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WHAT THE FUCK WAS THAT!

>> No.20096987
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>>20096021
CZ is absolutely seething right now

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>>20096021
The sleeping giant is finally waking up, get in or stay poor niggers.

>> No.20097334

how many masternodes to make it?

>> No.20097395

>>20096021
I'll pump it a little bit. Buying my masternode. Probably won't do much. Please say thank you though.

>> No.20097405

>>20097334
literally just one because it'll net you about $1,200 daily (if trading volume is $1B), but get at least two to be on the safe side

>> No.20097458

>>20097395
honestly didn't need you at all anon but welcome aboard. you should be glad to add another revenue stream in your life

>> No.20098213

>>20097405
Only have two, might buy more.
can't wait for the raiden integration

>> No.20098286

>>20096021
I’m a poorfag who only has $5K total in crypto. I moved a little over 1 ETH into it when it was around $0.08. What’s a reasonable profit expectation? It’s one of the only crypto projects outside of PNK, DMG, and LINK I legitimately think could be huge.

>> No.20098358

>>20098286
I joined the crypto party in november 2017. Got burnt really fucking hard and even managed to lose (relatively) big in 2019 aswell. I told myself that I will never buy a coin anymore when it goes parabolic. XSN just went extremely parabolic. I would never buy at those prices. But I had to. It might happen that we correct down and then wait for raiden. What also could happen very likely is that we go up and up and up and suddenly only millionairs can afford masternodes. I just had to get in. Losing $1k is way better than missing out on a huuuuge run and receiving revenue for masternodes.

I don't have a specific number. Sorry.

>> No.20098418

>>20098286
Just because you are a poor fag now doesn’t mean you always have to be. I started off with $1000 invested into bitcoin in early 2017. I soon learned about shitcoins and the massive potential gains they can get and started trading them. Turned $1k into over $500k that has been cashed out and still have a load left in the game now. XSN is my biggest bag because the upside potential of it is absolutely massive and it just needs that one spark to send it to the moon. So don’t fret over only having $5k in the game as you can easily turn that into $50k or more then ride the next wave into the millions. I had one shitcoin that I put $4k into and in 13 days it was worth $230k so yeah shitcoins is where it is at if you want the fuck you money gains, if I left it all in BTC and cashed out at peak I would have only had $20k

>> No.20098452

>>20098358
I expect it to correct downwards back to around 0.10-0.12. That’s fine. I’m looking for a long term hold. I only managed to make out slightly above breaking even on Uniswap shitcoins. The ones that haven’t fucked me are PNK, BUIDL, and FMA. I think it’s reasonable XSN will be a big deal in the long run. I don’t pretend to be a genius about crypto or the tech behind it, but the DEX seems like a pretty big fucking deal unless my brain is just trying to convince me it is to justify putting money into it. I look at it the same way - if I lose 1 ETH, so be it. It won’t be because it was a pump and dump like a ton of ERC20 tokens. I am not like a ton of other people here who talk about making it and being multimillionaires. That doesn’t interest me as much as some. I’m content taking humble profits of a few thousand at a time. I’m a frugal motherfucker who wouldn’t quit working even if I did become a millionaire tomorrow. Honestly, I’m just looking to make a bit extra on top of normal income to pay off the small amount of student loans I have and start funneling money into retirement plans.

>> No.20098586

lads how much is a masternode 15k xsn?

>> No.20098613

>>20098452
That was the most normal answer I've ever seen on here. You're right it'll probably correct to 0.10 or whatever. But if it doesn't...I'll have missed the train because I won't drop 10k on a masternode. I HAVE to buy now. And if it does drop to 0.10 I'll probably lose around 4-5 ETH. But that risk is infinitely smaller than not going in and watching this go to the moon.

>> No.20098634

>>20098586
Yah 15k

>> No.20098663

>>20098634
ugh halfway there diiiiip please!!!

>> No.20098691

>>20098634
thanks bro

>> No.20098934

>>20098613
Look at the chart. Do you really think it will dip to 0.10 again? I doubt it.

>> No.20099069

>>20098613
I never understood the mentality of people here.

>go all in don’t diversify at all or you won’t make it

Maybe I don’t want to go all in on a hope of making millions. It’s essentially fancy gambling at that point. I don’t get it. I understand you can’t diversify crypto as much as other investments. But why go all in on fucking pump and dumps hoping to make a quick buck? I invest slowly and methodically.

>> No.20099155

>>20099069
Are you saying I'm having the "mentality of people here"?

>> No.20099604

>>20099155
Nah, man, that wasn’t directed at you. I’m talking about most people buying crypto that I see.

>> No.20099622

>>20099604
Also, XSN doesn’t fit the bill for “pump and dump” at all. I wouldn’t put 100% of my crypto into it, but definitely I understand having a large portion of your portfolio being what you choose. I’m that way with Link.

>> No.20099724

>>20097405
Elsewhere I read that ROI on a MN is 14%. How are you calculating $1200/day?

>> No.20099736

>>20098358
thank you for your service anon, you almost learned from your mistaked but keep funding us time and time again

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>>20099724
Future gains from DEX fees, and that's without the 14% from block rewards.

>> No.20100082

>>20100036
What would the dex fees be if the price is, let's say, 50c and has an appropriate volume? It is all good to think about in a few years, but what sort of returns could I expect in the meantime?

>> No.20100089

>>20100082
*gains from dex fees*

>> No.20100442

Masternode would be worth 7500$, so you would get your 87.5 usd/month paid daily afaik

Dex reward should be like 1.25$ daily per million usd/daily volume provided that the fee is 0.25% and theres 2000 masternodes splitting on the reward. Currently there seems to be 1900 enabled masternodes.

>> No.20100602

>>20100442
Thanks, Anon. If the price dips a bit, I might pick up a MN.

>> No.20100684

>>20098418
based

Was this during the recent bullrun or after? Also which coins

>> No.20100813

>>20098934
>Do you really think it will dip to 0.10 again?
yes because it's a shitcoin
Binance has x1000 the money to fund the development for a dex aggregator
n dumb money o sight
corona virus second wave meme
bitcoin down
xsn always goes up this time during the year to go down for the rest of the year
team is lazy as fuck
raiden is months away (no eth and erc20 tokens)

bascally you are a FOMOer buying at those prices when you can buy at 1/2

t. a guy who bought last year in july (the shillers were doing the same job on discord ''let's spam biz'') got justeed and learned the lesson.

>> No.20100828

>>20100813
>no dumb money on the sight*

>> No.20100956

>>20100813
Dirty nigger, you have to try harder than that to FUD here.

>> No.20101128

>>20100813
based.

private whale discord just going to dump look at the charts. it's like you idiots want to be parted with your money.

>> No.20101140

>>20100813
What were they shilling with last year?

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>>20101140
The exact same shit being shilled now. You should listen to that anon he's been around for a long time.

