/biz/ - Business & Finance

[Anonymous No.19560026]

Tell me again how covid wasnt a political tool of the left and that the economy wont open for 18 months and the world will never be the same

[Anonymous No.19560037]

>>19560026
In the span of three months the msm has pushed the following ideas:
1 - Trump is a racist for suggesting that borders should exist
2 - Trump is liable all covid deaths for not closing the borders fast enough
3 - The state/police are great for enforcing stay-at-home orders and social distancing
4 - The state/police are racist and we need to assembly 100k in the streets to fight that

[Anonymous No.19560074]

I was honestly sickened by how fast the media pivoted on COVID and social distancing for the riots. Like, it's more egregious lying than usual for them.

[Anonymous No.19560124]

>>19560074
Scary unbelievable shit.
I registered as Republican today, doing my part in a blue state to turn it red by votes.

[Anonymous No.19560145]

>>19560074
>>19560037
Anyone who listens to MSM should be shot in minecraft

[Anonymous No.19560161]

>>19560026
>>19560037
>>19560074
>>19560124

[Anonymous No.19560190]

>>19560161
You will never be a woman

[Anonymous No.19560214]

>>19560074
it's almost like they realized covid was a nothingburger that everyone would forget by november so they needed to manufacture a second wave.

[Anonymous No.19560234]

>>19560124
>registered
ballsy, stay safe out there dude
up in Canada it's leftist in the streets, rightist in the sheets till things get better

[Anonymous No.19560255]

>>19560026
>>19560037
>>19560124
why doesn't someone make a website that uses blockchain to take snapshots of headlines, articles, interview clips, tweets, academic claims and basically any kind of official statement by MSM or retarded faggots that spew bullshit and it basically acts as an archive that will never be removed/changed?

so i can open this site and click on different categories say msm, then click on cnn, and look at different topics and claims/headlines they said about topics in certain dates.

[Anonymous No.19560263]

Is the system breaking? All the media narratives look like the equivalent of frustrated button smashing

[Anonymous No.19560264]

>>19560234
shut the actual fuck up, kevin.

[Anonymous No.19560269]

>>19560214
Everybody that's smart enough to figure it out is being payed to work from home, so obviously they're not gonng speak out and demand that they be allowed to go back to work. Kek

[Anonymous No.19560278]

>>19560214
yes it dumped faster than they thought and they didn't want to get caught holding the bag so had to pivot

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/the-coronavirus-is-disappearing-in-italy-according-to-italian-doctors/ar-BB14Szjk
Alberto Zangrillo, who heads Milan's San Raffaele Hospital, told Italian TV on Sunday that "in reality, the virus clinically no longer exists in Italy," Reuters reported.

"The swabs that were performed over the last 10 days showed a viral load in quantitative terms that was absolutely infinitesimal compared to the ones carried out a month or two months ago," Zangrillo said.

[Anonymous No.19560311]

>>19560255
you can also have a section where users can connect certain headlines which can be viewed by others and maybe even incentive it some how. the point is to have a place where you can check on what has been said in the past about a topic and expose these fucking retarded niggers with their bullshit

[Anonymous No.19560313]

>>19560264
this was a really good post dude

[Anonymous No.19560345]

fuck im a retard, by connect certain headlines i mean make it possible to create something like pic related >>19560311 and anons can comment on it or upboat it or give you tokens for making the connection since why else would you sift through headlines to catch these fuckers lying unless you are paid to do it or just do it for teh lulz

[Anonymous No.19560417]

>>19560345
best way I could envision it as UX is
>go to site
>headline has a set of "similar" category dropdowns positioned near it
>similar by this author+site / similar by this author / similar by this site
>ordered by most well populated
honestly wouldn't be the world's hardest thing to evaluate

[Anonymous No.19560444]

>>19560026
the businesses that failed because of a 2.5 month slowdown in revenue weren’t fit to survive anyway. resilience is king.

[Anonymous No.19560459]

>>19560417
this is more of what i was trying to say but my brain doesnt work all the time

and you can motivate people to vote on certain connections that they make like connecting a string of headlines or comparing say fox and cnn differences on the same story etc

[Anonymous No.19560596]

>>19560026
I can't really vote for Trump because I live in Puerto Rico but I hope he wins and that as many republicans as possible win more seats in the senate because if shit keeps going like this Democrats will end up destroying America. And it's not like I give much a shit about you guys but Trump keeps the market healthy and as a trader that's my main source of income.

