/smg/ - Stock Market General

[Anonymous No.20268148]

OTM Calls On Cruises and Airlines Edition

>Brokers
https://pastebin.com/F1yujtVq (embed)

>Stock market Words
https://pastebin.com/VtnpN5iJ (embed)

>Risk Management
https://pastebin.com/sqJUcbjp

>Educational Sites
https://www.investopedia.com/
https://www.khanacademy.org/economics-finance-domain
https://www.workhorse.com

>Free Charts
http://www.tradingview.com
https://www.finscreener.com/

>Screeners
https://finviz.com/
https://www.tradingview.com/screener
https://etfdb.com/

>Pre-Market Data and Live Data
https://www.investing.com/indices/indices-futures
https://finance.yahoo.com/

>Bio-pharma Catalyst Calendar
https://biopharmcatalyst.com

>Boomer Investing 101
https://www.bogleheads.org/wiki/Getting_started

>Dividend Reinvestment (DRIP) Calculator
https://www.dividendchannel.com/drip-returns-calculator/

>List of hedge fund holdings
https://fintel.io/

>Misc
https://www.portfoliovisualizer.com
https://squeezemetrics.com/monitor
https://market24hclock.com/
https://tradingeconomics.com

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[Anonymous No.20268169]

>>20268148
bullish for EVRI. $10 Monday

[Anonymous No.20268170]

All in DENN calls

[Anonymous No.20268180]

>second lockdown is imminent

[Anonymous No.20268195]

TSM CHADS: EARNINGS COMING UP SOON

Monthly June report indicated massive growth. Here is some historical data on TSM. They generally pump after earnings

[Anonymous No.20268205]

Save me.

[Anonymous No.20268218]

here's what going to happen
>tesla slowly goes to $1800~
>gets included in s&p
>nobody is selling their shares
>moons to $2500 minimum
idk from there

[Anonymous No.20268225]

>>20268195
Whats the name of that site?

[Anonymous No.20268232]

How do I go back in time and buy TSLA $1500 tesla calls when they cost pennies?

[Anonymous No.20268254]

>call my female broker at 3:59am EST
>"good morning s-
>buy me another 500 NVDA
>"sir, over 95% of your portfolio is in the fag-"
>*beep*
>smoke a cigar in the balcony, then head back to sleep

[Anonymous No.20268257]

>>20268218
Starlink IPO

[Anonymous No.20268278]

has WKHS been shilled on smg, ptg or both? i want to be on the next 1000% train too

[Anonymous No.20268282]

>>20268232
reverse iron condors on TSLA with strikes -$100 and +$100 on either side

[Anonymous No.20268284]

>>20268254
based

[Anonymous No.20268312]

>>20268278
ptg is for autism riddled poorfags so no they would never know of a stock that actually gives returns

[Anonymous No.20268314]

>>20268278
You missed the WKHS pump by a long shot. Buy SHLL.

[Anonymous No.20268333]

>>20268314
i know, i want to get in on the next thing

[Anonymous No.20268342]

>>20268278
On ptg to start with, then smg when it increased in price. Ptg also shilled the BLM stocks like UONE, CARV, BYFC, and BBGI after George Floyd

[Anonymous No.20268346]

>>20268278
it was shilled here at $2-4. at $5 was when the late fags came in and started being spastic about it. idk where the fuck the idiots who bought at $20 came from. they were clearly not regulars

[Anonymous No.20268351]

this guy went all in TSLA puts two days ago. He put his life savings, $60,000, on TSLA puts. Then got bogged with TSLA 1500. LOL

he's now eating at the soup kitchen

[Anonymous No.20268353]

>>20268333
check daily for SPAC mergers in meme industries like space and EVs
I caught the VTIQ -> NKLA SPAC in February when it was $10

[Anonymous No.20268395]

>>20268351
that's an oof

[Anonymous No.20268405]

How long will this rebound continue among cruiselines etc? We've got positive news on hydroxyQ, positive news on Remdesivir, positive news on a novel vaccine... It's beginning to feel like the tide has shifted back to the bulls. What do you think boys? Or am I speaking to the permabear weekend /smg/?

[Anonymous No.20268410]

>>20268342
You have to go back

[Anonymous No.20268416]

>>20268278
EVRI is the next moon mission

we said to get in sub 5.9 yesterday

[Anonymous No.20268418]

Anons will jews push GILD and tank REGN?

[Anonymous No.20268424]

So, continuing our conversation from last thread:

>TQQQ
>TMF/TLT
>UPRO/SPXL

Would it be smart to put 90% of my money into these 3, and keep 10% for /smg/ meme stocks?

[Anonymous No.20268426]

I have recently noticed the ticker $NRGU is currently trading at $3.08/share. Before the pandemic, it was trading at approximately $50/share. That's a potential 1,500% return.

>MicroSectors U.S. Big Oil Index 3X Leveraged ETN (NRGU)

Is it too good to be true? Am I overlooking something here? It seems too easy.

[Anonymous No.20268441]

>>20268426
lol

[Anonymous No.20268443]

>>20268426
>leveraged ETN
Lurk more

[Anonymous No.20268455]

So are we following the big boys on this?

https://fintel.io/so/us/ktov

20 institutional owners holding now

[Anonymous No.20268459]

ive been trading for years and recently got very interested in options. how do these look? am i a retarded options trader? i lost money on my very first options trade (a retard put on DKNG when it first got listed) but have been doing pretty good since then

[Anonymous No.20268466]

>>20266242

>It was profitable in Q3 and Q4 of 2019, and was profitable in Q1 of 2020(thanks to carbon tax credits). It just needs 2 more profitable quarters and it will enter the S&P 500 I believe, which will then explode since now major shareholders would be obligated to buy it.

Just one more, not two. That's why it's pumping so hard

[Anonymous No.20268481]

>>20268426
NRGU will slay your portfolio and you will not have the iron hands needed. ive been following oil for awhile there is no indication oilwill spike any time soon and in fact it could go lower. look at UCO. UCO performs better and is more stable

[Anonymous No.20268483]

>>20268424
TQQQ/TMF
or
UPRO/TMF
60/40 split. Absolutely. The likelihood of anything realistically beating this with any amount of effort is likely zero

[Anonymous No.20268486]

>>20268424
No need to hold TQQQ. Just buy MSFT / AMZN / TSM / CDNS / SPGI and you will get the same returns with lower drawdowns.

[Anonymous No.20268497]

>>20268466
and it's 99% happening

[Anonymous No.20268515]

just had a stinky fart, making good money on the stock market

[Anonymous No.20268516]

>>20268486
BASED MSFT AND TSM


ALSO, TSM GANG

[Anonymous No.20268541]

>>20268483
>>20268486
Hmm, which anon do I believe.

[Anonymous No.20268553]

50% of my portfolio is in WKHS, I got in at $7 so i'm not holding bags.. should I sell it all and move on, take out my initial and leave the rest, or pretend it doesn't exist and wait for like 10 years?

[Anonymous No.20268566]

is gold price going to fall?

[Anonymous No.20268578]

>>20268481
thank you anon.
Is UCO leveraged as well? Could I get absolutely bogged on a bad day?
I am guessing that holding a leveraged ETF isn't as simple as returns = percentage change in price from one date to the other.

[Anonymous No.20268592]

>>20268541
MSFT is up 59% since the bottom. TQQQ is up 257%. I didn't bother checking the others but it will be similar. Long term TQQQ will utterly crush single stocks even the greats like TSLA, AMZN, et al. Yes there will be drawdowns but that's what TMF is for. Just rebalance the two yearly for maximum gains and effect

[Anonymous No.20268603]

>>20268553
Take profits, leave initial to capitalize on further pumps.

[Anonymous No.20268607]

>>20268148
How far away is a vaccine for the general public? How long have these people been on the trial?

