The issue with late stage capitalism

[Anonymous No.19948087]

I often hear that rich people deserve their success because they risked a ton of money. But this is not as fair as it may initially seem.

Let's say a rich ($5M) person opens a pizza shop for $100,000. They have risked $100,000. The idea is that since they risked this much, they deserve the profits it generates.

However, if this pizza shop fails, the rich person will still have $4.9M so it wasn't actually that big of a risk at all. Compare this with someone average who risks their entire net worth ($100k) to open the pizza shop and it fails. They are left with nothing and it was a massive risk.

The key takeaway is that the rich are able to take larger risks without the equivalent risk of failure. One failed business won't put them hungry and out on the street. The rich have it easy and the rich get richer.

[Anonymous No.19948107]

thats nice still voting trump

[Anonymous No.19948403]

>>19948087
how did he get the 5m?

[Anonymous No.19948418]

>>19948087
Thou shalt not covet, anon.

[Anonymous No.19948435]

>>19948087
Yup, it's a problem. Also add in the problem of generational wealth, it kills the "well they worked hard to get rich"-argument. Some (many) were just born rich.

Still economically right though, there's no better alternative

[Anonymous No.19948519]

>>19948435
Why do people work, if not to provide a better life for their children? There is nothing wrong with generational wealth, it's kind of the entire point of society advancing to create better conditions for the next generation. What's actually wrong is the current land ownership and how it's distributed. Since virtually all land at some point in the past was appropriated through the use of illegitimate force, even if you bought land, the guy who sold you the land acquired it through illegitimate means.

[Anonymous No.19948608]

>>19948519
The thing is that generational wealth makes it so that the playfield gets more and more uneven over time, leading us straight to a plutocracy (which is pretty much where we are now, but it can get worse still)

[Anonymous No.19948632]

>>19948519
>There is nothing wrong with generational wealth
There is though. It leads to accumulation of wealth and power within snall related groups, undermining both capitalism and democracy.

[Anonymous No.19948641]

>>19948519
>society advancing to create better conditions for the next generation
What happens once society has been completely enhanced, what's the point of society then?

>Since virtually all land at some point in the past was appropriated through the use of illegitimate force
Possession is a convention of society. There is no such thing as "mine" outside our minds. It never really belonged to anyone in the first place.

[Anonymous No.19948691]

>>19948641
>Possession is a convention of society. There is no such thing as "mine" outside our minds. It never really belonged to anyone in the first place

Woah, so deep brah

[Anonymous No.19948696]

>>19948087
its true but thats literally just scaling up the risk reward utiility curve. of course 100k has more utility for the pooer man, and the risk hes taking is massively off the charts, as well as the potential payoff for him if it works. not so for the millionaire.

[Anonymous No.19948717]

>>19948641
why do you possess your own life then? what allows you to possess your life? its just a figment of your imagination bro. so im going to shoot you in the fucking face and no one will care right?

[Anonymous No.19948721]

>>19948632
>wants to let poor dumb fucks run shit

Cuz that’s what happens when you remove generational ownership and property rights. You’re obviously poor, tho, so you advocAte such things.

[Anonymous No.19948733]

>>19948717
That’s one of the hardest things to deal with Buddhism.

[Anonymous No.19948740]

>>19948107
go fund that wall instead

[Anonymous No.19948806]

>>19948721
The problem is that a plutocracy lead to what you described, peasant revolts, when it gets bad enough

[Anonymous No.19948862]

you're fucking stupid,

Rich people are rich in the first place because of their high IQ.

Anyone has a chance to be rich in american if they're smart/work hard.

[Anonymous No.19948873]

>>19948087
you still have a risk which the individual undertakes - and you need this, you need people to have "skin in the game".

So you need people to have something (actually being able to own something) in order to risk that something - which is another way of describing capitalism, because capitalism is the ownership of things and the rules that comes from ownership.

