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>> No.20671903
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>>20671888
>No anime OP pic related
>No subject
Is this /smg/?

>> No.20671911

Forgot title, but you faggots forgot to check my digits.

>> No.20671913

Oil goes up royal Dutch shell goes down why thank you based Dutch man

>> No.20671976
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>>20671903
>anime
ngmi

>> No.20672029

'Tis time for nightly drunk blog post.
Here you go, sirs:
>I tried banging a chick once without lying that I've never done it before and she decided crying and kicking me out was the best option for how to proceed.

>> No.20672043

>>20671899
Marqeta is on my IPO watchlist. Presumably late this year or near the beginning of next.

>> No.20672050

>>20672029
Oh. Also.
>still haven't done it
:^)

>> No.20672051

>>20672029
Based

>> No.20672055
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>tfw bought NVAX at $10/share

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How hard is it to put a title????

>> No.20672110

If /biz/ had an ETF what would be our top holdings

>> No.20672111

No title no /smg/

>> No.20672169

>>20672110
50% TQQQ, 50% TSM

>> No.20672191
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>>20672029
Is banging women really that hard to do?

Before I got married all I had to do was go to a bar, club, or call a single friend over for drinks and pizza and it was a done deal.

Literally 2-3 different girls a week was easy.

I ended up marrying a girl 10 years younger than me who unironically looks like pic related.

She's super traditional, skinny and a great wife who can actually cook.

Guess the main thing is just grab your nuts and be confident. That's literally all you have to do. Women hate shy faggits.

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>>20672050
What the heckies Mr. Scoops! I bet that's probably actually more common than you'd think, especially among upper middle class educated zillenials. A culture where everything is permissible soon becomes one where nothing is possible :<

>> No.20672213

>>20672169
can you even put an ETF in an ETF?

>> No.20672225

>>20672213
ETFs all the way down

>> No.20672229

>>20672213
...maybe? It would become TQQQ with more exposure to TSM

>> No.20672242

>>20672207
>I bet that's probably actually more common than you'd think
I think so as well.
I've got a huge CDC dataset on this shit, but I've been too lazy to ever get around to running some numbers on it.
My point was primarily humor with the first post

>> No.20672267

Thanks to the anon who recommended prologis PLD

up 1% yesterday, expecting more after the article yesterday about how covid helped their biz

>> No.20672324

>>20672229
ok i just found out you can put an ETF in an ETF and there are actually many

>> No.20672347
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wait a sec, so youre telling me selling a naked put is just a limit buy + tip?

>> No.20672413
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>>20672242
Hehe as an aspiring cultural critic and Rasputin combo I just need to come up with florid takes about why neoliberal modernity is so sexless (and how I can change that). Gonna sell great to the single 35 year old ladies at the new-age bookstore once it reopens :3
Also, you're a technology guy, have you seen what's going on with GPT-3 yet? Very very spooky, kinda has me rethinking my skepticism towards AGI :O
>>20672347
Lol I mean kind of!

>> No.20672472

>>20672110
CNNY

>> No.20672498

>>20672347
He knows too much
Send in the clown squads

>> No.20672538

>>20671903
ngmi

>> No.20672571

>>20672110
DOOO
TVIXF (RIP)
WKHS
TQQQ
INTC and AMD for eternal shitflining
Covered Calls on QYLD

>> No.20672677

Opinions on MRNA and INO?

Personally I think MRNA will moon to 134 after retarded robinhoodies realize the vaccine is really happening on monday, and that they understand the patent didn't mean shit to them. INO is probably going to get dragged along for the ride then moon itself when its next phase info drops.

>> No.20672732

Got my initial investment back from CLSK.
Thanks for the tip frens.
Now the remaining stocks can go up or down I don't care anymore, it's profit either way

>> No.20672898

went full retard with calls in microsoft even though this is probably a trend shift

>> No.20673344
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meh

>> No.20673353

>>20672110
How do you even make an ETF?

>> No.20673374
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i dont even know what TQQQ is and i dont care

its probably some boomer shit

i fall asleep at the mear mention of that stock

>> No.20673382

>>20673344
what are some Yui stocks

>> No.20673386
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I need MSFT to hit 220 by 7/31 or I will kms

>> No.20673403

>>20672413
it's still just statistical pattern guessing, they just put on a shitton of parameters
agi will be a completly different thing

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>>20673386

>waiting for your lifeless body to satisfy my penile pleasures

>> No.20673508
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If you don't like holding TQQQ just sell some fucking covered calls at a strike price you're comfortable with and let it get assigned away eventually

Then you move on with your life and invest into other things since you don't have faith in tech to be leaders in an economy where the dollar is inflated

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dF97JGYCBRM
Check out some of Peter's stuff, it might be a good idea to adapt a doombull portfolio that includes gold as well.
40% TQQQ
20% TMF
20% GDX
20% GDXJ

>> No.20673553

>>20671911
Checked

>> No.20673567

>>20673386
>>20673457
das it mane

>> No.20673608
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>>20673508
i dont know what a covered call is dude but i just tried to save your image 3 times and my browser kept blocking it

thanks tho

>> No.20673616

big green dildo monday for NIO. Screenshot this.

