ETH 2.0 Phase 0 delayed until 2021 due to "holidays" and "making it hard on ourselves"

[Anonymous No.20252489]

"All the above cannot happen in Q3 2020. With Thanksgiving on November 26 and the December holidays I'd say the latest practical opportunity for genesis in 2020 is mid-November, 4 months from now. As such, I'm now inclined to say that the earliest practical date for genesis is something like January 3, 2021 (Bitcoin's 12th anniversary)."

Ok, people who are in ethereum dev circles. Where will everyone be moving? Ethereum will not keep its first mover advantage into 2021 so obviously people are accumulating something else

[Anonymous No.20252517]

eth is a mess

[Anonymous No.20252547]

I'm out here putting my life savings into a development team who couldn't give a fuck while 8 year olds are making millions opening toys and belle delphine is raking it in selling bath water.

[Anonymous No.20252583]

>>20252517
I'm hoping this is some jui jitsu to ruin speculators who are longing, but I think the team is honestly this dysfunctional. They should be embarrassed and teams that build on eth should hold them accountable. No one criticizes them.

[Anonymous No.20252734]

great news, gives me more time accumulate :)

[Anonymous No.20252763]

>>20252489
sauce on this?

[Anonymous No.20252825]

>>20252489
does anyone on this board even understand the history of eth. where did skeletor come from? why was he kicked out of mastercoin project?
or are all of you retarded stupid nigger zoomies?

[Anonymous No.20252999]

>>20252489
im Keeping a few eth and my RLC. . had 100 ETH a few months ago. now I have like 10 fuck this shitcoin. eth 2.0 5 years away doesn't seem to be a meme.

[Anonymous No.20253076]

>>20252489
So are the Cardano shills right in the end?

[Anonymous No.20253107]

>>20253076
Vitalik premined 70 mil ETH. I actually think it started out to be a scam.

[Anonymous No.20253119]

>>20253076
No, Cardano sucks.

[Anonymous No.20253153]

>>20253076
Fuck yeah! I just bought another 25k
>>20253119
ETH maximalists on literal suicide watch

[Anonymous No.20253432]

holidays are when im most suicidal

[Anonymous No.20253453]

>>20252763
the reddit AMA

[Anonymous No.20253496]

Lmao @ all the scrubs who call eth a scam

[Anonymous No.20253513]

>yeah I did not say 2020

[Anonymous No.20253589]

>>20253496
>> 70 mil premine is not a scam.

>>20252489
thanks OP. Sold all my ETH ( at profit ) moved into ADA and Tezos. I think the rumours I heard about ETH2.0 going to take years more is going to be true. and the competition is going to eat ETHs marketcap and take the new investors money too.

[Anonymous No.20254077]

>>20253589
i'm looking to dump ETH too but tezos and ada don't look like good plays to me. ADA has had one of the worst charts in crypto and tezos has been doing terribly lately

[Anonymous No.20254122]

>>20254077
Bitcoin did the same thing loads before pumping to 10k

[Anonymous No.20254149]

>>20252489
Try 2022 at best. THIS IS A HARMONY THREAD NOW.

[Anonymous No.20254164]

>yeah I didn’t say ETH 2.0 was ever happening I was just kidding

What did Vitallik mean by this?

[Anonymous No.20254167]

Solana?
Chainlink integration, insane team. Only problem is circulating supply

[Anonymous No.20254177]

>>20253076
Nope they are further behind than Eth w/no smart contracts even in testing yet. Cardano won’t be ready for prime time until 2023 and even these newfag moonbois know it. Until then Harmony or Fantom.

[Anonymous No.20254200]

>>20254077
I bought just after the news came out, at 1255 sat. its now 1295 sat. I put a stoploss and im safe. easy.

[Anonymous No.20254218]

>>20254177
ada will have smart contracts before EOY.

[Anonymous No.20254219]

sad

[Anonymous No.20254261]

>>20254218
They are t even in testing. How will they go live before 2022? You are why I know it’s going back to 3 cents.

