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>> No.19987050

>>19987036
first for hips

>> No.19987059
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This I going to be you retards on Monday

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>>19987016
who are you to imprison another person though

nobody has any business doing that if you truly own yourself youre only accountable to god

not a doctor or some coward with a god complex who thinks he is so sane that he can walk down the street and pick the crazies and lock them up in a van and take them away and put drugs into people

instead of treating people like they have rights

i believe you should be able to commit suicide thats completely should be legal

its up to the family to stop it not a government to bring you into their detention facility where they torture you

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19987063

I’m ready for the Big Juicy Horse Cock on Monday

>> No.19987065

>>19987036
>a thread not created by gookspammer or pissposter
A fucking miracle.

>> No.19987077

>>19987063
>>19987059
where did the idea of monday being a big one come from? im seeing it everywhere which makes me think nothing will happen

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>>19987065
what a gook spammer o_o

>> No.19987088

>>19987036
What happened to Domino’s?

>> No.19987100

>>19987065
bro you would have been crying those exact same big normie tears if you had to look at guroposting a year ago

>>19987062
I would unironically lock you in my basement and feed you delicious foods

>> No.19987106

>>19987087
He's referring to the grown ass man spamming kpop in all of these threads

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>>19987100
im just saying kidnapping is legal in america in 2020

and its worse than china here

but some people are given the illusion like they have rights

when really youre on the verge of a indefinite imprisonment every breathe

whether thats unjust prison sentances
or mental hospital sentances

or gouging all your money

they eventually get everyone in some manner

>> No.19987115

>>19987077

The market closed 3 points above the 12 month moving average last Friday. If the S&P500 closes another 33 points lower, that signals capitulation and a downturn.

>> No.19987118

>>19987106
>grown ass man spamming kpop
lmao

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>>19987077
I saw it in my night terrors and the the magic TA dog of the west spoke to me in another one of my delirious episodes.
Some other Anons read the prophecies themselves and confirmed it.

Futures go .2% green, goes down to -.2% and then crab till close. Pow pump for 301.

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>>19987063
me started closing hedgies on green last week...we'll see if selling pressure continues.
but there should be plenty of liquidity to big bull
market rates are so low now again in usa

not big fan of politics and nobody should ruin their summer vacations following politics at all, but quick note that blm looking like getting out of control of their creator that is leftist establishment and turning against them from race war to a class war, as race wars are always class wars. that's why communistic revolutions always happen the dog turns against their owner. blm people are dumb but not that dumb even they start to see they are been played as a dumb voting cattle

>> No.19987133

>>19987091
>Commodities aren't attractive either.
Yeah, I can see the argument for this. It's a bit early to play it seems. I'm on pms for inflation risk, and an alleged outperformance in second drop scenarios.

>> No.19987139

aiaight fags im all in on ivr and oil, and already down 2k. hold or sell whats the thought for monday

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>>19987036
Has anyone ever actually done any backtesting on this weekendwallstreet shit?
How accurate is it?

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>>19987036

OIL CHADS REPORT IN!

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>>19987139

Hold 1 year and profit of huge div yields.

50% of my folio is in XOM and RDSB

>> No.19987163

>>19987148
RDSb XOM and HAL master race

>> No.19987173

>>19987062
If you even bring these ideas up to a mental health authority they will call you delusional; also your ideate-motor facility looks like fractional word-salad.

>> No.19987174

R senators have said they fully support second stimulus check

$1200 here we come

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>>19987144
You mean regarding the Open on monday?
I wouldnt care too much in this clown market though

>> No.19987178

just wish it was monday so i could waste money day trading lads

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>>19987148
Why do you do this to yourself?

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>>19987148
whats the plan captain!?

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>>19987063
WKHS is getting added to the Russell Index on Monday, BULLISH

>> No.19987192

>>19987144
Pretty much completely wrong every week

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/biz/ I know you all have finance degrees and are well versed in the market. assuming I have money going into a 401k and a Roth IRA, what sort of portfolio do you recommend for a standard brokerage account if my goal is to retire by lets say age 50, 55? QQQ, TQQQ, SPY?

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>>19987063
WKHS continues to get upgrades

>> No.19987206

>>19987132
Yeah its uncertain right now. I think crabbing is highest probability until tuesday

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>>19987173
i know thats what im saying theyre tyrants and the most evil people alive

if you dont say "Yes sir. :] I am very happy and I have taken my medication."

then they will keep you there as long as they want like they own you

a lot of people dont know about this tyranical system of false imprisonment and kidnapping that goes on that they think only happens in china

id rather be in the chinese one because theyre not going to give you that look and say did u take ur meds today?

theyll probably just kick your ass and leave you there but thats more dignified than the sick medical mental illness industry like youre in a horror movie with needles being pumped inside you

>> No.19987228

Made 36$ on 150$ investment on robinhood. Liquidating it at 8AM Central tomorrow and waiting til I get a few paychecks to deposit into webull.

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Lol what do you call this pattern? NKLA

Calculate the slope from 6/8 to 6/22

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>>19987180

Supply will shorten due to lack of investing in fracking. Because of capital intensive oil winning in the US smallcap oil producer will vanish from the market. All in all supply will go back. When economy re opens at 100% demand will skyrocket but supply wont keep up in the speed (this of course will happen when Oil reserves get rare).
Im talking about 100$ / barrel in the next bullrun

>> No.19987242

>>19987232
>Lol what do you call this pattern?
The pump and dump

>> No.19987243

>>19987228
>WeBull
>based on Hunan, China

why you do this

>> No.19987248

>>19987236
Yeah but what will 100 usd be worth?

>> No.19987249

>>19987180
To the bottom.

>> No.19987250

>>19987232
It's called anyone who didn't cash out at $75 is a fucking retard.

>> No.19987252

>>19987177
More or less, but I'm specifically talking about the 'weekendwallstreet' cfd service that's occasionally posted here.
>>19987192
figures

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>>19987202
you dont know that far how well some continent's market performs. currently as dollar is reserve currency dow and spy are safe

>> No.19987256

>>19987123
that's a pretty bold prophecy

>>19987121
PNC stock price keeps going down but I'm really fond of them
they seem like a very "boring" and responsible version of the big banks - I can see them continuing to grow their market share this decade.

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>>19987133
>I'm on pms for inflation risk, and an alleged outperformance in second drop scenarios.

Where can I read about this?

>>19987202

Pick which one of these combinations suits your desired returns and risk appetite.

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>>19987148
RDS or TOT?

>> No.19987267

Why are leveraged ETFs bad for holding?

>> No.19987268

>>19987236
>>19987248
Thats also assuming the demand will return to previous levels which many comentators believe wont be the case :/

>> No.19987278

>>19987100
Normie breaking over dumb things makes me want to find some piss gook pictures.

Is it wrong to mentally break invading normies?

>> No.19987281

>>19987202
>/biz/ I know you all have finance degrees and are well versed in the market.
lel
but yeah, if you're going to be holding that long term just go for etfs, which one you pick doesn't matter that much, maybe hedge with derivatives if you're feeling adventurous

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>>19987256
>that's a pretty bold prophecy
The spirits would never lie to me
Especially not captain Morgan

>> No.19987295

>>19987211
do you have any prescribed medication that you take?
I'm just curious. I'm prescribed amphetamines ~~

>> No.19987300

>>19987267

They suffer horrendous drawdowns on a pure buy and hold strategy. So you either have to time the market by trend-following, or you diversify into a levered bond ETF like here:>>19987264

>> No.19987303

>>19987202
S&p etf
Qqq etf
Soxx etf

for usa based etfs.