>> No.20673637

>>20673616
I fucking hope so, if I break even I’m selling this piece of shit and buying slv

>> No.20673644
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Should I buy heavy into SQQQ on Monday morning?

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>>20673608
Do you at least know what a broker is?

>> No.20673715

>>20673692
What the fuck is a broker? I just deposit and buy shit on my robinhood account, I don’t need a broker, robinhood is fine for now.

>> No.20673747
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>>20673715
Fidelity is better. They treat you much better anon.

>> No.20673754

>>20673637
what price did you buy at? If it makes you feel better i believe it will hit some where around $18-$24 early august

>> No.20673765
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>>20673692
no i just use robinhood

>> No.20673782

>>20673692
does anyone have the screencap?

>> No.20673790
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>>20673765
No more Asian babes for you then.

>> No.20673820

>>20673754
I will hold for a little linger then just for you, I brought 100 at 12.5 and another 100 at 13.5

>> No.20673841
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20673841

When is the IV on my INTC puts going to rise, barley moved on yesterday’s -16% drop. REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

>> No.20673848

>>20673820
Honestly i wouldn't worry, 350 @12.54 here and im not fazed at all. It was just shaking off retail investors

>> No.20673884
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when i think of a broker i think of a jewish guy in a suit in the 32nd floor of a building in new york where you go up the elevator and you hand him your buys and sells for the week on a piece of paper

so i just use robinhood for now

>> No.20673887
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20673887

It’s Caturday

>> No.20673893

When will AMD pullback? Book profits on monday?

>> No.20673898

>>20673616
YUP, NIO NIGGAS RISE UP CHING CHONG BING BONG

>> No.20673925
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>>20673841
Anon. It’s Caturday. Everything is gonna be ok.

>> No.20673927

>>20672677
I've done a fair bit of research on MRNA. Also sold some puts for a slight profit. Overall I think they are still overvalued but with such a political jewed situation like the covid vaccine I exited my position.

Few things to take into account is their past somewhat shady stock trading that had people calling on them to get looked at by the SEC. Another thing is that they are going into their phase 3 trial which is the most likely phase of a vaccine to fail. So big gamble there. But perhaps they can just push it through if that's what they want. Another thing to note is the lack of jews involved in the company.

>> No.20673971

Serious question, if you're only interested in putting your money into S&P 500 or NASDAQ ETF's, (which value has historically only gone up), why wouldn't you pick a 3x Leveraged ETF as opposed to a non-leveraged ETF?

>> No.20674039

>>20673971
Simple jew math; S&P -1% at 3x = 970 USD from 1000. S&P then rises 1% = 999.1 USD. This gets amplified for bigger swings.

>> No.20674118

>>20673927
>Imagine being the first one to get the coronita-chan vaccine after the trials
>50% chance side effects

Fuck that

>> No.20674126

>>20674039
Ah, I think I understand. So a 3x leveraged ETF would only be good if you are absolutely positive the stock market is going to go up, and wouldn't be a smart position to hold long-term?

>> No.20674129

>>20673971
Leveraged is better only for continually bullish markets, otherwise those products are meant for swing/day trading. Hence why TQQQ is the most recommended leveraged ETF over other random shit like NRGU or DFEN.

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>>20674129
when you get to the point where your etf is back to day trade swings around a median

then you switch to a different etf which is not back to the median

and is undervalued

:]

deal with it.

>> No.20674220

>>20671903
ngmi

>> No.20674291

>>20674181
It's all fine and dandy for swinging stuff like DFEN and NRGU until some poor kid doesn't have an exit plan and gets stuck in a position for 3 weeks, so I still recommend TQQQ over any other leveraged product out there

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>>20674291
dfen and nrgu are undervalued u can put ur money in either of those and be good down the road

ur not stuck ur just waiting

why would you feel stuck

its a guaranteed play

if u have medium term in mind

>> No.20675020

>catalog
>search "smg"
>no results
Are you retarded OP?

>> No.20675030

>>20675020
OP fucked up

>> No.20675034
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>>20671888
bumpin for saturday smg

>> No.20675108
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>>20675034
It’s Caturday anon.

>> No.20675109

>>20675034
Saturday /smg/ must die
Let me sleep

>> No.20675215
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>TQQQ is le dotbomb tech
Smooth brains.
TQQQ is 3xQQQ, QQQ does not hold dumpster fire stocks like Uber or Snap. The biggest short fall of TQQQ is no TSM (not listed on NQ), but this can be ameliorated with separate TSM LEAPS

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>>20675215
https://screener.fidelity.com/ftgw/etf/goto/snapshot/snapshot.jhtml?symbols=TQQQ

50% of /smg/ don't even know what ETF basket holdings are

>> No.20675380

>>20675299
99.999% of smg are mentally retarded tho

>> No.20675521
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When you couldn't get on the TSM train so you just buy LEAPs for Intel on discount instead

>> No.20675532

>>20671976
>>20672538
>>20674220
:(

>> No.20675594

You guys trying to get some denny's for brekky?