[Anonymous No.19560618]

>>19560459
lel, I webdev to feed the habit so it comes easy to me
having like a p2p clustered network that just maintains the public sense of "oh hey, look at this" and maybe like a comment section for every article pair so people can remark on the astounding incidence of coincidence

[Anonymous No.19560652]

>>19560026
I can't really vote for Trump because I live in Puerto Rico but I hope he wins and that republicans take as many seats as possible in the senate because if shit keeps going like this Democrats will end up destroying America. And it's not like I give much a shit about you guys but Trump keeps the market healthy and as a trader that's my main source of income.

[Anonymous No.19560690]

Low iq take:
>DURR THE GOVERNMENT LIE VIRUS NO REAL XD
galaxy brain:
>they’re actively trying to kill black people and leftists while at the same time setting them up to take the blame for the second wave

[Anonymous No.19560713]

>>19560214
Honestly, I'd rather deal with joggers rioting than having every business and restaurant be closed.

[Anonymous No.19560752]

>>19560161
>Everyone who criticizes the insanity by the msm is a migatard
Lefties, ladies and gentlemen. Ironic how the soijack in pic has a striking resemblence to its poster

[Anonymous No.19560772]

>>19560652
Lel
The republicans are in power right now
The market is healthy because of obama’s Interventions during his presidency
trump hasn’t done fuck shit
Get fucked

[Anonymous No.19560831]

>>19560752
I dont have a dog in this fight but
If you sincerely believe
>fox news is more accurate than cnn
>trump reads words and is smart
>trump knows things and collects information
>trump actually cares about the bible and the american flag and the 2nd ammendment
>everything is a conspiracy theory
>covid was made up

Then you are legitimately a retarded person.
/pol/ isnt real. Its entertainment and a circle of positive reinforcement for people who think conspiratorial thinking makes you intelliegent instead of a dumb ass.

[Anonymous No.19560835]

>>19560444
Truth was established by being bestowd the appropriate sequence of digits. I will wrgue however that it was completely manufactured and a great way to bail out shitty big companies like Boeaing without the populace chimping out. Small businesses paid the price and big companies that had fucked financials were saved because they were either too big to fail or are vital to the economy and/or infrastructure

[Anonymous No.19560838]

not all capes were herros
#stayathome

[Anonymous No.19560868]

>>19560831
I never said anything about what you posted retard. It's mostly lefties and faggots like you who immediately jump the gun on people who point out the blatant hypocrisy of the left and start calling names

[Anonymous No.19560871]

>trump actually cares about the bible and the american flag and the 2nd ammendment

Hate to say it but this is the most embarssing aspect of trump defenders. They convinced themselves that trump loves america and its people.

[Anonymous No.19560873]

>>19560618
i dont understand what that means because am brainlet but if you can do it and make money off it would be cool. make some hashtags spread it now while all this bullshit is going on it could take off. youd need a good name for it tho something like msmx or msml (x for exposed or l for lies) something normie brains can remember. or maybe something like factter (fact checker but sounds like twitter) anyways good luck if you decide to do this

[Anonymous No.19560887]

>>19560868
I was elaborating on what you said dude, dont be so defensive.

[Anonymous No.19560910]

>noooo you cannot protest agains the racist cops

[Anonymous No.19560924]

Endless voices shattering thoughts that cloud my head sleepless nights of agony with no resolute twitching in a pool of sweat searching for the words to say babble spills out of my mouth starring into space I didn't hear what you said I wish i could explain whats wrong with me Why can't i think straight
Im lost

[Anonymous No.19560927]

SECOND WAVE

JUST WAIT

TWO MORE WEEKS

ITS COMING

SHUT EVERYTHING DOWN


AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

[Anonymous No.19560947]

>>19560887
you were putting words in his mouth.

[Anonymous No.19560955]

>>19560910
You can and should be allowed to, think the point is that the COVID-19 coverage/shaming prior to Floyd's death was completely fucking insincere.

Either you give a shit about people going outside/to restaurants/gyms etc., or you're against thousands in crowds protesting. You can't have it both ways.

[Anonymous No.19560971]

>>19560887
You were EXTRAPOLATING what I posted and I'm not defensive. I just got tired of leftyfaggots who jump on people who point out things that happen to support their ideas, ideology whatever. Lefties and other progressive useful idiots ignore that a social problem is being used as a political tool because said social issue happens to be something you dislike Then you have retards like >>19560910 who think that racist cops are the problem and not police
brutality, if this is a problem

[Anonymous No.19560987]

>>19560652
This is a pretty based point of view. I'm in a solid dem state so my vote won't matter either way, but Trump winning would be the most chaotic result in terms of social unrest and also seemingly the best result for the market.

