/biz/ - Business & Finance

[Anonymous No.20089591]

>removed my PhD in Physics and MSc in Physics
>unironically started getting interviews at Mcdonalds and Dominoes

Well I guess they pay better than my lab rat job before

[Anonymous No.20089613]

>>20089591

[Anonymous No.20089702]

>>20089613
Thanks for reminding me that Physics is a completely unemployable degree for the sub 180 IQ. I actually have no regrets working for Mcdonalds or Dominoes to be honest. It may be a shitty job, but at least its good honest work. They're even treated better than lab rat slaves in research institutions.

[Anonymous No.20089757]

>>20089702
programming? finance?
there are good exit routes for physicists

[Anonymous No.20089784]

>>20089702
Just get a job at a consulting firm like lmao @ ur lyfe

[Anonymous No.20089822]

>>20089757
learn to code is the biggest meme ever
pajeets do it for $5 a day

[Anonymous No.20089857]

>>20089757
Tried initially but I'm just not good enough. I lack the logical thinking and spatial IQ required to crack leetcode, and honestly after I while I just fucking hated coding and the whole culture surrounding it.

>>20089822
This.

[Anonymous No.20089860]

>>20089757
This. How can someone be smart enough to have a PHD in physics but can't figure out how to do a career switch?
I'd tell you to get a job in the restaurant industry but it is also soul crushing work. At least you can get paid well if you don't care about career advancement and working unitl 3am in some cases (not all).
When I say restaurant I'm not talking about Applebees. If the average server / bartender doesn't ring $1500+ on a consistent basis it's not worth your time.

[Anonymous No.20089873]

>>20089860
>How can someone be smart enough to have a PHD in physics but can't figure out how to do a career switch?

See >>20089857

[Anonymous No.20089878]

>>20089822
Honesty, time it takes to become anything more than a pajeet is not worth it in late 20s. Maybe pick one thing and learn to code so you can fo that one thing, like something you actually like to work on/maintain.
Consulting is where it’s at, but sperg’s don’t get hired there easily.

[Anonymous No.20089886]

>>20089857
>I lack the logical thinking and spatial IQ required to crack leetcode,
How do you get a PhD in physics if you're bad at logic and spatial thinking?

[Anonymous No.20089888]

>>20089822
that's why you don't do meme shit like webdev but rather things like embedded dev in defence which is strictly off limits to pajeets

[Anonymous No.20089889]

>>20089822
>>20089857
Working with pajeets is horrible and so think most people. They'd rather hire capable locals than work remotely for cheap.

t. work in IT

[Anonymous No.20089896]

Turboautismo is strong on this one.

[Anonymous No.20089905]

>>20089878
>Consulting is where it’s at, but sperg’s don’t get hired there easily.

>MBB
>Big 4
>???
surely it can't be that hard to get in to firms below big 4 level?

[Anonymous No.20089931]

>>20089886
>How do you get a PhD in physics if you're bad at logic and spatial thinking?

I did condensed matter physics. Its not that hard desu. All the big brains do particle physics and cosmology where they deal with tensors and topology shit on a daily basis. The amount of math required for these areas is an understatement and could easily take a lifetime to acquire if you're not > 180 IQ

[Anonymous No.20089962]

>>20089931
>condensed matter physics
were you publishing? semiconductors? intel? globalfoundaries? tsmc? micron?

[Anonymous No.20089973]

>>20089873
Isn't logical thinking a big part of physics? There's a pretty high level of math. I can understand the spatial part but aren't math and spatial correlated?
I know there's a hedge fund billionaire who doesn't hire finance guys and he hires physics guys, etc if they can figure out the stuff needed.
There's also things you can do for yourself. Everything in business is just part math equation, part project management. If you can at least get one of the two down pact you can partner with someone or just find things that require less to no project management. That could be something like flipping contracts in real estate or day trading (which is obviously highly risky).
Point is, if you're really that smart and no one will give you a job (that's worth it) just figure out how to make your own job.
Use the internet for something other than porn and start searching for ways to do this.

[Anonymous No.20089980]

>>20089591
if you're a silver spoon boy like it sounds like you are, go all in AAVE before the new tokenomics get announced.

[Anonymous No.20089983]

>>20089591
A physics Phd that can't get a job. Sounds like you're autistic af but not even the good kind lmao. You better settle for public high school teacher or some shit.