[Anonymous No.20268613]

>>20268405
I might get some OTM calls on cruises and airlines. A month out and see where it goes

[Anonymous No.20268628]

>>20268578
The investment seeks daily investment results, before fees and expenses, that correspond to two times (2x) the daily performance of the Bloomberg Commodity Balanced WTI Crude Oil IndexSM. The index aims to track the performance of 3 separate contract schedules for WTI Crude Oil futures. One-third of the index follows a monthly roll schedule two months beyond the nearby contract. The second third of the index follows a June annual roll schedule, while the remaining third follows a December annual roll schedule. The index is not linked to the “spot” price of WTI crude oil.

[Anonymous No.20268642]

>>20268592
TMF is going to get wiped out. They won't lower interest rates from here. TQQQ/TMF will crater when the fed even mentions raising rates. It only worked up to now because of a simultaneous equity and bond bull run. Look how it performs in a rising interest rate environment and you will see

[Anonymous No.20268644]

>>20268497

>40 TSLA shares @ $250
>70 TSLA shares @ $500

Feeling /comfy/

[Anonymous No.20268645]

>>20268553
I have zero stake in WKHS at the moment, but one thing I noticed in the berg report was that he straight up lied about the timings and prices of shareholders selling their stocks and to such a large degree that I can only assume that it was intentional. I'm phoneposting at the moment, but if you double check his figures you'll see that the dates and prices dont even remotely line up. Long term it is probably a fine hold but that report clearly did damage.

[Anonymous No.20268647]

>>20268603

sounds good

[Anonymous No.20268648]

>>20268424
Why no NRGU?

[Anonymous No.20268651]

>>20268578
Read the prospectus. You absolutely can get bogged into oblivion if you don't know what you're buying. UCO is 2x leveraged based on WTI futures.

[Anonymous No.20268654]

>>20268578
you can invest and hold a levereged ETF if you want but you need to understand what you are doing. you should never put everything into one. maybe TQQQ but some people believe there is a tech bubble and if thats true holding TQQQ would be the worst choice at the time of the pop. if you are interested in them i recoomend investing in them but not with the majority of your portfolio. especially not with oil. maybe like 10-20% of your port in a levereged oil etf you want to gamble...

[Anonymous No.20268671]

>>20268648
what makes you think oil is going to spike? its been stuck at 40 +/- 1.5 for weeks

[Anonymous No.20268675]

THREADLY REMINDER THAT DIVIDENDS ARE YOUR FREN

[Anonymous No.20268683]

>>20268170
i got DENN puts, fuck em. Denny's is gross.

[Anonymous No.20268689]

>>20268644
meanwhile i feel like a fucking extreme retard for not buying them at $300 in march
idk wtf was going through my tiny brain. i was watching it every day through march crash and april

[Anonymous No.20268690]

>>20268645
Yeah the fact that there's so much FUD coming from one source about a company that's essentially clear for takeoff rubs me the wrong way. I'll keep an eye on it

[Anonymous No.20268697]

>>20268642
Would you consider it a good hold if and only if one were to sell the TQQQ should QQQ dip under the 200 day moving average and likewise for TMF should TLT do the same? This should mitigate the downturn and leverage killing volatility. You could get back in when the underlying ETFs break back above

[Anonymous No.20268700]

>>20268675
dividends are garbage, do not out perform even s&p, and you're stupid. even stupider than me

[Anonymous No.20268704]

>>20268644
Taking any profits or riding it out?

[Anonymous No.20268707]

Rate? Should I jump off NIO?

[Anonymous No.20268714]

>>20268683
denn puts? wow get ready to literally being forced to eat at dennys because u cant afford real food

[Anonymous No.20268718]

>>20268671
winter is approaching

[Anonymous No.20268721]

>>20268704
>>20268644
Would it be stupid to throw like $200 - $300 into fractional shares? I hate the meme-like overvaluation but it does seem like it's going to moon until Spacex has an IPO or something

[Anonymous No.20268729]

>>20268675
Dividends don’t mean shit in current meta.
I’m buying more Tesla you dumb cunt.

[Anonymous No.20268732]

>>20268718
ok.... and? we talking about brent crude right

[Anonymous No.20268755]

>>20268700
>implying

[Anonymous No.20268762]

>>20268654
>>20268651
>>20268628
thank you lads

[Anonymous No.20268780]

>>20268755
this is false and you would never have this amount of money that dividends would outperform spy even by a couple %
regardless, outperforming spy by a few % after 10 years is a joke. like you are a joke.

[Anonymous No.20268786]

>>20268459
From someone who has lost a lot of money trading options this year, don't trade more than max 1/10 of your capital on options at a time, and definitely don't trade options on that many different stocks at a time. Also buy 1-2 months out options at least perferably T. Guy who has gotten fucked on right direction but not the right timeframe

[Anonymous No.20268807]

>>20268426
>>20268578
>>20268762
these are all shit replies anyway, just buy wti or brent futures with rollover instead of shitty oil stocks if you want to profit from oil going up. though you already missed +400% and wti seems pinned at $40 for the longest time

[Anonymous No.20268820]

>>20268732
Last I checked, people need heat in winter

[Anonymous No.20268822]

>>20268786
why is 1-2 months a preferable time frame? for example, with my WMT leap the theta is extremely low. it already doubled in a week and I sold half of it so now the rest is pure profit. I just dont understand the logic behind the short time frame theory... is it bc of liquidity? whats the big reasson people advise short term options?

[Anonymous No.20268839]

>>20268566
There is no bad outlook for gold over a 1-year period. If it falls it'll be because people are raising cash to cover themselves when other markets tank to shit like what happened in March and then bounce back.

What we know is that more money will be printed, interest rates will stay 0 or negative unless inflation hits the real economy hard, and the real economy is in for a hell of a ride no matter what happens.

[Anonymous No.20268840]

>>20268755
Based divvie aristocrats. People severely underestimate the power of an extra percent or so a year. Here's one: the Nikkei implosion was severely mitigated for people holding dividend paying Japanese stocks. Mitigating to the point of double digit differences in return through the whole thing

[Anonymous No.20268842]

>>20268592
>>20268642
AAAHHHHH WHO DO I BELIEVE

[Anonymous No.20268854]

>>20268644
Sell covered calls lol

[Anonymous No.20268865]

>>20268780
95% of retail investors don’t match the s&p 500, so yes that is a good benchmark to beat, even by a few percentage points

Unless you have your investments to 500K like Me, then you can try and tell me my strategy is bogus. You’d still be wrong.

[Anonymous No.20268875]

>>20268842
Buy the TQQQ/TMF and just get out should we dip under the 200 daily moving average. That way you get the upside but avoid the downside

[Anonymous No.20268882]

>>20268822
Well I've personally done too many shorter term options. It was more a warning against them, the shorter time til expiry the the more you'll gain on rapid early price movements in the right direction due to less time value on the purchase price, but that goes for the wrong direction too

[Anonymous No.20268920]

>>20268820
thats just one factor in evaluating crude oil futures. historically traffic is the more controlling factor and crude prices actually dip in the winter....


https://marketrealist.com/2016/03/seasonality-impacts-crude-oil-prices/

[Anonymous No.20268922]

>>20268865
just buy qqq you stupid fucking donkey and stop with your dividends garbage
this dividends shit is literally peanut brain babby tier investing done by idiots that just watched one too many youtube videos

[Anonymous No.20268934]

>>20268882
so you are actually advising against very short term options not against long term

[Anonymous No.20268956]

>70% of portfolio is now tsla because it keeps going up
> want to take profits, but keep hearing stories of ppl who sold early
> holding
Tesla has given me a 6 figure networth, I don't want to lose it, but I don't want to miss out on gains. What do? Hold for 10 years? I just want to make it

[Anonymous No.20268967]

>>20268920
>>20268920
War is also on the horizon. Oil will be a big play when that comes around

[Anonymous No.20268981]

>>20268934
Exactly, very long term options will behave more like the stock itself in gains though due to the much higher premiums

[Anonymous No.20268996]

>>20268956
You're getting FOMO because you didn't have a plan.
Make a plan now and stick to it.

