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>> No.19690365

>>19690315
Lol at everyone who bought the dead cat bounce and is now bagholding

>> No.19690389

>>19690365
I sold $80k in puts at the end of the day.

I paid $85k for them and held till they were $150k only to sell when they turned red

I am a fucking idiot

>> No.19690408
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Maybe a sign of things to come but Bobo sticker usage on Telegram has hit 1000 Bobos posted two days in a row now.

>> No.19690410

>>19690315
first for stop making duplicate threads.

>> No.19690417

Anyone have textbook suggestions on macroeconomics / trading?

>> No.19690433

I have VXX so close enough.

>> No.19690439
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>>19690408

>> No.19690443 [DELETED] 

>>19690389
Sage

Yes you are

>> No.19690501
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>>19690389
I bought these when the SPY was just under 309 this morning, held all day. honestly I feel comfy. POW is going to absolutely shit on the market next week when he speaks before congress Wednesday. Then I MIGHT sell, depending on how it all plays out. god the 2nd crash is going to be epic, all of the RH retards are going to lose their money and there will be no retail market to pump it back up LOL.

>> No.19690527

>>19690315
>it’s gonna go down cuz I said so

Stay poor faggot

>> No.19690538
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I am sorry bobo friend but you have to fuck off for a while, one more day of this and I am completely ruined, I need oil to give me good news, just oil I don't give a fuck about the rest

>> No.19690591
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19690591

>>19690538
Oil FUD is loading as we speak
Goldman Sachs already called for an oil correction
Not looking good for you, oil just snapped a 6 week winning streak

>> No.19690622

>>19690591
Does this mean futures blood red? I want cheapies.

>> No.19690625
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>>19690538
>still bagholding oil
I bought $5000 in oil stocks last Thursday and sold at a $1400 profit on Monday. Bought back into oil with $5000 yesterday and made an additional $600. Made as much as most wagies make in a month with two calculated trades

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>>19690315
I sold my SPY puts an hour before market close. Too scared of JPOW's printer. I'll buy back Monday at open depending on how things go.

>> No.19691571

>>19690625
my WCP went down from 2.40 to around 2.30. not that bad for an awful day elsewhere desu. price has held strong in the face of gay aids.

>> No.19691596
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>>19690591
Dude, just fuck my shit up

I just need one good pump any time next week so I can dump bags, I hope the reddit morons can save me, I am fucking ruined, I chased the dragon this week and got bit to shits.

I should of kept my money on Monday when I pulled out but greed and stupidity, also being a new fag got the best of me, I am taking it as an expensive lesson, I just lost 6k in a fucking week

>> No.19691638
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19691638

>>19690417
Thanks anon for suggesting books for me, very helpful thanks guys

>> No.19691696

>>19691596
Why hold oil over OPEC weekend with a 1-2 $ upside? That's super bad, the news were out last thursday; ofc it was overspeculated. Im thinking oil sub 30$ on the next corona news, might climb a 1$ or two on no news though.

>> No.19691802

>>19691638

we don't read books here we post bobo memes let dubs tell us what to buy and gamble away our life savings

>> No.19691824

>>19691696
this is emerging oil FUD. Oil is getting a correction.

>> No.19691838

I think it's going to be more of the same as today was on purpose as a slow bleed, but maybe tvix will crab up?

>> No.19691848

I have 20k in ETFs, 20k in bitcoin, and another 15k sitting in my bank collecting dust. I don't really want to put all of my eggs in one basket here, should I just hold onto this money?

>> No.19691864
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>>19691802
gamble yes, away no

>> No.19691880

>>19691848
Jesus m8 cashout of buttcoin and etfs. If one bubble is above all its the eyf bubnle. Dont get caught with your life savings trapped in an etf that dies. Price drop will be steep and unforgiving.

>> No.19691891

I think it's going to be more of the same as today was on purpose as a slow bleed, but maybe tvix will crab up?

>> No.19691901

>>19691880
Why do you think ETFs are gonna crash?

>> No.19691935

>>19691467
>Too scared of JPOW's printer.

there is no printer. It is a facade to scare away shorters and raise the hopes of buyers.

>> No.19691949

>>19691901
Index etfs are the next big bubble. They are also largely illiquid so if it does burst its going to be hard to get out.

Maybw not tomorrow, maybe not next week but they will burst and its gonna be violent.

>> No.19691989

>>19690501
you can frame that pic, the last time you'll ever see that much green lmao

>> No.19691998

>>19691949
Do you have any evidence or are is this just speculation?

>> No.19692033

>>19691998
https://www.bloomberg.com/amp/news/articles/2019-09-04/michael-burry-explains-why-index-funds-are-like-subprime-cdos

Burry explains it well

And stuff like this

https://www.investors.com/gdpr-agreement/?back_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.investors.com%2Fetfs-and-funds%2Fsectors%2Fetf-bubble-analysts-say-dont-fall-for-this-fake-news%2F

pretty much confirms it

>> No.19692044
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19692044

Fuck bears and fuck bulls

>> No.19692065

remove keith

>> No.19692098
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Would be a shame if
SNIB
the market would go
SNAB
absolutely nowhere...

>> No.19692099
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19692099

Anyone load up /dividends/ this week?

>> No.19692255

>>19690315
Theta will be $1 in 7 days. Fuck off bobo

>> No.19692400

>>19692044
We ain't ready for the roos

>> No.19692417

I'm feeling the pressure. I said fuck it. I'm bagholding all weekend. Either I ride or die.

>> No.19692442

Thoughts on buying some tvix first thing on Monday morning?

>> No.19692469

>>19690625
>2000 a month is typical wages
That's barely above minimum wage. Like 12$ an hour

>> No.19692513
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>>19692044
BOING BOING BOING

>> No.19692609

Bono gonna get rekt. The coronascam is completely priced in and the market knows it overreacted. The printing from JPow will inevitably result in inflation due to more money. This will obviously pump equities. All stupid shorters deserve to lose their money

>> No.19692611

>>19690501
I am a RH retard and sold everything Tuesday. What should I use instead of RH?

>> No.19692644

>>19692611
Webull

>> No.19692655
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>>19691638
search the archives for google drive links, I don’t have it with me but I posted the book link sometime in the last week or so.

Where you start is up to you, start with whatever sounds most interesting to you personally.

Also, investopedia is a good starting point.

>> No.19692658

>>19692442
Probably too late for that

>> No.19692664

>>19690625
I make 8k a month at my job then 1.5k from my rental then made 4k in 3 days in trading.

>> No.19692697
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>>19692609
Or it was a dead cat bounce...

>> No.19692700
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Do you like your fast food enough to invest in them

>> No.19692707
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>>19690315
>no link to previous thread
>didn’t post the link to the new thread in the old thread

God I hate that I’m holding tvix right now if retard cücks like this are team bobo. Fucking permabears are brainbroken.

>> No.19692720

>>19692700
No

>> No.19692725

>>19692655
Goddamn that art is fucking terrible. The anatomy is all off, there's no detail so her thighs look like someone just used paintbucket to turn two lines peach. Skin is never that color or that fucking reflective either, the fuck is going on back there

>> No.19692728

>>19690625
Sure, if you pretend capital gains taxes don't exist, or you live in a savage third world nation.

>> No.19692735

Day/swing trading seems the way to go.

No point to invest in this environment. Limited upside, huge downside. Like looking at the edge of a cliff.

