/biz/ - Business & Finance

[Anonymous No.20461762]

Let's think through the recent elaborate FUD logically.

Clearly there is no actual substance to the FUD, so I won't dwell too much on that. Let's think about the motivation of the people who wrote it.

It could just be someone entertaining themselves, a 4channer. However, they've put a lot of time and money into this

-Website purchase in Dec 2019
-Attempted to purchase a Zeus Capital twitter handle a few weeks ago
-Paid for a hacked list of chainlink ICO participants

Based on the above, it's clear that the goal of the writers was to have a substantial negative effect on the price of Chainlink.

Given that, there are two possible theories.

1) Classic market manipulation "Short and distort". Short something, put out fake negative news on it, hopefully make money. However Chainlink is not a good coin to do this with. It's highly liquid and mostly held by whales so you're not going to manage to get much shorting gains. Also given it's so volatile lately shorting is not that attractive/chance you get margin called. Based on that I'd say shorting is out of the question for their motivation.

Which brings
2) They themselves are buying large amounts of LINK and want to limit their impact.

Think about it. The recent pump started in China. China is setting up BSN nodes which use Chainlink. Clearly there are some MASSIVE Chinese buyers. The website also has a chinese translation which suggests the makers are Chinese.

When you put it all together, this explanation makes the most sense. There's a huge Chinese buyer who put out that report to limit the impact they're having.

Bulllish AF. There is more news coming, and a Microsoft partnership at the end of August. Strap in boys.

[Anonymous No.20461891]

But why not just crash BTC like they've done every other time LINK started a pump?
It worked before, what made this pump different?

[Anonymous No.20461894]

Here's my theory:
Fuck niggers

[Anonymous No.20461924]

You must be a brainlet if you think for example that the FUD on Reddit is just "le 4chan pranksters deluding muh ribbitors"

It's a major fucking discord tranny controlled FUD probably with bots downvoting considering the comments get like +200 negatives in matter of hours

[Anonymous No.20461930]

>>20461762
>Let's think through the recent elaborate FUD logically.

I read this and then actually laughed. I'm going to post this now, and then read the rest, the ridiculous conspiracy theories linkers are concocted today.

[Anonymous No.20461941]

>>20461762
>There is more news coming
This is literally always true with chainlink

[Anonymous No.20461957]

>>20461930
Yep, just as fucking dumb as I thought!

[Anonymous No.20461967]

>Microsoft partnership

Ah yes just like that great intel and Google partnership?? Link=scam

[Anonymous No.20461968]

Can we talk about ALGO added to Coinbase 24hr ago.

[Anonymous No.20461985]

>>20461957
Mind elaborating, oh Gifted One??

[Anonymous No.20461993]

>>20461968
What? It was added a couple months after LINK was

[Anonymous No.20461995]

i fud link so hard these past 2 years, i developed a habit. i will still fud even at $1000

[Anonymous No.20462106]

>>20461993
On July 16, Coinbase abruptly announced that ALGO trading had been launched on Coinbase.com and the exchange's apps.

[Anonymous No.20462178]

>>20461762
>>20461985
Sure I'll throw in my $.02.
>Let's think about the motivation of the people who wrote it.
Have you ever fudded a coin? Believe it or not there are enough real humans out there that actually don't think that Link is going to revolutionize the world. Crazy, I know. But not really considering the market cap is a literal drop in the bucket in the investment world. To think that your coin is impervious to fudding because it's just so great is pure delusion, especially after a huge pump that no one seems to care to explain.

Regarding the Zeus article, note how no one actually refutes the points made in it. They just attack Zeus Capital.

Believing so desperately that when your investments price drops, is actually because people are trying to stifle the price to buy more is an incredibly ridiculous and bold claim, and bold claims require bold evidence. Linkies are amongst the most hysterical of all holders, and live on hype rather than fundamentals (which should always be the most important thing to debate but is never discussed) which makes these threads a dime a dozen. Just hype and lambos. Same with XRP.

As for China, the Chinese actually hold a shitton of crypto, so I wouldn't be surprised if a bunch of Chinamen are buying in.

[Anonymous No.20462187]

>>20461762
>Clearly there is no actual substance to the FUD, so I won't dwell too much on that.

cope

[Anonymous No.20462195]

zoom out beyond 1 or 12h. we're gonna breakthrough $10+ soon. I would buy more.

