dog but double wide.

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burn in hell

>> No.20826885

>>20826506
>also i am considering just trading 3 or 4 companies only with options, learn them by heart, everything they do and dont, and just trade them every day , anybody have any suggestions?
Pick ones that you'd be interested to learn the ins and outs of?
KO in a crude sense roughly tracks the dollar
MA, V, SQ are financial health indicators with much better margins than actual banks.
NIKE tends to be the median consumer defensive company (with international exposure)
Etc.

>> No.20826888

>>20826862
Are they going to stop printing dollars and manipulating yield curve? No there’s your answer

>> No.20826894

>>20826862
>i feel like a retard for holding
Why? Similar drawdown occurred earlier in the run up and turned out to be a momentary blip. This one is more serious but there was little warning it would get this way. Especially so when price action flatlines for a while after the initial spasm.

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>invert colors
Much better

>> No.20826906

>>20826862
I've sat through dumps only to watch it recover at the end of the day since tuesday

>> No.20826910

>>20826881
Notha victory for the bba, notha chance for me to buy some precies for the long haul :3

>> No.20826918

>>20826885
was more thinking in TSLA, SPY and maybe BA where the liquidity, the volatility and the volume are always high

Futures wise im mostly playing on crude, just opened tastyworks where the options plays are way more fun and easy than all the shitbrokers we have in Europe,

PS YES YOU EUROFAG ANON , STOP WHAT YOU ARE DOING AND OPEN A FUCKIN TASTYWORKS ACCOUNT , IB, SAXOBANK and the rest are total shit

>> No.20826935

>>20826773
EVs are still much cheaper to operate regardless of the price of gasoline and this will only grow in the future because they're only at the base of the technology curve but internal combustion engines have very few improvements that can be made. Already the cost of EV drivetrains are reaching par with ICE, this will only keep rapidly dropping to the point where it will be inconceivable that anyone would buy a new ICE vehicle.
>national grids can not operate stably, coal is out so that leaves natgas?
No, that's easily solved using battery storage. Look at how Tesla stabilized the Australian grid and saved them millions of dollars. Battery storage replaces peaker plants and allows renewable energy at a very low cost. Battery storage prices have dropped so much that renewables with energy storage can produce energy at a lower cost than most alternatives.

Oil is dying, demand will decrease greatly over the next decade and any production that cannot get oil out of the ground cheaply will go belly up, that's the entire US industry. Right now the price of oil is lower than their production costs.

>> No.20826944

>>20826918
How much are you getting paid to shill your broker?

>> No.20826951

>>20826918
You better be selling options with those (except maybe SPY). The volatility crushes on TSLA and BA are nuts.

>> No.20826981

I hope this dipper-dee-doo-dah hangs around until open, I’m looking to get into some cheapies

>> No.20826998

>>20826944
couldnt give a fuck, stay with the rest
>>20826951
verticals and iron condors only , theta gang

>> No.20827025

>>20826773
>There's no way in hell that prices medium term don't go back to pre-CCP virus levels
I see that there are still a lot of people that got involved with oil with no understanding of how the commodity works. Long term oil is facing a secular decline, not so much yet from renewable memes, but from natural gas. And the problem of the price war is that a lot of the countries that almost entirely rely on oil revenue have to keep pumping something. They simply can't afford to go years without doing so. The price war and covid was timed right before the typical summer bumps, so now the next bump up is in October, November, December.
And at these price levels, much of the US oil industry literally cannot operate at anything approaching a profit. The industry is used to this, but this bust cycle shock was immense even by its standards. Things will "get back to normal" after bankruptcies, consolidations, and mergers.

>> No.20827070

All aboard for another green day of KTOV

>> No.20827082

holy shit it just KEEPS FUCKING DUMPING
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

>> No.20827131

>>20827082
good thing i'm half cash
unfortunately the other half is silver and gold which is also dumping

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>>20826910
That tone... Do you want to die?

>> No.20827212

>Futures deep red
>VIX at +4.5%
>DXY green
>rocks down
Where the fuck is the money going?

>> No.20827230

Get ready for a fun day, burgers
Greetings from the blood rivers of yurop

>> No.20827233

>>20827212
shorts

>> No.20827246

>>20826998
Where did you learn about verticals, anon?

>> No.20827268

I got really stoned yesterday and went on a crazy paranoid selling spree.. woke up and thought wow you are retarded.. now I'm seeing the futures.. and don't feel so bad about it anymore.. any suggestions how to profit from this?