[Anonymous No.20268997]

dude i dont car if 50% of the cars on the road were electric

oil will still only go up

its like gold u cant erase it

[Anonymous No.20268998]

>>20268697
Yes. You need to use some sort of tactical volatility strategy unless you have the balls to sit through a 70% drawdown and not panic sell.

[Anonymous No.20269000]

>>20268875
>dip under the 200 daily moving average
What does this mean

Sorry for being retarded

[Anonymous No.20269006]

>>20268956
put stop loss high?

[Anonymous No.20269009]

>>20268956
1. sell some and rebalance your memefolio
or
2. hedge

[Anonymous No.20269010]

>>20268967
There’s no big war about to break out. It’ll be about the same amount of fighting this year

[Anonymous No.20269058]

>>20269000
>>dip under the 200 daily moving average
>What does this mean
>Sorry for being retarded
No problem. I wrote this in the last thread:
A bet for leveraged ETFs like TQQQ is a bet against volatility since these instruments do best in a low volatility environment. Incidentally low volatility usually means rising prices and increasingly high volatility usually means a crash like in March. A good way to visualize it is with a 200 day moving average. If the price is above the average, volatility is typically low and the environment is good for leverage. Below that average is bad and leverage works against you. The upshot is this: put a 200 day moving average on the underlying chart, in the TQQQ case that's QQQ, when QQQ is above the average, go all in on the leveraged TQQQ as that's when you'll get the best results. When unleveraged QQQ is below the 200 day moving average sell your TQQQ until you're back above the line. Maybe give yourself a percent or two of breathing room so you don't get chopped up.
To wit, if you look at the QQQ chart now with the 200 daily average overlayed, you'll see on March 11th we went under the average. The TQQQ price on that day was $63 and on April 7th we went back above QQQ's 200 daily average at which time TQQQ was $53. Had you sold then bought on those dates you would have missed the worst of the bottom and gained 16% to boot. But look at the QQQ chart and notice the price was $200 on both of those dates. So why was it better to sell and buy on the TQQQ chart and why did it gain 16% versus being flat on QQQ? Because volatility was increasing, working against TQQQ when you sold but decreasing, working for TQQQ when you bought. If you don't know when to get out of leveraged ETFs cuz you're banking and don't want to waste gains, but you also don't wanna lose big on a crash, this is as good a strategy as I've seen that requires no discretionary trading.

[Anonymous No.20269065]

theyll just find new uses for the cheaper oil because its compacted energy

and cause oil to always go up as it gets rarer

if 100% of cars were electric vehicles it would have no effect on oil price

[Anonymous No.20269073]

>>20269058
>No problem. I wrote this in the last thread:
>A bet for leveraged ETFs like TQQQ is a bet against volatility since these instruments do best in a low volatility environment. Incidentally low volatility usually means rising prices and increasingly high volatility usually means a crash like in March. A good way to visualize it is with a 200 day moving average. If the price is above the average, volatility is typically low and the environment is good for leverage. Below that average is bad and leverage works against you. The upshot is this: put a 200 day moving average on the underlying chart, in the TQQQ case that's QQQ, when QQQ is above the average, go all in on the leveraged TQQQ as that's when you'll get the best results. When unleveraged QQQ is below the 200 day moving average sell your TQQQ until you're back above the line. Maybe give yourself a percent or two of breathing room so you don't get chopped up.
>To wit, if you look at the QQQ chart now with the 200 daily average overlayed, you'll see on March 11th we went under the average. The TQQQ price on that day was $63 and on April 7th we went back above QQQ's 200 daily average at which time TQQQ was $53. Had you sold then bought on those dates you would have missed the worst of the bottom and gained 16% to boot. But look at the QQQ chart and notice the price was $200 on both of those dates. So why was it better to sell and buy on the TQQQ chart and why did it gain 16% versus being flat on QQQ? Because volatility was increasing, working against TQQQ when you sold but decreasing, working for TQQQ when you bought. If you don't know when to get out of leveraged ETFs cuz you're banking and don't want to waste gains, but you also don't wanna lose big on a crash, this is as good a strategy as I've seen that requires no discretionary trading.

dude just buy any dip lmao

[Anonymous No.20269075]

>>20268822
>why is 1-2 months a preferable time frame?
it's not, it all depends if you have an edge or not.
>>20268786
Dude don't give advice since you're obviously a retard noob. Kek at 1/10 of your capital, that's way too much, no wonder you got fucked if you even risked more than that.

[Anonymous No.20269079]

>>20268998
>the balls
I have them :)

[Anonymous No.20269082]

>>20269010
Uh huh, and your source? Knowing the future has gotta be pretty sweet.

[Anonymous No.20269087]

>>20268351
If he had done calls instead he would never have had to work again.

[Anonymous No.20269104]

>>20269079

[Anonymous No.20269106]

>>20269079
you want my opinion if ur not thinking about cashing out and retiring then youre dumb or putting all that insomething extremelly safe

ive been gambling a long time since i was like 13

and sneaking into casinos

baby u better stop

people who get arrogant will not make it

[Anonymous No.20269107]

>>20268967
uh ya if u are predicting world war 3 sure o.0

[Anonymous No.20269119]

TSM Prices broke out of a large consolidation pattern in the $40's. Prices are above the rising 40-week moving average line.

The weekly OBV line just made a new bullish high. The MACD oscillator crossed above the zero line in May and is still rising.

With prices nearly touching $65 two days ago and the company reporting impressive revenue and sales numbers yesterday, TSM price target $70 and then $86 area.

[Anonymous No.20269124]

>>20269079
looks like soxl to me

[Anonymous No.20269129]

>>20268553
The price tanked on a dipshit FUDer who demonstrably lied in his FUD and should be delisted as a news source by all the brokers. What a piece of shit. I sold at $19 so I'm out but that faggot is clearly using his platform to lie for his own benefit no way it was an accident.

[Anonymous No.20269140]

>>20269079
nice

[Anonymous No.20269152]

>>20268707
>euros
nothing you do matters in the long run as long as you live in that communist hellscape desu senpai

[Anonymous No.20269162]

>>20269082
You’re the one that said war was on the horizon. What’s your source on that?

[Anonymous No.20269163]

>>20268967

These people have no idea what's coming. They think the U.S will lose it's hegemony, and china will give up the progress they've made over the last 20-30 years without retaliation.

[Anonymous No.20269172]

>>20268707
>fractional shares
bitch nigger don't put money intk shit you cannot afford. just followjng /biz/ for a mknth and a half I turned 2k Canadian into 13k American and I never have and never will buy a fucking fractional share. You ain't a timetraveller so stop trading the few marbles you have for slivers of shit that has been out of your price range for ten years.

[Anonymous No.20269190]

>>20269106
I know I've been lucky. The minute S-M-H dips under the 200 day average I'm out. 'Til then I'll ride it
>>20269124
:) Love me some semis

[Anonymous No.20269196]

>>20269163
How long? I can't see it before Q2 2021.

[Anonymous No.20269204]

>>20269152
>euros
This has to be low quality bait right?
Here's a (you)

[Anonymous No.20269205]

>>20268644
I sold at 335

[Anonymous No.20269211]

I'm going to let you 3x leverage smoothbrains in on a secret. It's called the 3x AMT/DPZ portfolio. Cell phones and pizza delivery. That's all you need to know.