[Anonymous No.20254307]

>>20254261
they scheduled it for Q4, testnet in Q3. if they can deliver they have won.

[Anonymous No.20254333]

>>20254261
How will they go live before 2022?

Learn to read a fucking roadmap dipshit

[Anonymous No.20254339]

>>20252489
imagine thinking this

[Anonymous No.20254461]

>>20252489
Source?

[Anonymous No.20254529]

If technology mattered as much as everyone ITT thinks it does, btc wouldnt be as far ahead as everything else right now.

[Anonymous No.20254569]

>>20254461
AMA, one dev said it might come out on Jan 3rd. Vitalik disagreed and said it could come sooner.

[Anonymous No.20254578]

>>20254569
https://www.reddit.com/r/ethereum/comments/ho2zpt/ama_we_are_the_efs_eth_20_research_team_pt_4_10/fxj3vfu/?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share

[Anonymous No.20254612]

>>20254529
This, worst case other smart contract platforms just coexist with ETH.

There's already so many crosschain applications, how could ETH just lost adoption?

[Anonymous No.20254649]

>>20254612
>how could ETH just lost adoption?
How could blackberry just lose adoption?

[Anonymous No.20254710]

>>20252734

only cucks say this.

[Anonymous No.20254847]

>>20252489
Lol Im more bullish on defi and l2 on eth1 anyway kek

[Anonymous No.20254873]

>>20254649
blackberry = btc
iphone = eth
do you even know the difference between blackberry and iphone?

[Anonymous No.20254874]

Also i jsut read thread THE CARDANO cucks literally 5 years for staking testnet are makeing fun of delays KEK

[Anonymous No.20254880]

Right on time for the massive upswing after 2017 - 4 years- 2021

[Anonymous No.20254940]

>>20254873
BTC = Nokia
Blackberry = Ethereum
Cardano = iPhone

>do you even know the difference between blackberry and iphone?

Yeah one is a multi trillion dollar company and the other make money by licensing out their name to India

[Anonymous No.20254961]

>>20254940
nah one had apps the other didnt. ada is samsung, garbage chink shit (aka built by retarded uedinburgh kids)

[Anonymous No.20254992]

>>20254961
Ex ethereum devs made Cardano

[Anonymous No.20255006]

>>20254649
>>20254873
>>20254940
Im pretty sure this illustrates how dumb that comparison is. Anything can be anything else along the long line of tech usurpers using this analogy.

[Anonymous No.20255028]

>>20254992
Charles was not an ethereum dev you retard

[Anonymous No.20255034]

>>20254992
UNIVERSITY
OF
EDINBURGH
STUDENTS
MADE
CARDANO
LMAO

[Anonymous No.20255039]

>>20254992
lol you cant be this dumb

[Anonymous No.20255076]

>>20253107
wait what?

[Anonymous No.20255084]

>>20254710
you seems to be an expert in that.

[Anonymous No.20255108]

>>20255076
He's talking about the ICO, where they mined to sell to the buyers. It doesn't matter though, the distribution is roughly equal to bitcoin now anyway.

[Anonymous No.20255126]

Turing complete Smart Contracts coming to XLM. Coincidence?

[Anonymous No.20255168]

>>20252489

anyone with a brain would have jumped ship, no way 2021 is even happening. might as well start fresh the code base is a fucking bowl of spaghetti, no fucking standards at all...the code review process is fucking laughable. bunch of amateurs.

[Anonymous No.20255173]

>>20255034
Cardano is made by ex Ethereum devs.
This is true.

Also bashing University students with stupid statements like "LMAO" is very foolhardy and ignorant on your behalf. You see unlike yourself you have to be somewhat educated to attend University. Haskell was written by University students. These University kids usually end up have the last laugh.

[Anonymous No.20255214]

>>20255173
Are you fucking retarded?
Name one?