>> No.20101194

also before buying into vertical shill chart think about this

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>> No.20101243

>>20101140
>What were they shilling with last year?
XSN.. they told ''guys we are going x10''
> it pumped a lil bit to 10 cnets
> then dumped to 5 cent and was there for the rest of the year even if btc went up

There is also a screenshot which I had on the other PC of a german discord group in which a lot of them were saying:
''Guys let's upload the tread''
''let's spam biz''

I have on the old pc if some anon has that scren please post it it can save a lot of innocent newfags

I am not sayig it's a scam at all... it's the classical niche project.. some sort of ''Criptobridge'' meme thing that you can sell only to dumb retards in hype periods (which is not now)
Team is slow and Binance has a money power force x100000 compared to xsn

it's stupid to park money on it imho now

>> No.20101305

>>20101243
Gamble I'm willing to take. Time will tell if it's "stupid" or if you're "stupid".

>> No.20101317

>>20101243
>Criptobridge
You mean lightning channels?

What does it matter that binance has more money? They already have the exchange, they don't need a decentralized one.

>> No.20101403

Also forgot to say that the coin is full of bag-holders that will dump at 70 cents for sure.
This was an old coin scam POSW than turned into XSN (which on paper has nothing to do with the old team).. but this doesn't change the fact that there are a lot of bagholder ready to dump (to breack even)
Look at this chart
>>20101217
the most of the volume while con down (accumulation) to dump on you in july
it's always the same story
I am nt shilling RLC but it partned with Hawei and only biz knows this
Probably coinbase integration for RLC
It's a nice x3
So don't understand why to park money here on xsn like a stupid

>> No.20101454

Here is the post of RLC partnening with hawei
Normies will know that only at the end of july
it's a nice x3 from here
>>20100107
>>20100060

>No I gotta park money into a n obscure shitcoin which already mooned

>> No.20101470

>>20098452
Wow a non shit post on biz

>> No.20101613

>>20101194
>>20101217
>May 2019
>Sistemkoin manipulates the fuck out of XSN and makes it dump.
>XSN community asks to be delisted
>Mid 2019-early 2020
>XSN wash-traded on Coinall (owned by OKEx who is famous
>European community uses Coinall for a few months to show their support and help get XSN on OKEx
>OKEx decides to list a bunch of random top 500 alts but skips and completely ignores XSN
>European community goes back to using Livecoin because no KYC and better volume
>Coinall/OKEx start wash-trading XSN
Exchanges are shady as fuck

>> No.20101693

>>20101613
What’s the story with live coin? as in is it decent or not? I had an account from months ago when I was trying to get rid of the Minereum that showed up without me asking. Figured out I couldn’t get it out of the wallet so gave up. Months later, I just used it to buy XSN a few days ago. Is my XSN safe there? I didn’t know any wallet that supported it outside of the core wallet so my XSN is just sitting there. When it goes up and I go to sell it, am I gonna have any issues getting my Eth off Livecoin? I know there’s like a 48 hour hold on withdrawing on new accounts, but that’s not an issue for mine. I just haven’t dealt with any exchanges without KYC except Uniswap. So I didn’t know if they do any funky shit or anything.

>> No.20101978

>>20098613
just a little friendly reminder - there are some of us lurking that have tens of thousands of dollars ready to scoop up EVERYTHING if it gets that low again. You have been notified.

>> No.20102129

>>20100813
>Binance has x1000 the money to fund the development for a dex aggregator
So because someone else has tons of money this invalidates the aggregator? Where are they going to get the talent to make it happen? By that think shouldn’t they have thought of it first because they got billions
>n dumb money o sight
Types like a retard and can’t even make sense
>corona virus second wave meme
What does the second wave effect? Seems like you’re lost for fud so you throw this garage in the pile
>bitcoin down
Again what does this have to do with Stakenet? Last time I checked 1 XSN = 1 XSN
>xsn always goes up this time during the year to go down for the rest of the year
Post proof no one cares enough to validate your bs
>team is lazy as fuck
They put out a new build today 3.0.0
>raiden is months away (no eth and erc20 tokens)
The majority of volume is from BTC & LTC not scamcoin tokens
>bascally you are a FOMOer buying at those prices when you can buy at 1/2
Not with this low quality fud kek

>> No.20102165

>>20101693
You might as well make an account on Stakenet Cloud and send your XSN there for the time being so you can stake it and have a little more control over your funds.
I've been using Livecoin on and off since 2018. I've had no trouble with them, still wouldn't recommend keeping your money on there let alone any other exchange.
I take my funds off as soon as I'm done buying what I'm buying. I did the same buying on Cryptopia.

>> No.20102186

>>20101403
Hawei is a know CCP monitoring company. Hope you’re enjoying the biblical flood and covid 2.0 that was recently released to kill all you chinks and chink sympathizers

>> No.20102276

>>20102165
Yeah you’re right that’s what I need to do. I have just been lazy as shit this week and not done it.

>> No.20102454

Complete retard here, how do I get a masternode? I only ever traded shitcoins. Do you get one automatically when you hold a certain amount of XSN?

>> No.20102593

>>20102454
I got just the thing 4 u
https://stakenet.io/faq/#what_is_a_masternode

>> No.20102618

>>20102593
Thanks.

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>>20102618
When one can be honest and upfront like you, they should be helped.

>> No.20102781

>/biz/ has gotten shilled by people with upcoming projects
Well they're just hardly trying now...
/biz/ has been the place to advertise tokens/coins for some time now. We can all accept that and adapt, or we can sit here and be all pouty and resist the changes like a poor loser.

Also, CZ freaked the fuck out when he saw XSN's DEX pull liquid from Binance.
Holy hell they're really just trying to steer brainlets away so they can accumulate, aren't they?

>> No.20102793

>>20098452
>I expect it to correct downwards back to around 0.10-0.12
gonna be a long crabbing until that point
it des this everytime

>> No.20102799

>>20102454
The leanest, most efficient way?
Obtain 15k XSN + an extra 200-400 XSN for initial MN hosting fees.
Let's assume you have, say, 15.5k XSN.
>register account on XSN Cloud and setup 2fa
>Subtract 15,005 from the total balance you have on an exchange (495 XSN in this instance)
>send 495 XSN to XSN Cloud
>download Stakenet core wallet
>send the remainder (15,005) to the wallet
Follow this guide
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x9_YdU8vWrU
Do it one time and you'll never forget. It's really easy. If you navigate to the page on XSN Cloud where you setup MNaaS, you might not even need to watch the tutorial. It lays the steps out easily.

>> No.20102813

>>20102799
Are the rewards less if you use the Cloud service than doing it on your own? I currently have enough for 2 MNs but haven't decided which yet

>> No.20102824

>>20101166
No proof of that though besides Link was shilled more. Also the high in July 2019 was like 11 or 12 cents. Almost double that at this point and the floor keeps getting higher daily.

Nice FUD you XSN whale

>> No.20102854

>>20101243
The fact the Stakenet team has already worked with other crypto devs (like Litecoin) and the fact binance employees keep saying they can copy the DEX code with all their money proves XSN is gonna moon

>> No.20102870

>>20102813
Deploy the MNs right now, anon.
Do not waste time.

