/biz/ - Business & Finance

[Anonymous No.19944462]

NOOOOOO I PAID $250,000 FOR MY DEGREE YOU CAN'T JUST HIRE PEOPLE BASED ON THEIR SKILLS!!!! I AM MORE WELL-ROUNDED THAN THEY ARE !!!!!

[Anonymous No.19944478]

>>19944462
absolutely based

[Anonymous No.19944485]

Holy based, I have a master's degree but I acknowledge that preferential hiring for degrees is completely asinine and borderline feudal

[Anonymous No.19944664]

>>19944462
Amazing. Its about time we get back to a meritocracy workplace.

[Anonymous No.19944818]

>>19944462

LOL HE IS RETARDED LMAO

AND HAS NO DEGREE OR INTELLIGENCE. ONLY BULLSHITTING SKILLS

[Anonymous No.19944900]

>>19944462
When will trump forgive my student loans?

[Anonymous No.19944943]

>>19944818
Trump has a degree from Wharton at Upenn

[Anonymous No.19944961]

Most employers already do this lmao
Master's degree or PhD without practical experience is unhireable

[Anonymous No.19944971]

I don’t know why we aren’t already doing this. A degree is barely even a sign of merit these days. Some of the most worthless people can chug their way through college and come out just as worthless as they were when they went in.

[Anonymous No.19944992]

>>19944943

army school? ok

[Anonymous No.19945009]

>>19944992
Nigga are you retarded

[Anonymous No.19945014]

>>19944992
Sheer arrogance

[Anonymous No.19945023]

>yeah bro I watched some youtube videos on how to be a surgeon

[Anonymous No.19945032]

>>19944462
this isnt a real EO, lol. alphabet agencies won't even hire you if you haven't completed an undergrad education.
>>19944992
based retard

[Anonymous No.19945049]

>>19945023
Are you white?
Welcome aboard

[Anonymous No.19945106]

I got hired for a wage equivalent to if I had a degree.
Put on resume that I spent 3 years in college (dropped out 1-year off). Had a great interview, we talked about numbers in the end, agreed on a range, and I finally said it "I don't have a diploma btw, is that a problem?" My boss was kinda taken back a little but said no and hired me later on.

[Anonymous No.19945135]

>>19944462
Wait, so you're telling me that all those collage girl's are going to get fuck tomorrow when the president signs this?

[Anonymous No.19945216]

>>19944462
>$250,000
Jesus Christ, is that really the average cost for a degree these days?
Does food and boarding go into it?

[Anonymous No.19945233]

>>19944462
Jews will still practice anti-white hiring practices. This is just to make retard maga niggers think they are winning. That’s all Trump is a sedative for the white race. He never actually comes through on his promises

[Anonymous No.19945234]

good. its "bad" for me, as new hires can skip 5 years of indoctrination camp but campuses have become so evil, the damage they inflict is a blight on society.
also i have run into way too many idiots with masters of CS but they struggle with visual studio basics or programming concepts. also in my school I was taught by an OOP evangelist and my first business programs were disasters as a result of listening to his advice
but this is really less about new hires and more about hobbyists or even career workers who never got a degree.

i'd much prefer a two year "camp" over a 4-5 year BS. 9 weeks is garbage though

[Anonymous No.19945239]

>>19944462
based

[Anonymous No.19945241]

>>19944971
Because it's hard for the society to let go of the idea that college equals high education, wisdom and prestige, since the decline of the college system is a relatively recent thing.

[Anonymous No.19945261]

>>19945241
if you aren't learning on your own time
though the internet, you're behind
also radical leftism has largely over taken college campuses
this is a great move for the country

[Anonymous No.19945338]

>muh degree, hire me

Trump is so fucking based guys.

[Anonymous No.19945366]

>>19945023
Honestly we should go back to apprenticeships for everything. I would trust the kid who learned surgery for 20 years with his dad than some dumb ass pajeet that went to medical school REAL SHIT

[Anonymous No.19945452]

>>19945023
>Yeah bro I went to college to be surgeon you can trust me I got this bro just go to sleep

[Anonymous No.19945456]

>>19945009
>Wharton

oh, sorry. elite MBA

not much better lmao

[Anonymous No.19945607]

>>19945452
If your patients don't survive the market will soon put you out of business.

