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>Bullion dealers

>Constitutional/"junk" silver info



>Bullion tax info by state:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZCL6FKQZyoM [Open] [Embed] [Embed]

Nitric Acid
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3mg9YcAShTo [Open] [Embed] [Embed]
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NgSXg-WOEVY [Open] [Embed] [Embed]

https://www.youtube.com/user/silverguru David Morgan

>> No.19684658

Old thread >>19668281

>> No.19684666
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Hey everyone remember me?

>> No.19684723

>no depiction of a harmonica
I can see why everyone hates these

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They could have been so much better

>> No.19684811

>what are harmonics

>> No.19684971

Explain this chart to me like im a retard because I am a retard.

>> No.19685056

when stocks bad for the second time in a row, gold good.

>> No.19685094

Guys when will Monarch have chunkies back in stock? Literally the only form of silver I want to collect. I want to fill a bathtub with them.

>> No.19685145

>What do you mean with ''everybody dumping philharmonics''?

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I'm the author of the post. I was just pointing out to the person to whom I was replying that it is not _necessarily_ the case that, if we get a second leg down on the stock market, gold stocks will crash too. I gave the example of Homestake Mining, which, as you see from the chart, went up 87% at the same time as the Dow went down 85%. Over the next several years, Homestake Mining went on to perform extremely well, eventually going up 500%; a circumstance which puts the lie to the notion that gold does not thrive under deflationary conditions.

It may well be true, for all we know, that gold stocks will crash with the market again; but, because that isn't a certainty, I'm only holding 33% of my net-worth in cash, and retaining my 66% precious-metals position.


>> No.19685275

Reminder that this thread from yesterday was extremely based and everyone here should read:

Bookmark it in the archives too: >>https://warosu.org/biz/thread/S19669109

>> No.19685315
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copper stackers assemble!

>> No.19685399

Would it be advisable to buy mining stocks right now? Recently I purchased some

Hecla Mining
First Majestic
Golden Minerals Co
Skeena Resources
Pure Gold Mining
Pretium Resources

I was thinking also Seabridge and Artemis. What do you guys think? What miners do you own or are looking at yourself?

I want to pick up a few more.

>> No.19685597

They’re recognized as an ugly, unwanted coin. They’re good for melting though because of how cheap they are.

>> No.19685620


It's possible we may get a second leg down in mining stocks, especially if the markets melt down again. It's not a certainty, but it is a possibility. So you might only want to buy a part of your position now and wait to see if the prices drop later. I'm hedging with 33% cash.


According to David Brady, miners may go down somewhat in the short-term, but will really take off to new heights once the market crashes and the Fed has to prop it up again with a cap on yields.

>> No.19685643

Can someone explain why Canada’s maple leaf coins have a British Queen on them

>> No.19685673

Rhymes with Cuckiskstan

>> No.19685694

Based. Best thread on /biz/ of 2020

>> No.19685696

I can't tell if this is satirical or not.

>> No.19685702

how much is that worth? Five cents?

>> No.19685707

Elizabeth II of Britain is also the Queen of Canada.

>> No.19685719

Lithium is used in batteries. Buy ALB.

>> No.19685729

Queen Elizabeth II of Britain is also Queen of Canada.

Seriously though, why do mutts get so buttblasted and obsessed about this? Why do you even care that the symbolic figurehead of your neighbouring country has a monarch?

>> No.19685734

I thought French people owned Canada? Pls excuse my american education

>> No.19685735

Downloaded. If any of you faggots out there aren't shitcoin scam artists, shills, or just lurking for memes, this is the occasional diamond in the rough advice you need.

>> No.19685770

Do Canadians atleast get to vote for the queen or do they just have to accept whoever gets elected

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the copper, worth aprox. $3.50
the memes,.... priceless

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>> No.19685917

Literally impossible to be this stupid. These people are trolling.

>> No.19685945


That may take another 6 to 8 years

>> No.19685969

Well except if you're a litteral boomer, this is not a problem.

>> No.19685989

Yeah it was the best thread I've ever read on biz and I've been here since the inception. Ctrl+S'd that motherfucker for safekeeping.

Not even the autistic LINK research threads of 2017/2018 can touch it in terms of quality OC and idea synthesis.

>> No.19686032


Impossible when yields are this low. In 2008, nominal yields were still 5%. That's how ten years of Q. E. could cause this long bull-run in stocks. The economy is much sicker because of it. Now yields are only 0.7%, inflation is much worse, and even 1% yields might crash the market. In fact, the market might crash even as it is. If yields spike, which could happen any day now, the market will definitely crash. The Fed isn't offering enough Q. E. to suppress yields and prop this bubble up. That's why we had the massive sell-off yesterday. Without YCC and or negative Fed funds, this market will probably collapse.

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Check out this thread too, another great one for the bookmarks

Ctrl+F for OP's ID "DqWJwyDo" and read those at least, but the entire thread is good.

For some reason archived.moe doesn't save images so there's warosu (but that doesn't show IDs):

Is there a better biz archive than those two?

>> No.19686167

You are so fucking clueless, my dear npc

>> No.19686197

Is this advanced samefagging? The thread was fucking average at best...

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Holy based, you are the best, fren!

>> No.19686265

Actually French Canadians are a major tv trope in the states. France has more to do with Canada than england

>> No.19686279

Yes it's so advanced that four people who all agree on something decided to collude and samefag together. 200 IQ

>> No.19686285

Compare that thread to what's currently in the catalogue faggot. We're living in idiocracy.

>> No.19686312

You see them growing? Why them in particular

>> No.19686326

That's a solid $1-2 worth of copper you got there.

>> No.19686568

Where's a good place to get fractional gold low premium?