>> No.20102891

>>20102854
No one, I mean NO ONE that wants you not to do something but is intelligent enough to know how it could negatively affect them screams at you STOP DOING THAT.
Instead, the next cheapest move up from there is, "oh, that's already being done. don't think about that any more."

Binance will inevitably list Stakenet on their exchange, though. They will not forfeit that extra cash.

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>>20102688
checked
>>20102813
MN hosting via MNaaS is a flat 15¢/day/MN rate paid directly in XSN
There are absolutely ways to reduce MN costs if you put extra time and effort into how you host them. I know someone in the community who found 3rd party hosting for 5¢/day/MN. It's open-ended.
I had enough for a MN before MNaaS came out and I purposely held out on a TPoS contract and waited for it because I wanted to run a MN as lazily as possible. Pic related. Yesterday, I sync'd my wallet for the first time since May.

>> No.20102929

>>20102824
He made it up plan and simple. Anyone can create their own server and whip that up in under a minute.

>> No.20102956

>>20102870
I would but Livecoin won't let me withdraw for 48hrs unfortunately.

>>20102927
Oh I see. Guess I'll use the Cloud since it seems straightforward.

>> No.20103163

>>20102956
It's a convenient service. XSN Cloud e-mails you MN status notifications in the event that anything happens. Sometimes MNs need to be restarted. It's rare. You can do it directly from the wallet by clicking a button if and when it happens.
A few of my MNs have been running for over a year uninterrupted. It's trustless and runs 24/7. Worst-case scenario is the MN stops running. Otherwise, you have control of your funds at all times.
I run MNs from cold storage, technically. My core wallet lives on an SSD that I only plug in to sync and make backups with. I isolated it from my general purpose SSD for additional security.

>> No.20103185

>>20102891
They'd be dumb not to list XSN. They're going to cabe and hope enough people are binance loyalists

>> No.20103285

>>20103163
Oh shit...
Hopefully my brain gets this big one day.

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I was in a few threads yesterday about this. Looks like it hasn't dumped(hard) and I'm slowly gonna get priced out. I'm a newfag who made gains with STA. I am fine with hodling for a year or so, but this shit seems so complicated.

I was reading about the price, it says it can continually mint xsn, so the price won't shoot up that much? Also, when downloading and installing the wallet, do you follow the video for the 1.0.13 version, even though the wallet is .20..... That kinda put me off. I'm fine with a bit of code, but I mean, knowing I sent like 5k to the matrix somewhere and it's lost forever kinda scares me, especially when this would be the largest ever amount of money I have transferred lol.

Also few other questions. I googled it and other shit came up like Blocknet and a few other things, all of which I assume are dexes which use some fancy tech.... So, why XSN over anything else? I hope this is like the early link days and not a scam

>> No.20103447

>>20103402
It will inflate to scale BTC, but that mainly depends on adoption, which will be counter balanced by the absurdly valuable MNs.

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>>20103402
I remember you.
To answer your first question, yes. You can stake XSN and do whatever you'd like with your staking rewards.
Solid point about the video. The process is exactly the same as it was back then, but there have been many new builds of the core wallet since.
If you have any questions at all, don't hesitate to ask. You can also get in direct contact with the devs on discord. They're doing an open beta test for the DEX tomorrow, if you're interested.
Blocknet is a respectable project that has been around for some time. It's a layer 1 DEX that does atomic swaps and a relatively tiny circulating supply. It goes it's own way in many regards.
Stakenet is a layer 2 DEX that does atomic swaps on Lightning Network, or off-chain, to expedite tx times from on-chain speeds. Stakenet is using layer 2 as the basis for establishing interoperability between and coin on LN and ETH's Raiden.

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>>20103402
this post below sums XSN up nicely..
THREADLY REMINDER
>LN was poorly implemented
I don't see how Lightning will take off beyond a hobbyist phase without massively centralized interests getting involved.
>Stakenet designed an ecosystem that takes what Bitcoin implemented for LN and makes extraordinarily powerful use of it
Stakenet's solution is notable for embedding LN nodes into masternodes so the LN nodes have access to all the collateral locked in the MNs (quasi-centralized liquidity pool within a purely decentralized network). The nodes will be running 24/7 in the background atop all that liquidity to rout payments and should take very little maintenance to keep up.

It could very well solve multiple problems in the industry by meshing the gears of many underutilized together.

Lightning?
>Lack of liquidity. Not profitable enough at the individual level.
Staking?
>Inflationary. Sometimes to an extreme. Underutilized use-case outside of securing the integrity of the network.
DEXs?
>Low liquidity, low volume, paper-thin orderbooks, AND difficult to access for 99.9x% of the world.
Atomic swaps?
>A big win for DEXs but still potentially very slow depending on which coins are being swapped.
Masternodes?
>Like so many staking coins, what do they do other than secure the integrity of the network and inflate the circulating supply?

Using m a s t e r n o d e s and the collateral locked within them to power L i g h t n i n g A t o m i c S w a p s which serve as the infrastructure for what could very well become the speediest and most liquid D E X in the industry and using a conservative inflationary supply to gradually produce more m a s t e r n o d e s which, in a way, provide an opening to expand the exchange with additional servers so it doesn't hit a bottleneck. It's both genius and shocking that no one in crypto seems to even know that it exists.

>> No.20103670

>>20103566
>>20103585

>all the shit you said

Where to learn what that shit actually means/does. Fuck. Me. Thanks for the responses though, much appreciated. Also I keep getting green id's in xsn threads.... Kek wills it.

>> No.20103733

>>20103585
>It's both genius and shocking that no one in crypto seems to even know that it exist
oh they will very soon once it pops to one dollar. one thing I wonder about is the cost of future masternodes. at $1 that's $15,000 for one masternode which is out of reach for most people. XSN should blow past $1 THIS YEAR

>> No.20103921

>>20103670
Best of luck to you, anon. I hope your point of entry into XSN is graceful.
>>20103733
Checked. XSN would only need a $100 million mcap to hit $1 and I'd say 99% of crypto has no idea what it is yet. Good odds.

>> No.20103973

HELLO GUYS

Bought back in again

I had 7000

I tried to swing thinking it wouldda have gone to 10 cent

but this shit seems to have find a solid support at 18 cent... it just doesn't want go down.

Obv it's not a pump and dump (otherwise they would have already dumped)

I couldn't risk to miss a x3

I am poor and not have so much liquidity this is why I can't get a Masternode... but at least 5k is better then nothing...

I am not completly priced out

when this thing hits 10 usd I can have 5k per year just doing nothing (staking)

It isn't so much.. but at least I am not totally priced out

it's a form of income for doing nothing

OBV Masternode = Master race but I don't want to sell part of my Linkies

>> No.20104062

>>20103973
>poor
>has LINK
Idk anon LINK has done very well.
Plan your moves wisely.