>inb4 i'm not clicking that link
ok, stay poor r*ddit tranny

https://www.portfoliovisualizer.com/backtest-portfolio?s=y&timePeriod=4&startYear=1985&firstMonth=1&endYear=2020&lastMonth=12&calendarAligned=true&includeYTD=false&initialAmount=10000&annualOperation=0&annualAdjustment=0&inflationAdjusted=true&annualPercentage=0.0&frequency=4&rebalanceType=1&absoluteDeviation=5.0&relativeDeviation=25.0&showYield=false&reinvestDividends=true&portfolioNames=true&portfolioName1=3x+Cell+phones+%26+pizza&portfolioName2=Incel+hedgefundie+poorfag&portfolioName3=Portfolio+3&symbol1=AMT&allocation1_1=200&symbol2=DPZ&allocation2_1=200&symbol3=CASHX&allocation3_1=-300&symbol4=TQQQ&allocation4_2=60&symbol5=TMF&allocation5_2=40

[Anonymous No.20269243]

>>20269204
the rest of the world currency is monopoly money that is worth what the mighty USA says it is, any other opinion is cope

[Anonymous No.20269254]

>>20269211
Hedgedundie BTFO eternally and for all time
Fucking Dominos who'da thought

[Anonymous No.20269290]

>>20269254
hedgecels will NEVER recover

[Anonymous No.20269292]

>>20269075
I'd obviously recommend using less, but I don't expect most people on /biz/ to actually practice prudent risk management

[Anonymous No.20269305]

anyone in on
AgeX?

[Anonymous No.20269398]

>>20269211
I was running nvda+google on 3x leverage since march bottoms alongside the ETFs.

You know you can tailor the portfolio however you want. TQQQ and SOXL have been very nice to add diversification to the kamikaze mission.

The sharpe ratio is also really good if you do some smart trading alongside just longing market.

[Anonymous No.20269452]

>>20269292
I've had 50% portfolio in options at various times. Even that might have been too little risk/reward ratio for what was going on in the market and my finger on it's pulse.

[Anonymous No.20269458]

is this the only good OC /smg/ has turned out?

[Anonymous No.20269464]

You know we haven't bottomed because everyone and their mom wants to go in on leverage on every single dip

I'll buy in TQQQ when we start seeing posts on /smg/ like 'bros I've had it, which bonds should I buy EDV or TLT'

[Anonymous No.20269466]

Why are there some dividend aristocrats that don't meet the qualifications? What loophole are they using? It's supposed to be an annual increase YoY.

CAT for example didn't increase dividends from 7/2015 to 4/2017. How the fuck are they on the list?

[Euranon No.20269471]

>>20269058
By the way, do you think a 2x leverage is good enough for this?

[Anonymous No.20269476]

A new chinaman EV named Li auto is applying for an IPO in the U.S. apparently, I don't know when exactly it's happening but I feel like this is something to watch for an easy swing as soon as it opens up?

[Anonymous No.20269480]

>>20269458
no it's pretty shit

[Anonymous No.20269490]

>>20269464
>he doesn't think the bottom is in
lol stay poor

[Anonymous No.20269494]

>>20269464
Bond ETFs blow tho, look at TLT's beta and compare to SPY. Volatile as fuck, which is exactly what bonds aren't supposed to be.

[Anonymous No.20269508]

Why do you guys like DENN so much? I never though /smg/ would be bullish on a company that serves eggs and pancakes

[Anonymous No.20269511]

>>20268854
seriously. Even ridiculously OOTM is great

[Anonymous No.20269512]

>>20269476
Depending if the EV hype is still on when they do.

[Anonymous No.20269519]

>>20269464
Yeah it would suck to buy into TQQQ right now. That being said I don't feel anything having a portion in TQQQ right now considering when I bought in and the general trending forces acting on the market.

The market is in a forced melt up. There can definitely be pullbacks such as if a rotation takes off but long has the edge and any rotation like that is short-term.

[Anonymous No.20269525]

>>20269458
Add a level below Gimel with 'inverse r*ddit"

>>20269494
Depends on the duration. TLT tracks long term treasuries. Their prices are volatile as fuck because a 1% change in fed rates is roughly equal to a 20% (duration of bonds) change i price.

[Anonymous No.20269533]

>>20269211
>going 3x long on 2 stocks that outperformed the market is more profitable than an index
no shit retard

[Anonymous No.20269538]

what stocks are you guys wheeling frens

[Anonymous No.20269545]

>>20269471
Idk what he's talking about. Leveraged ETFs don't perform better in low volatility... if volatility is literally 0 for example in a perfect crab market you LOSE money in the expense fees. They are meant to ride up bull runs and dump in bears (unless inverse obviously). All gains and losses are multiplied by the same amount... just depends if stonk go up or down.

[Anonymous No.20269556]

>>20269519
Isn't the point of tmf to offset this? I was hoping to keep money in tqqq:tmf 1:1 the next 2 or so weeks due to not really wanting to play options during earnings season

[Anonymous No.20269568]

>>20269533
r*ddit seethe

[Anonymous No.20269578]

>>20269525
Shit I'm just looking for some yield and cap preservation. MINT and VDC for me until bonds stop acting like retards.

[Anonymous No.20269585]

>>20269545
Well they "sell off" on downturns versus if you bought 3x shares and buy up on upturns due to rebalancing.

You get a weird profile that you might not want. I don't think it's too bad of a strategy to use them as a portion of your portfolio if you are actively investing or trading with the rest successfully too.

100% TQQQ isn't the worst way to play the market though and probably risk/reward alright for young people especially smaller stacks.

[Anonymous No.20269587]

>>20269538
TSM, MSFT, and EVRI for a gamble. Got in 5.83

[Anonymous No.20269593]

>no shit retard

[Anonymous No.20269605]

>>20269578
That's why people hold JNJ. It's essentially a bond at this point.

[Anonymous No.20269615]

>>20268704

I'm holding until TSLA gets added to the S&P500

>>20268721

I don't know to be honest, I can't predict the future but as I said before I'm hopping TSLA gets added to the S&P500 which is going to pump it's price even more. I'm long term investor

[Anonymous No.20269616]

>>20269568
so why didn't do it in 2009 you retard?
backtesting performance like this is pointless but you need more than 80 IQ to understand

[Anonymous No.20269617]

>>20269556
I don't like TMF because we are at the end of the largest bond bull run ever and interest rates are at lows. Though the TQQQ likely offsets things. I'm not sure, we might be entering a time period where TQQQ/TMF isn't sensible, perhaps a month or two from now if coronavirus treatments hit emergency authorization.

My strategy is more active than rebalancing.

[Anonymous No.20269620]

>>20269593
>>20269568
wow you're fucking assblasted upset aren't you
how about a pic of your gains with your shitty portfolio instead of hindsight dreaming

[Anonymous No.20269622]

>>20269471
>>20269545
Absolutely. Here's a table
comparing unleveraged vs 2x, 3x, and the same leverages except buying above the 200 and selling below. I circled the latter 2x and the note under the table specifies the expected gains
Here's a link to the original paper: https://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=2741701

[Anonymous No.20269627]

>>20269616
>>20269620
t. hedgecel IDF

[Anonymous No.20269632]

>>20269152
>euros
the state of americans.

[Anonymous No.20269633]

>>20269508
Buying "good" companies and investing in an industry you understand is pretty universal investment advice. I got spooked and sold my DENN positions at a slight loss, but you should consider the fact that it's trading at like a 6 P/E ratio and that historically 75% of companies trading at under 10 P/E have the price of their stock increase in the next 10 years.

[Anonymous No.20269646]

>>20269627
tqqq soxl and tesla master race sry

[Anonymous No.20269661]

>>20269622
I always used leverage before going into 3x etfs. Something about gaining shares alongside price was always nice. I think using leverage is actually by far the best strategy due to exponential capability. It's actually less risky in the long run imo, because eventually your gains will be enough to outweigh the worst draw downs. Just have to hit some bull run moments and not get wiped out on march events.

[Anonymous No.20269677]

the Federal Reserve and US Treasury have enacted rationing and there's a nationwide shortage of coins.

[Anonymous No.20269684]

Will this new chinese ev company beat out NIO? Haven't done much DD on Li Auto but it's name is shit so i can't imagine it ever picking up.

[Anonymous No.20269685]

>>20269661
for instance there is something quite unique about going from say 30 shares to 200 shares in a company as it goes up while reducing your total leverage in the process.