>> No.19692772

>>19690389
the thing that really ruins people in the unrealistic expectations of gains. they watch the big short and think any trade where you dont make a 1000% profit is a waste.
in real life, professional hedgefund managers cant hit 20% a year. and some random anon turns $80k into $150k, and it doesnt occur to him to cash out.

>> No.19692789
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19692789

>>19692725
Kek good arguments. I just liked the big ass hips and the copious pussy juice drip

>> No.19692790

>>19692609
1) This wave has been priced in, the 2nd wave hasn't *occurring September*

2) Inflation won't occur as EVERYONE'S hoarding money. (Look at Buffett)

>> No.19692793

>>19692728
people in Canada can trade in a tax free savings account, and CRA doesn't give a shit about daytrading until you're obscenely successful enough for them to bother auditing you and telling you your activity counts as a business now.
kinda weird, there aren't even any actual rules saying you can't trade more than x amount of times or whatever like the US does for pattern day traders and shit

>> No.19692888

>>19692609
>The printing from JPow will inevitably result in inflation due to more money
he doesnt know what recessions/depressions do, does he?

>> No.19692938
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What other term can I use to measure bandwagonning?
If I wasn't a pussy I'd have loaded up on TVIX today.

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>>19692789
I mean sure but goddamn. Look at this shit. Her femur ends like a foot before where her ass should be. Anatomy is all wrong. With no detail her thighs look like raw chicken wings, there's no perspective at all

>> No.19692957
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>>19692938
for comparison, the bubbles for weed stock.

>> No.19692975

>>19692946
You apparently have no idea what you're talking about lmao. Are those lines supposed to represent the femurs? Of course it looks fucked up if you think they start several inches up from the knee

>> No.19692984

>>19692946
sorry dawg, just looks like glossy 2d ass to me

>> No.19693048

Does anyone know what company’s make Shock Wave Lithotripsy or (ESWL) extracorporeal shock wave lithotripsy machines?

>> No.19693078
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>Bobo thinks Monday will be red...

>> No.19693099

>>19692442
If it's a deep green day it could be a good chance to pick it up cheap. Otherwise I'd be hesitant.

>> No.19693440
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19693440

This one is for you bears. Cheers for calling out madness

>> No.19693471

>>19690389
I lost 50% of my retirement account in the last week due to trades constantly going wrong for me. If I had done nothing my portfolio would have dropped like 5%.

I started with 800 shares of spxl. Today I ended with 400 shares of spxl.

I am a fucking idiot and so embarassed.

>> No.19693474

Isn't there near deflationary conditions now? There won't be inflation, fed's printing is what hinders deflation atm. What are the consequences of another wave? Economic shutdown?

>> No.19693510

>>19693474
Shutdown has been off the table as stated by Mnuchin, Trump, and some states. Another wave is certainly bearish for sentiment and might spill into markets though.

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>>19693471
had two trades go bad for me and got wiped out this week. From 320% to -17%. If I held, I would’ve been down to like 260%. Peak was 17k. Started end of April

>> No.19693609

>>19693471
>>19693597
also feel like an idiot, and embarrassed. Gonna take it easy next week and slowly build my account. Do really safe trades, close positions when I’m up just to make sure I realize them. Gonna be tough work but I’m gonna grind it man. Good luck to you

>> No.19693636
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>>19691696
Cus I am fucking idiot that knows Jack shit about investing, I just kept repeating my self that oil can't never fail, so I long on the first drop, then I put a second long on the second drop and now I am fucked, I also bought at the top on some companies cus I panic and was trying to make things better but then things just got worst, yesterday I didn't buy shit mostly cus all my money is going in to boomer pockets and today I closed the first long with almost a 90% lost before it becomes more useless on Monday, I kept the first long in the off chance it might jump a dollar or 2 next week and off load bags if possible with enough to start over again.
Today I dip in to my earnings to put another long and I almost immediately regret it, it's on moderna so I know it's not going anywhere and it my start bumping on the news that's what literally happened the last time so I am not too worry about that.

I just need an oil pump so i can recover just a buck from that stupid mistake, again lesson learn good thing this happened with nothing but gains and it isn't even that much, if I had lost something like 100 kis I would be buying a rope I swear, I just wish I pulled that money when I had it before I convinced to go and chase that fucking dragon, I need that money, I am broke as all fucks and 5k would look really nice in my bank account.
Never again, I learn my lesson, get then gains out before you go on a hunt, I need to build an office to read charts and news, I didn't even knew there was an OPEC meeting, that's what caused this fucking plunge after all.
Oil goes down everything goes down, oil goes up everybody is happy

Exempt the bears

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>>19690315
sell signal, no?

>> No.19693643

>>19691467
I’m holding SPY puts, Monday is iffy, could be more Kung flu cases that could goose the markets to a ‘2nd wave’. Even though I think it’s bullshit, the market thinks what it wants. Time will tell, wish I really knew the answer though!

>> No.19693657

>>19691596
Don’t we all just need one good pump to hook us up anon? I feel you fren, hope you get it, but my feels is down on Monday?!?

>> No.19693666

>>19691638
Good props bro, best of luck in the rigged markets ;)

>> No.19693675

>>19691935
Lolz

>> No.19693686

>>19690365
I closed all of my positions early in the morning, before all the premarket gains slowly dissipated. Feels good man. Now I'm ready for whatever comes this Monday.

>> No.19693690
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>>19690315

>> No.19693711

>>19693636
You sold your long once again from panic, like you did buying at the top... and blame OPEC for whats a market correction, nice go join the idiots!

>> No.19693723

>>19693471
but did you sell??! you dont loose until you sell

>> No.19693752

best penny stocks for monday?

>> No.19693783

>>19692790
inflation happens when we cap nominal yields by printing like mf, stocks will soar but eventually crash against the price of gold because usd has become useless.. this is why buffet is hoarding silver. Yields almost got to 3% in 2018 and market plummented 26,500 to 22,500. Just imagine the shit show now

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>>19693711
The long was on gush to get over 60 bucks, that shit isn't happening and was most likely going to go to shits on Friday.

I have another going to 55 cus that's how fucking stupid I was, I'll let that do whatever it might, there it's a good chance the fucking stock dips further on Monday, I am just trying to salvage something.
This market is too wild, I can build back up, I know I can, I understand the principal, I am too new to actually playing the board, I been a stock aficionado for years but never actually played the game, it takes mistakes to build knowledge, I built that 6k from 300 bucks but I also understand it was the best week we had so far so I am not even deluding my self I am some kind of Michael burry here.

Is just like any game brotha, you got to play it to learn, I am not even faced, I just hate on the idea I was this fucking close to 10k which was my initial goal, I just need a thousand left after the slaughter is over, I'll play safer chips and do more dd, right now I do everything over the phone and following mostly shit that gets shill here, I need an office to set up chop and read my own charts instead of depending I catch the right rumor

>> No.19693805

>>19693794
Man how come all these new traders who have no idea what they're doing are just going apeshit with options? Buying and selling is simple. Options are not.

>> No.19693806

>>19693609
Yeah, today I broke my normal rule that I'm not supposed to daytrade with my retirement account. I had been wanting to change my assets in the account, so I started off by trading out. Then I traded into an opportunity. Then I made 3 more small trades for small profits. Then I had one bad trade which dropped me by about 2k, but I thought I made an obvious mistake of selling too soon so I chided myself and thought there was lots of time left in the day to make it back. So then when my next trade started to go wrong I decided to hold longer, and then ended up losing even more. 8k down in one day from fucking around like an idiot, on top of the major losses from bagholding during the early crashing this week.