[Anonymous No.20089988]

>>20089889
https://www.freelancer.com/
take a look

[Anonymous No.20090049]

>>20089962
>>20089973
>>20089983
I'm tired of dealing with asshats like you telling me what I should be just because I did a PhD in Physics. If you want to tell me I'm a loser then yes I am loser. But I'm not going to let my past dictate my future. If that kind of shit happened in the real world, whites would be paying slavery reparations lmao. It took me a lot of effort to get that interview from Mcdonalds and I'm going to fucking nail it.

[Anonymous No.20090072]

>>20090049
I really fucking hope this is bait dude

[Anonymous No.20090137]

>atlasshigged.jpg
Glad you are working and enjoying it op

[Anonymous No.20090144]

>>20090049
if this isn't a bait/LARP then I hope you get your job at mcdonalds and then hang yourself after mr goldberg fucks you over on your shifts

don't say that /biz/ didn't try to help you

[Anonymous No.20090184]

>>20089988
>freelance work is the same as working for a big company

[Anonymous No.20090298]

>>20090072
>>20090144
why the FUCK would this be bait? I'VE APPLIED TO THOUSANDS OF JOBS OVER THE PAST 3 YEARS (since I'm going to be jobless the whole of 2020 thanks to coronahoax)

These are some past threads of mine:

>>/biz/thread/S16607090
>>/biz/thread/S16225602
>>/biz/thread/S16215770
>>/biz/thread/S14621106
>>/biz/thread/S17692492#p17692715
>>/biz/thread/S16539824
>>/biz/thread/S16597205

[Anonymous No.20090301]

>>20090184
how long until every big company finds out they can cut 90% of the development cost

[Anonymous No.20090366]

>>20090049
>telling me what I should be
Isn’t that LITERALLY why you made these threads?

You seem immature as fuck

[Anonymous No.20090385]

>>20090366
I make these threads because I have no friends.

[Anonymous No.20090404]

>>20090301
My company knows they can, but they hate working with pajeets as I said. They are reducing working from India instead of increasing

[Anonymous No.20090610]

>>20090298
jesus christ bro.. what are you doing? You should probably seek help. Also, you can definitely do much better than fucking McDonalds. I know because I have a History degree and I've managed to get all sorts of unrelated technical jobs

[Anonymous No.20090648]

>>20089591
The only thing my Chem degree helps me with is growing dope. I make my own superior fertilizers for a tiny fraction of the price as opposed to buying
expensive store bought shit.

[Anonymous No.20090680]

>>20090610
>seek help
Seek help from therapists who charge you $50 an hour? Lmao. Reality is a scam.

[Anonymous No.20090705]

>>20090680
Well, sucks to be you where you live in a country where you can't seek help on your own and nobody you know will help you. I'd say your country is the scam but that's kind of trite at this point isn't it

[Anonymous No.20090714]

>>20089613
This. / Thread

[Anonymous No.20090762]

>>20090714
Oh don’t worry about that. Eventually I will kms

[Anonymous No.20090840]

If you want a friendly guy to chat with I can give you my discord. Also a hobby might help, you should try learning japanese. I'm in a server that could help

[Anonymous No.20090992]

>>20090840
I tried learning Japanese for a year once upon a time. I grinded djtkana and followed tae kims guide on japanese grammar. Even applied to jobs in Japan but STILL couldn’t get in. Thanks for your help but I’m a lost case. I was born to suffer in this existence and I’ve accepted that reality now.

[Anonymous No.20091089]

>Remove degree when applying to wagie work
>Get interviewed and hired instantly
>Go into employee account and add degree
>Apply for corporate positions after about a year
>Get hired immediately
>Get a position that pays three times as much and is a lot comfier

[Anonymous No.20091170]

>>20090992
why the fuck would you want to live somewhere where everyone around you wants you to fucking leave?

[Anonymous No.20091218]

>>20090992
Huey#7309 if you change your mind then add me.

In case this is the last time we ever speak, this is the advice I'd give you. Maybe you don't want advice, but I'd like to give you my opinion

>Take a large amount of LSD/DMT
>Learn to meditate
If you do these two things you'll prbably realise that the despair you feel is entirely fabricated my artificial pressures put on you by society. Might sound gay but it's true. Since you're neet, why not just leave and go to an ashram and meditate for a few months? Furthermore, why not just fuck off to a monestary and become a monk?