That's really only possible with leverage/options/margin etc.

[Anonymous No.20269689]

>>20269538
I dont really wheel much desu
Writing puts just isnt worth it statistically.

Only AMD right now. Have one put open for 52.5. Wanted the 50 bucks to not feel bad when I fill up my gas tank this day. Worst case I get AMD at 52.5, best case I get 50 bucks for free.

[Anonymous No.20269704]

>>20269172
Ok. Tell me your plays

[Anonymous No.20269705]

>>20269685
It really is beautiful

[Anonymous No.20269710]

>>20269452
I've done the same but got fucked hard, transitioning to trading futures as soon as my forms are handled. The aversion to running out of day trades is what really fucked me over

[Anonymous No.20269720]

>>20269689
>gasoline half the price it's been for 15 years
>feel bad
What're you Californian where they have such insane gas taxes and mandates that your gasoline never got cheaper while I'm paying less than $2, and for a week, less than $1 a gallon?

[Anonymous No.20269734]

>>20269710
Yeah it was stupid, but I only have done so in a few points in time. I'm pretty much done with options for the foreseeable future now.

[Anonymous No.20269738]

Since we can't get TQQQ in UK. How can we replicate it?

[Anonymous No.20269749]

Lol

[Anonymous No.20269754]

>>20269738
Just get a TQQQ trading loicense from the queen

[Anonymous No.20269766]

>>20269749
>after giving away 2.9 billion
seethe

[Anonymous No.20269769]

>>20269749
Hopefully that fossilized senile turd can finally drop dead soon so I can stop hearing about him

[Anonymous No.20269771]

>>20269738
If you can trade QQQ, then you can get 3x leverage from Interactive Brokers and a pretty cheap rate.

[Anonymous No.20269780]

>>20269615
Holding too, sp500 will pump it, and index investors will stabilize the stock. Tsla might raise capital adding billions to the balance sheet. Looking forward to passive investors pouring money into tesla

[Anonymous No.20269783]

>>20269771
IBKR is pretty much the best. Just having access to low % margin is pretty important even if you aren't using it.

[Anonymous No.20269784]

>>20269738
Also, I don't know if Euroc*cks can trade futures but if you can, you can achieve any leverage trading /NQ futures.

[Anonymous No.20269786]

>>20269738
wut? I've been trading TQQQ on IG.com for ages now. It'll be on Interactive Brokers too.

[Anonymous No.20269788]

>>20269720
I paid 1.16€/liter. So just shy of 5€ a gallon or $5.5
Go figure.

[Anonymous No.20269795]

not fucking good at all.

[Anonymous No.20269801]

>>20269710
I trade /ES and /ZF like it's going out of style. Just be careful with the leverage and you'll make it

[Anonymous No.20269803]

>>20269788
>mfw it was 99 cents a gallon for a few days

[Anonymous No.20269811]

>>20269738
>Since we can't get TQQQ in UK
I'm German and I bought TQQQ from LSE. Most likely you should be able to do the same....
I also could ahve bought it from MIL or straight from Nasdaq via IKBR

[Anonymous No.20269814]

>>20269749
How can I email him? You think he would venmo me a gift too?

[Anonymous No.20269815]

>>20269795
oh no, the people who sold "social media" stocks like fb and goog down crazily on minor headlines are in the market? What a terrible thing.

[Anonymous No.20269824]

>>20269677
Bullish for payment processors

>>20269795
Scary stuff, does that mean a lot of algos are turned off?

[Anonymous No.20269825]

>>20269811

[Anonymous No.20269826]

>>20269617
Do you have a recommendation for a different hedge?

[Anonymous No.20269832]

>>20269784
I've got an ISA (tax free investment) with trading 212 and AJ Bell and they don't offer options

[Anonymous No.20269840]

>>20269826
Nope sadly. My approach is just going to be actively trading and my portion of picks hopefully outperforming enough. That and building enough gains to offset.

[Anonymous No.20269842]

>>20269801
Realized I'm pretty good at seeing tops/bottoms/reveresals in the current trading range we're in for s&p500. I'll be starting out with 1 or 2 micro e-mini contracts to see how i perform

[Anonymous No.20269849]

E-TRADE OWNED BY MORGAN STANLEY INCREASED MARGIN REQUIREMENT ON TESLA

[Anonymous No.20269864]

>>20269786
Is that through an ISA?

[Anonymous No.20269872]

>>20268553
The USPS contract is going to come down to WKHS or Ford. USPS will not select a foreign auto maker. Shorts will exit by this Tuesday, the risk of getting caught in a short position with the USPS contract potentially coming in at any time is way too risky. Even if the WKHS gets a 20% piece of the contract the share price could increase 10x.

[Anonymous No.20269876]

>>20269795
>the peons are trading
Oy vey we need regulation stat. What do you think they'll be banning or requiring a license for? My bet is you'll need some sort of SEC certificate for options trading within 5 years.

[Anonymous No.20269878]

>>20269840
well and the gov action puts

There are a lot of if/then things, like if for some reason republicans stop stimulus then it assures a dem win and flood of crazy stimulus. Same with fed / gov behavior in general acting as a soft put on the market for everyone.

[Anonymous No.20269879]

Who bought EVRI on Friday

[Anonymous No.20269884]

nio hasnt moved a cent all day today....... what kind of signal is this??????

[Anonymous No.20269887]

>>20269879
What watcher is that?

[Anonymous No.20269895]

>>20269884
It's a signal that today the stock exchange is closed

[Anonymous No.20269896]

Imagine getting shaken out because they weren't ready to make the announcement yet

[Anonymous No.20269899]

at this point the market is on rolling upwards and the gravity is at the top of the mountain, it's almost comical how high this can go.

[Anonymous No.20269907]

>>20269896
shaken out of what? this looks promising

[Anonymous No.20269918]

>>20269899
so to put into context we are at a "bad reopen" timeline and look at the indexes. Although some might be people not try

[Anonymous No.20269922]

>>20269896
this is actually bad news for wichita

kansas was supposed to be a cheap place to live for neets who wanted 300 rent and bare minimum expenses

now amazon will drive up the living costs there

[Anonymous No.20269931]

>>20269896
Oh boy, another city for Amazon to absolutely ruin.

[Anonymous No.20269932]

>>20269918
although there is probably going to be a second rotation attempt away from tech at some point, it's going to be very short, but the "bad reopen" has paused it for now.

In any case there's basically no thinking/dd to do aside from going long. People with complicated thought processes on this market are losing.

[Anonymous No.20269955]

>>20269922
Short KansASS, Long Wyoming

[Anonymous No.20269966]

btw 23 March 2020 was the beginning of the 28 year bull run. I hope you bought.

[Anonymous No.20269992]

>>20269622
That's a good chart anon.

[Anonymous No.20270000]

>>20269895
kek. summer fags

[Anonymous No.20270001]

Just saw a TV commercial for Ford’s reveal of the bronco on Monday. Should I be nervous? I sold 7/31 $6.5 calls (covered) and I kinda want to keep em. I guess best case is it goes up but not to 6.5?

[Anonymous No.20270013]

>>20270001
>trading F at all
R*ddithood trannies get out

[Anonymous No.20270014]

>>20270001
>owning ford stock

[Anonymous No.20270015]

>>20270001
Ford stock never does anything interesting.

[Anonymous No.20270016]

>>20269876
Somewhere in America, a white man just made enough money on tesla options that he NEVER has to work another single day for Mr. Nosenberg again. This is, naturally, extremely antisemetic and must be stopped at all costs.

[Anonymous No.20270034]

>>20268455
Asked my girlfriend who has a masters in biology and she said it's promising but still in the early stages of development. I doubt we'll see real movement for a few months. I don't think they have even started human trials yet. Probably long holds for those investors who bought cheap and don't have to worry about much downside but the upside could be fantastic.