[Anonymous No.20255247]

>>20255214
Charles Hoskinson
Lead dev on Ethereum

[Anonymous No.20255296]

>>20255247
Cant say if good meme or absolute mongo

[Anonymous No.20255315]

>>20255296

[Anonymous No.20255345]

>>20255315
BASED RETARD
U know he was marketing guy who got kicked out because he wanted to take vc money right?
Also you cant be fucking dev of anything if you cant code watch more amas or something

[Anonymous No.20255491]

>>20254333
The roadmap is a mess. It's funny because if there are actual bugs found during testing 2022 will become a reality really fast. Keep in mind this is only phase 0, if they keep this development pace an actual useable ETH 2.0 will be ready in like 2030, unironically.

[Anonymous No.20255510]

>>20255491
>if there are actual bugs found during testing

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-CTNS2D-kbY&t=31s

[Anonymous No.20255632]

>>20252489
meanwhile

[Anonymous No.20255684]

>>20252489
hahaha desu the amount of brainlets that thought eth2 was coming soon is unbelievable. i expected better from this board, but it looks like it's filled with retarded faggots these days.

anyone with any technical sense easily feels eth2 phase0 end of year, and usable eth2 roughly a year later or more.

[Anonymous No.20255704]

>>20252825
Some russian village somewhere

[Anonymous No.20255712]

>>20255684
And none of this actually matters from an investment fundamentals point of view. eth1.x is more than capable of running forever, and scaling via layer2 tech.

It's kinda like people who are obsessed with IPv6 even though the current IP protocol works great. Yes, IPv6 is better overall. No, it doesn't affect my life

[Anonymous No.20255726]

>>20254261
>he doesn't know

Cardano and Emurgo
Honeycomb and Emurgo
Honeycomb and Chainlink
Chainlink and Cardano

[Anonymous No.20255792]

>>20255712
>eth1.x is more than capable of running forever, and scaling via layer2 tech.

Okay, You clearly have no fucking clue what you are talking about. What you just said is as stupid as saying what's wrong with using a 56k dial up modem in the year 2020

[Anonymous No.20255812]

>>20255792
Just plug a speedbooster into the expansion slot, duh

[Anonymous No.20255849]

Bullish for OMG, the only legit scaling solution on ethereum that scales right now to thousands of tx per second at a third of the cost and with the security of the ethereum main chain

[Anonymous No.20255867]

>>20255849
I'm more of a LRC kind of guy but whatever.

[Anonymous No.20255901]

>>20255712
actually eth w layer 2 is not fast enough to deliver the promises of DeFi

[Anonymous No.20255906]

>>20255792
>>20255812
You're both either retarded or desperately attempting to FUD, like many other bad-faith actors in this thread. Between zk-rollup and l2 solutions like Matic, eth 1.x can scale indefinitely.

If you're confused, see my analogy above:
>It's kinda like people who are obsessed with IPv6 even though the current IP protocol works great. Yes, IPv6 is better overall. No, it doesn't affect my life

[Anonymous No.20255952]

Even if phase 0 comes out in November eth 2.0 isn't interesting until phase 2, so realistically that's like 2022 at the absolute earliest.

[Anonymous No.20255961]

>>20255849
To bad that ETH Devs are actually working on their own native layer 2 solution. That will be released before ETH 2.0.

[Anonymous No.20256001]

>>20255792
This comparisons are dumbest shit ever
There are literally l2 dexes, payment walletsc/channels that can do 5-9k tps for 500% less fees on eth1 today
And barely anyone is using them
Why?
Because it breaks composability and user experience meaning retards are willing to overpay 3000% and wait 30x more just to keep using shit way the used to
Now tell me storry how "better tech" beats eth or steals daps/users specially if "better tech" is whooping 40 tps from ada testnet on brand new pos chain lol
Race was about product market fit and users
Its over since early 2020 lol

[Anonymous No.20256093]

>>20256001
Okay faggot I can barely understand what you are saying not because I don't understand the technical jargon you are using, but because you can't speak English. Sorry it's true you don't speak English so it's very hard for me to understand you. What I think you are trying to say is that people like paying more for outdated tech. Right? Just like people still enjoy paying £2 a minute to make international calls from public payphones instead of using whatsapp to call for free.

