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I'm scared, lads, I'm scared

>> No.20800741

>>20800703
Finally i can buy one. Now they have to fix the security so now i can buy safely.

>> No.20800765

>>20800741
lmao, that's what I was thinking

>> No.20800787

>>20800741
just use a paper wallet retard, if u want a hw use meta mask

>> No.20800792

>>20800703

Why? Buy a different device from another hardware wallet manufacturer. Problem solved. I have two of these pieces of shit. Do you honestly think I use them? Kek, they're glorified USB sticks anon.

Sure, they have the price locking feature, but so does Trezor.

>> No.20800825

>>20800703
take your meds schizo

unless you live in a 3rd world or posted that you have mass crypto in social media then you're safe.

>> No.20800833

>>20800703
> hurr durr

nothing burger. fuck off

>> No.20800868

Wait what happened? I own one

>> No.20800872

>>20800825
>unless you live in a 3rd world
Is Switzerland 3rd world
> or posted that you have mass crypto in social media
I am very frugal

>> No.20800892

>>20800703
Only their e-commerce platform was breached. So they have your name, your email, your telephone and address and the amount of products you bought. BUT they don't know what are your addresses at all

>> No.20800897

>>20800868
>Wait what happened? I own one
Your address and full name and phone number are sold in the deep web in a list of wealthy crypto holders

>> No.20800942

>>20800892
It's horrible. I will have in the back oh my mind, for all my life, that someone could come and torture me or my family to get my crypto. Even if I sell everything today

>> No.20801012

>>20800892
So if I bought through a third party website then I should be safe?

>> No.20801032

>>20801012
Most probably yes

>> No.20801035

>>20800703
Congrats. Now the CIA and FBI knows you own crypto.

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>>20800703
hey buddy hand me the USB

>> No.20801170

>tfw my friend got me one for my birthday
Poor guy

>> No.20801215

>>20801012
If you bought from a third party site the hackers don't have access to your contact data, however is a bad security practice to buy from resellers, since the only known ways to hack a ledger require physical access to the device, and you don't know if the reseller manipulated it somehow

>> No.20801260

>>20800897
>wealthy crypto owners

kek

>> No.20801320

so what's the worst possible scenario? they track you down and kidnap you forcing you to give your coins?

can I sue ledger if that happens?

>> No.20801343

>>20801320
Not if you're dead kek

>> No.20801356

>>20800703
Have fun with all the pinshing scams.

>> No.20801376

>>20801343
man I'm gonna be so pissed if I die over some ones and zeroes.

>> No.20801387

>>20800872
you are fine anon, muchhhhh more likely to die when you cross a street or drive a car.

>> No.20801390

>>20800872
They'd probably target people living in posh addresses in first world countries because the probability of them holding crypto is higher.

>> No.20801406

>>20801215
>you don't know if the reseller manipulated it somehow
Ledger have official resellers listed on their site. Only buy from that list.

>> No.20801496

Anons check your junk email because I received an email saying I was among the 9500. Only name and surname were accessed.

>> No.20801505

>>20800825
This

I live in a safe relatively wealthy European country, and after the 2017 they were interviewing new crypto millionaires with full name on the news and shit, nothing happened.

Would't want to be in something Venezuela-like though

>> No.20801603

I just remembered that I had to cancel my credit card when someone bought 500 euros worth of shit from some shady website, that was right around the time I bought my ledger

guess this has been going on for a while

>> No.20802136

anyone actually afraid is just tinfoil hat wearing paraoid people, on linkedin there's literally tons of people using their real name having titles like "cryptocurrency broker", "crypto investor", "bitcoin consultat"whatever which even suggests having professional levels of crypto. These are not getting robbed daily

>> No.20802185

>>20800703
Get ready to be visited by criminals lulz

>> No.20802329

>>20802185
Didn't receive the second mail, I'm safe

>> No.20802453

>>20800703
>Ledger webpage on this subject that has a date doesn't say anything about sending an email

>Ledger webpage on this subject that does not have a date says they sent an email "today"

WHEN THE FUCK DID THEY SEND THE EMAILS

>> No.20802577

>buy a ledger
>invest solely in XRP, PNK, Vechain, other shitcoins
>literally lose tens of thousands of dollars and have portfolio of junk
>5 years from now come home to my family raped and murdered because someone bought my info on the dark web and assumed I was a crypto millionaire
Kek

>> No.20802674

>>20802577
There are hundreds or even thousands of people on the internet showing their names and faces on a daily basis of whom it is known that they hold a lot of crypto.
Devs, crypto "influencers", flexing crypto oldfags who made it years ago, ...

>> No.20802713

>>20802674
They didn't get their fucking HOMe ADDRESSES leaked

>> No.20802731
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20802731

I didn’t receive that second email but I did receive this weird ass text a few days ago. I think they have my phone number.