If they do well on the other hands you might find a niche for uninsured people, as hood doctor or for the cartels.
Of course most doctors working will still have degrees but some nurses might perform almost as good in like 80-90% of procedures.

[Anonymous No.19945654]

>>19945234
I did two years at a community college for programming after a 4 year business BS. Wish I never went to business school. Have a software engineer interview next week. The second interview. What is an OOP evangelist? Lol

[Anonymous No.19945702]

>>19945261
I fully concur, I just pointed out that it takes time for the society to wrap it's mind around the fact that college education isn't exactly as big a thing as it was even decades ago let alone century or two. Mind you, I still don't think it's completely worthless, especially in more theoretical areas of STEM where the online material gets more scarce, but with the right mindset a person can have the skills and knowledge equivalent to a college degree simply by using the net. Doing it solo isn't for everyone though, so college isn't going anywhere.

[Anonymous No.19945707]

>>19945654
They were willing to overlook the fact that my BS is not computer science because I answered all the technical questions correctly

[Anonymous No.19945726]

>>19945607
Imagine believing this is how it works. American medical apparatus is far from a 'market'

It's heavily subsidized in almost every way except for the fact that patients who are too young/too 'rich' to apply for Medicaid/Medicare have to pay out of pocket. But other than that hospitals can do all kinds of dirty shit and get government grants and subsidies and loans. Just look at all of the hospitals trying to inflate Covid numbers to get government checks.

[2 scoops !!DU22SQMj6dQ No.19946658]

>>19944462
NNOOOOO. YOU CAN'T JUST DO THAT. YOU CAN'T JUST HIRE PEOPLE BASED ON SKILLS. NNNOOOOOOOO. I GOT A PHD IN NIGGER-OLOGY. YOU CAN'T JUST HIRE A PERSON WITH SKILLS. RRRRRREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

[Anonymous No.19946762]

>>19944462
It’s really because colleges are compromised by the CCP. Open secret

[Anonymous No.19946771]

>>19944462
100% based juice

[Anonymous No.19946803]

>>19944462
college is a scam and a meme

[Anonymous No.19946813]

Completing a bachelor's, master's or PhD is more impressive than any "skill" you can learn off YouTube in 10 minutes

[Anonymous No.19946895]

>>19944462
Wait this is fucking based.

[Anonymous No.19946922]

>>19946813
>degreecucks really believe this is the only alternative

[Anonymous No.19946934]

>>19946813
How exactly? All they do is sign up for a lot of debt. At least watching YouTube takes some effort.

[Anonymous No.19946950]

>>19946813
t. someone who has no skills and only a piece of paper with their name on it to say you're a special little guy.

> Seethe.

[Anonymous No.19946956]

>>19945366
lol you really don’t understand the rigor of med school. You have to do a shit ton of training and get a bunch of certifications, do residencies, and then you finally get to work as a GP or a specialist. I would not in 100 years accept a doctor by trade (aka witch doctor) over a person smart and dedicated enough to get through med school. Then again, I’m a leaf so it might be different here

[Anonymous No.19946958]

>>19946813
Not true at all. A person would waste 4+ years of their time while accumulating debt while some young person could start learning to produce or fix something in 10 minutes and possibly start earning money in way less time than 4+ years. It's not the piece of paper that does the job, it's you the person.

[Anonymous No.19947004]

>>19944992
>army school
Not sure if actually retarded or bait

[Anonymous No.19947006]

As someone who holds a mere Masters and several overseas certificates, I agree. While working as a TA, I would make meagre earnings while doing the majority of the work; I marked everything, entered grades, and ran the office hours + tutorial that would actually help the students pass the exams. It rustled my jimmies so much that the doc was making bank while I was a way better, way more knowledgeable, teacher. F U C K

[Anonymous No.19947029]

>>19944664
The workplace is mediocre. Just people paid 250k to get there. I make as much as PhDs and I dropped out with an associate's. STEM field.

[Anonymous No.19947042]

>>19944992
So this is the power of American college graduates...

