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fyi
https://youtu.be/hA1CLEGvZgM

>> No.19509933
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>>19509882
pretty fucking based
>you can go to conferences and put on your unicorn shirt
kek

>> No.19510029

>more bysantine resistant than eth 2 - 50% for cardano ve 33% for eth2
>orders of magnitude more scalable than eth 2
damn

>> No.19510063

>>19510029
yep. now you know why cardano news is censored on crypto leddits. eth bagholders are terrified

>> No.19510152

>>19509882
AAVE eclipses both of these overpriced boomercoins.

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>>19510152

>> No.19510316

>>19510216
+

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Ngl I own a big chunk of ETH, but these unicorn faggots have got me a little anxious. I dumped some of the underperforming shitcoins (but nothing the ETH) and am now stacking ADA. It’s going to crab under .1 USD for a bit longer, once that breaks it’s rocket time, then coinbase, then Goguen, with more functionality than ETH is even trying to have, while Vitalik fans his own balls.

>> No.19510921

>>19509882

yeah, IOHK is a research center well-staffed with top-tier academics.

they literally have zero competitors

obviously not uneducated and unqualified retards like vitalik or sergay

/thread

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>>19509882
Why does this boyboy sounds so much buthurt kek

>> No.19511058

If you haven’t already opened a short I feel sorry for you.

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>>19511026
>why doesn't chad hoskinson tolerate mETH bagholder and mETH dev mongloid tier fud and misinformation
>why do people push back in life instead of letting people spread disinfo
and why dodn't you refute a single of his points gayboy? because you can't

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>>19511058
mmm post your position and liquidation price and keep the thread updated as you get liquidated

>> No.19512315

ETH is a toy compared to cardano. the leviathan awakens

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>>19512315
>Pretending this hard Cardano does not exist. Everything he listed is what Cardano is working on.

>> No.19514456

>>19514200
Vitalik moron should only post - "like Cardano "
Much less words needed.

>> No.19514620

DYOR cardano is shit desu

>> No.19514680

>>19514620
You know why you are dumb?
Because you don't understand this:
https://cardanoupdates.com/

>> No.19514754

>>19509882
ETH is pure spaghetti code. ETH was without a doubt a great idea; I will not deny that at all. However, most people in crypto don't have the comprehension or knowledge to be able and look at the code-base and identify flaws that could be catastrophic, both in terms of economic, security, and overall functioning in cost signals.

Vitalik is smart. However, he's the most retarded smart person in all of crypto. He's a fucking child who doesn't own up to his inability to produce a creation and has longevity. Him and his cronies wrote shitty-ass code. It can't scale. The only way it can scale is constant upgrades each time they feel things are getting congested. This is where the problem lies. It is impossible for ETH to implement a scaling solution to where it doesn't need upgrades anymore. For ETH to work, it will need constant upgrades of ETH 2.0, 3.0, 4.0, so on and so forth for an indefinite amount of time - just kicking the can down the road. Off-chain scaling won't work either because ETH's security is already shit on a stick. Making something more complicated that is already a piece of shit is 100% pointless. People can never steadily develop something on ETH because with each 'scaling upgrade', those who are creating on ETH will have to pivot each time to ensure their product is compatible to work on ETH. To sum it up, each time ETH decides to upgrade to scale, it just gets worse.

For ETH to work to the level needed, the amount of ETH in ever single wallet needs to be known after each transaction. Since ETH cannot implement SPV, it's impossible for ETH to scale because it does not have the capabilities to know the exact amount of ETH in every single ETH wallet after each transaction at a massive scale.

The only way to permanently fix ETH would be to roll back the chain to the beginning almost. Vitalik is just your average Russian retard who can't produce anything of value

>> No.19514780

>>19509882
It doesn't matter. At what point does it end and we actually pick a crypto to keep developing? It will just keep happening and the ecosystem will continuously reset every time there is a new tech.
The people that actually are developing things get tired of switching. It's hard to learn to develop on a new chain. Ethereum is going nowhere. At some point it's not about tech anymore.

>> No.19515149

https://www.reddit.com/r/cardano/comments/92r3si/vitalik_allegations_against_ouroboros/

look at your basedman get schooled on how to build a blockchain by money skelly

>> No.19515294

Eth 27.08b

Ada 2.25b

Ada is weak.