>> No.20675596

Need input on NAIL.

3x leverage homebuilding

>> No.20675641

>>20675594
Yep. Got some Denny's yesterday and will probably go grab a Spicy Sizzlin' Skillet and some coffee in about 2 hours. How's your day going?

>> No.20675642
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Can someone explain to a poor slav retard how to trade commodities futures? My broker allows me to purchase gold contracts expiring on Sep 20, Dec 20, Mar 21 and Jun 21. How long can I hold futures? Do I need to sell it before exporation date? Thanks

>> No.20675662

>>20675596
The housing market is way too hard to predict due to the nature of supply and demand being swayed by any and every market factor imaginable. Better to go into tech. Everyone needs a phone and a computer. Not everyone builds homes.

>> No.20675817

>>20675641
Pretty good had some drinks with the boys last night, they are all still asleep. What will everyone do without lines to watch go up and down all day?

>> No.20675819

I have $1000 to gamble. Shill me a stock that will earn me the most by this time next year.

>> No.20675876

>>20675819
Sell put spreads on something like SPY instead for 2-3% gains weekly. Don't gamble.

>> No.20675889

>>20675819
all in on NIO

>> No.20675908
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>>20673887
yay

>> No.20675946

>>20675662
Ty, was thinking about it since there's been a low supply of homes on the market. But 3x seems risky.

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>>20673971
>>20674039
>>20674126
>>20674129
can we link to some kind of article on this in the OP? This question gets asked by some anon rolling through at least five time a week and it's the same conversation every time.

>> No.20676016
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>>20672413
>why neoliberal modernity is so sexless (and how I can change that).
by having sex?...

>>20675952
do it

>> No.20676106

>>20675952
I like increased conversation on /smg/ - especially on the weekends. I have not much to do since there's a quarantine and I have to WFH. And do people really even read the OP?

>>20675946
Yeah, just go with TQQQ honestly if you want 3x leverage. Tech is leading (and has been leading) the market for a long time for a good reason.

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>>20671903
You are gonna make it anon

>> No.20676196

>>20675819
DFFN gang
Gang gang rise up

>> No.20676366
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> open broker
> line didn't move

And so the weekend begins. I need something new to research this weekend. Last weekend I looked into utilities and found some nice targets. What sectors or companies are you guys looking at?

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>>20673353
I think only investment companies can put new ETFs on the market

If you wanted to mimic an ETF, you would buy fractional shares of the stocks proportional to the % of the ETF you want to them to comprise

So if you wanted to make a /biz/ ETF, it would actually be changing every few days / every week because something new is always being shilled. Right now it would be like

Msft options
Intc options or AMD
wkhs or nio
Tqqq which is retarded to have in an etf
Tsla options
Vix or tvix
Silj
Gdxj or some miner stocks
Airliners
Dnny
Rtx
Chainlink
Btc
Other shitcoins to gamble on

It would probably be a terrible ETF overall. /smg/ etf wpuld be awful as well because there are too many gamblers. You would have to make at least 2 smg etfs: 1 for the people looking to 5x overnight and 1 for the people just looking for stable growth and reputable companies

>> No.20676433
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wew lads

>> No.20676458

>>20676433
Will FB pump or dump on earnings?

>> No.20676576

>>20676458
same question but wiht shopify and spotify make feels like a good way to gamble this week

>> No.20676610

>>20676576
I dont want to gamble, i have a decent amount of FB has has fallen down to only 1% above my cost basis, so i might need to sell for breakeven and buy back in at a lower price. It was up like 10% for me a week ago

>> No.20676620

>>20676433
10% of the S&P 500 is reporting next week. Get some puts.

>> No.20676641

>>20676366
Looking into American steel makers. NUE, STLD, and CMC looked interesting. The latter two also recycle metals which is a business that seems not to have been hit too bad by corona-chan (judging by CMC's earnings). They haven't really gone anywhere in the past 10 years but if China trade tensions ramp up they could see an increase in demand.

Also, these two are more /ptg/ ones but GMO and UAMY are interesting as US-based rare metal miners (not that they're currently producing anything lol).

>> No.20676733

Why don't we just toss around ideas for what leveraged etfs we pick?
And if TQQQ looks like it might be puttering out temporarily we can load up some SQQQ for a little while.

>> No.20676794

>>20676733
Because i dont feel like day/swing trading 3x ETFs because i cant time the market for shit

>> No.20676903

>>20676794
TQQQ is usually time in the market unless you see a big news story break out like California shutting down again.

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>>20676433
this week will be nice

>> No.20676947

So, if I just wanted to put my money into some kind of index and forget about it, an S&P/NASDAQ (non-leveraged) ETF would be the way to go?

Swing trading isn't really for me.

>> No.20676978

>>20676947
Are you retarded anon?

Buy TQQQ.
>b-b-b-but you're not supposed to hodl long term!
Who fucking cares about boomers.