Anyway, if I were you, I'd either take a lot of psychedelics or I'd just yeet off to a monestary, or both if possible.

[Anonymous No.20091220]

>>20091170
I went through a weeb phase. It’s in the past now. I’ve also forgotten most of the Japanese I learnt

[Anonymous No.20091225]

>>20091170
I was born white in Canada and I feel that way. What do internet sage?

[Anonymous No.20091247]

Why not just become a neet with government gibs?

[Anonymous No.20091273]

>>20091220
Learning Japanese doesn't have to mean you're a weeb. Not every interest has to be taken to its most cringe extreme

[Anonymous No.20091398]

>>20091218
I don’t do drugs bro

[Anonymous No.20091399]

>>20089591
How do you spend that much time getting a PhD and never considering employment? How do you spend that much time and not have internships? How do you spend that much time and not learn a single coding language so you can go pick up a meme dev job?

LARP

[Anonymous No.20091427]

>>20091399
See >>20090298

[Anonymous No.20091432]

>>20091399
I think it’s possible that he’s legitimately that stupid despite having a PhD in STEM. I’ve encountered many such cases

[Anonymous No.20091465]

>>20091432
Yeah I knew a guy who was finish a Physics degree at a tough school but he was just the pizza cook at my restaurant. He also didn't understand any subtle nuance in regards to the 2016 election, trump bad man, etc.

[Anonymous No.20091553]

>>20089931
Please, condensed matter physics can actually be hard as fuck

Also the cream of the physics crop is NOT doing cosmology in 2020, what the fuck are you even talking about? They’re all doing some variation of quantum

>t. Stem anon

[Anonymous No.20091644]

>>20089591
>>20089613
>>20089702
I'm in a similar boat as you. Currently doing my phd in solar cells but only because after my masters I couldn't find a steady job.

Worked in restaurants and cafes and the jobs were more fun than anything in the lab or research. Too bad there's not really room for growth in those sectors, unless you're saving up for your own business.

With the money I have from Chainlink now I could easily start a business (or two), just not sure in what desu

[Anonymous No.20091686]

>>20091644
Are there really no jobs in renewable energy research, in this day and age? or do you just dont like working in lab or research

[Anonymous No.20091717]

>>20090301
>>20089822
lmao cope

[Anonymous No.20091733]

>>20089857
>I lack the logical thinking and spatial IQ required to crack leetcode
Just be a run-of-the-mill enterprise Java-coder for some blue chip company. You are there to collect a pay check, not crack leetcode.

[Anonymous No.20091748]

>>20091686
nah, I'm pretty sure I'll find something in solar energy, that's why I took the phd.

Before I had a masters in nanoscience and nanotech, which is a meme degree unless you're applying to niche industries, but desu I was just burned out with research back then.

[Anonymous No.20091750]

>>20090298
Well this simply can't be.I do stupid shit cuz i'm stupid. Smart dudes doesn't do failures. Smart dudes do smart shit cuz their smart dudes.

What the fuck is this ?

[Anonymous No.20091783]

>>20091733
>but I have a PhD in physics
If no larp OP is a mental case. Once again, I’ve encountered many such cases

[Anonymous No.20091818]

>>20091432
>elp on your own and nobody you know will help you. I'd say your country is the scam but that's kind of trite at this point isn't it

Is that even possible ? Look again at the variables in th equasion(Physics, Phd)

[Anonymous No.20091824]

>>20089889
based and whitepilling

[Anonymous No.20091827]

>>20089860
Ego, anon. Your while life youre told this is what you do and how great you are for doing what not a lot of people could. Imagine how much you miss out on, how much social life you give up for a physics ph.d. Then you get out in the world and find out its all a lie and youre not more qualified for a job than your average burger flipper.

I mean, also he couldve become a teacher. Always a shortage of those. Decent money until something opens in his field.

[Anonymous No.20091837]

>>20089591
Try to become a quant

[Anonymous No.20091844]

>>20091748
>nanoscience and nanotech
could be useful for some biotech startups or something

[Anonymous No.20091845]

>>20091748
Move to Arizona and take a job at Honeywell, Boeing, APS. They all hire anyone with a bachelor's in STEM

[Anonymous No.20091926]

in my line of work PHD is a major bonus (biomed science). Just get work to fund phd research and start ups and that kind of bs. You can even get into Venture Capital.

