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20539942 No.20539942 [Reply] [Original]

WHAT. THE FUCK. WAS THAT?!

Another day, another ATH.

Is this the $1 waiting room?

MUSH, wagie.

>> No.20539991
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20539991

$4 EOY

>> No.20540053

>>20539942
Realistically, I'm thinking $0.50 EOY. I don't have a huge bag, but I think it'll be worth it. Unironically the first token I found early on that I actually think could be big. Feels good desu

>> No.20540081
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20540081

it just doesnt feel real
this is the only token i’ve ever bought. my first and my last. and every day it just moons and moons and moons
were we chosen?

>> No.20540094

>>20539942
>>20539991
>>20540053
>>20540081
>he doesn't know why
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=25hFyjQ0PJI

>> No.20541034

Dumb threads all day now it's pumping where's my poos at

$1.00 tonight

>> No.20541061
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>>20540053
>>20541034
2 pink ID's buy buy buy

>> No.20541503
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20541503

It's because of the court case: >>20537870
https://twitter.com/kmobiledev/status/1285364982348238850

>> No.20541998

>>20541503
Imagine when these cases are weekly. this is the reality. we tried to warn you.

>> No.20542125

>>20541061
roll

>> No.20542421

I love pnk. Clement and his band of Frenchies will make me rich.

>> No.20542473

>>20539942

Sires....

I can feel biz about to fomo into pnk and it feels fantastic.

>> No.20542510
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20542510

link? never heard of it

>> No.20542764

we can't let drumpf get the nuclear codes,

>> No.20543316

10 cent waiting room.

>> No.20543383

>>20543316
next week sir?

>> No.20543499
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20543499

>>20543316
put up or shut up nibba
https://omen.eth.link/#/0xb485c94df8c5a61b7d0751434a4628bd9e244108

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>>20543499
lol that market is lame. try this one. way more exciting. https://omen.eth.link/#/0x510266cb33c49af981b47066f9ccff6130debc64

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YOU BOUGHT, RIGHT ANON??

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>>20544328
there have been 0 hurricanes so far, and that's not the norm - so that's what makes this market exciting.

>> No.20544392

>>20544328
imagine being such a bitch ass nigger that you bet on the fucking weather instead of on a token. This is /biz/ not /wind/ so fuck off retard.

>> No.20544398

>>20539942
I currently hold 3k.

I have 2 ETH sitting around, should I use it all to get more PNK, or get some RSR?

>> No.20544437

>>20544392
omen uses kleros. do you not want more dapps using kleros?

>> No.20544556
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>>20544398
>I currently hold 3k.
did someone say something? was that the wind?

>> No.20544718

>>20544556
FUCK

>> No.20544783

>>20542421
Are they all french? When can I buy a dip?

>> No.20544995

>>20544339
Bugs me that people keep putting fucking roman shit in my PNK memes. It's Athens, you mongoloids. It's like making memes about the British Empire with uniquely American symbols and attire.

>> No.20545021

>>20544995
Athens, Rome, they all look the fucking same

>> No.20545090

>>20545021
I know you're trying to make me mad and it's working. I don't even mind the indian shit in my PNK content, I just want people to know that there is a very obvious difference between ancient Greece and the fucking roman empire. FFS AMPL is taking all the good Greek imagery because they're smart enough to understand very basic history and what the AMPL logo means. PNK memes remain garbage. I say this as a heavy PNK holder that thinks it's the future of small-time civil law. Fucking disgraceful.

>> No.20545172

>>20545090
>PNK
>Pinakion (small copper thingies carried by ancient Greeks)

Ooohhhhhhhh.....

But they should also make Napoleon and Grande Armée memes because the devs are French

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20545189

WHAT
THE
FUCK
WAS
THAT
BTC Ƀ0.00000666
BTC Ƀ0.00000666
BTC Ƀ0.00000666
SATAN TRIPS CONFIRMS MOON MISSIONS $6.66 EOY

>> No.20545223

>>20545189
Oh shit, this is ATH right?

>> No.20545363

>>20545172
It's also all over the website. The 404 page says "something went wrong in Athens" with the Parthenon in the background. It's just not hard to get this right.

>> No.20545528

>>20545189
That's my greek shit

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>>20540094
BASED!!!