[Anonymous No.19948884]

>>19948403
from his parents

[Anonymous No.19948898]

>>19948519
>it's kind of the entire point of society advancing to create better conditions for the next generation
explain boomers
explain the destruction of earthchan on so many levels for short term profits

[Anonymous No.19948907]

>>19948898
>white people

[Anonymous No.19948918]

>>19948806
When has a peasant revolt ever led to anything worthwhile? Peasants are poor and stupid for a reason.

[Anonymous No.19948924]

>>19948873
no
capitalism is a system in which u can earn capital without work, just by having capital

[Anonymous No.19948928]

>>19948918
Never, which is my point

[Anonymous No.19948936]

>>19948087
>They have risked $100,000

That person will pay another ~150.000 in taxes only by being rich. At least in most countries.

[Anonymous No.19948955]

>>19948924
yea, it is the ability to own things, private ownership. That i can own the means of production and it is mine.
That is literally capitalism, private ownership and the laws surrounding this private ownership.

[Anonymous No.19948960]

>>19948087
DMM solves this

[Anonymous No.19948978]

>>19948107

[Anonymous No.19948981]

>>19948955
>yea, it is the ability to own things, private ownership.
no
to stay with the pizzeria, if a pizzamaker owns a pizzeria and bakes pizza there himself he can do that without capitalism
capitalism is not the same as private ownership
capitalism means being able to take capital gains
its the legal system that allows a rich person to buy a pizzeria and let others do all the work while collecting rent

[Anonymous No.19948987]

>>19948717
In theory, you don't possess your own life either. You didn't do anything to deserve to be born. Or to deserve a body. It was handed to you.

[Anonymous No.19949000]

>>19948740
It's already being built amigo.

[Anonymous No.19949011]

>>19948862
Why isn't every person with a PhD a millionaire? Why do real estate salesmen that would fail college Calculus make a ton of money? People work hard for $50k a year. After taxes and living expenses that's a surplus of $10k a year. How long will it take them to get rich?

[Anonymous No.19949012]

>>19948987
i absolutely posess my body, i controll it with my mind

[Anonymous No.19949023]

>>19948884
Ours is not an individualistic society, ours is a tribal society. Your success is determined by the success of your tribe (currently determined by close relatives).
The sooner that you understand that the sooner you will have a shot at making it. Knows who adopted this mindset thousands of years ago? Jews. And that is why they always win.

[Anonymous No.19949034]

>>19948987
imagine thinking people who think like this dont deserve to be put up against a wall

[Anonymous No.19949040]

>>19948981
s
Resultados da pesquisa
Dicionário
cap·i·tal·ism
/ˈkapədlˌizəm/
Aprenda a pronunciar
noun
an economic and political system in which a country's trade and industry are controlled by private owners for profit, rather than by the state.

Stop trying to destroy the meaning of words and concepts just because you want to hate something.

[Anonymous No.19949077]

>>19948087
An actually good take? I thought this was /biz/.

Americans are so retarded that they don't realise the game is stacked against them, and that the chances of climbing to the top are super slim.
/biz/ adds another layer of retardation on top of this, by thinking they can climb to the top by gambling with internet Chuck E. Cheese tolkens.

[Anonymous No.19949079]

>>19948981
If he owns the pizzeria, he also owns the profit it may generate.
Capitalism is private ownership, it is the ability to own something including any profit that comes from the ownership.

[Anonymous No.19949084]

>>19949012
I control my arm so I am able to wave it and stop it from moving. This is what is meant by control.
Let's apply that to thoughts. I control my thoughts so I am able to stop having thoughts.

Try that for 10 seconds and you will fail. There is a reason most people fail meditation their first few times, it is because they think they are in control of their thoughts.

[Anonymous No.19949085]

>>19949023
yes
>>19949040
>Dicionário
>Characteristics central to capitalism include private property and the recognition of property rights, capital accumulation, wage labor,...
>wage labor
yes, you cant have capitalism without private property, but you can very well have private property without capitalism

[Anonymous No.19949101]

>>19949034
Why would anyone deserve anything other than your opinion of what they deserve?