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>>19515149
right...
https://iohk.io/en/blog/posts/2018/08/09/how-does-casper-compare-to-ouroboros/

>> No.19516826

>>19516151
you think the_buterin goes down so easily? hahahaha

https://old.reddit.com/r/ethereum/comments/95xgno/how_does_casper_compare_to_ouroboros_iohk_blog/

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>>19509882
Let's just stop talking about this now that Harmony is finished. ADA is literally obsolete before it even exists because of them.

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>>19516826
ETH and their approach is such a mess. This is one of the reasons Cardano will succed. They follow a systematic process. Ethereum is all over the place.

>> No.19517079

>>19514780
>Ethereum is going nowhere.
except it is. it is such garbage that it is being dropped for a new crypto with the same name plus 2.0. you don't really know what you're talking about anon.

>> No.19517118

>>19515149
he got ripped to shreds. vitalik uses social media as his arena because he is weak on the material. he relies on an army of mETH head shitposters to do the work for him. he doesn't understand ouroboros and when the scientists working on ouroboros replied to him all vitalik could do is shit his diaper and whine and winge on social media. he avoids talking and debating with the team directly at conferences, but he runs to social media. pretty pathetic desu.

>> No.19517145

>>19510063
>terrified
Name 5 projects being built on cardano

>> No.19517269

>>19517145
New Balance
PwC
Beefchain
Government of Ethiopia
Wyoming

>> No.19517271

>>19509933
>>19510063
>>19510216
>>19512119
>>19512147
>>19517079
>>19517118
Cringeposter detected

>> No.19517312

>>19516986
>as a layman
what a COPOUT

the 'talik spends 10 minutes reading cardano whitepaper and shits all over it in a reddit post he made while wearing his unicorn onesie and nobody can rebut him

sure, cardano has a systematic process, unfortunately its formally verified to SUCK DICK

charles copekinson is just angry vitalik fired him all those years ago, hate to see it

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>>19517145
>last thread you asked for 1
>this thread you ask for 5
>next thread you'll ask for 10
unable to argue the fundamentals though. ETH 2 confirmed substandard 4 years before completion.

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>>19517312
mmm yes anon. that's why it kicks the shit out of eth 2 on all fronts, and that's why current gen ETH becomes a sad little toy the moment that Gougen goes live.

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>>19517312
see >>19517118

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>>19517314
>assumes only 1 person is asking
>deflects
Congrats on this. Pic related is you in this thread

>> No.19517379

>>19517118
literally replied DIRECTLY TO THE MAN IN THE CARDANO SUBREDDIT

us mortals can't even comprehend what the fuck that wizard is saying but if you read between the lines you can see it sort of visualises charles in fetal position crying for his mommy

>>19517314
>basedman says its better so its true
xD

>> No.19517402

>>19517360
>basedman says its better so its true
xD

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>>19517376
not a deflection mongloid, it was answered in this thread.

>> No.19517443

>>19517405
Name something that is being built on ada for ada.

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>>19517379
learn to read moron. vitalik is scared of true engagement which has always been available to him at conferences and the like. instead he uses social media because he is a weak minded eth shill. He does not understand ouroboros and he got ripped to fuck by the scientists who do, and what did he do in response to that... run back to l e d d i t. also you need to learn the filters on this board faggot.

>> No.19517484

>>19517443
>on ada for ada
beefchain
>>19517269

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>>19509882
>DEVELOPERS DEVELOPERS DEVELOPERS
cardano has zero devs.

>> No.19517589

>>19517458
WROTE DIRECTLY TO THE MAN, NO ANSWER

basedfilterbasedman ran crying to his """"""""scientists"""""""" who made a formally verified systematic functionally programmed blog post crying about not being able to find casper papers using bing

vitalik goes to reddit and is obviously wildly confused as to where the rebuttal was; can't even get a straight answer going straight to the source, and you say he's afraid to engage, LOL!

>> No.19517650

>>19517484
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHABAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA I rest my case.