>> No.19686628
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Here's my small and humble stack, I hope to join the ranks of floor stacker and >>19675930 one day. Also planning on getting a nice rifle once I get enough capital as well, I recommend all stackers invest into protection as well, what's the use of silver if someone can just take it from you.

>> No.19686731 [DELETED] 

turn sepia off next time

>> No.19686734

How fractional we talking? 1/10ozt? 1/2-gram? Shot?

>> No.19686778

1oz of Plat or the equivalent in BTC? I have plenty of gold and silver already

>> No.19686839

When it comes to lithium mining 4 companies control almost all of it. Two are Chinese and as a general rule you never invest in China (see the china hustle, luckin covfefe, etc.) And the other one is a south American shitshow where the entire continent's national past time is civil war and nationalization.

Narrows it down fast.

>> No.19686942

1/4 ozt

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>> No.19687033

You're going to go camping for a week there anon?

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>> No.19687063

Just do 50lb bags of rice and beans, everclear, bic lighters, iodine, and ammunition if you feel the need to prep food.

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More like a year

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What is plenty of silver? When silver moons you're going to wish you could go back in time and put every cent into it.

>> No.19687158

What's the problem with philharmonics? I think they're cool.

>> No.19687166

Thats about a week. I used to backpack through mountains, I hope you are trolling breh.

>> No.19687214

There’s like 200 packs of tuna, spam, and chicken salad in there. I’d like to think you wouldn’t eat that in a week

>> No.19687224 [DELETED] 

I went to japan, a small asain man can live on just 800 calories a day

>> No.19687230

I've bought from apmex and jmbullion - one 1/2ozt and one 1/4ozt. Premiums on those sites are comparable.

UPMA I think is the best as far as premium/spot but I haven't used them yet.

>> No.19687252

average european/white american is 6'3 though, not comparable

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These boys be going like crazy, they had around 1k few hours ago, now they are down to 350


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Not going to lay it out, this pic is like a year old. Doubled my shelf stables since then

>> No.19687299

Interesting, thanks for the tip friend.

>> No.19687313

What is your TDEE? 400 rofl? Do us both a favor anon. Add up the calories off all that shit and divide by 2,500. Thats how many days it is. People eat tuna to lose weight. Go for either nonperishable staples like rice/beans/oil or go light/mobile and get calorie dense shit like nuts and chocolate. Thats why packpackers eat trail mix.

Not being a dick just do the math. I want to see how close I was.

t. /k/ and nonfondled Eagle Scout and general fuckin hick.

>> No.19687342

Where the fuck do I sell physical silver? I've been buying it off of dieing old boomers for a few years now at $14.50/oz. but without ever any sort of exit plan. I have to have hundreds of ounces in a safe in a chest under my stairs.

>> No.19687360

I mean, it's good to have this, but if you don't have rice and/or pasta with it, you're going to run out of food pretty quickly.

>> No.19687376

I live in south Florida these are just my hurricane rations if things ever get bad. I’d estimate this would last my family of 4 atleast 2 weeks of comfortable eating.

>> No.19687400

My pantry is stocked with a few pounds of various pastas. Few pounds of flour, rice, and beans as well

>> No.19687439

Rice and beans in a tupperware anon with salt and oil is what I'd recommend on top if you got the space. 50 lbs of it. Cheap af you got nothing to lose basically.

>> No.19687448

I’ll buy it if you happen to live in florida

>> No.19687470

don't know what an pound is, sorry. Just buy one of pic related, this is the best investment you can make, way better than PMs.

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fprgot pic lmao

>> No.19687507

Virgina, sorry friend. I don't want to sell right now either way, I simply haven't looked where to sell at without being completely jewed.

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bean stackers report in

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>seasoned with bacon and brown suger
Do americans really?

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What's the problem

>> No.19687684

It is very common to season bead with bacon and brown sugar in america. Brown sugar is one of the most important ingredients when it comes to BBQ

>> No.19687723

>American flavored

>> No.19687727
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I stack ethnic foods too.

>> No.19687777

Made with american tit tad tiddy milk

>> No.19687926

Canada used to be a collection of British and French colonies. Brian and France of course also engaged in war. Quebec and parts of New Brunswick and Ontario had a large population of Frenchie's, who than became property of her Majesty.

The French remain a sizable(but still minority) group in Canada.... But you wouldn't know it with how much Quebec bitchs about it. Almost admirable how much they hate Anglo culture.... Now if only they could direct that towards immigrants.

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>American flavour
>Made with processed Americans

>> No.19688117

What is that?

>> No.19688183

Biscoff. There really good little cookies. I eat them with my coffee most mornings.

>> No.19688599

This anime faggot ruined the general.

>> No.19688670

Yep time to buy I guess.
I've been saving money in hopes of buying a house or for emergencies but since I'm getting some of that virus but I'll spend a few more on pms/stocks.
Unfortunately, I'm trying to enrol in university so I won't be able to earn money for the upcoming semesters if I make it in. Hopefully, if things aren't too bad I can earn by then and begin stocking up.

>> No.19688806

How do I stop cooming so much?

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>> No.19688864

Somebody posted last thread that they had 5k to spend, I was thinking they should go 3k silver, 1k gold, and 1k gold/silver mining stocks. Does this seem reasonable or is all silver better?

>> No.19688906

Seriously I coom at least twice a day and I'd like to stop before I go bald, how do I stop?!?!?

>> No.19688912

Personally I’d go all in on 10oz bars. 250 ounces of silver is a great starting point.

>> No.19689149

Checked and keked

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Bought my first bars today

>> No.19689470

>average european/white american is 6'3 though

>> No.19689480

Nice monarchs

>> No.19689502

Your anime figure is cringe.

>> No.19689512

manlet cope

>> No.19689605

You should probably stop mentioning where you stash your hoard.

>> No.19689658

Is this the indoor ranching of pmg?