>> No.20104088

>>20104062
>Plan your moves wisely.
how?
I have only 10k link

>> No.20104129

>>20104088
Checked. That's pretty good anon.
You did what you could with what you had and for it, you have a 10k link stack that has a good future to it.

>> No.20104154

>>20104129
and XSN?
I want a Masternode
I know you can't donate a Masternode to me
but at least gimme one patern advice:
when to swing in order to x2 my XSN stack?

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>> No.20104167

>>20103973
the play right now should be to tell 20-25% of your Linkies for Stakies (XSN). you won't get the same percentage increases with Link anymore that you will with XSN, plus XSN has the potential to reach Link's price point

>> No.20104176

>>20103973

did you read anything in this thread? shillchart whale discord shady volume before pump.

look maybe this isn't a scam coin but it's sus and why would you buy in right now after pump?

masternode fomo?

>> No.20104195

>>20104176
the volume was fake during that time
real volume was less than 1 btc per day.

>2020
>trusting crypto volume numbers

>> No.20104230

>>20104176
this isn't a pump and dump though. once the DEX was open to the public for testing and more people have been using it, there's been a steady rising price floor. We're going to be on a steady rise until the final release is launched and then a moonshot

>> No.20104244

>>20104154
I can't say, anon. I've never once sold XSN.

>> No.20104270

>>20104176
>shady volume before pump
could you explain what do you mean with this please?

>> No.20104277

>>20104195
>the volume was fake during that time
>real volume was less than 1 btc per day.
this is eason to believe that whales were washtrading in order to dump now?

>> No.20104279

>>20104230
so how much can xsn go up? the top 100 on CMC would be a 2,5 from here

>> No.20104281

>>20104277
>eason
reason

>> No.20104341

>>20104279
It keeps breaking resistance. It could very well hit $1 and quickly if it keeps up this unbridled acceleration.

>> No.20104366

>>20104341
>It could very well hit $1
it will

>> No.20104415

>>20104277
yuh

>> No.20104434

>>20104341
easy $10

XSN is a game changer

>> No.20104504

>>20104277
No signs of it though or else we wouldn't be going up now

>> No.20104535

>>20104434
>XSN is a game changer
only if they implement Raiden

>> No.20104542

>>20104504
what was all that volume at low prices before this pump? I am talking about 2019

>> No.20104551

>>20104535
>only if they implement Raiden
better buying in now because the new floar is 18 cents and unless a second crash in stock or crypto it won't go down to 10 cents

>> No.20104554

>>20104551
already got 2 MNs, might buy a few more

>> No.20104643

>>20104542
see >>20101613

>> No.20104713

>>20098452
Get your negative energy out of here. We’re going straight to $0.30+

>> No.20104806

ATTENTION - Fudders trying to say this is a pump and dump.

Well there is an easy way to verify if this is true. Are MN numbers going up or down? If they are going down then that means MNs are being broken and most likely sold.

Guess what MN numbers are increasing which mean they aren’t being broken and sold off.

Same with staking, amount of XSN staking is increasing again suggesting more of it is being put away vs sent to exchanges to sell

>> No.20104863

I have a question guys.. If I set up a MN via MNaaS, am I stuck to run the MN for x amount of time or can I stop running it at any time?

>> No.20104928

>>20104643
sorry does it mean it has been washtraded
so is it bearish?

>> No.20104985

>>20104863
Can cancel it any time you want

>> No.20104987

>>20104863
You can stop running at any time.
It's a trustless contract wherein you can start or stop running one whenever you want on the condition that you have enough XSN in your wallet to cover the MN hosting fees. If your Cloud wallet runs out of XSN, then the MN will expire and you will have to re-activate it again.

>> No.20105021

buy pamp retards

>> No.20105076

>>20104928
OKEx is well-known for wash-trading coins on their exchanges. At this point in time, there is barely any XSN left for sale on Coinall anymore. I don't think they have nearly so much pull.

>> No.20105180

>>20103402

There is a lot of "fake DEX" like IDEX, binance DEX, cryptobridge, etc..

Blocknet is another TRUE DEX, jus for that they deserve a bit of respect but there is a lot of downside to their DEX.
1. You need to download every blockchain of the coins you want to trade.
2. There is no agregator meaning no liquidity.
3. Their DEX is working with atomic swaps. Which takes time up to 10 minutes to make a trade.

Stakenet DEX solve all thoses issue and bring you the First True DEX that can compete with CEX (Centralized Exchanges)

Because
1.
thanks to vortex agregator they can pull liquidity directly from any other CEX (binance, bitttrex, bitfinex, kraken, huobi, etc..) so lo liquidity problems.
2.
The DEX works with lightning network making the swaps instant like in a CEX. This allows to be 100% CEX competitive and will allow to incorpore complexe tools like margin trading, etc.. to the DEX.
Basically LTC, BTC, ETH, all erc20, USDT, DAI, XSN and other lightning compatibe coins will be available with instant swaps.

For coins like monero, kmd or any other coin that does not support lightning they will implement atomic swaps which will take a little longer to complete orders but will at least still give you the option for you to get them from stakenet DEX.

Basically this is the first true DEX which is CEX competitive and what people have waited for so long is finally here and already in open beta free for anyone that want to try it to do so.

Trading experience will soon be as good as bittrex, binance or any other CEX wile you keep 100% control of your keys and stay 100% anonymous.

>> No.20105412

I put my 3k Stakies in my cloud wallet yesterday amd I haven't recieved any stake rewards. Am i doing sth wrong?

>> No.20105418

>>20105412
Takes around 24 hours before they start dropping in

>> No.20105431

>>20105412
I think they need to be in the wallet for 24 hours to be eligiable for staking rewards

>> No.20105436

>>20105431
Thanks bros

>> No.20105452

>>20105418
stakenetcloud.io is the website to stake them?

>> No.20105552

>>20105452
Yeah just click on products and then cloud

>> No.20105603

>>20105555
nice

>> No.20105613

can I run masternodes on a raspberry pi?

>> No.20105636

I know you guys are gonna tell me DYOR but can you point me what the master nod are doing?

>> No.20105679

Isn't XSN no more on Coinall guys?
I can't find it there

>> No.20105683

>>20105679
Because no one is selling

>> No.20105693

>>20105679
It's there. There's about 8k for sale up to 4k sat on their books right now.

>> No.20105705

>>20105636
>>20105636
Of course

What do XSN Masternodes do?

XSN Masternodes are aimed to be one of the most powerful stations in crypto. They will earn a passive income based on everything they will do:
· They will host and run XSN Dex.
· They will host all blockchains needed to keep XSN Dex decentralized and making sure users can perform swaps without needing to download entire blockchains.
· They will handle Lightning Swaps (Lightning Network Cross-Chain Atomic Swaps).
· They will facilitate instant and private on-chain transactions.
· They will host dApps.
· They will host Lightning Channels.
· They will use their Masternode collateral to provide Lightning Network (and XSN Dex) liquidity.
While developers are working towards all of this, it is only the first steps of what XSN Masternodes will be capable of.