My options account still has about $800 left in it, down from 5k at its peak. Hoping to rebuild that one, maybe get some XOM puts next week.

>> No.19693807

>>19693690
Why is everyone scrambling to blame Robin Hood retards for every bit of price action? Trying to keep 'dead cat bounce' out of the headlines?

>> No.19693832

>>19693794
As long as you learn from your mistakes we've all been there... yes gush is risky in volatility and no doubt will see more if we move ahead to fast again..

>> No.19693836

>>19693805
The idea that people are betting on this shit instead of sports because it's all been cancelled has been floated but it's simpler than that - people are stupid and want the big bucks fast

>> No.19693841
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Boys this thread has me feeling so comfy. I bought a ton of UVXY 6/19 calls and TVIX right before close today. The fear is palpable, I can sense the panic, I love it

>> No.19693844
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>>19693805
Is fun, I am addicted but I am also trying to understand them, me personally.

I just started playing last month with 3 hundred bucks, built to 1.5 with nothing but PnD from /ptg/ and then I started fucking with options mostly to understand them, I am yet to fuck with actually writing to sell, I tried to actually sell a contract last week but then I realized nothing was making sense and needed more info so I bought the contract back at a lost.

Me personally I am pushing buttons to see what they do and analyze, most morons getting on Robin hood right now don't even know what they're doing on the first place.
Not saying I do but after spending 7 years on this site I have a good idea what is happening, I just need to hone my skills bro

>> No.19693850

>>19693510
We will have a shutdown.

The choice is not shutdown vs open.

The choice is top-down shutdown vs bottom-up shutdown.

When hospitals are overflowing in Florida, people will stop going out by choice. Well just have many more dead.

>> No.19693853

>>19693471
Anon, some advice. Do that dumb shit in your brokerage account, Lose it all. Dumb, but OK.

But your retirement account is for shit you buy with the understanding that you don't sell until you're in a rocking chair.

E.g. an S&P500 mutual fund or ETF,

I have a similar, albeit less retarded story, but I follow my advice, and while I had grand visions of 3x my money in brokerage account, all I did for my Roth is put it in a mutual fund, and what do you know... it's up over 20% while my brokerage WAS up 20% but is now break even. It might go up again, it might keep crashing, but the point is, at least the Roth isn't bouncing around like a fucking rubber dildo

>> No.19693864 [DELETED] 

>>19693807
I'm not. This guy is losing his ass on calls.

>> No.19693879

Took out a loan and mortgaged the house. I’m all in on leveraged stock calls. Gap up Monday

>> No.19693901

>>19693879
Holy shit dude, is this for real?

>> No.19693911

>>19693879
Dude, if you're not larping please find the crisis hot line and have it on hand, I think we're utterly fucked, I have hopes but I can see money going red hot again and then again, today's resistance was very weak I can see most people wanted to dump even further

>> No.19693917

Can somebody explain to me how to properly use a trailing stop

>> No.19694006

>>19693879
Someone screencap this and then report back on Monday results.

>> No.19694012

>>19693917
Well first you need to identify what is usual variance in the price of the stock to get a baseline. Example would be if you look through months of history and you see that the stock usually goes up/down about 5%, then you know anything significantly more than that is an outlier. So something like around a 9% trailing stop would make sense.

This is very oversimplified and the ideal trailing stop % is entirely up to your judgement, but in any situation you should examine the stock history and also look at how industry is trending when determining your %.

>> No.19694016

>>19693807
for the same reason they blame "Millenials" for everything bad that happens. news media will never name the jew. there's a new boogie man, called millenial robinhood users

>> No.19694018

What's the smart money move on Monday lads?
t. downs syndrome money

>> No.19694045

>>19694012
Thanks makes sense I will do some more reading

>> No.19694049

$CLF
Cleveland-Cliffs Inc (NYSE:CLF) – Investment analysts at B. Riley increased their Q4 2020 EPS estimates for shares of Cleveland-Cliffs in a research note issued on Tuesday, June 9th. B. Riley analyst L. Pipes now expects that the mining company will post earnings of $0.35 per share for the quarter, up from their prior forecast of $0.28. B. Riley currently has a “Buy” rating and a $10.00 target price on the stock.

>> No.19694059

I'm loaded up on calls for Monday, am I gonna make it?

>> No.19694100

dump it bobo

>> No.19694131
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Uhh...bullbros?

>> No.19694170

>>19694131
It’s happening

>> No.19694211

>>19691638
Investing: the last liberal art

>> No.19694241

>>19693901
>>19693911
For real and I’m not larping. The charts told me green Monday. I need this, there was no other option other than picking a direction and laying it all on the line.

>> No.19694287

>>19694241

Lmao why are you gambling on a monday gap up based on chart analysis. You're straight up taking a bad bet, especially with Thursday having happened.

>> No.19694317

>>19694241
Why are you so desperate to make it right now when things are so volatile? What's the plan if every call tanks?

>> No.19694329

>>19693807
>>19694016
robinhood is where all the trumpbucks checks went for any middle class millenial with a phone. its free money to scam those fucking retards. how high apple tesla hertz jcpenny are shows that these delusional faggots really do have considerable sway.

>> No.19694341

>>19693853
Yeah, wise words.

My original intention for that account was to do exactly that - sit on a single broad ETF for the next 33 years until the government requires (allows) me to actually withdraw money. I broke my rules and fucked it up. I regret it badly.

>> No.19694347

>>19694241
Go to hit up home depot and the liquor store, kill yourself sunday to spare the suffering: >>19694131

>> No.19694350

>>19693879
>>19693901
whoa is this real
how did they train that cat to dance

>> No.19694356
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>be me
>want to be rich
>play stocks and options
>reach low 6 figures in my brokerage account
>don't cash out
>back to sub six figures in my brokerage account
>achieved this while literally risking sub 15k on a move I was confident about
>ready to try again after the devstation
>throwing in a larger quantity due to the unfortunately higher prices now even with the drop
>if i make the right moves I make it financially
>if not I lose most of what I gained

Anyone else on here do this with all least 30% of your entire cash networth? How was/is the experience? When did you do it? Did you succeed or is it still in progress?

>>19693879
Pics of your account otherwise ur probably larping.

>> No.19694374

>>19694241
im a long term bull for the memes but please seek help if this is real

>> No.19694438

>>19694329
Why do they go for Robinhood when Ameritrade is just superior

>> No.19694467

>>19694287
>>19694317
>>19694347
>>19694374
I’m confident gap up Monday. If not I’ll sell taking whatever loss comes from premarket till market open. Then will have to really make the right moves to get it all back. Straddle or strangle for sideways, wait till bottom which I think it’s already at unless proven wrong then rebuy calls, jump in on puts and be on top of it. It’s hard and embarrassing to explain why I need to do this because I should have never let myself be in this position but I am.

>> No.19694480

>>19694438
because of
>muh apps
and nothing more. brokerage interfaces are sterile and boring, but robinhood colorful and fun.

>> No.19694490

>>19694467
Lmfao you leveraged didn't you

>> No.19694500

>>19694341
On a related note, should I just fucking quit? Am I too retarded for this? How do you know when the market has beaten you? I'm a lawyer, and was always in the top of the class in school, but my horrible track record speaks for itself.