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Whaddya guys think?

>> No.19689987

You need to have things to do, if you're a NEET it'll be harder to do since you have too much time on your hands but things like working out, cleaning your house, and trying to pick up a hobby could help as well. If you're able, maybe pickup projects around the house like adding new shelves or making your yard more visually appealing.

>> No.19689990

>classic SilverTowne bars
>merc dimes
looks like your gonna make it fren

>> No.19690045

Not sure who mentioned the channel in the last thread, but robfindstreasure is going to be streaming in a little over half an hour. Go there a little early so you can enter.

Those aren't Merc dimes. Those are fractional silver rounds, probably 1/10 oz if I had to guess.

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>> No.19690056

Where do I buy merc dimes that dont look like shit

>> No.19690065

>Those aren't Merc dimes.
FWTDHWs might not know the difference

>> No.19690092

form an alliance with a network of FWTDHWs

>> No.19690369

Thanks man :)

>formerly well to do

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just my junk. i have all mints and dates for those war nickels.

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>be me
>make new acquisitions
>brag to coworkers
>bring in a few inexpensive pieces to show them what its like to hold real money
>someone always asks
>"Anon, one day you gotta sit down with me and help me buy some silver"
>"I mean I'll show you what I know but if you wanted to see a return in your lifetime you should have bought a little each year before shit started folding in on itself."
Similar stories for folks looking at buying a gun for the first time rn

>> No.19690469

your anime figure is cringe. i hope you're not participating in hot glue threads

>> No.19690486

I really don't think it's too late to get in on silver yet, 99.9% of normies would never think about buying it, even in these crazy times.

>> No.19690531

They'd be happier, since there's more silver in that than an actual Merc.

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>"I mean I'll show you what I know but if you wanted to see a return in your lifetime you should have bought a little each year before shit started folding in on itself."
It doesn't deter them, in fact they tend to develop a sense of urgency and pester me later for links to PM dealers.

Course I'm happy to oblige.

>> No.19690573

respectable boomer stack

>> No.19690595
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Am I going to make it bros?

>> No.19690643

Here's my sad stacklet pile. How much do I need to make it?

Sweet Jesus I am envious.

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Dropped pic

>> No.19690670

That’s a good sized down payment on a house or business. Well done

>> No.19690695

Estonia is the best place to buy silver in europe?

>> No.19690703

Very aesthetic silver. Have you looked into snagging any good ducats. Very sexy gold with low premiums

>> No.19690708

That's my next gold-buy. That or the walking-liberty half commem, whichever comes first.

>> No.19690714

ordered 25 Britannia's for 20.63ea, kind of expensive to be honest, and I know prices are going to go down more... but its been a couple weeks since I bought any silver so I wanted to splurge lol
although if I end up going to the dentist from this tooth fragment coming out of my gums, i'm going to be annoyed for spending money on silver lol

>> No.19690718

Gold ducats*

>> No.19690732

Don't care for the kike stuff, but not bad. If you can get more quickly though, like say, at a local coin shop, do so. Recommend you get generic for weight. That, or go for a bunch of Constitutional (Merc dimes are a must, after all).

You're good on government bullion coins so far.

>> No.19690782

Yeah, I just cant's afford gold right now. I'm unemployed, just out of school type deal. I basically spend a majority of what I make under the table on silver. I do own an ancient silver ducat though.

I get most of my things from coin dealers. Just bought my bars there today. I'm a Cali fag, so everything is mostly closed due to the virus. Drove 2 hours to get silver. I only paid $4-6 over spot for my most of my Britannia and no tax. I have a good relationship with my dealers, they let me buy the nicer coins with little or no premium. I want to buy mercs, but they rarely come in. My dad buys them every time so I can't get any. I sold all of my walkers for ancients 'bout a year ago.

>> No.19690994

the hammer and sickle, chains, starved looking bird...
the fuck anon. did it become starved after it adopted communism lol
damn under 20 euros, as a American that sounds like a great price...
anon you got 2 decent options, online stores are reliable and usually pay out almost as much as they claim lol, I've sold to one before and the price they quoted was like 10 or 15 cents lower then their site claimed... second and usually better is the local coin dealers, since you don't have to pay shipping and insurance this guys usually even out in price compared to the large online places.
avoid pawn shops, most won't even pay spot on govt coins. and local in person deals are best, but I would suggest all partys being heavily armed since you're dealing with a lot of cash...

>> No.19691005


The premium sucks but its practical.

You could truthfully make a business of just breaking it and selling the 1g you would make around a 10% ROI doing it.

I'd like to change the random 1oz gold bars into Buffalos and sell off the 10oz SGB bars for maybe another PAMP or Asahi Kilo.

I basically started off with no goal just buying things at low premiums and seeing where it took me.

>> No.19691028

This is a make it stack

>> No.19691055

those mountain house products are absolute garbage, full of hydrogenated oil and other nasties. you should consume exactly 0g of those trans fat.

>> No.19691078 [DELETED] 

I have always loved silver.

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>> No.19691098

Get aids and die

>> No.19691170

You can scalp bars and coins on ebay

>> No.19691253

anon rarely do I feel a hostile response is best, but this is a PMG thread. please do the needful an hero...

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stay strong and keep on stacking frens

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Time to start stacking gold or should I stay after silver?
>250oz silver and 1oz gold ministacklet

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>> No.19691345

Why no linker?

>> No.19691370

It's really not too late, silver has been essentially flat for half a decade, accumulation period.