>> No.20105727

>>20105452
No stakenetcloud.net doesn’t seem like the right domain for the actual cloud site so please double check that it is the right one and not some clone site

>> No.20105747

>>20105452
>>20105727
It's https://cloud.stakenet.io/

Or you can google "xsn clouse"

Or go to stakenet.io and click cloud.

>> No.20105767
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BEHOLD THE VORTEX AGGREGATOR IN ACTION + THE LIGHT WALLET / DEX

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/374568694690611204/727569384851243058/Stakenet_DEX_-_Binance_CEX_-_Vortex_Aggregator.mp4

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>>20105767
>tfw all centralized exchanges will be reduced to liquidity pools for XSN's Chad dex

>> No.20105834

>>20105767


>>20105806
BASED

Stakies can reach 100$ easly. 1000$-10000$ if it reaches full potential (top 3 marketcap)

>> No.20105905

>>20105705
Tnx anon for your work :).
Think if i join the discors they will sell me in otc?

>> No.20105910

>>20105905
most likely not. there is no point in it anyway, you won't need kyc for livecoin

>> No.20105941

>>20105905
You most likely risk to be scam if you ask for OTC deals. Some sharks try to impersonate team members

>> No.20105987

>>20105693
>It's there
spot account?
Only paired with eth?

>> No.20106014

>>20105613
https://github.com/hermesesus/XSN-pi/wiki
don't know if pi is the best choice unless you never lose power or something

>> No.20106039

>>20105987
only use BTC-XSN

https://www.livecoin.net/fr/trading/XSN_BTC

>> No.20106058

>>20105767
what does the GBP in the video stand for anyway. Why's he converting the btc into good boy points

>> No.20106073

>>20106058
GBP is £ british currency

>> No.20106115
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20106115

Seeing is believing, right? Join the Discord and test it for yourself!

cyF5yCA

>> No.20106167

>>20105180

> Basically this is the first true DEX which is CEX competitive and what people have waited for so long is finally here and already in open beta free for anyone that want to try it to do so.

Best concise reason I have seen yet.

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>>20106167

>> No.20107009

getting the best buy and sell price across all Cex?

How cool is that.

XSN Liquidity Pool idea is so lit

>> No.20107057

If one of the major selling points of this, is that the master nodes keep growing so the dex is stronger. then why would the price per xsn go more than say a dollar? how are master nodes going to keep popping up with the price being $20+ etc etc. maybe it's all going over my head, but how is that going to work.

>> No.20107153

>>20107057
Price of XSN will reach equilibrium to the potential earning capacity of a MN. If a MN earns $1000 per day in fees then it will be a wise financial move to buy up all XSN under this calculation.

>> No.20107168

>>20107057
we don't need to have further MN popping up. It's just that every MN holder will become a chad. Stakenet will grow due to its superior products like the dex, ccpos, epos

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>>20102929
How desperate are you? Join the server and see it for yourself.

>> No.20107767
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20107767

We are going to leave humanity behind any second now.

>> No.20107859

>>20107767
please no, I need more ;_;

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>>20107859
Anything under 0.5$ is a fucking steal anon don't get too greedy or you'll be left behind.

>> No.20108253

>>20107767
XSN has the most bullish chart right now. Fucking beautiful

>> No.20108293

>>20107767
Holy shieet

>> No.20108328
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20108328

I really think this is one of the best purchases I’ve made since I got into crypto. For so many years I was just a fucking brainlet buying Eth, BTC, and Link. Maybe this will actually yield more than small gains. I don’t know. Am I crazy or just wishfully thinking biz? Doesn’t this feel organic and better than most coins?

>> No.20108373

>>20108328
This would have been like buying link in March/April 2019 right before it blew up.

Exploding chart is imminent. All aboard who want to make it! Just need 15k XSN which is a little of $3k right now

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Levels of comfy are out of this world. My precious.

>> No.20108558
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>> No.20108702
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20108702

I love waking up seeing a booming xsn threads and green candles :)

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20108989

I’m in the DEX test group right now shit is legit, have done at least 200 trades over the last few hours with no issues at all and then they go and drop this bomb on us. The entire time we were trading against their aggregator tech that was doing trades in Binance and Livecoin at the same time.

Mind is fucking blow no doubt in my mind now this is the next big thing in crypto

>pic related

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>>20108989
saw that too, I am so hype dawg. I'm filling some trades soon and gonna set up tPos on top of MN block rewards to speed up the process of funding a 2nd MN.

>> No.20109117

>>20108989
Holy
Fucking
Shit

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>>20107675
ahahah they already removed the biz-army. less than 24 hours after i posted about it here

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Uhm. I feel like I should buy some of this, but having only used metamask I feel like I'm in for some serious shit. What's a segwit lmao. God I love /biz/

>> No.20109262

I wouldn't touch this buggy mess with a 10-foot pole.

https://github.com/X9Developers/XSN/blob/master/src/masternode.cpp

>> No.20109442

>>20108989
>>20109117
>>20109051
I'm a brainlet.
Please explain what this means to me.

Also, if >>20109051 could explain more about what they mean, I'd be very grateful.

>> No.20109611

>>20109442
There is a live test of the open beta DEX happening right now in discord.

Basically the DEX testers discovered that they were selling and buying XSN directly from livecoin thanks to the DEX agregator. That allows to have a very big liquidity for any coin added.

>> No.20109651

>>20109133
no faggot, they just removed the word "army" it's still there.

>FUD getting real weak

is that you Tolstoy? Kek

>> No.20109664

>>20109651
yes, because army looked horrible if anything i did you a favor retard. you're welcome

now please go get access to the whales channel and dump this shit

>> No.20109671

>>20108989
That’s cool as shit wow

>> No.20109739

s o why the FUCK am i only showing ~$342 worth of XSN when i swapped $550 worth of ETH over on livecoin?

>and what is a masternode, why do i need one, and how do i get one?

>> No.20109753

>>20109739
Because you bought with ETH most likely. 99% of the trades are through BTC so use it instead

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>>20109664
LOLOLOLOLOL is that really you??


Honestly, I thought you were so fucking stupid that you wouldn’t even be able to speak in coherent English. Must have a translator. I’m truly perplexed you can even navigate this website, so props to you for trying to fud.

Suicide is not the answer man. If you need help talk to someone.

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20109812

>>20109739
Acquire 15000 XSN coins

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>>20109739
>swapped $550 worth of ETH
You swapped it to BTC then to XSN right?

>> No.20109842

>>20109782
having a rough day anon? didn't realize pointing out the obvious would hurt you so badly. seek help before it's too late

>> No.20109853

>>20109753
>>20109812
got it. thanks for the info

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>>20109842
Last time I checked I didn’t sell at the absolute bottom m8 KEK

>> No.20110052

>>20110009
I love how this is the only thing you or anyone else can say like this somehow hurts me. You were so afraid of the truth you had to make up this post
>>20102929

Feel better anon I'm worried about you.