In 2015, I put 30k into oil "after" it crashed. I got in too early, my investments fucking tanked and I held those bags at 90% loss until the 2020 crash which turned them into a 98% loss when I finally sold. 30k down.

In 2018/19 I put about 10k into cannabis. I bought the fucking top of the hype train and it started to tank. I averaged down, and it never stopped sliding. I held those bags until the 2020 crash. 10k down.

In 2020, I learned from my 2015 failure and waited long enough after the crash to 'safely' get in, but then I fucked it all away on horrible trades anyway whil everyone is supposedly making shitpiles during this 'easy money' period. Another 26k down.

I've had about 4k in actual gains (all during the 2020 recovery) compared to all my losses, so my net after 5 years of this shit is around -$62k. My net worth is only about 30k, so it's not like I have mountains to burn. Why am I so fucking stupid? I have spent literally hundreds of hours reading about this shit, but I can't seem to put it into practice to actually make money.

>> No.19694506

>>19694438
>>19694480
robinhood was a better app forever until recently their market share has skyrocketed and other broker kikes need to make their platforms millenial friendly.

also robinhood doesn't suck your blood out for playing the market, imagine paying fees or having a minimum wallet

>> No.19694515

>>19694506
>imagine paying fees or having a minimum wallet
Imagine not being a poorfag and choosing a brokerage with no fees or extremely low fees.

>> No.19694523

>>19694500
You seem emotional. But think of it this way, you had the spare money (assuming) and state of mind to decide to get into the stock market. You've lost, but have you learned from those losses? If so, you shouldn't quit, but start making better choices.

>> No.19694531

>>19694515
called robinhood, which has been the baby pacifier into the stock market for millenials and zoomers and is why they continue to use it

>> No.19694533

>>19694515
As a person who is poor compared to you fucking shitcuck rich guy, robinhood allows me to invest without a fee. And it's fun, lay in a little cash have lots of stocks diversified and not risking my whole lifes worth.

It works for a smart poor fag like me.

>> No.19694540

>>19694500
Yes you are retarded. Too retarded? Idk. Buy high and sell low isn't a good strategy

>> No.19694542

>>19694500
Lmao bro it's not that hard. Take losses while they're still small, take gains when you can and don't FOMO.

>> No.19694546

>>19691596
You've made one critical mistake anon, you're part of the normie sentiment, so when you start thinking 'just one more pump and i can dump these bags' ALL the normies are thinking that so people will dump every slight rise and it will just go down.

>> No.19694549

>>19694500
>I have spent literally hundreds of hours reading about this shit, but I can't seem to put it into practice to actually make money.
it's easy to read about things that have already happened
nothing in the stock market is guaranteed to happen twice, and if it does you probably will have no idea when that's going to happen
maybe you should stick to the law books

>> No.19694578

I'm holding all my stock through the weekend, I'm prepare to lose 50% and that's okay. I've made peace with it.

>> No.19694585
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Who here diamond hands?

>> No.19694608

>>19694531
>>19694533
You guys don't understand how RH makes money, do you? And their frequent outages?
Scrape together $500 and get an E*TRADE account. Don't put your eggs in some pajeet basket.

>> No.19694615

>>19694467
If Monday opens green, sell. Do you hear me?
Monday will be like Friday, but unlike Friday it will close blood red.

>> No.19694616

>>19694500
Stop trying to predict the market. See a pattern beginning, join it, ride the wave and sell when signs of a reversal start to pour in. Don’t try to nail the exact top because it is impossible, sell upon validation. Don’t FOMO. Don’t panic sell, find a good position to exit because the market won’t go down without minor corrections along the way first.

>> No.19694622

>>19694540
>>19694542
I could understand if I was buying ATH every time, but I am normally buying well below ATH, at reasonable P/E, and shit still crabs downwards forever, even if the fundamentals are solid and the companies have consistent positive EPS.

If you buy stock that's trading 25% below ATH when the company is peforming BETTER than it was at ATH and it crabs down another 50%, at what point do you sell, or do you just hold forever?

Maybe this is only a problem with smallcaps?

>> No.19694637

>>19694616
How do you pick the sweet spot -- far enough along for validation but not so far as to be in FOMO territory?

>> No.19694646

>I have 0 finance knowledge
>just downloaded robin hood
>$5000 to spend

What do I do niggers. I see u talking about calls and shit. Where am I

>> No.19694652

>>19694622
Sell at your stop loss duh. You need to have that set. Take losses while they're small. It's whatever, don't be afraid and don't be greedy, if you bet wrong just take that L before you're financially ruined.
>>19694637
You said you've been reading about it forever, you should have indicators to predict a reversal. If you're wrong you get some profit if you're right you get some profit.

>> No.19694657

>>19694646
Holy shit guys we found the nigga who is breaking the stock market and crushing jew's hopes and dreams

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When do you guys think market will stop dumping?

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>>19690365

Couldnt care less.
You guys can dump it even more.

T.income investor

>> No.19694686

>>19694131
7 cases...

>> No.19694694

>>19690527
ur not going to win the game. if u dont have it now u wont ever

>> No.19694698

>>19694608
My friend I have like 10 to my name. No debt good credit. As of now that's not counting the 2ish up and down I have.

Heard something that stuck with me; "stocks will and always go up, the stocks I invest in are the type that will always perform on market. Once faith had been lost in that, that's the end of the country".

Always hold no buy sell shit on my block, most of the time ;). RH is a good app.

Though am curious about what you have to say about the outages. Pls respond.

>> No.19694729

>>19694500
Do this and quit.

Buy Boeing and don't come back until 3 years later. Why? Boeing not allowed to be bankrupt. Airlines/Cruises can go bankrupt, not Boeing though.

You can thank me for your 3x gains by hating black people.

>> No.19694739

>>19694729
Dont blame an entire race of people.

That's as foolish as them.

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Study this graph anon's. This virus will likely follow the same path.

Fuck niggers.

>> No.19694804

>>19690315
I had the feeling that but today and loose 20 percent in 10 mins Monday feeling when I was about to buy

>> No.19694809

>>19694500
You're playing too high stakes in a level you don't belong, get on smaller cap with less volatility shit until you master a bette entry/ exit strategy, you should do nothing but /ptg/ shit until you learn how you time better.
Like anon say, take a win and don't wait to sell at the top, put a stop lost a soon as you feel confident and just let it ride for extra gains but you should also be playing in smaller fields for sure, you're playing in waters that out of your comfort zone that's why you're losing money, you don't sit comfortable

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>>19694739
Blacks are a race of people that take and never give. They don't contribute enough to pay their fair share and take away from those who do. Fuck them.

>> No.19694816

>>19694809
For someone just starting out, would like $300 be an ok amount to start with?

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how do I profit off of the understanding that if no one sold until they needed to retire the market would go up in a straight line forever and we could all make it?

>> No.19694826

>>19694662
Until we get a legit corona vaccine

>> No.19694831

>>19693850
>florida dies
Absolutely Bullish

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>>19694662
It just did, now it'll crab forever cus no one will buy or sell until Corona shit is green again

>> No.19694862

>>19694816
Sure anon

>> No.19694866
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How boned is MRO/SSL/OKE if oil corrects into the fucking ground again? Also is it bad that OKE did a 30 million share offering to raise funds and not cut the dividend?