[Anonymous No.19560993]

>>19560026
it was political bs from beginning anybody but dumb fucks could see that miles away

[Anonymous No.19561023]

>>19560955
In all fairness, the fact that doctors had no clue what it was going to do to us is a major major deal.
They still dont.
Im 32 in good shape on a healthy diet and corona has Fucked me up for 2 months straight.
Everyone who gets the basic symptoms of it Might get some kind of permanent damage.

The point is, if this exact situation of a very contagious virus that spreads eaisly without warning happens again we dont really have much of a choice but to repeat some form of isolation.

We just have to have some leadership next time and learn to find a good balance.

[Anonymous No.19561052]

>>19560161
>>19560752
Trump/Hillary are both part of the same problem. Trump was initially supported on /pol/ due to his portrayal as a more nationalist candidate, at a time when the refugee crisis was starting to establish itself, and he didn't seem to be like just another neocon. Hillary was (correctly) portrayed as a two-faced shill for the banks, with a shady past.

Trump has shown that he's not about draining the swamp, and he's not been able to deliver on many of his promises. He's also overly supportive of Israel.

2016 should've shown /pol/ that the 2 party division is a waste of time (and it probably has for a lot of them), but I think why people still support him is because he represents an idea that they agree with, even if they can see he doesn't really represent it. Many of them are also just zoomers who got caught up "in a team" without even really understanding what they were supporting. That's why you see all of those retarded videos on youtube of "how I escaped the alt-right". Sheep who got stuck in the wrong flock.

[Anonymous No.19561067]

>>19560971
Im not even a liberal dude.
People on the right and left are mostly the same amount of retarded. The right has way more common extremists though (those who watch fox religiously and support retard trump)

And youre right Police brutality is the bigger problem then plain racist cops, but.. blacks get outwardly assasinated more often.

[Anonymous No.19561069]

>>19560971
>police is just as brutal against whites

[Anonymous No.19561095]

>>19561052
>Trump has shown that he's not about draining the swamp, and he's not been able to deliver on many of his promises. He's also overly supportive of Israel.
duh. The DNC can summon mediocre insider candidates all day though.

[Anonymous No.19561104]

>>19561023
>the fact that doctors had no clue what it was going to do to us is a major major deal.
>They still dont.

false. plenty of stats out there. death rate around 0.04% similar to flu. only ones affected and dying are those with preexisting conditions

>Im 32 in good shape on a healthy diet and corona has Fucked me up for 2 months straight.

appeal to anecdote

>Everyone who gets the basic symptoms of it Might get some >kind of permanent damage.

wrong

[Anonymous No.19561112]

>>19561052
Anyone who didnt see as clear as day that Trump had No idea what the fuck he was talking about anytime he got on stage and freestyled is an insecure principleless faggot who fell for a personality cult.

I find it insane that anyone can deny that.

[Anonymous No.19561122]

Remember when health professionals were attacking white, armed protestors for doing peaceful protests and saying they needed to follow lockdown procedures. I feel like I'm taking crazy pills watching all this hypocrisy.

[Anonymous No.19561128]

>>19561069
The point is the hypocrisy that's becoming evident. If you identify as a left leaning person, who cares about issues to do with the fairness, you have to see the stupidity in ruining small businesses and putting millions out of work - worsening wealth inequality, for a reason that's now being thrown out of window.

[Anonymous No.19561140]

>>19561104
>preexisting conditions
100% incorrect, a fuck ton of people in their 20s 30s and 40s have dropped dead due to stroke, heart attack, kidney failure and all other forms of blood clotting.

The reality is that people think corona is over counting deaths when the opposite is happening.

[Anonymous No.19561150]

It's just OWS cointelpro part 2, this time they rolled out the identity politics astroturf before any organic opposition to brrrrrr & bailouts could develop

[Anonymous No.19561161]

>>19561128
BRO THEY'RE JUST THINGS HAHA LIKE JUST BUY A NEW BUSINESS HAHA THE LOOTING IS GONNA SOLVE RAYCISM

[Anonymous No.19561185]

>>19561128
>nooooo not the profits of the greedy corporations, you simply cannot stop a global pandemic at the expense of the mega rich

[Anonymous No.19561195]

>>19561069
>There are only blacks and whites

[Anonymous No.19561262]

>>19561067
>blacks get outwardly assasinated more often.
You, as an american, should know better why this happens.
Also, I'm not even conservative and it is true that the right has more common extremists because there are more common "values" and virtues they abide to. The left has more dispersed extremists because they have more ideological interpretations of how the world whoudl be than there are lefties. Both sides have their shit people but don't try to vindicate the left because the supposedly stand up to social issues. The vandalism they do which is supported by their political leaders is inexcusable and shoudl be criminal

[Anonymous No.19561323]

>>19561128
>>19561262
I can see you're not a fuck wit like 99% of political posters.