[Anonymous No.20462202]

>>20461894
This anon gets it.

[Anonymous No.20462240]

>>20461762
if i wanted to demoralize linkies, I'd make it dump while iexec pumped

[Anonymous No.20463220]

test

[Anonymous No.20463238]

>>20461894
Brilliant.

[Anonymous No.20463257]

>>20461762
I agree the theory, but not the nationality

[Anonymous No.20463270]

>>20462178
I still think LINK is a scam for the sole fact sergey holds 65pct of supply. it just feels like Ripple V2.

[Anonymous No.20463279]

>>20462178
Well that’s great and all, but DR;NS. You’ll never get a hand on my linkies.

[Anonymous No.20463284]

>>20462178
>Have you ever fudded a coin?

I've fudded coins that I want to buy. If I see a shitcoin I generally ignore it.

>Regarding the Zeus article, note how no one actually refutes the points made in it.

Actually, the points they made are so bad and they have been frequently debunked. Here are just a few examples of points they made which are blatantly wrong.

-Claim Chainlink is still on testnet, which is not true. They have been on the ethereum mainnet for a year.
-Claim the team is very small and inexperienced. There are 16 key people just on the chainlink website, which doesn't include Junior devs. There are 19 spots open right now. The team includes Ari Juels who is one of the most prominent people in smart contracts and Tom Gonser as an advisor, CEO of a multi billion dollar company.


>They just attack Zeus Capital.

Zeus Capital is an asset management firm in the UK. They have never involved themselves in Crypto, and are completely uninvolved with this report. Nobody is attacking Zeus Capital. We are attacking the anonymous publishers of this website and short report who fraudulently claim to be an asset management firm called Zeus Capital.

[Anonymous No.20463310]

They're actually paying to promote their fud lmfao

[Anonymous No.20463369]

Why would someone write a 'report' on how a certain specific crypto coin is a bad investment?
Are you stupid?

[Anonymous No.20463388]

>>20463270
>sergey holds 65%
>65%
Is this true? How is this not a major red flag to everyone buying it?

[Anonymous No.20463391]

>>20463310
>is the crypto’s wildcard
Based bugmen letting me buy more cheap link.

[Anonymous No.20463392]

>>20461894
But what about kykes?

[Anonymous No.20463407]

>>20461762
>Clearly there is no actual substance to the FUD
Sure buddy. 90% of the content is legit. Wanna go point by point or that's too much to handle?

[Anonymous No.20463418]

>>20463388
about 27% is held by the team which they use to fund themselves

35% is also reserved for incentivising nodes when staking goes live (nodes will be initially subsidised by LINK from this pool, similar to how other coins are minted and distributed to stakers)

It's not really a red flag.

[Anonymous No.20463434]

>>20461762
And if you are good enough noticing writing patterns you can’t tell that the last and numerous fud threads have been made by the same anon, let’s call him “cope anon”, since he gracefully employs that same expression in every thread link related, average number of words, writting style, reaction time, clustering etc...

[Anonymous No.20463492]

>>20463407
Sure, let's go, you fucking effeminate faggot. I will destroy you.

-Why do they claim that Chainlink is still on testnet, when it has been on mainnet for a year?
-Why do they claim the team is small and inexperienced and then not elaborate on the number of people on the team or their levels of experience?
-Why in the competitors section do they include oraclize/provable, who are using chainlink?
-Why in competitors section do they include niche players who only offer select, narrow, centralized oracles for a couple of pieces of data like Coinbase Pro, or oracles which are only used for one product like Maker?
-Why do they claim competition for chainlink is strong, yet in the competitors section admit that all competitors to chainlink have more or less no network or users?

-Why do they claim that Adelyn does not disclose that she works for Chainlink on Linkedin when she does?

-Why do they state there are several red flags around the team and not elaborate on what they are?

Shall I continue?

[Anonymous No.20463493]

>>20461894

[Anonymous No.20463504]

>>20461894
From my observations, I’m thinking based

[Anonymous No.20463552]

>>20463492
Why do they use "BAND Jedi Master's twitter account" as a source for chainlink oracles supposedly going down for 6 hours?

[Anonymous No.20463560]

>>20463552
Why did they use Maker's oracle failure as an example of Chainlink oracles failing when Maker does not use Chainlink? Isn't Maker one of the supposed strong competitors to Chainlink that they mentioned earlier in the report?