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7 CENT WAITING ROOM
LETS GOoooOOO

>> No.20546016

OOOOOOOooooooooooOOOOOOOOOOOOOOooooooooooo were gonna make it sirs

>> No.20546094

>>20546016
Sirs, my village was not done accumulating. Please do the needful and dump.

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>>20544328
Damn nigger
I coulda bet it was gonna rain n sheiiiit

>> No.20546200

>>20539942
I bet that faggot who was fudding PNK yesterday is seething right now.. $1 eoy is FUD

>> No.20546303

>>20546200
No, not really. Bsed on the current disputed defi $ amount, the price can only top by 20c at 100% defi arbitration through Kleros and remain viable. Enjoy the 4x frens

>> No.20546322

Fuck it I bought another 1M I know it may correct but I can't be bothered to watch anymore.

>> No.20546327

>>20546303
care to break down those numbers?

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I dedicate this next one to some very special people in my life, this is for my pinkies.
>I wanna be your sledgehammer

>> No.20546377

>>20540081

Well, it's no Orion Protocol but it's a great project with a bright future

>> No.20546483

>>20546303
You're pulling numbers out of your ass at this point, just stop. We get it, you missed out.

>> No.20546514

>>20546327
$1.5 billion is dispute in defi
750,000 pnk tokens

Paying more than 10% on your arbitration recovery cost defeats the purpose of a cheap alternative

10% of 1.5 bil is $150 mill, your market cap for pnk if, and only if it gets 100% of the disputed cases through its service. Any token amount higher is overvalued speculation.

The total disputed $ amount in defi will go up no doubt, but smart contract business' want to eliminate disputable factors, not just merely reduce overhead on them. Or offer products as 100% trustless after initial agreement with a "no arbitration" type clause in the contract

>> No.20546550

>>20546483
Oh and those numbers were calculated from Kleros' target market data and tokenomics , so that's on them.

>> No.20546575

>>20539991
999 confirmed

>> No.20546634

>>20546514
lame fud, clearly left behind by pnk
$4 sirs

>> No.20546701

>>20546303
Nobody who has read the whitepaper thinks that this thing stops at defi arbitration. Even if you weren't completely inventing those numbers, which you are, you'd still be laughably wrong about what this thing can do..

>> No.20546742

>>20546634
No one's refuted it. I actually do this because pnk was on my buy list until I did the numbers.

1000x's only happen with big business money, and Kleros does not attract that.
Smart contracts will void under Kleros arbitration if the business is smart enough to avoid arbitration in the first place. Every big business does this.

So you're left with small fry consumer arbitration which won't pump pnk by anything amazing by crypto standards.

We all want 100x or more, pnk cannot feasibly do that without the market 25x and big business allowing any payments to be disputed, which they will avoid like the fucking plague.

>> No.20546751

>>20546514
>focuses his 'analysis' on one aspect of what Kleros can be used for
>bases price prediction on current market estimation
Now I'm pretty confident you're a huge faggot. Just buy Kleros and stop acting like a TA guru.

>> No.20546777

>>20546742
I am refuting it. You don't understand what Kleros is for. It does not end with defi arbitration. it begins there. If you even just did ten minutes of randomly clicking shit on the website you would know this by osmosis. Bad fud. You are capable of better than this. See me after class.

>> No.20546853

I dont see PNK on kucoin?

>> No.20546862

>>20546853
Uniswap

>> No.20546863

>>20546701
$1.5 bill in disputed defi capital is in the whitepaper
There are 750k tokens to pay for Kleros' services. The rest is math, and %spend on money recovery which exists in business right now. You can apply this to any field, but then pnk just competes with the old guard in the pre existing arbitration markets, which they then have to become another tech start up, not a first in space.

Defi aims to eliminate this space, Kleros os retarded enough to wedge it back in there.

>> No.20546927

>>20546751
This isn't meme lines, just whether big business will pay for the token and service.
My bet is, they won't. If I'm wrong, ok. If I'm right, you bought a consumer token when there are large corporate demand tokens out there.

>> No.20546993

>>20546863
https://kleros.io/whitepaper.pdf

Fucking read it retard. Section 6 is what you're looking for. If you have questions about how this works, just ask them. Don't spend all this time doing fud math when you can just clear up your misconception by looking at the whitepaper.

That's all immediate. Look at their programs and ambassadors. Why so many lawyers and judges for a small-time defi arbitration platform? Because it's not even close to just that. If this thing takes off it could entirely disrupt an expensive and unreliable private arbitration industry. It's not even a remote stretch of the imagination if you know about how law and private arb works. You don't know how big this idea can become.