>> No.20677007

>>20676978
>Just lose all ur money like me

>> No.20677028

>>20676947
Spy and Qqq yes its that simple

>> No.20677047

>>20676947
Yes. Consider getting smallcap or midcap (Russell 2000 / Russell 1000 midcaps) exposure as well but overall an S&P500 index fund should do fine as long as you have a 10+ year time horizon. Find whichever has the lowest expense ratio & you'll be all set.

>> No.20677060

>>20676947
Yes.

>> No.20677064

>>20676978
Nasdaq has been pulling back this last week, could be continue so holding tqqq would be bad next week. China relations are going down and its hurting tech which drives the nasdaq

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>>20677007
Even in the .com burst, QQQ took 2 full years to drop from 110 to 20, and 9/11 also happened halfway through as well.

The tech industry now is different back then - QQQ is not backed by dumpster fire trash like Pets.com and the industry relies on tried and true tech giants like Google, Microsoft, Apple, etcetera. TQQQ is not going to make you "lose all your money" - stop being stupid.

>> No.20677096

>>20676947
>>20677047
One other thing - make sure you have some cash set aside as an emergency fund so you don't have to sell stocks to cover expenses (personally I'd do >6 months expenses but your choice). If you have to sell at a loss, the benefit of long HODLing goes away.

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I'm so fucking bored.

>> No.20677122

>>20677100
play pso2 with me

>> No.20677132

>>20671888
Any nak bros just here to wallow in their sorrow?

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>>20677100
DING DING DING DING! 9:30AM! The market is..

closed. :(

>> No.20677169

>>20677132
Any Jak bros here to swallow their cum?

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>>20676978
>>20677028
>>20677007
I'm gonna be honest, I still don't quite understand the downside to leveraged ETF's as explained above ( >>20674039 ).

Like, I get the math he's posting, but I don't really understand how it applies to the shares you buy of an ETF.

Take pic related for example. If I had bought a share of tqqq 10 years ago for a dollar, it would still be worth a hundred dollars today right? All the ups and downs between then and now wouldn't matter. I dont get how you're losing money if the stock eventually goes back up and always goes higher.

>> No.20677229

>>20677153
>no change
>already at home all the time
>flipping people off

>> No.20677255

This thread is so quiet. Is the stock market officially cancelled?

>> No.20677324

>>20677132
I hope it keeps going lower. I want to accumulate 100k shares.

>> No.20677328

>>20672347
Congrats it took me like a year to get it

>> No.20677369

>>20673971
Google “volatility drag”. Also if the underlying index somehow dropped 33% in a day the etf would go to 0.

>> No.20677400

>>20676641
I'm extremely skeptical of steel, but I'll look into them, thanks.

>> No.20677445

>>20676433
Soooo, buy Visa and PayPal on Monday? That'll be easy money, right?

>> No.20677454

>>20672347
'e knows

>> No.20677455

>>20676733
Just buy UPRO you morons. It’s the most stable and reliable 3x because it tracks the whole s&p. Don’t try and time a market drop. Buying a 3x inverse is always a bad idea because the market moves up more often than down.

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>>20672347

>> No.20677517

>>20677132
I'm going to throw my spare change into it for a while and maybe 6 years from now it'll blow up.

>> No.20677625
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>>20677213
The risk is that it can lose an insane amount of its value and it would take an insane amount of time to recover. If you lose 90% of your portfolio, you'd have to make 900% to get back to your original 100% investment. And losing 90% is a lot easier for 3x leveraged ETFs. Look at $NAIL for example. We went down hard after 2018 and it'll probably be a long time until you get back to those levels. So if you're a holder from back in 2018 you just wasted 2 years.

>> No.20677678

>>20672347
Welcome, you've found the cheat code to buying stocks. Although, the "tip" you're getting is lessened a bit by the potential "gains" you could be making.

EX) You sell a put for $MSFT at the 195 strike but it never drops to 195 and it keeps going up. It goes to 210. You keep your original money plus the premium but you miss out on the 195->210 gain per share. So it's basically having an entry plan while getting paid for your time while you wait to enter the position.

Definitely sell puts to enter a position if you don't mind waiting for an eventual dip.

>> No.20677753

>>20672110
AMD, KO, GPRO, LMT, NIO, TSLA, DIS, PLUG, PLAY, PYPL, XOM, NET and AMZN

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>>20677092
>Don't pull your money out of TQQQ, that would be silly!

>> No.20677895

SWTSX - I tend to like this over the S&P due to that most % of the S&P is the big 5 tech companies. So if those companies tank/dip, well the hit to your gains would be pretty bad. As was the case this week. Also it contains smaller companies which tend to grow faster than the large ones so in a rolling economy the potential for high gains is greater. Performance wise this is neck and neck with the VTI/VTSAX.

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>>20677213
>>20677625

Here's a good example of the risk with something like TQQQ. The NASDAQ 100 topped out at around 9750 before the crash. Its ATH post-crash was around 11000.

Meanwhile, TQQQ topped out at 119 before the crash, and only reached 125 at its highest after the crash. You were looking at a ~13% upside in the N100 and like a ~5% upside in TQQQ.