You must understand that
1. No one gives a fuck about peaceful protest.
2. for 40 years people have asked for police to have systematic changes and have gotten dick.
3. Public assassination is worse than a simple death.
Blacks get murdered more when theyre already in handcuffs, and in more brutal ways, mostly due to cops not giving a fuck about blacks.

Violent protests are absolutely inevitable in this situation

[Anonymous No.19561345]

>>19561323
>Blacks get murdered more when theyre already in handcuffs, and in more brutal ways, mostly due to cops not giving a fuck about blacks.
imagine actually believing this

[Anonymous No.19561406]

>>19560026
There is a reason doctors get purged during regime changes.

[Anonymous No.19561619]

>>19560124
Still believing in political economy. Not gonna make it.

[Anonymous No.19561621]

>>19561323
>1. No one gives a fuck about peaceful protest
So destroying the livelihood of ohers is going to do something, right? Bull fucking shit. What violent protest achieve are more authoritarian rule to prevent any similar happenings in the future in the name of security and money going to insurance companies who will up their premiums.
>2. for 40 years people have asked for police to have systematic changes and have gotten dick.
If you want an elephant to fly, dont stick some feather on it expecting the elephant to fly. You need to genetically engineer the mammal to grow wings that will generate enough force to lift it in the air. If you also want the poor mammal to fly propose a fucking solution istead of expecting the state, which has a terrible track record of looking after the publics interests, to come up the solution for you since if you want to get involved. If you are not actively involved, shut the fuck up and go on with your life.
>3. Public assassination is worse than a simple death.
I've experienced neither of those so I can't tell which is worse
>Blacks get murdered more when theyre already in handcuffs, and in more brutal ways, mostly due to cops not giving a fuck about blacks.
That's fucking bullshit and you know it.

What should get your noggin joggin is how the groups who were against assembly during the lockdowns dismissed it for something that is very commonplace in the us and also, to keep it /biz/ related, how will the government will fill the gap between the $7tn public spending budget with an estimated 3.4T tax revenue at the time where a quarter of the year's economic activity was abysmal

[Anonymous No.19561794]

>>19561185
There are airlines, who did things like share buybacks when times were good, who are getting bailed out. The Fed is buying high yield debt from in order see investors and shitty companies. There are stable companies who have taken advantage of the payroll protection program: https://jacobinmag.com/2020/05/coronavirus-bailout-covid-ppp-paycheck-protection-program-corporations..

In some countries, people have been able to defer payment on loans (like mortgages) but interest still accrues, meaning they've essentially increased the how much they'll have to pay to their bank, overall.

Tech companies have now gained a stronger foothold, as competition gets killed off (my point on small businesses). And you could get covid-19 while in a small business, but not while waiting in line for some massive supermarket chain or when ordering something from McDonald's.

This whole thing has disproportionately impacted the lower and middle classes, and yet that's not something supposed leftists give a shit about. Those who did originally protest for going back to work and reducing State control were labeled as "right wing conspiracy theorists" and people who "want a haircut". So don't come at me with bullshit concern over "the economy over lives", because the rich got richer out of all this, but you're busy rioting over an issue that's designed to fucking aggravate you.

[Anonymous No.19561796]

>>19560026
Wait, what the fuck?! Are health professionals seriously changing their stance just because some black guy died at a hands of a cop? They don't mind the economy collapsing but when a black guy dies, it's the apocalypse? These people have no conviction. They care more about politics than the integrity of their professions.

[Anonymous No.19561814]

>>19561794
>in order see investors and shitty companies
*in order to save investors

[Anonymous No.19561842]

>>19560026
If only youd have listened

[Anonymous No.19561864]

>>19560026
Like everyone else, doctors and nurses have to show support for the protests...or else they'll suffer repercussions. Even staying silent about BLM is risky.

[Anonymous No.19561889]

>>19560161
Reginald Blumptgz is a fucking luminescent nigger, nice false flag Moishe

[Anonymous No.19561925]

>>19560124
Ah yes the """""conservative""""" neokeynsians of the Robert Mugabe school of economics will most certainly combat the blue hyperinflationists because they're based and hate trannies just like me. Zion Don please take my guns daddy !