>> No.19987306

>>19987211
If you just lied in a bed and were "debilitated" by psychiatric medications following mental hospital programming you would be better off. You fear and reason about authority and delusions, playing mouse to their cat. Annihilation or control are all you will find.

>>19987243
Sinophobia is a psyop

>> No.19987309

>>19987236
yeah im not that retarded, i know oil will go up in a few months or years but should i sell all on monday and buy when it starts to climb. this corona spike got me weak hands

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>>19987202
Hold off for now, market could take a decade to recover.

>> No.19987325

>>19987248

Probably a regular size bigmac menu bro

>>19987268

The demand will not return to previous levels, since the economy will need time to get back on the regular track im expecting 2022 Q1 first good earnings for oil stonks.
If trump gets re elected and he doesnt go full retard he will for sure do more for the economy to get back on pre corona levels.
Maybe some tariffs on foreign oil like the mudslime arab oil

>> No.19987331

>>19987315
Economy maybe years
A lot of stocks benefit from this long term.

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>>19987253
I somewhat understand what you are saying

>>19987264
can you explain how to "split" investments up like that, e.g. 60%/40% TQQQ TMF? Is that "split" called anything in particular? I use TD Ameritrade by the way

>>19987281
just joshin. lots of noobs here, sure. Can you elaborate on what you mean by "hedge with derivates"? Can you give me an example?

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>>19987288
I'm getting in touch with the spirits myself right now
I don't know what they'll tell me

>>19987278
I wouldn't advocate for spamming unwanted pictures just to piss people off.
If you post pictures that are board-legal along with discussion about stocks that's fine, and if the images bother the women and children they can go somewhere else. Just don't be obtrusive

>> No.19987355

>>19987211
How far are you in the spectrum?

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>>19987036
>my waifu OP
Wow

>> No.19987369

>>19987331

This. Basically right now is the moment to buy in cheap to get high div.yields. to ROI faster when economy is on recovery

>> No.19987371

>>19987332
>can you explain how to "split" investments up like that, e.g. 60%/40% TQQQ TMF? Is that "split" called anything in particular? I use TD Ameritrade by the way

Literally just take your total capital and put 60% of it in one fund and 40% in another. You have rebalance it every year at minimum, every quarter ideally.

>> No.19987373

>>19987306
Sinophobia has been an American cultural tradition for almost 150 years.

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>>19987295
dude if i went to the psychiatrist everyday i could have 90 different pills prescribed to me if i wanted to by now

its all complete bullshit as a industry theyre jews and they like making money off your taking big pharma medication

and doing damage to your brain and health at the same time because they dont have time to help you fix your problems and work through it

and actually talk to you

they say well im retarded and my college told me to just prescribe people stuff my iq is literally zero i read from the books in college

theyre all getting their information from the same place you have to because you cant keep your license if you dont do it the way that they say you have to do it

>>19987306

honestly my biggest fear in life is being bored to death in a mental hospital

it was so boring that it made me psychologically damaged permanently

and so now im very careful with my words because i know the fbi can kidnap you whenever they want

>If you just lied in a bed and were "debilitated" by psychiatric medications following mental hospital programming you would be better off.

humans cant stand up for human rights?

why not?

kidnapping is bad

if i was going to be against regular kidnapping of little girls why not be against fully grown adult men kidnapping too

its ok because the government can do it?

nah.

>> No.19987384

>>19987300
What if you just yolo and hold it forever?

>> No.19987391

I'm going all in on $CLDR tomorrow morning at open.

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>>19987202

>> No.19987399

>>19987384
tempted to do that with oil, just not open my account for a year.

>> No.19987408

>>19987349
No, we got to shoo away /pol/ and r/wsb tourists

>> No.19987415

>>19987202
30% SPY
30% QQQ
30% MSCI world ETF
10% whatever suits you. SOXX, TecDax, AMZN.

If you think other markets will grow more:
25% SPY
25% QQQ
25% MSCI World ETF
25% Emerging Markets ETF

>> No.19987418

>>19987202
100% SOXL.

>> No.19987421

>>19987384
>What if you just yolo and hold it forever?

It'll work in the long run (20+ years). If you're young and have no intention of touching your retirement savings until you're 60, then putting it into TQQQ and forgetting it is a good strategy.

>> No.19987425

>>19987399

How do you do it anon, im checking my account every hour please spare me some advices

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>>19987355
mental illness isnt real dude

actual derpy brain damaged people probably took vaccines and their brain reacted too it poorly

>> No.19987430

>>19987415
>emerging markets
>world
>ever
World is crabtown forever
Emerging markets is 100x the risk of pennystocks with 1/10th the upside.
What are you even doing on /biz/?

>> No.19987433

>>19987384
Probably go exponential eventually. The big problem is emotion though.

The big benefit is ai probably starts actually getting huge roi sometime in next 20 years but even 1x equity holders will blst off with that.

Im currently mainly picking stocks on self driving car exposure upside. Its gonna be like netflix growth and obvious in hindsight. Tech etf give broad exposure to whatever that trend is that makes things 10x by 2035

I think social fabric is fucked but tech is still blasting off in many ways.

>> No.19987436

I just wanna be rich and I want lots of money

>> No.19987444

>>19987332
>Can you elaborate on what you mean by "hedge with derivates"? Can you give me an example?
sure, you could buy protective puts to hedge your downside risk against market crashes, and/or cap your upside exposure and get credit by selling covered calls.
Doing both as a 'collar' is a pretty good strategy, since there's some asymmetry between the probability of upward movement and downward movement (think of the old saying: "stocks take the stairs up and the elevator down") so there's some strategic benefit to exchanging unlikely upside gains for protection against larger downward moves.

>> No.19987445

The sheer bearish attitute i'm seeing around here leaves me convinced we're going to new heights

>> No.19987456

>>19987425
idk man i think im just depressed with losing money, mabey getting a bit sick of this clown market

>> No.19987460

>>19987445
>The sheer bearish attitute i'm seeing around here leaves me convinced we're going to new heights

Yet Reddit, Robinhood kiddies, and financial media are still bullish, which makes us the contrarians and probably the ones who are correct.

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>>19987375
there was a famous psychiatrist saying going to see psychiatrist is the most dangerous thing you can do these days :) ssri/benzos/adhd meds etc. tend to wreck people out of their minds. for example xanax is best selling psych drug and many say harder to get off than heroine

Xanax (alprazolam), 48.5 million.
Zoloft (sertraline), 41.4 million.
Celexa (citalopram), 39.4 million.
Prozac (fluoxetine), 28.3 million.
Ativan (lorazepam), 27.9 million.
Desyrel (trazodone HCL), 26.2 million.
Lexapro (escitalopram), 24.9 million.

>> No.19987478

>>19987430
EEM is doing fairly well actually. Its World that is mostly just crabbing.
Also Anon is trying to invest and never think of it again till he retires. Diversifying at least 30% of that risk away from the US seems good.

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>>19987425
I stare at charts 9:30am to 4:30pm ,unironically. I need help. I also check premarket and after hours obsessively

>> No.19987493

>>19987478
Imagine actually believing this, when in truth when US goes down 1%, the entire rest of the world goes down 50%, but when US goes up 1%, the rest of the world stays still.