Now, neither the Nasdaq nor TQQQ are done moving for the year, and it's almost a certainty the Nasdaq will see higher highs before the election. However, it's not clear whether TQQQ will. If the Nasdaq slows, or has more tumultuous days due to troubling news and investor apathy about tech, TQQQ can see significant depreciation.

People here were posting JUST edits of Mohamed El Erian before the February/March crash. Doomposters were a laughing stock. We're not going to see another big market crash, but TQQQ's run might be over.

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>>20677894
Bear is a single company. TQQQ is a basket of 15+ top tech companies. Go back to sleep, Jim.

>> No.20678305

>>20672110
>>20676396
Might I suggest the following:

>Ticker "FIVX" - 4chan high growth ETF:
5% WKHS
5% NIO
5% NAK
5% SHLL
10% FRO
20% SILJ
20% TSLA calls
10% UVXY
10% cash (dry powder)

>Ticker "SIIP" - 4chan large cap ETF
10% MSFT
10% AMZN
10% AAPL
10% INTC
10% TSM
10% KO
10% PEP
10% XOM
10% MRO
10% LUV

>> No.20678552
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20678552

At the end of the week we need to reflect on the lessons we learned this week. For me that is going long on the inverse is better than shorting. I got killed on weak IV son my INTC puts, I would have had the same gains if I had just went 2x leverage long. Money seems to not just settle in cash when one entity fails, it tends to at least partly flow into the inverse. Thanks to the anon who posted the PM vs 1929 crash chart.
>long AMD instead of short INTC
>long SILJ than short DJIA
Remember that earnings matter.

>> No.20678580

>smg doesn't exist because OP is retarded
>check out rest of biz
>it's still pajeet ponzicoin scams where the only people that make money are the developers and their friends (how is this still legal? hello SEC and local authorities?)
>chainlink, nobody even knows what it does, obviously a scam, took 4 years to go 300% or something and these shitbrained cumstains think it's a miracle and that they will "make it"
cryptocurrency was a mistake and is a complete joke at this point

>> No.20678608

Transgirl here
My wife wants to do porn for money with me but she doesn't understand how badly I'm getting stalked and havve to leave country...

>> No.20678622

>>20678552
The lesson i learned is DON'T FUCKING BUY OPTIONS ON A PENNY STOCK WITH 700% IV

>> No.20678623
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>>20678552

Mine is that buying the dip is stupid when you're not zoomed out.

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>>20678552
>2x leverage long
meant short

>> No.20678694
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APPLE ORDERED TO REMOVE ALL GAMES ON ITS APP IN CHINA THAT DO NOT HAVE APPROVAL FROM THE GOVERNMENT STARTING AUG 1 - STATE MEDIA
>APPLE ORDERED TO REMOVE ALL GAMES ON ITS APP IN CHINA THAT DO NOT HAVE APPROVAL FROM THE GOVERNMENT STARTING AUG 1 - STATE MEDIA
APPLE ORDERED TO REMOVE ALL GAMES ON ITS APP IN CHINA THAT DO NOT HAVE APPROVAL FROM THE GOVERNMENT STARTING AUG 1 - STATE MEDIA
>APPLE ORDERED TO REMOVE ALL GAMES ON ITS APP IN CHINA THAT DO NOT HAVE APPROVAL FROM THE GOVERNMENT STARTING AUG 1 - STATE MEDIA

>> No.20678757

$SGBG - Inverse of the $GBG Index
>PND Ultra Autistic Short GBG
GNUS
KTOV
UONE
NKLA
HEXO
CGC
TOPS
CRON
OCGN
IVR
SHIP

$TNDS
>4ch Bulletproof Index
TQQQ
TMF
GLDJ
SILJ
SOXL
XOM
LUV
MA
LMT

$FOMO
>4ch Recent Hits Index
WKHS
NIO
SOLO
BLNK
CLSK
SHLL
KTOV
DENN
TQQQ
TSM

>> No.20678779

>>20673765
>Goes down on one of the years largest trading days

Heh, nothing personelle, kid.

>> No.20678786

>>20678694
Old news, and it's for games that don't really matter.

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2020-06-22/apple-set-to-nix-thousands-of-unlicensed-iphone-games-in-china

>> No.20678811

>trump admin is in the talks of a second stimulus check
should it come to happen, how would I take advantage

>> No.20678817

>>20678666
To a childish gambler like you long short makes no difference you always lose

>> No.20678856

>>20678811
buy literally any asset other than cash & bonds

>> No.20678911
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Insiders know

>> No.20678936

>>20678911
So bug Monday selloff?

>> No.20678964

>>20678911
>stimulus bill coming
>bearish
Insiders are retarded then

>> No.20678979

>>20678964
good news=bear market

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Just put it all in BRKB and let the man do the work for you

>> No.20679006

>>20678979
Yeah thats why the coronavirus scare led to such a massive pump right

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Just finished my Denny's breakfast! Now I'm bored and sleepy already. I need the market to watch while I do other stuff.. Guess I'm just gonna read a book or something. Thanks for reading my blog.

>> No.20679034

>>20679006
Corona was actually good news in disguise.