>> No.20827274

>>20827268
Knock-out certificates

>> No.20827277

>>20827268
buy more kodak. 80 eod

>> No.20827278

>>20827246
easiest explanation i have found was this guy,
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6_0SbRaHv1U

otherwise its an art, and as every art you need to practise yourself a lot , also anything from Tom Sosnoff is just a must

>> No.20827283

>>20827212
You can't find real silver anywhere for less than $30 an ounce but JPMorgan can strangle the paper price

>> No.20827287

could the loss of the 26k on the dow lead to the second massiv flush everyone is expecting?
oil is going down
eu is going down
us is going down
if the fed doesnt come up with another gorillion monopoly money we could see the start of the a second leg, right?

>> No.20827294

where did that options anon guy ? he used to make options threads here on biz

>> No.20827308

>>20827268
Buy KTOV

>> No.20827325

What lessons are there to be learned from KODK?

1. If an irrelevant stock moons for seemingly no reason, that means insiders know something's up, and you should jump in too?

2. Whatever you do, don't short such a stock, because soon that information will become public knowledge, the media will write articles about it and the boomers will start buying it?

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>>20827167
I'm bein completely unironical, it's not like I'm long metals currently besides my fun treasure in the closet. I really wanna pick up 5 or 10 yang in goldies to hold through the election, hold less cash and more shinies :<

>> No.20827327

NIO EOD?

>> No.20827337

My QQQ put I grabbed right before the tech hearing went from being a loser to rapidly approaching my break even price, neat.

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>>20827230
I'm going to blame Germany.

>> No.20827358

>>20827325
>there's now a lot of new money robinhooders that got very good profit yesterday
>they'll want to repeat that success
>be ahead of the curve with them

>> No.20827360

>>20827325
There was nothing to really say this wasn't GNUS pt. 2
Other than because it was pushed by Trump maybe it indicates true crony capitalism and so forces are at work to dump shares on boomers for a company that was formerly trying to get into crypto and nuclear reactors

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Going all in on a stock is stressful
I set a sell limit order for 0.795 but it's not going through. And I'm scared I'll go to bed and wake up with the order unfilled and the stock down 5%

>> No.20827369

>>20826862

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9EOPKizJ_Y4

>> No.20827377

>>20827361
Based

>> No.20827384

>>20827274
done thx

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>>20827361
>Going all in on a stock is stressful
This is your primordial soup monkey brain telling you all in on bullshit is untenable lack of risk management. Ignore monkey brain at your financial peril.

>> No.20827421

today is GDP report day
happy GDP report day

>> No.20827459

>>20827294
I'm beginning to wonder if we should make a more focused options general. I'd love to hear more strategies around put credit spreads.

>> No.20827501

>>20827459
i would love that

>> No.20827547

>>20827459
name it /sog/. soggy general.

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Is the market mentally ill?

>> No.20827619

>>20827459
it would also help anons to look for low IV Percentile just to buy cheap strangles or just calls / puts , strategies wise i also like to monitor tom sosnoff and a few more when he plays live

>> No.20827630

>>20827609
>Tripfag asking if something else is mentally ill
Pottery.

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me right now thinking about the losses so far and losses to come

>> No.20827673

>>20827652
been there.. just think about the taxes you are not paying

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AND WE'RE BACK

>> No.20827706

alright, do we long gold or silver before the gdp report comes?

>> No.20827714

>>20827694
wake me up when NASDAQ is back to 11,000

>> No.20827721

>>20827706
What is this “we” shit?

>> No.20827734

>>20827694
Market hasn't even opened yet. It will be red as soon as the bell rings.

>> No.20827744

>>20827706
Short that ponzi to the fuckin ground , silver bugs are the most deluded retards

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EVERYONE KEEP IT DOWN. STOP YELLING, I’M TRYING TO SLEEP.

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>>20827609
market is reflection of human psyche. so yes.

>> No.20827760

>>20827694
>he doesn't hold hundreds of TQQQ calls in his portfolio

>> No.20827765

>>20825685
futures are already priced in

>> No.20827769

Lloyds and Barclays are crashing. If i had a shit ton of cash i'd love to just dump it into their stocks. Barclays has 3% Div yeild, Lloyds over 4% (Albeit no divvies this year).

Both of them are two of the biggest banks in the UK, about to hit all time lows

>> No.20827770

>>20827721
People who can't be arsed or too stupid to do shit on their own, use that word to make other people spill the beans on the big plays. With so many of these here I wonder why they don't just use eToro and do CopyTrades.

>> No.20827817

>KODK nearing 40 in pre-market

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>>20827734
you mean it will be green

>> No.20827819

became a doomer around the march lows because i thought the world was going to end. i was too scared to even look at the SPY, bros. should i go back? haven't looked at the SPY since march...