[Anonymous No.19949103]

>>19949079
thats a fucking propaganda definition, you can have private ownership without capitalism
>>19949084
i am my toughts

[Anonymous No.19949118]

>>19949084
the only thing you are correct about not possessing is a good opinion or an above average level of intelligence. are you like 16 and just got into philosophy and far east religions? fucking retarded baby. majority of people innately know youre a fucking retard. these kinds of ideas are pure evil

[Anonymous No.19949130]

>>19949077
Are you stupid? The top, by definition, will consist of a tiny percentage of the population.
The average middle-class american in 2019 lived better than the average millionaire in 1969.

>>19949085
You can't have private property without capitalism, if the government or an angry mob tells you what to do with your shit, it is not yours.

[Anonymous No.19949133]

>>19949103
Despite not being able to stop your thoughts so you would not have control of yourself.

So you are saying you are your mind and not your body?

[Anonymous No.19949135]

>>19949085
How can you have private ownership without capitalism?
You own the means of production and you therefor also owns the capital that arise from this.. there is no other way, that is capitalism.

[Anonymous No.19949138]

>>19949101
because your reductionist and materialistic opinion of people and ownership cheapens life and rejects divinity/sanctity of human life. your ideas get people killed and propagate evil taken to their logical conclusion.

[Anonymous No.19949157]

>>19949118
Are you gonna keep up with the ad hominems (like a 16 year old) or actually contribute to discussion

[Anonymous No.19949165]

>>19949138
>your ideas get people killed
Literally the opposite. Western Judeo-Christian ideology has killed far more than Eastern Buddhist ideology.

[Anonymous No.19949167]

>>19948087
The state should just hand out loans to business startups with printed money. They put forth a pitch which is evaluated in feasibility and if it fails despite good effort all the debt is written off. That way you max out potential economic stimulation, excess profits go back to the common pool (the state) and you get to own the product of your own labour without excess risk.

[Anonymous No.19949178]

>>19949138
>the argument is wrong because I don't like the conclusion

[Anonymous No.19949183]

>>19949130
>You can't have private property without capitalism, if the government or an angry mob tells you what to do with your shit, it is not yours.
you can only protect the stuff you use yourself, which is the system im fond of, because you are there to protect it
funny enough some people 2000 years ago thought exactly the same
>https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Matthew%2021:33-45&version=NKJV
>>19949135
brainlet
>>19949040
>Stop trying to destroy the meaning of words and concepts just because you want to hate something.
>Capitale emerged in the 12th to 13th centuries to refer to funds, stock of merchandise, sum of money or money carrying interest.
>>19949133
i am my mind and i own my body

[Anonymous No.19949193]

>>19949167
>hand out loans
Surely this won't get exploited by corrupt individuals!

[Anonymous No.19949196]

>>19949130
>Are you stupid? The top, by definition, will consist of a tiny percentage of the population.
Of course it does. That's why Americans are retarded that they think "anyone can be a millionaire if they work hard".
>The average middle-class american in 2019 lived better than the average millionaire in 1969.
Better in what sense? Because they got iPhones now?
The average middle class is in debt up to their eyeballs. That was certainly not the case for the middle class in the 60s, much less the millionaires in the 60s.

[Anonymous No.19949206]

>>19949193
It will, but if it passes pre and post evaluations then the institution is the only thing you need to fix.

[Anonymous No.19949207]

>>19949165
imagine thinking ad hominems cant be used in a debate. faggot. go read the pol banner again and tell yourself you're a big brained logical debater while everyone here laughs at you

>Western Judeo-Christian ideology has killed far more than Eastern Buddhist ideology

simply because a people is totally ineffectual and cannot project power does not make their religion superior to the west's. the history of the west is inherently christian, but westerners are still human beings. they are looked at under a microscope precisely because they achieved so much. and the positive things they did acheive were because of a closeness to and understanding of the divine through jesus christ.

[Anonymous No.19949209]

>>19948087
Test

[Anonymous No.19949210]

>>19949183
Let's say I create an exact replica of your body atom for atom. Would you care if I shocked them instead of someone else? Why would you?