>> No.19517677

>>19517650
ADA taking the world by storm

one wyoming cattle farmer at a time

HAHAHAHAHA

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>>19517589
>wrote directly
show me the email? oh you can't. social media with shit formatting is not the place for a scientific debate. it is a faggoty ass place to shitpost and beg your followers to shitpile. this was already addressed. it was clear from vitalik's post that he is incapable of responding in kind to that blog. he attacked ouroboros, got assraped by the scientists working on it, and then he whined and winged on fuckboy leddit. such a faggot. why does he not engage in a debate at a whiteboard at a conference faggot? answer that question. he is scared and completely out of his league. you know it, he knows it, and you still haven't learned the fucking filters. you reddit faggots are cancer. why are you on this board today faggot? you hear rumors back on leddit that mETH is looking bad on 4chan. you clearly don't even luck here much less post here. learn to read.

>> No.19517806

>>19517650
>>19517677
>multi-billion dollar industry that will have billions of dollars worth of beef being tracked
you asked for one and you're butthurt about it. is this the last refuge of the eth bagholder.
>refute the points charles makes in his video
you can't

>> No.19517878

>>19517118
>ripped to shreds
Are you fucking illiterate? Skelly absolutely dominated the entire thread. Charles straight up fucking retreated.

>> No.19517922

>>19517759
>charles cant understand reddit formatting
the state of cardano

>faggot cancer reddit blabla
imagine having a folder on your computer of reaction faces and strongly identifying as a 4channer

ill roam the plains of the internet knowing i am not an npc who has to live or die by what internet forum he uses like a fucking sperg

fuck off back to wyoming, HAHAHA

>> No.19517930

>>19517269
I actually thought that was a shitpost / joke until I realized you were serious

it's over for ADA before it even begun. ONE is superior in all aspects

>> No.19518030

>>19517878
>Skelly absolutely dominated the entire thread
no anon, charles just realized the idiocy of debating the protocols himself, and let his employee and world class scientist who is developing the protocol do it for him. this is about the protocols after all, not the people involved. skelly never recovered.
https://iohk.io/en/blog/posts/2018/08/09/how-does-casper-compare-to-ouroboros/
>refute the points charles makes in his video
https://youtu.be/hA1CLEGvZgM
you can't
>refute the points charles makes in his video
https://youtu.be/hA1CLEGvZgM
you can't
>refute the points charles makes in his video
https://youtu.be/hA1CLEGvZgM
you can't
>refute the points charles makes in his video
https://youtu.be/hA1CLEGvZgM
you can't

>> No.19518130

>>19518030
>refute the points charles makes in his video
what points lmao he is literally just saying its better without saying why with no one to tell him he's wrong

you ate it up raw like the good goy you are

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>>19518130
>without saying why
he explicitly stated why in the video. it's not that long anon, the first 2-3 minutes is all it takes to understand.
>refute the points charles makes in his video
ahhh, I see. you can't. facts are facts after all

>> No.19518216

>>19509882
Doesn’t matter faggot. Eth has more support in the real word than Cardano has on Reddit. Businesses are already looking at Ethereum, not faggy Cardano. You’re just a bunch of poorfags who couldn’t afford to buy Eth so you’ve loaded up on this shitcoin.

>> No.19518245

Eth 27.08b

Ada 2.25b

Ada is weak.

>> No.19518268

>>19518158
>our consensus is better
tell me why

^we already saw vitalik BTFO him on this one, why believe the rest of his claims? probably because ur a bagholder

>our networking is better
tell me why

>ledger based sharding can't scale as well as whatever we have
tell me why

I also heard "layer 2 sharding" in there which makes my alarm bells go wee woo

>> No.19518382

>>19518268
>>our consensus is better
>tell me why
>^we already saw vitalik get BTFO trying to do this
>our networking is better
refute it faggot
>ledger based sharding can't scale as well as whatever we have
refute it faggot
>I also heard "layer 2 sharding" in there which makes my alarm bells go wee woo
why faggot, because your mETH 2.0 bags are dedicated to sharting layer 1?

>> No.19518409

>>19518382
i can't refute just like you can't explain it

you see the problem bucko? maybe stick to cattlefarming

>> No.19518637

>>19518030
"His" employees also got dominated. Even the guy they brought in specifically to write a massive essay couldn't lay a hand on the bone master. The best bit is that's they're entire job and between all of them they couldn't score any points off skelly, who was probably just shitposting on the toilet. Intellect mogging on a brutal scale.