[Anonymous No.20463580]

>>20463492
>Why do they claim lies?
Because the report is fake, done by discord trannies probably. But that's not the point. The point are the huge red flag you idiots won't admit, but enterprise will laugh at.

You CANNOT have a tokenomics that talks about security and reliability when 60% of the supply is at the hands of a man.
You CANNOT claim security when the network has failed twice for several hours each time, it has not been addressed, nothing has been fixed (probably it can't), and now everybody knows it can happen again.
You cannot ignore the addresses forensics that points to the team manipulating the price,
You can't deny 99.9% of partnerships do not use the token or the network and are just done for pumping the price in both sides.
You can't deny the metrics on how stupidly expensive and convoluted the whole thing is.
You can't deny the fake commits on github to fake activity (I am sw engineer, we can go into that in detail if you want - there is legit activity mixed with crap)
And so on. In summary:
Fake report from a fake group full of red flags on an extremely overvalued and flawed project. Did you make money with it? Yes. Will you continue doing so? Probably yes. Smart money involved and future adoption? Fuck no, I don't think so.

[Anonymous No.20463582]

>>20462178
wow thanks i literally just sold 100k

[Anonymous No.20463590]

>>20463560
Why in their attempt to value chainlink do they compare it to other tokens whose rewards come from diluting existing holders?

[Anonymous No.20463604]

>>20461762
It's not good enough to create significant shorts

Only logical reason is they are a LINK holder, and are using this as a shadow tactic to create more awareness for Chainlink to sustain this current momentum.

[Anonymous No.20463632]

>>20463388
It's the one genuine bit of fud out there. The team has always been clear about what the division of funds was for, so it comes down to whether you trust the team. From following Sergey's presentations and seeing the progress and development over the years I have 100% faith in the team. The thing about CL is that it's not really a cryptocurrency. It's referred to as a crypto but its purpose is much more than just enabling a token to be sent from one place to another. I dont think the category for what CL is has been defined yet

[Anonymous No.20463638]

>>20463580
>Because the report is fake, done by discord trannies probably. But that's not the point.

But hang on, a minute ago you were saying the report was 90% real and even challenged me to go over it point by point. I quote:

>>20463407
>Sure buddy. 90% of the content is legit. Wanna go point by point or that's too much to handle?

[Anonymous No.20463659]

>>20461762
So basically there is a Chinese /biz/ trying to FUD link. kek

[Anonymous No.20463671]

>>20463388
No it’s more like 58% now after his multiple fat dumps.

[Anonymous No.20463673]

>>20463492
I would add, why would a serious asset management firm create a document of poor quality biz fud? I mean surprised they didn’t bring up nail salon and the toilets at SIBOS.

[Anonymous No.20463674]

>>20463638
I believe the report to be fake because is not a report done by proffesionals, it is a compilation of fud by bizraelis.
FUD doesn't mean using fake content, means intentionally inducing negative emotions on an investment. 90% of the content in the report is legit, that's what I clearly said:
>90% of the content is legit.

[Anonymous No.20463695]

>>20463674
Okay, and then you challenged me to go over it "point by point".

Got anything to say on these:

>>20463492
>>20463552
>>20463560
>>20463590

[Anonymous No.20463773]

>>20463695
Chainlink is in production with an unfinished product, but that's Mainnet by definition. The rest are lies or obsolete stuff, seems like most of the data was taken from 2019 for some reason. Those dudes either want cheap price for purchase and/or because of short positions, are you really asking why they partially lied?

[Anonymous No.20464082]

>>20461762
>Think about it. The recent pump started in China. China is setting up BSN nodes which use Chainlink. Clearly there are some MASSIVE Chinese buyers. The website also has a chinese translation which suggests the makers are Chinese.
https://zeus-capital.com/assets/ChainLink_Report_Chinese.pdf

[Anonymous No.20464182]

THE FUCKING TRUTH IS THAT 2/3 OF THE SUPPLY IS CONTROLLED BY A FAT MAN THAT FAILED OTHER PROJECTS AND IS CURRENTLY SELLING BATCHES OF 700K LINKS EVERY WEEK. Apart from that its alright

[Anonymous No.20464891]

>>20464182
You forgot the part where the oracle data failed twice when market dumped, the stupidly expensive the whole thing is to use, and the shitty partnerships that do not end using the network. Apart from that and a dozen other issues, it's alright.