>> No.20110078

>>20110052
Wow what good guy.. I was wrong about you. Thanks anon you’re the best at being the worst, kinda like wookie

>> No.20110622

>>20109664
>sold at 750 sat
>can't accept that it was the worst move possible
>no, it's everyone else's fault
>no, it's a scam
>posts cropped discord screenshots and garbage fud
lmao

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don't give attention to low effort fud only fud with effort put into it.

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>>20109664
I'm in the whales group and I'm never selling nigger, COPE.

>> No.20110809

>>20110078
>>20110622
>>20110658
>>20110736
>I'm in the whales group
Now we know where these coordinated posts are coming from. Keep it up guys you're going to make it.

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this article was the one that made fomo into XSN....LAST JULY LMFAO took a year for /biz/ to catch on

>> No.20110895

>>20110838
See, what you do is you take rewards and use the swap feature to give you something like Ampleforth, some actual stablecoin or something that has a balancer like STA or one of its variants to mitigate risk.
I think just getting more XSN to try to get up to the next MN is also a good play.

I'll have to play around with it a bit to really get a good idea of what my process is going to look like either way.

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>Introducing ETHEREUM Vortex
>Jul 3, 2020
>big industry players blatantly and shamelessly rip-off another idea from XSN
kek
XSN is truly the final redpill

>> No.20110978

I remember buying pose for 8c and seeing it go to 24c only to go back down to 6c, I barely made it out with 10% profit. Anyway, xsn looks solid but I won't be buying until a real correction, even if its at a higher price. Good luck, I'll become one of you hopefully within a month.
Also, if livecoin the only exchange this thing is on? I haven't checked in a few weeks but that's the only one I recognize.

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>>20110895
yeah i'm going for the get enough XSN for another MN play because I believe that XSN is less of a risk than stablecoins anyway. Once the tech reaches wider number of users further along in development and uninvented dApps are developed, not even mentioning DEX. Masternodes are going to become absolute money printing machines. Plus they have the responsibility of governance and voting on proposals.

>> No.20111036

>>20110978
A real correction. You do realize it’s been at its atl for months. You had a chance. It’s get in or stay out time

>> No.20111076

>>20110978
We're already establishing a baseline, anon.
You likely wont' see it under 2k sats ever again.

>> No.20111145

>>20096021
It’s been holding up amazingly the last few daya

>> No.20111522

>>20111145
What's more remarkable is that there's, at most, 2-3 MNs worth of XSN holding back the price from breaking another resistance line in BTC.
If it breaks that line, the next ceiling is 5k sat.

>> No.20111633

>>20110920
This is great to see. Xsn is setting the standard which means it'll be the default DeFi exchange so long as the devs make the right updates. Considering they did so in the bear market and helped other cryptos like litecoin, it bodes very well

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>>20110920
>check out
Stakenet was there first

>> No.20111748

>>20110920
holy shit. This is so shamelessly copied.

>> No.20111870

>>20111036
Its going parabolic, I think I'm good

>>20111076
Maybe but its gone 4x in a month no? I can wait

>> No.20112596

>>20111633
Checked. XSN becoming the tail that wags the dog

>> No.20112635

I just sent my measily 2000 XSN to Stakenet's cloud. Mainly just to get it off livecoin. Is there anything else I need to do for staking? Or is it automatic?

>> No.20112662

>>20111870
Suit yourself just remember a bird in the hand is worth two in the bush

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>> No.20112787

>>20111633

> default DeFi exchange

Jizzed my pants rn. Get comfy now.

>> No.20112917

>>20112713
>that arthur
kek

>> No.20113026

>>20112713
What is this? For ants??

>> No.20113075

All in Link(in at @4.2x) rn. Should I sell 50% link and buy 50% XSN?

Link has massive and obvious upsides bit XSN looks cool and makes sense to me as a future top ten. Easily a top ten Dex within years of launch.


If only I knew the #'s

>> No.20113114

>>20113075
Do it, link already had its 100x this time it’s Stakenets

>> No.20113141

>>20113114
But why are more people selling stakenet than are buying?

>> No.20113161

>>20113114
Link has had a 100x? ICO was 9c faggot. Its not 9 bucks

>> No.20113164

>>20113075
I really suggest you to join discord and ask in general to try the DEX. It's in open beta and is already working seemlesly.

>> No.20113759

>>20112635
On stakenet cloud it is aw-tow-matic

>> No.20113819

>>20113161
Close enough kek which one is rank 12 on CMC faggot

>> No.20113843

>>20113075
If you have a sure thing with LINK, stick with what's helped you make it anon. XSN could very well be a 2nd fortune for you if you have a serious LINK stack

>> No.20113851

>>20113141
You do release over 80% of the coins are either in Masternodes or staking, right? RIGHT?

>> No.20113863

>>20101403
your English is trash

not surprised you're shilling a Chinese shit coin with huawei(!) for a partnership.

>> No.20113993

>>20113759
How long does it take to start getting rewards?

>> No.20114003

>>20113993
Anyone who knows this shit better can correct me if I am wrong but I think it takes about 24 hours before its eligiable for rewards

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>>20114003
Damn, really? My Tezos on Coinbase took around 45 days to start getting rewards so that’s what I was expecting. How frequently do you get staking rewards.

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>>20114074
Every block you get a small one so they add up over time. I only have 5k staked and heres what mine look like.

>> No.20114356

>>20114216
Fuck yeah. I like this project more and more each day. I might be a fucking brainlet but it definitely feels like it has huge growth potential

>> No.20114376

>>20114356
I like it. I like how you are constanting getting the rewards once they start and you don't have to lock in for any set amount of time to get rewards.

>> No.20114537

Where's the best place to buy this?

>> No.20114578

>>20114376
Yeah, even TPoS contracts are "at-will". When I got enough for my first MN, I let my TPoS merchant know in advance as a courtesy
>Me: Hey man, im upgrading to a MN. It was nice doing business with you
>Him: Ok. Let me know if you ever want to do TPoS again. Thanks.
Then I clicked a button to end the contract. Done.

>> No.20114588

>>20114537
Livecoin. It's been around for years so it's not shady but it's always a bad idea to leave your coins on there for long just like any exchange

>> No.20114700

>>20114537
Livecoin is the only place to buy afaik. Seems kinda funky at first but I successfully bought and pulled mine out directly to stakenet cloud without issue. I honestly might start using it since I don’t think it’s based in the US and there’s no KYC.

>> No.20114821

>>20114578
That's great.

>> No.20114849

>>20114700
>>20114588
Yeah I had a livecoin account from 2017 still that I hadn't used since then and it was still active and I still had my espers, if anyone remembers that one, on there that I forgot about. So its pretty legit.

>> No.20114855

>>20114700
Livecoin is based in Russia and run by mobs from there. Really easy to use. Just transfer out to your wallet once you trade

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>>20101243
>>20101403
I've been ignoring these threads but I'm really tired of seeing XSN being relentlessly shilled here. But the gullible on biz are being ripped off for their money...