>> No.20547073

>>20546927
I agree with you anon. It seems retarded to ever expect the legal system to just adopt blockchain in the next 20 years, if ever. I see no real life use for this apart from meme cases, and expect it to get regulated to hell. It would seem many people agree in this since if you look at the chart it goes up and down with such high volatility that is incredibly unstable, even for crypto. At this point this is just a "buy some and if you re lucky you make a lot if not tou lose it all" scheme. Pure gamble, no intelligent investing.

>> No.20547128

I just hit the button and exchanged half a Btc for Kleros. Have I just suicided myself?

>> No.20547148

>>20547128
If you consider being smothered in poontang suicide, yes.

>> No.20547398

>>20546993
Ok, either I'm a brainlet in large scale legal scaling or the use case isn't screaming at me like other tokens.

Which is a shame given that Kleros and pnk tick low mcap and solid team boxes

>> No.20547424
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>>20547398
Expand your mind. Right now Kleros is too big brain for you.

>> No.20547450

>>20547424
So explain. Crowdsourcing and privatization of every legal proceeding on the planet?

>> No.20547462

>>20547450
Not going to spoon feed you anon. DYOR

>> No.20547471

>>20547450
ngmi

>> No.20547475

>>20547450
Dig deeper. We're taking over whole industries. You may laugh, until you see it. But I assure you, it's coming.

>> No.20547513

>>20539942
>>20545774
imagine wasting graphic design talent to meme this shitcoin. shitcoiners are paying graphic designers to force memes now. it won't work, nobody gives a shit about kleros.

>> No.20547550

>>20547513
Imagine being this salty..

>> No.20547562

Should I get some?

>> No.20547606

>>20547562
I got some

>> No.20547673

>>20547550
salty of what? this shitcoin won't exist in 5 years. Can't compete with better tech like AVA.

>> No.20547700

>>20547673
You do seem pretty salty, anon..

>> No.20547721

>>20547673
reminds me of LINK.

THIS shitcoin? THIS is a shitcoin. Surely it cannot compete with SHITCOIN X

>Kleros has partnered with SHITCOIN X

50x's

>> No.20547755

>>20547721
imagine if link somehow partners with pnk

>> No.20547760

>>20547700
>>20547721
this project will survive if it switches to ava. using ethereum is a nono.

>> No.20547858

>>20547450
Literally google private arbitration And read for five minutes. There is no leap of the imagination required to go from what Kleros is currently actively doing (private arbitration) and anything you can see or click on that google results page. This is what it is for. Courts do more than criminal law. Any civil suit involving money can be done by Kleros. Congrats, you got me to spoon feed you.

>> No.20547866

>>20547760
lmao

>> No.20547934

>>20547755
Kleros is almost identical to link on a functional level. It’s just designed for things that can’t be quantified. Everyone who knows how both work should be aware of this.

>> No.20547965

>>20547934
i've got a stack of link and pnk for this reason
covering both oracles, both subjective and objective

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>>20547965
Well then I’ll see you at the yacht club

>> No.20548161

>>20547965
>>20547934
These anons fucking GET IT

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WHO made this I bought more kleros because i really needed this fucking laugh.

>> No.20548422

>>20548291
Vitalik is intentionally FUDing while he accumulates

>> No.20548607

>>20547858
Ok so I did -
www.globalarbitrationnews.com/international-arbitration-statistics-2018-another-busy-year-for-arbitral-institutions/amp/

Total international Arbitration market dispute value is $184.32 billion usd.

This ok, but, significantly less than most other sectors other big dick defi is aiming for. Bond market for Link is $1 trillion. Just for that sector.

>> No.20548693

>>20548422
cope, the post.

>> No.20548722

>>20548607
yeah link is aiming for trillion+ dollar markets, and link would need to be staked (adding hugely to the price)
pnk on the other hand would probably have to be valued by income, so if it captures 10 billion in income per year it'd be valued at 10*x (where x is the income multiple, because if an initial value of 100 dollers made you profit of 100 dollars a year (aka 100% profit) then the initial value would end up being much higher)

>> No.20548791

>>20548607
The link you posted doesn’t include most private arb in the US or, I assume, most other countries. But wow how did these goal posts get all the way over here? $1.5 billion was your original number and 100x that is no good?