>> No.20802740

>>20802674
Well it harder to whack a guy who is public, then a guy who no one knows right?

>> No.20802749

>>20800703
Oh boy
Has anyone heard about this?

A thread on an underground Russian hacking forum, posted ~2 months ago(!), shows that the hacker obtained over 20K email:phone lines for Australia alone. https://twitter.com/YousTof/status/1288479137154441218?s=20

>> No.20802757

>>20800703
Yo can we actually form a class action suit for this? I feel like we could get some big $$ from these faggots, they shouldn't be storing user info anyway

>> No.20802770

>>20802713
its not that hard to find someones home address

>> No.20802780

>>20800703
Just tried to post this but it disappeared. Trying again.

A thread on an underground Russian hacking forum, posted ~2 months ago(!), shows that the hacker obtained over 20K email:phone lines for Australia alone. https://twitter.com/YousTof/status/1288479137154441218?s=20

>> No.20802785

>>20802713
lol I hope you're joking.
All you have to do is follow the guy.
Typically you even know the general city/area where they live.

>>20802740
What makes you think that?

>> No.20802789

>>20800703
>ordered one in June
>it got lost in shipping
>have been playing tag between them, DHL, and USPS for weeks
>still haven’t gotten it or a refund
Wow this really worked out

>> No.20802800

>>20802770
uuuhm are there people here who think it's hard to find someones adress if you have a name? That's eve public info in most paces bro

>> No.20802832
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20802832

>>20800741
>>20800703

Hardware wallets are the biggest scam in crypto aside from Ample right now. Just use Electrum on an offline computer, holy shit. Or even an audited paper wallet generator. Don't listen to Redditfags who act like this is the only secure way to store crypto. Trusting your keys to proprietary hardware and software is not secure and never has been.

Oh yeah, and you don't have to surrender your home address when you make an Electrum wallet.

>> No.20802833

>>20802789
Based retard, your info didn’t disappear just because your order never arrived

>> No.20802873

>>20802833
Yeah but funds are safu

>> No.20802934

Wtf never ordered a ledger but got an email

Fuck me

>> No.20802938

Is there any 100% safe way to hold crypto?
At this point it doesnt seem like it.

>> No.20802977

I read they are mailing you today if your home address was compromised, but you cannot really trust them on that

>> No.20803064

>>20802832
Hardware wallets are for people that actually use crypto not longterm holder fags. How do you transfer daily from a paper wallet or offline PC? That shit takes ages.

>> No.20803102

>>20802938
There isnt. Not any significant amount.

>> No.20803144

>>20802977
Shit, I guess someone's gonna try robbing me at my door for my ledger

>> No.20803166

>>20800703
I was laughed at so hard for not buying a hardware wallet

Just remember, eastern european thieves have no qualms about torturing children to get what they want

>> No.20803305

>>20803064

The majority of your stack should be held, not traded. But I guess if you're suicidal, yeah, a hardware wallet is the best option.

>> No.20803308

>>20803102
what about paper wallet cold storage?
is that even safe anymore?

>> No.20803484

So this magically happens a few days after banks announce that they can hold crypto securely? Lmfaooo holy fucking shit

>> No.20803504

>>20800741
So true. I feel so comfy buying one of these now.

>> No.20803516

>>20803308
Did you use a kyc exhange, file taxes on crypto, cash out into your bank account using an exchange? Then no you are not safe. Very small chance but any database is prone to hacks and if there is a connection to your name and crypto there will be a risk however tiny. But in reality it is highly unlikely. Probably equal chance of being run over by bus.

>> No.20803549

>>20802938
nope.

>> No.20803559

>>20803308

It's safe so long as you used a good audited wallet generator and you've encrypted your keys and backed them up.

>> No.20803581

>>20801215
The shiny security stickers are literally tamper proof!

>> No.20803589

>>20800787
>if u want a hw use meta mask
>if u want a hw
>use meta mask
>hw
>meta mask

ask me how i know you breathe through your mouth

>> No.20803662

>>20801505
People can take planes.

>> No.20803731

>>20803581
what security sticker? ledger doesn't have those.

>> No.20803764

>>20803166
only slaves live in fear my brother

>> No.20803826

kek good luck breaking and entering in to an American's home. Most yanks own guns and if they actually are rich and worth stealing from they certainly own guns.

>> No.20803845

>>20800825
>>20801505
This. You guys' concerns are warranted, but you shouldnt lose sleep over this. There are many people who openly flaunt their wealth and no one has dared try to physically go after them.