>> No.19518719

>>19518409
>more byzantine resistant
eth 2 is 1/3 to 1/4 byzantine resistant while cardano is 50% resistant, that's a fact.
>explicit blockchain based governance which ethereum hasn't touched at all
that's a fact.
>better idea of how to update the system
have you seen how quickly and smoothly cardano devs have been pushing updates live... they are on a weekly and sometimes bi-weekly release cycle. every time eth gets updated the world holds it breath that they don't break shit again... and accidents have happened and have been caught just before going live by outside parties. yeah, i'd say cardano devs have a better idea of how to do that, especially since they invested so much research and effort with formal methods to design that requirement into the system.
>significantly better network design than anything they've proposed in 2.0
you disagree?
>our consensus protocol is better
ouroboros has survied the peer review process and has been improved on iteratively -- all in public view. for an explanation see this:
https://iohk.io/en/blog/posts/2018/08/09/how-does-casper-compare-to-ouroboros/
actually read it, unless your ETH bags require you to hide your head in the sand.
>with hydra the theoretical throughput is orders of magnitude better than anything they can achieve with ledger based sharding, and no need to introduce enormous complexity to achieve ledger based sharding because it can be done in a single shard environment with a layer two solution and still get 1000 tps in a single shard environment.
sounds well explained, what do you disagree with?

>> No.19518744

>>19518637
that's an interesting way to write: skelly got skullfucked.

>> No.19518746

>>19518637
>Intellect mogging on a brutal scale
shakespeare couldn't have put it more succinctly

>> No.19518786

>>19518744
Cope harder faggot. Hope you enjoyed funding Charlie's round the world adventure hahahaha

>> No.19518823

>>19518786
you meth bagholders are the ones coping in this thread.

>> No.19518843

>>19518719
you think compiling copy pasta is "explaining"?

>> No.19518847

>>19518786
chew on that
>more byzantine resistant
eth 2 is 1/3 to 1/4 byzantine resistant while cardano is 50% resistant, that's a fact.
>explicit blockchain based governance which ethereum hasn't touched at all
that's a fact.
>better idea of how to update the system
have you seen how quickly and smoothly cardano devs have been pushing updates live... they are on a weekly and sometimes bi-weekly release cycle. every time eth gets updated the world holds it breath that they don't break shit again... and accidents have happened and have been caught just before going live by outside parties. yeah, i'd say cardano devs have a better idea of how to do that, especially since they invested so much research and effort with formal methods to design that requirement into the system.

>> No.19518852

>>19518719
All True.

All the Core protocols of Cardano are better then what ethereum 2.0 will be once finished in every category.

Once Finished. Phase 0 is delayed. Not Phase 1 or Phase 2 is going to be delivered. No, we are waiting for phase 0.

Cardano miles ahead and the world will see.

>> No.19518868

>>19518843
where's the pasta faggot?
>more byzantine resistant
eth 2 is 1/3 to 1/4 byzantine resistant while cardano is 50% resistant, that's a fact.
>explicit blockchain based governance which ethereum hasn't touched at all
that's a fact.
>better idea of how to update the system
have you seen how quickly and smoothly cardano devs have been pushing updates live... they are on a weekly and sometimes bi-weekly release cycle. every time eth gets updated the world holds it breath that they don't break shit again... and accidents have happened and have been caught just before going live by outside parties. yeah, i'd say cardano devs have a better idea of how to do that, especially since they invested so much research and effort with formal methods to design that requirement into the system.

>> No.19518887

>>19518847
>every time eth gets updated the world holds it breath that they don't break shit again...
Underrated point.

>> No.19518923

>>19518847
>eth 2 is 1/3 to 1/4 byzantine resistant while cardano is 50% resistant, that's a fact.
Ask me how I know you're a nomaths nontech loser

>> No.19518965

>>19509882
cardano is a scam

>> No.19518987

>>19518868
>eth 2 is 1/3 to 1/4 byzantine resistant while cardano is 50% resistant, that's a fact.
just saying it because someone else said it is meaningless when neither you or I understand the tradeoffs

>explicit blockchain based governance which ethereum hasn't touched at all
EOS has on-chain governance too but it seems like it's hot garbage

who is to say it works? afaik it's still being heavily researched and nobody really seems to know where to go, so ADA somehow "solving this" seems UNLIKELY :-)

having something is not good by default, what are the downsides?

>better idea of how to update the system
>very time eth gets updated the world holds it breath that they don't break shit again
what?

>> No.19519235

>>19518965
(coin) is a scam