>> No.19987500

>>19987484
just get really sad and give up. i might just ignore this monday thing and hold

>> No.19987502

The senate polling results and recent comment that second stimulus checks will happen from r senators on saturday is good news for markets.

whatever stimulus we get is likely higher after the last 7 days of news and senate election polling

Holding their seats is an easy exchange for higher stimulus. Might piss big donors off but they likely cave to protect corp tax rate.

>> No.19987507

>>19987421
But >>19987264 had insane returns over only 10 years. Now imagine if you save cash to buy whenever there's a drawdown

>> No.19987516

>>19987493
Not to mention
>>19987478
>EEM is doing fairly well
>3% gains in 5 years
>SPY alone is >44%
Sure, chang, whatever you say.

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>>19987469
ya its all built to work against you

lets say you have kids and you go into the psychologist office to "get help" they could take your kids away from you if they thought you were dangerous at their digression even though they are your kids and you went in to get help

like its there to hurt people.

i cant even buy a gun for the rest of my life because i have a history of mental illness

there goes my 2nd amendment

>> No.19987529

>>19987469
Agree.

Xanax + alcohol is the case in most freakouts

>> No.19987551

>>19987502
Further stimulus is priced in unironically. Every projection I've read and even the stress tests last week assumed stimulus was on the way.

>> No.19987558

>>19987469
do research into all the mass shooters we have had in the past 20 years. most of them were on one of those drugs you listed.

>> No.19987560

>>19987436
and then what

>> No.19987568

>>19987551
Yes 1 trillion floor. I just think it gets a bit more generous due to last week and pressure on r senators in polls.

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/biz/newfag here. Pls show a poorfag your ways. How do I turn money into more money.

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>>19987469
My problem with psychiatry in general is the following:

1) It seems reactive vs proactive. It does not seem to get to the root issues (e.g. situation X causes brain states such that person P feels depressed. Lets not address situation X but instead give someone a pill so that they can now cope with situation X). Now granted, depression most likely has a genetic component and even if person P had all the money and fame in the world, they may still feel depressed due to genetic reasons. So that's a counter-argument right there for ya.

2) This is the bigger issue: We a) do not know the long terms effects of these drugs on persons (this is really a general critique of technology) and b) we do not understand how the drugs causally work. Studies and statistics tell us that the drugs SEEM to work, but we don't know exactly HOW they work. We have theories as to how they work. That scares me a little.

I am of the option that a) good social connections/relationships b) good physical health and c) some sense of meaning/purpose/happiness-at-work/spirituality will cure most woes. We are going to lose a) due to the state of the world, the internet, COVID, etc. We are going to lose b) due to the corporations pushing Coca-Cola on us. We have already lose c) cus Nietzsche & the crushing weight of working at Amazon in a warehouse.

you can find more on my blog at www.fuckyouI'mmoresoythanyou'lleverbe.com

t. philosophy undergrad who was a barista before COVID

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>>19987484

you want my daily routine?
Ok here we go:

>Be me
>Be in paid vacation 5 weeks now
>do nothing because of the 'rona but stay at home
>watch portfolio everyday starting from 9:30 AM to 1pm.
>Food and Entertain break 2 hours
>Come back in front of my pc and watch the market
>watch will 6pm
>get food and watch some news
>get back on stonks account till 10pm
>watches horror movies at midnight(ish)
>goes to sleep
>repeat this routine for 5 weeks without going out because bars and stuff are still closed or you can only wear gay masks which i dont want

So what happened during that time to me:

>actually market tends to look crabby
>my hand weakens and i sell my entire cost averaged folio for mid premiums eating nearly entire profit
>2 weeks later get anxious of that amount of money and afraid of inflation and powell making my money worthless
>decides to buy in this week on monday again with higher risk (50% in Oil only in XOM and RDSB) rest of portfolio are the old stonks i sold
>premiums now in 4 digit area
>literally want to kms because of oil stonks
>market is going to fall another 50% till election i know for sure
>me has no cash left to buy in for some dips
>literally feel like poorfag

>> No.19987625

>>19987568
Lol.

>> No.19987627

>>19987611
Option 1: Consistently make good investment decisions
Option 2: Make risky decisions and get lucky

>> No.19987636

>>19987507
>>19987516
ARKK by CATHERINE WOOD looks good.

>> No.19987644

>>19987267
they decay
https://www.investopedia.com/articles/financial-advisors/082515/why-leveraged-etfs-are-not-longterm-bet.asp

>> No.19987645

>>19987493
>>19987516
>Diversification means you invest in the one area that has been good in the past
You realize we talk about 30 years here? Diversifying the portfolio is good here. Especially if you are invested exclusively in the US, work in the US and depend on the US.
Just like bonds arent there to make you moon like NVDA, but as insurance.

As a Chinese you should invest all in the US and maybe Europe. Do not base your whole life on one country.

>> No.19987657

>>19987611
it's probably going to take some patience.
your investment strategy will be based on your goals, the amount of time that you have to achieve them, and your risk tolerance. You can just go to an investment advisor/wealth management person and they'll give you the boilerplate spiel

>> No.19987666
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>>19987615
the college system is like a mill dude the people go through it wanting to get a job to make money and women say "hurr ill pick psychology" because women are just manipulative psychological bitches thats all they do

you need to make college loans illegal and force college to go back to how it was when only rich people go to college

nowadays the IQ is so low that you go in and you have a roastie tell you ya you need zoloft after looking at you for 20 seconds

and expect 100k a year

theres so many problems with this country that you cant actually fix it

you have to go to europe where some things are not crazy like this with the big pharma tyranny going on

they dont use nearly as much pills for depression in europe

>> No.19987668

Early reminder that Elon silenty euthanized the solar roof project. He also cut the terms of the warranty for those that were built from "infinite" to "20 years" which is less than the time for the roof to "pay for itself"

>> No.19987670

>>19987644
They’re insolvent, more importantly.

>> No.19987676

>>19987611

Buy divvie stonks.
Wait 1 quarter get divvies (now your money worked for you instead of you working for the money)
congratulations

>> No.19987681

>>19987615
>t. philosophy undergrad who was a barista before COVID
how did you get interested in stocks
what are your favorite philosophical ideas?

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>>19987469
Former benzo addict here, shits rough
fuck shrinks, fuck reductionist psychology and most of all FUCK (mind)JANNIES

>> No.19987695

>>19987645
>>>/x/
You belong nowhere near /biz/, you don't even know the most fundamental concepts of economics 101, let alone markets, or even stocks. All you know how to do is schizopost.

>> No.19987719
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>>19987688
it shouldnt be such a thing as psychology or psychiatry

only therapy where they actually stop being lazy and jewish and just tell u what is the problem in your life and how to take steps to fix it

if god didnt make some herb that does the same thing then you shouldnt put it in your brain

why did i need to wait till 20th century for some brain nuke to squelch all my feelings

because the country is living in hell and roastie doctors are my only way out which end up making it worse for you

they allowed women to have jobs

>> No.19987728
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>>19987688
hehehe flying anuses

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>>19987695
I accept your surrender

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>WKHS is not worthy of discussion on investing subs because DRUMPF
absolute state

>> No.19987749

>>19987741
Are they still banning discussion of it?