[Anonymous No.19949239]

>>19949210
i would only care because i would have the perfect ally in that copy of myself

[Anonymous No.19949256]

>>19949207
>go read the pol banner
This is /biz/ not /pol/
>while everyone here laughs at you
No one is laughing except brainlets that haven't contemplated life or cowards who aren't willing to let go of attachments

>closeness to and understanding of the divine through jesus christ.
Deluded Christfag. Figures. In fact, everyone with an IQ over 100 is laughing at you.

[Anonymous No.19949271]

>>19949239
Why do psychoactive substances affect your mind if it is apparently separate from your body?

[Anonymous No.19949287]

>>19949271
it is not seperate from my body, my mind is the result of the workins of my brain, but as i use my mind to formulate this sentence its again clear for me that i am my mind

[Anonymous No.19949294]

>>19949183
You don't believe the dictionary definition of capitalism, you have not given any explanation of what capitalism is.
you believe you can have private ownership without capitalism, so you obviously have never even read Karl Marx or any other literature on this topic and have failed to understand the logical outcome of private ownership and how it means private ownership of the means of production and the products it produce.

You clearly have a very limited understanding of what you are talking about, which begs the question why are you even talking about "late stage capitalism" if you know nothing about what you are talking about?

[Anonymous No.19949302]

>>19949256
>brainlets that haven't contemplated life or cowards who aren't willing to let go of attachments
>hes spouting far east meditation, solpsism and airport bookstore self help

you are clearly someone who has never truly contemplated Christianity. you are so rooted in the material you need to seek pathetic grasps at spirituality from people who have nothing to do with you. did daddy make you go to church growing up anon? im sorry, maybe some day you can approach the topic like a man

[Anonymous No.19949337]

>>19949183
>you can only protect the stuff you use yourself, which is the system im fond of
>funny enough some people 2000 years ago thought exactly the same
Yes, and their worldview got crushed and outcompeted.
You can still do capitalism while being inefficient and stupid, that does not change what it means to have a capitalistic economy.

>>19949196
Easier work, less hours worked and access to more and better goods/services with the fruits of said labor.
That is the measure of wealth.

[Anonymous No.19949343]

>>19949287
Your clone has the exact same workings in their brain. They are essentially you and believe that they are you. In fact, there would be nothing distinguishing you from your clone. By definition, your clone is you.

[Anonymous No.19949351]

>>19949294
>you have not given any explanation of what capitalism is.
being able to take capital gains
>you believe you can have private ownership without capitalism
yes, i can protect stuff with my hands, with blank steel and with accelerated objects, so i can own that stuff i protect till my death
>You clearly have a very limited understanding of what you are talking about
>capitalism = private ownership
>private ownership without capitalism
>NOOOOO U CANT HAVE THAT !!11!!!!
read the link i dropped, christianity is an example for a system in which you can have private ownership without the ability to take capital gains

[Anonymous No.19949376]

>>19949302
>never truly contemplated Christianity
Explain it logically then. Oh wait, you can't because there is no logic behind it. Imagine believing a dogmatic collection of stories from centuries ago in 2020. If you interpret it literally then you are a retard. If you interpret it metaphorically then none of that shit is true and only the moral of the stories remains. You're lightyears ahead if you just avoid the 7 deadly sins instead of all the other bullshit Christians believe.

[Anonymous No.19949383]

>>19949337
>Easier work, less hours worked and access to more and better goods/services with the fruits of said labor.
>That is the measure of wealth.
In that case, your supporting my point.
The median salary in the US has not kept kept up with inflation. People are working longer hours, because their hourly wage has effectively decreased.
They go into huge debt just for education and healthcare.
Just because there's new tech gadgets, it doesn't mean they have more leisure time and a less stressful life.

[Anonymous No.19949387]

>>19949343
nice take from entry level philosophy. tell me, do clones exist anywhere or is this an extremely dumb intellectual exercise?
>duuuhhh hurrr what if like there was another me???!!!! woah!!! then property doesnt exist!!