>> No.19691394


Yep still considering ordering at least 15 even tough that'll strain this months budget

Down to 140 roos left there

>> No.19691399

I would suggest some kilo bars next. i'm to cheap to get any myself, even though i doubt i be able to hold it once it hits 60/oz (or about $1930 for the bar) which i mean 2 grand really isn't to much money to walk into a coin shop and expect to get at one time, i figure i could probably get away with 3 or 4 thousand in sales at one time if i brought ASE's

>> No.19691416

just got some pamp suisse gold in to add with my silver and man did the erection i got from it last for a while

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im going to keep stacking mainly silver for, betting on a correction to the gold:silver value ratio to make silver go up .
no clue if it will ever happen though

>> No.19691432

Steamboat-willie in the mix. You're gonna make it anon.

>> No.19691476

anon, we all want to make money. but i don't think its worth it to eat ramen noodles now to collect enough silver to possibly not have to eat ramen noodles later lol
so maybe only get 10 and not worry about your budget so much

>> No.19691503

This is going to sound stupid, but I've avoided gram and kilo weights because it's easier for me to understand value since price is by ounce.

They will probably be harder to unload, but I absolutely love the 100oz bars

>> No.19691508

I usually get
>how are you going to go down to the super market and buy a loaf of bread for one ounce.

I just realized people are retarded and I just keep my mouth shout.

>> No.19691521

Yeah, that's why I have so much silver. My understanding is that there is plenty of silver in mines, but they just don't mine it because it isn't worth it yet.

>> No.19691546

right, i feel ya, i had to memorize a kilo is 32.15 oz
the hundred oz bars should have demand since they're used in exchanges, and i think an online dealer would gladly buy them just the same. but expect do enough business that tax forms get filled out... i know that's something a lot of think about. because you can only unload so much in a year without having to pay capital gains tax (or income tax if acquired in the same yr) at least for us burgers

>> No.19691579


Fair enough, wouldn't be hungry or anything. I'd just be low on cash for the month, restricting social bullishit and joydriving.

>> No.19691588

I’m the exact same way. Ounces or fractions only for me.

>> No.19691609

What are some good stocks or just miners to get into right now

>> No.19691633

The true red pill is knowing that you'll get the same price per ounce for an immaculate krugerrand as a scratched up 100 Oz bar when you go to sell to a dealer.

>> No.19691675


I was trying to be nice. Please take your silver shit somewhere else this is a crypto board and this is a containment thread. You're the equivalent of /ptg/ you fucking boomers.

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>summoning PanMan

>> No.19691716

I'm too tired or stupid to understand what you are getting at

>> No.19691727

i disagree, but to be fair if the place your selling to has plenty of a certain coin, then they will buy it for spot just to sell to a mint.
i go for 1oz coins, prices are similar and its a lot easier to unload in smaller amounts, but my ASE's should always fetch a higher premium then a 100oz bar

>> No.19691730

i felt this way and still do sort of. but my feeling now is the bigger the stack gets, the more of a pain in the butt it is to have a bunch of single 1oz pieces compared to equivalent amounts in multi oz pieces like 10oz bars, for ease of moving and storage operations

>> No.19691745

Sell to others on Ebay or Offerup when dealing with aesthetic silver. 100 oz bars are hard to dump on the general public bc most people don't save that kind of money to afford it. It's why I avoid bars, as much as I like them. I trade with regular people too much. If I was someone who bought silver extremely low to dump fast on a dealer when it spikes for spot, I'd buy bars. Silver just doesn't move fast enough for that.

>> No.19691748

That’s the beauty of stacking ASE. You’ll always get over spot. Especially if this premiums trend continues

>> No.19691750

What possible reason could there be for stocking silver? I've been seeing Info wars type adds for silver price booms for as long as I can remember and nothing has come of it.
Why not just some stable ETF's or bonds? Short ETF's if you think the market will go down soon?
If you think it's the end times, Ammo supplies and seeds seem like a better choice.

>> No.19691761

You’re the guy who goes into containment threads to complain.

>> No.19691763

You replied with the wrong device, shill.

>> No.19691771 [DELETED] 


What up fool, I just got off the mountain.

I had a run in with the Hell's Angel's today. They shook me down and took the entire contents of my pan. Lucky for me, I always shove anything larger than a gram up my ass as soon as I find it. Walked away with about 0.75 Oz of ass nuggets today boys. Overall not a bad day, going to try the same spot tomorrow.

>> No.19691774

You misunderstand. I have ten ounce bars. I mean I only buy standard measurements

>> No.19691781

But I already have ammo and seeds. Not to mention nonperishable food for a family of five for a year...

>> No.19691782

>Especially if this premiums trend continues
It will. Forever from now on. They saw retards will still buy and keep their stocks dry of silver and gold even at outrageous premiums so now they have no incentive to go back.

Get ready for

>BLACK FRIDAY BLOWOUT!!!!!!! $12 over spot Silver Eagles!
>4th July Sale!!!!! $5.99 over spot generic rounds!!

>> No.19691794

good to hear you and your anus are in good condition lol

>> No.19691827

I can't stand anime, but I do love admiring silver from a distance.

the man has a nice stack

>> No.19691842

sadly i agree, i think dealers realized people will buy regardless of what spot says. to be fair spot should have only been used to industrial applications.
its not really the same thing as a company needing a 1000oz of silver every month for parts, and johnny buying a pretty ASE every week when he gets paid.

>> No.19691874

ah, oh now i see. sorry anon. heh, i was confused there.

>> No.19691878

Mints and dealers are still competing with each other so unless a cartel forms, supply/demand still rules premiums.

Most people don't know this but gold nuggets out of the ground have a thin layer of zinc residue on the surface. It's like God's own Preperation H.

>> No.19691905

>Ass nuggets

I'm fucking dead that's hilarious

>> No.19691921

what is the premium on golden dingleberrys

>> No.19691981
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currently 25% over spot. The two dealers I sell too in Vancouver are selling for 75%. Little pieces like this are going for $100 lately.