Next add in small claims courts from every country with a bad legal system. Then add all civil claims from countries with really bad legal systems. If it can do that even remotely well it’s game over for most civil courts. For real though stay poor. If you can’t make the connection between this and link, you don’t understand either one of them.

>> No.20548796

>>20548722
The million dollar question still stands, will large companies go with crowdsourced juries just for cost savings? I'm still leaning no.

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>>20548722
>>20548607
finding more sources for income in places
https://www.ftijournal.com/article/trends-in-international-arbitration
what's a realistic expectation on capturing these kinds of values though?

>> No.20548818

>>20548796
why wouldn't they though?
the modus operandi for big companies is saving money in all possible ways

>> No.20548839

>>20548818
In this case though is it not winning the disputed amount, and eliminating risk of losing as much as possible?

>> No.20548876

>>20548803
The other anons 3rd world country example is good here, but in countries with competant counsel and mediators, why switch?

>> No.20548877

>>20548796
>will large companies go with crowdsourced juries just for cost savings?
If they determine it is cheaper than implementing their own system.

>> No.20548904

>>20548803
1700 billion dollars. If Kleros can capture even a 0,1% of that pie that's 2 billion.

>> No.20548947

Guys do you think Kleros will ever reach $5? What are the odds?

>> No.20548953

>>20548904
those are 2014 numbers, too
i'd have to extrapolate but i imagine it's much more now

>> No.20549004

>>20548839
i'm not sure how they figure those costs
i imagine they write off X% every year due to "loss, damage, and other shit" so as long as the court system isn't causing an excess there i could totally see them paying eth for "when i need it' arbitration VS constantly needing to staff call centers for disputes

>> No.20549043

>>20548876
>>20548876
The market cap is 30 million fucking dollars and you need a reason why it will take over first world legal systems before you buy it? Ffs man just admit you’re wrong and go buy PNK now that you’ve heard why you were literally at least 100x off in your fud post

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>>20549043
I'm autistic in that I have to naysmith and critique everything in an investment I'm interested in until I am 100% satisfied. Anons take it as "fud" but I don't care about short term price action because of weak hands.

Unironically thanks anons itt, taking a position shortly. Seriously, thanks

>> No.20549266

>>20549234
Fair enough. Good luck anon

>> No.20549463

Trying to get some PNK through Uniswap but Coinbase won't let me send the ETH to my wallet. How long do I have to wait? Coinbase already took the money out of my bank account.

>> No.20549521

>>20549463
sometimes with coinbase you have to make a wallet "verified" before you can send to it (it takes a couple days)
coinbase is having training wheels on, but it's really good getting normies on board
if you want to be trading your eth i say set up a metamask wallet and use that

>> No.20549588

>>20549521
Probably faster to make a cb pro account, transfer there, then out to mm but it’s been a while so I’m not sure if that still works.

>> No.20549671

>>20549588
idk, i've had an account for years and i've got certain "verified" wallets that it will only send out to those
i've not added to the verified list in a while but i think it takes a couple days

>> No.20549907

>>20549671
>>20549521
>>20549588
I would check out MetaMask too but I can't send my ETH there either. Everything totally locked in my CB account. I also bought LINK a couple weeks ago on CB and that's locked too. I can trade stuff, but not send or transfer. My ID is verified so I don't understand.

>> No.20549908

>>20546777
Checked

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>>20539942
Was about to buy yesterday. Wake up and it's $0.08 CAD. I thought I had more time.... Bought in regardless, just wish I hit it when it was $0.05

>> No.20550162

>>20550112
Don't worry I have the feeling that it is still early. In reddit nobody is talking about Kleros yet.

>> No.20550175

>>20549907
if you JUST bought the ETH with cash then it takes like, fuck i forget, like 7 days for it to "clear" before it's spendable i think

>> No.20550199

>>20549907
>>20550175
this. coinbase is awful. it depends on how you buy. debit cards / bank account are different. you have to pay attention to what it says.

>> No.20550265

>>20550199
they do it to prevent scam
>hack into someone's account
>buy eth on that account
>send eth to their wallet
>money stolen

i get where they're coming from, but it's a huge pain when you wanna do a quick turn around

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Alright boys should I buy linkies or pinkies?

>> No.20551532

>>20551037
PNK is still on the ground floor compared to what’s coming.