[Anonymous No.20270036]

We've seen no slowdown of the stockmartket with 100,000+ extra deaths this year, what are the real affects that 200,000+ extra deaths would have on the economy? Or 300,000? How many would have to die for it to actually matter?

[Anonymous No.20270050]

>>20268148

Convince me to not sell XOM on monday for 1400$ loss. total exposure rn 16k$

Should i sell before earnings quarter results.
Im scared guys

[Anonymous No.20270060]

reminder the incredible stimulus and central bank action was done to protect the top portion of the ponzi pyramid. Everyone outside that, including almost all of us are getting the crumbs.

[Anonymous No.20270070]

>>20269966
Yes

[Anonymous No.20270069]

>>20269931
What does amazon do to the cities they build facilities in?

[Anonymous No.20270072]

>>20269887
yahoo finance. Search ticket and scroll down

[Anonymous No.20270078]

>>20269932
>In any case there's basically no thinking/dd to do aside from going long. People with complicated thought processes on this market are losing

Came to this exact conclusion a few weeks ago and I'm so glad I did.

[Anonymous No.20270082]

>>20270050
>XOM
you're a fucking retard that should buy SPY, log off and never look at it again, and never visit here, or use your tiny brain on the market ever again, fucking donkey

[Anonymous No.20270084]

>>20270036
It's not the number it's the demographic. Only 30-50 y/o cohort really matters because that's who controls all the spending. Oldfags dying is priced in. If the virus mutated and started killing 30-50y/os, the market would get crushed.

[Anonymous No.20270089]

>>20269803
based.webm

[Anonymous No.20270096]

>>20270050
Just hold and it’ll eventually go back up

[Anonymous No.20270097]

>>20270036
>extra
No one's ever going to be able to unravel how many actually died to Covid because it's all been fucked for political purposes.

Coincidentally the same year we had Covid influenza and pneumonia had its lowest death toll in modern record. Is that a coincidence? A Cohencidence?

[Euranon No.20270102]

>>20269622
Thanks bro. I definitely owe you a few grand. Hopefully that will be more in the future

[Anonymous No.20270103]

>>20269966
based MSFT. got some calls when it dipped on Friday up 5% already

[Anonymous No.20270118]

>>20270103
Why would anyone sell calls on msft?

[Anonymous No.20270123]

>>20270050
OIL EARNINGS WILL BE BLOODY. IT WILL BE A MASSACRE.

BAD EARNINGS ARE NOT PRICED IN. SCREEN CAP THIS. XOM $30 IMMINENT

[Anonymous No.20270125]

>>20270078
yeah it's funny to me how hated the market will be at the end of august when it's +10% from here

[Anonymous No.20270130]

NIO will hit $18 eow

[Anonymous No.20270141]

>>20270123
beep boop earnings report

must follow data

beep boop.

imagine being a robotic investor who buys things based on earnings reports and data instead of just thinking about whats good and what isnt

[Anonymous No.20270149]

>>20270082

Oh big boii tell me what'd you buy so fancy..
tell me your big brain move.
I mostly invested it for the dividend , and oil will be demanded for at least another 100yrs until no one uses it for gas.
Even gas today has only impact of 20% , the most part of 80% goes into the industry , Trucks planes and ships.

You mongoloid.

[Anonymous No.20270180]

>>20270036

[Anonymous No.20270195]

>>20270097
Lockdowns, social distancing and masks would obviously reduce flu/pneumonia propagation

[Anonymous No.20270209]

My uncle works for a large supplier for domestic oil production in the US. He said that a lot of them are decommissioning their drills, etc. because it's better for tax purposes to break them up rather than keep them intact. Make of that what you will.

[Anonymous No.20270211]

I think I’m going to quit my job once I hit 75k and just trade. Considering maybe just getting a bar tending job for the extra cash and because I could do it outside of trading hours. I just want to wake up, trade until market close, then play video games the rest of the day. If I get to 75k I’m doing it fuck it.

[Anonymous No.20270222]

>>20270036
Honestly we need a purge of everyone 70+ so they can stop draining bloated pension systems, medicare, and SS. This will allow us to slow down importing 3rd worlders to prop them all up and have better border control.

[Anonymous No.20270224]

>>20270195
we really need a way to expose to the human body to a virus while containing the virus. Something like a tube coming out and circling back in that you can "cage" the virus into and let the immune system build antibodies for it via adaptive response.

Then just put every new disease and virus into the "container" and let everyone build immunity to it.

[Anonymous No.20270228]

>>20270211
Don't do bar tending at a big bar. I worked at a wetherspoons for a year and it was awful. Was getting back home at like 3 am, had to deal with cleaning toilets, waiting, making drinks all with dealing with hundreds of drunk people.

[Anonymous No.20270229]

>>20270222
Based

[Anonymous No.20270239]

>>20269204
It isn't, euros don't matter.

[Anonymous No.20270244]

>>20270224
like if you just had some little attachment to your ankle that you put virus and stuff into. Just have to find a way to contain it so you can expose everyone's immune system to everything.

Then you can stop a lot of medical shit with a one-stop solution of just putting every new virus into the box you want immunity to.

[Anonymous No.20270245]

>>20270211
That sounds incredibly stressful knowing you HAVE to make successful trades all the time in order to eat. If you have the stomach for it props, but having a very secure line of income sounds a lot better.

[Anonymous No.20270254]

>>20268284
god that comic is so satisfying

[Anonymous No.20270257]

>>20270209
i thinks the govvament finna pass a stimulus to bail they asses out

[Anonymous No.20270267]

how retarded am I that I will just put my money into a new car if I "make" it
im too much of a shitbox lover not to buy the new Z car
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aiqOLRJi7nU

[Anonymous No.20270280]

>>20270267
very, depreciating asset. You want to compound gain not waste gains.

[Anonymous No.20270282]

>>20270013
>>20270014
Bought it for an average of 4.50 so fuck off
>>20270015
Which is why covered calls

[Anonymous No.20270286]

>>20270211
When I become a NEET-trader I will sleep like 90% of every day, eat the other 5%, video games 4%, fapping 1%

[Anonymous No.20270308]

>>20270280
shut the fuck up nolifer. let him have his car when he makes it and keep living in your one room appartment that only has a bed and a desk with a pc on it you """""compound gainer"""""

[Anonymous No.20270319]

>>20270102
No problem fren!

[Anonymous No.20270324]

>>20270211
get 20k worth of synths/drumboxes music gear and work on your production game mane whilst yous trade and game on yopur lane dont stay lame spit bars also

[Anonymous No.20270328]

Daily reminder that the only reason Tesla is pumping is another Jewish ploy to rob what little is left of middle class America.

>only stock exposure most middle class Americans own is S&P 500 index funds
>looks like Tesla will be adding to the S&P 500 in a couple quarters
>pump the bags to the moon the 6 months before it gets added
>S&P funds are forced to buy up all the stock at these unrealistic evaluations that are impossible to maintain
>Middle class America is forced to ride it down to the bottom, absorbing all of the losses while experiencing none of the gains

[Anonymous No.20270331]

>>20270280
If you have a job and have to commute a car you like is an investment in your mental health. Gains aren’t everything

[Anonymous No.20270335]

>>20269803
protesting the protests, nice. this is what you get when you take it too far. should have ended when that cop was charged. only fools still believe it's about police brutality.