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whats been happening in the rest of the world, I ve been busy. Why are the markets going down again, did I miss something big again? Got this today though from a 9 yard test so that was nice. Great ground.

>> No.19692080

the lord works in mysterious ways....

damn that's a lot of money, i knew there was a market for that natural gold. but that premium is impressive.

>> No.19692120

its because of how rare real nuggets are getting. Even the big placer mines in the Yukon are only producing a third of the volume of course gold they used to. I personally believe its because everyone's hoarding them instead of selling, but even I ve had a hard time the last few years finding pickers over 2-3 grams.

>> No.19692124

i heard the markets are down in fears of a second wave of corona, maybe millions of people out protesting wasn't the best idea...

but its my understanding only major protests on the west coast the rest have died down

>> No.19692141

I heard of a few protests in the major cities in Vancouver, Seattles a dumpster fire right? Last I saw there were Antifa idiots rioting.

>> No.19692149

those protesters shod have been rounded up and shot

>> No.19692174

i'll check, i heard conflicting reports about seatle, some people were saying that autonomous zone was already breaking down and others were saying its going strong...
as long as they don't destroy shit i don't really care, but yeah the ones burning down buildings and looting, i have no problem shooting them

>> No.19692182

Short answer, markets are down because it's the top of the dead cat bounce.

Retail investors have been flooding into the stock market in record numbers. Normies have been "investing" (gambling) so much that they are stopping out institutional investors. They're making the charts insane, look at the Hertz chart mooning AFTER Hertz declared bankruptcy.

So basically the market is red hot off a bunch of idiots stimulus money, everyone knows there's a 2nnd corona wave that'll be worse, and people are still losing their jobs & jobs aren't coming back. There was a federal reserve meeting Wednesday that apparently sufficiently spooked everyone enough to start the waterfall down to SPX <200.

>> No.19692242

Ok an "autonomous zone" appeared?? fuck things are going bonkers.

also yea thats what i thought was going to happen to the markets, but i was hoping it would take longer.

>> No.19692243

Post seed stack

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The autonomous zone is mostly a joke now, it's a bunch of spoiled man children living out their half-baked check Guevara fantasies, it honestly discredits the movement more than anything & has completely killed the momentum of the protests in Seattle.


>> No.19692352

eat niggerdicks in curry golem hell

>> No.19692362

yeah i saw photos of this a couple days ago, they literally put cardboard down, put like 2 inches of top soil on it and put some plants in it. the pics i saw also seemed to show they weren't watering them enough lol

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that look of total failure in the corner, dude kneeling like hes failed his master. Brutal. The card board thing though is a legit way to setup a fast garden, but they havent done it right. What a joke.

Also heres some more random ore, I think this stuffs mostly decomposed iron sulfides with a bit of free mill gold in it, but assay I had done while I was in town had an anomalous rhodium count. Might have to look for more. The stuff was used as road fill.

>> No.19692382

Got any mining stock tips for us plebs

>> No.19692393
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Is there really any point to buying any silver other than the cheapest currently available 10oz secondary market bars? Plus maybe a small survival stack of mercs or something in case I need to barter for cigs during a mad max apocalypse. But other than that, isn't silver silver?

>> No.19692421

Nothing at the moment, I still have no idea whats going on with that Blackwater project, two of my mates are technical geologists there working for New Gold and they dont know when the deal between them and Artemis is getting finalized. If the weather says shit for a few days I ll move camp to Likely and set myself up with some internet and have a trawl for you guys.

>> No.19692475

Don't laugh but I used to be a UBI proponent. After watching what millennials and zoomers have done with their stimulus checks, I have no choice but to conclude that UBI would never work.

What makes it so bad is these people are in more dire straits than someone on a UBI would normally be. They are suddenly out of a job and behind on bills. They are in WORSE STRAITS than someone on regular UBI would be, which means there should be MORE PRESSURE to spend their stimulus checks on essentials. And yet they still just turn right the fuck around and fucking gamble it away on Hertz calls. Absolutely disgusting.

>> No.19692481

ha hah

>> No.19692543

kek dont do this
your going to make him use a trip

>> No.19692548

Has anyone ever ordered of JM Bullion and paid with crypto?

I have half an ETH laying in my metamask wallet and want to get my dad some silver for fathers day but don't want to end up on like some crypto watch list or pay a ton of hidden fees or something.

>> No.19692574

lol heres a youtube clip from tucker Carlson about the autonomous zone... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4HBGQAHnGNo
kind of, bullion is a collector thing. but even with really low demand you should always be able to offload it under spot to be sold for industrial uses...
its not the same anon, people would treat them as any other unreliable source, and force them to have their money deposited into the companies account. and that company would pay the rent and what not for a small fee

>> No.19692598

not i anon, but when i looked into it. most sites will have a detailed FAQ or how to guide on how they do it

>> No.19692635

David here. I hope everyone forgot about me.

>> No.19692661

It's because housing, healthcare, food, everything is a HUMAN RIGHT.

You could give everyone $1200 every month and half the population would spend it on robinhood options and Nintendo Switches. They'd then turn around and demand rent freezes, free healthcare, and more food stamps because the alternative is them going homeless and hungry. Since politicians face no consequences for debasing the currency they'll just fire up the printer at the expense of future generations.

>> No.19692702

im sorry anon i think someone sold you coper

>> No.19692716

hell my govs not even going to try and punish CERB fraudsters anymore, I have no idea how were going to end up paying for this covid fiasco and the gun ban the liberals put up.

>> No.19692721

yeah, the nigger graffiti vandalism really makes it look classy and healthy and all live off the land back to nature wholesome and healthy and right

>> No.19692966

apmex has barber dimes, quarters and halves on sale. i might pull the trigger.