You are...absolutely correct. I was involved with XSN years ago. It used to be POSW, and then rebranded to XSN. I then realized that Stakenet is fucking doomed because of 2 reasons

1) They built their project on bitcoin technology which is already outdated. Bitcoin's days are numbered...

2) The DEX was a 2017 meme idea that it holds little value in this day and age with regulations coming out.

Yankeeruinx runs the discord pump groups, he's good at what he does. He coordinated the POSW shilling back in the day and he is doing it again on reddit and on here. He and his buds are on discord running you all for FOOLS. Why do you think POSW has so much shilling on here?

They are desperate to drop their bags and to pump this project.

Do you think any institutional money is going to go into XSN? They tried it getting banks on board, no bank is gonna affiliate with a project that is affiliated with fucking Bitcoin and Litecoin. No one cares about a DEX except the hardcore traders.

This is just the fucking truth. The momentum XSN has right now is retail pumping. Once the pump finishes off holders are gonna dump on you fools. Its 2020 now and there are plenty more relevant projects at the marketcap range than XSN

Or continue to invest, not my problem. Im just sick of the fucking shilling on here 24/7. It's obvious Yankee is running his pump group.

>> No.20114921

>>20114588
>>20114700
Checked. Livecoin works well as an exchange for the time being.
>no KYC
>been around for years
The worst case scenario for the future is either
>A.) they get hacked cryptopia-style
or
>B.) they implement KYC
I believe theyre Russian, so A seems more likely.
Never keep your crypto on a CEX. They can have intentions and still get hacked like cryptopia did in Jan 2019

>> No.20114947

>>20114879
Skadoosh? XSN didnt force you to dump your bags at 3 cents. Why make them look bad?

>> No.20114948

>>20114879
I have to say, your one man army FUD against XSN has been pretty impressive. I'd say you hit at least 75% of XSN threads in biz over the last two weeks.

When do you sleep? Why did you sell your stack?

>> No.20114949

>>20114879
Agreed. The sad thing is that it looks like a good portion of biz is buying the shilling. A whole load of people are gonna be in for disappointment when XSN stalls.

>> No.20114980

>>20114948
No, that's someone else. I just started posting here.
>>20114947
I dont know who you're talking about. I'm not Skadoosh

>> No.20114983

>>20114879
Oh hey skadoosh hows it goin

>> No.20114984

>>20114879
>>20114949

Same faggot. Stop talking to yourself schizo. XSN is still there for you to buy back your loses and ride to the moon. Or you can keep the FUD to accumulate more if you're actually a whale. Regardless FUD doesnt work against destiny

>> No.20115010

>>20114948
>Why did you sell your stack?
I just told you why. If you seriously bought XSN within the last year you need to gtfo while you are up. Like I said, I dont see any reason for anyone to care about a DEX in 2020. I'm happy to you see you finally see gains, Yankee is great at pumping, he always has been.

I'm not excited about a Dex. Sorry. Theres just way more interesting things being worked on in the space. XSN has no partnerships except with what, Ledger and Litecoin? They threw all of they chips in with the DEX, its a hail mary.

I honestly feel bad for the team, but they made the mistake of building on bitcoin technology. It's a fool's errand.

>> No.20115037

>>20114984
Sorry I am on mobile it was for a different post

>> No.20115050

>>20115010
A dex is perfect for 2020. What are you talking about?

>> No.20115059

>>20115010
You don't see a reason for someone who wants to trade and not use KYC and still use an exchange that has the same liquidity as the big exchanges? You don't think that might be popular in the US at all? Not to mention margin trading or leveraged tokens that burgers aren't allowed to trade?
Why wouldn't that become the defacto exchange for people in the US?

>> No.20115080

>>20115050
IMF called for a "global reset". They are passing legislation for cryptocurrency as we speak. Crypto is going mainstream. The days of bitcoin are numbered. The days of trading crypto are also numbered, regulations are coming out and no boomer or any kind of normie is gonna want to trade on an anonymous dex without service or support. Stakenet is years, years late and the future they envision is never gonna happen.

The exchanges of the future are going to be highly regulated with KYC, leverage, and full service offerings.

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>>20115010
>I dont see any reason for anyone to care about a DEX in 2020

I’ll just leave this riiight here

>> No.20115106

>>20115059
>Why wouldn't that become the defacto exchange for people in the US?
First of all, Bitcoin is toast. Trump himself said he doesn't like Bitcoin. World leaders don't like Bitcoin either. They also dont like unregulated exchanges. This goes double for the USA. How the hell would XSN get regularity clarity as a dex? Theres no way in hell, its laughable. KYC is going to be mandatory, hell it already is defacto mandatory.

XSN is doa.

I mean, the writing is on the wall.

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>>20115094
And this

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>>20115094
>>20115113
And this

>> No.20115124

>>20115094
I thought you would use that quote. Unfortunately, Vitalik doesn't mean dex the same way as you think he is using it.

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>>20115094
>>20115113
>>20115120
And this

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>>20115094
>>20115113
>>20115120
>>20115131
Oh yeah what’s this?

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>>20115149
>Lightning dex
Cringe. Lightning is never gonna scale properly. XSN doa...
>>20115149
>24 posts
Gotta give you guys credit, you're shilling hard. Almost feels like posw days.

>> No.20115187

>>20115106
There's more than enough crypto traders for the DEX to absolutely thrive with greater than $500M trading volume. Besides this isn't just bitcoin. Your fud is weak

>> No.20115210

>>20115187
It’s sad he’s resorting to personal attacks because he’s got nothing on the project itself
>muh doa
You know it’s pretty impressive how resilient XSN is to fud

>> No.20115241

>>20115106
I guess they'll just make it illegal then and nobody will use it like drugs and prostitutes
Oh well xsn will surely go to zero then like drugs and prostitutes have
I mean every good American will surely just stick with KYC exchanges that limit what and how you trade and report everything to the IRS right? Why wouldn't they?

>> No.20115252

>>20115106
"I dont see any reason for anyone to care about a DEX in 2020"
"The days of bitcoin are numbered."
"Trump said he doesn't like bitcoin"

You are brain damaged hard but I laughed

>> No.20115267

>>20115241
Surly there will be no black markets interested. They’ll go through (where do burgers trade?) KYC CEX#32 to exchange currencies. Totally

>> No.20115287

>>20115252
Come on now, be nice to Skadoosh, he can’t help his primal urge to be a Skadouche kek

>> No.20115307

>>20115241
I’m 100% ready to suck whoever’s cock that can get me a 100% no KYC, no fucking keeping up with who I am exchange as a US citizen. The whole point of this crypto shit should be for me to fucking trade without the IRS sticking their fucking nose in the middle in it. They can eat my entire cock.

>> No.20115311

>>20115267
Yup. I'm afraid there will be no need for an anonymous DEX in 2020 or anytime after that. People want to send pictures of their faces holding up their state ID to exchanges before they are allowed to trade, so they are properly regulated. That's the real future.