I just want my money anons I can't fucking win in this market.

>> No.19694890

>>19692033
The investors.com (Investors business daily) thinks this market is a confirmed uptrend. And that last link says that the etf bubble is fake news.

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Second wave + real economic crisis coming get out while you can

Too many idiot robinhood traders getting cocky should have been an early warning

>> No.19694945

>>19694823

When you buy a share in a stock, where do you think it comes from? The untapped share reserve?

>> No.19694975

>>19694652
>>19694809
Thanks.

I'm going to keep trying but I'm going to downsize my active trading substantially, and then just ETF any other money I have. Maybe once I can beat the ETF for a year I will start moving more money back to active trading.

>> No.19694977

>>19694941
Second wave isn’t for two months.

>> No.19694994

>>19692609
Go back to Robinhood

>> No.19694997

>>19694977
COVID has a 2 week incubation period and when did protests start 2 weeks ago it’s downhill from here all the fed is gonna do is print more money to let rich people get out prepare while you still can

>> No.19695017

>>19694756
This is just as fucking stupid as the people who post the WE ARE HERE stock graphs and brainlessly predict the future. Always wrong.

>> No.19695019

>>19694941
Every Robinhood user should be required to read about Joseph Kennedy and the shoeshine boys then write a paragraph about what they think the story was about.

>> No.19695028

>>19693879
Lmao dude you picked the literal worst time to go long.

>> No.19695040
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Is it even possible for me to lose money?

Use a correlation driven nonparametric learning algorithm to conduct technical analysis and use a no-regret algorithm to pick the hyperparameters to avoid overfitting.

>> No.19695041

>>19694729

> Buy Boeing

Bas-

> hating black people

Uh

>> No.19695047

>>19695017
Viruses spread much better during winter m8.
Look at south america, right now they're getting fucked.

>> No.19695058

>>19694131
and here we go ...

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Next week for covered calls I am doing SWBI, CCL, and KR. SWBI and KR are quite solid. CCL is a bit of a gamble. You can also try Oracle, they are decently safe but also less rewarding. Last week I did CHWY, GME, and PLAY. CHWY and GME were good, but PLAY did not work out as well (just as I feared). Remember to do your own research!

In other news, you might want to learn about bonds. If you go to your brokers bond search, you can search for bonds with certain ratings and Yield to Maturity. The rating indicates the likelihood of bankruptcy, with A's being near zero, B's are safe-ish, and low B's and C's are probably going bankrupt. The yield to maturity is the percentage per year you make by holding the bond. This means if you bought a bond at 12% YTM, you're effectively earning 12% guaranteed per year. If a company does go bankrupt, it doesn't necessarily mean you lose everything either, you might still receive partial payment or shares/bonds in a new company if it survives a restructure.
I have bought Nordstrom, Royal Caribbean, and US Steel bonds for 10%+ YTM.

>> No.19695076

>>19694500
a poor lawyer? Jesus bro are you writing this from Africa?

>> No.19695077

>>19695047
brazil in specific has warmer winters than most of the US has summers though. that and its still spreading here. doesnt seem to be very seasonal.

>> No.19695088

>>19695041
>black "people"

>> No.19695105

>>19694729
>Boeing not allowed to be bankrupt.
That’s your investment thesis?

Here’s a better one: buy Mastercard.
It always goes up.

>> No.19695120

I bought Amazon and Vivendi (cac40) puts.
Will I be fine on monday?

>> No.19695179

>>19693850
this nobody thought trump would lock down the first time, it certainly isnt impossible

>> No.19695238

This week was literally a p&d, wasn't it?

>> No.19695369

>first time doing stonks
>bought $500 on Monday
>worth $600 right now

This shit is easy niggers

>> No.19695392

>>19692772
last year I could have made 100k from weed stocks but I held and eventually 'only' made 30k

>> No.19695429

How often do you guys buy the same stock after selling it? There's only so many stocks that I'm tempted to rebuy stocks that have dropped.

>> No.19695433

>>19692700
Can’t invest in Taco Bell (YUM) just yet. Gotta wait for a slight dip

>> No.19695461

Anyone else have twitter just for market updates? No Ariana and grande and shit, just a mixture of news outlets and trends.

>> No.19695533

>>19695369
I'm up 12% on my stock account, and 7% on my crypto account.
You didn't get the memo that crypto is dead?

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>>19694329
thoughts on hertz fellas? they went to cover debt obligation with an equity offering right on the brink. interesting, but I'm strongly considering buying a stack of puts on it, at the very least an impending share dillution is in order. thoughts?

>> No.19695552

>>19694941
RobinHood user reporting In nope I cashed out on Tuesday should of done the that on Monday but I was one of the guys telling everyone on this board I all waiting for the crash to buy that massive dip

>> No.19695658

>>19695429
If they are still good, why not? Just because you sold does not mean they are bad, you just took profits or felt they became overbought.

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My position in degiro waiting line hasn't moved in three weeks
All the signals I was planning on catching on dissipated
Let me register reeeeeeee

>> No.19695671

>>19694854
So you think billionaire hedge found mangers will want to stop making money

>> No.19695685

>get into shitcoins a week ago
>do heaps of low volume trades over the past few days
>favourable trades every time, my coins all happen to go up 20-30%
>cash out because Monday is bobo day
>check my gains on kyber, think I'm up $300-400
>lost far more than I made to transaction fees
do you have any bobos for this feel

>> No.19695696

>>19695685
>transaction fees
who are you using?

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Later losers!

I'll be a quintillionare after only 30 years.

>> No.19695752

>>19695737
what am i looking at? seems liek you fucked up your calculation royally

>> No.19695759

>>19695696
This. If you’re doing low level trades and just starting out, use Robinhood.

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>>19695685
>coins
This is stock country.

>> No.19695793

>>19695696
kyber and uniswap.
The problem is I had 5-6 different coins, each with a small value. So I would 'short' them all, pay $20 in transaction fees to get them into fiat, and then pay the same amount to get them back into crypto.
This doesn't even take into account the .3% they took every time.

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>>19695671
There is too much uncertainty in the world at the moment, In retrospective I don't know why I even invested this week knowing the world was going to shits around me.
China is dumping us dollar for gold and they're threatening to use a different form of currency for international trade, that can spark ww3 but hopefully not, Corona lock down 2.0 is just around the corner, once a bunch of boomers start to clog the system again they'll revert back to stage one lock down.
We're officially in a recession so the GDP is totally fucked.
Jerome just announced they'll keep the printer going steady for the foreseeable future which is going to make more countries dump the dollar and jump on to something else.

Dude, we're watching the death of an era and China can be blamed for it.
We will see some more shit before this year is over, guaranteed.

Do you really want to throw money on the stock exchange come Monday under those circumstances, let's admit that those of us who were yelling bullish last week were fucking high on greed and easy gains.
The market always correct itself and those fucking with it

>> No.19695826

>>19694506
oh but they do, son. i will always get a non-delayed quotes, better price, faster fills, and tighter spreads on equities and options using TDA vs RH. I know, because I watch both and have kept a small play account on RH for 4 years alongside my big boy TDA account. How about, newfag zoomer?

lol @ RH niggers

>> No.19695835

>>19695238
Yep and most of us got dunkt on

>> No.19695851

>>19695752
Just overfitting. A joke.