[Anonymous No.20256126]

>>20255901
Oh great, the same team that has failed to launch erh 2

[Anonymous No.20256147]

>>20256093
Everything he said is true, unlike the garbage you're shoveling.
>There are literally l2 dexes, payment walletsc/channels that can do 5-9k tps for 500% less fees on eth1 today
Yep. That's what i was talking about when i said
> Between zk-rollup and l2 solutions like Matic, eth 1.x can scale indefinitely.

That was in plain english, but let's be honest. language isn't the reason why you fail to understand basic technical concepts

[Anonymous No.20256197]

As a person with a big bag of Kyber this fucks them more than anything. They were really dependent on 2.0 launching like next month.

[Anonymous No.20256248]

>>20256093
>Not because I don't understand the technical jargon you are using
Thats exacly what you dont understand based retard

>eth1 pulling 150x more tps on chunky old pow chain than ada on brand new pos yet you talk about "tech"
>eth1 shitting space shaping usecases every year (2020 is year of defi right) while science poc chain locked in beefchain partnership

I can draw it to if you want?

[Anonymous No.20256271]

>>20256197
Layer 1 is not useable at all these days. Every dApp needs to start transitioning to layer 2 solutions ASAP.

[Anonymous No.20256288]

>>20256248
>I can draw it to if you want?
Yeah please.
You are right. I'm an idiot if you draw it, maybe.. just maybe I might get it

[Anonymous No.20256292]

>>20256197
Why?

[Anonymous No.20256314]

>>20256248
Also cant kyber just do rollups like snx?

[Anonymous No.20256329]

>>20253589
>>20254149
>>20255849
>>20255867
So the current runner ups for ETH killer are Cardano, Tezos, Fantom, Harmony and Loopring?

I guess ETH is fine lmao

[Anonymous No.20256397]

>>20256329
>Loopring is l2 dex on eth
And mby rest shit you mentioned is not bad investment dunno desu, price allwasys pumps most while you imagine future where this shit flips eth, real downfalls starts after mainets when everyone sees they are ghostchains (tezos, eos etc)

[Anonymous No.20256439]

>>20256288
YOU+TIME=NGMI

[Anonymous No.20256470]

>>20252489

[Anonymous No.20256472]

>>20256292
Their smart contract is pretty complex. It searches multiple DEX to find the best rate so gas fees can be like $20. For most of the pajeets trading on DEX that could be about half their stack. Really preventing adoption and will open the way for L2 solutions like Loopring to steal market share.

[Anonymous No.20256546]

>>20256472
Yeah defi is whales game now didnt thought about it this way but kyber is much more than simpel dex like loopring
Also how would phase 0 help this in any way?

[Anonymous No.20256577]

>>20253153
>he doesn't know

[Anonymous No.20256584]

>>20256546
I thought staking was supposed to increase tx speed and lower gas costs. If gas was normal the fees would be a lot more manageable. I could be wrong as ETH 2.0 could not increase tx speed at all but I thought staking alone was supposed to at least double it.

[Anonymous No.20256585]

>>20256001
Big brains in this thread. I thought /biz/ was brainlet central, glad to see otherwise.

[Anonymous No.20256598]

>>20253589
>sold a shitcoin for vaporware and a worse shitcoin. this place never fucking learns.. or is it just newfags getting raped?

[Anonymous No.20256620]

>>20254307
>if they deliver
>if it works
>if it's adopted
>if anyone likes the language
>if it doesn't get hacked
>if nothing better happens first
so many ifs anon.