>>19949376
you literally mediate you fucking fag hahaha

[Anonymous No.19949389]

>>19949351
>being able to take capital gains
That is implied in the ownership you dimwit, if you own a tree, you own the apples it produces, if you own a pizzeria, you own the pizzas that is produced in your pizzeria.
Private ownership obviously also entails the produce that comes from this, otherwise you don't really own it.

i refuse to believe that anyone can be so stupid that they can't grasp the concept of private ownership.

[Anonymous No.19949399]

>>19949337
>Yes, and their worldview got crushed and outcompeted.
by manipulation through the church who wanted to take capital gains so they dont have to work themselves
>>19949343
>believe that they are you.
no, they would belive they are themselves but have the perfect allies in me and other clones
>By definition, your clone is you
no, they may be the same but not the same thing
>german has actually two different terms for that, "das gleiche" and "das selbe", dunno if it translates to english properly

[Anonymous No.19949413]

Why do you oversimplify? $100k wherever it comes from is the investment. If you can wield $100k, great. If you can’t, why should anyone care? There is no benefit to considering how much of a risk anyone took. Rewards are according to performance, not risk. You have a simplistic idea of risk vs reward here.

[Anonymous No.19949415]

>>19949351
>private ownership without the ability to take capital gains
Then you no longer own it, imbecile.
The fucking shitstained plebs in the parable stole the labor of another man, murdered his family and workers, and in any just system should be punished by death.

[Anonymous No.19949462]

>>19949389
what im saying is that you can only really own the stuff that you work yourself becouse you can protect it yourself while everything else is only "yours" by the grace of some entity
what you are doing is, if i understand it right, defining private ownership as something like
>stuff others protect for me
while it just means stuff you own yourself
you sound to me like a major victim of propaganda and mental dissonance
>>19949415
these old texts have some kind of very basic, physical truth to them as the people back then werent oversocialised as much as people in national states are now, due to national state propaganda
>NOOOOO Only the state should be allowed to be violent
you shall not kill for example gets interpreted today as
>you shall not kill under any circumstances
when it was totally obvious for the people back then ther where good reasons to kill people, for them it meant
>dont kill for fun or other minor reasons
>The fucking shitstained plebs in the parable stole the labor of another man
the man left his vineyard himself to do something else, he didnt get expelled
he could have stayed and worked together with the plebs, even in a higher position and take more of the vineyards gains

[Anonymous No.19949485]

>>19948087
COMMUNISM = MURDER

[Anonymous No.19949513]

>>19949462
By your own moronic logic, someone only deserves to hold something as long as he can personally keep it by force, even if confronted by mass numbers - in fact, this mob is justified in taking your shit if it serves the "greater good".
You also use your pedophile fanfiction to justify theft and murder, so, ultimately, by your own rules, it is total OK for me and my friends to knock you out and sell your organs for profit, since our ability to overpower you gives legitimacy to our claim to your innards.
You should know better than to flaunt them around when so many people need kidneys and stuff...

[Anonymous No.19949533]

>>19948087
Read Marx you literal midwit

[Anonymous No.19949538]

>>19949387
>you literally mediate you fucking fag hahaha
I actually don't and most Buddhists didn't, its a more modern trend.
But...you literally pray you fucking fag hahaha

>is this an extremely dumb intellectual exercise
It's about learning more about experience and understanding of the self.

If we're going entry philosophy, if you don't think identity is an illusion you don't understand the ship of theseus.

>>19949399
I suggest reading any neuroscience book. Your brain configuration creates the notion of your self. Whatever character you are playing in society doesn't have a soul or exist apart from the brain. If the brain is wired exactly the same in the clone, the clone is going to think they are you.

[Anonymous No.19949548]

>>19949413
Any argument I've heard justifying capitalism comes to "the person took a risk with their capital"

[Anonymous No.19949560]

>>19949538
Clones don't work like that, though, and there are more chances of rearranging atoms this way being impossible than not.

[Anonymous No.19949571]

>>19949548
Then you are being disingenuous. The only argument that you need to justify capitalism is "Private property is a basic right".