Orange line is the algorithm which I expect to be most effective out of sample (with different parameters).
The out of sample tests suggest it should do about 4 times as well as just buying the index.

It's just mean reversion to an exponentially weighted moving average with the assets weights regularized by L1 regularization.

>> No.19695886

>>19694615
bingo we have a winner

>> No.19696002

>>19692697
That seems eerily accurate...is it fake (i.e. not old but recent and curve fitted)?

>> No.19696010

>>19694615
Yep, I am actually starting to get sober again, dude I didn't know money can actually get you high.

Dump the fuck everything you have, on anything that is not covid related, I believe moderna and codex will pump again just like they did previously to lock down, this shit is going to run on cycles it seems, or maybe not who knows

>> No.19696062

>>19695793
Use Coinbase Pro. You can’t do options trading just yet, but it’s coming.

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>>19696010
I’m not selling nigger. If I lose I lose. I’m not selling. YOU HEAR ME???

>> No.19696110

>>19692469
Yep. I said wagies for a reason. Fast food, retail, and warehouse bs. Average wage is around $12 an hour for those low skilled jobs

>> No.19696153

I'm long af. Bobo can lick my nuts.

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>>19696010
>>19696072
If I have a good out Monday, I'm out.
If I don't, I'm still out, better to dump my bags now than later. Just watch and buy back in, it's not getting better.

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>>19696153
BASED

This is what ALL of Monday will look like.

>> No.19696191

kangaroo chads [email protected]?

>> No.19696193

>>19696176
Do you suppose that girl would ever fuck me?

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>>19696185

>> No.19696208

>>19696193
depends do you have a BBC?

>> No.19696235

Are there any dates to keep an eye out for as a longer? If it’s yet again going to start crashing on monday when will the feds start pumping money again?

>> No.19696252

>>19696193
Anon that's just a drawing it's not real.

>> No.19696268

NEED monday to open green

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>>19694356
>Anyone else on here do this with all least 30% of your entire cash networth?
Yes but it was closer to 80%. And I lost. -50%. Learning this lesson does not need to be this expensive. Never risk so much on one bet.

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>he knows the entire market is running solely on greed
>he wanted just a few more days
>he thought Monday would be better
>he thinks he'll get out before everyone else does and won't be the one holding the bag
tick tock

>> No.19696299

>>19690315
If AAL goes back to 20 next week, I have made literally a fortune - multiple yearly salaries in unser 1 week, kek.

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>>19695851
I used to do shit like this. Fourier, Wavelets, Laplace, Hilbert, statistical models, trajectory + volatility, AI backed meme indicators but it's really all just that - memes. The stock market is too vast and has too many conditionals for anything simple like that to work. They key is data but who has that. I found my way out of that misery though, it's called deductive reasoning and sector specialisation.

>> No.19696308

>>19696235
The thing is the market will not respond immediately to Fed support if the selling is strong enough. That happened in March where plunge continued some days after Powell dropped rates to zero and announced aggressive QE. I don't think you should try to time things based on that.

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>tfw never going to make it

>> No.19696325

Lots of dry powder for monday from buying the overnight dip and selling the triple top.

Whats the play?

>> No.19696356

Sentiment seems to be overwhelmingly bearish. I'm gonna inverse /smg/ and buy calls.

>> No.19696383

>>19696294
Retail investors will never sell. Predict which stocks are interesting for RH zoomers and buy them before they do...

Best thing is to buy heavily shilled MSM stocks because 1-2 days later RH buys them all up

>> No.19696389

>>19694356
get out while you are ahead

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I'm thinking everything is going to be going down over the next few days but then again didn't the fed just print trillions of dollars and put it into circulation, wouldn't the only thing to worry about here be inflation?

>> No.19696413

>>19694356
Anon... that's the biggest mistake you can make. You are forcing trades and you Sound emotionally hurt. This wont end good, stop it as long as you have money left l. Either learn from your mistake / mistakes or stick with the boomer strategy...buy and hodl 10years

>> No.19696419

>>19696399
Right now the only thing to worry about is deflation. Central banks world wide are pumping trillions of fiat into the market besides QE which is never really getting into circulation...and it doesn't help at all

>> No.19696458

>>19696321
You're right. Faggots will never make it.

>> No.19696583

>>19694585
wtf is that real??!

>> No.19696603

Hertz' plan to sell $1 billion worth of new stock was allowed. What exactly does that mean? My assumption is the stock will goes down by roughly the factor between the amount of current stock value and the current stock value plus $1 billion. Is that generally what happens in these situations?

>> No.19696626

>>19696603
It never happened before. No bankrupt company was allowed to offer new worthless company shares to pay back their debt.

Most likely it will soar a bit more, but was most likely already priced in. And from one day to another the rag will be pulled.

>> No.19696629

>>19696603
yes its share dilution but also this is a very interesting and uncommon opportunity. The fact that this is allowed and hertz is a historically decent company is actually bullish even with the dilution. Also hertz is inextricably linked to airline pump. I'm torn between buying puts or calls myself

>> No.19696649
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>>19696383
>retail investors will never sell
The first red day will come as a shock, but panic won't set in initially. You have to remember that Thursday was literally the first red day ever for a huge number of traders. And it bounced up again on Friday, so everything is fine.
But then Tuesday will suddenly be red too. People will be laughing nervously, but it's okay. Jerome is going to speak, he'll make everything okay.
By Wednesday there won't even be a green at open. People will be falling over each other trying to dump airlines and cruise ships.
On Thursday blue chips will feel the pain.
Come Friday the catalog will be entirely pink wojaks.

Warren will wait until every last hodler has been squeezed against the wall before he decides to step in.

>> No.19696652

>>19691949
>>19691998
That's just plain bullshit. I'm not a big fan of ETFs but one must admit that they worked perfectly fine also during the march selloffs this year. Liquidity is very much provided except you own some smart beta niche swap ETF. An "ETF-bubble", if there would be one, is simply a stock market bubble with the same implications for stocks.

>> No.19696668

>>19696649
Doesn't matter. Retail investors will anticipate that it will bounce back and are conditioned that they should buy the dip.

>> No.19696677

>>19692790
You have no idea. Please inform yourself about shadow inflation rates.

>> No.19696682

>everyone talking about how robinhood and other brokerages saw a GIANT spike in membership at the time of the trumpbucks
>the hertz fiasco where they spiked 200%+ after bankruptcy
>people reporting that a ton of penny stocks are recovering by ridiculous amounts

so be real with me here: There's going to be some kind of shakeout of retail investors ahead, but we have no way of knowing when, and if it will be all at once or over a long period of capitulation, right?

>> No.19696691
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>>19690315
Any one else think the next crash was specifically designed to margin call the robinhood retards and zoomers gambling their trumpbux?

>> No.19696696
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>>19696356
I’m holding $7 - 6/19 IVR calls throughout the weekend. I’m not scared

>> No.19696710

>>19696682
>There's going to be some kind of shakeout of retail investors ahead, but we have no way of knowing when, and if it will be all at once or over a long period of capitulation, right?
Yeah. Thursday was a taste of that already.

>> No.19696713

>>19696682
Exactly. But then again hedge funds, bigger corp have massively bought since march too and allocated more percentage of their funds into stocks too and i don't see them losing too and multiple stock buyback programs are announced too.