>> No.19987755

>>19987688
I was into Zanax to calm my nerves day trading during the final crisis. Shit fucked me up for a few years after. Only in the last couple of years have I been feeling normal again.

>> No.19987768

yo shut the fuck up with the mental bullshit.
do i buy or sell, that is the question

>> No.19987781

>>19987768
or hold even

>> No.19987794
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>>19987755
i typed in amazon natural anxiety remedy and bought a 7$ container of little dis solvable things

and it worked

i dont need their xanax crud ill take 4 of these if i have an attack

>>19987768
your money only matters if u can escape america

if you have it here then someone is going to sabotage it theres no trust in this society

>> No.19987795

>>19987736
lmao butthurt.

>> No.19987796

>>19987741
expand. What does Workhorse have to do with Trump?
It has been talked to death last few days and it's just a copy/paste of the Nikola meme if you ask me.

NIO is legit though
I know spoilers dont work

>> No.19987831

>>19987618
You got emotional. Probably because you are watching lines all day everyday. Take a break more often and assess away from your computer. Sit in an empty room and think about your investments and what could go right and also what could go wrong.

I think anybody critical would have assessed that the upside of investing in oil right now does not weigh up to the risk you take. Everything pointed towards another leg down, maybe not next week but probably sooner than later.

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>>19987666
>they dont use nearly as much pills for depression in europe
That's good to hear.

I agree with the rest of the stuff you're saying. I think more people should get into trades. It's less debt, comparable money, and supposedly it's decently rewarding.

>>19987681
>how did you get interested in stocks
I got into crypto in 2011 and just gravitated to here. I'm not heavily into stocks and I've lost some money making dumb plays with options.

>what are your favorite philosophical ideas?
I have a lot and I'll just list off a few big ones
1) Is metaphysical materialism/physicalism true? That is, can EVERYTHING be reduced down to something physical (like an atom or a quark or whatever)? If it's true, where does that leave room for the human being: how can we explain consciousness? How can we explain (in physical terms) the subjective feeling of what it tastes like to eat a piece of chocolate?

2) Does God exist? Can we even rationally talk about God (since God seems so ineffable and grander than us humans), or is God something that is more personal and subjective? .. This is really more religious / theology than classic philosophy

3) I like Martin Heidegger, and I'm gonna butcher his ideas but Heidegger was concerned that we (we being the human race) have, over time, been way way far to concerned with "beings" (like actual physical things, like what science seeks to find, like widgets, like technology, like things I can point to in the world) than with Being itself (Being defined as that which allows anything to even fucking exist in the first place). Heidegger seems to think that we're so focused on "beings" and that we have developed such a technological view of the world - that we view the world and the Earth in such a negative light. We look at the forest as a means for wood. We look a the river as the means to build a dam. We have become less spiritual and more destructive over time.

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hmmm...
>*type type type*
mmhmm... mm...
>*tappa tap tap*
and... there we are. that should do it.
>hits Enter

>> No.19987846

>>19987611
Invest or learn to trade.
>>19987795
No
U
>>19987768
I think end of July will set the stage. Earnings reports come in and, looking at NKE, they will be terrible.
Stay in cash and wait seems like a good idea. If monday is green we should buy in for now I guess.

>> No.19987858

>>19987781
>>19987768
I was in a mostly neutral position before last week and and started DCAing after every red day last week. Will probably continue doing this with some hedges, shits too wacky to predict.
>>19987719
I agree, counselors provide roughly the same service as shrinks, with more actionable advice and less pure nonsense psychological reductionism.
>>19987755
I feel you man, got real hard in the stuff and started buying RC's on the internet after my shrink got me addicted. I still miss it a bit, but it's good to not be dependent. My memory still seems not 100% tho.

>> No.19987864
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Alright, which is the best broker? I want to trade penny stocks since I am poor, but I live in Europe, so I can't take advantage of low commissions.
I'm thinking about Interactive Brokers.
Any suggestions?

>> No.19987873

>>19987864
Tastyworks
IBRK

>> No.19987878

>>19987864
I've heard good things about Degiro, but it's not available in my country

>> No.19987895
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Why does WeBull not have a wikipedia page?

>> No.19987898

>>19987036
ONTX CHADS RISE UP

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>>19987834
its not about trades or not trades

the large corporations have completely taken away all autonomy that people actually believe they have to college

because they actually do now

youre supposed to just do whatever your family does you have a small business

the idea that you need to go find a corporation to hire you and qualify

is a fundamentally horrible idea

>> No.19987909

>>19987895
They have information which will lead to the incarceration of Hillary Clinton

>> No.19987917

Why the fuck is this smg some faggot journo diary hugbox today. FUCK YALL

>> No.19987919

>>19987864
ibrk is absolute garbage. Nickels and dimes you every occasion, only gives you delayed data by default, probably the worst platform the world has ever seen (buggy and slow as fuck so even if you purchase data you can't rely on it with a frequency higher than 2 minutes delay, can take up to 5 minutes to display the chart for a selected ticker, and so forth). Only good if you want to buy and hold with margin (on account of the fact they have the lowest margin rates around and pretty low trading fees enabling efficient re-balancing). Unless you're cucknadian, don't go there. If you're cucknadian, consider questrade instead.

>> No.19988004

>>19987618
>sell entire cost averaged folio
>buy in again with higher risk
its crazy how many people on here and similar places have a story that goes:
step 1: have a plan
step 2: ruin that plan and gamble everything a short while later

>> No.19988034

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2020-06-27/americans-hold-huge-pile-of-cash-that-s-key-to-economic-recovery


Fuck your bear market

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>>19987618
Im the happiest and most profitable when I write options two weeks out and then just stop giving a shit desu
Just dont watch.

>> No.19988072
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FINANCIAL HOLOCAUST TOMORROW

>> No.19988104

>>19987794
>your money only matters if u can escape america
>if you have it here then someone is going to sabotage it theres no trust in this society

whoa...

>>19987834
I got up to 300 level philo classes while I was taking my engineering degree but I don't have the intelligence to do anything right
Compared to your thinking, I'm more comfortable with an abstract situation where we don't know the limits between the real and unreal, in a physical sense. I don't think that it's going to be a problem solved in our lifetimes; but if it is, it won't be solved by me thinking about it ;).
As I've grown older, the philosophers I'm interested in have changed to the ones who have ideas about society, and concepts of communication between individuals or groups of people. Symbols, maybe.
You know, the 20th century french wankers. It would have never been interesting to me in my teens or early 20s, but it is now.

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>>19987796
>he doesn't know

>> No.19988112

>>19988034
>America is not spending its money
>Americans have enough money but the government wants to take on more debt to give them more money
>these are bullish signals

lol

>> No.19988119

>>19987895
Because it’s based on Hunan, China

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>>19988072
FISCAL HOLODOMOR IN 22 HOURS

>> No.19988126

What does the fed have left to prop up the market and in which are they more likely to employ sooner than later?
If I had to place them in order of likelihood to be implemented, I’d say it’d be like:
-further deregulation of financial sector
-deregulation of other large sectors
-direct purchasing of ETFs
-direct purchasing of corporate stocks
-negative interest rates

>> No.19988129

>>19988072
I’m not Jewish so I’m not worried.

>> No.19988157

>>19988104
>You know, the 20th century french wankers
I'm not too much into the continental philosophers other than Heidegger. I'm pretty "right-brained" and I like shit spelled out to me VERY clearly, then the wanker as you call em are just so god damn verbose ..