However, the requirements are that you should not be a sperg.

and if you really feel like jumping off a roof just join french foreign legion lmao.

besides, working at McDonalds is not that bad. Ok its pretty bad, but the company itself is genius. Did you know that they are in essence a real-estate company (one of the biggest in the world) renting franchises to aspirant managers? McDonalds Corp actually does not sell burgers, people pay for the privilige to do it.

anyway, go for it man, make some fries and burgers. with your creds and some experience maybe you can become assistant manager or one day open your own franchise.
enjoy the niggers

[Anonymous No.20091940]

>>20090705
>your country is a scam

You’re kinda right at this point. America as it exists now takes the idea of a pyramid scheme to a global scale.

[Anonymous No.20091960]

>>20091940

wish I was an American instead of a (western) europoor desu.

I get paid less than my American counterparts, pay more taxes, and I dont have an AR.

[Anonymous No.20091969]

>>20091844
as I said, I was a bit burned out at the time
In retrospect I'm quite happy I did the restaurant stuff, made me realize the academic world is a bit sheltered.
>>20091845
Phd can be considered overqualified though. Anyway my gf is in Spain so I'm moving there.

[Anonymous No.20092000]

>>20091926
>besides, working at McDonalds is not that bad. Ok its pretty bad, but the company itself is genius. Did you know that they are in essence a real-estate company (one of the biggest in the world) renting franchises to aspirant managers? McDonalds Corp actually does not sell burgers, people pay for the privilige to do it.
did not know that, pretty cool.
My uncle runs 2 fastfood restaurants and he's pretty rich

[Anonymous No.20092032]

>>20091960
I’ve never been to Europe but all things considered it’s pretty great here overall, despite it being the worlds largest scam.

[Anonymous No.20092159]

>>20091926
>However, the requirements are that you should not be a sperg.

This seems to be the main issue here, really. OP seems be unironically be autistic and it's a damn shame his family isn't helping him out here. He needs some help, obviously he's competent enough to get a doctorate but without no social skills it doesn't matter if he has a 200 iq he won't get a job without help from friends and family

[Anonymous No.20092305]

>>20089591
clown economy honestly

[Anonymous No.20092365]

>>20089591
Physics degreees are usually harder than math phd or masters in engineering it requires even
higher spatial working memory capacity, but it is not employable degree most will go to become teachers or uni professors. I think your best bet is teaching or some kind of research job

[Anonymous No.20092407]

>>20090049
>>20090072
>>20090144
>>20090298
>>20090366
>>20090680
It's clear the reason you're not getting jobs isn't because you have a physics PhD but more importantly because you're an asshat.
It took you years to figure out not to put a college degree on an application to a McDonald's?
LOL get fucked.

[Anonymous No.20092554]

>>20089613

He already had the rope on his neck on that pic. nice desu.

college rats forgete the first rule, you dont get rich by working. You get rich when u let work for yourself.
this can be thru money working for you or employees.
Remember to not end up as an wagie , even MSc In Gayshit in a company with good wage is still working..
Always let work for yourself

[Anonymous No.20092715]

>PhD in physics
>still retarded
well, can't win them all

[Anonymous No.20093062]

>>20091089
The only post in this thread worth reading.

[Anonymous No.20093168]

I miss working so much. I had an interview last week was set for the job. I have a medical marijuana card and I mentioned that to the office recruiter who called me about the job. She said "its fine as long as you have the card". Turns out she was wrong and I wasted days waiting for a phone call only for her to just text me and say "Sorry that was my mistake"

[Anonymous No.20093190]

>>20089591
no one likes smart arse

[Anonymous No.20093241]

>>20089613

My life may be shit but at least I'm not this guy. I mean just IMAGINE believing all the lies you're told by the public school system, your parents and society in general that you need to work hard and study so you can get a good job only to find out you've been jewed the whole time.

[Anonymous No.20093294]

>>20089822

I'm a programmer and I'm leaving this business forever. It's a miserable existence filled with constant stress and backpain.

[Anonymous No.20093379]

>>20089591
If this is true, I just wanna say that I feel for you bro. That’s fucking terrible.