Nobody knows when or what happens, just bei quick and make as much money in this volatile shit until we kangeroo market forever

>> No.19696748

>>19696668
The same retail investors who are a) unemployed, even if not all of them are aware yet and b) about to get dumped on by the institutional boys, who will inflate futures to give the robin hood kiddies hope and then dump on them like it's March.

When the choice for many people is between buying groceries and hodling some -30% stock, do you really think the same people who buy up Hertz and Carnival looking for a quick buck are going to have diamond hands?

>> No.19696752

>>19696691
Well there's lots of possuble motivations to it but I do think Wednesday night/Thursday morning futures, premarket, and Thursday session was a calculated move. Institutional sliding out of positions to protect against downturn does not look like that. That was deliberate sell pressure intended to stir up a panic.

>> No.19696767

>>19696748
Depends it will be quick and dirty or a slow bleed. If we hit circuit breakers das after day, sure the retail investor will turn into a dumb monkey and follow his instinct fear...but if we slowly bleed down to lows with like 1-2% a day, i don't think retail investors will get out.

>> No.19696825

>>19696767
This market doesn't know slow bleeds. March showed that it's going quick. Either up or down. I assume retailers as main reason for the kangaroo type market. Momentum traders are fucked, contrarian Traders make a fortune right now

>> No.19696832

Are anons here just memeing about this being the second crash or for real? Lots of investors who missed out in march/april are not going to want to miss out a second time. Almost certain that this crash will end early.

>> No.19696860

>>19696832
>>19696825
Retail investors have no influence where the market heads. They are just swimming in a pool of white sharks and trying to eat the left overs...

If the market makers decide to pull it then they pull it.

The retail investors increased the speed of bounce since march for sure, especially on shit stocks.

>> No.19696861

>>19696832

I think most of the bears here believe a second crash is eminent. I don’t see a crash in our future for the next 30 days

>> No.19696955

>>19696861
But in 31days you do? Gottcha

>> No.19696958

>>19696832
All it takes is one single rug pull. It'll probably be one of these shit companies going bankrupt for real, not Ch 11, which does it. Institutional investors will get spooked knowing retail will try consolidate its gains. This spiral will wipe out 10-15% of the market in a single day and the spiral will get much worse before it gets better.

>> No.19696986
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>>19694500
I suspect you learned how to read chart voodoo but not how to do a basic fundamentals research. You wouldn't have fucked up the weedstocks so bad if you had just looked at the business side of things for 5 minutes instead of investigating meme lines.

>> No.19696994

How you guys feel about Dave & Busters (PLAY)?

>> No.19697052

>>19696986
>looked at the business side of things
How do you do that? Business model, revenue growth, earnings, or what?

I can read a balance sheet but i don’t really know how to go about future projections

>> No.19697054

>>19696986
Killer post. Chart voodoo. Gotta remember that one.

>> No.19697104

>>19696986
cannabis took even some serious business accountant type fundamentals investors for a ride.

CGC looked "okish" with constellations investment (a warchest of billions) until about 12-16(??) months ago when they started shitting the bed nonstop with no growth and terrible earnings

Canntrust was touted as having very solid fundamentals and industry leading standards, until it was discovered that they were trying to grow shit in an unlicensed back room and imploded in the space of 3 days.

Aphria was.... I think it was the cannalysts? pick, and the short report that turned out to be a bit exaggerated dropped them into the price range they're still trading at today, with a market cap below aurora.
Aurora always looked like a dilution machine though so at least he would've seen that coming and known to have one foot out the door on that investment at all times.

>> No.19697133

>>19694131
China is fucking with us. If they lock up, they know everyone else will panic and ultimately fucking up their economies even more.

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>>19696649

Or dont sell and participate in the economy recovering from memes

>> No.19697197

>>19697133
China has over 20M cases. No need to lock down.

>> No.19697213

>>19697197
laowei, delete this message. It is well known that there are only 80k cases in China, the virus basically evoporated after this number was reached.

>> No.19697235
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I want stocks to fall hard on mon/tues so I can buy back in but what if they don't go back down and I end up missing out on the economy recovering because I wanted to wait for the lowest point to buy in?

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>>19697235
It's going to go back up, should I just buy in or am I going to keep waiting, you tell me /biz/.

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>>19697213
I’m so glad Trump cut off funding to the WHO and severed ties with them. Other nations will be looking at doing the same thing now. They literally helped fuck the entire world.

>> No.19697266

>>19697242
I don’t give financial advice. I can only tell you what I did. I’m already all in and I’m not selling

>> No.19697281

>>19697242
I have so many leveraged calls on AAL since Thursday...who really knows...a few airlines will get bankrupt for sure.

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>https://nhentai.net

>> No.19697290

>>19694823
You're wrong. It would be stagnant.

>> No.19697293

>>19697242
Cash flow nigga; read their financial statements and ask yourself if they’ll have revenue to cover costs till next summer. Otherwise you’re betting on a government bailout.

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>>19695040

>> No.19697310

>>19697281
I’m not sure all these Airlines are going to survive this.

>> No.19697314

>>19697141
>economy recovering
the only card propping up this fragile house is the idea the the FED can inflate away the crash. This might actually be possible on paper. It will require a few more trillion dollar coins to be minted, but they might do it.

>the year is 2021
>an enormous percentage of America is unemployed and anyone with a job is a McWagie on $5/h
>almost everyone's personal savings have dried up
>the spending has stopped and the business have gone under
>the debt these businesses had taken on in the guise of CLOs has to be written off the books
>the banks, suddenly finding themselves extremely overleveraged, start calling in mortgages
>nobody can pay them, so the bans sell out from under them
>but nobody can afford a house either, everyone is living with their parents
>house prices drop dramatically, taking anyone with a mortgage down with them
>anon looks outside his basement window in the warming glow of flames as the real riots begin
>helicopters fly over the crowd, dropping millions of newly minted $1,200 notes
>he turns back to /biz/, perfectly content
>turns on his monitor for another day of GREEN BULLS BABY
>'it's okay', he tells himself. 'stonks only go up'

>> No.19697321

>>19697305
Their 'Medallion' fund which is their short-term day trading fund is still up 20% YTD.

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>>19697283

>> No.19697339
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>>19697281
AAL I can see not doing too well, it's been going down steadily for the last couple years. I really want to buy back into DAL but I almost won't get myself to do it because I bought in at 35$ and sold at 26$ expecting it to keep going down and buying in at a lower point, now it's back up to 30$ and I just want it to drop again to 25$ so I can buy and feel good about myself.

>> No.19697390

>>19697266
Betting against Buffet? Bold choice

>> No.19697508

>>19697235
I ask myself that question everyday
I usually think it will go down and so far i have almost every time been wrong

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>CPE, WLL, OAS was under a dollar at one point
Why didn't these oil stocks see the same treatment as those three?

>> No.19697599

>>19697508
I do think SPY is going to drop a good bit though.

>> No.19697608

so whats our theory, monday green day, blowoff day might go up like 5% or so, tuesday start of the crash?

>> No.19697613

>>19697608
kangaroo all week

>> No.19697615

>>19697599
Same
Dipping into 29

>> No.19697667

I was told to get outta UCO. Worth getting out of Monday or hold till end of week? What do you think?

>> No.19697741

>>19697667

Lmao, just looked up UCO, looks like a great way to make your money disappear.

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>>19696677
Inflation RN.

I'll stick to modern inflation tracking methods.