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R1K46oK3xTU

>> No.19988161

So it looks like chase bank got hacked or something
Hope none of you were holding them

>> No.19988168

>>19987796
You stupid fuck WKHS actually has a final product line, a factory ready to produce, a working example of their product, and are ready to begin production. Also they have preorders selling out their stock for the next year and a half.
Nikola niggers have a PowerPoint

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>>19988072

get lost bobo , jerome will buy all those bags

>> No.19988241

>>19988104
>It would have never been interesting to me in my teens or early 20s, but it is now.
right there with you man, I'm an engineer too to boot. Seems like there are a disproportionate amount of engineers who like pomo stuff.
I used to be some sort of positivist when I was a teenager and cared about the anglo side of philosophy, but as an adult it all seems so unfounded, inconsequential and useless, when compared to the continental guys.

>> No.19988270

>>19988171
Jerome already switched sides. Trump is finished. They will crash the market just to show how incompetent he is.

>> No.19988296

>>19988112
>most americans can afford to buy a new car in full right now
>this isnt bullish

You realize Americans usually can only afford groceries?

>> No.19988314

>>19988124
What's Holodomor?

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>>19987266

RDSB Ofc anon.
Fk the frenchfags

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>he thinks there's going to be a crash tomorrow

>> No.19988353

What is more likely EOY, GLD 200+ or SPY 350+?

>> No.19988359

starbucks boycotting all social media

A Starbucks spokesman said this social media pause will not include YouTube, which is owned by Google.

>> No.19988369

>>19988126
PLS RESPOND

>> No.19988371

>>19988314
Glorious Soviet education on why food is not important resulting in the death of 4 gorillion people but it's okay because gommunism.

>> No.19988377

>>19988296

So where's the spending? This is why tech stocks are surging while everything else is flat or going down. You can spend on tech at home, but everything else - cars, cruises, plane rides, trips to Disneyland, new clothes - rely on people wanting to go outside. Businesses continue to lay people off by the thousands, and cases are surging again. You'd have to be nuts to think that these conditions are bullish.

>> No.19988379 [DELETED] 

>>19988328
I wouldn't say impossible but much Thursday's break, Monday is a bad day to crash it.

On Monday the Sunday Covid numbers come in and they are much lower than weekday numbers. Tuesday is when Monday's numbers come in and usually when we bears have a bit more momentum.

It's all random though so who knows.

>> No.19988385

>>19988353
I would say they are as likely as each other, massive inflation is going to be unleashed

>> No.19988397

>>19988377
Yes, people have more money than ever because lots of ways to spend money are gone. Clubs/bars/concerts/trips etc are huge money pits for consumers.

They have more money for tech spending than ever.

>> No.19988398

Round 2 of Govt checks happening in July I hope. Be sweet to see another 2400 dollars land in my checking account by end of July. I gotta feeling I'll be heading back to work full time by this fall. They're re-opening up more each month and they're talking of getting school back on during the fall. Sucks. I've enjoyed my early retirement. Still been getting paid in full this whole time this shit's been happening.

>> No.19988405

>>19988270
Jerome is talking sometime this week, so yes, the markets are guaranteed to dump whenever he talks

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Another -8% for Facebook

>> No.19988425

On Monday we get Sunday covid numbers. These are depressed compared to weekday reporting.

On Tuesday we get the typical "highest day" reporting numbers, overall.

so yeah, a monday crash is harder than tuesday and most people looking to induce one via futures or other methods will usually wait till monday night.

>> No.19988429

>>19988397
>Yes, people have more money than ever because lots of ways to spend money are gone. Clubs/bars/concerts/trips etc are huge money pits for consumers.
>They have more money for tech spending than ever.

Yeah, which is why the stock market is being held up solely by tech stocks and by the Fed printing and lending money. Once the money stops flowing, the market will fall to its actual value.

>> No.19988430

>>19988377
>he doesnt watch CVNA

As long as Carvana is trending upward, the auto market is better than it should be. Cruises are booked for years. Airlines are stopping social distancing policies.

Do you think the average debt culture american has the capacity to hold their savings? No. They quite literally can ONLY spend it.

>> No.19988432

>>19988406
How far can it really go down tho? I feel like for every sell off there’s gonna be a lot of ppl ready to buy.

>> No.19988440

>>19988406
Probably priced in by now that other companies would follow suit.

>> No.19988452

>>19988406
so what's the consensus on the real reason for this shit?
Cutting down advertising budget?
Some sort of under the table deals?
Extortion?

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What are you gonna do with the next stimulus check?

>> No.19988459

>>19988429
so never?

When is the fed going to stop? It's also worldwide stimulus and low interest rates with central bank supporting.

>> No.19988463

i expected trump to struggle with covid (fighting a global pandemic is incompatible with traditional republican weak-government philosophy, and "America First" damages international efforts) but it looks like he's flatly given up now. i think he'll be resigning shortly after the 4th july, this is boring for him now.

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What are workhorse and SHLL gonna do tomorrow? Also thanks to investing in EVs I’ve made a ton of cash. What other EV stocks can I get in on?

>> No.19988467

>>19988454
Did you make that image in microsoft word

>> No.19988468
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>>19988454
more collateral for betting on futies

>> No.19988469

>>19988452
Cutting down advertising cost for sure disguised as Virtue signaling

>> No.19988472

>>19988454
Build a gaming PC that can play Cyberpunk 2077 on high settings

>> No.19988473

>>19988452
Some PR people with calculators thinking they need to cut spending anyway and the positive PR is free from the press release.

Dems actually are more likely to boycott or buy a product based on political alignment belief.

>> No.19988479

>>19988463
>>/pol/
You do understand this isn't the politics board, right Lincoln Project?

>> No.19988487

>>19988463
I always thought he should wait for the convention and announce then that Ivanka is taking his place on the ballot.

>> No.19988490

>>19988371
Oh, so kinda like Jenny Craig not by choice.

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>>19988454
Buy more oil stocks.

>> No.19988511

>>19988452
Saving money on marketing and free publicity with the virtue signaling. I bet they only pulled advertising for a month or so and already have everything in place to turn advertising back on after that.

>> No.19988513
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So I guess Monday is going to be a dead cat bounce and then we crash. The future looks bleak friends. The USA accounts for 25% of worldwide infections, hospitalizations are on the rise again, states are beginning to pull back on reopening and people are still protesting. I want to be a bull but like holy shit the fed has just about used up all their ammo and they can’t keep the markets propped up forever. Either stocks crash or we see hyperinflation.

In the meantime...

What whiskey do you guys drink? I enjoy Bird Dog but I want to try something new.

>> No.19988523

>>19988463
Who cares, fuck off back to >>>/pol/.

>> No.19988527

>>19988465
Idk watch SPACs like a hawk and see what they do.

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>>19988454

JUST VOTE FOR ME, I WILL PRINT WHATEVER YOU NEED

>> No.19988544

>>19988513
The fed most certainly has not used all their ammo. In addition to stimulus checks from congress, the fed has everything listed from >>19988126
to use.

>> No.19988545

>>19988530
Trump probably would have signed the heroes act if passed. It's more up to the senate.

>> No.19988546

>>19987611
covered calls and cash covered puts

>> No.19988551

anyone getting rid of their oil is a fucking moron. U were warned.

>> No.19988566

>>19988546
This is unironically good advice. Just make sure to study a stock before you use these strategies first. Then if you go in, just be patient.