10 face quarters and halves for 176, and 5 face dimes for 91

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>found a new country (sort of)
>immediately shit it up by graffitti-ing ACAB on everything
>get bored of rebelling and call up seattle public works to clean up the graffitti
>call goes straight to voicemail

>> No.19693022

mow your lawn david

nah jk lad ur gud

>> No.19693289


Ahh, ok, so you guys are preppers. Cool, just checking.
I have 40k rutabaga/ parsnip/turnip seeds.
I'm gonna be a ROOT BOY

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>> No.19693386

Need 200k to make it EACH

>> No.19693764

>not growing radishes
what are you even doing

>> No.19693792

the "autonomous zone" is a complete fucking joke. these are trust fund hippies doing a bad LARP, not even on the level of SCA or RenFaire. it's a very boring woke block party that doesn't know when to stop.
Trump is likely seeing memes about it and getting riled up (for example that territory map was drawn up as a joke, which should've been obvious given it had "regime-occupied Safeway" on it)
t. Seattle

>> No.19693816

good, those trust fund twats better watch it though, if they larp too hard, they might actually face punishment for a change.

>> No.19694155

So I used to stack crypto thinking it would move first and I'd shift into gold.

But now I think PMs will move first and after they moon I'll shift into crypto. Thoughts?

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The problem you and other UBI proponents run into is that while you are well meaning, you look at UBI and say 'I would responsibly use that money to survive, and if someone like me can handle it, then it should be a no brainer! I'm nothing special'. And that's where you're wrong.

Most people are stupid. Up until the Victorian era, the trend was that overall intelligence of the populations of Europe and north America was increasing. Consider what centuries of executing people for crimes (even petty crimes) does in removing low control, violent individuals from the pool. Consider that being too lazy to gather fuel meant your family froze, and that fucking your wife constantly when you were too poor to eat meant that your children (and probably the wife) would starve. There is a clear disparity between the breeding outcomes of the upper and lower class that's visible even in Victorian fiction. The more capable, on the average, had more kids survive to breeding age.

This changed with the industrial revolution, which made energy cheap and distributed the capability and economic output of a few bright persons down to the peons. People who would have frozen now had coal or gas heating cheaply. Improvements in agricultural practice allowed not only trade surpluses of food, but for more than could reasonably be consumed by the hungry. Suddenly, many of the constraints against the survival of the stupid and the impatient were lifted, and a new subclass of people that nature would have killed was brought into existence. And these are white Europeans we're talking about.

They are the reason I don't have much faith in /pol/ tier ethnostate dreams. They are the (primary) reason UBI cannot work. They are fundamentally takers in any society, and I can't disagree with calling them goyim, since they act like cattle; content to graze, fuck, and be slaughtered. I'm honestly glad that our fake fiat system is going to bleed them dry. They deserve it.

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What crypto do believe to be an undervalued asset that you will shift into? Why do you believe that your preferred crypto will later grow in value, allowing you to divest and trade up to something else later?

>> No.19694458

where'd you get the Jew Gold (silver edition)?

>> No.19694562

Basically purist cryptos (PoW based, fair distribution) are not a bad store of value, and the market cap is tiny compared to even gold. I think BTC has at least 1 more good run in it.

Banking on mostly BTC/XMR/DCR since they are the most purist SoV cryptocurrencies. I don't touch anything that is pre-mined or is not minable.

>> No.19694583

>went into a gold/siver shop yesterday
>sold my two 10oz silver bars
>"SDBullion? Never heard of them."
>type writer on the desk
>got offered $176 for each
>took it because silver is such a meme metal compared to gold

How badly did I get burned selling? They had no tarnish and were still in vacuum sealed bags.

>> No.19694596

Yeah it's becoming easier to believe that they are right and the goyim aren't capable of more than servitude. Hopefully there's room for us on the citadel.

>> No.19694614

Literally nobody buying generic bullion gives a shit about surface blemishes or even light corrosion. You're never getting more than spot for any silver, with the exception of selling ASEs in the US, and even then you may get a dollar over spot. You sold 20oz silver for $17.60 an ounce. You didn't get burned at all. You got the listed spot price at the time of sale, which you would've gotten with SD bars, Sunshine bars, generic rounds, Britannias, Philharmonics, or Krugs.

>> No.19694631

You got spot price, that's what bars sell for.

>> No.19694784

>transfat and what not
>he thinks millions of years worth of evolution cant solve the problem of attaining energy from every possible source when in caloric deficit

oh boy - you really should reconsider your source of information, Anon, you can loose weight and cholesterol level even on junk food - its not about what you eat, its about how much

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these bars are pretty nice looking, anyone know if their from the US mint or privately done?

>> No.19695032

>There is a clear disparity between the breeding outcomes of the upper and lower class that's visible even in Victorian fiction.

Pretty much literally what HG Wells' The Time Machine was about.

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The sheer volume of pre-33 gold still available today should tell you what level of compliance that had. The only people that EO hit were 2 gold whales that didn't offshore their holdings. And remember, this was back when people still kinda trusted their government. We're 90 years removed from that, in a nation where people are daring the feds to come take their guns.

Who the fuck are you going to get to lead the SWAT stack over some bullion? Are you going to do it? You can't get most of these overpaid mall cops to lead on a drug bust, let alone serving a warrant on firearms possession. By the time you mustered the political and enforcement will to go this balls deep, most people would have 'lost their gold', sent it off shore, buried it in a field, or prepared to actively shoot your goons.

>> No.19695149

I swear that if this ever happens, i am smelting everything I have, casting it into shot, and dumping it in back in a creek. good luck panning that back feds!

>> No.19695190

if they offer me 10%... nah i'm joking but i would assume a lot of people would gladly murder you for a % of your wealth.
last time they gave you spot value for it atleast

>> No.19695218

That may be true in the US, but in Europe they are very popular

>> No.19695220

>The sheer volume of pre-33 gold still available today should tell you what level of compliance that had.
the law exempted $100 face value in coins per person and any coins in a collection. So it had no real effect on pre-33 coins.