Food prices are going up though at 4%. I'm expecting inflation, but nothing apparent until after a treatment/vaccine.

>>19695105
Why Boeing?

Because all "recovery" stocks go up and down at the same time. You mine as well take the safer pick of the litter as the US military needs Boeing to exist. The government can let Carnival, American Airlines and MGM go bankrupt....but not Boeing.

Equal reward, lower risk.

>> No.19697921

>>19690315
Daily reminder to NOT buy HTZ.

https://robintrack.net/symbol/HTZ?symbol=HTZ

>> No.19698044

>>19697883

You are living under a rock if you don't think inflation is high. Many measures are close to 10%. The government increasing subsidizing food, energy, and people slowly downgrading their lifestyle is what keeps people from realizing it.

That said, inflation is not necessary good for stocks prices. Both supply and demand are fucked, and company's costs will increase as well. They won't make money so they will have to sell equity to stay afloat. Dividends will be cut, buy backs will be stopped (already have mostly), and lost of companies have already started issuing more shares to shore up their finances. Market capitalization of companies may increase with inflation, but not stock price.

>The government can let Carnival, American Airlines and MGM go bankrupt....but not Boeing.

Just because a company still exists doesn't mean the stock won't be worthless.

>> No.19698173

>>19697321
The funds on the red are probably not on the red an all trades. Overall performance is still terrible for RT.

>> No.19698194

>>19697921
Just bought 100k.

>> No.19698258

>>19697667
>UCO
>>19697741
whats wrong with i thought its set to go up once crude oil goes back to normal?

>> No.19698275

Has anyone else has the sense to buy vygr yet?

>> No.19698289

>>19690315
puts pfff . this nigga wants puts. fuck yo puts nigga. fuck yo roth ira having faggot ass nigga. stops represent... nigga

>> No.19698300

>>19696986
>>19697104
When I bought in at ATH I was absolutely on FOMO, and that was absolutely stupid and my fault. One of the reasons I did it was because I looked at the fundamentals and prospects of the companies I was buying, compared them to the rest of the cannabis industry and I thought they were a bargain. When I averaged down later I was doing it completely based on fundamentals of what I was buying compared to the rest of the industry. At the time when I was buying in, analysts were projecting the cannabis industry to be much bigger and more profitable than it turned out to be. Fundamentals and prospects all seemed to point to profit, and growth.

The problem was that everything was overvalued enough that ALL fundamentals were out of line, so there wasn't really a proper baseline for comparison within the industry. If I had been comparing fundamentals to other industries, the problems likely would have been obvious. Plus the ongoing fact that fundamentals are increasingly irrelevant to stock performance over "short" (like 3+ year) timeframes, even profitable companies can see years of stock decline (certainly some of my holdings have) even while zombie companies can have stock continue to climb.

Anyway, I learned a few things from this experience.

1. I will never buy ATH, even if I think it is supported by fundamentals or technicals.
2. I will never buy stock that is getting significant/frequent media attention.
3. I will never buy into a fledgling company or industry unless I am completely prepared to lose the entire gamble, and therefore I should invest less.
4. I need to pick better comparisons for fundamentals.

>> No.19698390

>>19698258

Look at the price history of UCO. If oil dives again, UCO will probably get murdered 90% again, while the upside is like 50% at best? Oil is pretty high right now, not much upside.

>> No.19698437

>>19698300
>Current year +5

>fundamentals mattering.

NGMI

>> No.19698449

DAL @ 40 soon.. Then I'm gone. Roll it into something else. Market will be all green and shit next week cause of the virus drug updates and updated (higher) travel numbers. Or at least I hope anyway.

>> No.19698518

>>19698390
I'm really hoping it jumps up soon, i saw JPmorgan dropped a fuckload on it

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Retail panic selling with weak hands the last few days literally prepped the bull for the big bank kikes

Stocks are already at a discount, some gave them another 20%+ further off

Why do you always let them win?

>> No.19698644

>>19698609
AMPY, DAL, GDXJ, MVIS, SSL, TWO, UCO.
This is what I have. Any suggestions?

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>>19698644
Some are solid, some are memes but I've whittled stock depressed by corona in a few different sectors in addition to yours to.....

HAL and either RDSB or XOM

MGM literally prints money when open and has plenty to keep it going, people are itching to get out and it will bounce, maybe another leisure stock like CCL or EXPE

TSN, SYY or maybe CHEF

RUTH, PLAY or DENN

WFC

CLF, ARNC

LUV, SAVE

Although a 2nd wave or bad corona news will tank these more than the overall market....

>> No.19698802

>>19698609
>Buying or selling anything based on what the big boys publishes for retailers to read
You're poor, aren't you?

>> No.19698834

>>19697608
No, you hope Monday will be green, get it straight. Since every other dickhead thinks so too, it surely won't be

>> No.19698841

>>19698609
>Nobody knows Shit
>Financial Analyst from JPMG says new bull run, target up to 3.5k
>Financial Analyst from Goldman says bear market soon, fair value 2.6k
>Financial Analyst from JPMG says, bear market very likely
>Financial analyst from Goldman says, bull market confirmed

>> No.19698853

>>19698609
delusion immediately precedes the 'return to normal'.
>rapid economic recover from the coronavirus pandemic
Well, JP? Is the stock market a reflection of the economy or not? If so, you are in the biggest bubble in history and if not, you're inflating it into meaninglessness. You can't have it both ways

>> No.19698866

>>19698609

Does JPM, knowing stonks will go up 47% by EoY, put their money where their mouth is? Are they all in SPX 4000 calls? Of course not, what these banks say and do are never the same, and their predictions are almost never right.

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>>19698802
i've not bought/sold anything off the back of that news fren

i'll just continue to hold

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>>19694356
Same here anon I made 200k off a 20k investment buying airline cruise company and hotel puts pre chinkflu based on well thought out rationale,and now I've lost 100k of that betting on the dead cat bounce that wasn't on nothing more than a hunch and still bleeding out around 3k on puts every fucking day. I know I should just sell everything now and get out with what's left but its tough to make that call. I'm going to see what happens on Monday. If markets are green I'm selling and red I'm holding

>> No.19698887

Hmmm..

>> No.19698942 [DELETED] 

Don't get why y'all doing robinhood. Its just too basic, no screener, no premarket trading.... more like a kid trading platform.

Y'all need to be on webull already. It's simple enough to use with lots of feature. It also has premarket trading.. signup for it here snd start making the premarket money

https://act.webull.com/t/Q2LGgBe5rN3j/eto/us_na_invite_year02

>> No.19699044

>>19698877
It should never be a tough decision to cut losses short. You should always cut losses. You take that L while it's small and manageable every single time, no exceptions.

>> No.19699054

>>19698942
Holy shit the crypto guys weren't lying about Indian shills.

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monday is the day WE CRASH THIS SHITSHOW

>> No.19699521

>>19698942
kys shill

>> No.19699565

>>19698390 #

UCO changed their business model after the march crash.
They are no more solely base on WTI price
They are less volatile now

>> No.19699721

>>19699054
>>19699521

Lol...

Just tell me one thing robinhood does better that webull

>> No.19699748

>>19699721
>posts a referral link
>lol what did i do wrong

fucking jannies do your job.

>> No.19699888

>>19699565

Just bite the bullet and open a big boy futures account. What is the point of these commodity etfs?

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