>> No.19988568
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>>19988467
No
Trump assured a 2nd Check

>> No.19988569

>>19988513
Life is literally normal in my city and state

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Q2 reports, hmmmm

>> No.19988589

>>19987611
If I wasnt a totally worthless retard I would have covered calls, protective puts, strangles and straddles, I would also have an amount of divvie stocks and I would play biotechs in a disciplined and logical way

Instead im a retard and I just buy naked calls and average down my losers hoping for a miracle

>> No.19988597

>>19988568
Based

>> No.19988598

>>19988568
https://www.woodtv.com/news/second-stimulus-check-is-very-likely-coming-in-july-u-s-senate-says/

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i went through half a dozen random blue-chip stocks, and compared their earning reports, specifically how reports affected the price.
I was focused on 2019, and less so on 2020, because in 2020 we have covid19 and every spaz loved to preach
>wtf, clown market, fuckin noobs - poor earning reports, but stock went up, go figure, MUH FUNDAMENTALS ARE NOT BEING OBEYED. MUH FUNDAMENTALS
etc
So I was looking at correlation - on one hand how good were the earning compared to estimates, on the other how did the market react short term (few days) or long term.

What I've seen
There is no correlation. Sometimes it went down, sometimes up, sometimes crab, after an equally positive report, randomly. It's even worse longterm, the earnings date doesnt seem like any kind of inflection point. Us humans are prone to look for patterns, so I'm sure world is full of fags who will look at the same statistical noise and believe there's a pattern, and ignore the data it doesnt suit them. But there was no pattern.
So I know that all the fags that complain about this happening in 2020 are fags, basing their expectations on their own bullshit.
So the question is
If earnings report don't make a difference, they why do stonk go up or down?

>> No.19988627

>Americans already rich
>Now they get more $$$
>human behavior dictates that the virus will be ignored more and more until nobody thinks about it
>you can download an app that 100x your money called robinhood

50 million Americans will attempt to get Ferraris this year is my guess and all but probably 10 of those people will fail. This is very bullis.

>> No.19988669

>>19988513
Talisker Scotch whiskey. 10 year old minimum

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>>19988619
There is a pattern its just not quantifiable with such few points of data. Pic related.

>> No.19988688

>>19988619
Sheer force of mental will power

>> No.19988707

>>19988619
be careful or you might unlock your third eye
https://www.openpolitics.com/2020/03/14/was-corporate-profit-growth-inflated-by-financial-engineering/

>> No.19988713
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AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA WHAT THE FUCK STARBUCKS

>> No.19988722

>>19988513
dude. It's not March.
People are losing interest in Covid19 news FAST
>but the number of infected is
yeah, stop, nobody cares. The effect on economy is about lockdowns. The lockdowns are about people's mindset. And people don't want lockdown anymore and have lost most of their interest in covid19. It's politically bad to introduced lockdowns, so there will be no lockdowns, so the crash is... to strong of a word. A big dip, a long-term crab movement.

>> No.19988727

So lets build the /biz/ formula to picking stocks

Or even multiple formulas but lets just compile the methods onto a spreadsheet.

For me, it's stock value relative to market value adjusted for sentiment and volatility, timed according to fiscal periods and catalysts.

>> No.19988734

>>19988513
Laphroaig, Jura, Caol Ila, Talisker, and for something different I can recommend Nikka Whisky from the Barrel.

>> No.19988738

>>19987077
Facebook getting hammered.
Cases going up, media ramping up fearmongering and states doing lockdowns again

>> No.19988759

>>19988738
>fearmongering

My states Governor was peak fear monger doing press briefings every single day for hours now he does it once a week for like 20 minutes

>> No.19988766

we'll have to see what happens to the economy with a shock to advertising spending

hmmm, what will happen, I wonder

>> No.19988770

>>19988722
>but the people will
yeah, stop, nobody cares.

>> No.19988781

>>19988734

Nice list. Add in the octomores if you feel like burning your money too

>> No.19988797

>>19988770
imitation is the sincerest form of flattery, buddy.

>> No.19988803

>>19987077
The ongoing news is very bearish. Nothing that could happen Monday is going to alter the trajectory set last week

>> No.19988807

>>19988727
>For me, it's stock value relative to market value adjusted for sentiment and volatility, timed according to fiscal periods and catalysts.
That’s not a formula that’s a sentence. Write a formula faggot.

>> No.19988808

>>19988766
Americans cant even resist spending money they dont have

Theyre going to spend the absolute fuck out of money they do have

>> No.19988855

I've already profited off WKHS once (7.80 entry and 8.73 sell). What's a good point to jump back in? Looks like a strong company, I'm just wondering if it will dip again.

>> No.19988888

>>19988359
Advertising is pointless right now if stores are closed and consumers aren’t spending. They are using the Facebook boycott as an opportunity to keep investors from running away because of ad budget cuts.

>> No.19988890

>>19988807
stock value = SV
market value = MV
sentiment = S
Volatility = V
Sentiment volatility value = SV


SV+MV/SV = Buy, assuming the fiscal calendar and catalysts are known. Other basics are applied such as buying at close rather than open, and determining the trend for the week.

Determining the meaning of these values is more than I'm going to type out right now without more input from others. SV and MV obviously have huge formulas to determine their values.

>> No.19988909

>>19987666
>they dont use nearly as much pills for depression in europe
they still use a fuckton satan and you know it

>> No.19988916

>>19988888

wasted quints

>> No.19988917

>khanacademy
Very good stuff. I'm half-way through the macroeconomics part. Next, I'll go through the financial portion.

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>>19987618
1. read this:


>In 30 calendar years (1984 through 2013), the Standard & Poor's 500 Index SPX, -2.42% compounded at 11.1%. In that same time, the average mutual fund investor (as defined above) achieved a return of only 3.7%. In other words, actual investors actually earned barely more than a third of what they could have earned.

During the past 20 calendar years, the index was up 9.2%, while the average investor got only 5%. In the past 10 years, the S&P 500 was up 7.4%, and the average investor's return was 5.9%.

Last year, 2013, was far above average for the U.S. stock market: The S&P gained 32.4%. But in the aggregate, investors couldn't seem to settle down and accept these gains. The average investor's return last year was 25.5%, leaving nearly seven full percentage points on the table.

The numbers change from year to year, but every DALBAR report comes to the same conclusion: Investors' emotion-based trading is counterproductive.

Along with many others, I have tried over the years to educate investors about the effects of what DALBAR describes as "knee-jerk reactions to crises and mistakes."


https://www.marketwatch.com/story/how-retirement-investors-hurt-themselves-2014-05-07

2. buy back in hodl forever

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>>19987264
https://goldsilver.com/blog/how-would-gold-perform-in-a-second-stock-market-crash/
It's alleged. I'm taking it with a grain of salt. I think that commodities in general are in for a bump up over shocks and interruptions. I really think being early for raw materials and commodities is not going to hurt too bad. over a 3 year period. being early for banks, industrials, defensive, and basic materials might hurt a lot more. I've rested on going for about 30% miners, 20% defensive and deflationary, 20% on FA plays and hedges, 5% inflationary and tech, and leaving about 25% cash that will be spent on those miners and FA plays.

>> No.19988925

>>19988808
There are still retards out there spendinh like nothing happened. This fools haven't realized yet we're in the beggining of a great depression and jobless gibs will run out soon.
Look at the data, highest savings in history and debt repayments. Allot of americans spending habits is changing to savings mode.