[Anonymous No.20256635]

>>20254873
eth is more like a windows phone anon

[Anonymous No.20256643]

>>20256620
everyone hates solidity but they still work with it

[Anonymous No.20256645]

>>20256584
You thought wrong phase 0 is literally naked staking things you want are sc and phase 1
I really hope kyber got some l2 in pipe like snx and rest of defi gang i like Kyber..

[Anonymous No.20256651]

>>20256620
wrong, ETH 2.0 is not needed for ETH to successfully scale, as outlined here:

>>20255684
>>20255712
>>20255906
>>20256001
>>20256147
>>20256248

[Anonymous No.20256661]

>>20255028
wasn't he? didn't he get kicked off the team?

[Anonymous No.20256667]

>>20252489
Enough lies. Vitalik himself said they will push 2.0 this year ready or not.

“As such, I'm now inclined to say that the earliest practical date for genesis is something like January 3, 2021 (Bitcoin's 12th anniversary).”

Vbuterin
FWIW I personally quite disagree with this and I would favor launching phase 0 significantly before that date regardless of level of readiness :D

Eth1 took 4 months from the first multi-client testnet to launch (~end of March 2015 Olympic to end of May 2015 for eth1 launch), and I'd argue the four-month clock started ticking for us at the beginning of July when Altona launched. Eth2 phase 0 is in some ways simpler than eth1 and in some ways more complex: more complex PoS, but no complicated GPU-oriented PoW; more optimization required, but no complicated VM, etc etc. I'm inclined to say eth2 phase 0 is a little simpler on-net. Also, eth2 is not going to have any critical applications depending on it until phase 1, so the practical risks of breakage are lower (though you could argue the ecosystem as a whole is bigger). So on the whole I see no reason to take more time for the eth2 phase 0 launch cycle than we did for the eth1 launch.

https://decrypt.co/35210/ethereum-2-0-delayed-vitalik-buterin-disagrees

[Anonymous No.20256671]

>>20255173
massive tard

[Anonymous No.20256699]

>>20255173
Cardano literally uses the Ethereum Virtual Machine to run lmfao. cope harder neckbeard shills

[Anonymous No.20256707]

>>20256667
We know, but it really does not matter is it november or january its jus ttimeframe for next eth shitcoins to make more bagholders thats all

[Anonymous No.20256738]

>>20256651
>it doesn't need to scale because users don't want to change usage pattern
that's complete conjecture, and what it needs to scale is faster finality and pruning of all the 2017 ICO bloat. A new network is needed. Uniswap is already taking it down just like the cats did.

[Anonymous No.20256769]

>>20256667
>push 2.0 this year ready or not.
ok then fuck it.. this is not how u build financial platforms. Eth will probably fall apart. Cardano might work in 5 years, but for now we have Harmony. It should get us thru the defi pump over next few years while eth is lumbering around.

[Anonymous No.20256809]

>>20256738
Thats the endgame yes
Today uniswap v3 will be going zk rollups and we ahve 15-20x more bloat from defi than from cats and still not absolutely clogged like during cats
Not perfect
Not tragic

[Anonymous No.20256826]

>>20256769
LOL based harmony pajeet can you do shill before 12 posts next time

[Anonymous No.20256842]

>>20256620
>if they deliver
you sure you're not talking about mETH?
>if it works
try it out
https://prod.playground.plutus.iohkdev.io/
https://testnets.cardano.org/en/marlowe/getting-started/using-the-marlowe-playground/
>if it's adopted
Nasdaq: Cardano Developer IOHK Launches $20M Fund for Ecosystem Startups
https://www.nasdaq.com/articles/cardano-developer-iohk-launches-%2420m-fund-for-ecosystem-startups-2020-07-03
>if anyone likes the language
Allston Trading - a premier high frequency market maker in over 40 financial exchanges, in 20 countries, and in nearly every conceivable product class. Allston makes some use of Haskell for their trading infrastructure.
Bank of America Merril Lynch
Barclays Capital Quantitative Analytics Group
Deutsche Bank Equity Proprietary Trading, Directional Credit Trading
Facebook
Google
Intel
Microsoft
NVIDIA
Qualcomm
>if it doesn't get hacked
formal methods, quick check, functional language with a god of that language on the team. i sense you getting desperate
>if nothing better happens first
just desperate
>so many ifs anon.
not really. that's just you COPING

[Anonymous No.20256844]

>>20256769
Didn't you read what he said? There's not enough risk to justify more than 3 months of testing. And if there's a disaster he could just hard fork.