Unless you flaunt your wealth and make it obvious you are super rich, you are fine. If I was a criminal and I wanted to PHYSICALLY go after people, then Ledger holders wouldnt be it, because I have no clue if they are *currently* rich or not. Even if we assume that Crypto super moons and you become wealthy, no one truly knows how much you hold.

Just use your common sense. If you go about flaunting your wealth, then yes, you make yourself a bigger target. If you go around talking about how you "made it" with crypto on instagram and facebook, then yes, you are making yourself into a target.

What this DOES do, is make you a big target for hacking, phishing, identity theft, malware, etc. But you should know how to defend yourself against that shit anyway.

>> No.20803849

>>20803662
yeah maybe to rob a confirmed millionaire, but do you think they will take a million planes to rob a million random people who bought a ledger x time ago?

>> No.20803912

>>20802453
5 pm cest i think?

>> No.20803937

Lol so much FUD

hardware or not, paper wallet or not
What matters is the seed backup not the ledger boys

>> No.20804001

Also assume that your information is already out there on the dark web anyway. Hell, most people I can look up their personal address on radaris, whitepages, etc anyway. I can do it for fucking free anons. All you have to do is type in their name, and their city in where they live, and you can peruse through their FREE database and get a good idea of who is who.

Unless you live in a 3rd world shithole I doubt you are in trouble. But you should guard yourself against any kind of data attack/identity theft. THAT I would be concerned about

>> No.20804048

I literally have over $350k worth of LINK in one of these things. What’re we doing now

>> No.20804246

>>20804048
move to belize and get your own security, and put eveything in ghost

>> No.20804427

>>20801496
>>20802934
Can you guys post a screenshot of what the email says?

>> No.20804502

>>20803845
>What this DOES do, is make you a big target for hacking, phishing, identity theft, malware, etc.
Social engineering is what I'd be most afraid of. It's much easier to deceive some helpdesk retard working for a crypto exchange to assist you in siphoning money out of some whales' exchange wallet than to physically break into their home and attempt to obtain their hardware wallet PIN or seed words.

>> No.20804515

>>20800703
Nice vape dude

>> No.20804677

>>20803484
Damn. This anon thinks.

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20804790

>One of the biggest address leaks is from a crypto security company

Crypto is such a fucking meme, fuck this shit, absolute fucking shit it is, every fucker getting hacked scammed or plain old losing their money on useless shit, it's literally the cancer of the fucking internet and I hope it all gets banned

FUCK CRYPTO

>> No.20804804

>>20803589
id assume he meant "hot wallet" not "hardware"

>> No.20804891 [DELETED] 

>>20804790
The funny thing is how these are "professional" projects. After we had shit like the MTA VC fund unlock a mere day ago, causing people to lose hundreds of thousands of dollars, if not millions collectively. Which is extremely class action lawsuit-worthy in itself. And other shit this last month. Literal 3rd world uniswap scam tier. Kek.

>> No.20804895

>Imagine the anons that tried to hide their gains for the government

>> No.20804925

>>20804790
The funny thing is how these are "professional" projects. After we had shit like the MTA VC fund unlock mere days ago, causing people to lose hundreds of thousands of dollars, if not millions collectively. Which is extremely class action lawsuit-worthy,as well. And other shit this last month. Literal 3rd world uniswap scam tier. Only that uniswap scams aren't as bad, because you know it's suspicious and don't invest a lot. Kek.

>> No.20804995

>>20804925
I'm definitely not rich and I lost 2k on the MTA bullshit. I didnt even panic sell, I sold like a week later RIGHT before the 80% pump. But the price action wouldnt have happened that way without the team fuckup. I would sign up for a class action immediately but I know itll never happen

>> No.20805067

has anyone received the "second" email?

>> No.20805563

>>20800787
imagine having a paper wallet when you can have a fancy ledger...
stay poor pajeet

>> No.20805625

>>20805563
First thing Ledger asks you to do when you buy a hardware wallet is to make a paper wallet. Legder is a paper wallet with extra steps and extra price, less secure.

>> No.20805677

>>20803845
Sure the risk is low, but it isn't non existent. Big exhanges most likely either got hacked, and they don't talk about it, or there are insiders who sell sensitive data. How much money do you think you can buy a technical operator on one of those exchange platforms? Their wages are pretty low. My guess is that you can buy them for just one year of their wages.

>> No.20805725

>>20803484
kek

>> No.20806196

>>20805625
what's a paper wallet and how do i make one?

>> No.20806536

Secure they said. Sure..

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Damn bros, why am I always so lucky ?

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>>20800703
Based Trezor anons win again.

>> No.20807621

>>20807288
noice

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>>20807426
This. Unlike Trezor, Ledger is closed source so you really don't know what the fuck is going on in that device and firmware

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>>20800703
Time to get a gun anon.

>> No.20808269

>>20804790
glowing