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>>19988888
checked kek
this eggactly what am trying to tell me brother atm
he wants to advertise in zines but it terrible time

>> No.19988947

>>19988855
There will be no more dips... the horse has rested enough and will charge towards the finish line now

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>>19988037
best way to play the game is to not play at all

>> No.19988965

>>19988925
Do you understand exactly how debt would have to be leveraged against the dollar for the yuan to have equal or more confidence? Even at a quadrillion dollar deficit the yuan is regarded as fake hogshit. America basically can have it's entire population be wealthy neets for the next 10 years before it even becomes a threat.

>> No.19988971

>>19988925
Mine absolutely has. Paid almost 20k in debt off and about to just start stacking savings and the brokerage

>> No.19988987

>>19988463
>fighting a global pandemic is incompatible with traditional republican weak-government philosophy
>exceptions can't be made during an emergency, for some reason
> and "America First" damages international efforts
>if america doesn't let china fuck us in the ass, we're divisive
These are the kind of retarded takes you find on twitter. You're shilling here too?

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>>19987369
comovement might rape you. look at the charts. getting in now isn't bad, but for the love of god be ready to average down.

>>19988931
>he wants to advertise in zines but it terrible time
depends on his product. It might be the perfect time.

>> No.19989023

>>19988463
I would be genuinely surprised if this person is American.

>> No.19989034

>>19988589
>strangles and straddles
We're too high for those. The market's going to go straight down for a few weeks.
>buy naked calls
Huh? You can only sell naked calls.

>> No.19989051

>>19989034
Kek straight down to where? Bears are about to get FUCKED. Nobody is even dying from this virus and Jerome Has plenty of firepower left.

>> No.19989055

>>19987666
>they dont use nearly as much pills for depression in europe
In UK they do. If you're lucky your GP will hesitate and suggest other treatments first but generally when someone is at the point of looking for help with depression they'll be in a rut and won't be making real positive changes in their life so it's inevitable. In my early 20s I went through 3 SSRIs and 1 SNRI with a gap somewhere inbetween them and it was never difficult to get prescribed, up the dosage, or try an alternative when one wasn't "effective."

>> No.19989062

>>19989034
I click the buy button on the phone app thats why its a buy stick your terminology up your ass

>> No.19989071

>>19988965
the world will use swiss francs, or the pound or the yen, or danish kroner, or even the bloody euro (puke) before that happens

>> No.19989073

>>19988589
It’s clear that you have no idea what most of those words even mean. You should really stick to just buying and holding stocks man. You’re playing with shit you don’t understand remotely.

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>>19988072
Bear that hates jews here. That'd be great.

>> No.19989086

>>19989071
Okay so use those as your benchmark, were still a few hundred trillion off before that makes sense for any country

>> No.19989089

>>19987834
>If it's true, where does that leave room for the human being
we are what we are
>how can we explain consciousness?
just electrical signals in our brain, its just a colpex computer and our cousciousness is the operating system
>How can we explain (in physical terms) the subjective feeling of what it tastes like to eat a piece of chocolate?
our sense of taste exist so we eat food we need with macro and micronutrients that are good for us
every specific taste is just the sum of some nerves getting triggered by it, some of these connections can also be triggered by different means, this is how we remember tastes for instance
sugar is not that good for us today only because its not scarce at it was in nature anymore and we filter every micronutrient out of it
>Does God exist?
god as in creator of everything?
prohably not because someone would have had to create him too, and someone had to create the creator creator and so on
>or is God something that is more personal and subjective?
god in the sense of a creator would not be personal
>We look at the forest as a means for wood. We look a the river as the means to build a dam. We have become less spiritual and more destructive over time.
the industrial revolution has been a disaster to the human race
humans have always used stuff to build stuff to make live easier tho, its our nature because its the best way to adapt and survive, at least short term

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>>19988589
>averaging down naked calls

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>>19988803
Bearish news are Bullish in clownworld, have you learned nothing in the last five months?

>> No.19989100

>>19989073
Ur mom is gay did u kno that

>> No.19989104

>>19988619
Earnings are already forecast in advance by stock analysts. Reports only matter if they differ significantly. A company could have shit earnings but if analysts thought they were going to be even shittier the stock will rise, and vice versa. A company that is expected to grow by 100% can grow by 50% and it will drop despite doing “well.”

Stocks are TOTALLY UNRELATED to company performance they merely reflect RELATIVE EXPECTATIONS.

>> No.19989114

>>19988965
Dollar will appreciate versus all other monopoly money out there.
The gov will not keep lower/middle class on its payroll for 10 years only select corporations/zombie corps and black people.

>> No.19989124

>>19989114
Agreed, the point is they could afford it and America could maintain it's lifestyle far longer than people realize

>> No.19989132

5 more hours until the gangbang.

>> No.19989138

>>19987036
Limit down or limit up tomorrow?

>> No.19989145

>>19988377
checked. many people I know are socking money away in anticipation of economic hardship over the next year or so. even people at relatively secure, white-collar jobs are worried about layoffs. I don't think the savings numbers are bullish

maybe if there were some kind of catalyst to bring people's confidence back in the economy, but for now the mood is (justifiably) fearful

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>>19989132

>> No.19989155

>>19987036
wtf, im literally listening to 46 and 2 right now as i loaded up some biz

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>>19989132

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the opposite of what /biz/ thinks is what will happen, as usual. monday green. if not i just buy more

>> No.19989193

>>19989138
Hard limit down

>> No.19989196

How fucked would the economy be rn if we didnt have limit downs.

It would have been down 20% everyday back in April if they didn't cockblock it.

>> No.19989206

>>19987666
kek dude europe was known as depressing before that concept even existed in western psychology

>> No.19989207

>>19989146
The Chad Delusion comes from abusing psychedelics.

>> No.19989214

Where can I see asian stock market session? I want to see if it crashes there.

>> No.19989225

>>19989214
https://www.investing.com/indices/indices-futures

Have a blast

>> No.19989226

>>19989207
On that note time to smoke another bowl

>> No.19989227

>>19987618
the lack of going to work every day is making this whole situation worse for all of us.
take some time to get outside anon, do something in nature if you can.

>> No.19989241

>>19989214
It will, but keep in mind Asia has to catch up to US Friday markets so -2% would be green essentially.

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>>19989207
can confirm
no regrets tho

>> No.19989271

so I pulled all my money out and am just going to wait out the crash

then when the crash looks over put money back in

....how is this not what everyone would do?

>> No.19989285

>>19988722
checked.

>People are losing interest in Covid19 news FAST

it's dominating headlines everywhere. especially market news. unless we get new riots or some other major news event, people are going to be talking about nothing but rising infections this week

>The effect on economy is about lockdowns

this is obviously over-simplified. you're right that lockdowns are most directly reflected in market sentiment, but it's a much more complex situation, and has all kinds of implications across industries, and various analysts and strategists are considering multitudes of angles in regards to economic and market outlooks

>people don't want lockdown anymore

headlines I've seen are along the lines of "majority of americans think re-opening is too soon" and variations on that theme

>so there will be no lockdowns, so the crash is... to strong of a word. A big dip

agree with you here. I don't think we'll see anything like a few months ago with sweeping lockdowns, but we will see things like what happened in Texas with elective surgeries and closing bars on Friday. whatever happens, there will be much talk ABOUT lockdowns, in whatever form, over the next week. and markets hate uncertainty. I agree though that we won't see another crash. I think a good dip and some crabbing unless Donnie & Jerome come out swinging tomorrow/soon

>> No.19989288

>>19989271
>how is this not what everyone would do?
because we don't know if or when it will actually crash
that being said I'm mostly in cash too

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>>19989271
and if we pump right now?