[Anonymous No.20256863]

>>20256769

[Anonymous No.20257131]

>>20255126
Cool, but there's tons of projects that offer that

[Anonymous No.20257155]

>>20255345
If Cardanos not a scam, i think charles realized he was a better fit for management and connections than coding and logic. If Cardano is a scam, well you know.

[Anonymous No.20257203]

>>20256001
Sadly real truth in this post, so many ways to get high tps but it messes with user experience flow. A lot of these projects have their own required token too.

[Anonymous No.20257597]

>>20257155
Im unironically semi bullihs on cardano because guy is marketing genius, way he presents strong sides of project and hides flaws (and things they need to do 5y catch up on) is impressive, he knows his userbase (bagholders desu) and he feeds them info they want to hear like pro, fuck he makes me bullish listening to him and my only saving grace I know more about sc and this space than avrg baghodler...
>>20257203
Yeah the plague of tokens

[Anonymous No.20257808]

>>20257597
Charles sounds like a butthurt moron in his videos anon. and cardamom has been irrelevant for the past 3 years and will be again soon after the launch hype fades

[Anonymous No.20257883]

>>20253589
>Sold all my ETH
No you didn't.

[Anonymous No.20257936]

>>20252583
Perfect time for Cardano to be rolling out. Mainnet live July 29. First staking rewards August 18, and smart contracts before EOY.

[Anonymous No.20257941]

>>20257597
>18 posts of cope

[Anonymous No.20257975]

>>20253076
Despite what the fudders utter, smart contracts have been in development for 2 years, they are being rolled out on the test net soon and will be on the main net before the end of the year. Yes, Cardano will be what Ethereum needs to be, but Cardano will be it before the end of 2020.

[Anonymous No.20258067]

>>20254261
Because they’ve been in development for over 2 years already. They had teams working in parallel and everything is clicking. The only reason that they didn’t roll out the smart contract testing earlier is that it relies on Shelley. Shelley goes live end of this month and smart contract testing will begin. They haven’t been dicking around. They have some of the people who created Haskell working on Plutus. By the end of 2020, Cardano is going to already be what Eth2.0 is trying to become.

[Anonymous No.20258085]

>>20256620
We invest on ifs. If you wait until there are no “ifs” you’ve missed the train and gain.

[Anonymous No.20258117]

>>20252489
tfw BSV genesis occurred in feb 2020 right on schedule and eth still waiting on their genesis
i'd slit my wrists if i was an eth head

[Anonymous No.20258130]

>>20254940

[Anonymous No.20258215]

>>20258067
Ok so given what anon said that brand loyalty trumps tps as seen with many chains being ghost towns let’s think about this hypothetically. Cardano is fully functioning EOY and getting everything rolling. Ethereum gets a whip to the ass because of this and ramps up development and delivers on their January date. Now if I’m a dapp developer, issuing a new dapp or trying to optimize my established dapp, why would I jump to cardano if they only have a few month lead time in development? Surely Reddit’s integration of ethereum wallets and the huge adoption of ethereum more than makes up for the wait. My take is that coming to market earlier will only lead to DeFi scalpers and the sharks abusing the protocol to its max potential before Eth catches up. Normies are barely waking up to Eth.

[Anonymous No.20258419]

>>20258215
Very possible. I’m not a Cardano “maximalist”. I own ETH too. I admit that Ethereum for sure has first mover advantage and Cardano has its work cut out for it. I’m just trying to counter fudders on the tech angle. I think they deliver on their promises and hit their milestones in the rollout plan. I think the tech will be delivered and will be superior to Ethereum 1.0.