[Anonymous No.20093459]

>>20091089
dangerously based

[Anonymous No.20093618]

I quit my PhD when myself and couple of my fellow students got a meeting with a representative of our funding body and she said it was highly unlikely any of us would get jobs when we graduated (in less direct words). I started working in blockchain just writing shit and now I've got a pretty good salary working for myself from home desu, don't give up and work a wagey job forever, apply yourself to something else you enjoy even if it takes a few years.

[Anonymous No.20093622]

>>20093294
What are you moving on to?

[Anonymous No.20093790]

>>20090992
fucking dumbass. Do you have literally any degree? just be an english teacher. Its what im doing and im not even a weeb

[Anonymous No.20094259]

>>20091837
This. A lot of math and physics graduates move into quant. Just study basic derivative pricing and the differential equations and you will get an internship.

>t. quant

[Anonymous No.20094317]

>>20093618
>representative of our funding body and she said it was highly unlikely any of us would get jobs when we graduated

She's a horrible person.

[Anonymous No.20094411]

>>20091398
Time to start living son.

[Anonymous No.20094423]

>>20094317
what?

she saved people from ruining their lives

[Anonymous No.20094469]

>>20094259
where/how did you apply?
What kind of CV did you send?

[Anonymous No.20094476]

>>20094259
Yeah no fuck math. I’m tired of that shit

[Anonymous No.20095029]

>>20090648
>TFW PhD in Chemical Engineering and I just want an entry level brewing job now.

[Anonymous No.20095116]

>>20089860
lmao having some research potential doesnt make you an employable genius a lot of the people who get those jobs are cream of the crop anyway they would be smart enough to do the jobs without the hoop jumping

[Anonymous No.20095156]

>>20092365
are you talking from experience? have you even taken real analysis? or any proof based courses?

[Anonymous No.20095425]

>>20091960
>He doesn't know about the Swiss tech field.
Ngmi

[Anonymous No.20096033]

>>20090610
>you can definitely do much better than fucking McDonalds. I know because I have a History degree and I've managed to get all sorts of unrelated technical jobs

Pls tell me.

t. BS in Business holder. Unemployed for nearly a year. Best paying job didnt require a degree but was a police state

[Anonymous No.20096062]

>>20096033
Also

t. Graduated over 5 years ago

[Anonymous No.20097088]

>>20089591
>>20089702
>>20089857
>>20089931
OP is completely correct. I just graduated with a bachelor’s in physics and I regret it. I really didn’t realize how worthless it is to get a physics PhD in 2020. Academic science is in the shitter and has been for some time since the 1980s. It’s really not worth losing your 20s for a PhD. It’s fun to flex on people that you’re studying physics, and probably even more fun when you’re doing a PhD, but it’s not worth it to lose your 20s over when this is the one period in your life you are going to have this much energy before you go down the shitter once you hit 30.

Wish you luck OP. I’m working out an exit plan, but feel lucky to not fall for the PhD meme.

[Anonymous No.20097109]

>>20089973
>Isn't logical thinking a big part of physics?
This is the biggest meme sold about physics. It’s really all intuition based. Where does this intuition come from? Who knows? But being an excellent physicist requires great intuition which is NOT logical thinking whatsoever.

[Anonymous No.20097128]

>>20089613
this futures fucked up, you're either too qualified and they don't want to pay you the money you are only qualified for or mcdonalds jobs want a bachelor's degree.
a clown world it is

[Anonymous No.20097144]

>>20092365
>Physics degreees are usually harder than math phd or masters in engineering it requires even
>higher spatial working memory capacity
No

> I think your best bet is teaching or some kind of research job
Research is a meme in 2020. No one wants to be a lab rat.

[Anonymous No.20097155]

>>20094259
How do you get an internship after you graduated university?

[Anonymous No.20097167]

Lads how are the normal job opportunities (i.e. without Corona going around) for a chemistry/biochemistry or biology PhD? I've read that for biology, it's priddy hard to find something related afterwards

[Anonymous No.20097176]

>>20097167
You go and try to become a consultant for MBB or a Pharma company.

[Anonymous No.20097258]

>>20095425
>Swiss tech field
Redpill me on this>>20095425

[Anonymous No.20097279]

>>20097258
>>20095425
Are you referencing to all the medical technology companies coming out of there as of late?