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>taking spot fiat by force

>> No.19695233

Ah copper, the XRP of PMs

>> No.19695250

>last time they gave you spot value for it atleast
not at all. They gave the price that they had set as the value. "Spot" didn't exist at the time, the government set the price.

>> No.19695256

W2ç the little 3 ozt poured bar

>> No.19695261

If the government in 1933 didn't feel confident of taking everyone's coins, they won't be able to do so now either.

>> No.19695275

Before the end of the Gold Standard, the price of the dollar was set in gold, not the other way around. The breaking of the link between PMs and the dollar for private citizens was by definition the first time the dollar had a price somehow "separate" from that of gold, since previous to that, the DEFINITION of a dollar (not the other way around) was a certain weight of gold or silver.

>> No.19695292

If you hold a silver dollar, this concept is easy to grasp. A silver dollar MEANS one ounce of silver. This isn't a setting of the price of silver (actually, a silver dollar of course has a market value of just over $20 in FRN but putting that aside for the moment), it is a defining of what a dollar (or in this case, a silver dollar) is.

A silver dollar can rise and fall like crazy in terms of fiat FRN, GBP or other notes, but it's always "a silver dollar" because what it is, one ounce of fine silver, is the definition of a (silver) dollar.

>> No.19695315

I was told this is a bad deal.

Money Metal Exchange has 5 fv mercs for around 79. I got one of those for meme value and it seemed to be one of the few places not raping me

>> No.19695333

5FV merc dimes for 79? How bad do they look? I think JMB was 76 and they looked terrible

>> No.19695423

don't be dense. If the dollar is fixed to gold both values are set by the government.

it's not one or the other, and if you feel the need to explain this you're not nearly smart enough to be discussing the subject.

>> No.19695510

You could have sold those bars for $200+ shipping in less than 5 minutes on r/pmsforsale to a reputable buyer or used a middleman. If you needed fast cash and didnt want the hassle you did fine I guess.

>> No.19695521

Most were worn and got a few downright filthy ones. Came in a cute little baggie. You can tell they're mercs.

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Just so you know, a large % of pre 1933's in market today are recent imports from Europe. That's why pre 1933's got really cheap since 2-3 years ago

Source: too lazy and a lot of people that generally know better than I do told me so

>> No.19695637

Based panman. Linkie dinkie here but also in Gold mining stocks. Your life sounds pretty sweet! Also you have based knowledge! How long will the bullrun last and what’s the price of gold at the peak? Will miners perform well relative to gold price appreciation?

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I think miners are going to do well, I am biased though. I have no idea how long the bull run will last, I dont have the time right now to dig through all the market info and think it through, not to mention my internet connection out here is basic at best. I ve been thinking that gold will likely go to $3k an ounce if things stay as chaotic as they are, but things keep swinging so I could be wildly off. I would be thrilled if gold went to $3k and silver went to something like $50 an ounce, that would do me a world of good. also just fyi, if I drop off the map its because i am working.

>> No.19695794

The RATIO of dollars to metal is set by the government but the value of metals and dollars in exchange for real goods and services will be set by the free market.

A dollar is just a unit of measurement for the economy, like kilograms or metres.

>> No.19696005

metals will moon big time, the only real question is how much are they really mooning and how much of it is inflation

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>> No.19696066

I am expecting PMs to go bonkers, but even heavy industrial metals will probably go up too, but i cant place a time on it with everything being so chaotic.

>> No.19696086

Seattle has their own warlord now.

>> No.19696129

no fucking way Seattle of all places gets a War Lord before police intervention. what the hell are those collage twats doing??

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I work down the street from the CHAZ. I went down there. It's obviously not exactly what Fox News is making it out to be, but it did concern me deeply that Anarchists with rifles are allowed to completely control a small area of a major metropolitan area without ANY contest whatsoever. I think it's a sign of things to come, I know I'm gonna be buying a lot more Gold and Silver. I just have a bad feeling about the next few years.

>> No.19696218

Wouldn’t the best scenario be that gold adjusted to the correct inflation rate against the dollar (26k per Oz on usdebtclock) then the dollar went to being backed by gold again so you could realise your money safe in the knowledge it was backed? I’m hoping for a solid 5 years of growth from miners, this debt situation is unprecedented even by 70 - 80 bullrun standards, so maybe a 10+ year run could happen. Think you’ll be selling ass nuggets for wayyyyy more than 3k an Oz!

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I ve mentioned it in /k/ threads before, but the native bands across Canada are building their forces for a future conflict, they have fanatics ready to spill blood if given the order, I could see them carving their own hardened enclaves from Canada if given the chance.

Conflict is coming to North America, in one form or another and everyone with brains knows it.

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I can only hope gold goes to some crazy mind bendingly high number like 26k an ounce. If it went that high, two of my mineral claims would be worth 10s of millions. I could have a bucket of nuggets sitting outside my door like the old timers of the Klondike. But I will remain cautiously optimistic in the mean time. I ve seen gold and silver go up and down over and over again. Also, keep in mind, I ll have to deal with fuck loads of claim jumpers if gold / silver go to those numbers.

>> No.19696332

Silver outperforms gold in this kind of climate

>> No.19696334

I watched all 3 JRE x Peter Schiff podcast episodes and I've gotta say he's one of the most sheltered/retarded human beings I've ever listened to in my whole life. Some of his ideas are really sound and logical and some of his ideas ignore basic facts that are a quarter of an inch down the road if he used any critical thinking skills. Basic shit about healthcare or minimum wage/entry level jobs.