[Anonymous No.19947056]

I applied to UC Booth for my MBA, got accepted, and start in fall. No scholarship. Suddenly regret.

[Anonymous No.19947189]

>>19944664
in a meritocracy trump would be a janitor not the president

[Anonymous No.19947221]

I know people here hate colleges but, I've been in charge or involved in the hiring process of my company for the last 6 years and whether or not you have a college degree has only ever played a very minimal role. Only when weeding out initial prospects for very niche positions. Aside from that hiring has always been based off of portfolio work, demonstrable skills, and interviews.

There's never been an instance where two people come in, one with a degree and a shit portfolio, vs another that comes in with no degree and a great portfolio, and we pick the former.

Honestly, whether or not you interview well is more important than having a degree for most positions.

[Anonymous No.19947233]

>>19947221
my portfolio is mostly btc

[Anonymous No.19947234]

>>19947221
what a dumb fuck tattoo

[Anonymous No.19947261]

>>19947056
Have you paid your tuition?
If not, walk away from that shit
All you learn in MBA is networking

[Anonymous No.19947269]

>>19944462
Is that not what all companies do anyway? Any retard has a degree nowadays, that's why they all demand 5 years of experience for an entry level job.

[Anonymous No.19947281]

>>19947234
what? her heart tells her to be semi naked in a kitchen... that's a women after my taste

[Anonymous No.19947303]

>>19947261
i disagree the most important skill a uni gives you is processing large amount of information quickly and learning efficiently with confidence. networking is a fucking meme.

[Anonymous No.19947320]

>>19947006
wage has never been about work done, but bargaining power.

[Anonymous No.19947373]

>>19944462
From personal experience, every employer I've talked to has preferred experience over education

[Anonymous No.19947566]

THIS IS JUST A TRANSPARENT ATTEMPT TO HIRE MORE WHITE MALES INSTEAD OF WOMEN AND MINORITIES!

[Anonymous No.19947599]

>>19944664
This

[Anonymous No.19947632]

>>19947566
Yez

[Anonymous No.19947654]

>>19944462
BASED Trump looking out for the working class.

[Anonymous No.19947681]

>>19947566
How so? White males are pretty discriminated against these days, the Fed is still going to prioritise minorities and women.

[Anonymous No.19947686]

>>19944992

[Anonymous No.19947720]

>>19944462
So will they start hiring hobby programmers who don't even have a degree, over BS Computer Science students who can't code properly?

Then eventually, coding will be recognized as a trade, like welding or plumbing, just as it should be. And everyone will look back when people got degrees for that and laugh.

[Anonymous No.19947759]

>>19945654
and i OOP, a sksksk

[Anonymous No.19947849]

>>19945023

If my options are
>someone with a passion for medicine has spent a lifetime gathering that information and learning from good sources

vs

>some indian who bought a degreee
or
>some kid who had the right opinions in uni with pink hair

[Anonymous No.19948874]

>>19947234
TATTOOS ARE DISGUSTING AND STUPID AS A RULE.
BUT THIS IS LEGIT DUMB

might as well pick any random saying or "truism" for a tatto like

"an apple a day keeps the doctor away"
or
"remember to stay hydrated" lol

[Anonymous No.19949539]

>>19944992
fucking retard

[Anonymous No.19949557]

>>19944462
Zoomers and millenials BTFO

[Anonymous No.19949559]

>>19944462

Statistically speaking this BTFO modern womyn and their worthless HR degrees.

[Anonymous No.19949564]

>>19944462
Wow, this is an actual master strategic move to undermine the Cathedral. Trump gains a few points in my book.

[Anonymous No.19949584]

>>19944992
now this is good fucking bait

[Anonymous No.19949587]

Indians with 3 fake masters BTFO

[Anonymous No.19949593]

What “skills”? How to write an email? That’s all most degreed jobs are.

[Anonymous No.19949731]

>>19945654
>did two years at a community college for programming
>Have a software engineer interview
>What is OOP
Is this bait? Fuck this gay earth I'm so glad I got into crypto and could afford to drop out.

>>19945607
Peak lolbert. This is not how it works, kiddo.

[Anonymous No.19949972]

>>19945261

Why would you want a career where you have to keep learning on your own time?