>> No.20679042

>>20671888
I went in heavy on NAK yesterday morning. Then forced to double down a few hours later. Then triple down out of desperation. I am now all in at 2.177

Fuck you all

Its only 235 shares but God damnit man, my swing trading days are done until I get get out of this.

>> No.20679103

>>20679034
some create another virus and crash the market

>> No.20679128

>>20679024
Nice pedo cartoon faggot

>> No.20679156

>>20679128
There's nothing wrong with loving little girls, anon.

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>>20679024
I'm in the gym
That's it. That's my whole day...

>> No.20679224

>>20678964
WE'RE GETTING A STIMULUS BILL. CLEARLY THE ECONOMY IS JIM & FUCKING DANDY!!! WHY ARE THESE RETARDS BEARISH!!! REEEE!!!!!!

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>>20679128
What's wrong with cute art with no lewd intentions..

>> No.20679251

>>20675596
>>20675662
>People will always need a phone and computer, who the fuck even lives in a building lmao
NAIL has been pretty good to me the past few months, exited most of my position when it was up on Thursday to lock in those sweet gains but plan on buying back in next week when the current downtreand bottoms out. Its pretty undervalued at the moment, but you can get bogged hard still if you buy in at a local top.
Contrary to what the smooth brains on here say, construction is picking up (not to mention the riot rebuilding) . I actually work in the architecture field; people were pretty spooked during the height of nothingburger and some firms had layoffs. Shit still needs to be built though. If you've driven through texas in the past couple years, construction is going wild and they're building shit all over the damn place.

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20679272

why isn't there a 10x version of SQQQ?

>> No.20679293

>DXY
AAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

>> No.20679309

why are bears so consistently stupid

>> No.20679357

>>20679251
I mean I agree that shit needs to be built but I just don't have high hopes for real estate as people start failing to pay their mortgages or being able to afford rent - for either personal living or small businesses. I can personally see the need for building supplies dropping like a rock sometime in early 2021. I wouldn't play too big of a position in $NAIL in the coming months.

If you've driven through any college town or urban cities, you'll notice a bunch of empty places.. think it goes both ways.. I just don't see it going up too much that's all.

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>>20671888
>DOWJ 12k EOY

NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO

>> No.20679360

>>20678996

BRK.B is for my taxable account. My Roth is for the divvies.

>> No.20679419

>>20679293
>Euro becoming the world's reserved currency EoY if the dollar drops at the same speed
Who would have thunk, eh?

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>>20672191

>> No.20679445
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>>20679293
KEK

Enjoying all those stock market """gains""" fellas???

>> No.20679458

>>20678694
Who the fuck cares? Kek'd

>> No.20679528

>>20679445
>Enjoying all those stock market """gains""" fellas???
well... yes, because if you held cash you would be losing money
you sure you asked the right question?

>> No.20679583

>>20678608
Is this a meme?

>> No.20679589

>>20679042
How many fucking times did we have to tell you. In every single shill post the overarching concensus was “DONT PUT IN MORE THAN YOU CAN LOSE, THIS IS EITHER 10x OR GOING TO 0 OVER THE NEXT COUPLE YEARS”
You have nobody but yourself to blame

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>>20679445
>Dollar hits parity with the Yen
>SPY hits 1200
At least the bears lose it all

>>20679528
We didn't exactly have much to gain this week tbf
Market high velocity crabbed

>> No.20679616

>>20679589
He holds 200 shares of that penny. That's what? 500 dollars?

>> No.20679650

>>20679616
Lmao these yards crying over $100 thought they were gonna be Rockefeller

>> No.20679689
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>>20677092
>QQQ is not backed by dumpster fire trash like Pets.com
*blocks ur path*

>> No.20679715

>>20679616
Yes. A little over 500 dollars

>> No.20679733

>>20677968
Good point. I’m 80/20 QQQ/2xQQQ
I think I will hold both. Might sell my TQQQ if the downward trend continues though. Tough decisions.

>> No.20679734

>>20679689
hey at least they have... an .exe that sends your webcams feed to others with the program? it's revolutionary you know...

>> No.20679735

>>20679650
Pretty close. Down 86.15 right now.

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>>20679689
School is cancelled for a majority of colleges and probably public schools soon. And a ton of companies are still using Zoom (probably permanently too). And ZM is like, <1.5% of the QQQ basket. It'll be fine.

>> No.20679801

>>20679715
Boohoo you shouldn't gamble on stocks unless you have $10,000 and a clue. I love it when you retards suffer while bragging

>> No.20679820

>>20679801
Fick off jew

>> No.20679850

>>20679801
Every cent helps if you invest smart and consistently. Imagine paying a 1k into QQQ every year. Twice that when it drops 20% from its last ATH.
You'd make money. A lot actually.

200 dollars in pennies is not the way though

>> No.20679855

>>20679761
Man am I glad that shit is banned on my network. The Service Desk team loves telling people to fuck off every time it gets mentioned.

>> No.20679879

>>20679850
500

>> No.20679883

>>20679689
QQQ is 50% AMZN, FB, AAPL, MSFT and GOOG
Tesla could go bankrupt and its effect on QQQ would fall into a normal market fluctuation.