[Anonymous No.19949586]

>>19949571
>Private property is a basic right
Source? Your ass. It is only so because society agrees to it.

>>19949560
The whole point is to analyze your selfhood not ponder how to create the clone.

[Anonymous No.19949630]

>>19949586
By denying private property as a basic right an individual is basically saying that he has no right to his own body (which is private property) and therefore can be enslaved.
See how far you can go defending that.

[Anonymous No.19949674]

>>19949533
this

[Anonymous No.19949678]

>>19949630
That's some room temperature IQ reasoning

[Anonymous No.19949680]

>>19949630
>therefore can be enslaved.
Here's the flaw in your circular logic. Slave would have to be private property of someone else. But if the belief of private property is gone then no one can have slaves which are private property.

[Anonymous No.19949688]

>>19949630
Private property is different than personal property.
Private property are things that earn you a revenue, like a factory or a farm.
Personal property is your own body or your toothbrush.

There's a lot of academic discussion where the line lies. And to be honest I'm not that interested in it.

But be aware that these differences exist.

[Anonymous No.19949693]

>>19948519
You are sounding a lot like a kike desu

[Anonymous No.19949738]

>>19949586
>Source? Your ass. It is only so because society agrees to it

This is true for literally EVERYTHING related to human concepts. The reason I can't just murder you is that we've agreed that is bad

[Anonymous No.19949753]

>>19949680
You fail to understand what basic a right is.
To make it easier for your limited intellect to absorb, consider this:
Having lamborghinis is not a basic right, and yet, a few people have them.

>>19949688
The personal property that you want to describe is nothing more than bullshit marxist propaganda, a clear example of doublethink designed to give them an out when faced with very logical and practical questions pertaining slavery.

[Anonymous No.19949756]

>>19948519
this
government forced takeover my ancestor's land but call itself capitalist and meritocracy

[Anonymous No.19949765]

>>19948087
maybe rewarding successful businessmen with the opportunity to take more risk is a good thing for society

[Anonymous No.19949770]

>>19949756
Ergo, the government is evil and should be destroyed.

[Anonymous No.19949791]

>i took the obvious bait

[Anonymous No.19949825]

>>19948987
>you need to go back

[Anonymous No.19949842]

>>19949513
>someone only deserves to hold something as long as he can personally keep it by force
someone only deserves to hold something as long as he can personally try to keep it by force
>it is total OK for me and my friends to knock you out and sell your organs for profit, since our ability to overpower you gives legitimacy to our claim to your innards.
humans are incredibly good at killing, this is the reason the nap has inner thruth, dont harm me and others wont harm you
>in fact, this mob is justified in taking your shit if it serves the "greater good"
no, if the mob trys to take from someone defending his home some of them will die, as long as your wealth has only some reasonable extent they wont risk it
>You also use your pedophile fanfiction
what is pedophile fanfiction about it?
the koran is pedo fanfic because muhammad was a warlord that wrote it for personal gains, without any real philospophical claim
josef married an underage girl so she is supported and doesnt have to go hungry, but he didnt fuck her
even after she got pregnant by a lover her age he still supported her as he knew he was to old for her, and kept the lie open so she doesnt get stoned - this is the true meaning of the virgin marry story
>>19949538
>If the brain is wired exactly the same in the clone, the clone is going to think they are you.
doesnt seem to translate then, sad
the clone will think he is himself, but he wont think of himself as a clone
the clone will not think he is being me, as from his perspective i am another individuum that is just like him without being actually him
he will think of me just like i think of him
>>19949560
we are not talking about a clone but an exact copy, like a startrek transporter that materializes the same person twice

[Anonymous No.19949852]

>>19949770
i don't know... really
https://youtu.be/3dBaEo4QplQ

[Anonymous No.19949960]

>>19948862

Please, tell me more about Paris Hilton’s high IQ

[Anonymous No.19949971]

>>19949738
The reason you won't murder me is the mental discomfort that will follow. Not talking about just the guilt but the state of your livelihood in the prison thereafter. See sociopathic dictators, they have no guilt and they don't face repercussions so they murder as they please, since it doesn't lead to any mental discomfort.