[Anonymous No.19561955]

>>19560311
Son, you could show people irrefutable proof that the big doughy lumps of fat hanging off the end of their back is their arse and they'll fight tooth and nail to tell it's their elbow

[Anonymous No.19561964]

>>19560026
>>19560037
>>19560074
How is it possible that so many of you are this fucking stupid? Do you not acknowledge a world outside of your /pol/ and /biz/ shitposting bubble? COVID concerns are still all over the news. Mainstream media’s shit but it’s been very consistent about reporting two major issues. COVID’s real. You don’t recognize this because you spend all day on 4chan and never speak with people outside of your bubble.

You’ve been severely brainwashed on a fundamental level. /pol/‘s conservatism started as irony a la The Colbert Report, but some people drank the kool-aid. You are basing your lives off people who didn’t understand irony.

[Anonymous No.19561966]

>>19560026
The only reason these protests/riots are getting as much interest and participation as they are is entirely due to the COVID closures. If it was business as usual, everyone (especially the lower class) working and not on unemployment, then this would be another minor upset on the streets.
All those in favor of the protests see now as the PERFECT opportunity for as many people as possible to take part in what they envision to be a life changing revolutionary history in the making moment. COVID is real, and these people are willing to risk many more lives in hopes they'll get to say that they were part of the 2020 BLM protests that brought change.

[Anonymous No.19562022]

They wan to any gatherings approximating a trump rally (sports, concerts, festivals,trade shows), now they get their poz and closures. Bugman aren't giving up burning man, Coachella,etc

[Anonymous No.19562076]

>>19562022
>burning man
you should probably learn what burning man is. It’s not a music festival. Social distancing is entirely possible there.

Either way, it’s clear at this point that Trump is going to force an opening this summer. Of course Coachella will stay open - it’s a fucking money trap. That’s business, not politics.

[Anonymous No.19562128]

>>19560026
so you are telling me that they are now "protesting" "structural racism" even tho every white is chucking to this and every brand is doing the same not to mention if you are white and do something remotely racist in the eyes if the mob you get fired?
do they even stop and think about is happening in their surroundings or they actually this low IQ?

[Anonymous No.19562153]

>>19562022
>burning man
they cancelled ticket sales you dingus

[Anonymous No.19562182]

SO MANY GLOWIES IN THIS THREAD FUCK OFF BACK TO POL

[Anonymous No.19562221]

>>19560037
At this point it doesn't even feel real anymore. What I don't understand is how NPCs are eating this up, even for an NPC this should at least make them go "huh" for just a second. The narratives are changing so drastically and quickly that we've reached actual clown world.

[Anonymous No.19562238]

>>19562153
and were they insured unlike south by southwest?
there can't be a sudden launch, it isn't the scope of the olympic? I don't the bans can sustain in the face of tourismbux.

[Anonymous No.19562244]

>>19560026 (OP)

The real answer is that pro-BLM protesters are already being physically attacked for infractions as minor as simply not running away from the police fast enough, and plenty of people on their side want less excuses for the police to incite violence on protesters. If you give them "curfews", they tear gas and rubber bullet them with the excuse of "Oh they were out past 5PM that means it's violence time", if you give them "Nearby suspicious looters", it's "Oh you may fit the description". Giving them "Covid-19" is basically a free pass to batter and bludgeon protesters at any point in the day and prevent literally any form of assembly, peaceful or otherwise, which is a bit odd because the response for the anti-lockdown protesters (who had loaded firearms, not a single demag in sight) was entirely quiet and peaceful. Don't support your local pigs, no matter your political affiliation.

[Anonymous No.19562477]

>>19560263
>is the system breaking
no, we are living in the simulation as Baudrillard describe it
> the age of simulation thus begins with a liquidation of all referentials - worse: by their artificial resurrection in systems of signs, which are a more ductile material than meaning, in that they lend themselves to all systems of equivalence, all binary oppositions and all combinatory algebra. It is no longer a question of imitation, nor of reduplication, nor even of parody. It is rather a question of substituting signs of the real for the real itself; that is, an operation to deter every real process by its operational double, a metastable, programmatic, perfect descriptive machine which provides all the signs of the real and short-circuits all its vicissitudes. Never again will the real have to be produced: this is the vital function of the model in a system of death, or rather of anticipated resurrection which no longer leaves any chance even in the event of death. A hyperreal henceforth sheltered from the imaginary, and from any distinction between the real and the imaginary, leaving room only for the orbital recurrence of models and the simulated generation of difference.

all things in >>19560037 are possible because of the simulation.

[Anonymous No.19563202]

>>19560417
>>19560345
I like this idea, anyone else agrees?