[Anonymous No.20464938]

>>20461894
Why would one year ago this would make me pissed but now it make me laugh for no reasons

[Anonymous No.20465361]

>>20463773
You challenged him to go over it point by point. When he took you up on that and hit you with a bunch of points, you say the points were lies?
Don't ever join a debating society.

[Anonymous No.20465455]

>>20464082
CZ is just fucking with us at this point.
But it's probably in his best interests to pump Link long term.
Re: why the cunt crashed the price to 0.01c a few months back to scoop up a shitload

https://www.binance.com/en/support/articles/73a5d3352ae944fe8e899d2602bee27c

[Anonymous No.20465474]

>>20461762
I think it's a Link marine who doesn't want normies to buy Link until he can be certain they won't become millionaires from it.
This FUD is completely useless on a thinking person, but for a normie who only cares what authority figures say this is the greatest FUD.

I missed the hacked list of ICO participants. What did it contain?
The names of the participants?

[Anonymous No.20465692]

>>20463773

lol you got fucking SMOKED. You asked him to go over it point by point, which he did, and now you're backtracking. Get da fuk outta here buddy. Fucking discord fag.

[Anonymous No.20465710]

>>20464891

Chainlink literally kept anyone who had LINK as collateral on AAVE alive. Whole market got roasted, binance ripped the souls out of some linkies.

[Anonymous No.20465729]

>>20461894
This forum is about money, not politics. So I think fuck kikes is the better choice

[Anonymous No.20466044]

>>20465692
Kek this. Link fudders are so bad at debate they can't do anything other than post red wojaks

[Anonymous No.20466085]

>>20463407
>Sure buddy. 90% of the content is legit. Wanna go point by point or that's too much to handle?
>>20463773
LMAO completely and utterly destroyed.
Find a rock to hide under

[Anonymous No.20466099]

>>20465474
>I missed the hacked list of ICO participants. What did it contain?


Email and public key

[Anonymous No.20466125]

>>20464938
Because you evolved from a redditor fagot

[Anonymous No.20466183]

>>20463773
Fudder btfo. State evidence or gtfo. There’s a reason why Chainlink has been a topic for discussion for the past 3 years. This is where ideas are literally broken down and stripped to figure out what makes it tick. You had 3 years, and with the way things are looking, you have until end of August to get in below $10

[Anonymous No.20466230]

>>20461762
Why was the name "Zeus Capital" chosen for this fud? Obviously the real firm Zeus Capital has nothing to do with this report, so they could have chosen any name. Is it coincidence, given the pertinent mythological significance?

[Anonymous No.20466250]

>>20463773
Go back to discord and suck a dick, tranny faggot

[Anonymous No.20466262]

>>20466230
>zeus = saturn
fud the crazy folk from /x/
>zeus throws flashes
flash crash fud
>Get anons to interpret shit into shit
lazy boring attention whore trying to get idiots to interpret something
I go with this one

[Anonymous No.20466300]

>>20463284
Gonser is not a ceo stinker

[Anonymous No.20466323]

>>20463310

Holyshit. This is certainly chinks at work. They want to buy the free supply without westeners getting any

[Anonymous No.20466493]

>>20463580

>>You CANNOT claim security when the network has failed twice for several hours each time, it has not been addressed, nothing has been fixed (probably it can't), and now everybody knows it can happen again.

>>You can't deny the metrics on how stupidly expensive and convoluted the whole thing is.

Can you go into more on the above 2 ppints I wasn't aware it had failed

By expensive do you mean how much money they've spent developing it? I don't think it's been expensive desu. Good devs are very expensive

[Anonymous No.20466499]

>>20466262
Zeus is actually jupiter, saturn is kronos

[Anonymous No.20466560]

>>20463270
Yeah, except that Link goes up and Cripple goes down

[Anonymous No.20466576]

Anon maybe its true or not. i cant take a risk. sold already x4 and went all in BZRX and RLC. i have now 67% more profit. Why take the risk anon when everybody makes gains with other token/coins.

[Anonymous No.20466581]

>>20461894
/thread

[Anonymous No.20466600]

>>20466499
So was this a poor attempt by some fudders at recreating a myth?