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>>20679850
It did better than I expected.
20 years, starting with 1k and adding 1k a year adjusted for inflation.

>> No.20680145

Look, I've been pumping 100 dollars a week into my 401k for a few years now and I want to fuck around on the side. Why everyone act like stupid jews talking about oh you can't play the stock market unless you are already rich. Fuck you

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>>20679272

Why isn't there a 100x version of TQQQ? Why don't they just buy 100 shares of each stock instead of 1?

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>>20680066
Jews fear the retail investor.

>> No.20680201

>>20680176
meant for
>>20680145

>> No.20680226

>>20679180
I went for a run.
Now I'm back inside.

What's next, friends? How do we profit from IRL social isolation?

>> No.20680258

>>20678911

Funny thing about this is that the actual crash was still a couple months out from the peak of insider sales in December. Naturally it's about getting out before shit hits the fan rather than as shit is hitting the fan, but food for thought.

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>>20676433
>30th
>Amazon

Can't wait

>> No.20680405

>>20678911
Looks like to me you still have a few months from the time Goldbergshekelsilver parks his cash to an actual crash.

>> No.20680478

Last earnings season I made a lot playing tech earnings, specifically cloud shit. Tech doesn’t seem like the place to be atm tho, so what industry (if any) should I focus on for this season?

>> No.20680509

>>20680478

The cash under your mattress industry.

>> No.20680544

I'm an insane suicidal retard and I put 10k on a random meme biopharmaceutical pennystock and I will leave all my money there until I'm rich. Thank you for coming to my Ted talk.

>> No.20680572

>>20680509
That will not make me money. I already have some gold and silver money holdings for the long run so I feel safe with that. But I question whether any company is going to have as reliable a run up to their earnings this season as they did last season.

>> No.20680573

>>20676433
Earnings season should be 1 single week.

>> No.20680607

>>20680478
Fintech.
Large margins, stubbornly captive consumer base. Far less prone to capex volatility like utilities and far less exposed to credit volatility like actual banks.

>> No.20680616

>>20680544
God bless people like you. At least you have you pumped some poor soul's bags instead of giving money to a fucking casino

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I still can't believe how many cucks on /smg/ bought into and continue to buy into shit like this
>>>/wsg/3559345

>> No.20680665

>>20676433
>RTX
>XOM
>BA
>SHOP
>AMZN
>MCD
This is basically boomvestor week

>> No.20680708

>>20678911
>>20678936
Sell off when they finish the sell off so probably by September.

>> No.20680795

>>20680640
smg bought amrn?

>> No.20680874

>>20680640
You say that as if the entire biotech space isn't like this. The only tickers worth anything in that sector that are large caps like REGN or JNJ.

>> No.20680940

>>20680607
What are some fintech tickers? I would like to do some research this weekend.

>> No.20680972

I hope this "lockdown" shit happens till winter. Extend my early retirement as long as possible. Hell I'm still getting paid in full so keep the lockdown a coming baby. I'm having fun and I freely admit it. August is around the bend, 2400 in more govt money is on tap to be tossed out like candy.

>> No.20681042

>>20680940
SQ, PYPL, MELI, V, MA, AX, QTWO
IPO to watch for probably late 2020/early 2021: Marqeta
The only problem is that a lot of people knew this going into April so there might not be much more momentum in them for now except for the smaller ones which are, of course, riskier.

>> No.20681085

>>20680640
I've made lots of money doing it. You just cannot hold it longer than 2-3 hours or you are fucked.

>> No.20681130

AMRN - yeah I made green on them but as soon as they went all high and mighty "we going it alone" shit, I knew they were doomed. You don't reject Big Pharma and live to tell the story. Also the clock is ticking on the patent lockdown rights on the drug. 9 years and the lock cracks open freeing generic versions to flood the market. So yeah I made my green then I bailed.

>> No.20681195

>>20680972
>>20681130

Hey ONTX anon.

>> No.20681218

>>20679583
Nope sadly

>> No.20681342

>>20681042
I was considering straddles or strangles bought before market close for earnings before open next day or earnings after close and then just selling at open. There should be enough movement one way or another to come out with a humble profit in relative safety right?

>> No.20681383

holy fuck so many options... im thinking oil is looking like the next best bet for a run

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Dump monday morning? Hold to earnings? Hold longer term?

>> No.20681498

>>20681450
With the run up last week it may already be "pricing in" earnings for this week. The IV crush will probably be monstrous but Intel seems content to be mediocrity.

>> No.20681523
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>Wake up
>Sees what Musk has tweeted
I can't explain the happiness of being invested in Tesla right now

>> No.20681526

This week is going to be a very long one. Just waiting for NIO july sales early august but have to deal with a whole week of nothing.

>> No.20681717

>>20681383
Why on earth would you think that?

>> No.20682008

>>20681717
Fall is coming up which causes a surge in oil prices. If anything happens on the political stage with Russia or Saudi Arabia prices will go haywire. There is a lot on the line with growing tensions with China as well. It's been too quite.