>> No.20827829

>>20827769
they are on a downspiral since almost a year now...
stop fishing for people to buy your bags son

>> No.20827842

>>20827327
I would expect it to sell off a little more before the big pump on Monday. Possibly under $12

>> No.20827864

>>20827819
>>20827421

>> No.20827892

>>20827817
vol crush coming soon

>> No.20827909

which chink stocks could moon in the next ten years? Xiaomi, NIO ?...

>> No.20827981

>>20827909
Don't trust chinks. Don't invest in chinks. At some point they will try to fuck us over.

>> No.20827998

>>20827909
I imagine BILI will remain a market mainstay for some years to come.

>> No.20828001

>>20827981
this

>> No.20828007

>>20827909
Enjoy your new imposed tariffs and immediate dump

>> No.20828015

>>20827981
This is also a valid concern.

>> No.20828020

>>20827981
>At some point they will try to fuck us over.
that's when you'll make the most money, moron

>> No.20828022

>>20827842
>before the big pump on Monday
So this is the new bag holder bullshit tactic?
"It may get a little bit lower before the absolutely guaranteed gigantic fuckhueg pump that's definitely coming, but not much. Better just go ahead and buy h-heh."

>> No.20828045

>>20828007
You enter after negative trade war news and then hold until Biden wins. Biden is (unfortunately) soft on China trade

>> No.20828057

>>20827981
>>20827998
>>20828007
im not american, im german. You are deluded by ideology and emotions.

>> No.20828069

>>20825276
Le 4chan will ROAST me for this epic fail. But unironically, check out Kamikaze Cash or the Theta Gang websit/podcast. It's a /wsb/ spin off community, however they know options and will hopefully convince you to sell spreads rather than buy options.

>> No.20828074

>>20828057
You fell for the Boomer american trap card. You are about to get memed to DEATH
>>20827909
This KODK bullshit reminds of a lot of random chink moon missions out of nowhere.

>> No.20828086

>>20825332
Dump on positive news because people don't know if it'll be their last chance to get out before a theoretical crash.

>> No.20828089

>>20828045
Ohhhhhhhh I see
You're a moron

>> No.20828090

>>20828057
Die Ironie ist dass ich selber deutsch bin. Trau ihnen nicht.

>> No.20828093

>>20828057
>>20828090
aber trau den Deutschen noch weniger !

>> No.20828104

>>20824861
and playing "boy or girl", but it's always the same.
i think it's rigged

>> No.20828111

>>20828090
>>20828093
Since we have Germans in here. Does German finance actually exist?
Between DB being a money laundering organization and wirecard being a pretend money laundering organization, do any Germans trust their own markets?

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Frens, I know Big 5 may have burned some of you in the past but, you all need to take a look at their earnings report. They are making a huge come back.

>> No.20828121

tldr
Should I go cash because of the GDP report?

>> No.20828125

>>20828089
I am a moron, I'm holding KTOV
I fell for the "this stock is the next big thing, trust me" bagholder meme

>> No.20828126

>>20828111
I have 1 german stock (flatex) and it fucked me big time.. never again. Scam numbers all.

>> No.20828139

>>20828090
are you the other based trade republic bruder? I give you that chinese businesses are shady because they are mostly owned by goverment but I believe that many of them are undevalued as fuck. Look at Xaoimi they are one the biggest samrtphone and electronic producer and their stock is below 2$

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what stocks to make money from the new CYBER force??

>> No.20828150

>>20828111
In general history has told germans one thing. Never trust the government. ww1, ww2, hyperinflation it is a no brainer that nobody trusts the markets. Only 5% Germans hold stocks or so

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>>20826508
Kek

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>>20828121
Ok. What are the losers here? I’m selling SQQQ Friday at the latest. Any others?

>> No.20828169

>>20828150
oh and the goldmark was another thing where germany fucked it's citizens

>> No.20828170

>>20828146
Loicense printers

>> No.20828174

>>20824216
You have to have margin enabled. Why the hell do you want to trade options if you’re new? 100% you don’t have a clue about options, you’re gonna lose all your money.

>> No.20828198

>>20828169
change your gold coins for paper money and then it's worthless

that is the german government financial politics in a nutshell

>> No.20828210

HOLY SHIT BIG NEWS SELL ALL RED FUCK ME SELL

>> No.20828222

>>20827769
>retail banks
Avoid desu, even if heavily discounted

>> No.20828233

>>20828210
JUST SOLD WHAT HAPPENED

>> No.20828234

>>20828111
German financial institutions are way more conservative. We have our own structure, called three pillar system, so there are many public and cooperative banks. Commercial banks do mostly stupid shit abroad or private equity.

>> No.20828237

>>20827829
I hold 0 positions in either banks, nor do i own any options in either banks.

>>20828222
Trips of truth enlighten me why retail banks are a bad investment. I don't know much about that sector

>> No.20828250

Europe here. Shit looks bad today.