[Anonymous No.20466623]

>>20463310
Unironically bullish. Crypto price movement depends on exposure not "fundamentalz" .

[Anonymous No.20466631]

>>20466262
>>20466499
Correct, and of course Zeus and Kronos were adversarial. Everyone here (and pretty much only here) knows about the mythical connection of Chainlink to Saturn. So with this info we can deduce that the name Zeus Capital was not a random choice, and that whatever individual or group helped create this elaborate fud was well acquainted with boz lore.

[Anonymous No.20466642]

>>20461762
dude it was just some bored retard with a 10k stack

[Anonymous No.20466643]

>>20466631
*biz lore
Phoneposting

[Anonymous No.20466661]

>>20461894
B A S ED

ALSO DR;NS!

[Anonymous No.20466676]

>>20461930
This is actually not a wild conspiracy like schizo 42.

[Anonymous No.20466708]

>>20464938
You're becoming more based. Be careful though, too much of it can be dangerous.

[Anonymous No.20466715]

Anon some high LINK holders moving since 3 days to BZRX and RLC. You can compare the chart. Never emotional addicted to coins Anon. Its all about gains. So move forward or stay and watch the dip while others sell. greetz

[Anonymous No.20466730]

>>20463310
Wow. These fudders arent fucking around

[Anonymous No.20466776]

>>20463369
Are YOU stupid?

Here:
*to create fud/negative press among companies thinking to adopt Link in the hopes that they chhose another crypto (aka Band)
*to create a lower price to accumulate (whales)
heres 2 examples.

[Anonymous No.20466780]

>>20462178
>They just attack Zeus Capital.

No one is attacking Zeus Capital, they have nothing to do with this fake report.

[Anonymous No.20466782]

>>20461762
Current prize pooled is .04989 ether
winner will be announced Sunday July 26

ANNOUNCEMENT! The Unofficial Statera Wiki is commencing a Weekly Prize Pool.

The weekly winner gets Ethereum and Balancer Tokens from pooled bets from the prize pool.

.009 Ethereum entry fee $2.
A maximum of 10 entries per wallet .09 ETH max per entry

If we get enough entries the pooling aspect of this should put a good amount back into the competition weekly

https://stateraprojectwiki.com/weekly-prize-pool?utm_source=Telegram

[Anonymous No.20466843]

>>20461894
A compelling theory indeed my friend

[Anonymous No.20466958]

>>20466631
I think knowing this we can also conclude that the author is a link holder, since the entire fud project is steeped in the mythology of link itself. It's like a dog whistle to bizraelis that this report is intended for forcing redditors and normies to sell, but that we shouldn't take it too seriously. The actual report is also filled with these dog whistles, such as claims that anyone familiar with the project will instantly know are false, ie that link is not in mainnet yet.

[Anonymous No.20467018]

>>20463284
you stinky retard. When they say testnet they are clearly pointing out that staking isnt implemented and that the whole link system is running on centralized kyc. The team fud is valid as well. juels is an advisor not a team member, and gonser isn't even that. All you deluded cultists have is ad hominem and burying your heads in the sand aka "dr;ns"

[Anonymous No.20467069]

>>20463492
you're lucky the biggest competitor to watch out for wasn't mentioned in waves' gravity hub. LINK token not needed.

[Anonymous No.20467080]

>>20467018
How is that "clearly" what they are saying? Why don't they just say that then instead of something that is false?

[Anonymous No.20467120]

>>20463580
nice summary anon. tear these cultists apart.

[Anonymous No.20467142]

>>20461762
The country that holds the most LINK will control the future. Screen cap this.

[Anonymous No.20467157]

>>20467080
maybe it's only clear to someone with over a room temperature iq.

[Anonymous No.20467165]

>>20466499
Checked. This.

[Anonymous No.20467254]

>>20467157
Yes, using false terminology and deliberately misleading statements are clear ways to communicate with intelligent people like you anon. Excellent insight.

[Anonymous No.20467303]

>>20463580
Based and intelligentpilled

[Anonymous No.20467851]

>>20461894
Very astute observation!

[Anonymous No.20467906]

>>20461894
Based

[Anonymous No.20467937]

>>20461894

[Anonymous No.20468106]

Didn't read the thread but I'm buying more link while it's on sale.

[Anonymous No.20468348]

>>20464938
unironically fuck niggers tho. they are sub humans