[Anonymous No.20270338]

>>20270286
its not enough im living that life right now

you gotta have a hobby im trying to find it still for years

if you wake up in the middle of the night guess what the markets not open

and you gotta find something to do ur time

over-fapping will blow your dopamine out and youll feel depressed

its not easy to balance to say fuck it ill just sleep

sometimes sleeping is painful when youre hot and its daytime and like youre not tired anymore and you are fully rested

[Anonymous No.20270341]

>>20270149
>I mostly invested it for the dividend
you just went from retard to turbo retard. good job
if you wanted gains from oil going back up, you should have just bought wti contract. but it's too late (because you're a retard remember)
now you can choose to remain retarded, or just buy tqqq, soxl, or even spy

[Anonymous No.20270349]

>>20270224
That's pretty much a more obtuse way of vaccination friendo

[Anonymous No.20270355]

>>20270245
I work in shipping, so I could always just do part time. It’s just a taxing wagie job, the pay is good and I don’t have to deal with the public, but I hate my coworkers and generally just want to take the Underground Railroad out of slave waging. Lmao phone posting on an iPhone and it capitalized underground railroad

[Anonymous No.20270366]

what's the next TSM? can't believe /smg/ was actually on point with price discovery. Started with a couple shills that converted the rest of everyone to shill it because the DD was actually legit.

why was TSM so overlooked compared to the rest of tech/semi? PE ratio is still lower than 25.

[Anonymous No.20270370]

>>20268683
>betting against america
Never gonna make it.

[Anonymous No.20270392]

>>20270349
Yeah but it works for everything the immune system can react to and all you need is a disease sample. If you can guarantee containment you can put anything into it.

[Anonymous No.20270399]

>>20270211
you will absolutely not be able to make returns from that initial 75k to pay your monthly shit and continuously grow it unless you get some good initial luck with options or other bullshit mooning

[Anonymous No.20270400]

You guys think Evri and sava are long holds or pnd type of deals?

[Anonymous No.20270423]

Thinking of borrowing out of my 401k to put down payment on my first real house at $299k. I've got jitters. Hope the stock market doesn't fuck me over.

[Anonymous No.20270431]

>>20270341

We'll see each other in 2yrs anon.

[Anonymous No.20270439]

Rate my portfolio, I'm also $630 cash if that means anything.

[Anonymous No.20270442]

>>20270324
What’s funny is that I actually do produce. Ableton chad.

[Anonymous No.20270449]

I’m bullish to see how my new strategy works next week. I decided to dump some things at a loss.

[Anonymous No.20270451]

>>20269211
I like it

What else ya got?

[Anonymous No.20270457]

>>20270423
>$300k
>for a house
Where ever you live it's overpriced.

[Anonymous No.20270460]

>>20270400
casinos opening up my dude, this shit can run and could be a long term hold.

The bearish news for EVRI would be a second lockdown

[Anonymous No.20270462]

>>20270392
If that was a viable method a biotech upstart would already have done it most likely, and if not why don't you try starting it anon, if it works you'd be a billionaire

[Anonymous No.20270482]

>>20270457
Where I live nothing is under 750k. Moving to Georgia as soon as I make it. Tired of this fag state.

[Anonymous No.20270488]

>>20270462
Well, if I worked on any start up it would be AI for obvious reasons.

[Anonymous No.20270493]

>>20270439
>AMD/TSM
you'll be sad you didn't put more into them after a couple years.
Boomers who don't understand tech assume it's another dotcom bubble, but I assume you already know that's not that case if you bought both of them and already did your DD.

[Anonymous No.20270512]

>>20270482
blame the banks for using an illegal practice called usury to sucker people into buying stuff they cant afford

and keeping the prices out of reach

[Anonymous No.20270531]

>>20269622
So what you're saying is, put all of my money into 3x leveraged ETFs that follow an index like S&P?

[Anonymous No.20270553]

>>20270531
Sure, just don't freak out in here if it goes to 0.

[Anonymous No.20270560]

>>20270493
>Boomers who don't understand tech assume it's another dotcom bubble
It is.

[Anonymous No.20270565]

just imagine buying wayfair at the corona low. holy shit i am hindsight dreaming a little bit too much

[Anonymous No.20270583]

>>20270457
cities are just that overpriced. My sis just bought a 4 bedroom house in brampton (near Toronto) and it was almost US$500K for a shitty semi-detached bungalow. Already has a couple family friends looking to rent at ~US$400 per room, mind you that's actually a discounted rate compared to market.

you'd think that real estate would crash with unemployment and debt repayments, but it was ultimately a miniscule dip and things are already picking back up. Turns out the people who lost their job were too poor to own a house in the first place, and there's actually been a surge in cottage country real estate since a lot of people can work from their cottage now.

[Anonymous No.20270585]

>>20270560
Remember to post the same picture with an even higher covid peak in 6 months lmao

[Anonymous No.20270601]

>>20269129
k i'm going to write something here that you're not going to like but it's true and you will trade better in future if you remember it: parabolic shit ALWAYS does significant retrace of the move. It's not because of muh kikes and not because muh weak hands etc. Or it is, but those things were also the reason the stock moved up so fast in the first place. You can't ride the wave up thinking it's a virtuous and right price action, then call manipulation when it goes down the other side. Avoid holier than thou cope of the ever so virtuous long; blaming tree shaking, weak hands, devilish shorts etc standing in the way of your OBVIOUSLY perfectly sensible investment.

[Anonymous No.20270610]

>>20270583
real estate takes time

[Anonymous No.20270612]

>>20270583
>98% of Canada is empty
>but don't let anyone build anything
>allow chinks to buy up the four metro areas people are "allowed to live in"
>pay $1.3 million for 900 squarefoot postage stamps or just be homeless

[Anonymous No.20270622]

>>20270560
don't put AMD and TSM in the same bubble as shit like Zoom, Netflix, Tesla, or Shopify
if you have enough literacy to be in /smg/, you should also have enough tech literacy to understand what tech picks are actually solid.

[Anonymous No.20270624]

>>20269922
>>20268997
>>20270512
imagine having to act like retards on camera all day to make a living, growing older and it only gets harder to keep up the act but it's the only thing you've ever done

[Anonymous No.20270631]

>>20270601
Why do you type like a redditor nigger faggot? I already told you I got my money. It's not "cope". The "bubble" shill can be shown to have provably lied about what he claimed. None of this is "cope" you anime tranny.

[Anonymous No.20270633]

>>20270553
How often does it go to zero?

[Anonymous No.20270634]

>>20270366
nobody likes TSM because "Taiwan".

TSMC revenues for June 2020 were NT$120.9B (US$4.1B), an increase of 28.8 percent from May 2020, and an increase of 40.8 percent from June 2019. Revenues for January through June 2020 totaled NT$621.3B (US$21.1B), an increase of 35.2 percent compared to the same period in 2019.
With prices nearly touching $65 yesterday and the company reporting impressive revenue and sales numbers in June, nothing but a bullish pick.

We know that Apple cancels Macbook chips from Intel. Only TSMC and Samsung have the ability to manufacture technology level for Apple. Samsung is a COMPETITOR on smart phones for Apple. TSMC just had capacity open up with loss of Huawei.

With the case for 5G strengthening , it's no doubt TSM is bullish choice and is a rapidly growing company. Also pays a nice dividend..
As well, Danish wind giant Ørsted announced today that Taiwan Semiconductor Manufacturing Co. (TSMC) has agreed to buy the entire power production from Ørsted’s third offshore wind farm in Taiwan. It’s the world’s biggest corporate green energy order. Green business is always great PR and attracts the likes of Google, Facebook

[Anonymous No.20270647]

>>20270612
Home location - a luxury overpriced brand
Universities - a luxury overpriced brand

hmmm

[Anonymous No.20270654]

>>20270622
are AMD and TSM in the same ETFs as Zoom, Netflix, Tesla, and Shopify?

[Anonymous No.20270664]

>>20270612
that's mostly an issue with BC and the chinese using those real estate to launder their china money.
It's not as extreme around the GTA

[Anonymous No.20270666]

>>20270431
i already made multiple 400-600% gains on wti after the dip, good luck holding garbage stocks for two years.

[Anonymous No.20270679]

>>20270585
Even if the bubble is still inflating 6 months from now doesn't mean it's not a bubble retard. I'm not saying don't buy tech right now or don't make money from it; I'm saying don't fall in love with it.
When a fucking EV company has a larger market cap than 6 automobile manufacturers combined or one of the world's largest banks, we're in a bubble. And if you don't see that, please don't produce offspring

[Anonymous No.20270683]

>>20269878
That's the most dystopian picture i have seen out of this whole pandemic and riot season.