>> No.20682035

>>20681526
NIO? I haven't settled on a few picks this week yet, either for long term holds or weekly/daily swings.

>> No.20682350

>>20682008
Oil isn’t going to be recovering anytime soon, so I’m not too sure what move you think is smart to make. Were still in a lockdown, thus dropping global oil demand. It doesn’t look like it’s going away anytime soon either.

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whaat kinf of smg does not say it is smg, me schizhophrenic brain does not compute so only by sheer uck was i able to navigate here

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5PT5CCLKcQg&list=RDMM5PT5CCLKcQg&start_radio=1

>> No.20682427

>they're still stuck discussing oil stocks while wti futures have gone +420% since the dip
stay retarded smg! never make money

>> No.20682433

>>20682008
Then play the futures contracts. Nothing happens in oil until those rise first. Even if futures contracts seems too intimidating, there are certainly ETFs that will move sooner, and higher than actual oil companies for the short to mid term. BNO, for example, is composed primarily of Brent oil futures contracts.

>> No.20682454

>>20682350
We don't need much more than any of the oil tycoons in Europe saying fuck the US for prices to skyrocket

>> No.20682504

>>20682427
When I look at oil processing and exploration tickers, not a single one looks like it’s in a healthy recovery. So what the fuck are you on about ?

>> No.20682540

>>20682504
>he doesn't even know oil futures
just lmaoing at smg

>> No.20682587

what’s the next stock to jump 10000%? i have exactly $1 to spend.

>> No.20682617

>>20675819
SILJ GDJX

>> No.20682724

I'm going to be making 2k a month...
Should I just run away and attempt to make more?

>> No.20682729

There are people in this thread RIGHT NOW that didn’t buy Tesla at sub $200 or even sub $400 a few months ago, and they are giving (You) “”””””advice”””””” on what stocks to buy. Let that sink in.

>> No.20682741

bitcoin is the futures when futures isn't trading. don't bother debating with me because i already won

>> No.20682765

>>20682617
P much these. Maybe a value stock thats still trading at 50% of what it was before covid like CAKE you could 2x your money in 1 year

>> No.20682824

>>20682741
people have already tracked this and it doesn't predict anything

>> No.20683048

DAL - your looking at least doubling your wad or more (60 per) if you just sit on your ass and wait for it. More once you add in the Divvy payouts once they reinstate it (0.40 x 4). I mean god forbid you just kick back and wait for a wad of green to come knocking on your door.. Far better than watching your investment wad just go up in smoke on some gamble play ain't it..

>> No.20683224

>>20683048
yea, go head, go all in genius.

>> No.20683247

>>20683048
Way safer investments than airlines

>> No.20683606
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>>20671888
BITCOIN IS GOING TO HIT $15,000 EOY. HYPE MIGHT EVEN TAKE IT BEYOND $20,000 GET IN BEFORE THE TRAIN LEAVES THE STATION.

>> No.20683660

>>20683606
Cringe

>> No.20683726

>>20683048
I'm a boomer too since I'm planning on walking up the stairs with oil, but I genuinely think airlines will have to raise capital by diluting shares. If they open up, but can't fill to capacity and they're going to bleed money.

>> No.20684219

>>20679357
Holy shit, slow weekend thread is slow.
I would agree with your perspective regarding residential/privately owned sites, in my experience most of the big money is with greasy developers or large commercial companies (who may be looking to capitalize on the inbound real estate cheapies). Abandoned buildings are a real bad sign if an area is on the decline, Detroit style, but neglect in a recovering area = more remodel/renovation projects. I think this year's election will be the deciding factor though. NAIL's chart isn't for the faint of heart, probably safe to cash out before 2021 as you said but short term I see it as more likely to pump than dump.

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> I bought SHLL at $17
> I held it when it was $32
> SHLL is now $18

Why am I so fucking stupid?

>> No.20684413

>>20674039
How is this different from non-leveraged? -3% at 1x = 970 USD from 1000. S&P then rises 3% from 970 = 999.1 USD.

>> No.20684590

>>20683048
Weekly DAL covered calls aren't the way to go?
What would you do?

>> No.20684849

>>20683048
airlines are really really fucked.

>> No.20685480

MSFT pump when? The dump made no fucking sense, in no way was it correlated to earnings. Just retarded robinzoomers panic selling.

>> No.20685548

>>20685480
I hope you bought the dip. I did.

>> No.20685569

>>20685480
>a whale dumps THREE POINT THREE MILLION SHARES
>Must be the robinzoomers!

>> No.20685692

>>20685548
I bought at 206, so I’m extremely pissed off.

>>20685569
Yeah, panic selling as a reaction to the initial gap down. That dip should have been bought up like hell yet it kept dipping because people got spooked and sold.

>> No.20686466

I can't take it anymore. Open the futurres already!

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>>20685569
>>20685692
I mean if you had 3.3 million shares and you knew you could dump then take it all back at a hefty profit, wouldn't you do it? It is the free market after all.

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>>20677968
>>20677625
Thanks for these posts, anon. I know I'm 6 hours late but if you're still in this thread it was really helpful. I understand leveraged etf's a lot better now.

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