Now, you make valid points regarding adoption. One thing Cardano is doing is funding $20 million for dapps development with a good us on defi. You are right, it could attract bad actors, but I don’t think they will be funding those sorts. They’ve also made it easy for other projects to port to Cardano. Hopefully, we can get some of the early developers to sing some praises if warranted and maybe this brings in more developers. I also think they are trying to go the Apple route and lure some really top tier developers in fintech to try to raise the level. Will they be successful? I don’t know, but they have a shot. I think there’s a window for them to prove their worth and they could potentially take a bit of market share from Ethereum.

At the end of the day, there isn’t going to be only one settlement chain. I don’t think there’s an Ethereum killer or needs to be one. I think multiple chains will find their domains and niches.

[Anonymous No.20258452]

Imagine arguing over which settlement layer will win when you can just bet on the middleware solution that will service the winner no matter what.

[Anonymous No.20258474]

>>20258452
Already did that with LINK. But I’m putting money on settlement layers too.

[Anonymous No.20258519]

>>20254167
imagine not knowing this project.
>Solana and Chainlink Team Up To Build A Crazy Fast Oracle
>59,490 TPS
>CEO developed the OS for Qualcomm
>Entire team has credentials that rival NASA
>POH
>Quietly working in silence

I legit don't even have a bag yet.

[Anonymous No.20258535]

>>20258519
Its like some of you guys hate free money.

[Anonymous No.20258544]

>>20252583
jew jitsu

ftfy

[Anonymous No.20258559]

>>20258535

[Anonymous No.20258842]

>>20255214
>Charles Hoskinson
the cofounder of eth is founder of ada

[Anonymous No.20258990]

>>20256842
>Allston Trading - a premier high frequency market maker in over 40 financial exchanges, in 20 countries, and in nearly every conceivable product class. Allston makes some use of Haskell for their trading infrastructure.
>Bank of America Merril Lynch
>Barclays Capital Quantitative Analytics Group
>Deutsche Bank Equity Proprietary Trading, Directional Credit Trading
>Facebook
>Google
>Intel
>Microsoft
>NVIDIA
>Qualcomm
citation needed

[Anonymous No.20259040]

>>20254873
Cardano is transcendent telecommunication crystals

[Anonymous No.20259070]

>>20252489
Let me make this absolutely crystal clear for mETHheads:

ETH 2.0 IS NOT GOING TO SAVE THIS SINKING SHIP. IT WILL BE DELAYED OVER AND OVER AND OVER AGAIN AND ETH WILL LOSE ITS FIRST MOVER ADVANTAGE DECISIVELY.

DEVS ARE LAZY (MUH HOLIDAYS) AND INCOMPETENT. "DELAY" HAS BEEN THE NAME OF THE GAME FOR FAR TOO LONG AND PEOPLE ARE SICK OF IT.

OUT OF THE TOP 10 IN 2021.

[Anonymous No.20259096]

>>20258419
This guy gets it. The competition is good for both Ethereum and Cardano, and blockchain overall. I am heavy into both. I see more upside to ADA though, but only because they're the more recent entrant.

[Anonymous No.20259966]

>>20258519
big problem i see is circulating supply its 16,554,262 / 488,630,611

[Anonymous No.20260168]

>>20256738
You're fucking retarded if you think "it doesn't need to scale because users don't want to change usage pattern" sums up what I was saying in my posts outlined above.

I was not saying that ETH doesn't need to scale; it does. I was saying that ETH 1.x can scale indefinitely thanks for ZK-rollup and L2 solutions, and that while ETH 2.0 is a better protocol, it is comparable to IPv6 in the IPv4 vs IPv6 debate; Yes, IPv6 is a better protocol, but IPv4 works just fine.

[Anonymous No.20260206]

>>20252489
>Ethereum is pretty much broken right now but as soon as we can get more funding we will be able to patch up the flaws and proceed with ETH 2.0
what did Vitalik mean by this?