[Anonymous No.20270693]

>>20270634
it just sucks that "Taiwan" label is what will keep TSM as a reasonably-valued and consistent grower instead of mooning like AMD or NVDA.
though at the same time I guess that's also a good thing so I can just keep putting money into TSM over time without worrying about timing too much.

[Anonymous No.20270709]

>>20270679
I think it's more that the secular growth and obvious out performance in so many different ways alongside PE multiple expansion and TINA etc.

It's not a surprise in any way what prices these stocks command given all of these factors.

[Anonymous No.20270715]

How can I invest in burgerpunk?

[Anonymous No.20270720]

>>20270457
I live in a shitty part of Toronto and the average house is about 600k CAD.
Condo near Rogers Centre start at 1 Mil CAD. House in the suburbs outside Toronto are 650k+ CAD

[Anonymous No.20270724]

>>20270679
Then what's the point of sperging out about bubbles, if you can ride the hypothetical bubble for months or years to come? It's a moot point to brand it as a bubble if you're not even sure it will pop at any point in the near future or at all

[Anonymous No.20270725]

>>20270654
SOXX has a lot of TSM from what I remember.
to be honest I don't actually hold AMD since that PE ratio still scares the fuck outta me even though I sort of believe that's still a fair valuation given that supply was a bit of bottleneck previously.

[Anonymous No.20270768]

WKHS bag holders now recruited to pump EVRI

[Anonymous No.20270773]

>muh vaccine!

Basically this is shilled anytime some biotech CEO wants to cash out hundred million shares of some pump and dump shit stock.

They've been trying to make a corona virus vaccine for 20+ years. Its literally trying to vaccinate for the common cold. Its impossible. Of course no one will tell you that because anyone in power, politicians or business leaders, need to get re-elected or cash out.

Never mind the economy is absolutely fucked regardless of corona. The virus could magically disappear tomorrow. You still have 30+ million unemployed, the majority of the country getting by on government handouts. Those either stop or the dollar collapses. Then the rug gets pulled and the house of cards collapses.

Parties not over yet through apparently, the rich are milking the fuck out of this stock bubble and the dumb money is buying right into it to cash them out.

[Anonymous No.20270788]

UK/YURO bros, what brokers do you use?

I was thinking of using Trade Station and it works with a trading view and there are a lot of great sources that work with it

[Anonymous No.20270796]

>>20270633
>How often does it go to zero?
Daily rebalanced 3x leveraged S&P has been backtested 150 years and has never went to zero. If it's something that would keep you up at night you can just buy the 2x SSO or sell when the underlying -SPY in this case- passes below the 200 daily moving average and buying back in when it goes above it

[Anonymous No.20270798]

>>20270693
yup, been adding to TSM. got some calls during the little profit taking dip we had after hitting a new ATH

[Anonymous No.20270801]

>>muh vaccine!
>Basically this is shilled anytime some biotech CEO wants to cash out hundred million shares of some pump and dump shit stock.
>They've been trying to make a corona virus vaccine for 20+ years. Its literally trying to vaccinate for the common cold. Its impossible. Of course no one will tell you that because anyone in power, politicians or business leaders, need to get re-elected or cash out.
>Never mind the economy is absolutely fucked regardless of corona. The virus could magically disappear tomorrow. You still have 30+ million unemployed, the majority of the country getting by on government handouts. Those either stop or the dollar collapses. Then the rug gets pulled and the house of cards collapses.
>Parties not over yet through apparently, the rich are milking the fuck out of this stock bubble and the dumb money is buying right into it to cash them out.

[Anonymous No.20270813]

>>20268996
This guy watches Dave Lee

[Anonymous No.20270836]

>>20270768
Funds won't be settled till Tuesday, fomo is already kicking in

[Anonymous No.20270846]

>>20270709
There are several indicators that say this market is completely decoupled from reality, sure.
>>20270724
You said it's not a dot-com bubble, I was refuting that point.
Well the thing is, the bubble could pop at anytime. All it takes is a prick.... something like... abysmal earnings for Financials in Q2?

[Anonymous No.20270866]

>>20270813
Isn't that the Asian tech reviewer who clearly knows nothing about tech?

[Anonymous No.20270881]

>>20270773
>common cold = covid-19
ok bro. 200+ strains are the same as the covid-19 strain
as long as mutation rate isn't ridicilous, vaccine is reasonable once people find out how to reliably vaccinate against corona viruses. No one cared before because SARS didn't need one and clinical shit is expensive as fuck

[Anonymous No.20270882]

>muh bubble
lmao it never gets old watching these r*dditors try to cope with missing the bottom

[Anonymous No.20270892]

>>20270209
>a lot of them are decommissioning their drills, etc. because it's better for tax purposes to break them up rather than keep them intact
thanks anon, appreciated. Additional notes I've taken from other anons that seem true
>logistics is short staffed for warehouse and drivers
>China is actually kind of flooding in some areas
>no current shortage of certain medical supplies like first aid
>AAPL will be making big moves around Q3/Q4

[Euranon No.20270893]

>>20270319

>the year is 2030
>hello miss, 1 cybertruck for me and one for my friend SOXL_shill please
>perfect, that'll be 1 TQQQ share
>"That's very kind of you Euranon, but the current price is 40 grand above the 200 day moving average, you musn't let go of your shares.
>Thanks SOXL_shill, good looking out.

[Anonymous No.20270908]

>>20270846
All I'm saying is that for the first time ever I can understand people who are FOMOing into tech and I think it's justified, given that some of the big-tech and semi's have amazing growth potential, be it a 'bubble' or not.

[Anonymous No.20270990]

>>20270788
interactive brokers but tradestation international seems good (no monthly fee)

[Anonymous No.20271009]

>>20270451
Want more? Try 10x cell phones and pizza.

[Anonymous No.20271016]

>>20271010
>>20271010
>>20271010

new

>>20271010
>>20271010
>>20271010
>>20271010

[Anonymous No.20271025]

>>20271009
>pick some winners and backtest
>insane returns
woooooooow u must be so smart

[Anonymous No.20271043]

>>20270882
I think it was reasonable to assume it was a bubble, given what actually was happening in the real world. But now I've accepted that stonks only go up, so really there is no "bad" time to buy as it will inevitably be higher than it was last quarter.

[Anonymous No.20271044]

>>20271009
based

[Anonymous No.20271047]

>>20271009
damn DPZ wont be that cheap anytime soon

[Anonymous No.20271063]

>>20271009
>>20269211
>cell phones and pizza!!

[Anonymous No.20271071]

>>20268148
Odds that this vaccine starts killing people 1 month after many take it?

[Anonymous No.20271126]

>>20268351
Really wish I'd see when people do this. The conviction they do this with and then post it online only make me want to do the opposite on specific companies. 30k on buy calls with TSLA. Id be rich.

[Anonymous No.20271157]

>>20269458
>Monopoly Man sightings

[Anonymous No.20271220]

NIO hasnt moved all day..... what kind of signal is this?

[Anonymous No.20271246]

>>20271220
It’s Saturday you fool.

[Anonymous No.20271316]

>>20271071
mayb understand what vaccines are first, my retarded schizo anon

[Anonymous No.20271323]

>>20270893
Fantastic!

[Anonymous No.20271324]

>>20271071
Odds that it kills 1 person per month after many take it and the media blows it up because they want to keep the panic going?

[Anonymous No.20271334]

>>20269190
What is s-m-h?

[Anonymous No.20271365]

>>20271334
An unleveraged ETF very similar to what SOXL is based on. SOXX is another one

[Anonymous No.20271388]

>>20271334
Take out the hyphens. The 4chan word filter is why they're there

[Anonymous No.20271566]

>>20270431
I an with you holding SHLL at 15% loss