This human life is way too short for that. If we lived to be 300 years old, then sure I could see it, but with only 80 years here, why would you want to do something that requires you to spend any of your free time learning more? You're going to be dead and gone in a very short time.

[Anonymous No.19949995]

>>19944992
This isn't bait, you just should have been aborted.

[Anonymous No.19950006]

Isn't most of what you pay for the assessment and certification? Like yeah you could learn that shit at the library but who is going to verify your competency to some widely accepted standard?

[Anonymous No.19950111]

>>19944462
holy fucking based, i wish i was american

[Anonymous No.19950233]

>>19944462
This is also a great way to counteract college indoctrination.

[Anonymous No.19950474]

>>19945452
This. I had an uncle who died from an operation that wasn't even supposed to be dangerous.

Medical school is one thing but most jobs shouldn't require a degree at all, a masters degree shouldn't be required for a job a 13 year old could do

[Anonymous No.19950484]

>>19944992
Wharton is the #1 business school in the US

[Anonymous No.19950510]

>>19944462
what does this even mean? what exactly is he directing? what data is he using to make this decree? is there even proof this is how hiring at the Fed currently works?

Is trump basically just a loud mouth retard who spouts whatever meme shit gets his base saying "Based Blumpf?"

I'm tired of these headline catching fag shit that provably changes fuck all.

[Anonymous No.19950595]

>rednecks need Daddy Trump to sign an EO commanding federal agencies give them preferential treatment so they can have a shot at getting a job

Pathetic

[Anonymous No.19950675]

>>19950595

cope harder liberal arts major

[Anonymous No.19950676]

It looks like ZOM is getting ready to explode

[Anonymous No.19950734]

>>19950675
cope about what? that I have gainful employment, and likely so does the guy you replied to, already and don't need some meme order built on baseless bullshit to influence hiring decisions? What does the EO even do? are you just a retard?

[Anonymous No.19950843]

>>19947221
Has it ever occurred you that a person who went to university doesn't have a "good portfolio" because they were at fucking university?

[Anonymous No.19950932]

>>19944992
>biz - business and finance
>calls Wharton an army school
kek this is who you’re receiving financial advice from

[Anonymous No.19951027]

There needs to be a constitutional amendment that says "normies are not allowed to require you need 2-3 years experience for an entry level job, especially for glorified spreadsheets, which they label as bookkeeping/inventory monitoring software. Instead, specific required abilities must be explained, so that candidates can prepare accordingly for the job".

[Anonymous No.19951045]

https://hrdailyadvisor.blr.com/2017/05/26/snowflake-test-legitimate-hiring-tactic-or-invitation-for-trouble/

[Anonymous No.19951125]

>>19951027
sounds pretty commie to me.

[Anonymous No.19951315]

>>19945023
A motivated individual could absolutely become a world class surgeon by watching training videos. Surgery isn’t magic. I’m not saying that every YouTube wannabe surgeon is trustworthy, Im saying that it’s possible for a dedicated autist to become good at surgery without going to medical school

[Anonymous No.19951356]

>>19944462

i have a degree from a community college so this directly benefits me yet I still can't help but feel like we are living in an insane asylum

[Anonymous No.19951409]

this only applies to federal government hiring btw

[Anonymous No.19951487]

>>19944971
If a college degree was still worth today what it was worth 60 years ago, do you honestly think that they would be letting all of these minorities in?

[Anonymous No.19951535]

>>19951125
I recommend you watch a 10 minute political science video, in substitute for the the degree.

I've made similar posts before: >>/biz/thread/S16121944#p16123058

This, along with simplification and clarity of language used in tax and payroll related regulations (such as employee leave) would increase access to jobs related to these fields, without people needing to get involved in expensive amounts of education, or needing years of experience.

[Anonymous No.19951536]

>>19944462
fake and gay

[Anonymous No.19952199]

>>19950484
But that doesn't fit the narrative that Trump is an uneducated retard who can't measure up to the ivy league academic "elite".