[Anonymous No.19949978]

>>19949842
>if the mob trys to take from someone defending his home some of them will die

Go ahead and explain to me how exactly are you killing any part of the mob, by yourself, with your sharpened sticks.

>urr durr muh gunz
No no no, making firearms is a complex business that demands logistics and investments way more complex than "what I can personally try to keep by force" .
So, you only get what you can make, which in your case, is a pointy stick (and I am being generous, if you were to be given credit based on the mental acumen displayed in this thread, you would be left with a crude stick ).

>>19949852
I go to your home without permission, raid your larder, make food that I like and then return 20% of what I made using your ingredients to you.
You tolerate some of the things that I made, hate this and that, and maybe even like the cake. Are my actions moral?

>>19949960
Anything above 100 is high in the US.

[Anonymous No.19949985]

>>19949753
Slaves = private property
No private property = no slavery
How can't you see this?

[Anonymous No.19950015]

>>19949985
Just go ahead and place loaves of bread over your ears, you are too dumb to be helped.

[Anonymous No.19950016]

>>19949842
I stole the star trek transporter and created a clone of you. Who now owns your house and can fuck your wife? How can anyone tell either of you apart?

[Anonymous No.19950050]

>>19948519
Only the poorfag falls in love. The rich plays chess
Stop watching princess movies

[Anonymous No.19950057]

>>19948087
kys

[Anonymous No.19950168]

>>19949978
>Go ahead and explain to me how exactly are you killing any part of the mob, by yourself, with your sharpened sticks.
push sharpened stick into one of the mob duh
>complex business that demands logistics and investments way more complex than "what I can personally try to keep by force"
>(((investments)))
it needs coordinated work and not someone who collects rent
people can work together for gains that are shared
also pic related, selfmade african guns
all you need is cast a bit of metal, a bit of sulfur, charcoal, grass and your own piss, guns got made by gunsmiths that owned their own workshops before the industrial revolution
>>19950016
i own my house and can fuck my imaginery waifu, he thinks the same
we would work together so we dont have to live together because that shits annoying
nobody could tell us apart until we start to make different experiences in live
>others might just try to kill their copy

[Anonymous No.19950250]

land value tax will solve every problem in america

[Anonymous No.19950267]

>>19949985
based

[Anonymous No.19950302]

>>19949971
>The reason you won't murder me is the mental discomfort that will follow. Not talking about just the guilt but the state of your livelihood in the prison thereafter. See sociopathic dictators, they have no guilt and they don't face repercussions so they murder as they please, since it doesn't lead to any mental discomfort

Yes, and the reason I'll go to prison is that we've decided that murder is bad. Trust me, I'd have zero mental discormfort from murdering annoying fucks personally (not saying that you are one, I don't know you)

[Anonymous No.19950315]

>>19948107
Fpbp

[Anonymous No.19950317]

>>19950016
Not him, but I am married and my wife has a higher sex drive than me. He's me so we could just share her and give her the daily fucking that she wants. We could take turns working as well, or have a dual income.

[Anonymous No.19950352]

>>19950168
>the deluded fuck thinks that he is going to hurt anyone with primitive weapons when outnumbered
>the moron has no idea of how economically complex even the most basic guns are
You can go ahead and pick a pair of loaves for yourself and join the other idiot.

>>19950250
Yes, rich people will flee the country even faster than they are already fleeing and the unskilled masses can starve and kill themselves faster, thereby speeding civil war and the downfall of its socialist government.
Or the truly rich will just a find a loophole to not pay that shit while the middle-class get buttfucked harder, rioting quicker.

>>19950302
Murder is actually very pleasurable, even to neurotypical people, when they believe it to be justified.

>>19950317
You could also steal the secret clone scanner and use its technology to find out who the real one is.
When presented with "magic" the best question for the problem usually is "magic", after all, if such a powerful resource is already made available in the mental exercise, you should use it.