>> No.20828256

SELL EVERYTHIIIIING

>> No.20828259

>>20828233
EVERYTHING

>> No.20828270
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C I R C U I T B R E A K E R

>> No.20828277

>>20828259
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

>> No.20828278

>>20825198
Fake and gay

>> No.20828284

>>20828146
Any defence suppliers involved in SATCOM, probably GD and shit like that

>> No.20828300

>>20828139
I use trade republic, because I am a retard. chink companys will always be a gamble, because they are intrasparent for people outside china and they don't punish defrauding foreigners. Might change, but I doubt it.

>> No.20828302

>>20828146
Kodak when they get the contract

>> No.20828334

>-0.9% premarket
I'm bleeding, please help.

>> No.20828348

Anybody here have experience with Trading 212?

About to invest £1k on 2 stocks there.

I think its the only app apart from Freetrade that is fee-free in the UK..

>> No.20828356

>>20828022
Are mutts really this retarded? If you still believe NIO is a shit company you need to realize America isn't what it used to be.

>> No.20828367

>>20828237
It just seems like a bad idea when market forces are shit right now. Competition between current banks is virtually non-existent because none can offer decent interest rates or switching bonuses, then you have high street presence now virtually non-existent (and it will never come back) and finally the rise of alternative digital banks squeezing their market share. Only thing they have left is mortgages, and the housing market in the UK is utterly fucked (albeit heavily propped up by govt intervention). You should only put money into current retail banks if you think that they're going to grow somehow in the future, and I just can't see how that's possible to any significant degree.

>> No.20828372

>>20828348
Yes it's the best platform for the UK. Withdrawals take a few days however. I've had a few issues with orders not cancelling right away but it's very minor stuff.

>> No.20828381

>>20828334
VIX almost at 8%. My TSM calls may be fucked but they are 2 weeks out. My intel puts, on the other hand...
Also, buy SQQQ on open? Seems like it's going to be pretty bloody today.

>> No.20828382

so whats gonna come out of the FAAG hearings?

>> No.20828395

Testing mofos

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>>20828348
Yes mate what would you like to know? Been using it a month now

>> No.20828434

>>20828382
Probably nothing, yet? Congress cornered the FAAGs pretty well a couple times, but nothing damning came from it. Expect a move towards legislation very soon though, and at that point, who knowns what happens.

>> No.20828436

>>20828381
I'm -1% and I doubt it may go lower, I just might sell low which is retarded.
Depends on the GDP report desu.

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Shall I buy INTC or finally purchase some assault weapons?

>> No.20828454

>>20828442
Buy high explosives (in Minecraft)

>> No.20828456

>>20828442
Assault weapons only go up

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>>20824216
>I'm new to robinhood. How do I trade options?

>> No.20828476

>>20828434
Edit: Congress did say they would be publishing a report of their findings soon as well. That could push things once it's out.

>> No.20828491

>>20828442
I wouldn't. It's still on a downtrend and will be for some time judging by the past times AMD took the lead.

>> No.20828492

>>20826935
America is doomed.

>> No.20828505

>>20828405
Whats the difference between ISA and invest accounts?

I have my money in the Invest account. Can I move it to ISA?

>> No.20828515
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>>20828395
unsuccessful

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>>20827760
Based

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>>20828491
Obviously, yet in my opinion it is unlikely to drop below 45 or so in the long run, that's why I didn't want to miss the opportunity to open the deal
Also it's flattening as far as I can see, so

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>>20828382
Ideally the tech industry gets scared of losing its crown and agrees to self-regulate itself like Wall Street. If they don’t the govt will fuck them up good sooner or later because unfortunately for them both lefties and righties are turning on them now.

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Futures getting worse

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>>20828381
When did you buy and when do they expire, Kim poster here with 5k in INTC puts, among other things.

>> No.20828708

>>20828505
Afaik Invest is more normal broker type stuff where you can do more like options etc. and there's possibly more stocks (not too sure desu). You'll also pay CGT on withdrawals once you reach the threshold (£12.5k).
ISA is a Stocks and Shares ISA where your allowance in each FY (£20k) is protected from CGT when you withdraw. I suppose using the same sums there's no real difference between the two unless you're getting +50% returns but stocks and shares ISA can compound it over time nicely and protect a larger amount whereas non-ISA will only give a £12.5k tax free amount each year.

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making new one sec

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>> No.20828768

>>20828436
Kikes are all saying around-35% the FUD in the articles is funny to read.

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>>20828768
DJIA will hit 12k at the low.

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>>20824077
bill gates is a great man, his donations clear him of any cyber crime and against national privacy and security
*irony turns off

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