>> No.20115345

>>20115307
Well ok, except for YOU, there is no need for anyone to care about an anonymous DEX with binance level liquidity and no KYC. It's DOA.

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>>20115345
I’m stoned, eating a cheeseburger, and can’t tell if you’re being a smarty pants

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>>20115311
Thats the future I dream of!
So how much XRP is a suicide stack??

>> No.20115456

>>20115392
>how much XRP is a suicide stack?
370,000,000

>> No.20115526

>>20115307
IRS doesnt give a fuck until you are cashing out. That's where they can get you

>> No.20115555

>>20115526
Every crypto to crypto exchange is a taxable event. They can "get you" way before you cash out. Expeciailly with the ol KYC exchanges

>> No.20115570

>>20115555
Damn, those digits

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>>20115187
>>20115210
>>20115241
>>20115252
Look at how vitrolic you guys are. I'm not even this guy. I'm just calling it how it is. Everything you have is riding on the success of this dex. I would wish you good luck but you're all so toxic, its not just to me but many others. Soon, biz will see your true colors. They always do.

>> No.20115676

>>20115526
Yeah this guy said >>20115555

They’ll fuck ya man. Pretty easily id imagine too. The only thing I have going for me is I have yet to break 10k volume so maybe I’m enough of a poorfag they’d just leave me alone.

>> No.20115703

>>20115660
Fudder turning himself into a victim. You have no power here

>> No.20115723

>>20115555
Nice digits but thought it only really mattered when converted to USD to cash out? Otherwise how else would people cash out at greater than one year of holding to pay less taxes (long term cap vs short term cap)?

>> No.20115799

>>20115723
If you buy $1000 worth of BTC, and you exchange it for $1010 worth of ETH because BTC went up you now owe taxes on a $10 profit. That's how it works. It's insane and really designed to be anti crypto but there you go
How they collect is another thing, I'd assume they'd just tell you they think you owe $X dollars and you'd have to prove otherwise or pay cause that's how they normally do it

>> No.20115863

>>20115799
I just never use kyc besides coinbase and only buy or cash out in eth. Its worked for years. Of things get tighter this exchange will be what I use. Thats why a dex is great.

>> No.20115965

>>20115863
I'm really trying to convince myself NOT to buy a huge bag of this but if it works like they say I can't see it not being really big in the next year

>> No.20116221

>>20115965
Remember how Bittrex and Polo called the shots in the early part of the 2017 bullrun, then they fucked up and KYC'd so Binance stepped in and became the dominant exchange over night?
Stakenet is hungry for Binance's spot. Like brick and mortar to digital retailers, they're of different classes bound to different rules and regulations.
The DEX is quite powerful as is. It will become exponentially more powerful with Raiden, CEX aggregation, and traditional atomic swaps to fill the gap when and where needed (coins that don't support LN/Raiden or have no 2nd layer to develop on).
Assuming the bull really picks up speed in about a year's time, this DEX being built could very well become the go-to exchange.
No matter what people try to conjure up to justify KYC, the epicenter for crypto trading has always been wherever KYC isn't.

>> No.20116628

>>20115965
I just got a moderate bag. Not a node. Just 5k to stake. I'm only in coins that are staked now. Makes it easier to not watch price or check in here every day. I made good money on sta and comp then lost some on bal but I'm getting sick of the rat race. Time to just go all staking and try to forget about all this for awhile.

>> No.20116638

>>20116628
coins/tokens whatever. Crypto that is staked I mean.

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>>20116638
Be careful with staking coins, anon. They're tempting because they provide constant rewards.
Remember that they are inflationary in nature.
Does the coin have a good use case to justify the inflation?
Does it's ecosystem have cause or reason to inflate? Are the logistics of it's ecosystem mutually beneficial?
Bitcoin is a deflationary bulwark against fiat currencies and the banks and institutions that exploited inflationary economics to drain wealth from anyone doing and evaluating the collective worth of legitimate work done by using credit and sub-prime to make imaginary money liquid to pump, then dump on the masses in a global exit scam, which they were then rewarded a flood of bailout money for from a bi-partisan congress who wanted to preserve the wealth ensnared in their insider traded funds - drastically weakening the spending power of the dollar and draining wealth from the masses.
tl;dr - If something must inflate, it must do so with very good cause.
XSN's inflationary supply has a deep use case in that it can either be burned or used towards new MNs to build up the DEX network on demand as BTC scales. 10% of all DEX fees are swapped into XSN and burned off as well.

>> No.20117119

>>20098418
Ok buddy.

>> No.20117398

>>20113141
It's simple. They're not.

>> No.20117426

>>20115660
You don't seem very smart.
Is this really your angle?
You had years to accumulate, anon... literally years.

>> No.20117452

>>20116221
>high iq post
Very well put.
I'd like to add, also, XSN's DEX should be very big within just a few short months.
The bull run will give us great rewards in terms of DEX fees, but we'll start seeing real value before the year is over for sure.

>> No.20117703

>>20117452
If the bull market plays out like last time, there should be 4, maybe 5 stages that run course from now into early 2022.
>BTC pumping again and coming very close to and finally breaking it's old ATH.
>BTC exceeding it's ATH by a little bit and crabbing around it's old ceiling
>BTC going on a major run above it's current ceiling at around $19.2k
>BTC hits a temporary ceiling, turns into a bull trap, and corrects downwards
>BTC hits a new floor, turns into a bear trap, and spikes up at a sharp angle far beyond the temporary ceiling

>> No.20117872

>>20113075
>xsn master node costs (15150*$.22)=$3333
>guaranteed transaction income in the form of xsn, for as long as you host the node
>assuming erc20 rollout is functional, transaction volume can safely be assumed to rival that of uniswap, given the additional functionality/capabilities of vortex
>45% of the block rewards for those blocks

Would it be worth it to you to risk 710 LINK to diversify your holdings, establish another potential income stream, and become an early adopter for what appears to be another top 20 project?

The answer is pretty obvious to me, but DYOR dude.

>> No.20117874

>>20117452
I've asked to use the DEX but still havent been let in. Been almost the whole day now

>> No.20117916

>>20114578
should kick your mn rewards into another tpos contract lol

>> No.20117923

>>20117874
You must have just missed the event.
I believe the community test was around 2PM-6PM Central Europe Time

>> No.20117971

>>20115080
lol then go all in on CEXes and show us your bet. if you're so confident defi is doa, put your money where your mouth is and post proof.

>> No.20117980

>>20115124
>citation needed

>> No.20118087

>>20117012
holy fuck that memeball had me diamonds

>2 mn stack here waiting for 3-4 uninterrupted hours so I can get rolling on this shit

>> No.20118311

>>20117971
If enough people actively enable and welcome KYC, then crypto will turn into a prison.

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do i buy into this rally? seems like a sucker move...but i don't want to buy when it doubles...help

>> No.20118810

>>20118569
It's not going down FYI.

>> No.20118839

>>20118569
Plan your moves wisely anon. I hope your entry into XSN is graceful.

>> No.20119229

market cap only $20m. lots of room for growth