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Yep, his name is Raz Simone

>> No.19696405

European Metal Holdings
Baconara Minerals

These are two mining juniors with rights to significant deposits. Look where emh is on a map.

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4 little packages have arrived

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open them fren :DD

>> No.19696808

If anyone has questions about specific mining companies leave a reply here and I ll get to it tomorrow some time. I am heading north to McDame Creek country, when I reach Dease Lake I ll answer.

>> No.19696817

fuck i am tired, that should read in two days I am heading to McDame Creek.

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It's done. Silver is an industrial metal. You're in a 100+ year bear market of demonetization of silver.

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Open box fren

>> No.19697201

Why are the so fucking cheap?

>> No.19697371

Who would pay $200 plus shipping when you can go on JM and pay $203 with no shipping

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I'll leave it at that for now. Buying more 5 RM though by writing boomers heartbreaking sob stories to extort them for cheap. I'm flipping stuff on eBay, hence the coloured coin abominations.

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>> No.19697584

Is that your bird?

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Another package just arrived.

>> No.19697687

Your richfield doll makes me laugh every time

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Open if before I get skiddly diddley

>> No.19697828

don't listen to the closet fags, keep postin, your pics are comfy

>> No.19697839

How many LINK do you have?

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don let them bully u

>> No.19697974

Should I buy 1/20 oz gold or 5 oz of silver?

>> No.19697997

get the silver
if you cant afford a 1oz of gold I would suggest staying with silver

if your a retard then get 1/2 oz's and if your a mongolian halfwit get 1/4 oz's

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>> No.19698039

The premium is the same on both though.

>> No.19698071

buy your smelly 1/20oz of gold then

>> No.19698076

Why does it have to be smelly?

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Glad it brings you just as much joy friendo.

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Based I'll call off the snipers

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Would it have been enough Nazi silver to bribe them?

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Straight past the Auschwitz gate

>> No.19698228

At what point should I sell my silver to buy gold?

>> No.19698240

When the ratio falls. Right now it's ~1Au:100Ag

>> No.19698266

What's the natural ratio? 1:10? 1:20?

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>> No.19698308

Google says 1Au:17.5Ag in the earth's crust but that the monetary ratio is 1Au:47Ag on average for the 20th century.

>> No.19698823

People that dont want to do business with a business. I think you'd be surprised.

>> No.19698956

I have a 1/10 oz of gold. it's as big as my fingernail. Can't imagine how small a 1.20 oz coin is.

>> No.19699107

Arent they just about the same size as a dime?

>> No.19699497

My personal blog:

I've used APMEX, Monumentmetals, and SilverGoldBull

>Fastest Shipping, Competitively Priced, but worst Inventory - Monument Metals

>Slowest Shipping, Lowest Prices, Best Inventory - SilverGoldBull

>Moderate Shipping, Moderate Price, Moderate Inventory - APMEX

>JMBullion - Can't even get spot prices or sales tax for my state correct on their website so I refuse to use them

Some websites charge me tax while others don't. I won't use them if they charge tax. So I usually try the same order on multiple sites before placing it.

I also exclusively pay by echeck/personal check so that adds some waiting time since it takes five business days to clear for most sites.

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one dime = 1/10th USD
one dime = same size as 1/10th Oz of gold
1/10th oz gold = 1/10th USD ?

>> No.19699765

A historic gold dollar was much lighter than an ounce though.


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>> No.19700236

Whats a large gold coin i can molest all day without it loosing its value

>> No.19700268

Valcambi/Scotiabank 1/2ozt gold round

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Requesting rare peter schiff memes. Also looking for the one where he's in golden armor.

>> No.19700525

underrated kek

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where do you buy mining stocks? Fidelity or something? or did you get an account with Schiff

>> No.19700584

>This is why Warren Buffett is staying out of the stock market and hoarding silver
Source? Thought he was all in cash

>> No.19700618

From the anon in that other thread

>"Thirty years ago, I bought silver because I anticipated its demonetization by the U. S. government." -- Warren Buffet


>> No.19700644

American Gold Eagle or a Krug. Both are in 22k Gold, so they're more durable than most other bullion coins.

>> No.19700680

>red beans and rice
Based and LA(the real LA)pilled.

>> No.19700700

Not a bad idea to mislead the feds sometimes

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>American flavored imitation pasteurized process cheese food
This is so fucking embarrassing

>> No.19700720

>Pork and Beans

>> No.19700737

>rick and morty
go back

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I just got my first bouillons in today.
should I buy more and can you sell these anywhere?
I want to keep these as a way to keep something that keeps value.

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If you cook that stuff it burns instead of melting.

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LCS had mercs for $1.40, got a dollar face but might just have to buy up all his dimes at that price

>> No.19700935

the 20th century was peaceful compared to the rest of the 21st that we're gonna live through. Especially in the US. silver will be used for small goods purchases once again like buying clothes, food, and other trinkets

>> No.19700944

The Communist Republic of New York

>> No.19700961

>t.seething jews

>> No.19701227

What is a good price to buy the non swastika coins and the 2 and 5 reichsmark with the swastika on it?

>> No.19701620

I think what people don't take into account as well is how unwilling law enforcement/the military are to break into their own civilians homes and steal their shit in front of them. Most will just outright refuse to do so.

>> No.19701653

Guys please help a Europoor silverlet. My country has 20% tax on silver. Where can I buy it cheapo? Our local goldberg sells Austrian philharmonic for 52.5/g, can I get it more cheapo elsewhere?

Is it also possible to buy a few natsoc geldt/silver coins just for the keks?

>> No.19701676

>native bands across Canada are building their forces for a future conflict

Will inevitably be supported by the Chinese, no less

>> No.19701708

yea I am 100% sure they have outside help for a lot of their illegal shit. They have too many guns to be just bringing across the border through normal smuggling.

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