>> No.19989295

>>19989271
>not going all in for the tanker pump 2.0, then pulling your money out
ngmi, you cannot be helped

>> No.19989297

>>19989271
Certainty reaches a level that it becomes economic to cheat that certainty, and an equilibrium is met. This is basic game theory bro.

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>>19987306
>Sinophobia is a psyop
No, anti-Sinophobia is a psyop you damn commie

>> No.19989343

>>19989292
>and if we pump right now?
why would we pump when the media is REEEing about the coof and states are reversing their reopening?

>> No.19989358

>>19989343
See
>>19989297

>> No.19989363

>>19989271
Move into gold, gold stocks, or gold etfs. A market crash will ironically send those soaring and it's doubtful they'll lose any value in the near future.

>> No.19989373

>>19989343
People like you should've gotten liquidated in April, how are you still here?

>> No.19989392

>>19989373
because I can't into options and only know how to buy stocks low and sell them high

>> No.19989393

>>19988072
Fuck Jews
Fuck Boomer 401(k)s
Fuck Boomer Real Estate prices

>> No.19989398

>>19989363
That’s now what happened last time. Metals went down just like stocks. Literally nothing was spared.

>> No.19989419

>>1998939
King shit

>> No.19989433

>>19989343
Since when does the market follow the news? Are you 16?

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2008 will look like a fucking joke tomorrow.

>> No.19989448

>>19989433
>Since when does the market follow the news?
so the rona and feb-march drop were completely unrelated?

>> No.19989482

>>19989446
Ur moms a fucking joke today

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>>19989446
+/- .2% up and down
Ends in 301

Mark my words

>> No.19989524

>>19989271
Because we dont know if it dumps again. Chances are its smooth sailing.

>> No.19989527

>>19989504
Ok, I'll mark your words, anonymous anime poster

>> No.19989539

>>19989524
>Chances are its smooth sailing.
that doesn't seem likely at all

>> No.19989545

>>19989504
>crab
>>19989524
>smooth sailing

Ive marked your words and disregarded them within the same moment

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>>19989504
could it be?

>> No.19989574

>>19988920
Based post
Your emotions can predict the market but shouldnt dictate your moves.I

Everyone hates the stock market right now but its absolutely the best place.for capital through 2022

>> No.19989575

>>19989271
Because too many astroturfing jackasses are meme-omg hyperinflation.

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>>19989446
IT GOES IT GOES IT GOES
BALANCE SHEET
DOWN

>> No.19989599

>>19989398
Looking at the fucking data. First leg down, gold dumps. Second leg, gold soars. Same pattern for the last hundred years, including the 70s and 08. Gold Infact rose this week while the markets dumped.
https://goldsilver.com/blog/how-would-gold-perform-in-a-second-stock-market-crash/
There is free money on the table, and retards are just walking by it because "Buy High, Sell Low" dumbassery.

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>>19989089
anon, I..

>> No.19989637

>>19989575
Inflation
Tina

Not really memes. Did you see how big tech behaved?

Big tech led 2019 market
Big tech outperformed the march crash
Big tech led the rebound
Big tech has growth
Big tech isnt levered up
Big tech has massive cash balances and can borrow at cheapest rates in history

The fact they are expensive is a no duh fucking observation.

>> No.19989638

>>19989343
>>19989343
>REEEing about the coof and states are reversing their reopening?
This was already priced in, in march. So it will just be flat or crab for a bit more. It's not new news, we're just going back to where we've already been before
At the worst, market has priced in this economy damage to set us back about 3 to 5 years, which isn't that bad

>> No.19989644

>>19987253
Damn, that girl is cute

>> No.19989649

>>19989599
Look at this gaslighting motherfucker. So it went down with stocks and went back up with stocks. Isn’t that what I fucking said? Gold is at an all time high rn, so yeah buy high, sell low. Fucking dumbass.

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>>19989527
Thanks
>>19989539
>>19989545
>They gonna be on the SNIB side of the SNAB
DONT DO IT!
>>19989563
Yes. Its me. Your brother

>> No.19989659

>>19987077
It is just bears larping, they are so buttmad they didnt buy in March they are trying to meme it red.

>> No.19989667

newd !!

>>19989651


>>19989651


>>19989651


>>19989651

>> No.19989688

>>19989297
So buy TVIX?

>> No.19989690

Market sentiment was at a huge low on friday. Probably similar to marches lows. You have to factor in how much absolute hatred people have for stocks right now. Its nearly impossible to get worse sentiment than right now.

Which is why the market goes higher. Because it exists to rip peoples faces off.

>> No.19989696

>>19989271
most people will miss "the bottom" and maybe miss their entire opportunity. you can cost average back in over a few months or years depending on how long you think the crash will take.

>> No.19989725

>>19989599
checked and based. are you buying miner stocks at all, or just metals themselves?

>> No.19989742

>>19989649
>t. dumbass

>> No.19989752

>>19989599
I have never looked into gold at all. Aren't there ETFs that track the price of gold? Basically just want to collect safe premiums on whatever, and everything in the market looks fucked except for gold. Would be nice to do put credit spreads on a gold etf

>> No.19989754

>>19989271
You can make money as easily during a crash, bro. t. owner of puts.

>> No.19989804

>>19989752
there are gold ETFs that already do some of that
u can look at IAUF and GLDI (GLDO?) if you are interested

>> No.19989838

>>19989752
GLD is the gold ETF, the IV is extremely low so it's probably better to be an option buyer there but to each their own

>> No.19989863

Where can I find industry/sector statistics like revenue growth, Herfindahl index, and margins?

>> No.19990027

Who's ready for circuit breakers in 4 hourrs?

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>>19990027
god damnit baggie don't ruin this for me
I have a bunch of puts

>> No.19990265

>>19987864
Interactive Brokers is pretty good. I've been using them for over a year now. Platform is a little buggy now and than and hard to get used to (it's fairly complicated compared to for example DeGiro), but it gets updated often with bugs ironed out and their customer service is top notch. Their commissions are pretty low if you're NOT buying penny stonks - it's "per share". So, if you buy for example 1 share BRK A than you pay minimum commission of 0,35 USD on a 1 share 263000 USD trade. But if you buy 10'000 shitty penny stock, you pay 0,0035 USD per share making it 35 USD. So, it's good for buying "normally" priced shares, but bad for penny stocks.
It also gives you credit line in your (margin) account roughly the same amount you pay in. The interest is low per year (like 9%?) and it allows you to buy 2x shares you normally would. DeGiro for example has no margin accounts. Day trade you can do roughly 4x your cash, but have to de-leverage before session end because of regulations. They do everything very "by the book" so watch out for day-trade exchange-imposed limit of 4 per week if you're under 25k USD.

>> No.19990355

>>19989373
Its the same type of retard that believe what the media says and cant see through that shit. I am not selling anything. I bought at the bottome of the crash and we are not going back that low.

>> No.19990411

>>19989863
And market share I guess

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