[Anonymous No.19952241]

>>19947189
And you would be his cock cleaner

[Anonymous No.19952320]

>>19951535
>This, along with simplification and clarity of language used in tax and payroll related regulations (such as employee leave) would increase access to jobs related to these fields, without people needing to get involved in expensive amounts of education, or needing years of experience.
And I do believe that this is a realistic goal, as much of it is just basic arithmetic. What's often confusing about stuff like this is classifying people/organizations into the correct taxable entity, applying incomes to the taxable period, and using and interpreting the correct tax forms - if the language involved with this could be simplified/explained clearly, it could reduce a lot costs involved with taxation.

[Anonymous No.19952359]

>>19952320
>applying incomes to the taxable period
the correct taxable period

[Anonymous No.19952382]

>>19945216
Yeah, but only if you are a retard without a full ride to a private school

[Anonymous No.19953585]

>>19944992
Yeah, this country is doomed

[Anonymous No.19953695]

>>19944818
>>19944992
>>19945456
you got BTFO so hard you had to change IP lmao

[Anonymous No.19953879]

>>19944462
This only applies to the government. Most USAJobs/Fed jobs offered work experience equivalents already, this just tips the scale in their favor.

[Anonymous No.19954425]

>>19945216
I got a 4 year engineering degree from top 5 Canadian Uni. $10,600 per year. Graduated with $12k student loan debt into $92k per year starting salary. Paid off in six months. Feels good man,

Why do American's believe paying $250k to party on campus is such a life experience? I went on ski trips that would make rock stars blush in Canada. If you took 4 years off and spent 62000 on partying you'd be better off in the long run.

[Anonymous No.19955524]

>>19945702
Self taught stem skills will be an absolute minority of people. STEM degrees will have value. Now, you don’t necessarily need a degree to be a good, let’s say human services, but you know people with degrees will have better abilities to write and articulate themselves.

[Anonymous No.19955999]

>>19944462
This is good for us, college grads are commie shitheads on average this gets more of ourguys into positions of power
Very good sign and something we desperately need more of

[Anonymous No.19956054]

>>19944992
I can't believe these retards are actually falling for this bait, 4chan is dogshit now

[Anonymous No.19956555]

>>19950843
Actually in my field it's part of the curriculum to spend almost the whole last year of your time at university working on portfolio content.
And in fact in my whole time doing this, having a degree usually means that they'll have a more complete portfolio, than someone who learned on the job or is self taught. Most University programs for this field is geared towards preparing the students for their first job. So that usually equates to better interviewing ability, a more concise and readable resume, often more practiced in relevant skills, and a more complete portfolio. That's obviously on average, but still.

Was just saying in the instances where that's not the case and the only thing that causes them to stand out is the degree, it's almost meaningless.

[Anonymous No.19956796]

>>19952199
Whoever put that chart together, how do they know what George Washington's IQ was? pretty sure the IQ test didn't exist in 1790.

[Anonymous No.19957269]

>>19944664
There is nothing to get back to. It's over, unironically.
When you have understand, like me, it's always pathetic to see posts like you, of people who still don't understand, and will probably understand in 10 years, when the end will be so obvious, even for a retardo.

[Anonymous No.19957348]

>>19947566
Plenty of whites have degrees, there's massive unemployment and federal employment is a huge cost. I don't understand how people are seeing this and the concept of the government using this as an excuse to hire groups of minorities (especially blacks and latinos) on dirt cheap wages isn't even thought about.

[Anonymous No.19957516]

This is a boomer bill. A lot of boomer executives only have a bachelors degree but decades of experience. They will be out of work and looking for similar jobs.

[Anonymous No.19957658]

>>19945366
lmao, you got no fucking clue what you're saying.
That's why you flip my burgers.

[Anonymous No.19957683]

>>19949731
lmao that niga is faking it till he makes it

[Anonymous No.19957749]

>>19954425
Listen hear leafcuck those americans who go to college can't pay of their debts because Starbucks and serving jobs doesnt pay enough. This is xenophobia and sexism at its finest my gender studies degree is just as valid as any other degree saying otherwise means your a racist

[Anonymous No.19958093]

>>19944462
This is a clever way for keeping unproductive darkies out of the workplace. Affirmative action and diversity quotas in colleges and companies have pretty much forced retarded shit skins to be hired ahead of skilled whites. This is a way for blacks to still be denied.

Based