[Anonymous No.20260663]

>>20252489
Big surprise!
Good thing I got $120K in this shit.
I'm kind of crazy, but I honestly don't see any competitor to ETH atm, don't see anyone with the same adoption and developer community.

Oh yeah, I actually do have some FTM ($15K), DAG ($2K), EOS($1.5K and HBAR($400).
But all their communities are still small and gay.

[Anonymous No.20260946]

>>20252547
clown ass world brah

[Anonymous No.20261996]

Just bought more ETH cope

[Anonymous No.20262012]

>>20261996
based

[Anonymous No.20262052]

you faggots don’t get it. eth 2.0 will be good for a little pump but it isn’t necessary in the slightest. even if it never goes live ethereum will continue to accrue value and dominate smart contract platforms. EIP1559 is unironically more important

[Anonymous No.20262123]

>>20254077
Look into NXS. Underrated ETH competitor.

No premine, no ICO. Currently processing from 5k to 45k contracts per second. Build API driven DApps. Can stake too. One of the best wallets. Mobile wallet being released soon too which will act as a node, not just a place to store funds.

[Anonymous No.20262344]

>>20252489
10kUSD

[Anonymous No.20262419]

>>20254649
Blackberry lost adoption because they lost users to iPhone, not because they lost app developers to iPhone.

[Anonymous No.20263376]

>>20262052
cope

[Anonymous No.20263384]

>>20260168

[Anonymous No.20263400]

>>20258990

[Anonymous No.20263410]

>>20258990
amgen

[Anonymous No.20263422]

>>20258990
AT&T

[Anonymous No.20263437]

>>20258990
BofA

[Anonymous No.20263439]

>>20252489
I'm more interested in what FUND is doing and I say that as a 40+ ETH holder

[Anonymous No.20263445]

>>20258990
Credit Suisse

[Anonymous No.20263455]

>>20258990
DB

[Anonymous No.20263464]

>>20258990
E

[Anonymous No.20263491]

>>20258990
hmm

[Anonymous No.20263504]

>>20258990
cuckbook

[Anonymous No.20263514]

>>20258990
intel

[Anonymous No.20263525]

>>20258990
microsoft

[Anonymous No.20263536]

>>20258990
NVIDIA

[Anonymous No.20263547]

>>20258990
qualcomm

[Anonymous No.20263555]

>>20258990
siemens

[Anonymous No.20263570]

>>20258990

[Anonymous No.20263668]

Dfinity is going to take over at this point desu, I know i'm going to switch if 2.0 wouldn't be near Dfinity release and be at least equal in quality.

[Anonymous No.20263692]

>>20263400
>>20263410
>>20263422
>>20263437
>>20263445
>>20263455
>>20263464
>>20263504
>>20263514
>>20263525
>>20263536
>>20263547
>>20263555
>>20263570
is this what autism looks like

[Anonymous No.20263871]

Why do retarded speculators get so caremad about delays?

[Anonymous No.20263989]

>>20252489
Many other ETH 2.0 do not agree with this and say they are aiming for 2020.

But even if it somehow does end up being January 3, I know it's technically '2021' but really it's just the same as 2020 + 3 days so WHAT THE FUCK ARE WE TALKING ABOUT HERE JESUS CHRIST.

[Anonymous No.20264038]

they are waiting for DFOhub 1.0, which will be the flagship enterprise of ETH 2.0

[Anonymous No.20264048]

I'm sorry but "Thanksgiving holidays"?
Isn't that one day? Even so he should have just not cited the reasons. Makes them look lazy

[Anonymous No.20264082]

>>20263989
>just 2020 + 3 days
Cope more eth faggot

[Anonymous No.20264445]

>>20257936
The only thing that will ever moon with ADA is the number of genders on the team. Total tranny coin.

[Anonymous No.20264457]

>>20252489
Eth is a fucking joke. Disgusting fucking pieces of shit scammers.