[Anonymous No.20097695]

>>20091218
Based and monkpilled

[Anonymous No.20097734]

>>20097258
>>20097279
Not necessarily, there's a lot of banking firms obviously and security based firms. You can abuse their high pay by avoiding taxes and living on the border of other countries in lcol areas like Baden-Württemberg and get creative.

[Anonymous No.20097827]

>>20090049
that first post was just asking for specifics on your research ;_;

[Anonymous No.20097835]

A lot of people talk about how smart or sociable they are to get the last few good jobs left, but also there's not even job security in those anymore. You could be upper management parasite finance at Big 4 or whatever and you'd still get fired for wearing the wrong matching tie with your suit. Why not, it's not like they don't have a line leading out the door 8 miles long.

[Anonymous No.20097931]

>>20091089
clever
it should have been long obvious (even to OP) tho, McEmployers don't hire PhDs for entry postions. The assumption being, you'll get bored after 10 minutes and fuck off again, or start sabotaging the machines or some shit to liven up your dreary existence

[Anonymous No.20097941]

>>20097734
>You can abuse their high pay by avoiding taxes and living on the border of other countries in lcol areas like Baden-Württemberg and get creative.
I get the lcol part but how do you avoid taxes? You'd be paying more taxes if you're a resident in Germany.

[Anonymous No.20098495]

>>20097941
Live in Germany but claim residency in Switzerland.

[Anonymous No.20098527]

>>20089613
I literally know the guy. He did not kill himself because he failed to find a job, it's because he caught his girlfriend choking on a huge BBC

[Anonymous No.20098573]

>>20091089
>after about a year.
Based plan but I don't think you realise how long a year is Anon

[Anonymous No.20098649]

>>20089591
So black Mesa isnt looking for qualified candidates in the field of quantum physics?

[Anonymous No.20098743]

>>20097734
What’s Switzerland doing in the security sector exactly? Thanks for the response

[Anonymous No.20099138]

I was about to learn code , you fuckers gave me no hope

[Anonymous No.20100026]

>>20099138
You’re the retard easily dissuaded by random shitpost

Keep being a loser

[Anonymous No.20100103]

>>20098527
i believe you anon

[Anonymous No.20100163]

>>20098495
So commit tax fraud to get ahead. Okay.

[Anonymous No.20100267]

>>20094317

She didn't directly say it... she spoke for hours about how 'competitive' the job market was, how many of us would have to work as post-docs for decades before securing a real job, and how private sector jobs were like rocking horse shit. My PhD was in biochemistry. I quit with a masters.

>>20094423

She unintentionally saved my time yeah. I even got paid to do my PhD but it wasn't worth it. Total meme, and most academics are based retards in everything except for their chosen study area, it's not at all surprising that they can't get by if they can't get a job in their 'niche'. Most are complete autists. I came from a working class background and worked hard to get to post-grad thinking it would elevate me on some social status level (literally from one of the poorest areas in UK even tho family aren't destitute) but it was all bullshit.

[Anonymous No.20100981]

>>20100267
Based. What do you do now?

[Anonymous No.20101044]

>>20089591
OP have you check national labs for jobs?

>https://www.sandia.gov/careers/index.html
>https://jobs.ornl.gov/viewalljobs/
>https://inl.taleo.net/careersection/inl_external/jobsearch.ftl?lang=en&portal=8110010144
>https://jobszp1.lanl.gov/OA_HTML/RF.jsp?function_id=14320&resp_id=51616&resp_appl_id=800&security_group_id=0&lang_code=US&oas=9h64wKX3izo3miJqyCwMHA..&params=gAzPFwjSsCgwrOuLlg1CLA98wxdCEKWUnwtp19M6yvuqVVJWmV3VXQ9J3bO8cuS5

I'm a recently graduated ChemE and I notice a lot of relevant job postings for people with PhDs in Physics, Chemistry, etc on these sites. I bet they pay better than McDonald's and you will get DoE/DoD clearance which will increase your employability even further

[Anonymous No.20101049]

That's how rich folk do it :^]

[Anonymous No.20101397]

Life is a giant popularity contest. No one actually cares about how qualified you are if you're an unlikeable aspergers retard. People like to think capitalism is all about individualism but its more about nepotism. Make some connections, find a place you would like to work and make a friend there.

Atleast get a job at costco or be a mailman or something.